Talkin' Cowboys: Still Need a #1 Wide Receiver?

the Star in Frisco. It's kind of gloomy when it's rainy, isn't it. It's really gloomy. It's good for the lakes. What's the word they use in England. It's a glommy or something like that. I'm not gonna weather. I don't like this. Guys were experts. We've been to London. We've got you we are. I mean, you enjoyed London. But we've got a lot of friends over there that probably don't use that word glammy, glommy. I don't think our friends in England can fill us out. They're listening to

help out. Jamie right, help us outwer to predict the first two minutes of the show. I didn't think we'd go there. Rain talk Rain, and I've heard gloomy, yeah, England, Yeah, exactly. I have heard gloomy before. And we're going to take the gloom off what we saw on Sunday night, aren't we Are we going to move on and we move on to Jack a lot of powers. But I don't know if I can do that. You watch Monday night football as I did. I did too. Drew Brees is incredible.

He is incredible. That's right. He's been a winner every level of football, high school and Joe State championship at Texas Stadium in nineteen ninety six. It didn't seem that long ago, did it, But he's pad hell. He probably made perdual, he did. Joe Tilder and him were a really good pair together Perdue. You know, it was okay, and then Drew comes along and they went a lot more games, and they should have with him playing, and

look what he's done, you know with his career. Give Sean Payton a lot of credit on this one too. There was kind of some you know, Sean was starting out with the Saints and needed a quarterback, and lo and behold there's one sitting on your doorstep that he just went out and got and and good for him. That's what you gotta do. You got to get those

difference makers like that. Always the story of the Dolphins headed say yeah, shoulder, shoulder, Yeah, his physical Yeah, they failed very much like the doctors in Green Bay failing Larry Allen physical. Yeah, I've told that story before. You know, if you haven't heard it, that Ron Wolf used to remind the doctors every day when we played the Cowboys. You see that guy over there at number seventy three, he's going to kill us today. That's the guy you

failed on physical. So yeah, yep. Well Drew Brees killed it again last night. And in case you did miss it, was he became the NFL's career passing yardage leader all time. And the Redskins, despite a forty three to nineteen loss to the Saints last night, still lead your NFC East with a two and two record due to a bye the week before. That's why to come off a bye Redskins try, they were ready, they were ready to roll. Gosh, that was That's just a difficult team to play. We

all know that. We've we've all seen it. We've all seen the Saints where we get thirty eight first downs on us one day. Yeah, we've all sat there and watched that nightmare to have to deal with, especially when they got Ingram back and Chamara roll. That's that's gonna be a tough team. Yep, and you're playing that Division two. In fact, they talk that the Saints might be up there giving the Rams a run for their money. Gone down the road, we'll see. Now, did I hear this

right after? Like they he set the record with the touchdown pass. It was like sixty two yards or something. And if it was like it was staged, I mean they were talking about they show they showed bust the coverage. They show the Breeze family as they make their way down on the sideline just prior to that place. Sweet Yes, And he was thirty five yards away from breaking the record, and so they wanted to add the family down there

on the field whenever he did set the record. And so when they came back from commercial, they're showing the Breeze family as they head down and then there's thirty five yards away and it's the very first play there's a wide open receiver. It was like it was a movie script and it was just staged. It was even even the guy, the head of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Dave BA Baker, Babe Ruth, he was down already with the gloves by the way, That's what I said.

It's the first sign. I thought they were going to hand him the Stanley Cup with those gloves on, like the Stanley Cup guy. I mean, why does he have to d he ends in the ball? He's got the gloves on, is he? No? He had it because they gave him the sign. Maybe they didn't want the sign to have fingerprints. I I guess. I don't know. Okay, So I see David Baker there and I said, thinking, this is the first time a player has been inducted into the Hall of Favor during a game. So anyway,

did did I hear this right? Because you know, they carried on for a while right before they resumed play. But when the Saints all went out there to celebrate marching in, they gave him a fifteen yard penalty for did not. I could have swear they kicked off from the twenty. We don't have to guess. We can look at ut I heard him say that. Now, maybe I maybe something else happened. I don't know what they're going

to stop the game. I don't they I mean, they can't give him a penalty for that, can They are excessive celebration when all the team runs out on the field. I think that's my what it was. And then they did the jumping up and down the who's the official last night? I'd even see it, didn't notice it was the jumping up and down the deal? Well did you

see that? All? Right? Here you go? Um oh, it was a penalty on Michael Thomas unsportsmanlike conduct fifteen yards in force between downs and then okay, so he must have done something. He got in someone's face. He and uh, he and Josh Norman had an interesting Twitter exchange after that game. Basically like he called Thomas, called him out and said, yeah, you're a zone corner, get out of here.

You don't play any man carriage and you're not and you're not good enough to travel with anybody, basically is what he's saying. So we will speculate that he did something to Josh Norman. Okay, I would speculate, Yes, I said they didn't do that. So the result is somebody else, by the way, that was playing a lot of zone on Sunday. Uh, what was Ramsey if you walked Jacksonville. Yeah, I get to get on their defense today. I appreciate the heads up on that. I was watching the game

the second half. He was playing five to ten yards off the line of scrimmage. You know, they showed at one point right man the man right coverage, but after that he was backing off the whole time. It looked like, you know, it looked like seeing how fast Tyreek Hill runs. Yes, I know I have something to do with that. I think we saw it last last year here. But if you're gonna challenge verbally before the game, don't be playing seven yards off the line of scrimmage. I think he's

not gonna be playing seven yards this week scrimmage. It's gonna it'd be interesting to see when you when we study the Jacksonville if they in fact, though, where do you put him where? You know? Do you if? Now? Some teams will take there what they feel like is their most challenged receiver challenge meaning ability wise, and they'll put him to that side of the field to make him have to cover and then you attack everybody else say this, but it's I don't made it. So the

Coupboy's gonna put all their receivers to his side. That's true. No, no, but but you know, but it's something you have to think about. Okay, do you you do? You? It's kind of like when it's like teams moving Clowney around? Do you do you play Clowney over Tyrn Smith an entire game and have him maybe get one or two pressures or do you move him around to where he can

get six or seven pressures? I think that's where you know, if you're the Cowboys, you have to think, Okay, what's the best way to take Jalen Ramsey out of a game? Do you do you go ahead and say, Okay, we're gonna we're just not gonna challenge his side of the field. Now, I haven't watched their tapes. I don't know how much. I don't know how much. Yeah, I don't know how much.

If he travels at all, or if the fact the matter is teams are just not challenging him, you know, well, then if if he's going to do that, then he's following Zeke. He's the leading receive. You go, is he the leading receiver now? Yes, twenty two catches and then if it's not him, it's Beasley. And if it's not Beasley, then he's on Jeff. Okay, if you were Jacksonville, then would you would you put him on Beasley? That's what I'm saying, And I was I gotta figure I gotta

figure out. I gotta figure out if he if he goes inside at all. I haven't. I'm again, I haven't. Mickey's watched far more of Jacksonville than I have. I'm gonna get started on this morning. But one thing I was going to ask you about Beasley because the all twenty two hasn't showed up on the game pass yet. Did they do something to take away Beasley or were there just he just he didn't have a catch till overtime. Just didn't feel like that he in watching it, though

they tried. I mean there were things he was trying to run routes and they just could you know, first first possession that he was wide open on the left side, but the play was but the play was a screen going the other way. Yeah, it was a straight design. I mean, he could have had him in the flat and it would have been a first down. And that was really kind of you know, I mean, Beasley, I

give him credit. He tries, he runs routes. He doesn't always get the ball obviously, but yeah, it was they were really I think the most disappointing thing about this game to me was the fact that they couldn't get any traction against the secondary. And and I understand it, Dak took a ton of hits, you know, I get that there was pressure there and you know, but they

just couldn't really get anything going. And that's really been the achilles heel of of the of the Texans is that teams have had the ability to make plays on them in the secondary. Kind of felt like, going in if you could have protected well enough that there were some opportunities there and it just didn't materialize like I

thought it would. And going back and watching it, the two plays, two gathers Rico we know him as Rico and Jeff James, who's that we're on screens busting busting the blitz and that's and later in the game they tried doing that, but you know, they were in the backfield so quickly Dak had to you know, force the ball out quick. They didn't connect there on the Blake Jarwin play that you talked about yesterday. They did not make them for the blitz. You're right about that, Mick,

just going back and watching it. And the cleanest pocket I thought he had was the Deonte Thompson interception. Yeah, he had all day on that throw, right, And I'm not who was on that. I mean, I think he could have put a put the ball there better. I just you know, Thompson's body position was really really poor. Did allowed Joseph to get to where he needed to

be to play off hands. So it's like when he hooked back, Yeah, he was too wide the guy get inside of Yeah, absolutely, and so there were a lot of hands in there, it were, and it was a low pass. It wasn't like it was high and it was easy to pick off. Yeah. It just it's unfortunate that when they when they've had opportunity, something always breaks down.

I mentioned that Jarwin player. I hope everybody had a chance to go back and I'll break it down for you on the film room today just to show you really it was a it was a well designed play. They they had, they wrapped it during the week and they they brought it out at the right time, and if they could have just got the block. And what's unreally unfortunate is you're All Pro right guard that gave up the pressure inside. But she's going against another All

Pro player, so you got a tip time. Sometimes they All Pro player beats the other All Pro player and you had an all pro play called, but it doesn't get executed because they're All Pro player. And I'm not trying to make excuses for anybody, but I mean, you're relying on that guy to make that block. They're in ninety eight percent of the time, he's going to get

that block for you. And it just so happens though that they they gave up the sack and next thing you know, it's like you know, and then they look back and you could even tell when we asked Jason Garrett about it Yester in the walk off, you know, he was talking about, Hey, we had an opportunity. We just couldn't get the block secured to get the ball out to where it needed to be. That's what's you know, in those games where it's one or two plays going

either way. I mean, look what happened. They get the ball and they have a forty nine yard play on an undercut route. You know, I mean, you know, if he stays on this hip, maybe it's a catch and a tackle for you know, twelve yards. Instead it's a it's a huge play. You know. The best thing about the Rico thing wasn't the fact, I mean it was great, it was What was it like about a thirty two yard two yards reception? Was the fact that now they've

showed everybody just because we're in three tight ends. Person, we're running the football. Yeah, you better watch out because it may have looked like a blitz. They had nine guys in the box. What else would what did you expect? They very rarely, if ever, has that right, So, okay, watch out because we just might sneak somebody out. All right, we got off to a little bit of a late start due to weather difficulties. Here we into we come

what a segment? And how about we go to a phone call and go to Ray in Fort Worth to kick off talking cowboys? Ray, how you doing? Oh? Pretty good? You don't sound good? Uh no, I was listening to yesterday's show. I agree, A brand brought is get you gotta go for it. That's a first but uh uh, you know the second thing. All this, you know all the things, I'll the conversation has led to one thing. This team is just not very good. The general manager

as constructed. When you when you when you say we're gonna play tight end by committee, that's like saying you don't have one when you're gonna play wide receiver body committee, that's like saying you don't really have a legitimate one. You can't. You can't put so much on a running back. I believe, I believe Zeke. Maybe it's up by now with forty percent of the offense. When this guy is taking his tone on this guy, I mean, you can

say we need a linebacker. Well, the b YU kid thanks to the Draft show, best show on the network outside the Talking Cowboys, the by the kid from b YU who went who went to the forty nine ers? I like him just as much. If the guy we got he went in the third round. You could have taken that wide receiver there. Now you see what he's doing in Atlanta. You can't you can't keep going like this. This is not this is not on the general manager. This is straight on him. He wants to be the GM.

It's on his title. The gym is not going anywhere you want to evaluate Zeke. You gotta, I mean you gotta, you gotta. You gotta pay the quarterback this side of him. You're gonna pay the quarterback where you're giving him nothing to evaluate. I'll give you this. The Rams, the Brown, the Bears, the Chiefs. What are y'all have in common? They have a young quarterback? What have they done? They use all those resources to build around him. Now they'll be able to evaluate those guys. Now look at that.

What have we done for our quarterback? Gave him nothing? How you till you're going to evaluate the quarterback here? The next ar so and you're how you're gonna evaluate it. Now, you're gonna have to pay him franchise quarterback money when when he had when he hasn't shown you that he's a quarter that he's a franchise quarterback yet, but you haven't given him anything. Now the covered this bear behind him. I wouldn't blame him if he says I need franchise

quarterback money, because what wasn't I'm gonna do? We got nothing behind him. You gotta you gotta banged up Zeke that you built this team around. No, we don't need a uh Dak freely. Dak freely means Woodhi, we don't need a number one. Dak said it himself, so he's kind of on him. Hey, Ray, Uh, I agree with you on Fred Warner, the linebacker from b YU went to San Francisco. Third round. Um, so you're you say they could have got it like a Ridley in the

first round and then gotten Warner later? Is that like in the second round in the third round to the nine? Right? Watch his tea right? Right? No, no, but oh no, no, I agree with you. I loved Warner, so you you would have taken Warner in the second round then, right? You proposed that the Cowboys would should have taken like a Ridley in the first round in Warner in the

second round? Is that right? Oh? Ray, thanks for the call. Ray, Well, the reason I asked because you would have to take him in the second round because your third round pick was number eighty one. That's right. I took Gallop and Warner went seventy. So just to clarify that, I mean they spent a second round. I spent the fiftieth overall pick on a guard, right, to help this foundation continue.

They built this team around the offensive line and then put Zeke around that, and it's not the same offensive line. We've been saying that. It's just not Why didn't they take a center and there you go, because they didn't look they didn't know Daniels like James Daniels in the first round. But you know what I first round is you're gonna have. I appreciate it. I appreciate Ray's passion for that, and I appreciate watching the draft show, listening

to the draft show. The combination of vander esh and Gallop is better than taking Ridley and Warner. I'm sorry, and again Warner, you would have had to take Warner in the second's. Yeah, it's a better combination. I mean, if you and and and to me, uh, you know, Michael Gallop is somebody I'm waiting on. Michael Gallup was

one of my top fifty players. I'll be interested to see in three years time that if I was right about Michael Gallup, I think he's a much better I think it's he's a much better player and it and what's happened to him right now is I don't think Michael Gallup is a really confident football player right now playing you know, he gets one or two targets a game, and then he makes one or two catches a game. You know, I think it's hard for him to it is a rookie. It's been hard for him to separate.

It's been hard for him to play against contested you know, and guys learn, I mean, rookie receivers learn as they go. I was hopeful that he could come in and grow and be a difference maker. But the combination of vander esch and and and him, I think we'll play will pay off long and long term. Nothing against Ridley. I think Ridley is in a very great situation with the Falcons.

You've already got a number one wide receivers and you've got a quarterback that's a that can really throw the football, you know, and that's and that's that's a good combination

I'd like to see. I'd like to see in this situation if if they had a more consistent passing game, you know, with Michael Gallup, I'm again I'm betting on Michael Gallup here, but I'm also I respect that with Layton vander esh has come in, we have not these are two shows now that we've done or two weeks of shows that we have done that we have at least, I mean how many times we were doing shows last year. And it was this defense can't play without Shaun Lee.

This defense cannot function without Shaun Lee. If they have to play without Shaun Lee, another game just counted as a loss. We haven't had those conversations. And a lot of it has to do with the way that Jayalen Smith. That's another guy that I didn't want, Okay, I wanted this guy, Miles Jack that we're gonna you know, but hey, this way and playing this week, and you could say that Jayleen Smith has been a better player than Miles Jack.

You know, say he made the sack he made at the end of the half, the sack, the rundown, Yeah, everything everything. Did you look at two games now and and Jayleen Smith back to back games has affected the pocket the ways I broke down a play on Dallas Cowboys Dot on the last week where they put carry On Johnson against the Lions outside and Layton Vanderesh falls

on the play. If they don't get the sack and the pressure and the hit, they're throwing the ball to carry on Johnson for a big play down on your right sideline. So Jalen Smith is coming in and he's done, and so to say, and with him and Layton Vanderesh, they are not making me feel like that this defense can't can't play without Sean Lee. They're even making me

think that, Okay, at the end of the season. Again, I think at the end of the season, when we have offseason talk, there's gonna be some discussions about, Okay, can you now just move on from Sean Lee? You know, I know it's probably an evil thing to say that, but at least they're playing well enough to where you could say, this defense no longer needs Shaun Lee at seven million dollars and you can play without him. We'll see what a position does that. Warner he's a linebacker, no, no,

I mean where inside guy inside? Yeah, pays he can do. He's a blitzer cover guy. Yeah. Yeah, he's a good player, all right. And and Ridley, what's at planner right now? By the way one and four, people are probably saying, well, with we would have taken so and so maybe our defense would have been better, all right. They lost Dion Jones, Yeah, they lost Yeah, they've lost a lot. They lose the pass Rusher. Two. They made a living over the New England. Now, yeah,

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slash Cowboys for twenty percent off your first order. That's why I was so calm and cool in overtime, sitting in that press box by it's naturally cold in that Oh it was. It was okay. I didn't have to put my code on. Oh geez, that's not like the preseason. Did you use the phone booth there again? This time I did not have to do Remember that? Did you see that? Yeah? Yeah, they've got they've got old fashioned

phone booths. Was there a pay phone in there? I think it was a land line in there, which I hadn't seen a land line in years you don't have a land line at home. I do not have a land line at home. Who has a land line at home? That's that's fortunately I do. So I got to get rid of it. It's like having a polaroid in stematic camera in the thing shot. I think it was at your wedding. Yeah, your wedding, you had the polaroid cameras. I had to explain all the people, all the kids

I work with, how do you use the camera? They're like, what is this? I go, you take a picture and comes out and you wave. They didn't know, absolutely didn't. They didn't know. I bet you that there are kids today, and by kids, I meaning they might be even college kids today who have never seen a camera before. Yeah, yeah, didn't they hand out also just a little automatic, little

plastic the one we had. Yeah, you had to take those over to like the store again you had to wait an hour or two to get picture or to Costco or whatever. Trust me, I was as much fun as I had at your wedding, remember, yeah with yeah, with my whiskey in one hand and the polaroid camera and the other. But yeah, I mean I had to explain and They're like what and I'm like, the picture comes out the slot. Were you the photographer? No? No, no, probably at some point you had a polaroid camera. I

was the joker, is what I was. That thing made fun friends with all the bartenders at that part of Guarantee. I was the only one that you know, actually developed film. Yeah. College, in college, yeah, I had to do that. I took a photo class like you gil Brandt. You know what gil Brandt's first job ever was. He was aby photographer.

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it's a fencing moved. Be some great smells at kaboom. Okay, all right, smells can't sense the curate all all of your senses too. I just wondering if you were talking about the parking lotted Oakland thought we were going back, Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I thought we were going back forty years to Peace Park on the campus of the University of Missouri. I'd like you were there. I was, and

Janis Joplin were hanging out together, all right. Brian brought up the prospect of the linebacking Corps at the end of the season. I'm going to bring it more present day and shot Jerry Jones On the radio this morning, I was asked about Sean and Leaves availability. It didn't sound real confident for this week, but okay, now we're looking at a schedule of Jacksonville this week and then

at Washington next week and then a bye. So let's just play this out Sean Lee at full health after the bye, and and let's say all the linebackers are full health, how do you work this linebacking corps? And is there a way to have all three linebackers on the field at the same time. I think there's people that will argue that go ahead and put all three on there, because what have you seen? You know, Damian Wilson, we talked about him in two weeks ago. Son, I

think had four tackles last week in this game. We saw him miss in space. You know, he's got to do a better job of getting that tackle for a no gain. But I think there's a lot of people that would say, go ahead and put Vandersh out there at Sam, keep Shawn Lee at the wheel and then and then what you could do is rotate those guys when it gets in those Nickels situations. And you know, I think you're gonna probably say, or somebody's probably gonna say,

maybe the sixtend Shawn Lee a little further. Maybe maybe instead of playing sixty sixty five plays, Shawn Lee plays only plays forty plays? And and what how many games would be left after the buy? But they're three five that would be seven then got nine left, So maybe he gets Sean Lee for forty snaps a game for nine games, as opposed to maybe and you risk another reaggravation. I think they'd like to get to that point with him, honestly, I think they would. And that's not a knock on him.

That's just trying to preserve his health and increase that depth. And they clearly have it now. And I think Brian makes a good point. You know, get your three best linebackers on the field. That's what they talk about, their best five up front on the offensive line. Do the same thing. Banderesh is earning the right to keep playing, There's no doubt about it. There's also there's also ways

to do it snap wise with the nickel and the bass. Right, Okay, so who your linebackers and the nickel if they're all healthy, Sean Lee and and Jalen Smith. Okay, let's see. The idea was it was going to be Sean Lee and Vanderesh. Right, but my guy fifty four is a rare player when it comes to rush in the passer. This guy's got to feel you know, he could be your fifth rusher. You're gonna rush four. You know, Mickey's telling me, I gotta have some pressure. I gotta do some things. I

gotta get, I gotta create. He's created some opportunity, he's forced plays, He's forced people to have to account for him as a rusher. I would rather have him as a rusher and let Sean Lee be the cover guy. See. I think that Layton Vanderish can be a really good cover guy. I just don't know if he has the instincts right now as what you have with Sean Lee. I think he'll develop those instincts. But Lee as a cover.

How many times we've seen Lee kind of get in position tip of ball, Lee take a guy out of the backfield that they're trying to run a screen, knives through, makes a tackle for four minus four. Yeah. You know, how about the play on the goal line that they scored on though Layton vandersch even Chris Collins we're talked about, he was a tick late. He was a tick lay on the play. You know, it was the one where they ran the flip inside that that brought a cutie

inside you know for the touchdown. I mean it was Layton vanders was just a tick late getting there and maybe that's Sean Lee. He's on it. It's a it's a it's a no game right there. I nothing gets Layton vandersh But I'm keeping Sean. If Sean Lee is healthy, he makes more big plays that can get you off the field than Layton Vanderesh. Where was the ball on that play? I think it was on the two and he hit him at the one. Yeah, the first guy that missed was ninety ninety just had a chance and

couldn't trip him. Nice job by his part to try. And then Vanderesh coming from the inside again Sean Lee, Sean Lee is I mean Sean Broad Yeah, he's seeing the guy come across. He's slicking at the formation. And again I'm saying Layton Vanderish is going to develop that one help from Sean Lee coaching him, hopefully so. But I'm not I'm I'm keeping Seawan out there, but I'm spelling him on. I'm spelling him on, you know drives. I'm not keeping played drive. I'm keeping him out there.

In Seattle always saw a glimpse of that because they were Sean was nursing something. In the second series of the game, Lee was off the field and Vanderish was out. They did in Carolina too, where they I mean, there wasn't a health issue and they just took him off the field first in the second in the third quarter of that game. Yeah, I think it's I think that's the long term planner. But yeah, all things consider, if he's good to go, he's your best linebacker, no question

about it. But Jaylens, you're talking about the rush in the passer he's added. Jalen has added he's moving sideline to sideline, He's chasing receivers down the field. I mean, he is a he's turning into a complete player this year. It's it's really it's fun to watch. It's really fun to watch. The other thing about the postseason discussion is Damien Wilson's in the last year of his contract too. Yeah, so, and I think Shahn Lee would be of a mind

he would want to be a cowboy his entire career. Yeah, and he would be of a mind to do something work with Well, they're gonna have to use that rotation when Lee gets back, because it looks like they're gonna lose Joe Thomas here. Yeah, that is a good point. Ye foot injury there, so something, Mickey, what do you think he was in a big old walking boot and we got on the planet if. I don't know if it's a broken bone or a high ankle sprain or whatever,

but it didn't sound good for several weeks. So we'll see when he gets back. All right, Jim in Pasadena, you are next up here. I'm talking cowboys. Hello, Jim, Good morning. Man. Hey. I called in last week and said Jalen Smith was a one trick pony boy. I always proved wrong. Glad, Welcome to the club. Yeah, I'm really impressed with the defense though you know you watch film. They work hard, there's no dissension, there's no finger pointing.

You saw Gregory retrace steps and try to make plays downfield. I mean, these things are exciting to know about your team. Um I do. Phil Houston had the four of the five best players on the team on the field with Clowney and what Watson and Holmes. It eventually, when you're on the road, those kids are going to take over. And that's the way it is. I like Garrett's call play the Parce Hills field positioning pun it trust your defense and it just didn't work out. But I think

it was a sound call. Okay, thanks for taking my call, guys, all right, thank you very much. Jim. Now, Jerry was on the radio this morning. Anything that y'all took from Jerry's conversation with one oh five three the fan back in Dak Prescott again, he's all in on Dak Prescott and so that tells me. We talked about what to do next year and we're not to that point. Obviously they're five games into the season, but you're gonna look at like, who's our guy on the call called us

Ray Ray Ray? I mean, Ray's talking about trying to put help around him. I think if you're looking towards next year already, that might be the direction they go. If Jerry indeed is back in Dak the way it is and saying that, you know, because when Jerry sees something once, he thinks it can happen again. And he you know, I think we're past talking about twenty sixteen, but he's seen Dak Prescott have success. The difference is all the pieces around him, a lot of them are different.

This year. We also got to we probably don't understand what being said to him though. Also I've always talked about Jerry Jones the listener, we don't know what Jason Garrett's saying. We don't know what Scott Linahan saying. We don't know what Will McClay saying. We don't know what Stephen Jones is saying. You know, we don't know what Kellen Moore saying. You know, I mean there could be you know, Jerry is, you know, for what everybody wants

to believe. And this is one of the great strengths he has, and it could also be one of his biggest faults, is that he will listen. He will trust people like you know, Jason Garrett, He'll trust Scott Linahan. He'll trust these people to tell him that, hey, this is why it is and this is what we can do. Jerry trusted Scott Linahan to come up with a package for Tavon Austin. I know that for a fact. He said, hey, you got him, now you coach him, you figure something out.

And Scott said, yeah, we will. So you know that, that's that's what we don't know. You's also remember he trusts Stephen Jones. Yeah, absolutely so. I think we lose sight sometimes when everybody wants a place blame, it always goes on Jerry's shoulders, and that's not necessarily the case. And so he tried to help Dak out this year. That was the idea of drafting Connor Williams. I just said, right, yeah, I'm saying more help, Okay, more help. Look, but you

can't get everything at once. I just I said last segment, they tried to stabilize the strength of their football team in the second round. They did do that, and the third round and the fourth round. But see everybody, everybody dismisses that. Yeah, I'm not a wide receiver in the first round. Well, okay, you got the linebacker you needed to do that. I'm not just muting what you said. I'm just saying it's like, oh, we were gonna be Dak friendly. Well, Dak Friendly's protecting him and they are

not protecting him. They haven't replaced the guys they lost though, with the numbers in Witten and and I'm guilty of thinking that Alan Hearns could come in here and we had all said this, not we I should say I said this, if Alan Herns came in and gave it the same numbers as Deaz like, everybody would be really happy. And I don't know if that was out of the question to think because this is a guy that has a thousand yard receiver league you in the league feel

I felt like that he could come in. He is he is fast and quick and all that's that he's not. That's very similar to what desk. But I also saw a guy that was capable of making plays and they just have not found a way to get him the ball. He's been catching slants and things like that. But overall, you'd say, you'd have to be disappointed that you know that, but to go back, they tried to help. I mean,

Dalton Schultz, it was a fourth round pick right there. Yeah, you know, that's that's a that's a guy that has a history of being from a tough program in Stanford to being a you know, a blocker, a catcher, a kind of a complete guy. And you know he's been inactive now four weeks, so that's been you know, we mentioned about Michael Gallup. We're all kind of hopeful about Michael Gallup. We're all hopeful that he could have stepped up and made some more plays, but he hasn't you

know that they're trying. Then you know, of course you got an All Pro runner, you know, say the I think the biggest issue that we're seeing right now is where Brian Brass might have misevaluated was the offensive line man Pete And maybe the loss of Travis Frederick is more devastating to this line than we'll ever know. And that's not a knock on Joe Looney. But even Garrett said it in the press conferge yesterday. You lose something when he's not in there. And I thought Garrett said something.

He Knowstimes, he's not going to tell you everything in the press conference, but he said, look, there's a difference on the road with our communication. Yeah, and that to me, that points right back to Travis Frederick and all there's no question about that. Who is you know he runs things at the line of scrimmage for them. Yeah. And Joe has fought his ass off and done a nice show. Has not been a liability that I thought he might be.

But I'll tell you what this you know, this these the way that they're running the ball, the way that they're having some success or not success, and the pass protection issues that they've had. You know, we I know I went in thinking you got you got to Tyrn Smith, you got Zack Martin. You know, you got an improved Lyle Collins. Hey, we're gonna get We're gonna learn with

Connor Williams here. It's gonna be a little difficult, but but really the bigger issues, the bigger issues have been with the one group that you thought you can hang your hat on hasn't been nearly consistent enough that you can hang your hat on well. And they've opened up the can of worms now because teams are blitzing them and if you don't take care of that, it's going to continue to happen. Now. The disparity between what they score on the road and what they score at home

is ten points. Is it a product of who you played or how you played on the road. But it's been cleaner though at home, has it? I mean? Yes? Just overall the offense seems to have moved better. Yeah. And the Noose games, they just seemed more comfortable. There's more of a rhythm, uh, the tempo that we talked about in the Detroit game. You know, it's just it's just been a cleaner operation at home. And I don't know if it's crowd noise or who you who you play.

I mean, look, yeah, Texans front outstanding and it shouldn't have been crowd noise there because that was one third or like at the end of the game, the Cowboy fans were kind of getting into it. It was yeah, but if you were down on the I know you're in the press box down on the field at the end, it was loud. It was loud. It was loud. Um it's got that's got to be one factor. But this team has been able to withstand that in the past.

You know, I have a home. They have been so on the on the third and one where Zeke got stuffed by cutting him. Yeah, when you look at that on film, is that of course you don't know what the assignments are. Yeah, that's it that you would like. Could that have been something where they just they missed then they had They've had that. They're so concerned with

the down guys that all of a sudden. No. Give Cunningham a lot of credit though, I mean he saw it the gap open and the good these good linebackers. We've seen it with Keighley, We've seen it with Ogletree, now we've seen it with Cunningham. Their job is to go and make a play, especially on a short yardage situation. If you see a gap, go it's a gamble to get there. Man. They go play action and throw the ball behind you. Well, then that's you know, you're trying

to make a play. But they they, they they try and secure these down linemen first, and then all of a sudden you don't have a guy that's you know, Joe Looney, we keep talking about it, but Joe Looney's thinking, I gotta get this down block first. I got to secure, secure, secure, And you're thinking, well, maybe Zeke can make that one guy miss, And that's something we really haven't seen a lot of Zeke. You know, he hasn't made that first guy miss, Like we had no shot. He had no

shot on that one. That's true, But I mean slipped a little bit about there's been there's been some problems there. I mean, that was a hell of a gap. No, it was filled the linebacker, no question, no question. You wrote about this after the game, right, You thought Zeke didn't look quite the same. I don't. There were times where I thought he had the burst, you know, he captured the edge a couple of times. Yeah, I just to me, it's he's fighting through being banged up. Yeah

he is. I mean, there was a reason why they were bringing in Yeah Smith so many times. Yeah they did. And there was a play at the end of the third quarter. Maybe he had one guy to miss and the guy got him by his shoelaces and that could have been a huge game. But yeah, he's clearly he's dealing with a knee Prasidas and the sore ankle and um yeah, taking a lot of hits. Yeah that he was in the best shape it was. Life felt as good as he did after four games. Yeah, all right,

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There you go, unless is there another game rolling around that's a little bit better than that. They gotta give CBS so rarely gets the Cowboys, so they got ahead. They give them the Cowboys. I actually think they I think Cowboys redskins. I need to look. Might also be, oddly enough, a CBS game. Huh, So we're in that mode now, la. Yeah, train games, they cross them. I'll check on that. So we could have Romo for two

straight weeks'd great? Got Witten on the Tennessee game that a few weeks too, all right, So it could be a Romo Romo Witten back to back to back. Jerry, also on the fan this morning, said something about a number one wide receiver. Oh there was that too, Yeah, probably getting some run on Twitter and elsewhere. He made the comment that he doesn't feel like they've had a number one wide receiver here for several years, and of course that's going to get some run. But you got

to hear the clarification on that. His definition of a number one wide receiver, he said, Julio Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, there's only a handful of receivers like that in the league in his opinion. So there Thomas and the Saints, I think would be another one that you'd have to kind of look at his one in Pittsburgh. One in

Pittsburgh's pretty good, Green and Cincinnati's pretty good. So yeah, I mean it's a you know, and if if you take him to his word, you know, and Bill, I thought you brought up an excellent point and I don't want to steal your thunder being the point you were talking about when you signed Oh, which was I mean when you signed Dez? What year was that? Okay, at five years, seventy million dollars, you were paying him like a number one receiver, right, And so the follow up

should be, Okay, was Dez number one? Did you consider him a number one receiver when he signed him? Right? So that to me is he obviously feels like though the last three years or so, he didn't have a number one receiver if he injured one, Yeah, he had a guy that was banged up, that was you know, playing through a lot of things. But yeah, that's to your point. He signed a guy that was a number one wide receiver and then you know, through his injury

and then through a change at quarterback. I think I think the change a quarterback really affected Dez Bryant in the way that he in what we know him as a player. Yeah, you know, yeah, And I give Dez credit. He could have been a guy that could have complained about when they were thirteen and three. He could have been a complaining guy in the locker room and like say, well,

we need to play Romo. But he held his tongue and at least in the media and then back to you know, back to uh Dak Prescott in the locker room. So I mean that's you know, he really he's talk about falling on the sword for somebody, I mean, his friend who made him what he is now, who's now in the broadcast booth. You know, he said, hey, we gotta go with this guy right now. And it might have ultimately cost his The way he's played and the decline in his game could very well be affected by

the way that the quarterback played. But if you go back and look at the last eight games he played in twenty sixteen, he was on pace for a ninety catch season with fifteen touchdowns the last eight games, even regular and in the playoff game. Look at his numbers. So he wasn't healthy early in that season. And I think he played twenty seventeen, he wasn't healthy again, he was banged up. So I don't know that you you want to play it on Dak not throwing him open.

And it'll be interesting to hear what Romo has to say when he does the game, because one of the things I think he was big on doing the game, uh Sunday the Jacksonville game, was how Mortals was throwing people open. Right. He said it about three or four or five times about how he anticipated where so and so was going to be. And Atman on the radio

this morning was saying the same thing. And I think he was analyzing the Houston game, the Cowboys Watson's game and talking about Dak Dak and and uh and anticipating is the word that he used to knowing where the guy is going to break. Talk about accuracy and anticipation, right, yeah, hallmarks of you know, high quarterback level play in the NFL. Got to have those things. Micky, you think though that Okay, So I offer that Dak and and and not to

I shouldn't blame it on I'm not blaming. I'm just saying I'm offering an opinion that Dak didn't affect the way that Dez played or finished out. Sure didn't. I mean unless things went down hill. I still say the end of last season, who was gonna beat you when Zeke wasn't in the game? Does Bryant? And I'm gonna make sure he doesn't beat me? Right? And it's it doesn't mean I'm doubling him every play, but I'm making sure I'm getting enough pressure on the quarterback. He didn't

have time to dilly dally around in the pocket. I just think the way they played, teams start playing a lot of cover two. It wasn't double teaming when here people here, Oh I'm gonna double the wide receiver they expect to see, you know, like basketball, No, they got the guy sitting over the top. You know, it's the same thing like Seattle. How they played the Cowboys, Well

they didn't throw deep. Well did you see the corners running off on the you know, right before the snap, their corners are dropping five to ten yards and then the safeties are back there. So now where are you going to throw the ball? I better throw it underneath. How do we account for the slants and stuff they dropped though the no, and he was not. Yeah, and that's not that's that's not on See, That's what I'm saying.

I'm trying to think about. Okay, the routes that he's been so good throughout his career, we were starting to see in slippage there. And that's where I started going. I wonder if it's the health. I wonder if it's the quarterback, because with the previous quarterback, we didn't see him drop slants. We didn't see him having problems with

routes and stuff like that. And I and maybe you know, that's where I'm looking at it and saying, you know, you know, they just really didn't connect like they should have connected. If you're continent as a drop, that means he's got something to drop. It's not like he's up here over here, right And if you're not watching on the I think he was jumping out of his jumping out of my chair and I was outside my past catching cylinder over there. You go, Yeah, that's good. That

was a new one yesterday outside the cylinder. Yeah, I just don't know, you know, I'm trying to, like I said, I always like to try and figure out why. And I agree with you on the coverage, Mickey, but when he started when when things when he started missing the routes or they started missing the catches that and not every ball was thrown perfectly, I get that. I just

think he started pressing too. I think he started pressing like, oh, I got to get this and run as hard as I can instead of catching the ball and just just calming down. Yeah. Well, they decided for whatever reason, Brian, I think maybe, like you said, maybe slippage in his game. They decided they could just move on from that based

on that salary, and they didn't. You know, they have tried to replace him by committee, and I think, yeah, all those numbers and maybe philosophically again we go back to, well, Dak will take another step. You got Zeke for a full season, you hope, and if this offensive line is what we expect it to be, you don't necessarily need number one guys, and right now that's not proven out the way they'd hoped. Okay, too, then let me give

you this, keep talking about both of those guys. First round pick next year, you got a number one type wide receiver or number one type tight end. What are you doing? I'll defer to the broad man on that one. No, I don't know. Yeah, have a draft show coming up open week. We have Dame Burglar on. Thank you. Yeah, I'm just so I think you can't replace everything at once. I'm going I'm going with the wide receiver. Man, Okay, all right, I mean assuming that they they're the same type.

Now the problem you right makers, Okay, how about this though, guys, and I don't mean to throw a wrench into what Mickey just said because I love draft talk. You know this, If you do end up with a very very high pick, are you considering a quarterback? Well, that's why I was going back to what Jerry say. You have eleven games left. That's what I'm saying, though, I mean, given your given

your question, I'm taking the wide receiver. But given if you said, okay, if you take the owner at his word today, he basically many years to come, we're saddling. Oh no, that's yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's kind of gotta say it. But oh no, yeah it shot you know, right, yeah, I mean, if you if you end up with a top if you end up with the top eight pick, you know, you know, there's gonna be a lot of consideration there for a lot of different positions, not just

a wide receiver. Oh, they'll be fifteen to eighteen. That means you're eight and eight again right, probably in seven. Yeah, well, I mean that's kind of what we've seen after five games. Yeah, a roller coaster, Teter Todter. It has shrives me nuts, especially when everybody else ins divisions playing poorly. Well, you know, you can't put anything together right now. They're just part of the group in the show. I'm enough for Peyton

and Minnesota. Peyton, you're on talking Cowboys. Hey, guys, um real quick, I thought a better player that Ray could use for his point a little bit. Uh, Darius Leonards. He could have been had in the third round. But that's all hindsight. Great player. Yeah yeah, Draft Show Special was right on him. Um. One thing that Nicky said, I love you, Mickey. I just disagree that's okay that

you can't fix a lot of pieces at once. We saw the Eagles they had They got Jordan Hicks, al Sean, Jeffrey j Hi all in one season and it led to a Super Bowl. How's that working now? Well, they got a lot of Super Bowl one more in the Cowboys had I understand it worked out, but yeah take the ring, Okay, let let him finish, go ahead, sir. Um. So I was just gonna say, like I said this last week May two weeks ago, that you just can't go into a draft expecting everything to work out. Um,

like you guys have said, like I mean brought. Would you say that Carl Williams right now is better than Jonathan Cooper? Yeah? Absolutely right now right, yeah, absolutely, yes I would from last season. Yes, yes, Well I want to disagree with you, but I guess John Cooper head tra No, you could disagree with me, like Mickey said, feel free to disagree with I think Carl Woods is the higher ceiling. But what my point is is that these guys are going to take some years to be

where their feeling is potentialized. Like we don't know Gallup, he can't get open, like every single field that goes to him and he just got coverage all over him. Yeah he got there throws though, just right, you're absolutely right, You're absolutely right. I just think that if you're coaching, as coaching for your wives, you can't be sitting around with all this cap space and not do anything and

quote unquote being married to these receivers. I mean, that's just a guy that you could have brough Sammy Watkins. Great glad they tried to do it. Thank god they didn't because that would have been bad. Why not a guy like a Jordy Nelson. So just Dak needs a reliable wide receivers. He costs like two million dollars more than Alan Herns on a two year contract. You think that wouldn't help out Dak more than what Alan Herns is giving you? Someone that actually like Cole Beasley two

weeks in a row. Now, Brons, you talked about week slot corners that they're facing. Sure, what has he done? Yeah? You know as much as I and I appreciate this call. You can stay on the line and I got something I want. God go Aheaday, question Darius Leonard? And so you would have taken Darius Leonard in the first round. No, he went in the fourth round, right, So he went in a second round in the second round, second round number thirty six. Yeah, and so yeah, I just wanted

to clarify on our show. Available in the third round, now we had to turn round grade on him. You had to take him in the first round if you're going to take Darius Leonard. I just wanted to clear that up, right, Okay, Yeah, Brian, you were talking about Jordi Nelson. Yeah see, I just don't think that they would have gone They were not going to go for an age there at receiver. They just weren't going to do that. And I appreciate the thought of trying to

get him a reliable guy. Let me tell you what if you're gonna if a guy like Cooper Cup another draft shows, specially that we talked about you years ago. Yeah, see, that's the kind of guy you need a bat and people get confused, and I say this a bad ball catcher. You need a guy that not only could catch the good balls, but when the ball's offline. Mickey just did it with his jumping around the chair. Guy with a high catch radius that can make all kinds of plays.

That's the guy. The kid. The kid went undrafted in Minnesota feeling somebody like that, somebody that can make a difference of being a bad ball catcher when it's off target, Like you had some passes that were off target the other day. What happened? They get knocked in the air. They don't, they don't. Just didn't caught theirs. Yeah, they don't. They don't get, they don't get. They don't get this catch on the sideline the guy and then they had to challenge a play that should have been a catch.

Hopkins is a special player, but the forty nine yard catch was I mean out of his cylinder, as you might say, And yeah, right bright, I mean the Tavon one. Yes, the ball was high on the intercepted past, hit him in the hands. Yeah, qt, he should go get it. And again on the Cooper Cup, he went in the third round. He went they early third round, so you would have had to take him instead of Cheeto in the in the late second round or and my guy

was Juju Smith Schuster exactly. There's another one. See but but you're not second round the corner, but you had to get him in the second round. Yeah. See, this is where this is where you look at the draft and you go, Okay, who's the guys that can help you? I need guys that can make plays now. And the one thing that Cooper Cup is coming and done with golf is went right off the jump. He's come in and played. You know, they were a playoff team. Uh,

you know, they were a playoff team. They didn't go very far last year. But you saw when he was in the life, they used them a lot of different ways. We remember when he was here in the game at at and T. Guy makes all kinds of little place for you, and that's I don't think they have that guy. I mean as far as Beasley. Yeah, but they just can't find ways to get them now. Maybe they can't get the ball to Cooper Cup, Maybe they can't get the ball to Feeling. Maybe they can't get the ball

to to DeAndre Hopkins. Maybe they have Cup in Michael Gallup and we just don't know it because they can't get the ball to Yeah, exactly, that's right. Okay, Yeah, all right, we've continued tomorrow. Here's a good questions, good call. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.