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Bran maybe started. Yeah, we were a teamed that played five games the preseason, didn't even forgett a Hall of Fame owner, general manager. I mean a lot of things we've been You went to court cases, you learned legal terms, you learned what's right, what's wrong. I mean, there's so many things that we've kind of thought. Protest, Yeah, protests, you've learned about, Yeah, standing, kneeling, sitting, you know, a

lot a lot going on in the injuries. Injuries, Oh, injuries, that's yeah, Yeah, and that's it's it's it's taking its toll. It's been a roller coaster so yes, again, now you have another season, and this is kind of what you just said, because I forgot about that you had five preseason games. I know you didn't play the Houston one, but that was still an exhausting day for everyone, and

it was difficult for everybody, a hard week because state. Yeah, and then you know, the Cowboys turn around as an organization, and Mickey and I were doing a game, you know, at the AT and T Stadium there the practice game and raising money and all that, and yeah, it was just it was a really unusual start to the year. There were so many unknowns, and some of the things that we thought we're gonna be okay really weren't okay. And some of the things that, wow, Jylen Smiths really

playing sixteen games, huh okay. So I mean it was that kind of It's it's been that kind of season, and I think that there's a lot of people that are willing to say, let's put this behind us and try and focus in on next year. So what I was gonna say, too, is another year now that the teams that participate in the Hall of Fame Game in the preseason do not make the playoffs. Yeah, is that a thing. That's a thing. Now, there's never been one to make this Super Bowl. There might have been a

few that have made the playoffs here and there. Now people might be like, well, the Packers made it a few years ago. They didn't end up playing the game that canceled. Yeah, so um. More importantly, the NFC East defending champions have not repeated since two thousand and four. Wow, Philadelphia, right, that's crazy, that's parody for you. Last year to Philadelphia, a lot of questions at quarterback, was he the right guy? Now he's your MVP candidate and likely with him being

out the Philadelphias. To me, they're done. I just watching them play, they're done. Every year. It makes you admire what the Patriots do every single year. Sure, it's it's mind boggling what they've been able to do for fifteen years when you think about how difficult it is to put together back to back playoff seasons, just two in a row, you know, and the Cowboys are trying to get back to back winning seasons for the first time in eight years and they still won't go to the postseason.

It's it's a hard leak. It's set up to allow teams to bounce back every year, and the competition rises and falls, and it's really hard to maintain that level of success. Yeah. I was sitting next to Mickey on Sunday and that was right after the Jags game, or it was right before the Jags game was going to start, but they'd already clinched, and then the Rams had just won. And Mickey goes, when was the last time that both the Jags and the Rams won division titles? And we

looked it up. It was nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, wow, greatest show on turf. Yeah, you know, it's funny about that too. Think about this, what if the Chargers get into the playoffs, So you had two teams, when's the last time in LA? You think about LA? They have to have two teams that nobody really gives a damn about public and they both could and they both could

be the playoffs. Yeah. I mean, it's just been that kind of a year where, you know what, you knew that some teams, that's just the way the NFL is. Teams improve, you know, whether it's coaching, whether it's talent acquisition, whether it's a new general manager. You know, I talked to less Sneed, who's a GM in the Rams. He thought he was gonna get fired this time last year.

I mean he was worried. I mean he's like, well, they're gonna bring in a new coach and they're gonna bring in a guy who wants power, and I'm gonna lose my job and all that. And now all those guys with what McVay has done, you know, they've just thing turned things around and everything's all happy and bright. There you've got the NBA ramping up, where there's two teams really that can win the title. Probably in the

NFL is the exact opposite. Yeah, I mean it's literally thirty two teams every year you think has a shot, and I maybe you want to take the Browns out of that mix. Maybe it's thirty one. They're they're struggling, but it's it's parody. It's it's the way the cap works. And that's great, but it's hard to maintain that level of success. And the cow was gonna enter the offseason the same boat they always do. Probably a third of

this roster is going to change. We're gonna see a lot of these guys for the last time on Sunday and then Monday when they clean out their lockers and had their exit interviews. So your New England things causing me to think when when would be the last time they didn't qualify for the playoffs. I want to say it's two thousand and five when Matt Castle. Yeah, they were eleven and five, eleven games without Britty. So here's my question. How many times has another team from the

AFC East qualified as a wild card team? Well, last day, two years, Dolphins went to Dolphins went to was it last year? The Dolphins went to Pittsburgh? Last year? Yeah, okay, yeah, and then the year before the Jets ended at ten and six. They were knocked out because the Bills beat them in, so they didn't qualify. Well, hey, the Jets, the Jets got to a couple. I wish I had my book right now here we answer my own question. Got to because my feeble memory doesn't help me. Yeah,

I know that. I know that Miami got in last year with with Ogin's Pittsburgh. Yeah, last year, right, as as a wild card. Yeah, My point is there hadn't been many challenges to New England in that division for a decade. Yeah, Well, they've been pretty good regard they have. Yeah, I mean, but there hasn't been another team to say, oh, maybe we're gonna split with them, and we got a chance to win the division. I think the biggest I

think the biggest thing I had with this division. If you ask me the preseason to rank where and I did the talent level of Okay, who were the ranked the four teams in the division of talent? Do you guys have an idea how you would do that? I know what I did, But I knew the Giants were top two. Giants were one number two team. Yeah, I thought that Cowboys coming in, and then the Giants were number two because I actually, yeah, i'd Philly and then you know, I mean, it's crazy to believe that the

Giants were as bad as they were. I think we felt like their defense could carry them again. And you still have Eli Manning. But we pointed out week one the deficiencies they had upfront and the running game. And then you lose a couple receivers and you get banged up. This is what happens. Yeah, but before they lost those receivers,

everybody was like, oh, look at those receivers they brought in. Yeah, you know, oh, how are you going to Brandon Marshall And we kept saying, oh, offensive line, how are you going to protect the quarterbright? And then their defense was going to be out of this world true and it wasn't, and then they stuffered some injuries. I think offense. I think the point I'm trying to make is the talent level in this division as opposed to the AFC East.

Is that fair to say? Yes, that that that the Dolphins, the Bills, and the Jets just aren't as talented as the Giants, the Redskins. You know, well just may he was playing quarterback for those teams. Yeah, you got a Hall of Famer and Eli Manning, whether you like or not. And then no, no, no, I mean in the AFC East. Oh yeah, Jay Cutler, Cutler comes off the couch, Tyrod Taylor, Tyrod Taylor. Yeah, and then the Jets. I didn't mean to start this conversation by minimizing what the Patriots have

done for No, I'm not trying to minimize. No, they haven't been challenged, is what I'm saying. Right, Yeah, I think they've been challenged in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, they've been challenged. Yeah, but they they've had to go win a game at Denver. No. The reason I said that was because of what's happened in the NFC East. It's been a different champion every year. Somebody has been good enough to win. It. Probably need to focus on this team, Tay, Sorry we took it. No, No, I mean, you know

it is what it is. What's going on in this team right now is a lot to do with what's going to happen in twenty and eighteen. We look at Tyron Smith and Orlando Scandrick place on IR today as Brant is back at practice today after missing yesterday with the tendonitis, and you know, it's an up and down season and I think we all kind of expected that with Orlando and Tyrn for this week. But what are your thoughts on that? Yeah? This, you know, I give Tyron Smith a lot of credit for trying to do

what he could do. You know, I feel like that he seriously, Yeah, every week it was a challenge for him. Excuse me. They tried to They tried to balance practice for him, They tried to make it as making as comfortable as possible to play for these games. He clearly wasn't the same player, you know, and there were times where he tyron was outstanding and there were times where you could say, Okay, did the back causing problems here?

Did just the matchup causing problems here? He wasn't the same player that we've seen from him before, and I think with a back injury you have to have some concern. Offensive line, he plays a position where he leverages people, you know, and will his back hold up? It sound like that he doesn't need surgery. But you know, Jason Garrett didn't rule anything out, you know, he said, hey, this is something you know we talk about another day. But I think it's a credit to him to try

and play Scandrick. To me, you know, anything I say about Scandrick has taken as sour grapes because of my relationship or lack of with him. But I think this was a really a failed year for him. He got the captain's ship. I've said that a bunce, you know, and then the young kids have come in. It's ended his career and he's had a very good career here.

He really has. You know, whether whether you like his personality or not, or whether you get along with him or not, but he has had a good career here, and if it is his last campaign with the Cowboys, you know, I'll remember him as a good football player. Here. Well, the e things insignificant. They were both going to be inactive. Yeah, So it was just basically a vehicle to give two guys on the practice squad, basically a twenty thousand dollars happy New Year gift because they get to they get

to get on the fifty three man roster. Who knows if they'll be active on game day or not. I think Lenora has a chance. I think he does, especially if Noah Brown remained sick. Yeah. Well, yeah, Noah Brown. Cole Beasley is sick too, right, Cole Beasley's the one had practiced all week, and Butler hadn't played in seemingly forever three weeks. Yeah, so maybe they need another wide receiver. Trayvon Johnson. He's got a chance to be up this week, especial, Yeah,

taking Durant spot. Yeah, I think that. Well, Durant has been in interactive every week, he hadn't been playing, so yeah, I mean, but you have to figure out, you have to figure out where, uh you know, where you can add him to the mix. Uh, you know, I just don't get the feeling, you know, when you when you start the one guy, like I say, the reason why I said Lenore, and I'm sorry, I'm gonna get to your answer, I swear I am. But the one guy I get the feeling that practices with the first team

and gets first team work is Lenore. That's and then the other ones Kadeem Edwards and stuff like that. I just think, like Tay was saying, and Mickey was saying, a nice thank you very much being a hard worker all year long. And then it also doesn't have to make them, uh sign future I mean the future contracts. They could say, Okay, we've got those two guys taking care of let's focus on some of the other guys. But I don't I don't see I don't see him

being an active guy. He's a more twenty eighteen guy. Yeah, I meant the prop he's not going to make you not draft a linebacker, you know, Yeah, I mean, you know he's going to be part of Okay, come in and compete, come in and be a guy. And obviously they liked him enough to say, hey, we want you around here, and they're willing to say, justin Durant, thank you very much, but we need your spot, and Justin Durant was probably happy to give it to him, talking

about I mean that guy could play. I mean if they wanted to get him active special teams. Yeah, you know you seet in March Lillard, Yeah, what were you gonna say? Rob? Well, just you mentioned Skandrick and he basically spoke in past tense yesterday. Sure he did about his time with the Cowboys, and he's smart. He knows he's under contract. He doesn't know what's going to happen. I guess there's always a chance he's back, but you know, he thanked the Joneses for his time with the organization.

If he is let go or potentially traded, we'll see. Jerry was asked about it on the fan this morning and basically Jerry just said he's under contract and that's where we are, so we'll see what happens. I think Skandrick recognizes the youth movement that we've seen in the secondary over the last month, and he said those, I mean, he admits those guys who are playing well, so it might be time to move on. We'll see. He might have played his last game in Dallas. Well, I think

in his mind he has. Yeah, I think it was in his mind three weeks ago he was done. He wasn't gonna go play. He was gonna make a business decision. Yeah. It's like if I'm gonna if I'm gonna have a chance to be traded or a chance in free adency, if I'm a release, I want to make sure I'm healthy. Yeah, I don't want to go into there with you know, questions add back. Yeah, so I don't think he wanted to play. Yeah, it wasn't that they didn't let him play.

I don't think he wanted to play. Yeah. Always one of the interesting characters. And I mean I mean that in respect. I really do. I respect the way the guy played. He's a smart guy. He's at SIS. Yeah, he's he's played through some things. But you know what, he realizes he's one of those guys. He's not one of those guys that walked in here with with blinders on. He walked in here, he was he had a chip on his shoulder the immediate the day he got here.

He was a fifth round pick at a Boise State belt. He should have been drafted and he and he and he felt like he got blackballed. He'll even say it. He felt like he got blackballed. Yeah. Boys, Yeah, coaches didn't talk about me nice and know blah blah blah. Always had a chip on his shoulder. I respect him for that, you know, But playing nine years with the same team, Yeah, no, I mean and then and then, you know, he's always kept his salary where there was

never a question about letting him go. It was never like, boy, he makes too much money. It was always kind of did his deals and to your increment years Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, sure, you could take money for me, but you're going to give it back to me, and he would get it back double or triple what it was. And he you know, he never made enough players on the ball. He never intercepted the ball. He's kind of the typical cowboy cornerback that we've seen in the last ten years, you know,

just never made enough plays. But but here's the other thing, and I'm sure they will con it or some of this. They have to be very careful and not be cavalier about getting rid of guys and putting more dead money into the salary cap. Sure, because they will start the year before as soon as the year starts with fourteen million dollars in dead money already for twenty eighteen, Scandrick will be roughly another four right if he's not here unless he's a June one designation. I think, where's the

other dead money coming from? Romo? Romo Thornton and those you're big two? I believe there was two guys that had the same amount. Um, was it Nolan Carroll? But that was and it was Carroll. Yeah, those those four, those three guys are nearly fourteen million in dead money. Yeah. Nine of it's Romos yeah wow. And then the other the other two guys is two and a half and two. Yeah, I think, so you have to be careful, you know when everybody talks about Deaz, okay, that's another eight. Yeah,

you know, talk about Crawford. I don't know the six. I don't see des as being a guy that's going to be released. I don't either, that's me. I don't know. But but the way the way things have gone for Orlando Scandrick, yeah I do. I felt like that was a leading and I understand what he's saying today when Dees was asked that a little bit the way he

was asked, Yeah, the way he was asked. You know, if you go back and listen to it, I mean, I don't know who asked this specific question, but it's kind of like, hey, you think you're going to be here or not? You know, you give that answer like it's so uncertain for these guys. You know, if he's like, hell, yeah I am. You know that I believe in me. But next my answer to that would have been, next question. Yeah,

I don't have to answer that, Marvin Lewis. It's contract stuff. Yeah, you know, are you willing to take a pay cut? Next question? I don't have to answer that. Sure, that's hard. Then that question is like what kind of none of your business? One of them, because it's like, if you're willing to take a pay cut, do you believe in yourself? Are you not really strong enough? There's a way, there's a way to work around that. We all know the answer.

We all know the answer. Hey, listen, it's that's something in the offseason. That's not my pay grade. No, that's not I I mean, you know, the owner has an open door policy, the head coach has an open door policy, and you know own the player and the and the the head coach have already spoken. I think the next thing that's going to happen is the player's going to

talk to the owner general manager. Well, Jerry was very, very supportive of Dez on the fan sure he was said he had a lot, has a lot left in the tank. H feels like he's really evolved since he's been here. I talked about his maturity, was not concerned about his comments that he made. And that was about a fifteen minute interview with reporters earlier this week. Can I can I throw something out? Did Tony Romo have a problem throwing the ball to Roy Williams? Well, what's

going back a little ways, Mickey. He never really connected with Roy Williams, did he? Yeah, but I think there was some Roy Williams problems. Okay, I'm just saying, though Dez and Dak we make a big deal about that. Yeah, but they had no problem connecting last year. No, I'm just saying though, I'm just saying when you bring up the lack of connection, Romo has had his issues with other receivers before. I'm just saying it happens with quarterbacks

and receiver and thought of that. You know, when we talk about Tony it's always in the vein. Roy Williams was a bust here, Let's be honest. It's always in the vein of with Tony. It's like, well, Tony threw this guy opening well, Tony and Tony made, and Tony made that kid they got from San Diego, Leron Robinson made him. You know, that's fair. But I'm saying they

made a big commitment to go get Roy Williams. They made a big commitment to pay Roy Williams that never worked out, and and a lot of it was not on just totally on Roy Williams. Tony Romo had trouble throwing him the football. You know what you're You're starting to come clear again. Yeah, well, I mean obviously Roy's production was not good when he was here. It was terrible. Yeah, it was a terrible kid. It was a terrible trade.

It was a terrible extension of a contract. I think they resigned him before sure they did, really got there, Sure they did. Oh, that was part of the trade. He came in a game another contract. Yeah. Right, By the way, Detroit didn't want him in anymore. I'm just telling you though, that quarterbacks and receivers, especially elite receivers don't always mesh. Can you fix it or just go back to where it was? I mean, what happened? Explain it to me? Offensive line? Yeah, yeah, it was a

big problem. He's right, he said this all along offensive line is why your season is the way it is. In my opinion, your left tackle situation, your left guard situation. You're waiting on your right tackle to get better. And it finally happened. But it took a while. It took. It was too late. You'd already you'd already spent games, you'd already spent games trying to fix the thing. Yeah,

but I'm just saying. I'm just saying, when you want to dump on Dez about the connection with Prescott, go back and remember if you're if you're a Tony Romo fan, go back and remember his problems with Roy Williams. Remember that because they were big. Well that's a perfect segue, because we are going to get into whether Dez will be playing or not and who else will be playing or not coming this Sunday, when we come back from

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for Sunday. The last time you'll read that in twenty seventeen. Oh no, I know, I know that's depressing. You're not gonna come here in New Year's even do a show? Would you like to join me? You're gonna do it. You can read it on your game show. Yeah, we'll do pregame. How about that? Ryan can do it from the Star better dressed warmly? All right, guys, what's the last practice of the season? And des Bryant returned? Is he gonna play on Sunday? Wow? Are you? Are you?

Are you waiting with bated breath to find out that answer? My extremely intelligent colleagues here are going to give you the scoop. What do y'all think? I was going to say, what does it matter? I'm gonna say matters. I think he I think he plays. I think he plays. I think he's got something that proven. Then I think, you know, listening to Jerry today, they want to get to nine and seven. They don't want that eight and Nate hanging over their head all off season long. Now, I do

think that that's still doable. You know, a nine and seven record for this team is still doable in this game. Yeah, no, it is. I mean, yeah, it depends a lot on too. What's Philly gonna do? That's what we don't know. I still haven't seen a definitive yeay or nay. I think some of it does kind of sound like Foles is expecting to get more work at least at some point throughout this game. And then when do they give way

to Nate Sudfield? Yeah, I think. I mean what I read this morning, they were sort of pointing out what we've been pointing out. He didn't look all that good in this lage, right right, That's it. But if you listen to the Philadelphia players talk, this sound very familiar to how the Cowboy players talked last year by giving lip service. Yeah, like, yo, that's this important game and you ought to go out there and win. And I'll have to go into that by week. Let me let

me tell you this. As soon as Lane Johnson has that one miss block and Nick Foles gets hit right in the face by DeMarcus Lawrence trying to get sixteens. It's Doug Peterson's gonna take that visor off his head and go nay, nay, nay, where are you get ready? AG's already gonna have his helmet on the They're already that that team in Philadelphia is already a very handicapped and wounded team without without Carson Wentz playing quarters. I bet they tried to set to rest as many guys

on defense. Yeah, because that's definitely that's gonna be the calling card, right, Oh, that they're gonna have They're not gonna score. They're they're not going to score enough points. That's the problem. That's the problem. You mean Sunday or in the playoffs and the playoffs, not with Nick, not with that guy playing quarterback. The belief is there. Yeah,

I don't know. I mean, I I I'm rely hang on, I'm I'm thinking maybe they're a complete enough team to get to the NFC Championship Game and we'll see what happens at home. But you're right, they're not the same with wins. There's no question about it. Who's gonna be the sixth seed in this thing? Who do you who do you predict will be the sixth seed of the teams, Atlanta or Seattle Atlanta? Seattle Atlanta. So you think they're gonna beat Carolina? Yeah, yeah, I think they're gonna win

at home? All right, Atlanta's offense against you know, Atlanta's defense first, that offense? Yeah, yeah, okay. Who Seattle playing the forty nine ers? Yeah, yeah, no, no no, no, no, Rams are playing the forty niners. So they're playing the Cardinals. Is it is that right? No? No, no, that's right. It's the other way. They're playing the forty nine ers. Sure. I thought that the forty nine ers were upset that the Rams have to guess I'm sorry, didn't bring my

all right, is okay, I can look it up. I just read somewhere that the forty nine ers were upset that the Rams were sitting all their guys. Yeah, because it was like, oh, yeah, it is the Cardinals Sunday twenty five. So the Seattle's playing the Cardinals at home at home? Yeah okay, yeah, after which you saw with Seattle's defense, Yeah, they played well yeah, pass rush yeah. Can they score enough points on the road that playoff game? I will take my chances with Russell Wilson playing against

Nick Foles. That's just me. I'll take my chances with with the reigning MVP last year playing against Nick Foles at the Rams. If this, if Carson, if Carson Wentz was in this game, you could tick at them to probably be going to the super Bowl. But he's not. It's Nick Foles. Miraculous come back. It should have gotten you a Foles jersey for Christmas. It's Nick Foles, Nick Foles. Nick might as well be Nick Fails. Oh get ready,

that is a drop kent. Yeah, keep it forever. When we're sitting here people, people caught on with the Bucks thing too. That way we were doing that was all ye when that was going on. You saw that one on Twitter. Here, I am are fans out there here, I am saying that Falcons are going to be the succeed and I just never believed in Matt Ryan. Yeah, MVP. The big question is though, can the Browns win win? Who are they playing Steelers? Oh but the Steelers might

set everyone right. Oh, They've got to win. They gotta win. They have a chance, they have a chance for home field, home field. Bless the Brown Jackson jump in Lake Erie how was the bet right that he made with himself jump of the lake and they go one and fifteen again and they can't pull off because they're playing at the same time as the Patriot. Sure, so for some odd reason, the Jets beat the Patriots. If they win,

they get home field, right, Yeah, that ain't happenings. The Rice Pettiot quarterback, who I liked at one time, not anymore. You got Katie Cannon his receiver, all the practice squads like gum on my shoe. I can't get rid of him. I love Brian right now, Brian, let's talk about something funny, then talk about the locker room drama. This is a round this league. Yeah, we've never said I feel like I haven't seen before with Eli Apple, Landing Collins, you're

talking about Earl Thomas. You talk about all these guys. What's going on? They? Why are they fighting? Welcome to the NFL. Well, I'll tell you what it is. He goes to me. It's it's where, it's your line of work. And I mean this, and oh, I completely agree in your line of work and respect to you and what you do because it's very important to what we do

here at the Dallas Cowboys and to the fans. But there's so many people now, there's the day of a Mickey Spagnola working for a newspaper walking in there and being one of three or four guys talking to players has now turned into a gaggle of reporters who really don't have business being in that locker room. Yeah, and I think that's where the relationships that he built in the nineties and newspaper men and women made through the nineties is a testament to them. Now it's a let's

see if we can draw players off sides. Let's see if we can make them feel uncomfortable. Let's see if we can. Let's let's tmz this if we can't, you know. And I think that's where we've we've come. And that's why you have drama, because what happens is these players like a Landing Collins, who who might have saddled up with Mickey or a Bob Glauber of Newsday is as ana. Yeah, a Newsday or whatever he's with, might have saddled up to him and said, you know what, an Eli Apple

is not a game answer, he is a bad guy. Well, how do you want me to report that? I don't care how you do it, Bob, he is a bad guy. Well, nowadays you just have to say it and then it's taken in a way that yeah, tweets and Texas and or they don't bother telling anybody, they just tweet it themselves, I know. And see that's the sad thing, you know. I completely agree obviously. Social media is it has a great positives. You know, you're able to do things like quickly, Yeah,

find news quickly. But all of this drama does stem a lot from this, you know, the quick bites and oh Eli Apple's mom tweets too much and you know all this different stuff and it's like that's where it just needs we know too much information. Well, I think the NFL needs to put in to place a stronger social media policy with the players, with the players, because they have one on the clubs. It's it's probably too late. You're right, it has too late. You can't put the

genie back in the battle. There's more vehicles for it now. But this is what happens when you lose and when you have a miserable season. Guys are going to point fingers at each other. It's happened throughout the history of sports.

But there's also money involved. As people are looking when they're trying to market their guy, they're going, oh, look how many followers he has if he's doing this Instagram models, this is this is how, this is how how how much exposure you can get for your product with my guy? That's those agents are in these guys ears telling them, oh yeah, go ahead, use Twitter, get followers. We want followers.

You get followers, you get endorsements. Well, players and players have also figured out to be controversial is a way if you're outside the Skip bayless. Yeah, if you will. Players, well, what I'm saying is they see that too. Yeah, if you want to get on the NFL network, be a controversial guy. Be a guy that's not afraid to say what's going on here? Have the Falcons and Panthers already started? No, that's a whole game. I saw a tweet today It

was hilarious. The headline DeMarcus where you know he's been doing some different things with the NFL network. It said, DeMarcus where puts the end to the water burger in and out debate? I was like, what, who cares about this? Right? Who is reading this article? Somebody's clicking on it, clickbait. Huh agent. Yeah, it's it's so good attention. That's the problem though, And it's it happens in this locker room as well. It does. It's happening all over the world

right now. His entertainment now, reporting and journalism is out the window. It's it's gone. The lines are blurred, There's no question about it. The lines are blurred. Everybody's trying to make money. Oh why I didn't figure that out. You've got figured out. Oh I haven't abuse. I get on Twitter. I should be take your own advice. Yeah, go go get yourself out right, like your advice stay off Twitter. Yeah no, I just you know, I worry

about it. We're looking at the draft and you got to find these guys on social media now and see what they're saying and what they're doing, and you know, see what they're posting. And well, I'll teach your horn a little bit. I know. The fact that the front office guys come and talk to you about that, you know about you know, the social media stuff and how

to do the angles and stuff like that. I think you're a very good resource to the organization, Like, hey, this is what I look at, and this is what you know, and I give you credit for that. If you know, if if that, if that's what this has become, then it's smart from the front office perspective to say, hey, Taylor, how can you help us do this? Or how can you help us do that? You know it just it give advice or guidance. I think that's You're absolute right.

I think this is the way that the things are going. Yeah, thank you. But I think you know Mickey is right too, in the sense where it's like, Okay, now, I'm Dak Prescott. I have five hundred thousand followers on Twitter when I was at miss to be sitting at maybe twenty. I don't know, I don't know. You know, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm sure you guys well, but what I'm saying is end. It's like the agent's like, Yo, you send that deal with Kia, got that thing? You gotta

tweet out? This you gotta is now your social media is so different than it was. Even it's about promotions too, about it's about airplanes and what chips is he doing now? Is it tostadas or tostitos? Tostitos? Yeah, tostitos, he does an he'll do He'll do lays every now and then too. Yeah, it's just a bizarre competing chips. Huh, biz our world. That's you know, you gotta we have to give Rob the time off the belt bull started already. Yeah, we

get through locker room. Maybe, Okay, we'll get through locker room and Monday we'll be garbage bag day here. So it's already fourth and two. By the way, garbage bag day. It's always kind of a sad day. It's kind of like it's depressing. It's so depressing. It is. So when I first saw that, I was like, seriously, why do we have to be in this end. It's a strange site because, like I said earlier, a lot of the guys that are in the locker room you're not gonna

see again. Oh, because the roster naturally turns over to a certain degree every year at the end of the Packers game. Last year, obviously the Cows were in the divisional game, so it was a little bit longer than this. But I'm sitting there and I don't know if you guys all sat up a Brandon Carr threw his helmet onto the field and just kind of like you know, was in Brown Broke Down. Yeah, that's a great way to describe it. For about five minutes. I remember looking

at him. That was the last time I ever saw him in person. Yeah. Yeah, remember last year and on Garbage Back day, the whole media walked in and Tony Romo was still in there, and he was walking out right as the media is walking in and said, I'm not talking and he just walked out, and I think I turned to you, Rob and said, I think that's the last time we're ever going to see that guy.

It's it's really it's really weird, and it doesn't really hit you until maybe you get word that yeah Tony has been released, and it's like, wow, I saw him on January fifteenth and that was it. But yeah, but you know, you get in a situation too with the players have had enough that when the season's over, it's

over for them. I mean, it's not gonna be over for guys like Tyrn Smith and Sean Lee and Dak Prescott and yeah, but it's over for it's over for those guys that are the players forty through, you know, the Bryce Butler's of the world. Bryce Butler's a contract is up. I don't see Bryce Butler coming back here. Jason Witten had some interesting things to say obviously every season, and that's a good point about Bryce Butler. Will look

into that. But Jason Witten every year fifteen season, I feel like the same questions acts, are you going to be back next year? Yeah? And you know, of course he has a great way to put it, like, yeah, he's got more in him. He's a tough guy. Yeah, this might be a hard offseason for him. But they Yeah, there's a lot. Like I say, Rob, you guys are right. It's you walk in there and you see those guys and then you know you won't see him ever again,

You really won't. They become like and then they become part of something like me and Mickey trying to remember, well, who was that guy? Who was that you know, who's a backup? You know three years who's that guy they had? Remember they use that guy as are you? Yeah exactly? Just remember Richard ashe remember him? You remember? Yeah, well Wilcox was little. Just be ready for Sunday night on the charter flight home that the gasket will blow off,

all the pressures gone. Yeah, it will not be a morgue on that last And now it doesn't even matter if it's news. They know it's over. Yeah, it's like they blow off steam. Yeah. Well, the thing about it is it mean I've seen it too. That's why I don't like going on the planes anymore, because too many times I thought it was Mardi Gras going on in the back. Anyway, You know when I was, when I was dying in the front after a loss. All right, well, let's seven to nothing, all right, I don't break here.

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talking cowboys, all right. We're gonna feel good about this Papa John's pizza one more time, all right? And you need it for New Year's Eve. I wonder if we get something to go on a charter flight. Why what happened, Bobs? Well, it's because we know that pizza with those ingredients, with those veggies, with those pepperoni's and sausage, it's all gonna be so fresh, whole, never frozen. One pork and beef and we could have a pizza party with Papa John's

like it pizza parties, Pizza parties. Rob, Is this your last Twitter pool of twenty seventeen? Yes, it is. We had to decide on the one yesterday. But was that the one that was so close? Yeah? Dude, text or tweeted me and asked, what was your answer to that mine? Yeah? Who do you feel best about? Offense? Defense, special teams going into twenty eighteen? Oh? I forgot I remember I danced around like I was like Fred Astaire on that one. Uh.

I feel better actually about it's gonna sound crazy. I feel better about the defense, all right, crazy, that's two and two. I think taysaid defense offense? All right? Well, today's pool related to Orlando Scandrick. Could he have played his last game? Same with the Cowboys. We'll see. I'm curious who the best fifth round pick in Cowboys history is, and he's part of that potential list. Oh that's not fair. Did you research it and come up with some No, Mickey,

just guess five. I thought he was going to ask us. It's like, okay, well tell me who you think it is. Well, yeah, if I wanted to enter the poll right now, but the poll's up. Okay, we got four options. We need some help from you and Brian, probably because me and Tay don't go as far back as you guys do. Walt Garrison, Blaine Nigh, offensive flyman, Orlando Scandrick, or herschel Walker best fifth round pick? Everybody bet you. Everyone said

herschel Walker. Yeah, because nobody knew who Blaine Nigh and nobody knew who Walt Garrison. Walt Garrison's considered one of the all time great There's no dat amazing that Ken's dad was uncle uncle wal Is it is it weird that what's the hershel Walker situation? If he had been an NFL player, he would have been a first round player, right, Yes, and he had already been in the yell and he was that eligible to be drafted. It took a flyer on five I think it was four five and then

so they had his rights right when the USFL folded. Well, he dominates this polete You're right eighty percent. And I think a lot of it has to do with what they got back in the trade. Yes, yes, it's more about Yeah, the trade that pretty much create helped create the dynasty here in the nineties. Although he was a heck of a running back. Orlando Scandrick comes in at third with seven percent. Although ten years with this organization as a fifth round pick in two thousand and eight,

that's a heck of a career. Who were some of the other fifth round picks that you perused over the top of your head? Hey, why not? I settled on those four. You don't remember others that you look, I'd have to go back and look. We did a top ten list on it back in the spring. These were fifth round Yeah, and these these are the top four that we came up. What was Brady James? I got got it? Top ten fifth round picks, Rob, you said you guys did that on March thirty first, twenty seventeen. Yeah,

March story first. Probably do it again. Loading, it's loading, it's loading. Oh is it loading just when you want it right away? No? I know, Mick. You know what. Walt Garrison was a really I could speak from experience of watching walk Garrison play very physical runner, tough because of the rodeo background, stuff like that block blocked very well. Was one of those guys you could throw him the football. I you know, I was always impressed by him just

because of the toughness. Well gress I blacked the right Way to good Eye Black when he played, So yeah, I liked him quite a bit different day and age too. I think the story goes his signing bonus. It was a trailer horse trailer, right, It was the inline horse trailer. He still has it still on his property, right, and I guess it's I'm sure if they'd call it our Vial or Bartonville. He was at the Cowboys game last week. Guy, he was the legend of the game. He was the

legend of the game. Oh, I'm sorry, this is still loading. Oh my gosh loading. But no, I and then maybe I'll send it. Who else we had? We had Scandrick. We all know about him. Blaine and I was made a couple of Pro Bowls. Yeah, offensive lineman in an error where they you know, where the Cowboys offensive line was back in the day was pretty good. You know, you look at some of the guys that they had. Okay, we got it. Yeah, ten Andy Frederick, he was a tackle.

Never played for him. Yeah, right, I traded him, didn't they? Mat He pay was on Super Bowl team? Was Matt Lear Matta La Yeah? Two three offensive line Virginia Tech eight, Gary Hogeboom Gary Hogan Boom quarterback yep, start on Survivor m I don't know, helped me, helped me get my my first job in Dallas. He was involved in one of the most debated quarterback controversies in team history. That's

right with Danny White. Danny White. Yeah, Oh, Danny White was on the cover of the Dallas Time Times Harold football previews section and the day they were going to print, Tom announced that Gary Hogan Boom was going to be the starting quarterback. I need that jersey. The day I came in for my interview and he said, Okay, you're gonna have to sit there and wait a while. We got to change our special section. There you go. Crazy seven. Steve pull Yeah he made the list. Yeah. He was

famous for getting knocked out in games. He was always like every time it was a big play by the Bears, it was like Steve Lurgant crushed Jimmy got here and hated him. Yeah, that's why they they drafted Aikman and basically said, you know what, we can just trade he was he was Walsh was eighty nine too, Yeah, the same and blurred at Washington. Plur made the mistakes holding out on a contract. Yeah, number six is another jersey I should probably get because it's an awesome last name.

Can you guess awesome last name? Darren Hambrick, Oh, darn Ambriger. Actually he was pretty darn good. That's why he's number six. He had one hundred and fifty four stops. He was a little dent tackler into that a little him and his brother a little crazy. I was gonna say nutty crazy's probably more. Did he did he copyright his famous Yes, he should have tell me the famous line, rob, what do you voluntary mean? That's right? When asked about why

he's not an OTA's right? Yeah, yeah, quarterback school is probably back. Then. Man did the best handbrik in Cowboys history. He was better than Darren. Darren was better than Troy right, yes, yeah, like a Hamburg he was good. Right, He's not right, He's right. He was just a tad. That's a great last name. But handbrike is kind of like, Hey, he started for the Indianapolis Colts after he left here, all right. Five Ron Springs really good player, do it all player

in the early eighties. Yeah, he should have been a little higher. Yeah, he was a good player. Four Walt Garrison, the true Cowboy skull dipping in all school, dipping it all. Number three Scandrick, Yes, send your career. He has a fifth round pick. One of those didn't make Rob's poll. Number two Blaine nine, played in three Super Bowls. Yeah, spent his entire nine year career with the Cowboys, very similar to number three on this list. Year. They didn't

move around very much back in the day. No free agent, Yeah, no free agency, All right, y'all. Number one, herschel Walker, Yeah, it's gotta be, it's gotta be. Yeah. I think herschel Walker being number one no more for the trade than really for what kind of player he was, and he was. He was good. I mean he led him in rushing and eighty eight and he was He was not the same player that he was at Georgia. But but what happened when he got here is Dorsett was here and

they shared. Yeah, eighty six was a share. And I'll go back and say it again. You know, through eight games they had the number one offense in the league until Danny White got hurt in Game nine against the Giants. Yea. They won one more game the rest of the year. Herschel was. I mean, he was a straight line runner. He couldn't make people miss, and that's why Jimmy thought, you know what, move, We're gonna trade this guy because I can't win with him, right And he was right,

you know, and then they picked up Emmett the next year. Well, let's go to the phone lines. We have Mark from Texas Online. What is your question? Hello? Did we make you laugh? Yeah? Good? Well I'm a little off topic, but I wanted to ask a question about Dak and Lenahan. At the first of the year, I noticed Dak was, you know, coming up like on third down, and he

would turn his back to the line of scrimmage. And I'm assuming that he's changing routes, and I just wanted to ask you all, if you jump off that, maybe you know, I don't think Lenahan really is a run first offensive coordinator. I think he's really talented. But do you think they put too much on back, you know, something that maybe a four or five year quarterback is supposed to do. And if you could leave me on, let me hear your answer. I appreciate it. I'm on

the phone. But he did that early in the year when they were averaging twenty eight points a game in six consecutive games. Right, yeah, so not against Denver and when Oh but you're not going to be perfect. Yeah, Well, it just looked to me like he all that was going through his head and a lot of times he'd get the snap and he wasn't making those like those head movies like he was reading the field. He looked

like he got lost to me on someplace. So I don't know, I just was wondering if you guys noticed any of that. I mean, I noticed that he I thought he was doing more at the line of scrimmage than he did last year. I will agree with you on that. I don't know that it was to his detriment. You know, I'll back to where Brian started the show. When your offensive lines not playing well, your quarterback doesn't have a lot of time back there to look around.

I think the one thing we have to be careful of this though, when we're talking about the offensive line or the offense. Looking back the last six games before Zeke got suspended, he played eight games. You take after the Denver game, I think no, it was after the Arizona game. They put up thirty one points a game, almost thirty two points a game, and then he got suspended and they had Tyring out and they had Sean

Lee out. That's why I want to break it into chunks, because there was a large stretch of this season where this offense was putting a lot of points on the board. So I think we got to be careful when we look back and say this offense had a terrible year. They didn't respond well without Zeke for the first part of his suspension, but they were They looked like an elite offense before he went out for six games, and I think we have to remind ourselves of that. But

offensive line going forward, yes, there are questions. You gotta look at your swing tackle, you gotta look at your left guard situation, how Tyrant's back. I mean, yes, absolutely, but they still are capable. They are still capable of the talent is still there. And I think that's what Jerry is. What happened to the Seattle game, I don't I don't know. I mean I think, I mean, yeah, but I mean you had you had the pieces back

in place that you had success. If Tyran went out after three plays, yeah, and the protection wasn't there, And was that game on the OC or was it on the player. Well, I think yeah, you can point out you can make not just somethingout the one play on the sequence on the on the goal line did, but overall did did the fact that they didn't have a good plan going into the Seattle game, or they didn't

execute the plan. I mean, I'm just asking. I'm not trying to be a smart a you certainly I'm not say because I'm saying there are turnovers were part of the plan. No, I don't think it never is part of the plan. Well, but then that kind of screws up the plan. You lost three possessions, lost them and one you were in scoring position. I think you can make your argument there, and you can point to the Atlanta game that the coaches readily the coaches admit that

readily admitted we didn't adjust well enough. Now, they weren't expecting Chaz Green to play as poorly as he did, but they didn't adjust. So yeah, you can look. You gotta look at coaching, gotta look at everything. But I'm just saying that when turnovers are on the quarterback, no, it was on the blocking was not for Daz. But I'm just saying, when you have your pieces and look, Tyrant's got to be healthy. But yeah, there are signs from this season that this offense can still be what

you want it to be. Okay, hereattle was not an example of that. I'll give you that for sure. Here's the homework assignment. Whoever chooses to find out go back and look after eight games, what Prescott's numbers were, What was his quarterback rating? What was his interceptions to touchdown rating? Where was the offense ranked, because I bet they were ranked in the top ten, maybe five six, something like that. They only threw in one clunker. It was Denver. That

was it they had. They could have very well after eight games been seven and one. They had some struggles in that first month, but after you know, by the Chiefs game, they were rolling and then Zeke goes out and it changes the dynamic and some injuries happen, and I'm with you, there's some things you can do better to adjust what the personnel you have. See That's why that's why I wonder, why then why you didn't have and Mickey said the turnovers, that's right, But why why

why did they score twelve points against Seattle? That's what I want to know well, and you could say you could say that, I mean, if you want to say that, the tyrant Smith being out is the main reason why. But you had you had your full complimented receivers, you had your running back back. So one of your turnovers cost you three points. Right, you were at the twenty twenty five yard line, right, thirty yard line, something like that, So you had a field goal you well, we think

you did. We think, yeah, the kicker miss two others. Yeah, I missed thirty four yard or on you. So that's I mean, I'm not I I don't know if I'm gonna get on him for the fifty yard three yard line? Yeah, that's nine. And then you don't execute at the three yard line. And look you settle for a field goal early in that game when you Zeke was running five six yards a pop, and you get to the eighteen yard line, you throw twice. You could argue, keep running

the guy, keep running him. So sure there's there's coaching. It was the first field goal drive. I think they had all you rattled off a bunch of runs theither day. Yeah we're zix five six five eight, You know, I mean I heard all I heard all the numbers. He got you all the way the eighteen and you had two incompletions and you settled for a field goal there

it was second and five at the eighteen. Yeah, they went they went empty, and he tried to throw that little out to Zeke and he only got two yards. So I'm with you, Brian. I mean, you have to be careful of just saying, oh, this guy was out. So that's why they struggled. I mean teams Jason wentn said it yesterday. Teams. There's a lot of teams they're gonna play in January that have handled uh injuries and or without guys, they're still going to be in the playoffs.

So see, that's where that's where I'm trying to figure out. When the autopsy is, how can you be so affected by two players missing time? You know, and and maybe you could throw in Smith as being that third guy, you know, my no Smith John Zeke Tyron Yeah yeah yeah. How how do you how does a team just go to a halt, a grinding halt offensively and defensively without those guys that those three games they lost in a row, that's what's alarming, Yes, but that's they did win to

re straight after that. If you figure that out, then you figured out the problems of this season. I still think it's the offensive line myself. Third and three at the sixteen, they tried to throw the ball. Yeah, Cooper and Bell they blitzed. Yeah, Cooper and Bell. They didn't handle the twist the whole thing. And every play before that was Zeke running for five and sixty. So I was sitting there going, well, maybe you just run Zeke

twice here third and three. That's what depth I think, Brian, to his point depth, your depth was not as strong as you thought it was. Everywhere linebacker depth. There was the sick part of that Seattle game. So when they started that, so that was the start of the second quarter, when that sure Cowboys had eighty five yards fifty one on the ground, it's the start fifty one on the ground, ye a, and Seattle at twenty two. Yeah, and all you ended up was three to nothing in with fourteen

eleven ago in the second quarter. Yeah. Oh, a lot of empty possessions in that game, no question over two in the red zone they putted twice. Yeah, they putted seven times, So you're moving the ball. Yeah, See, that's what That's what I'm saying. When you when you look back, it was was the Seattle game? What was the game that should have told us what was about to happen? I thought, it's always Thanksgiving? No, he means, was there a game that kind of should have given us a

clue about the offense? About the offense Thanksgiving? Yeah, I mean Atlanta. Mickey said, we were missing all three guys. So they are missing those guys and throw them, throw those out, throw that one out. See that's where I'm trying to figure this out. I mean yeah, because you could point it at in ahand you could point it at the players. You can. You know, there's things you could do. But a tim you figure that out. You know, the game before the Chiefs game, I think I have it.

They won Washington. Yeah, they spot fest at FedEx. So here was here was Here was the indication of their troubles. And I don't know why. It was. This halftime of the second Giants game, it was ten ten, that's it. Ten ten, Okay, But then they explode. And then they explode. They made them pay for a bunch of blitzes. Right, they finally hit some play hits the big one on one coverage. But it wasn't like they just systematically moved the wall downfield. But again there was no Zeke. Yeah,

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