And the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World hours at the Star In and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It's a Friday edition of Talking Cowboys, Week one, Episode four, as we get you ready for the Rams and Cowboys Sunday Night Football just a couple days away as NFL football season is officially underway last night, as the Chiefs took down the Houston
Texans thirty four to twenty on Thursday Night Football. But we've got Cowboys football to talk about, and we're going to dive into that over the next forty five minutes. I'm Kyle Yo alongside the great Cowboys insider, Rob Phillips and the great heck Ma Harrison. As always, no Isaiah stand back today, which is unfortunate because we're only three fourths of what we usually are as a show without
Isaiah in the mix. But hey, we're gonna hold down the fort and we'll see Isaiah again here next week and even this weekend if you're gonna watch pregame live as well. But tons of tons of storylines to get to leading into the weekend. But guys, I want to kind of start on a more serious note, and for
a couple of reasons. First off, really one of the first things I do whenever I intro a show normally is I usually like to say the date, and today is Friday, September eleventh, and that's a date that's gonna ring throughout the memories of Americans for the rest of time because of what happened back in two thousand and
one on this date. Of course, the terrorist attacks in the start of the War on Terrorism in New York as the Twin Towers also on the Pentagon, and the terrorist attacks that were brought out and things that images that will never be forgotten and something that all of us, I know, remember where we were when that moment was happening, no matter where we were in our walk of life
and where we were specifically physically. But guys, I wanted to kind of give you, guys a moment in remembrance of those victims and really what that stood for as a country. And Rob will start with you. I can't believe it's been almost twenty years, Kyle. I mean it just hit me today that it's been nineteen years. I was in college at the time. I like you said, there are certain things that you remember most, and there's
a lot of things that still I can remember. But the things that stick out today still are the coverage that day class is getting canceled on my campus, Peter Jennings on ABC trying to guide us all through it, President Bush's speech at Ground Zero, all of the first responders and their fearlessness and trying to help people. And I also remember George Tea a week later running out through the tunnel onto the football field with the American flag. That that, to me is still just in my memory.
And um, I guess for me, it's just a reminder of so many people need football, you know, to kind of bring it back to our show, and having the season opener last night in the middle of another just just horrific situation in our country. Uh, it's nice to have football back because I think sometimes we need a diversion from some of the problems that we're having in our own lives. Heck, yeah, Kyle, I was. I was living in Puerto Rico at the time in college, and man,
it was it was erie. It was erie being being a student abroad and not being able to get back home to my family, and just the way that life changed in a moment's notice. One of the things that I drew from September eleventh is you know, the first responders, and they're just heroic efforts to try and save people. The one the first responders that ran up those those stairs to try and save people why the building was coming down. That's something that has always stayed with me.
Just being glued to the television, like and in the eerie reminder of just being glued to the television is the same today with the with the pandemic. But the one thing that I will always take from September eleventh is how unite it we all stood after September eleventh, How you know united we stand. We're all Americans and everyone standing together against you know, terrorism, And you know, September eleventh is always going to be My wife and I we were talking about it just nineteen years It
just seems like that time flew. But even in that nineteen years, man, you remember exactly where you were when that first plane hit the build, and then in moments thereafter,
I think we just all were in shock. And yeah, that's Yeah, that's that's really my September eleventh memory, absolutely, and I appreciate you guys sharing that, especially, like Rob said on a football show, this isn't the normal thing that you talk about, but you have to talk about it because it does represent what we are as Americans in that unity and everything that that's involved in the Red, white, and blue, and man, it's a it's a terrible memory,
but it's a memory nonetheless. And we wanted to take a couple of moments here at the start of the show to remember those victims and remember those first responders who had their lives taken from them, almost three thousand that day throughout New York City, Washington, d C. And in Pennsylvania as well. So we want to remember them. And while we're still kind of on a serious note,
taking a more cowboys look at a serious note. In a storyline that came out yesterday, I don't even want to say, really the name of the reporter, because I know that's kind of where he wants it to be. He wants his name out there. But there were reports
in it. There was a statement made yesterday about Dak Prescott and the fact that he wasn't necessarily doing a good job of hiding his emotions, and Dak Prescott in an interview last week or that or that was actually surfaced this week, rather went through his depression, in his struggle with mental health and really some of the things that he dealt with as an individual and as a human whenever his brother was passed passed away back in April. So guys kind of wanted to take a quick second
to to back Dak Prescott as well. I mean, mental health is no joke. I mean this is something that's it's very serious for thousands, millions of people from a day to day basis. And I know this is something that at least both of you guys, I know, hold dear, both of you mentioned yesterday that this is something we want and need to talk about because of course it being our quarterback in Dak Prescott. But at the same time, this is a serious issue and people need to be
aware of how serious it is. Well, you know, Kyle, I think I want to stay with a trend of not mentioning you know, the person that that the reason why we're talking about this, And look, this is a tough subject, man, and I just want to be clear on the fact that I know it is. One of the things that I want to point to is the fact that Dak Prescott's interview was amazing. Yeah, and it was amazing because he was able to articulate what he's been going through through this pandemic and what it was
like growing up Dak Prescott. The headline stiller is what was mentioned by said reporter that makes this is the reason why we're talking about it. But really, what Dak was talking about was phenomenal. His what he's doing as far as trying to help put the police officers and his charitable donations. His father talked about that. But then what it's like growing up a multiracial man in America.
That's that to me was the most striking thing about that, because what he was talking about is two Americas, the Americas that we're seeing white and black right, and how being a multiracial man and having to deal with not being accepted on both sides and still having to deal with his raw emotions. Man, we've all been dealing with this pandemic and it's you know, Hey, I'm a substitute teacher.
I'm teaching my nine year old, my thirteen year old, and it has had his mental toll on everyone dealing with this, and I feel as though after listening to Dak and him being forthcoming and being honest about his emotions and what he's dealing with, that's something to not be targeted and said that, Hey, this guy should be looked at like he's weak because he's talking in these terms, but more or less, look at the strength that he's
exuded by saying that. Look ideal with something that everybody deals with, and it doesn't matter if you're the CEO of Amazon or you're the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. He was making sure that everyone knows that he is human and he is dealing with all of this the best that he can. And look, I really, if anything, after listening to that interview, man, if I wasn't a Dak Prescott fan before, I'm a bigger Dak Prescott fan today,
I can't say it any better than that. I mean, you know, I'm with you guys like I don't want to talk about the talk show host who said that and had that take, because I know his bit. I've seen his bit for enough years now. He plays opposite man. He wants to have a take that's different than everybody else. Well, this one happened to be way out of line and
just ridiculous. And everything Heckmas said is exactly right. You know, I think as men, I think a lot of times we're brought up to be stoic and tough and don't show our our emotions, and the older you get, you realize that's just not that's not the case. It's okay to be vulnerable, as Dak said yesterday, And it doesn't matter how much money you make. You know, money is not everything people people, We never know what people are dealing with in their hearts day to day, and I
think that's why it's really important. And Dak using his platform is so important, Like you said, heck multiple different matters, social justice, now, mental wellness. Like for that to be said on air yesterday was so irresponsible given what people are dealing with in this country right now on a lot of different levels. We've talked about the pandemic we've got.
There are people dying, there are people sick, they're people isolated from their families, have seen family members die and not being able to be with them because of the virus, and and obviously there's there are social injustice problems in this country. There's a lot of things affecting people in this country, and it's important to have that message out there that it's okay to be hurting right now, you know.
And I know my family has had a lot of problems this year personally, and other people have too, And to have Dak say that that really struck me. You know that he can that his message carries a lot of weight, and for him to say that, I think can really help people. I applauded for it. I think it was something that needed to be said, especially with
somebody who does have the platform that he does. And both of you guys very well said on each of your parts, and I think he said it well himself, saying and I'm going to quote from his interview with Graham ben sing or excuse me, but he said it showed me how vulnerable we have to be as humans, how open we have to be because of our adversity,
our struggles, what we go through. It's always going to be too much for ourselves and maybe too much for even one or two people, but it's never too much for a community, or never too much for the people in the family that you love, so we have to share those things. And I think that's very well said. It's it's absolutely a problem. And we're gonna take a break here in just a couple of moments and then
we'll talk football, I promise. But as we go into this break, I wanted to mention that yesterday was national world it was World Suicide Prevention Day, and I wanted to leave this number out there just for those who
may need some help. If you're happening to listen to this podcast and you have been struggling with a depression or with a loss and you need somebody to talk to, reach out to those around you, absolutely, because it is a community that is needed in order to face these issues together, whether it's a mental health issue or even what we've been dealing with as a society with the COVID nine team pandemic and every issue that's going on in our world right now. But I mean, reach out
to us. If you don't have anybody to reach out to, My dms are open, reach out to me. I have no issue talking to anybody about these types of issues, and it's something that is needed to be done. So I wanted to throw that out there as well. But I want to throw this number out there. It's the National Suicide Prevention Hotline one eight hundred two seven three eight two five five. That's how we'll head into break. We'll be back with football talk here on Talking Cowboys
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upcoming Sunday between the Cowboys and the Rams. Appreciate you sticking through what was a very heavy first segment, but it was a couple of topics that we absolutely wanted to hit on and share our opinions on because we do back both of those different causes, both remembrance of nine to eleven and never forgetting that, and then also backing Dak Prescott with the comments that were made yesterday. But we've got some breaking news to go into here
on talking Cowboys as well. Just a couple of moments before we went on air, there was breaking news from Tom Pallisero of NFL Network saying that the Cowboys have signed a one year voidable extension, meaning fifteen million dollars of the base salary of one DeMarcus Lawrence has been converted into a signing bonus, which frees up twelve million dollars of cap space this year by making such moves. So we've got some movement whenever it comes to the
Cowboys and it comes to this roster. We thought, of course, last week we saw Zach Martin have a deal restructured, we saw some other cap space mingling in there. But Rob, what does this mean, whenever it comes to DeMarcus Lawrence getting an extension that's voidable and assigning bonus and freeing up all this money, it's really the same thing. I think that we saw the same purpose that we saw
with tyre In and with Zach recently. Just creating some more space, yes for this year, but you know, an any unused money can carry over to twenty twenty one. I think that's really what they're eyeing. And they've done this in the past, you know, they with franchise Cornerstone players. I think they've done it with Tony Romo's contract in the past, some other top guys. You know, you can you can convert some of that base salary to signing bonus money and then basically carry it over and free
up some space. So that's what they're doing, and we all know the cap is very uncertain next year. We also know there's a possibility that Dak Prescott will have to get franchised again, at least maybe in the interim to create space for what would be a thirty eight million dollar cap figure. So that's that's I think primarily what they're looking at here. Heckma, do you agree, because I know there are a lot of fans out there that might be saying there's there's a free agent that's
on the market. At the moment, I would tend to side with Rob whenever it comes to this is a future move to keep your quarterback. But I know how you and Isaiah had been talking, and I wish Isaiah'd be on because he would say, Earl Thomas, he would say it immediately, but heck, what do you think about this this move? Well, I you know, I'm siding with Rob on this because I feel as though it's something that's going to free up that cap space to get
Dak signed. At least that's what I'm hoping, and I'm hoping that Dak didn't. We don't have to go through this for another offseason with Dak in the franchise tech. I mean, got that made for a lot of interesting banswer,
but let's get it done. I think that with COVID nineteen, the uniqueness of COVID nineteen, and just with so many things being up in the air on what the cap is going to be next year, I just feel like from an accounting standpoint, the Cowboys are just being very smart smart to make sure that they're not over their cap space next year. Yeah. Hey, if Isaiah we're here right now, I don't think he would have let either
of us finish. He couldn't even finish our points. Would I would have I would have directed that question to Rob and Isaiah would have answered it. That's how it would have worked out if he was there, because he would be thinking. And I know there are a lot of listeners right now that are saying, oh my gosh, we freed up twelve million dollars of cap space. That means Earl Thomas is coming right. It's not necessarily going to work like that. I really don't think it will.
If it does, it does, and hey, we've got a Pro Bowl safety back there, and that would be interesting and something that I know, I think all three of us would welcome from a football perspective. I just don't know if it's going to happen from a business perspective and from a locker room standpoint and things like that moving into the season. But you look at really the situation that Mike McCarthy has coming up in here in Week one, there's still a lot of question marks around
his quarterback and the storylines that surfaced yesterday. Of course, Earl Thomas is still looming in the storylines. There's all these restructurings from the front office. But there's a chance to just get down to football this weekend. And I think that's what he's excited about, as he talked about yesterday in his press conference. He's just ready to get back out there. He's ready to go up against a
coach like Sean McVay on the other sideline. And that's kind of where I want to go with this segment, is talking about this coaching matchup. Mike McCarthy has a Super Bowl, Sean McVay has an AP Coach of the Year, something that Mike McCarthy does not have in his tenure. This is not necessarily an easy matchup for McCarthy, even though Sean mcvay' is also coming off a pretty disappointing season. Heckma, what do you think about the coaching matchup and really
too different style of gurus going at it Sunday night? Yeah, well, I think that I'm a homer, but I gotta say this, I just feel as though McCarthy and his experience kind of you have to move the needle towards him because of that experience, but at the same time, both of these guys are from those families or schools of thought as far as offensive gurus are concerned. I thought it.
I found it very funny too well, just fascinating that McCarthy talked about looking at Sean mcvay's offense and admiring it from afar with him having an opportunity in with being fired by Green Bay to just look at different coaches, and just his admiration for Sean McVay and the multiple schemes and tempos and formations that he runs some of his plays out of. And so I found that to be one of the things that I think it's going
to give coach Mike McCarthy a leg up. And by the way, I think it should be noted that he has three coaches that were on the staff or for Los Angeles as well, so he's had a really good opportunity to dissect some of the things that Sean McVay likes to do out in La Man McCarthy didn't have the Coach of the Year when they win fifteen and one in Green Bay that year. That's now, yeah, at least that's what I saw from from my research, I
might have missed it, but I really don't think so. Wow. Well, yeah, I think he's been an underrated coach throughout his time in Green Bay because I think, you know, people see Aaron Rodgers and think, you know, he's he's the face. But to Heckma's point, creativity jumps out of me first
when you talk about both coaches. I think what Sean McVay has done the last two three years in terms of some of his offensive mindset formations, different pre snap looks, I think it's been adopted around the league that you're seeing it more and more around the league. But I think both coaches recognize you have to adapt, you know. You know, the Rams had a tough tough year last year offensively after what they did a couple of years
ago in the Super Bowl run. And you know, and Sean McVay admitted, you know, we didn't use Todd Gurley enough last year. So I think that's something he's got to he's probably looking at. And the best coaches find the best ways to use what personnel they have. So it's going to be interesting to see what the rams
real strengths are this year. And you know, with the changes that they've made on the roster that we talked about the last couple of days and Mike McCarthy, like Heck said, he has spent a year off basically coaching himself and evaluating himself on what things did I not do well enough maybe my last couple of years in Green Bay. And the thing I like the most that he said recently was I'm trying to empower my coaches.
Kellen Moore is the offensive coordinator, other coaches on staff to you know, empower these guys to take control of their positions and their play calling and uh and obviously use his influence as well. I think his time off the analytics stuff he's looked at that, I think it's it's made him a better coach and we're about to all find out here in a couple of days. We are going to find out. And it's a change for both sides because you look at Mike McCarthy and what
he's done over the past year. Now with a new franchise, Sean McVeigh has a trio of new coordinators, basically an entirely new staff underneath him and a new identity. We talked about it and Rob you alluded to it just a moment ago about the new identity of this Rams team. Last year, they abandoned the run. They went to the past. It was Jared Goff versus the world whenever it came to slinging the football around a little bit, and it's one of the reasons why they ended up as a
top five passing offense in the NFL. But heckm whenever you look at the options that Sean McVeigh has in the creativity that he has as a coach, are you expecting straightforward passing attack, let's throw the football around or is there something up as sleeve a little bit come Sunday. No, I think there's no mystery with Sean McVeigh. I mean, he does a lot of different things from a multiple sets. I love it. You know, he does the bunch sets
with the tight ends. He even goes four receivers down on the goal line, So there's I mean, he has no shame about what he wants to do. And that's get you your vertical. In the passing game, we're gonna see a lot of five dvs. It's just Nickel and don packages for everyone. And we talked about it a little bit yesterday as far as touching on what the tight ends do and that offense, and that's what I think it's going to be very interesting as far as matchups in this game is how we can adjust to
what they do with their tight ends. I mean, they have tight end screens. Anytime Jared Goff is bootlegging, he gets out of space and always will find Higbee are ever it. But I think that's the challenge that the Cowboys has is those multiple sets and some of the things that like Rob alluded to, the pre snap stuff. They come out, they go with a hard count, you know, quick count things like that. They're always keeping the defense on their toes. So Mike Nolan has his hands full
and he has to prepare for everything for this Rams offense. Yeah, the tight end matchups really interesting because it makes it remind finds me of what Mike and Mike Nolan have said this offseason and in camp, where it's about matchups in the secondary. It's not so much Okay, you play corner, you play safety. You got to be able to adjust. And they've got versatile dbs that are physically able to match up with tight ends and cover as well. You know,
I think Daryl Worley comes to mind, branding car. I don't know if he's going to be called up for this game. You know, he didn't have a training camp, but he's a guy in your mind where he's a big enough corner, a dB that can match up with tight ends and carry them down the field. So the Cowboys, I think are trying to build their defense that way to handle some of the versatile looks that you're going
to see from from other offenses. And I think that's that's what Mike Nolan's whole stick is, is the fact that he's able to throw those multiple defenses out there and provide different looks to keep an offense off guard. And one of the reasons why this team has been so secretive throughout the course of the off season and training camp, and hopefully it pays off. But I've got a stat, guys that I want to throw out here. I've got a stat. It might make it nervous a
little bit. How about this. I've got two Actually these are two separate stats. First, one is that mister Sean McVay, that coach on the other side, who's who was hired as the youngest NFL head coach in history is a whopping three and zero as a head coach and season openers. And in those season openers, he's averaged over thirty six points per game and outscored his appointed opponents one o nine forty nine. So they've outscored him by a more than half a century of points. And they've just been
absolutely dominant in season openers. And on the other side, how about this second stat. Mike McCarthy in his first game as the Packers head coach, so his first game with a new franchise and a season opener on the road. It was against Chicago back in two thousand and six, twenty six to nothing loss, and he gave up four field goals and an eighty four yard punt returned touch down to none other than Devin Hester of the Chicago Bears.
And that's how the Packers there, That's how the Packers ten Yeah, well it is Devin Hester, but that's how the Packers tenure for Mike McCarthy started. Does that make you nervous on both of those stats, rob moving into Sunday's game just because of the similarities or the I guess the polar opposites of the two coaches. Are you saying the Cowboys are gonna go to LA and could be fifty No, no, way through our predictions, way to our predictions. But no, I'm not saying fifty to nothing.
That's not what I'm saying. But I am throwing out these stats to see if it'll make me nervous. I mean, I think you have to respect Sean McVeigh and that to me, that really speaks to a young coach that gets his team prepared to play. But every year is different, every team's different. Um. I don't think you can look back at what happened when Green Bay and say it's gonna affect this team. I do expect a high scoring game one because we don't neither team knows what the
other team's gonna do. And there's no crowd noise, there's no there's nothing, there's nothing to impact Dak Prescott in the offensive line at the line of scrimmage, and so I think we're gonna see a lot of points. Um, But no, I don't really. I'm not nervous, Kyle. I'm not nervous at all. Heck no, I'm not either, Yll And yeah, it's the first times out for everything, right,
it is coming. It is coming this Sunday. My belief about and I think we're talking about the Sean McVeigh and McCarthy matchup, but I don't think enough has been made about the Dak Prescott Jared Goff matchup as well. Think about where these both of these quarterbacks are same class. One guy is fighting to get that contract that solidifies and validates him as a top tier quarterback. In another one, it's just kind of easy, breezy, nonchalantly just going about
his business in making about thirty two thirty three million dollars. Look, here's the thing. When it comes down the golf. I know he gets really antsy and jumpy when defenses are putting pressure on him, right, and I believe that with the with the defense that we have, that's the number one thing that we like. You said, Nolan Stick, Let's make this guy uncomfortable the whole game. Let's come after him. We know what he likes to do. He wants to get out and get the ball out of his hands quickly.
That's their success. They run this West Coast offense just the same that we're looking at here in Dallas, with a little bit of Kellen Moore mixed in with that, but at the same time, we're gonna play fast, but defensively, it's gonna be our responsibility to move Golf out of that pocket and make him uncomfortable. I totally agree. It's this game is gonna come down to who controls the
line of scrimmage on both sides. And I cannot wait to see what Tristan Hill does in the middle of that Cowboy's defensive line because he had an encouraging camp and he's matching up against Blythe and that that interior Rams offensive line, which some people think is is maybe a weak spot. We'll find out this season. But how good can this defensive line, defensive front for the Cowboys
be because they showed flashes. I know it's non tackling practice, but they showed flashes in camp of wow, like the talent level, the versatility. They have a chance to be really, really good. So they can they disrupt golf Hex exactly
right to me, that's the key of the game. I just want to I want to mention when's, first off, how crazy things can change so quickly, because what Rob just said, we're going into week one of twenty twenty after the twenty nineteen that Tristan Hill said, alarms went off in my head whenever you said I'm excited to see what Triston Hill has in store for this offensive line and for this game on Sunday, alarms went off because that's originally you're like, what are you talking about?
But that's how good his camp was, and that's how good his offseason was. Even without a full NFL OTA written offseason, he was still able to come into camp and look noticeably better at the moment earn a starting spot, according to Stephen Jones in the Cowboys depth chart that they put out, earn a starting spot for Tristan Hill. So yeah, I think it does come down to the trenches. It's what it came down to. In Week fifteen of last season. The Cowboys dominated the trenches and they ended
up winning that game forty four to twenty one. But when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, we got a chance to look at the defending Super Bowl champions in the Kansas City Chiefs last night or they headed back to the Super Bowl, and will the Cowboys be with them? We give you our twenty twenty predictions when we come back onto Talking Cowboys. I'm Jay Novachik, former tight end for the Dallas Cowboys. Back in the day, I was the guy who always got the tough yards,
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Rams and the Dallas Cowboys. So you're not done with us just yet this weekend in terms of content on Dallas Cowboys dot com. But guys, we've got some predictions to get to. It's the final show before a really NFL season kicks off. It kicked off last night with the thirty four twenty Chiefs win over the Texans, but the NFL weekend is still very much so ahead of us, and we've got a full Sunday slate coming up in a couple of days. But man, I was going through
these last night. I've got every prediction from all of you guys. I've got the predictions for each division winner, super Bowl matchup, and Super Bowl champion, and then we'll predict Sunday's game at the end. But I wanted to start with you Heckup, just because I really have no idea where you're going with this. I think I've maybe got a feel of where Rob could go, but I don't know anything about where Heck was at in terms of these predictions. So give us your AFC Division Champions
East to South all the way through. Let's go Oh God, all right, East East, I'm going AFCAST, I'm going Buffalo. Okay, AFC North, I'm going Baltimore, AFC South. Oh God help me Rob here, I'm trying to make a list right now myself. Uh yeah, Houston last night. Yeah, it's last night without without Grit, without Hopkins. I'm just yeah, like they look real average to me right now. So I'm gonna go Houston. I'll go Houston on that one. Uh And obviously Kansas City, come on now, Okay, yeah, that
was pretty easy, Rob. What you got for the AFC. I'm gonna go Buffalo. I'm going chalk from last year. I think I'm going Buffalo, Baltimore, Tennessee, and Kansas City Baltimore. You said, what was the third or who was the loved in the South Tennessee Tennessee? Okay, Kansas City, Tennessee. All right, I'm keeping up with these. By the way, for all of those keeping track at home, I am also keeping tracks so that way we can come back the end of the season and look through this. Uh. Okay,
So I'm who you got. I'll go with the Bills, the Chiefs, the Ravens, And this is where I switch it up. I think the Colts win the AFC South, and I think they're a better team than a lot of people give up. So I think the Colts. That's pretty good. Yeah, so I think the Colts win the AFC South. Isaiah's picks were the Bills, the Chiefs, the Ravens and the tight Hands. So he's going pretty chalk of last year as well. I think didn't New England win that division still last year and Buffalo was the
wild card? I'm trying to remember, but uh yeah, I think so. But yeah, so a little change there. I mean there's still people out there that are thinking that New England is going to win the division. By the way, I am watching the comments on our periscope stream, so if you have predictions of your own, throw them in there. I'll read them out while we're going through our predictions ourselves, just because I think there is a good little back
and forth. But I think Buffalo is a better team this year, and I think New England's got a chance. What was that Robbie changing something? I'm changing my pick. I gotta go with THEE even with Cam Newton at the change. Yeah, I'm a I'm a Cam believer. I'm a Belichick believer for sure. I think they're gonna be just fine. So I am going straight shock from last year. Sorry, I'm surprised Isaiah didn't go with his former head coach and Bill Belichick. He instead with the Bills, and so that's, uh,
that's a little intriguing to me as well. But all right on the Bill's defense is just next level super good nasty. Yeah, yeah, they are make nasty. And I think Josh Allen's a real deal at quarterback too, even though he's not your typical quarterback. I think he's a good modern in it fell quarterback. Um, okay, NFC, Rob will start with you this time. I'll go west to east Okay, and I'll start. I'll go with Seattle, Seattle, New Orleans, Green Bay and your Dallas Cowboys. What's your
prediction on Cowboys wins this year? Cowboys wins, I'm gonna go ten and six, okay, And that's good enough to win the division. It gives you, yeah, I think so. And it gives you a little buffer. Maybe they catch a break here there and they win an extra game or two you never know. I like it. Heckma six. Yeah, So all right, let's go. I'm going to Seattle. Okay, boy, this is just getting tough. Seattles, Seattle, Saints, Saints yeah, um,
of course, Cowboys, NFC's who am I missing here? The North? Yeah? You got the North? Oh Vikings, Oh okay, with Minnesota there, I like it. Okay, I'm a fan. And then you, uh, you've got the nfcas my boy. Yeah, we Cowboys. Okay, what are you? Okay, well, what's your what's your win prediction? Then? Hi, man, this is this is tough. Well you got on this beforehand, so hard. Oh all right? Eleven and five, eleven and five okay, eleven five awesome, eleven and five NFC East champions.
Isaiah went with the Seattle Seahawks the Green Bay Packers winning the NFC North, the NFC South belongs to the Saints, and he picked the Cowboys to win the NFC East. I didn't get a win prediction from him. I'll ask him, uh coming up here in a little bit. But so he's pretty much the same as what you guys had. I've got a little bit different. I've got the Cowboys winning the NFC East, of course, and I'll tell you
my win total here in a second. Uh. The NFC West, the forty nine Ers, I think win that division again. I still think they're fantastic and Kyle Shanahan's got him rolling. I think the NFC North goes to the Vikings. I think they're better than the Packers, and I think that's gonna be a fun little back and forth. But I think even without Stefan Diggs, I still think the Vikings are really good. Uh. And then the NFC South, the Saints, the New Orleans Saints are gonna dominate that division. Wow,
I'll do. Nobody picked Tampa Bay No, No, I'm not a believerable Tom Tom Brady. Wow. Now, I think the rest of his squad is really good and they're gonna make the playoffs. But I just think it's because of the rest of the squad's really good. But we'll see. Hell, he's probably what I know. It's true, he's proven a lot of people wrong. That's true. That's true. I'm gonna say eleven and five for the Cowboys. By the way I went through the schedule last night, I think they'll
go eleven and five and win the division. So I'm right there with you. He Okay, super Bowl matchup and Super Bowl champion? Rob what you got on that one? Man? I basically, I basically said, the Chiefs are gonna go sixteen and oh yesterday, So I gotta stick with that. I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with that. I got Pat Mahomes as the MVP, and I've got the Chiefs back in the Super Bowl. I'll go with I'll go with Seattle. Okay, with Seattle. I think the Cowboys have a chance to
make her run. But but you know, the continuity part of it, to me, I think probably gives teams an advantage this year, teams that have more continuity in terms of coaching and personnel. The Seahawks did a lot to upgrade, you know, in terms of defensively Jamal Adams, they got some help offensively for Russ. I'll go with them, But I got I mean, I don't see the I don't see the chief losing much at all this year at all. Let's just go nineteen and oh go, I'll go Chiefs.
Holy cow Okay, yeah wow, what Holy No? I don't really believe that. But they're gonna have losses and I got him repeating no, no, no, no, no, no, all right. Heck ma, Rob, I don't know what Okay, all right, I'm gonna leave that alone, all right. So I got Baltimore coming out of the AFC, and guys, let me tell you something, tell me something. This is our year, guys, and I'm gonna put it to you just like this.
After seeing Dak's interview, After seeing Dak's interview and him talking about I have a fire burning in me and you could put anything in it, and it's just gonna keep on burning. This is a man on a mission. He has every reason to be the MVP of the National Football League this year. I said it, MVP Dak. So write that down, Kyle, all I know what you got. I just think, man, it's time. You know, it's so many cowboy haters out there. And every time they want
to talk about Cowboys playoffs. Oh my god, you guys haven't won a Super Bowl in a quarter of a century. They don't say twenty five years, a quarter of a century to make it sound so much longer. Right, But at the same time, we have the personnel, we have everything that we need upfront defensively to dominate we have the Ezekiel Elliott, we have the weapon. We have a Mauri Cooper. Oh and we just got this guy from Ou that is going to set the league on fire. Wow,
I'm going. I'm going Cowboys Ravens with return of the Championship, sitting Cowboys win Super Bowl. Man, man, man, I'm ready to run twenty five years later, a quarter of a century later, we do ticket. Tell me so downtown Dallas, we being no Cliff oh Man, that would be a party. I think we would have to tell you what you know.
You know what, if they pulled this off right, with as many changes as they had to their their scheme, their coaching staff, players, that would be the biggest Super Bowl of the six that they've ever won, the most significant in the middle of a pandemic all of that. That would be one of the greatest accomplishments in the history of sports. I think I thought Rob was gonna make a bet here. I thought he was gonna make a bet. And I'm of course a big fan of
bets and holding yourself to to a standard. But yeah, I'm not run into the star. And it helped us get a wide receiver. Uh No, if we if they ended up winning a Super Bowl. If they ended up winning a super Bowl, then hey, I'm I'll do a podcast down in South oak Cliff. We'll do it. We'll have a talking Cowboys party. It'll be a whole thing. Uh. But man, remember remember yeah, no, once again, I'm a man of my word. Okay, Zaiah, I missed it. I'm gonna lose all credibility. Boy. Yeah you will. Oh, you
absolutely will. Um You'll be the homer of the of the group for sure. Uh Okay, Isaiah said, Sam Francisco over Baltimore in the Super Bowl is his prediction. I think the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs will get back to the Super Bowl and I think they'll go up against the Saints, and I think the Chiefs will win. And I even put a score on it, I said, Uh, I said forty to twenty one. Chiefs over Saints. Back to back Super Bowl champions Wow. The Cowboys, I'm with Rob.
It's got to be the continent naughty. Here's the thing. I'll pretty I'll make a prediction here about the Cowboys. I think they make it to a championship game and they just lose to the Saints. That's my prediction. I think they'll make the run. I don't think they'll go all the way. That's my only thing. He didn't even have any words. He didn't even have words at the moment. Okay, let's look at some day Cowboy. There you go. I
love it really quickly. We're already over time. But Sunday's matchup. Heckma, who you got Cowboys? Okay, rob Cowboys? Twenty seven high scoring game Cowboys. Oh, this is gonna make me look really bad here then. Um, I love the Cowboys and I just predicted them to go eleven and five. This is gonna be one of those five losses. And I say it's gonna be thirty four thirty Rams, and I'm not happy about it, but I've got that gut feeling.
We've got an article coming up on cowboys dot com that is gut feeling and I explain my pick, So go check that out. But I am picking the Rams. Thirty four to thirty is my score. I will hopefully be totally wrong on Monday, and you guys can make fun of me, because if that's the case, then I might have to pick them to lose the rest of the year. If they If the Cowboys come out and win, and I'm happy taking that bullet if I need to.
But guys, it's been a ton of fun. I want to run through some of these fan fan predictions so far are SP forty says the Cowboys are eleven and five. A TK says Cowboys twelve and four. Some of these guys really like the Bears, Kansas City, New Orleans, and the Super bowls. Cowboys over Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Heck, you're not alone. Cowboys over Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Jay said, get down with your bad self. Heck, I love that. I think that's perfect. He said, Oh, Cliff,
so you're represented there as well. And then thirty four thirteen Sunday win for the Cowboys. Thirty four thirteen. SP forty comes in with that. Oh and newis Scrubs chiming in. He'll be on later today on the on the Players Lounge, says the Rams. He's making fun of me for my Rams over Cowboys prediction, and I'll take it. That's fine. I'll take that. I'll take that bullet. I made the prediction. If they lose, then I'm right. If they If they win,
then I'm even happier. So that's that's the point. But guys, it's been a ton of fun. We can't wait to see you next week. Hopefully the Cowboys will be one and oh heading into Week two and we'll get you ready for that matchup as well. But for now, for Rob Phillips, for heck My Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long for talking Cowboys. We'll see you next week and a one and oh Cowboys team. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
