Talkin' Cowboys: Three 1,000-Yard Receivers?

Star in friscot No. Your hosts Rob Phillips, heck My Harrison, Danny Serek, and Kyle Yeoman's Boy, it's another Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys as we roll along here in this twenty twenty Dallas Cowboys off season, and we're gonna break down quite a few moves actually, that the Cowboys have made since the NFL Draft a couple of weeks ago. Kyle Yeoman's here with our residents, Super Bowl champion Isaiah Standback. We've got Cowboys insider Rob Phillips and our Swiss army

knife of an analyst in Heckma Harris. And that's probably the best way to describe Heckma, of course, and we are having some technical difficulties with Heckma on the audio side of things, but we'll get those worked out in the next couple of moments. But guys, it's it's sinco de mayo. It's the equinox. In terms of the twenty twenty NFL offseason. Ninety three days since Super Bowl fifty four, and it's ninety two and a half days pretty much until the August sixth preseason opener of the Hall of

Fame Game in Canton, Ohio. We're halfway through this offseason hopefully, but at the same time, there's still plenty to talk about because things just keep on happening. Rob Cowboys just keep making moves. Don't think we thought. We talked about it on the show last week that are they done? And obviously they've worked one. They made a couple of signings, and Andy Dalton being the big one that came down over the weekend, and I just I want to get outs take on this because he, like you said, he's

the resident quarterback of this group. But I just want to say, it's not about Dak Prescott. I repeat, it is not about Dak Prescott. You know, I look full disclosure for me. I don't want to see anybody ever lose their job, especially not in the situation that we're in right now across the country, across the world. But from a pure business standpoint, when you look at the Cowboys situation at quarterback, they were going to pay Cooper Rush two point one million dollars to probably be the

backup quarterback. Andy Dalton now comes in and if he doesn't play a snap and he's just the backup for Dak, he makes three and so that's not a huge difference. But you're getting a guy that is a three time Pro Bowl or a nine year starter and has been around and taking a team to the playoffs in Cincinnati five times. I think it was a no brainer for a guy that wanted to come back to Texas. Examine. This is an awesome pickup. I repeat, this is an

awesome pick up. Again, Will and the rest of the crew have done an amazing job over there at the start. Listen if you can pick up, Like you said, this is not about Dak, right, but if you have an opportunity, your jobs as a general manager, your job as a head coach, your job as a scout is to acquire the most amount of talent you possibly can on your roster and making sure that you stay underneath the cat.

If you can acquire that, right, and you can add a talent level like Andy Dalton unto your depth chart, why would you not, right, So, if everybody's out there throwing shade, and everybody out there that's wondering about Dak. Dak is gonna get what close to forty million dollars this year, right, So he's a quarterback, Okay, don't worry about that, whether it's under the franchise, whether it's underneath

a new contract, he's the guy. But you just added somebody who's been to three Pro Bowls, right, yeah, five times, So somebody who has more experience than you're starting quarterback. He's coming in a position where he could just relax. He can be a coach, right, he could be a mentor, and in case something does happen with Dak, that is your best insurance, Paul, So you could have possibly gotten in this entire league. So great move by the Cowboys.

Awesome job. They just continue making them making the best decisions. And I'm glad we're all on the same page in that regard that this isn't about Dak. And that was going to be a conversation that at least if somebody disagreed, I was going to throw that out there. It was that even a possibility. I don't think that's the case.

I think this is one hundred percent of backup role and it's a brilliant idea because if you look at last year, the Cowboys would have loved to have a guy like Andy Dalton throwing the football down the stretch whatever. Dak was having those shoulder issue issues and he had a little bit of a nagging injury that kind of

kept him from being one hundred percent. Now you have a guy that if Dak Prescott isn't one hundred percent and he isn't seeing the same kind of success that he would normally have as the Cowboys quarterback, you could pull in at Andy Dalton for a driver too. It's kind of switch things up. It opens things up for Kellen Moore even more so, even though you did already do that in the draft with Ceedee Lamb. Now you

will it up with the options of backup quarterback. But Isaiah, it kind of brings me to the question of what kind of competition does this cause in the quarterback room because now there's four quarterbacks. We had five. Cooper Rush was released over the past couple of days, but you do have four quarterbacks with Clayton Thorson in there, Ben Denucci, the recent seventh round draft pick, and then Dak Prescott and Andy Dalton of course the top two in the

quarterback room. But what kind of competition, what kind of conversations are going on in that room? Isaiah, Yeah, I mean it's really a three mass show right now. I mean, obviously you got that's the guy, right, I mean, hopefully we can get him signed and get him rolling and be confident in that for however many years, whether it's four year deal, whether it's a five year deal going forward.

And then you have Andy Dalton, who's the one year insurance policy, right, So that's that's that's your insurance policy that you can know just in case anything happens a deck. Any team would prefer to have an experienced playoff, Pro Bowl quarterback as the first option in the first line of defense to be able to come in if something happened to your starter. So that's your insurance policy. And then you got de Nucci, who's obviously he's your development guy, right.

He's a guy that you picked up that you feel like you know has some good talent, but he needs some time. And what better guy has to learn from than dam and Andy. So um, I think that's a great room. It's gonna be competitive, right, it does. It

should light a fire underneath underneath that. Right. Obviously he knows that he's a guy, but right now he's coming underneath if unless they get a deal done, he's gonna be a one year contract guy, right, He's gonna be a franchise guy possibly, or so if he signs that deal, he's underneath the one year contract. Him Andy Dalton are

in the same situation, just for substantially different money. Right, So any Dolton's not gonna allow for him to really fall off in terms of his production, right, Not that he would want to anyway, or that he would because it's a money year for him right now. But any Dalton is that is that guy that you have to look over your shoulder and be like, crap, I gotta be on point because they do have somebody who's proven

that I can't fall off. Because this dude has shown that he's been able to do this, he can do this, and he's waiting for that opportunity because you know, any Dolton's trying to cash a check in next year somewhere. Yeah, Isaiah, it's a good point because he talked about that on Adam Schefter's podcast yesterday, how he's taken a long term view of his career, and he's trying to set up the last half of his career, and he thinks that this is a good move for him, at least for

this year. And he spoke about this too. Look, we're all facing this COVID nineteen crisis across the country. And for him, he has a home, he has his family here in the Dallas area, So to not have to pick up and move your family during an uncertain time made sense for him. He said that that was a factor. But you're right, you know, Mike McCarthy comes in. He wants to develop the quarterback room. He talked about that

before the draft. So Ben Denucci's one edition, and now you've got a guy in Dalton who says, look, I'm willing to help however I can. I think he understands his role. But it's an interesting move by the Cowboys because it's a little bit of a departure from what they've done in recent years. You know, I think it's kind of started with Dak. They get Dak in the fourth round and they develop him into a starter, and they feel like, okay, let's go that route with our backups.

We can maybe go a little cheaper but we were proven that we can develop young quarterbacks. It didn't work with brand Weedon and Matt Castle, and that's that's where the departure went. But now you know, this is like you said, I think this was just too good an opportunity to pass up for a number two guy. Well, when it does, go for it in a sense, no, don't.

Probably I agree with you. That says that they've stayed away from competition in this particular room for a long time, right, like like genuine real competition, not no disrespect to the guys that have passed, like weeding the guys that you've mentioned, right, But this is the first time that they've added anybody of that that can truly challenge the starter aside from

Deck right aside from Deck. When Dad came in and Dak was the backup to Romo, that was the first time that they really had any talent that could really challenge that that starting the position. So I think that this is an absolutely awesome move because it does make that room more competitive in every other position. If you're going to be competitive, why would you always steer away

from it at the quarterback position. You need somebody pushing it in that regarded we're seeing the same thing happened in Green Bay. Yeah, and you saw that happen in Green Bay with Mike McCarthy at the Helm with Brett Farve and then of course Aaron Rodgers there as well. Now they're doing it again with Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love, and we'll see how that kind of works out. But I don't think this is a similar situation by any means.

Now you're you're talking about your starting quarterback being twenty six years old, and now you're backups thirty two and has been to a couple of Pro Bowls and has had a longer career and had ten seasons compared to four seasons of being a quarterback in the NFL. And I like what Rob kind of brought up in the fact of it being the backside of Andy Dalton's career

and him setting himself up for success. This is as much of a gamble for Andy Dalton as it is for the Cowboys, and I think that's one of the biggest things moving forward to look at. I believe we have Heckma back with us. Are you here, Heckma Man? You guys, you know I'm not I'm not made for these technical difficulties man at all. And but yeah, I've been listening to you guys trying to get these get

everything fixed. Look, I don't know as far as I just wanted to tell you guys about my initial reaction to the Andy Dalton signing. And I thought, like every well, I hope, I thought, like everyone else, is that this is just a continuation of the brilliance of the front office signing a guy like Andy Dalton. I mean, for years we've been needing a formidable backup and we got that. I'm sure Rob and Isaiah has already crossed this bridge, but guys, I just felt this though there was no

conspiracy uh there. And maybe I'm just one of those less woke people. I didn't I didn't see the conspiracy. I didn't think that there was anything to the fact that we signed uh Andy. The only thing I thought was as brilliant, you know, brilliant on behalf of Will McClay and Stephen Jones and Jerry. Like I said, the front office just making this decision to bring in a guy that if all else fails, we know that, Look, we have a guy at the backup quarterback position. I

can win us one game. If you go back to Philadelphia last season, I believe that if we had Andy Dalton healthy in a situation where you know, Dak Prescott's shoulder is supplicated for the win to go to the playoffs, I think we all trust Andy Dalton couldn't win us a game. But because we had no faith in our backup, we sent Dak out there and he struggled. Yeah, and you know, I don't know how much the shoulder limited

him in that game. I mean, I'm sure it did a little bit, but I but I do think what it did was the lack of practice time seemed to throw off his timing. So either way, you know, I think the injury affected him in the biggest game of

the season, trying to make the playoffs. And and to you guys point, I was trying to go back and think the last time the Cowboys had a backup quarterback that they brought in, not Tony Romo who wound up being won by by injury, but a guy they brought in that was this accomplished and technically in his prime,

I mean at thirty five years old. But well, you know, they say Bernie Colsar maybe well, I woun't you thinking about him maybe if you go that far back, because but no, no, I mean Brad Brad Johnson in two thousand and eight won a Super Bowl, but he was thirty nine years old and when he played, he didn't play well. And Rynald Cunningham in two thousand was thirty seven. So although Dalton had a bad year last year, and really Cincinnati overall had a bad year, it was a

tough year for the whole team. I still think he's got a lot of years left. Into Isaiah's point, I think he's a guy that can that can still play and has an opportunity, we'll have an opportunity to play somewhere else next year as a starter. I think, yeah, right, I mean to your point, Robert, you're you're touching on it on the fact that you know, last year's last year, so un heck, both touched on the point that last year, right, what an opportunity to go to the playoffs that was

forced to play, he had to play. Right now, your guys, now you're putting yourself in a situation as an organization where you can till you're your starter, right, your franchise QB A chillout right, chillout, get healthy. He has it, We have it covered. Right. He could win this. He can win this this game. He can win us the next game if we need to. We have a starter at backup, a proven starter. Dot's not before just because any Dolphins being a backup this year, he is a starter, right, Yeah, boys,

a baller. He's played with some subpard teams and taking them to the playoffs on a continuous basis. Right, He's had one premiere talent at receiver, right, and he went to the playoffs. Now you're gonna come and bring him to a team that's and completely loaded. Right, So if something was to happen to Dad, you can allow for him to get healthy, tell him to relax, chill out, don't rush back. Let's get you right, because we need

you for the long haul. Long haul not only does season, but we need you for the long haul for the rest of your career to be here and be our quarterback at Dallas Cowboys. Meanwhile, you're also doing in the affair because you can say, hey, get in the game, ball out, a show everybody that you can still play win us these games that we need, right and for this buffer time for Dad to get back if it should that be the case, and then you go out there and get the big bank next year. So it's

a perfect situa wishing for everybody. Yeah, Isaiah, that's that's that's wonderful, And I believe that man, your spot on and everything that you're saying. And Rob, I wanted to to to allude to the Bernie Clozar comparison. You know, in ninety three when we won the Super Bowl, we signed Cols oar Mids. You know, I think after gossh I believe it was he was released by the Cleveland Browns mid season and he comes in and he wins

the Super Bowl. He takes one snap and that was the final snap of the of the Super Bowl to you know, eliminate the play clock. So hey, if Andy Dalton is coming on to do that, then let's do it, all right, Let's let's have this. But at the same time, I think another part of the Andy Dalton signing is the fact that we're playing a lot of AFC teams this year too. I think he's gonna be a guy that's gonna help Dak Prescott and the fact that we're

playing some teams that we like. The Pittsburgh Steellers. We hadn't played them and what four or five years even Baltimore Ravens a lot of the other AFC competition that will be facing. So I think he's gonna be and visor as well and just eyes and ears for Dak on the field off the field, and so I look for this to be a great relationship in the quarterback room from a proven veteran. DA can obviously help improve Dak Prescott's game. That's the only thing I see here.

I don't see this as a slight of Dak Prescott. Now. I don't know what the contract numbers are, none of that, and there's been so much speculation about what it is. But at the same time, I think that Andy Dalton man the red rifle. I'm excited to see him here, Katie texas his own man. This is good. This is good time to be a Cowboy fan. I tell him, well, And Andy Dalton's contract is such a low rest, high reward type of thing. Three million dollars and then the

rest of the contract could get up to seven. But that's basically if he ends up going in and playing a ton of the regular season games. If he is just a backup. Over the course of the sixteen games this year, he's gonna make three million dollars, which is just a fraction more than what Cooper Rush was going to make going into this season as well. But I know, all of the things that we're saying are great, and we're saying, hey, this is a backup that can come

in and win football games. This is a backup that's going to teach everybody. I want to play Devil's advocate here a little bit. Why isn't Andy Dalton a starter right now? Why was he so bad in twenty nineteen that Cincinnati as a team decided to move on. I know they ended up getting a pretty solid little first first overall draft pick by the name of Joe Burrow.

I'm certain of that. But at the same time, what is wrong with Andy Dalton to the fact that he isn't even in the conversation of being a starter in the NFL. Well, I don't. I don't know that he wasn't. I mean, he talked about on Schefter's podcast that he had multiple options, and I mean you can just go around in the league and make it guesses. The Patriots need a quarterback, you know, Jacksonville needs a quarterback, or at least they could bring in a guy that could

compete for the job. There's some teams out there that I think they would they would like to have Andy Dalton on their team. Isaiah spoke to it. You know, they haven't always had a ton of talent in Cincinnati, and look like you said, Kyle, they got the number one pick. Joe Burrow is a fantastic talent. They have not won a playoff game since nineteen ninety, so they decided it was time to go in a different direction.

But you know, Dalton did take them to the playoffs, I believe his first five seasons, and in Cincinnati, that's a franchise that hasn't won a lot of football and in their history, So you know, I think he probably had some options beyond beyond going to a place where he's the clear backup. I bet he could. He could have wound up somewhere to at least compete. Even that

it's even though the fact that it's already made. We haven't got any reports, but I guarantee you that there is at least five teams that that Andy Dalton could have walked straight into the room. He just became the starter immediately. Let's not forget this d was a Pro Bowl quarterback. And I'm not talking about no second or third. You know, I just got in because somebody chose not to go to the Pro Bowl type guy. This dude

was a legitimate Pro Bowl quarterback. He's a beast now, so understand that in this league, for everybody's out there listening, there's this thing called stress, right, and stress will wear you down, right, whether it's in your in your regular, regular jobs, or whether it's the premiere QB for entire NFL organization. He has been bearing the stress of that organization for nine was a nine years? Nine years? Yeah, all right, he has been bearing that weight. Right. They

haven't been good, they haven't surrounded him with talent. He's always had to find a way to make things happen. They've had He's had to deal with his number one, his number one resource, right AJ being injured a lot of times, right, him having to try to figure out a way to still win games. He has been in a very stressful situation. I'm pretty sure that he has gotten to the point where the game just wasn't that

fun for him anymore. Right, and once you start getting to that point, it starts affecting every aspect of your life. It affects your rework ethic, it affects your drive, it affects your personality, affects your moves, it affects your family. Right. So, if all that stuff is being of, all those things are in the arms length of becoming just just crumbling on you, then guess what. I need a refresher. I need to step and I need to just reload and get the love back for this game again. Right, So

let guess what. Let me go home right where it's home, Dallas. Let me go home. Let me get my family situated. Let me make sure that they're stable, make sure that they're happy, because guess what, happy wife, happy life, Right, take the stress off of myself in terms of being the man and having to always have to put out and have to figure out a way, and all the media is always gonna be on me. Now I get to sit back being a great organization to established organization.

I get to be on the high life. And in terms of you know, once I leave here, I get to walk into another situation because this is the media capital, right in terms of football, and guess what I could just chill, right, and then next year I can go out and I'm a new guy again, under a new contract, a new situation, and I could just reload and I can refresh. So I think that's what this is for him. It's absolutely need to trust me. I have been I was there in my career. I actually walked away from

the NFL because I had gotten to that point. It's just it wasn't worth it anymore, right, And I'm pretty sure he's right on that edge, and he's like, man, this is a perfect situation where I could just go and I could chill for a year and then come back ready to go. Man, read rifle under stress. I don't know about that, Isaiah. I mean, look, man, you know there's no better place to be and then a quarterback in the NFL, And I mean, look, I'm just I'm joking with that. Man. I just don't think that.

You know, at the end of the day, maybe it had something to do with happy wife, happy life. I think it has more to do with the fact that, look, man, I'm coming to a point in my career where I'm having to reassess and look at things differently. In Dallas, is the place to be. It's a perfect opportunity for him. And you're right. I mean, once the story is told that he could have gone to New New England, maybe Pittsburgh,

some other places to be a backup quarterback. You know, this is the This is the perfect scenario for a guy like him. And look, man, if you just calmed the league and look at guys that have have been started quarterbacks that then went to be you know, career backups. You know, there are a ton of guys that have been backups that one that went on to be head coaches. Maybe those are his aspirations and this is the perfect incubator for that kind of desire. Look, I just look

at it like this. Andy Dalton is a guy that has the capacity to win games still and he chose to come to a team where he knows that, look, they already have their lead dog. I can help this situation. I see that being the move. And if that had anything to do with the work stress that he was under in Cincinnati, then so bid. I mean, but I look at the first five years of his career, the kid, I mean, the guy that it was a winner, you know, going to the playoffs, he and aj Green and the

host of other guys with them as well. But over the last four years, I mean, that team has been decimated by injuries and just the front office problems in coaching. You know, it has been a problem in Cincinnati, and so yeah, man, maybe that's the thing that at the end of the day, he was like, look, I'm sick

of all of this. The new coaching situation, us being in the lottery getting the first pick in the draft had a lot to do with him on his watch as well, Kyle, I appreciate you playing devil's advocate in this situation, but look, man, all things being equal, we got a pretty good guy, a pretty good backup for Dak Prescott. He did. And the thing is is he had opportunities early in his career to win football games.

He's been in the Cincinnati organization for nine seasons. He made five playoffs, and toward the end things kind of trickled away in that Pitter pattered down the stretch. But don't get us wrong, or don't get me wrong in playing devil's advocate, this is a good quarterback. This is a guy who's going to be a starter at some point. And the fact that the Cowboys got him on a relatively low money deal and the fact that it's a low risk, higher reward situation and you can add to

a twenty six year old quarterback. I think it's a fantastic signing. Whether or not it's Andy Dalton or Cam Newton or anybody else like that, I don't. I think Andy Dalton's a better quarterback than Cam Newton. But that's a separate situation altogether. But I will say going forward, we're going to talk about the fact that there's a new member of the eighty eight club and there's an expectation around Cede Lamb. Is it too high going into

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staying socially distant. Kyle Yeoman's hack, Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips and our Super Bowl champion Isaiah stand back and guys, I have to apologize and I need to turn things around really quickly and throw the brakes on something I said before I went into my teas. I was trying to go into my teas, but I left out a couple of very crucial words. I said, Andy Dalton's a

better quarterback than Cam Newton. I meant to say better quarterback for this situation than Cam Newton, because I think with Cam Newton's on the field and he's healthy, I think he's a better quarterback. Andy Dalton's healthy more, but I still think Cam's better. But I just wanted to clear that up. I know Hecke was about to just lose his mind going into that last segment because of what I had said, and I did say the wrong thing, but I meant to say, better quarterback for this situation

is that better? Heck? Look, I was gonna let you make it with a Kyle. I really was, man, I was gonna let it go. Well, I appreciate you correcting it. Well, I'm glad that. I'm glad that I was able to clear that up at least coming out of this next segment. Now, I did want to kind of go into this conversation

of a new eighty eight in town. Cedee Lamb of course selected seventeenth overall buy the Cowboys a couple weeks ago during the twenty twenty NFL Draft, and the expectations are there, guys, the fact that he's the best receiver potentially in the twenty twenty draft. But I kind of wanted to add maybe a question mark here. You're adding the number eighty eight, and I know it's just a jersey number. I know it's a whole big lore. It's

gonna sell some extra jerseys. But the fact that you're putting that number on a rookie I just kind of want to get your conversation piece here in ISA. You're the only one that's had a number in the NFL. Is there anything to it? The fact that there's an eighty eight lure of guys like Dash, Brian Drew, Pearson, Michael Irvin that have worn that jersey before you and

carried on a legacy. Chrismut Mike, I'm probably the wrong person to ask this question too, because I have never been attached to numbers, right, I've always been the guy who like, never number. You know, I will make my you know, make of it whatever I can based upon my performance. Right. So the fact that the that the owner of the organization that you just got drafted to is saying, hey, you're wearing this jersey, right, I know you want, but you're wearing Uncle Drew's number, You're wearing

Michael Irman's number, You're wearing Desert's number. This is what you're doing. Um, I think that there is some pressure that that's applied to that, right, and there's pressure that he's not applying to himself as pressure that literally that Jerry is throwing on his shoulders before he can even show up in town. So he is going to have to perform based upon Jerry's expectations, right, not only his expectations as a first round pick, but his expectations of

what that number symbolizes for this organization. So there is wait, let's not, let's let's not you know, a kid ourselves. There's this weight that comes with that. But I don't want him to apply that that pressure to himself. I hope that he can just come out here, ball out like he like he knows how to do, play free. But there's going to be that population, including the person who writes his checks, that are expecting that that type

of performance that comes with that number. And Isaiah real quickly kind of based off of what you were saying, you're talking about the owner's expectations, and you're talking about the expectation of wearing eighty eight. What are those expectations? And that's kind of where I'm leaving this question because eighty eight. I mean I mentioned the three names already. It's it's either Hall of Fame or Hall of Fame caliber for a good amount of time type of production here.

Is that The expectation that's put on him from Jerry Jones? Absolutely? Wow? Absolutely. I mean it sucks for him, right, it sucks for him. But you know, like I said, hopefully he's just come in and just not even think about it. He's gonna continually get reminded about it. But he really needs to just come in and play free. That is expectations. I mean, let's not kid ourselves in an eighty eight Bears way. You know, Uncle Drew was a beast. You know, Mike

was a beast. Dez was a beast. Unfortunately, you know, his career kind of got cut short, but you know he was on that on that path as well. And you know, I think that CD will come in and take care of business. It's not fair to put that kind of pressure on somebody. I think that probably Dallas is probably one of the few spots in the entire league where there are a number has that much significance at a particular position. So you know, he's got to

deal with it. But he'll be all right. Yeah, there's some numbers in this franchise that just don't get reused. I mean, eighty eight's not one of them. Eight seems to be one of them. Twenty two seems to be one of them. I'm with Isaiah. I mean, when you get eighty eight here though, it's my Michael Irvin, because Michael Irvin's is talking about it in the media now this week talking about what it means. So immediately there's it restores the tradition and the memories and what that

number has been associated with. Drew Pearson as well does Bryant. I will say that coming into this situation, he doesn't have to be the savior of this offense. He doesn't even have to be the top two wide receivers, you know, the top the top guy is making twenty million bucks a year. He just needs to come in and that's a MARII Cooper CD just needs to come in and fill his role. And I think based on the talent of this offense, I think that eases some of the pressure.

Even though clearly eighty eight it's always linked to greatness. Basically, yeah, man, I mean for me and my generation, man, eighty eight is is all Michael Irvin. You know, everybody knows Drew Pearson before Mike has set the standard for eighty eight. But man, you know it's you talk about the pressure, right, You talk about the pressure and the number, and the Cowboys have had those numbers that no one will wear. Twelve twenty two other numbers that we know are legendary numbers.

But eighty eight is synonymous with greatness at the wide receiver position, just like fifty four. I mean, that's right. I mean all of these numbers are reminiscent. And if you look through the halls of the Dallas Cowboys, these numbers mean something if you look at other teams. Seventy five means something in Pittsburgh, right, And so we talk about the pressure that Cede Lamb may be under, but the truth of the matter is, you know, look, he was gonna be under pressure whether he wore ten or

whatever number he will wore. And so, well, like the saying goes pressure bus pipes or makes diamonds guys, exhibit eight, we got a diamond right here, and so this should be nothing for CD Lamb. He walks into a situation Taylor made for a young guy where there's already dogs there to help him and groom that talent. All he has to come in and do is playball, and I mean he's gonna look beautiful in those two eights on

his back. You know what I didn't realize, Heck, was that I think twelve guys have worn the number, like Jackie Harris wore the number in two thousand or eighty eight, Antonio Bryant when he got drafted, and I think two thousand two, yeah, Antonio Bryant. Yeah, but yeah, there's only three guys you ever associated with, and for good reason. Right of course, Now it does kind of help. And

you mentioned this a little bit earlier. I think both Isaiah and Heck touched on the oh and well where I touched on it too, So all three of you. But the fact that you don't have to come in and be the star, even though that number is associated with being a star, that's not the expectation year one. It might be year three, four five, potentially, but year one, you're coming into an offense that has Michael Gallup Anamari

Cooper and you're able to open things up. How we haven't seen an NFL season that has had an individual team that's had three separate one thousand yard receivers since I believe two thousand and eight when the Cardinals did it. Is there an opportunity the Cowboys even have a chance to reach that kind of mark where we have three separate thousand yard receivers and then also have touches for your running back and Ezekiel Elliott and also maybe even

some receptions for Blake Jarwin. Absolutely, I mean the NFL is wide open now. This is a passing league, and so it's about time that we see that three thousand yard receivers on the same same team and also a potential Hall of Fame running back. I'm putting that pressure on Ezekiel Elliott, but guys, that's the kind of team that we have, and that's how fast we're gonna play.

If you look at Mike McCarthy and what he did in his tenure at Green Bay, he liked to pay, he liked to play up tempo pace and passing the ball around. So I see the same thing being added here at the Dallas Cowboys with how we're going to play timing pace in the passing game. So that's foreseeable for three receivers to have a thousand yards. I don't know. Heck, I don't know. I know, I know, I know you've

been over there playing Madden. You know what I'm saying. Yes, normally ride with you, but I can't ride with you on this one. Man. At three thousand yards receivers is crazy. Right, It's a lot. It is a lot in Isaiah, let me Isaiah, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, Isaiah. Last year, how many yards did Cobb have? I think cob finished with eight hundred yards eight hundred, uh combined for this for the season. I mean that's I mean he was one hundred and sixty away from

being a thousand yard receivers. So look that's the same. I mean, you take out some of those drops, he's there. Uh. And so we might have had that last year if you just look at the numbers from galloping Cooper. So I'm just saying, you know, it's not like I'm far man, I feel you. However, there's there's more weapons this year significantly when there was last year. Just just straight up off off the draft alone, right, you have absolutely just

you have two. You gotta you got a dog at running back, right, you have a tight end that you think has some gold juice. Right, you got Coop who you paying him? You're paying him over a million dollars a game. He gonna get the rock every game. Right, you're gonna force him the ball. He's getting force fed. He can be as quiet as he wants to. He's gonna get the ball at least ten seven to ten attempts a game. Right, and then you got CD that's

gonna be on the inside. You gotta gallop. On the other side, you have five guys that you have to spread the ball out to. Right, if you really want to say, you could take away You're tight end and you could take away Gallop. Right, there's still three guys that you're going to be forced feeding the ball to. It is gonna be hard for those guys all to get get up the proper amount of touches while still maintain the main goal, which is what move the ball.

Modistick get touched in. Yes, right, it's not going to be focused on one guy getting the ball. It's gonna be spread out. Whoever's open gets to rock. Hopefully that's the way it is. And I just it's gonna be hard to for guys to eat like that. So what you're what you're piping for and is that everybody can perform well. You don't need anybody to perform great. You don't need it, right, You just need everybody to perform well.

And that's the that's the positive side about taking having all his talent on one team and being able to take down that pressure by position. He also head got well, heck just got me rethinking that that hypothetical right there when I looked it up. Randald cop did have eight hundred and twenty eight yards last year. Yeah, that was

that's that was approaching a thousand. But but I'm with Isaiah that that seems that seems tough to accomplish, especially if Zeke is going to be heavily involved, like Mike McCarthy says he still will be. And and remember, you know, this defense has made some some good additions and they're they're trying to revamp things. But you may want to lean on your running game to try to protach the

defense in some games this year. So the more you do that, the less opportunities you've got to really spread it around. Even though there's no question they've got the potential to be a wide open passing offense, and while we're throwing in last season as the comparative season of trying to get three thousand yard receivers, I don't know if you want that to be fair. And kind of going back to Rob's point, you want your running back

to have touches. You don't want to be eight and eight and behind in games to the fact that you're trying to throw the football late and get these guys open. Sure, they're going to be open because they're three stud wide receivers and they're going to find their way open. They're going to have their fair share of production, but you don't necessarily want all three of those guys just getting the ball thrown to them as much as they had. Dak had a forty nine hundred yard passing Yeah, forty

nine hundred yard passing season last year. The fact that you even had that was because you were behind Layton games. You were throwing the ball when you didn't really want to. I'm not saying that the running game is the prime or focus here, but it's a focus that's gonna help you win football games and help you close out games late instead of throwing the football, and it's gonna help you move the sticks and like Rob said, help your defense at the same time, and it's still a defense

that has some holes. It does sound wow. Now I thought you were the vice president of Team forty Burger. What happened to you? Bro? I was I wasn't necessarily on Team forty get Burger unless Cede Lamb was involved. That was the thing is, I just didn't believe Ceedee Lamb was going to fall to seventeen. So I took myself out of Team forty Burger. I'm running a half

marathon because of it. In a couple so, the fact that I was even a part of Team forty Burger was solely based on the falling of Cede Lamb to seventeen. So even with that being said, you gotta you gotta have the balance between the two. You have a ninety million dollar running back in the backfield and Tony Pollard, who I think is an underdog in this statement as well.

I think Tony Pollard's gonna have a great year in terms of coming out of the backfield, opening things up for an offense that's gonna see more of a modern look. So I think with the combination of Zeke and Pollard in the backfield along with these wide receivers is more exciting than let's just throw the ball everywhere. Yeah. Now, I'll just say you're absolutely right. I mean, but I want everybody to remember that the whole intention of the offense is to move the sticks right consumer time, move

the sticks right. And that's the premise, right, It's not about having these receivers that go off and have you know, these two yard twohundred yard games. You don't need it, right, Is it nice to talk about? Yeah, it gives us a lot of material to come out here to talk about, but you don't need it if you have guys and where you're where you got three receivers that all had you know, five six catches, you know, seventy five yards, eighty yards. You know, that's that's awesome because that means

that Zeke has about two touchdowns. Tell, you know, telling the thing back there, Dak might have it. So it's so you want to well balanced offense, and you want an offense that has threats at every position that you can't key in on guys, you can't double team guys. You want it to that defenses can't win. And that's really what you're aiming for and I think that's when McCarthy has done, along with Will and arrest of the squad. So hats off to them. I don't think we need

one thousand yard receiver. Can we get it? Heck, yes we could. If we really want to have a thousand yard receiver, we can have one. Um you know, if we should have one with somebody getting paid over million dollars a game. So yeah, we could have it. But but it's not necessary with this particular offense. Isaiah, Isaiah, you, like I said, Man, if you look around at the NFL right now and you look at the way these

defensive schemes are. Our dbs are playing off of receivers. Man, when you were here the Cowboys, that guys were playing you that far off the ball, Man, you still be playing, Isaiah. So I mean, you look, that's just that's the way the NFL is going these days. And so I mean it's it's fast. It's a fast place in Yes, Kyle, you make a great point. Dak Prescott forty nine hundred yards, you know, throwing on the year, you don't want that.

If you look at those numbers universally all over the league, that typically is in an indicator that you had a bad season, you were playing from behind. But that may not be the case anymore in this new NFL. We win one game, and I know if if we win the game in Philly, that same offense goes into the playoffs, and then what are we saying is that the new

model for success in the NFL. I don't know. It's just hard to throw that away, especially as quick as we're gonna be able to strike at all three wide receiver positions and also with our running back man. Look, I'm the person I love the three yards in a cloud of dust philosophy, but I do understand things have changed and offenses are wide open now to get the ball out of your hand, get the ball at the quarterback's hands early, and they are striking. I mean, you

look at Kansas City's offense. They are seventy There are seventy five yard play waiting to happen. Everybody is emulating that. And so look, that's what get the people in the season, that's what the fans are clamoring for, and that's what we're gonna give them. That's fair. But you know what we talked about on past shows is with the weapons they have in the passing game and the ability to

spread them out. That should help Zeke. That should create running lanes for him and allow him to basically create that pick your poison offense, like I think based on having those guys on the outside in the slot, you can be more balanced instead of instead of being just one particular way. I think. I think it actually helps the overall offense. But it is fun to think about. I didn't know that O eight was the last time where the Cardinals were last team to do it. That's cool,

that's cool. That is Madden numbers right there. There's no doubt about it. It's bad numbers. And you gotta have the combination. You gotta have the balance between the three yards in a cloud of dust like just said, and the lightning in a bottle, the quick strik ability, and I think the Cowboys have the opportunity to do both. But if you're gonna have a good offense, you need a good defense as well. The Cowboys have continued to add some of that defensive talent over the course of

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I'm Kyle Yeoman's and I mentioned this going into the last break, guys, but the Cowboys continuing to add talent on defense, and before we get into the fact that I don't think they're done adding talent just yet, I want to talk about Darryl Worley, Corner third round pick back in twenty sixteen, A relatively young corner but with starting experience. Forty nine of his fifty six games played have been starts five interceptions over four seasons in the NFL.

He has been added to this defense and rob it kind of adds to the shift that we're starting to see in this secondary for the Cowboys and Mike Nolan just wanting these longer athletic corners to go along with guys like Trey von Day as well. First off, a happy early birthday to you based on your early live read that you just said. Yes, Kyle Geoman's appreciated tomorrow.

Um uh to your point talking about DBS. We got off the show last Tuesday and Will McClay, VP of Player Personnel, did a call with the media and talked about that very point. And this is kind of the Heckman's point last segment, with the way offenses are now spreading out, getting bigger, faster receivers. Um, they want guys that can play press coverage, especially with what they want to try to do defensively, guys that can disrupt receivers

at the line of scrimmage. They felt like the runs on corners kind of went a little differently than normal, uh in this in this particular draft, and they were able to get Digs and Robinson maybe later than than they should have gone. And and so then you add Worley, a guy that's six one, two fifteen. He just continues that philosophy. He's he's a press guy. He can he's

a physical corner. And I thought it was interesting that he played safety for the Raiders for a couple a couple of games at the end of the last season, just because they needed they I think they cut d J. Sweringer and they needed a guy to step in there. So once again it's another guy they can come in and play multiple spots for you on defense. You know what, boy, rob I just want to choke you sometime when you take my points like that man so effortlessly. But that's

what I think. The same about Worally and his ability. And you talked about the presser for Will McClay, and also before I believe Mike McCarthy was talking about some of these guys, that's some of the picks and some of the guys that we have in the dB room being able to convert to safety. And Worally is that that guy that we got that can be a tweeter or a hybrid corner safety as well, and so I looked for him because of his experience to be added to that already a lot of depth in that DV room.

But he's a guy that is going to be able to benefit these younger guys, be a benefit to these younger guys, but also make a contribution no matter where you put him. And again for us and what I've been, you know, just clamoring over is the fact that we need a special team's dog. We need more guys that can come in and contribute because that's where we suffered. I see Worldly as being a guy that can contribute there as well. But no matter what, you know, he's

that hybrid guy that can play safety and in corner. Heck, when this is all over, man, I can't wait to get back in studio. You can get your hands on me. I care, man, It's all good, man. I can say right now, I'm gonna keep saying it. I'm gonna keep saying I keep saying it. Our Harris, Harris. This dude is over there river dancing right now. Would you care to would you care to give us an exhibition? Isaiah riverdancing? You believe risk give it to you. But these guys.

They just keep adding the perfect, the perfect, you know, size corners. These guys are. You know, we talked about last week, you know, we talked about guys that our attitude. We talked about guys that had little nanciness to him. This dude is a pest, right, he's six one, two fifteen. I don't know if y'all know this out there. That is a sizeable corner. That's that's not just a tall, skinny corner. That's a corner that has some weight to him.

He's not moving right. And we keep talking about that front seven and how and how solid of a front seven we've been able to put together. If those guys are adding pressure, they're pushing the pocket and you're able to disrupt the receiver at the line of scrimmage, it is going to suck for offenses. Routes have to be so pristine, Routes have to be so on point for

guys that even remotely get open. Because you have a six one dude that has and it has Ijanda hands, that has punched you in your dog on chess at the line of scriptage and not letting you get your timing right. And you have those guys up front. It is the perfect scenario for everybody that's coaching this defense. The Cowboys lize. I know we're talking a lot about offense, We're gonna be talking a lot more about their defense. I unexpect, because these dudes are gonna have they're they're

gonna ask some problems. Isaiah, what did you say he's doing the river dance? Yeah, here's my question, go ahead, nook. My question though, based on that philosophy of those those big corners, like can Jordan Lewis catch a break him here? Yeah? Because he because he didn't fit that role. He's five tens whatever he is, and and like Isaiah said, like he's got he's got some dogging and that guy's a competitor back there. But I don't know, I don't know what this means for him in terms of his role.

If if that's what they prefer, those bigger, longer corners, well, and you also can go ahead for heck, I was just saying that Jordan Lewis is one of my favorites. I think that he is a he's so tough, you know, he's a tough guys. Unfortunate that he got injured. And but again Anthony Brown stepped in and played really well until he got injured as well. I mean, but this this has given us these guys that are mallers at the line of scrimmage, and that is who Worldly is.

He comes in with that tough North Philly attitude and a guy that comes that also has some things in his background as well, looking to make a fresh start. He was able to get that with the Raiders. But you know again that you're you're right when you talk about Al Harris and the group that he has. I mean, he has a bunch of guys that are salty and

he knows that. And I look forward to this cowboy defense, especially on the back end, just being a bunch of guys that are going to be flying around trying to get those interceptions and take it to the house. And just the size alone, the size alone of our defense where we went from shorter guys up front, maybe smaller guys at the dB position. Just look at how much bigger this team has gotten in a very short period

of time. Well, I think it also, I think it speaks to the switch to what maybe Mike McCarthy and Mike Nolan are thinking, what some of these corners going to the safety spot. And I know Cheeto Eoosia has been thrown into that conversation. I don't know if he would be better, if Jordan Lewis would be better for

a switch there. And I kind of wanted to get you guys's opinion on this, But if they were to take some of these true corners and move them to safety, who would be the best to fit that role just because they don't necessarily fit the role of a longer corner. I think Cheeto's going back there. I'll say it a couple Okay, so I think they're moving Cheetah back there.

I mean they got Cheeto and they gohaha, right, And we talk about how they're not going to have to be true true safeties in terms of being able to come in and roll Tate down and field a box. They're not gonna have to do that. Are our boys up front are going to take care of that? Don't I need people to really recognize how serious of a front seven we have right now? Right? And like I said, even if we get one of those guys right, it

doesn't matter which guy comes off as suspension. If we get one of those guys that front seven is stat right. If we can keep Lee healthy, then that's even more of a problem. Right, But those guys are literally all they need to be as ball hawks. Right, You're gonna put two six one guys out there on the edges to put hands on guy's chest as soon as they come off the line of scrimmage. Every single play, they're gonna have their hands on somebody's chest. So that's half

a second gone, that's that's disrupted their route running. And then you got those guys over the top that have speed, that are long, that are arrange you, that can go sideline to sideline just in case the ball gets thrown up there. So these guys aren't gonna have to come up here and laid a big stick. They don't have to knock nobody out. You don't need Earl Thomas, you don't need a cam Chancellor. You need these guys that can run around and snag these balls that are gonna

be thrown up there. Because of this front, Seven's pushing the pocket and quarterbacks are gonna be making these indecisive throws. And I think that Jordan Lewis is gonna have a bit of a role still in that defense. I mean the fact that he's better in the slot, and I mean that's gonna come up. Look what Philadelphia did with their first overall pick and or their first round pick

Jalen Ragers, receiver from Waxahatchie and TCU. He's gonna have to have some good games or somebody good to cover throughout the course of the rivalry with Philadelphia then also any of the other sixteen games. I think Lewis fits better in the slot. But Isaiah, you kind of went back to the front seven, and I agree. I think the front seven is better this year than it was that last year, and I think they've continued to upgrade

those spots. But I was asked last week on one oh five through the fan and our friends over there. They asked me, what's the biggest hole on this Cowboys team so far? And I didn't really know how to answer to Originally I was thinking either left guard or right defensive end. And the only reason I leaned toward right defensive end is because it's a huge if. Still if Alden Smith and Randy Gregory, either one of those

guys get reinstated, sure it'll help out. I just don't I'm still not totally sold on either one of those guys. One hasn't been in the league for a multitude of years, the other one hasn't necessarily produced as much as you would think for a guy that had his caliber coming out of college. So I bring that question to you, right defensive end, could you still add some spots to there? Because you've already grabbed Bradley and I but is there anybody else that you could go out and potentially grab?

And I'm not necessarily saying a Gadavian Clowney or a Griffin or anybody like that, just something else depth wise, So that right defensive indspot, I think you definitely ask some depth. I mean you never can. Obviously, these guys are focused on adding depth at every position, regardless of the competition. So I think we definitely can ask some more depth there. Do I feel like that's a whole? No, I don't believe that's a whole. I think we're going to get one of those guys off of suspension. I

think we're gonna be perfectly fined up there. I do want to add another linebacker. I want to add another linebacker because you know, obviously Lee like me, has had you know, injury issues. You know, some things you just can't prevent. But we need somebody to fill that position just in case, right, Um, I think that if he's not in there, I think there's going to be a substantial hole there and you need somebody that has has the stature and then has the drive as as Jaylen

Smith and vander As. I think you need some guys like those guys that are going to fulfill that role to be able to run and feel those gaps. But those those some big dudes that are that are moving at a high at a high rate. So I think you can't afford to lose at that position. To office a line I'm not worried about that either. I think we're good there. So yes, we can add another in just for insurance policy, but I prefer to add another

linebacker at this point. I agree. I was thinking linebacker too when you guys were talking, And you know, kind of depends on what the new staff thinks about some of the young guys that are on this roster that we don't maybe know yet, you know, because Luke Gifford's a guy that that flashed before he got hurt last year at linebacker. Uh, maybe maybe they're high on him. Um, what do they feel about Dorance Armstrong and Jalen Jelks You know somebody I was thinking about Jelks, Yeah, Joe Jackson.

Guys they drafted last year. We're not really sure, you know. So those are young players that they thought had promised last year. But it just depends on, you know, if you bring in a new coaching staff and what they think those guys. Yeah, I think a lot of the story is starting to come together on what they think about guys based off of the free agents that they're

bringing in. And so I just believe that when you to your original to your question Kyle about how we feel about, you know, implementing new guys to the deep, right end or offensive line, you know, I believe that those questions are there for the defensive, for the right end position because of what we lost and what's hanging in the balance for guys getting reinstated. So look all things, I just feel as though we are in a position, in a very positive position with Aldon Smith and Randy

Gregory being reinstated and all of those things happening. I believe that you feel comfortable going into the season with the NI Gregory and Smith and fighting it out during two of days. But with the team like this, you can never have enough guys at the linebacker position. I mean, with the way if they're going to play that three four four three hybrid, those are the positions dbs linebackers that you're gonna have to be Trump type on those. And so you see the Cowboys getting all those dbs.

But obviously they're satisfied with the guys that they have at the linebacker position. And also if you're going to make any moves, look, you can be patient with that because they're gonna be a number of guys that I said last week, they're gonna be a number of guys that are gonna be cut. Free agency is gonna ramp back up here in a minute, and you may have an opportunity to get a guy that you may not

necessarily thought would have been that have landed to you. Well, when we talked about it last week, we didn't think the Cowboys were done. We thought they were going to add a couple of guys. They did just that. Darryl Worley was signed a couple hours after we got off the year last Tuesday. And then you turn around and Andy Dalton is now a Dallas Cowboy as well. I

don't think they're done. I think they're still adding and I think we're gonna have maybe somebody to talk about next week at a new Dallas Cowboy heading into next Tuesday. But that's gonna do it for this Tuesday's addition of Talking Cowboys. Have a Cinco de mayo to everybody out there, and hope you're staying safe, staying indoors, and we continue

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