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Talkin' Cowboys: Rivalry Renewed

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The Cowboys-Washington rivalry has always had an edge to it, and this week is no different. The crew discusses Mike McCarthy’s comments from Thursday, expressing confidence about Sunday’s game. Plus, bold predictions with a special guest.

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The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys This he's Talking Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Howhours at the Star in Frisco to the live Scott and Now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's It is a say It with your Chest Friday here on Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos, helping fans get in on the game and our favorite chip

and our favorite tip on Talking Cowboys. I'm gonna carve it up on Friday, baby cheek game. It is my cheat breakfast. Who would you have? I'm about to go get McDonald's. Oh kissing my cheap break dog? You doing this than I deny myself mids McDonald's breakfaters, water burger, water waterer. You mean water burger, right? You mean water burger all the way through? Right? Yes? Yeah, that's what I thought, all right. I like the idea though, Get you a little cheap breakfast and you'll get you a

honey butter chicken biscuit. Yeah, that stuff's good. Yeah, like their pancakesketo. Yeah, pancakes, pancakes. I've never had the tiquido, but the honey butter biscuit. No, it's underrated. When I used to run these streets, I used to go to about three o'clock in the morning. Yeah, give me a pancake platter. Oh yeah, those are good too. That's that. That's the after after after Chris in the back, I can hear. I could hear the insulting side of Chris's

voice because he's like, you've never had a takedo? And I agree with them. They're Tiketo's are awesome. They are awesome, So you should try on Chris sounds anything after eleven o clock taketo is great. Yeah, it's just soaking up other stuff. Sound that is all Paul, that you hadn't had a taketo. He's her mom with the hell to me a favorite. Everybody out there just tweet at heck my hair. Don't do that, Chris, don't do that. I'm just looking, man. I'm doing my best here. I'm telling

you the honeybutter biscuits. I'm a creature of habit. It's so good. Glad to have Rob Phillips back today. Thank you Little vacation. This I really shout out to all the stay at home moms out here and dad's soccer dad for two days and look at you. He got the shadow going on like you do. Hell, I'm looking for the mister Mom theme song. Too many, too many, a lot of diapers everything. You know what, you kind of miss it, Honestly, you're at work and you're not

around the kid. Even even the even the smell. I don't miss the stink either. I used to going there like taw wrapped around my face. Oh yeah, Oh man, you see those nose. I smell everything, dude, that's funny. They used to tear me up. What you see you, Yeah, especially those ones. It's like it's on your neck. It's not supposed to be like that was an explosion, robbed the whole baby. When your daughter ends up using the bathroom by herself, it's a game changer. Bro. We're trying.

I mean, I'm telling you, we're trying. We're trying. But Chris will explain it's more than the game. It's a game change in more ways than one. Yeah, all right, you're gonna keep pushing right now. Has no idea. He's like, what are you talking about ye say that guy. We believe his girlfriend today she's gonna be okay cool, that's that's good. No, No, I wasn't. So that's awesome. I want to give a shout out to South Olcliffe High School that's going to visit the Semis. I believe it's

a state championship. Now, No, it's not the championship? Is it the Semis to tonight? Yes? Yes, South Oakcliffe High School, y'all got it going on. Look, could be the first Dallas independent school to win a state title in sixty years. Wow. So it's awesome, man, Cinder love the South oak Cliff High School. This morning, mar Sails and Overton Row stand up. That's awesome. Nice South Oakcliffe. The Golden Bears, big Golden Bears, trying to be golden again. They are a really good

football team, so that's gonna be exciting to watch. And the high school ranks. Of course, the state championships held at and T Stadium, and there's a lot of good games gonna be going on here in a couple of weeks. I know you mentioned we're getting Lorena on the high school or on the on the show. Today there's Lorena High school in down in Waco. That's going to the state champion That's where my wife went, Is it really? Yeah? Yeah? There you going? So I watched the game. Yeah, they're

going to the state title game. Yeah, the first time in a long time. I think Lorena is going. So there you got. Yeah. Chris is on point today, Mario drop. Chris is saying it with your chest, Robo. This is a pleasure of me to finally get to do for the first time in three days news and notes. What's going on in Cowboys name? You got this? My god? Where do you want to start? Exactly where do we want to Let's start with Mike McCarthy and Ron Rivera. You want to set with injuries? What do you want

to start? Start with injuries? Then I want to have a conversation about Mike McCarthy Ron Rivera. Okay, well, I mean actually the injury report for the Cowboys looks fairly clean this week, with a couple exceptions. Um Tony Pollard not practicing for two straight days now. He told us yesterday he would be likely a game time decision Sunday, and he said when he that last tackle he broke on the fifty eight yard touchdown. He I don't know if you've had this injury, Isaiah, He felt a little

teared his player of fascia, which fasis. That is very painful. You don't know if you've had it too. But so we'll see on that um that that's the biggest injury of note for the Cowboys this week, and obviously Zeke's still playing through it. Mike McCarthy said yesterday he felt like both guys would play, but Tony Pollard does not practice this week, so we'll see plane or frasciaitis. I'm no good no. He said in the interview that like the fact that you tear it all the way through

it actually heals quicker. That made no sense to me. Makes zero sense to me either, because it's an irritating thing. It's like it's a it's like a irritant. It's like rubbing, right, So it's like this tending and it gets very very inflame. So if you tear it through it and then you don't have to really deal with irritation exactly. So that's actually a benefit. But people who have plan a frasciatus, there's a lot of just regular citizens out there to

have plan a fasciat. It sucks. I've never personally had it, but I see the pain on people's faces that are dealing with it, and it's one of those things that just stays with you. You got to calm that that thing now. So the fact that he hasn't practiced for two days makes sense. The fact that he's a game time decision. Yeah, it will be that. I want to say, Terrence knew him and Tenu did the same thing. It was like partially torn, and they did say that it's

actually better to tear it. It's almost like sometimes it's better to break a bone than sprain something. Yeah, because you know it's gonna heal and all that stuff. So we'll see. Also, Noah Brown on IR, Yeah, so is it the semi show this week? I don't know. Cedric Wilson is back to practice on a limited basis, so maybe he can go this week. So those are the two think when you go IR at this point, are you done for the year. No, it's a it's a three game minimum still, and Mike said maybe a couple

of weeks, So it's gonna be three weeks okay. And then obviously you know Randy and Neville Gallimore have continued to practice this week on IR, so that's pointing towards you would think being activated this weekend. That's a COVID change, right, because it used to be that way, whereas this late in the season, it was the end of the year for you if you were on IR. But now that

it's it's an unlimited IR. Yeah you can. You can do it all the way for the three weeks, all the way through, right, Yeah, and you still got what five five weeks left in the season, four four after this week? Yeah? Got you? Isaiah, do you have a question? I just want to know what happened to Noah Brown. It's a groin injury. I'm not sure how it happened, but must have happened in the game. Those suck no fun at all. All right, let's talk about Mike McCarthy.

This is another example of our show going early. We just missed something that's like the story of the day, man, I know, and we also get talked about it. We get the pros and cons, we get to go first after wins and losses and stuff like that. But that would have been fun to talk about, but now we get to talk about it on Say It with your chest Friday, because that's exactly what Mike McCarthy did. He said it with his chest, and Chris Beam's got a

cute up in the back. Here is Mike McCarthy and his press conference yesterday, a virtually guaranteeing the Cowboys getting a win over the Washington football team. We know what people think of us. We love that. We're comfortable who we are where we are. But I'm excited about what's in front of us because you know, we you know, we're gonna win this game. I'm confident in that and just you know the prep that's going into it. But more importantly, we're gonna you know, we want to improve

too along the way. So I think that's all part about what the challenge of December of football gid you. We are going to win this game. I'm confident in that. That's the quote that everybody has taken. Everybody's run with it. I think it wasn't supposed to be a guarantee as much as it was a confidence meter from Mike McCarthy, but I like it either way. I kind of wanted to be a guarantee we're gonna score. Yeah. So back wow,

So breaking up trauma. Are you okay over there? No, there's a dude that coaches the DVS on there's somebody had a part of that. So what do you think about that, Isaiah? I like it internally. I like it internally just because of the fact that you know, things like that situation I just I just mentioned can come back and bite you. I have no problem with his confidence.

I have no problem with it at all. It's you know, it's some some organizations like you to come out, I come out to jump out of the cake, as he will say, and say that and kind of make that announcement. I'm sure he said that internally, which is not an issue, but when you can pronounce that to the masses, it can be perceived as a negative thing. But I like the confidence. I'm just not sure that I would want

my head coach run it around saying that. No, we talked a little bit about coaching beefs over the years, and we haven't had any coaching beefs. And I love the fact that Rivera responded immediately. I've been looking for that Buddy Ryan Jimmy Johnson kind of thing going on, and we don't have it anymore. But I will say this. I love the confidence of Mike McCarthy and he can't when either way it goes. If someone had ask him, you're guarantee to win this way, he didn't answer. All

he doesn't have confidence in the squad. So it's a catch twenty two around here. You love him when he doesn't. You know, everything he does is under the microscope. But when he says something bold, you know, oh he should never Who is he to say to guarantee? Coaches over the years have guaranteed wins. Jimmy Johnson has done that before. I mean, hell, you think about boxing Muhammad Alisa, I'm

gonna knock you out in around four. So, I mean, look, sometimes your mouth can write a check that your ass can't, but it draws. Hey. But when you hey, but when you got it, when you got the bulty to back it up. And when we go through that, when we go through the airport terminal, what we fly private anyway, Look, there's gonna be a lot of there's gonna be a lot of metal detecting going off, man, because we're coming. Just bring your baby wipes, yeah, whatever you gotta bring,

bring your hard hat, whatever you gotta do. It's gonna be a regardless. If he said that it was gonna be a battle regardless, it was gonna be that regardless. And I mean, I'm apologize I missed a what a River saying response. I got it right here. It is from Clarence Hill on Twitter responding yesterday. I think it was an in house media interview. He said, quote, he's trying to get in our head. He's trying to convince his team. He's now made it about him and that

and what he said. It's not about his players anymore. I think it's a big mistake. We will show up on Sunday and see what happens from about it. And Mike was asked about Ron's comments this morning on the Fan, and I'm paraphrasing, but he said, basically, what kind of what Ron said, Like it's irrelevant what's being said about our team, Like he didn't seem to care. So this is why I like pro wrestling gas Right, It's more fun when there's a little bit of an edge, just

sucking boxing or whatever. That just added an edge to this. If you if you need, if you needed anything extra for me, I just think it's it's all about having games in December with implications on things on the line. Yeah, and it's not like you're you're not playing for nothing, and so both teams know where they are. You have a team that's fighting tooth and nail to get back in this thing, and you have a team that has been dominating from the first part of the season that's

trying to get back to the dominating way. So I really believe if you look at this rivalry, if you want to call it that, over the years, it's been contentious the whole way through. It wouldn't it matter what he said? Yeah, I mean even going back to last year and the dominant dominance that Washington had. I think there's a little bit of discontent from the Cowboys side there. Who has the confidence advantage coming into this game? That's

a great question. One team's won four straight, like Hackma said, and the other team has been winning it. We got the confidence in what you talk. We got the confidence advantage is zail. It's us. I got Dax quote what Dax say? What Dack said? You got a bleep ready for it? Go for it? Prison? That was it? Oh belief? Yeah, yes, yeah, yes, yeah? Oh man. So but that I mean, that's a that's A valid question is what's this needed from Mike McCarthy.

Was this sentence, I mean, words have powerful, They're very powerful. Wasn't needed to light that fire? For him to say that in front of the media is saying, hey, we do need an edge going into this matchup because of the edge that Washington already has. I like, I like to cook on a grill. Even though I'm vegetarian now, I still like to get on the grill, and it's a lot easier to start cooking when you got a firestarter.

You know, it's a lot easier when instead of just putting some paper in there on all that jazz, when you got a firestarter that gets things going relatively quickly. I think that's exactly what he was trying to be for this team right now. I think he was trying to be the firestarter to get the Dallas Cowboys repped repped up for this NFC East run because he understands how important these next games are. We've been talking a week about matching intensity, knowing that Washington is going to

come after us like they did last year. It was what we could not do last year. A twenty twenty could not match their intensity and this is the time, obviously, if we want to take that next step and we'll talk about games with implications and looking into the playoffs. You got a match intensity this, you gotta ramp it up and it's time for that. Mike said something yesterday to the fact also of like we know what everybody

thinks of us. It's kind of it was in us against the world type of message he was he was saying, and he said on the radio that it wasn't like a planned thing that for him to say that. Yesterday he said, there were a lot of big picture questions being asked and I wasn't. I wasn't in the room, but the vibe I got when I watched it back was there's a lot of questions, specifically about the offense not being able to run effectively enough wide receivers not

getting separation. And I'm not saying he got defensive necessarily, but it was almost like, yeah, like hey, hang on a sec, like we are that team still. He felt like it was necessary to put that message through the media. It's very interesting. I mean, Jason Garrett would have never know. That's why I think it really kind of surprised people a little bit and I don't think he was being disrespect back, but he was sure as hell. I can't think of confidence coaching. What coach right now would have

said something like that. I would say some of these younger head coaches out there, McVeigh wouldn't have said it. McVey, I bet you McVeigh would say, that's known the lights and fires every now and she says it, Who would you say? I can't think of anything. I can't either. No, That's why that's for me as i'm as I'm digested. He's the one guy that if he if he said that you, oh, no, he would never. He would never.

I mean he Mike Tomlin's I see him saying it either, say Chris, I was gonna say he was asked after that question about guaranteeing and win. McCarthy was and he basically said, he goes. You guys, you realize I go into every game thinking we're gonna win the game. So that's just my mente. And that's a good point, Chris, because some of it's semantics. He put it in. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't Jimmy Johnson. Johnson and he has said forms of that in the past, like we're going

in expecting to win this game. But that was yeah, it was say it was pretty matter of fact, it was guarantee, it was. And I mean then their whole field, like their whole coaching foundation this year is around victory. I mean that you see that word everywhere around here. So that's why someone's the difference between having internal conversations and external conversation just two separate things. See. But that's why I'm saying, I think this is this was on purpose.

Even though he said it wasn't planned, I still think it was on perfect so too, because you don't you don't the coaches as we as I asked that question, what other coaches would come out and say that, you wouldn't, right, not most coaches wouldn't. It's very I think it was intentional. I think it was intentional. I don't know, I don't know if I think. I mean, I feel like it's intentional, but I feel like I feel like it was a response, like a reaction. Yeah, I feel I feel like, you know,

somebody's pressure question. He didn't go into a saying I'm gonna say this, but he was just like, hey man, you're too close. Fine, you know you know, just think I think that was his response, like, bro, enough is enough, like get up off me? And by the way, though, I think those are fair questions, like asking about the offense, asking about why they haven't gotten things rolling a little bit.

It's a it's a it's a weird kind of vibe around this team, not internally, but just the fact that they're eight and four, but they haven't played well to their standard the last six weeks since the buy basically not especially offensively, not to what they think they can be. They're the most under They're the most underestimated eight and four team in the league right now. There are a ton of teams out there that are eight and four that everybody is like, oh my god, you know they're

gonna make a run there. I mean, we're not. The only way is that though. I mean it's just the haters. I mean, we got plenty of people that's gonna hate on the Cowboys no matter what they do. Tampa's lost to the football team. Nobody's saying, oh that that's a tail tail sign that Tom Brady's not ready. You know, nobody jumped out of the cake with that win. So but I think it inconsistencies. I really do think it

goes back to the inconsistencies. And when when Tampa loses like that and Tom Brady has a has a three interception game, it's like, no, well he doesn't do that. But you know what I'm saying, like that TV twelve doesn't do that, so that you can gotta right benefit of the doubt. Benefit of the doubt absolutely because of his history. But right when doesn't get that? This team does not get that. But why when you why I

haven't shown that consistently? When why when you go through a six game winning street and you and you wait a minute, and you beat and you beat New England? Who is the toast of the town right now? When you have players right when you have everything statistically as far as your offense is top ten and still all Dax out of rhythm, tacks hurt. This is that the number one, number two and scoring in yards, How the hell can you be conflicted about that? The proof is

in the place. So that's when you start to have to ask the question, are you are you comparing ia say comparing, are you holding your your standards to the rest of the league, or you're holding your standards to what you have going on within your organization. That's why I'm not a big stat guy, because I don't give a dog on what everybody else is doing. I don't I don't care what everybody else to do. I care about what I know my team is capable of executing.

And if they're not executing to that standard, then they're not meeting my standards for my team, regardless of what everybody else is doing. That's like, that's see, that's a sports psycho ologies that you know. It's blinders all and I get that, right, But you are judged by who everybody that's around you, and no matter what these guys say,

they're looking around at the rest of the league. You can control what you can control, right, That's what most coaches talk about, But you're only judge based off of the teams that are around you know, and I'm saying the Cowboys are in that tier. You can't just say, oh, they're eighting for but then here's here's December like they used to December stretches coming. The Cowboys will implode. Nobody's saying that they're not even coaching are are speaking about

that around here in the community. I feel like their confidence levels should be high. They should feel like, right now, we have a schedule, we have a team that's getting healthy and blinders on damn what everybody else say. We're gonna go out here. We're gonna beat the brakes off

of everybody that step in front of us. And I think that's what made this so explosive for Mike McCarthy is that one of those blinders came down for a flip second in front of the media and the bubble pop. Let it, let it go, and everybody got to hear it. And Ron Rivera of course picked it up as well. It's a fun conversation to have though, because man, it

does add an edge to this matchup. No, I want to see the eye contact between those guys across the field before the game, hand train stare down have like the offensive liners and defensive mine. Right, Yeah, Mike mccarthell row run vera ride with my coach, saying with your chats at while I like it. All right, let's take our first break when we come back, let's continue previewing this matchup. Ro Pee Island gives his ideas on what's going to happen on Sunday when we return with more

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go ahead the show. Heck, I look at a profile. You don't have yours. Now I don't have it with me. You don't have your truck efficiently. Here we go. Here we goes very nice streamline. That's me right here. Okay, that's that's my streamline. Okay, nice, I have everything packed in there, and then it would be Kyle. But then we come straight over to the Encyclopedia town scale man six point five profile on that thing is Jesus. And

guess what. You can have a fat wallet just like Rob if you go join Caliber Collision just like and get that money. Go get that bread money. Professional guys, a profession Yeah, that goes yeah uh real quickly before we get into our second segment here do you want to send our condolences and our thoughts and our prayers horrific news Last night, Marius Thomas Thomas, former wide receiver for the Denver Broncos, played with the Texans for a little bit as well. Uh passed away at the age

of thirty three. Was in the NFL for ten seasons, and he was just that. He was a star. And he passed away way too young last night at his home. So wanted to pass that along in our thoughts and prayers. I mean, he was a monster receiver. He was as good as they come. Yeah, he was. He came in kind of around the same time as does and it was kind of they were two of the very top receivers in the league. Two the most explosive receivers in the league. It's just it's just awful news. Did you

get a chance to play against them at all? Yeah, yeah, I play against something. He's an amazing athlete. I just hate I hate seeing these stories. You know, the older I get, the more the more of these stories to come across, and just it just sucks. Man. Yea, what do you think about the barriers? I mean, obviously, uh going too soon, Uh young, still with so much life ahead of him. What I really admired about his story was him and his mother. If you have time to

what he did with getting his mother released from prison. Um, so, you know, outstanding story. Outstanding person, but gone too soon. And that's why it's important to live your life every day. That's why it's important man to just you know, do what's right and be good to people. Man, we got too much stuff like this happening. And when you know stuff like this happens, it makes you reflect on everything

that you're doing. Yep, cherish every single day and of course, don't hold grudges, have some fun, and of course live your life and be nice to other people. I love that. That's a great message. And Damarius Thomas, gone too soon. Let's talk about this matchup. Rob, you haven't been here the last couple of days, so I wanted to give you an opportunity to kind of talk about this Washington matchup.

Which one do you think is more imperative to a Cowboys win, the Cowboys offense or the Cowboys defense having the success against the vice versa. I think it just comes down to the offense getting back on track. And you know, Washington has found a way to win these games lately ugly, and I just kind of see that happening again, kind of an ugly game where you know the Cowboys are gonna have They're gonna be challenged again

to run the football. I think defensively they're giving up an average of like four point one yards a carry, and that's what the Cowboys have average per carry the last six games when they've struggled to run the football under one hundred yards. Now. They took a step forward against the Saints with a couple of big plays, but between the tackles it hasn't been there. Can they get that established in this game maybe the most important thing, and I don't know if I didn't get to listen

to all the show the last two days. To me, it might just be can they get things going on the outside in the passing game and throw teams out of that the looks that they're getting the game that's being lost during the stretch is the fact that they won by forty points against the Falcons and they didn't run the ball that well in that game, but they threw the hell out of the ball in that game.

And if they can get back to that, especially with all three receivers back playing full snaploads, that might be

what's the most key to getting Bacco trek. Well you think about that, man, I think you spot on and just in piggybacking on that, if you had listened to the Amark Cooper Show yesterday, Amark Cooper alluded to the fact that these three receivers hadn't had any time together, saying that the time that we had has been limited, whether it be through injuries or just not a full slate there to just kind of judge these guys together. So I'm excited to see them healthy together and what

they can do. I think that there's going to be a lot of opportunity, like you just said, on the outside with the Washington football team. But I also believe that because you're playing this team so close together, you're going to have to establish the line of scrimmage. That's just the physicality of this game. You cannot I just don't believe that you can go into this game saying that we're gonna throw the ball fifty times. You've got to be physical upfront and run the ball to a fault.

Nobody wants to hear that, but you've got to get this thing established, not on the outside, but inside the tackles. You've got to get it established. Totally agree. I agree that's that's sounds good. It sounds good, but I don't know the health of Zeke right now. The last time we saw Zeke, he did not look good. We did, he did not look good. He's had ten He's gonna have ten days off by the time the game approaches,

so hopefully he's a lot healthier than he was. But if Zeke is the same as what he was the last time we saw him, and there is a high probability that there's no TP, where does the run game come from in reality? So I think you go into this game thinking that we want to try to get the run game going, but understanding that the reality is we're probably going to throw this ball fifty times in

order to win this ball game. We've talked about establishing the run being a key to winning this football game, and of course it is. But do you think having those three wide receivers healthy again, Yes, can outweigh the limitations that you might have in your backfield with not so healthy Zeke not so healthy policy. It can because

your your receivers are better than their dbs. That's facts. However, every time you put the ball in the air, there's a higher probability of you having a turnover than it is when you have the ball in the hands of one of your running backs, so that's also a reality. So I don't like the idea of throwing the ball fifty times because three turnovers. Two three turnovers changed the tide to the game. So I would like to see a running game. And I don't know about Corey Clemmons.

I don't know. I haven't seen him running the ball in a while. I'm sure he's fully capable, but I'm pretty sure we'll see him and we'll have an idea of what he can do. And in this game. Does it make you feel any better that Dak has sixteen touchdowns and just one interception against the Washington football team in his career. Like I said, past tense means nothing. Yeah, test help you feel a little bit better. He's dominated

Washington in the past. He has, But again, Dak has not been dack since he came back from the calf, so he's got He still has a show his team first of all, show his team that he is capable of making the throws that everybody knows that he's capable of making. And he and just the flashes that we saw last week. Is it's not good enough? It's not? Yeah? Yeah,

If it's if it's let's say Tony does play. If it's you know, fifty yards for Tony forty five physique, you've established a running game to me, and especially with the way that we've been passing the ball. When you say established the run. When I say established the running game, I'm not saying one hundred, fifty hundred and seventy yards or what Dalvin Cook did last night with two hundred and five yards. I love that, you know, and it makes everything else that you do so much easier. That's

all on pimportant too. To those we've been coming in here every Monday talking about how bad they've been on third down. Third down has not been our friend. But that means we have to be better on first down and we have to be better on second down. Well, how do you do that? And Kellen Moore has gotten a little bit out of rhythm with his play calling, and I would like to attribute that to the with the injuries that they have. Now you have everybody back,

what's going to be the excuse? Now you have to put something together. Otherwise teams will just pinning their ears back and come after you if they recognize, oh, you can't do anything to us in a running game. So as soon as we get here on Monday, if it is indeed a Cowboys loss, which we'll talk about that in the next segment, whether we think that's happening, is that going to be the conversation is what is the

excuse now for Kellen Moore? Because, like you said, I agree with you by the way, I think you get these three receivers back, and you have them healthy in the same practice for a week at a time, ten days at a time. Now you have an opportunity to throw them out there and it's not just a thrown together thing. I think they will have a large impact on this game. You saw how they could have an

impact against the Saints. But it does worry me how limited Zeke Impollard could be because I feel like from that playbook that Kellen Moore has, it's this big shrinks a little bit whenever those two guys aren't what they usually are. Yeah, but if the offensive line to x point can get some win the line of scrimmage and be physical and open things up, it doesn't necessarily matter

who's running back there. I mean. And that's look, they've they've had all these different combinations since the bye week, and I think they're still looking for the right combination there. You know, change out left guard, right tackle has been a rotation. It hasn't been the same you know since early in the season, you know, pass blocking or run blocking. And I think that's affected DAC little bit as well. Um, so they got to get back to that. I go

back to the Monday Night game. What Mac Jones throw it three times in that game? Three they just and what the first touchdown they had it was a long touchdown run. Ten guys for the Bills were in the box, and they still they blocked it up because all it takes is one guy out of his gap, you know, to get it going. So they just got to get back to that. And they've talked about, look, we have to be better. We're not handling the movement by the

defensive line as well. They've got to block it up better. They've said that themselves. That's that's running to a fault the Monday Night game. That's what I'm saying. Time, We're not gonna stop running it. You can't stop us. We will get a hat on a hat m I like that idea, all right, before we head to this final break and we go to our pickums. We have some

housekeeping to do. Rob Phillips last week picked the New York Giants on this show to beats who was at the Saints that they played, Dolphins the Dolphins that they played. He beat the New York Giants. However, he did send a text message prior to kick off, old prior to kick off, wanting to flip that game. Now. He also wanted to change the Cowboys pick. We didn't let him do that. If you say the Cowboys pick off, it's

locked in played either way, you're fine. Yeah, but the fact that you brought up that you wanted to switch your pick once they figured out the Daniel Daniel Jones was not available. I wanted to leave it up to you guys. Heck my already gave his answer. It's a big exactly that's what that's what you said message. But oh, are we going to allow Rob to take that game back? So that's a no, Chris, you'll be the deciding factor, yes or no? Take them No, I'm listening, I'm about

to make a phone call. Yes. Um, so yeah, he could take the game back. Oh, Chris, what are you talking about? How can he take that he was, he's locked in. Once. We're locked in right here, guys, this is locked Also pick games on like Tuesday last week. You know what I will. I will concede you conceed, but I will say that that made a big difference. It does make a big difference. But hey, you know whatever. Yeah, I'll make it up. I'll make it up about that.

Staying with your chest my guarantee. That's my guarantee for the week. I like it's this week. Okay. So, now that it has been decided that Rob Phillips does not get that game back, there is a three way tie for second place in our standings. We're gonna talk about it when we come back here. I'm talking cowboys. I want to use what the pros use. How about the official men's skincare brand of the Dallas Cowboys, Jack Black.

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And whether you're watching from home or you're cheering in the stands with lens is, you can see every exciting play book, an appointment edge of local or experts, and see what esse Lord can do for you. See more, do more? Or on Talking Cowboys. Oh he hasn't written down? Yes, Oh I see you? What do you think? Heck? I got props? That was at last I was Magic Johnson knocking it out of there. Yeah, Oh that's awesome. All right, I can't be graceful with that. It's okay, I'm gonna

go watch the film. Okay, we'll get it. Go Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back. We've got heck My Harrison, Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's let's give our quick standings update for the Talking Cowboys pick him this year. We now have a three way tie, completely even across the board. For second place. Isaiah had another good week last week, four and two. Well you may hey, you bringing up the rear doubt. You're back at an even

five hundred though you bring up the rear doubt. I was always an anchor on the relay team coming home strong, got five weeks left, five weeks. Steph you went, You went four and two. You were now thirty seven and thirty seven overall. Quick. Yeah, maybe we need to maybe we need to make something happen, but we can still make it happen, all right. Second place tied with Rob the Fans heck Bam all forty two and thirty two

the Rob separation time. Rob and the Fans went three and three last week and Heckma went four and two. Another good week for heck Ma Harrison and then I'm at the top forty six and twenty eight. I had pick for him five and one five in one week. Last week, welcome to the show. Five games back. Well, yeah you're getting there. Welcome to the show. My girlfriend Lorena. Everybody, hello, hello,

hell yeah. How's it going. So this came up earlier in the week that you were going to represent the fans because basically at a conversation, it was like, we need to just get her on the show. So we got her on the show. She's gonna represent the fans. Last week, Kyle and Jersey went two and four, No, no, no, number one. He went three and three overall, So a pretty decent week for Kyle in Jersey. But Lorena, you've got six games that you're gonna have to pick. What's up?

I say, think we should put stipulation on this. Why is it? I feel as if because they spend so much time together, I feel as if they should not be allowed to agree on fifty percent or more of the games today gotta go half and half. I like that because you because you believe that Kyle has prepped her. Yea, I actually honestly all yeah, Actually I texted her the games last night, and I have not talked to her

about it at all. Okay, but if we're in a Zigs, you got a Zach at least at least at the time. So three games, I've got to go different than than Lorena. Okay, Okay. So that so Lorena is picking before me on every single occasion this week. So that's how we're gonna do it, all right, Lorena, you will start first on this one. Let's start with the let me pull up the game. Sorry, everybody, keep tabs busy, keeping the tabs. All right, Let's start

with the Raiders at the Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium. Patrick Mahomes and company taken on Derek Carr No Waller again for Las Vegas. Lorena, who you guy? I am definitely picking the Chiefs. They're on their five game winning shriek and I think that clearly they're the better team and they're definitely going to hand Vegas a fifth loss in six games. Go Patrick Mahomes. She I'm telling you, she knows her stuff. All right. I'm gonna take the Chiefs here as well. So there's one of my three games,

I'm taking that one. I'm gonna take the Chiefs here. Probably gotta go Chiefs Pat Mahomes. Okay, I'm gonna make a game up here because because Vegas has beaten the Chiefs in Arrowhead last year in December, I'm going with the Chiefs. You faked it all out, all right? The New Orleans Saints at the New York Jets. Heckmo will start with you on this one. Whoof this is somewhere a toilet has flushed. I'm gonna go with the Saints on this one. Okay, Yeah, it's in New York. Zach

Wilson is back for New York. By the way, New York, you're gonna take the Jets. Yeah, okay, give me the Saints defense on the road. Okay, Lorena go first on this one. All right, we'll passing. You're welcome, Kyle, because this is gonna be my hot take. I am gonna pick the Jets. I know they lost Tory Davis to a season ending injury, but like you said, Zach Wilson is back. He looks really promising last game, three touchdowns

in the first half. His defense couldn't help him at all, and so they kind of got slammed by the Eagles there. But I'm thinking he's mad. I'm thinking with Taysom Hill's finger, injury time, nervous to the Cowboys for each other. Yeah, I'm telling you it's right. So she's picking the Jets. I'm gonna pick the Saints even with the injuries. But I love your reasoning there because it's fantastic ballot fan fantastic. All right, Falcons, Falcons at the Panthers, Isaiah, who you

got on this one? So I'm still bambooso, are you? Okay? Falcons at who the Panthers? Where's it at? It's in Well, it's at the Panthers. Atlanta has outscored, has been outscored one twelve to forty one since Week ten. At the NFL with Carolina, Okay, Caroline has kind of been shambles too. You got here fired, Joe Brady. That was that was weird. That wasn't response after a fire? Yeah? Give me Caroline at home? Okay. Oh, I'm one the Falcons. I'm one

of falcons right here. Falcons, Lorena, who you got on this one? I'm going Panthers here, Panthers here. So I'm gonna go Falcons on the other side. So there's my second game that I've picked. Difference, He sounded more disappointed about that one here, Yeah, a little bit. I kind of wanted to pick the Carolina Panthers there, So that one's that one's hard. All right, Lorena will start with you on this one. Forty nine Ers at the Bengals. Okay, I think, um, with all of the injuries that San

Francisco has, the Bengals are gonna win at home. Oh okay, roight man, I dah Bengals Spingles. I'm always wrong about the Bengals, but I'll take them one more time. Okay, I'm gonna take the Bengals here too. So now I'm two and two. I gotta get one more in West West coast, the best coast. Hey, you're going with San fran here, Okay. I happen to watch the Bengals lose a really bad one against the Chargers last week. Is that they had that game and they just found a

way to just completely with the bed. I'm gonna go forty nine. Lookie there, look you there. All right. We'll start with Rob on this one. Rams at the Cardinals. Huge game in the NFC in Arizona. Going to be a lot of fun game. Man, that's gonna be yeah, right, it's gonna be a lot of fun. Rob God, give me the Rams. Give me the Rams. They lost three straight. The league's designed to kind of bounce back at some point. Give me La Lorena. I'm going Cardinals here. I think

picking the Rams on the road is risky. Oh it is? It very much? Is I? Um? Kyler Murray was actually at the wedding venue that I work at for a wedding preseason, and I think that I blest him with good luck this season, which is why they're playing so well. So I gotta go with Kyler. They are ten and two, so maybe that's why. Who's superstitious? Yeah, I'm gonna go made for each other. I'm superstitious. Is this at the same time? I don't step on the line, so yeah?

Is it on me? Yeah? Okay? Sorry? Uh yeah? Rams? Yeah, man, this is a tough This is a tough one, and you did this on purpose. Um, I'm gonna go Cardinals. I'm gonna go Cardinals. I'm going with Larry because she gave him the luck. Okay, we're going with the horned Sheep. All right, Rams, I'm with you. I'm gonna go with the Rams too. So now I've differed on three games, so I'm good to go. I couldn't wait for this last one to let it come down to the wire,

so I'm going with the Rams. Yeah, exactly. So all right here it is all boys at the Washington football team. Who's gonna come out on top in this one? Isaiah slunching in his chair, slouches chair about is this the Christmas Tree game? He is about to do it. I can feel it as he's asking about the Christmas Tree? No, the Cardinals? Cardinals? Is the Christmas Tree even though it's after Christmas? Is it? Yeah? It's after we're gonna do.

We'll do Washington when they come back. Okay, all right, Uh, Lorena, that's also after Christmas, Danny, Jim, Christmas. You're a used all three yours? I've used all three? Yeah, feel pretty good? Right? All right? Lorena? Who you got on this one? Are we doing scores here too? Yes? Scores please? Okay? Um, So I'm obviously picking the Cowboys. I think it's going to be a really toe to toe matchup. Um. I think it's gonna be a difficult game. I don't think it's gonna be an easy win. But I do think

that I'm gonna put my trust in QB one. I think Jack is gonna do much better um than Heidechie, And I'm gonna go with the Cowboys seventeen to fourteen. Oh ugly game. I like it. Like you said, it's gonna be a defensive matchup. Gotta get those wins. Lorena, thanks so much for joining us today. Love you. We'll talk to you soon. You guys, thank you. That's that got awkward fast. And you know what, I love her. She's the best. She's dope. Yeah, she said QB one.

She didn't even say that. She knows her stuff. She knows hers. Some of the facts that she gave for the summary of each game before we got into it was awesome, big facts. She read her nose word for her. You stop in right, you're gonna get me in trouble. I didn't even do that, all right, Rob Got I'm with Raina. I think it's gonna be kind of low scoring game. The Cowboys. I can go with them again because I keep saying offense if they've got the most talent,

and I think eventually it's gonna go through. But I think this might be another low scoring game, I'll go Cowboys twenty three twenty. I'll leave it to the end of the table, so I'll say Cowboys. I'm gonna say a little bit more high scoring than than those two. I'm gonna say thirty one twenty seven because I think this defense is gonna give up some points too. I think they're gonna run for probably one hundred and fifty close to two hundred yards in this game, But the

Cowboys gonna win. You want heck, I gonna go first? Oh yeah, Oh, it's not a problem. I'm all about it. Hey, Um, Before I go, I just gotta say, Scott Purcell is running the White Rock Marathon, and I'm telling you he is the last guy in the world that you would have ever expected to be running the marathon and he is doing it. So proud of you, Scott. You need you need to add play a Circle Duffel Bag Boys to your playlist because I know it's not there and

it's gonna get you through the lake. Run. Yeah, I love it. He go like, what is this I'm listened to? And that's a full marathon? Twenty six point two. Ain't doing the half he doing on the full things It Scott. I'm telling you we got the locator. We're gonna be following him the whole time. Hey, if you stopped for a long time, we coming, Scott, were coming. We're coming for you. But no, this is the game. This is the game Sunday. Yeah, it's a game that we have

to win. You guys know that this is for the marbles, for the NFC East. Obviously we got to play these guys again, but they dominated us last year. We gotta make up for it. So I'm seeing Cowboys with the dub and I'm going thirty burger on this. I think we do put it on them. I'll go thirty five dominating performance by the defense seventeen. I like it with this one. Yeah, they win, ugly, man, That's what they've

been doing Washington and then at home and they're at home. Yeah, it's still gonna be Cowboys heavy, though there's gonna be a lot of Cowboys fans in that building. Don't do it. Don't do it my mind, he's telling me. Man, honestly, feel this can go either way. I don't think that the Dallas is gonna have even a reflection of a run game at all. All right, twenty four twenty. Jesus, do it, He's real. Do it. Damn it, man, you want to do it. I do want to do it.

Do it? Say what I will say twenty Dallas. Oh, you can't say it like that. You gotta say it with your chest. I don't have the chest right now. You're not This game worries me. Well we get a call. All I'm saying is you gonna know. I don't do that. I don't do that. You know I stand behind my word. You're not gonna call you. Don't worry about that. I will own up Saturday night, eleven o'clock. It's already precedent here.

Once you lock it in in this studio, it's locks like damn, we've already established I don't feel confident with it. But that's my pick, all right. So Dallas twenty four twenty is your pick, Dallas. Across the board. It's twelve o'clock Central time, kick off at noon on Sunday. It's the Washington football team in the Dallas Cowboys. Hope you guys had some fun with us this week here on Talking Cowboys. Will be back on Monday morning, nine am Central Time to break it down. Chris Beam Rob Phillips,

Isaiah stand back, I'm Kyle Yomas, heck My Harrison. What do we say on Friday's Cowboys NAS? And I hope your team what. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club

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