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The Cowboys’ front office has expressed their faith in Mike McCarthy for this season and beyond. What signs of progress have we seen for 2021 in McCarthy’s program? The crew discusses.

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the Star in Frisco. And now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck

My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's. It's a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys here from the virtual s WBC Mortgage Studios as we break down what happened on Sunday against the Cincinnati Bengals, and then we start looking ahead to where the San Francisco forty nine ers come to town. It's a fans on the fifty Tuesday, So send in your fan questions right now in the periscope stream or

you can go and tweet at us as well. But it's Hech, Harrison and Isaiah stand back alongside myself, Kyle Yeomen's, Ron Phillips, which join us here in just a minute whenever he's done doing his big time duties of talking to one oh five three the fan and the boys of Sean and RJ. But guys, how are we doing today? Are we Are we still reeling after the win on Sunday? Are we already looking ahead to what the San Francisco forty nine Ers present. Mister Isaiah, stand back, I'm looking

forward to the forty nine ers, sir. I mean the winds are in the past. Uh, it's already completed. Let's figure out what the heck we're gonna do next. That's such a coach answer, such a such a coach answer. Well, then then I'm on the whole of the end of that. I'm still basking in the after glow of the victory, asking, yes, hey, we've only had four of these victory Mondays. I'm gonna turn it to victory Tuesday. I'm gonna hold on to

this feeling as long as I possibly can. It just felt good, man, It felt good to see our team get a win. And you know, guys play up to where they felt like they needed to be at this point in the season. And I don't know if you guys saw. I mean, there's so much happening with the Cowboys right now, and I'm sure you're gonna hit this. So I don't want to get ahead of you, because that's what I do. Maskoyle, Yeah, yeah, I mean you

do it all the time, but I love it. But I mean, there's plenty to talk about whenever he comes to the last couple of days because of what Stephen Jones said yesterday on one HI five three The Fan, and then what Jerry Jones said today. And I kind of want to get into what Jerry said today, and he basically doubled down and he backed up Mike McCarthy and he said it would be crazy. His actual word was ridiculous on what he would end up or ridiculous to even think that Mike McCarthy would not be here

in twenty twenty one. And that was what Jerry Jones said today on one h five three The Fan. But Isaiah, last week, you were the one that said that you didn't think that Mike McCarthy was the right man for the job. Does one win change that or is this just Jerry completely backing up his guy and doing what he needs to do on air talking about what his head coach is moving forward my steam is last week?

Or was just in reference to being unsure if he is the right guy simply because of the decisions that he's allowed to pass through his ranks. The defensive thing, the things, the defensive calls or lack there of execution or defense which runs through the defensive coordinator in which he now he coaches that coach. So he allows that the special teams players have come through that he's allowed to across his table. Guess what he coaches that coach. He allows that. So I do have a lot of

questions pretending around coach McCarthy. I have no questions about his history, his past, but we're not talking about the past anymore. Right The past gets you, gets you to the present. But right now, presently, we I don't think that he's done a good jobs as a head coach in terms of being the overseer of all decisions that touched them. But one game does not turn that around. Absolutely not. We're still at the bottom of the of the league and a lot of a lot of different areas.

So you know, I think he has a long way to go. I think, you know, you do owe him a full off season. Now. I think that's that's fair. I wasn't saying to get rid of him. I'm just saying that based off his decisions this year, I am definitely not confident, but I'm going to give him. If I was a general manager, I would definitely give him another year in a full off season to show me

that what I just saw this year was was not true. Well, I think any any other statement about Mike McCarthy in twenty twenty would obviously be a knee jerk reaction to what's going on with this team. You have to all things being considered with COVID and what this coaching staff

has had to deal with. I think that's smart. I think you don't attack it any other way, especially when you went in to twenty twenty believing that you had the right guy and obviously, unbeknownst to you, global Pande mc breaks out, and so I think that that's smart. I think I didn't expect for Stephen or Jerry to

answer that question any other way. And I think you know, not saying being let's be fair, I just feel as though, you know you can't just have the okay, let's fire this guy now, and realizing that he didn't have his full arsenal and he definitely didn't have time to prepare for the season. But there are some questionable things that has happened, Like Isaiah said, all of those calls, a lot of the things that he allowed to happen on

special teams, defensive calls, things like that. He hears that offensive calls here, he's hearing again his headset and his job is to coach to coaches. So when things like that go by on your watch, that's just one more that they're they're notching and putting under under his name to see how he proceeds with this going into the future.

But you know, yeah, I didn't expect it the answer to go anything any other way except for we're bringing him back next year and Rob, we're talking about Jerry Jones and what he said, yeah, or this morning rather on one oh five three the Fan just a little bit earlier than what you hopped on with Sean and r J. They were on with him and he was basically backing up Mike McCarthy and doubling down there. Do you think that was that's exactly what Jerry thinks moving forward?

Or what do you What did you make out of what Jerry had to say? Yeah, sorry, guys, I ran kind of late on the Fan. I was honestly surprised that it picked up steam in the mainstream media the way it did. To be honest with you, I don't think there's any There has never been a question to me or I don't I believe Jerry in the Jones's mind that Mike's back next year. I mean, one thing about Jerry is one regret that he has going back

to the late nineties in firing. I think it was chan Gaily was not giving him enough time to establish his program. It's it's one reason why Jason Garrett was here for ten years because Jerry, Jerry decided continuity with your coaching staff is very important. Now they reached a point with Jason Garrett where they decided they needed a new message. But they absolutely they're gonna give Mike a lot of rope, a lot of chances here because the pandemic is one thing. They also it's not based on

so much to me, what's what's happened this year. This year has not been indicative of what he can do as a head coach. Part of it's the circumstances. Part of it's like you guys said, I mean, he's kind of a walk around coach. I think we lost Rob on both ends of this. So we'll get him back coming up here in just a little bit. But basically I like what he was talking to and I definitely want him to finish off what he was saying here

in just a little bit. But Isaiah, whenever it comes to listening to Jerry Jones, I mean, it really hasn't been a question with Mike McCarthy, right, I mean it really hasn't. You never really at any point this season, even though no matter what you think personally, you never saw this coaching staff and said there's no way that MIKEL. McCarthy comes back in twenty twenty one. Correct. Uh, sorry, it's a little bit of an echo. So I think

I got what you got what you said. But uh, in terms of just repeat the last sports you said, coach McCarthy, it was there any questionations he's coming back. There was no question about what Jerry Jones had to deal with in terms of bringing him back in twenty twenty one. That was never in question. But maybe the rest of the coaching staff that was kind of sporting last week. Yeah. Absolutely, I think obviously coach McCarthy's coming back. He you don't. You don't fire a coach after after

what if this is this is unprecedented. This has never happened ever in the history of Everingham. Um, so you get you definitely, if you were to fire him you're the most cutthroat, ruthless individual in the world. If you fire the hey coach for that. However, however, you do fire coordinators and the defensive coordinator, I don't I don't see how they can retain him after this year. I think that you'd give it him a Yes, he's had

a lot of injuries happening to him too. There's guys that were supposed to be there, Veterans are supposed to be there that he was relying on who you know, either got hurt or you know, either got cut. However, the cream of the crop, majority of his guys, they have been there. He's had a ton of injuries in the secondary as well, so he's had to overcome some things. But you look at it on the other side of the ball, Coach Philman has overcome those things as well,

and coach philm is not even a coordinator. Kellen Moore has made adjustments as well, and he is a coordinator. So when you look at those those comparisons, when you start looking at history and saying, hey, this is one of the worst defensive defenses of all time, it's kind of hard to justify giving him another opportunity to come back because he hasn't shown you that he can overcome adversity.

That's That's one thing that I think everybody looks for is I hate when those points of adversity really hit, when those hurdles show up. How do you get over him? Do you get over him? Or do you just run into them over and over again? And I think that our defense has continually ran into the same dog and hurt and set up finding a way around it. Heckma Isaiah said, ever them, that's that's good. Uh. Mike Nolan

is Uh. Mike Nolan has had his struggles, and I think when you look at the numbers on the defense, it's it's it's through, it's off the charts. How bad this defense has been on so many levels. And I think it's hard uh as a fan base to kind of get behind him and say, Okay, let's give him another let's give him another stabbath this um, you know, not making any excuses for him. I just feel like he did not He never had the personnel to play the scheme uh that he wanted, and I believe he

knew that going into the season. There are so many injuries that happened prior before the season even started. I mean, it seems like that was many moons ago. But there were so many guys that we were counting on to be a part of this defense that that were not and you know, with the rookies and and um guys that came off the practice squad to be on the defense. It just seemed to me like this defense never had an opportunity to get that continuity that we thought they

would have in the front line, linebacker wise, dvs. And look, man, that's that's the story all on its own, and just how bad that has been for us, especially at the safety position. We have to do something there, and so I don't know, I kind of I hesitate to place Blaine, especially when you know coaches are not coaching guys to with on tackles and not attack the line of scrimmage or not break on balls. These are things that guys

have been playing their whole entire careers. And so look, I just feel as though, even with that, even with all things being considered, maybe we you know, approach this with caution and say, look, man, let's let's come back to it the defense in the off season. Let's get some of the personnel in there. So that we can play the kind of defense that Nolan wants to play, because right now he doesn't have the dogs to do it. Wow,

So Isaiah, you're keeping him all right? Excuse me, Isaiah, you're moving on and then heckma, you're keeping him Rob. I see you back on our WebEx side of things. Sorry, I'm agree with Mike Nolan. I don't know what they're gonna do. I mean, I think you know. He was asked directly last night via conference called by the media, Mike Nolan was you know, do you expect to be back? And he said he's not thinking about it, and if when that time comes, we'll deal with it if there

is a change. So like, look, he's aware of how bad the defense has been this year. He knows it. I mean, when you look at the numbers, it's it's historically bad. And it was a step in the right direction on Sunday. But you know, I hear what you're saying about, you know, not having the pieces necessarily to play what you want, but then play a four three,

you know, don't be as multiple. And they did scale some things back as the season went along, but he has done both schemes throughout his career, and we heard about them trying to you know, Taylor scheme to the personnel. I don't know if they've really done that this year. They tried to fit it around what they wanted to do, and it hasn't. It hasn't worked, And some of it's personnel and some of it is executing you know, simple assignments.

You know, we've talked about that, Isaiah talked about that during the season. There's been basic coverage as they've blown and then in the personnel game too. Look, they haven't they didn't replace certain players well enough clearly Byron Jones, Jeff Heath, MALIEK. Collins. You can go down the list you would. When people say it's, oh, it's it's the same defense as last year, No it's not. You know, they're missing guys that did a good job for them

last year. So it's a lot of different reasons. But as I said on the fan a few minutes ago, I mean they're gonna have to ask some hard questions after the year about scheme, why didn't it work? And obviously Mike Nolan's going to be a huge part of that. We know Mike McCarthy has a lot of faith in him, but you know, something's got to change. Whether it's drastic changes in scheme or whether it's a change at the

coordinator position. I don't know what they're gonna do. And I think that's something that's significant is is a lot of people are I mean, that's kind of where I hear that excuse come in and it's it's, oh, this is the same personnel group. And I've said it before, it's very similar of a personnel group that the Cowboys had last year on defense. But one guy that's not out there's number thirty one and Byron Jones, and you

don't have Byron Jones back out there. So it's a combination of the personnel, it's a combination of the scheme. There's a lot of things missing out of this defense that have to be found this offseason for the Cowboys to start having a little bit of success. And by the way, I am watching the periscope chat because it is fans on the fifty Tuesdays, So once again, if you have questions, send in your questions on the periscope chat. I like this comment from for Dizzel and I love

the name to for Dizzele. He says, bring Wade Phillips back. Best defense we've had it forever. Where anybody want to go, get it? Get Wade Phillips back, Isaiah, you played for the man. Yeah. Coach Phillips is an amazing human being. First of all, he's not I wouldn't classify him as an amazing head coach. He's he's a great gentleman and nice guy. But I think he's an amazing defensive coordinator. That's just one thing he does well. I think he's stepped out of his element a little bit when when

m P. I'm grateful because he brought me on. Um. But but but um, I think I think he's he's a much better defensive coordinator. And I don't think there's anywhere he's been where he hasn't been well respected, where he hasn't gotten the most out of that out of the out of those players, out of that defense. Um. He brings a lot of a lot of range, a lot of diversity, the diversity, a lot of chick curveballs,

you know. In terms of his defensive schemes, He's able to run the three four, He's able to run the four to three no matter what personnel He's had, He's found a way. And I think that's my biggest issue with with with Mike Nolan this year is everybody knows that you've had injuries. Everybody gets it. Everybody gets that you've had injuries. Everybody gets that you brought veterans in that that you knew we're going to play an integral part and they didn't show up the way that you

expected him to. We get it, We totally understand. However, as a coach, as a player, right you're judge based off of how you can overcome those things. How can you how can you change course? If this is your course and you run a dog on boulder comes off the mountain and blocks your road. Do you just sit there and say, well, I'm just gonna wake this one out. Or do you say, you know, let me find a way. Let me start looking around. Can I go up that way? Now? Let me see if I can go around this way?

You start changing things that you have to get creative because this is your personnel, this is what you have. Either you go have a conversation with Will, with Will McClay and Jerry Jones and you say, hey, I need to get this guy out of here. Give me, this guy right here that I see blah blas blase, or you say, these are my guys that I have on my current roster. What the heck can I do to make sure that these guys are effective and efficient? I

don't care if it's even something that nobody's ever seen before. Shoot, when I played for New England, Rex Ryan used to run a one one five five defense one to five five. Hey, what the heck is a one five five That's never been done ever in history? But guess what, that's the personnel group he had. He trusted one defensive linement. He had five good, really good linebackers in five dB. So what did he do? This is what we're going with. It doesn't matter whether or not his tradition or not.

Find a way to make it happen. Find a way to throw off the opposing team and be successful. And no, and I'm sorry, Kyle, I just want to say that, you know, I agree with that, and I think that you know, obviously you got to play to the strength of the guys that you have. But in the NFL, if you stay with us a look too long, teams will pick you apart. And he had to be multifaceted

with his defense and his coverages. If you're looking for just talk about Tank Lawrence, right, a guy that we've seen that come in through the draft that it was a little raw. We have to work on this game. Leon Lett worked on him to know end and he turned out to be a player and got the contract.

Incomes Mike Nolan changes what we were doing before from the four three to the three four, and now instead of being a guy that's in the three down, he's in a bicycle stand right, and that changes the dynamic of the way that that guy had been coached up all of those years. I just and then let's go back to the fact that multiple interviews with Steven Stephen Jones saying that, look, we have the guys on campus to get this done. We haven't seen that those guys yet.

Right back when we were trying to get other guys from other teams, and I don't even want to get Isaiah started about this, but I just feel as though we had multiple opportunities to bring in guys to help us, but we felt like the group that we had was good enough. And I think that going back and looking at the film, we realized that we didn't have it.

That's so frustrating, it really is, because there were guys out there that can potentially help you, or at least you thought so, and they just haven't been able to bring any any of those guys in. Rod. But those names sound good in names theory, right and right. But look at who the Cowboys brought in and name it sounded great too, you know, Everson Griffin, don Terry Poe didn't work. Yeah, so, I mean there was no guarantee there. I don't really you know, nobody signed her Old Thomas

this year for whatever reason. I'm not saying he can't play anymore, but nobody did so. Isaiah mentioned Rex Ryan. It did get me thinking about Rob Ryan coming in here, and there's there's a similarity. Like after Wade's tenure, rob Ryan comes in as DC and we heard about being multiple and doing all this different stuff and it's it sounds great, but if you can't apply it on the field,

that's when you have a problem. They had substitution pattern problems, you know, with with Rob Ryan, and that's they try to do too much. You know, Jerry said it um and guys aren't comfortable on the field, then that's that's where your primary job as a coach is making your players comfortable on the field, and they have yet to do that consistently. And that's why the rankings are where they are, and the Cowboys are at the bottom of the barrel whenever it comes to those rankings. And this

will be You're welcome, guys. I just wanted to let that be known. But I mean, this is gonna be a conversation not only this week, but next week and the week after and in to the offseason, because that's how the conversation is going to continue to unfold. And these last three games, I mean we talk we mentioned

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of the Dallas Cowboys. So guys mentioned this a little bit earlier in the week, but we didn't really get a chance to go into it. But we saw Reggie Robinson for one play, hey, for one stamp. We saw him as a warner and it was a run play to the other side. And we also saw another inactive Bradley And I my question is to you, guys, what's holding this back now? I mean, because earlier it was kind of a fun little joke. It was a bit of a bit let's let's see these guys. We want

to see him play. But whenever you're four and nine and you're in the position where you are, where you're a half a game from being eliminated out of the NFC East Hunt, why is Reggie Robinson not available, and where is Bradley and I at the same time, because Isaiah, rob I don't I don't know. I don't know at this point anymore where they could be made these something's

holding them back, Isaiah. Do you think of anything specific that could potentially be the case with those guys not even remotely seeing snaps, especially right now without having seen practice. The only thing that I could even remotely even point to would be just their comprehension of the playbook, that's all. And again that's just me guessing. I have no idea, But if I had to guess anything, it would be

the comprehension of the playbook. Because we have literally went down at least at the at least at the safety position. We went down to Dan. They're picking going to rob Pee Island and grabbing somebody and and and he still hasn't found a way to be on the field. So I'm not sure what's going on. I wish I could see practice that have a better understanding Bradley and I. I think there's just there's just too many guys in

front of them right now. Honestly, I mean Randy Gregory coming off of coming off suspension, on us of that that obviously pushed him down even more. So. There's a lot of events. There's a lot of guys that are getting paid a good amount of money. You got guys like Crawford that are in there, they're getting paid good money that they have to play. They have to play them because they're paying them. So you know, unfortunately he's just he just gets a red shirt. Ear But in

terms of the Robinson ordeal, I have no idea. Heckma, so you go one play with Robinson and automatically you get the hook and pull them out. That's a and to me, I mean in similar situations like that, it just see it sounds like what I said said, the coaches don't trust them, and but how do they trust those other guys that we see getting beat on just

simple slam routes. You know, look, I've always been that person that felt like the coaches and as much time as they spend evaluating players that I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record on this, but that's just how I feel. I think they do a good enough job Monday to Sunday doing the evaluations and to me, if that guy had anything in them that they felt like would be useful on game day, he'd be in there. So you know, maybe this is a red shirt year

for him to pick up the playbook. And you know, all things being considered when we talk about Mike McCarthy and Mike Nolan and all the coaches that are gonna come back, we have to keep put into consideration that guys like Reggie Robinson may have benefited greatly from OTAs and everything else that he was not a part of. So look, I just feel like and even we're going to Bradley and nine, I think again, Randy Gregory emerging

on the roster and also Dorrence Armstrong. I think they believe more in those guys and you see them staying with them. But again, even those young guys are getting reps on special teams. So it's not all for nine. And we still have a couple more games left and you may get your wish, Kyle, I hope. So yeah, Kyle, I'm gonna give you a little Lloyd Christmas here. So you're saying there's a chance because because Mike Mike Nolan

kind of left the door open yesterday. He said he said they talk about him every week like they have the discussion should he be up, should they give him an opportunity? And it's what you guys said. Mike basically said, you know, when Randy came back, they played the same position, so uh, it's a it's a numbers thing. Unfortunately, they

said it's nothing he's done wrong in practice, he's practiced well. Uh. I didn't get the same vibe when when Mike Nolan was asked about Reggie Robinson yesterday, he talked about how, um, let me give you the quote. I wish we actually had the cut, but he said, um, you know, he just needs to continue to practice, work hard, and when his opportunity strikes, he needs to answer the bell, which good,

we will. Yeah, that's not good. That's good. That sounds like I mean and we're reading the lines, but that sounds like you're not seeing enough on the on the field. The other thing, the other thing that Mike Nolan said though, was that they're working him at corner and safety. And I know that Mike McCarthy has said since training camp they want their dbs to be able to play everywhere. But but you know, if you have a rookie that that a draft pick coming in who played corner his

entire college career. Uh, maybe maybe pick one and let him get comfortable one thing. Maybe that's maybe that's you know, affecting his development a little bit. I don't know. Stephen Jones was on the fan yesterday and said, look, just remember Tristan Hill. We talked about the same stuff with Tristan Hill last year, and look how he developed. So

give him time. He might very well developing him. I could talk to that because when I got drafted by the Cowboys, I was a quarterback and I came in and I show up and I was still injured, and by the time I touched the field, it was camp and they didn't have time to teach me how to play receiver. They didn't have time. They had to get guys ready, right, had to get te O ready, Terry Glenn, you know, you know Patrick Crayden, you know Sam her Miles Ass and all these guys. All these guys had

to get ready to play in the game. They didn't have time to be teaching the rookie how to play receiver. So a lot of that stuff I had to try to figure out on my own. So if he is, you know, obviously he's coming in as a safety. But he's playing, you know, coming in as a corner and going too safety. It's a it's a whole new it's a whole new area, right. A lot of peoples like, oh,

it's still just a secondary. It's totally different. Your reads are different, your eyes are different, your rank, you're you know, you're you're space, you're you're where you're adding space or pro reception, all that stuff is different. So um, you know, give Hi, give him some time, give him some time. It'll come around. But you know they don't. They didn't have the offseason to give him reps to get more

comfortable there. But when your coach tells you you need to answer to Bill when when your numbers call it, that sounds like he's probably laying an egg in practice somewhere. Yeah, I talked to UM. I talked to Reggie's position coach at Tulsa a few months back, Aaron Fletcher, and he said, I mean he was I think he was a safety in high school, but yeah, he was a he was their top corner. Like go go just whoever the best

receiver is, go cover him and shut him down. Cortland, Sudden, whoever it was in that conference he's a corner, you know, and so if you're trying to convert him to safety, I think that's probably part of it. But yeah, you know you've got to heck, you said it. I mean, you gotta do enough in practice to where the coaches trust you, and that probably is not the case. Shit, And I think that's where I'm frustrated because with Bradley and I kind of get it right, You kind of

get it because there's people in front of you. Either, there's other guys. There's Randy Gregory, there's Dorn's Armstrong, There's guys there. So if he's not getting snaps, then it's because those other guys are earning those snaps. But with Reggie Robinson, like Isaiah said, we're going out to rob Pe Island to grab a guy. I mean, we were a couple. We were one more strained calf away from putting the team manager out there to play corner. So

why is Reggie Robinson last on that list? That's just where I have that confusion, And like you said, maybe it is. I mean that's pretty uh, that's pretty worrisome. Hearing from Mike Nolan saying that he has to take advantage whenever those opportunities pop up, because I mean, that's coach peak for saying he hasn't taken advantage, you know,

but yeah, absolutely right. But you know when you're playing a game such as we just played where you where you blow a team out like that, and you you you know you can afford a couple of plays like even though you're playing a soft show defense anyway, guess what you play corner, Get out there, play there, get out there. I can say there's times in a game where they threw me out there at gunner. They threw me out there at all different positions and I've never played,

ever played. I can remember playing in a play playing for New England, playing against the dog on Saints, and we're in there in that place as rocking as you guys can imagine, and somebody somebody got hurt and they're like, I said, here, get in there, get in there on the front line a kickoff return. I'm like, I've never even taking one repid practice in this he So they showed me a piece of paper, They're like, hey, do

this right here. I'm like, all right, so I'll run out there, and a guess you run out there and guess what. I went out there and I handled and I did exactly what I was supposed to do. So guess what I played the rest of the year. Do you hit a guy? You know what I'm saying, Get not just I mean, i had never in my life taking a rep and I'm playing on the front line a kickoff return. It's hard usually as a kickoff returner, right, but playing on the front line a kickoff return I was.

I was because of my size and my speed. I could be a returner, I could be in a front line, I could whatever. So they put me on a front line on that play and I had to run back set my feed. There's a lot of technique that's associated with playing that position. It's hard. It's not like that NFL now where seventy eighty percent of the kicks go out the end zone. This was every every kick was dating there being returned and I made I made the play right. I do what I was supposed to do.

I did my assignment, do your job, nothing special, just did my job. And from that one play that I had never practiced before, I played that the rest of the year. So you know, put him out there. So what he's so what he hasn't handy reps at corner this year. Guess where that's what he did. That's what's his DNA. If you're blows a team out, throw him out there, let's see what he has. Let's just see him compete. They didn't even see him compete. Yeah, that's all.

That's called answering the bill. That's called answering. The bill said, yeah, answer the bell. And I just don't think that this coaching staff has the confidence that he will answer the bell. I mean, you think about the quarterback position, and you said it in a blowout? What could possibly go wrong if you're in zone coverage and your guy goes across the field and a crossing route, you know to stay in your zone. You've been playing that since high school? Right, No,

I don't know that. There has to be some other things going on, And I think in the off season will have a better opportunity to evaluate this player. True, And when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, we're gonna talk about the potential and the percentage that the Cowboys could win out and get back to seven wins. And maybe Reggie Robinson's a part of that. Maybe Bradley and I is probably not. We're probably not gonna see them if we didn't see him against Cincinnati, so my

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want a percentage from you guys. What is the percentage that the Cowboys win out the final three games of the season San Francisco Sunday, New York next week, and then we've got Philadelphia coming up or excuse me, I flipped those Philadelphia's next week and then New York to round out the season. But what is the percentage that the Cowboys went out? And then I want a second percentage, what's the percentage that they win to division which means

that Washington would have to lose out as well. And this is just to get a gauge going into the rest of the week in our preparation of San Francisco and kind of how we're looking at things and maybe even from a coaching staff conversation standpoint. But heck no, We're gonna start with you. Where is your percentage right now in terms of the Cowboys winning out and winning to the division. I'm standing in Tostito's plaza right now, going back to the FunTown RV. Man. That's it's a

tough one. Um. I don't have a lot of faith that we win out. It just I just don't. And I feel like the other teams they have so much more to be playing for. UM. So I mean I give it, oh god, man, like twenty five percent. I'm just I'm just throwing out a number on that to win out no to to no? Yeah, okay division? Yeah, okay, Well I was asking for two separate numbers there. But that's okay, Isaiah, where are you going? Where are you going with on this one? I'll take thirty three percent

and five percent? Sir? Okay, okay, explain your reasoning. Uh thirty three percent, I think we win one of those three games, um, and then uh five five percent because if we if we do win, uh you know, a game or two. I don't think I don't see any of all those other teams losing out I don't see Washington, in New York and Philly all just losing out. So the chances are really slammed that will win win a division.

What's the game that we would win out of those three? Philadelphia, really that would have probably been the one, one of the ones that I would say that you wouldn't win, especially if Jalen Hurts still plays the way that he played last week. Yeah, I think they find a way. They find a way. I think they I think they're they're discontent. Their displeasure of the Giants will will carry

them through. Okay, okay, Rob I went to a M so I don't I'm not good with percentages, but I would say, um, you know, I think they got a chance to win two out of three. I really do. I think they can win their last two division games. Um. I don't see New York is is playing better, but from a from just a personnel standpoint, I don't. I don't look at their roster and say they can't beat

that team. Um. Same with Philly especially. I think Jalen Hurts. Definitely, Jalen Hurts has given them a spark though, so they might be a very different team in two weeks. The San Francisco game I worry about because the way they run the football no matter who's back there, So that's gonna be And when Mike Nolan said yesterday that their scheme is like Cleveland scheme, like Washington scheme, I'm like,

oh boy, okay, well see how that goes. But look, they took a step forward last week, So we'll see what was the percentage on the second one, just winning the division? Just winning the division. I'll go with Isaiah like five percent. Like all all it takes is one win by Washington and if and if Alex Smith is going to be back and healthy, I like their chances of winning another game. They're starting to put it together. Defensively,

they look pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty incredible to see what kind of defensive fronts that the NFC East is kind of putting together. And I'm gonna ask the question tomorrow because I think we need more time on this, but is the defensive fronts that we've seen from Philadelphia that dominated New Orleans on Sunday, from Washington that we've seen all year? And then also, I mean New York's defensive front is not not too shabby as well. And I'm going to ask the question tomorrow is this in

retaliation or not retaliation? But is this an adjustment made by the other divisional opponents to what our offensive line looked like previously, in what the Cowboys had as an offensive line in the past. And so we're gonna talk about that a little bit tomorrow. But that's gonna do for us here on Talking Cowboys on this Tuesday. So glad you've been with us here over the last forty five minutes, make sure and join us again tomorrow nine thirty.

We'll take a look at the offense of San Francisco and how they've been faring over the last couple of weeks and how they could go up against this Cowboys defense that maybe getting some guys back this week, and we'll talk about that as well. But for Heck Harrison, for Rob Phillips and isaiahs dan Back, as well as Chris beam Back at the Star holding Down the Fort on Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. We'll see you next time on Talking Cowboys.

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