Talkin' Cowboys: Reviewing the Week 2 Win

T Stadium on Sunday Night Football. Brian brought us joining us as well. Rob Phillips, I am hosting for Bill Jones today, Big Today, breaking it all down. I know it was a late nine for everybody, but we got a little bit better football, a lot better football than we saw in Week one against Carolina. And let's talk about two. Two ninety seven is the number. If y'all would like to join us. Kent Garrison is producing as always, gentlemen. They bounced back a little bit last night, didn't they, Yes,

they did. It was better and as I continue to tell folks that still aren't satisfied, this team will improve as the season goes along. It's not a finished product. What you've seen in two games is not what you're going to see for the next fourteen games. And I thought the offense seemed a little bit more coordinated. The offensive line did a heck of a better job. Instead of giving up the six sacks they did to Carolina, they gave up zero. Instead of the ten hits on

the quarterback, they gave up only three. And I thought dak at a much better job of when things were breaking down, just get rid of the football, throw it away. And I bet half as in completions were throwaways because he couldn't find anybody open. So I thought it was a step in the right direction. They got rewarded. The Giants were what we thought they were. They can't protect their quarterback, they can't run the football, even with se Quon Barkley, and they took advantage of that and beat

the living daylights out of Eli Manning. Brian, you were in here early, Yeah, breaking down the tape again. Yeah, what are your thoughts? Running it back a little bit. I think Mickey is absolutely right in what we saw last night. I did like how they were able to whether they scripted plays or however they got to their first couple of sequences of their play calling. I like the fact that they weren't running the ball on first

down to start. You know, usually you'll see him getting a twelve personnel and then run the football and it's a gain of one. You know. They spread the Giants out, They made the Giants defend the perimeter. The receivers, I thought, did a nice job of getting open. The challenge was on the receivers to have to make some plays down the field. They set up the past to Tavon Austin with some max protection. They gave Dak the opportunity to make some good throws. But overall, I say, you have

to think about some really positive things. The protection, the way that Da Dak had to make a couple throws in the pocket. He was able to do that. But they played what we were talking about more to his strengths, the read option stuff. And you know him, if he's gonna throw for one hundred and sixty yards, if he can give you another fifty or so on the ground every game, that will that will supplement what you're trying to do. But Mickey's right, they're not a finished product.

I think that you're gonna have to find more offense. You're gonna have to find ways to sustain more offense. The drive they had at the end of the game, though for the touch down, was well done, well executed, but they had too many stretches there where they had to make a throw a throwaway or they weren't able to appenally set them back. I mean, they had some good things set. They had back to back holding calls that were on plays where they were able to execute

to get a first down. You know, you look at you know, they run the ball on the outside. Usually you'll say, well, let's not run the ball to the edge when it's third and one, you know, because then you get something like that potentially happened. And then Jeff Swaying he got called for holding on that play and they complete a pass down the field to Thompson. So once again, this offense, when they have problems, it's usually self inflicted problems. But they're gonna need to create more offense.

But I think they got a good start with the protection and I felt like the receivers did their part, and then the quarterback played his part, and the offensive coordinator was able to get some things going that we hadn't seen in the in the at least for the first two weeks of the season. I charted the plays early offensively, and I mean, like you said, they come out with a pass on first down, right, not a run. They were listening to talking Cobb. They go and told

him what to do. They go deep to Tavon. It's probably a bad idea, but I like what you're saying, Mickey, for sixty four yards in the touchdown. They use Tavon on an end a round right early in the game. They start the read option and as you said, Dak Prescott forty five yards on the ground. I think that's a career high for him. It was it's like Christmas for all the guys yelling at us in the mail bag. Look,

they got to be more creative. They gotta do some more things to try to open things up, you know. But it's but it's also goes back to if you listen to what Ezekiel Elliott was saying in pregame and when we were doing our pregame show, which I appreciate your rob being a part of that. They did a great job. The Ezekiel it says, we've got to stay ahead of the chains. That was something that even Jason Garrett said after the game. Dak Prescott, hey a lot

on me. We gotta stay ahead of the chains. It's going to be easier for Scott Linahan to call a game if he can stay in manageable down in distance situation. We saw what happened when they get out of whack when it is a second and nine or second. They converted a few more of those, you know, but still overall only thirty percent on third down and and that's nearly not good enough to what they need to do.

But if you can get Zeke to run in near eighty yards, we talked about Dak getting near fifty yards, You'll take that every single time. Mixon to Tavon Austin fifteen yard reverse. That's a great play by Ezekiel. And on the play, here's the blitzer coming at him. He's going to fire the ball to the outside. He doesn't get distracted. Tabon Austin gave him enough room to get him. Sometimes you get the mesh points are a little crazy there, but Tavon Austin saw what was going on. You know that.

That just shows you This is why they went out and got Tavon Austin. Though you know when you can get a guy. And I'll tell you what the most impressive play to me, it was not the reverse or tabon Austin, not the bomb. But you watch the double move that he was able to make against Genors Jenkins to come back for fifteen yards. He's going to shake Jenkins. That shows you that he and guys Cole Beasley are capable. Look at the play that Cole Beasley made on third

down to come back to the football there. That could have very well been an interception, but he's able to come back. So if you've got shorter guys in the outside that are making plays down the field, that will open up some things. I think Thompson did a great job there. It's unfortunate that Rico Gathers didn't get rewarded for getting open on his pass. But people say, oh, well,

Prescott was getting blitzed there. Ogletree was close. Bad arm angle, but he's got to anticipate that throw a little bit more of a little bit more of a direct pass to the corner and you've got a shot right there for Rico Gathers to make a play. Rico Gathers had another opportunity as well, where he went as high as he can go. I don't think Rico Gathers can get any further off the ground or extend any higher to

make a play. Prescott got flushed to his right tried to make a throw to there, so they got Rico involved. It was one of those things where they really spread everything out around offensively, and that's what this team is going to have to do. It's gonna have to manufacture offense. It's not gonna be pretty all that time, but they're gonna have to find a way. I was ready for the slant what we call the slugo. You guys laugh

at me because I always talked to Dez about the slugo. Yes, the slant and go, we're gonna start to see that. Get ready for when the game plans, if people are gonna overplay to play the slant, get ready for the slugo. That's gonna be something that they're gonna be able to hit down the field. But they're gonna have to come

up with more things offensively. Though. They did enough to win this game with the offense they had, but I think they're gonna have to come up they're gonna play some defenses that they're gonna have to come up with some more things for you know. One of the things though that I think that was also good about this is they put some stuff on tape. Now people have to keep an eye on, yeah, and that helps they they're not gonna be able to uh, you know, landing

Collins on the deep Pass to Tavan. He bit on the run. He came out. They were committed. They were committed. Yeah, yeah, and it's like, okay, big boy, you didn't help your cornerback who who bit on the run. And it was a kind of a it was kind of a crafty deep route by Tavon Austin and kind of took me back to Trenny camp when he said, you know, you got to learn to how to run the nine route.

Just don't go out there or to burst the speed and think you're gonna out run the guy because he kind of slow footed it there, almost like he's stutter stepped, and oh, here came Jenkins and then he exploded and he's got enough speed that if he's even with you, if he's even with you, he's buy it done. And the safety can't get over the top end time, they flipped a play and did the same thing to the

other side to Michael Gallop. They kept protection in with swaying and then tried to throw it to the other side. And I think if Dak throws it a little bit more to the inside, the safety didn't get over the top. But they were committed. Really the challenge when you guys opened the show, the challenge accepted. The challenge for I think for Collins wasn't so much at Dak. It was can you guys these corners the challenges. We've got to

cover these guys. And I don't think the Giant corners Eli Apple got hurt, but I don't think the Giant corners did a well enough job. I'm surprised they didn't wear wear a BW web out in this football That's what I'm saying. I'm surprised. This wasn't a very you know, Thompson I think had six, seven, maybe eight targets. I'm not surprised. I'm surprised that we didn't see Beasley have

eight targets in this game that way. So yeah, but they flipped, they flipped, they try to hit it on a deep route again to Gallop and gallop and actually had some separation if the ball was a little bit more inside. We saw that play what happened in San Francisco in the preseason, remember where he was able to separate and Prescott fit the ball into him right there

and then it was a touchdown. I was thinking that was going to kind of be the same thing, but the ball kind of went to the outside, and you know, hey, at least they're taking shots down the field. That's what they've got to do. Yeah, they've got to They've got to find ways if they can hit big plays with guys that could separate, if Austin could separate, if a Gallop can separate, those are the things you need to do. And on the one on Gallop too, I went back

and looked at it. It looked like he didn't keep his how do they say it, the red line, Like he didn't give him enough space between where he was in the side. Always looks like he's getting interfered. He and it comes off the route. He's getting knocked around. But then but if you get him, if you get him tracking the ball, he can get that little two or three because you know, Eli Apple look back and then all of a sudden, that's where Michael Gallop keeps going.

But Mickey's right, the positioning the ball took him wider than he needed to be. If he gets a little bit more inside, and that's that's that's another another another big play there right there. We actually got to cut Kent, I believe from Dak talking about how they felt like they had to be the aggressors in this game offensively, and that's what happened at least early on for sure.

I mean, we just wanted to be their aggressors. We wanted to set the tone, how in the run game, in the passing game, and make them make them try to defend what we were doing. And it's not us going to the game trying to call our fence off of what they're doing on defense, rather than us to be the aggressives. And we did it. And really that's what they did second half at Carolina was they spread them out and say we're gonna dictate what we do. We're gonna spread you out and and try to loosen

things up a little bit. And you know, Tavon said that was a play the first play touchdown, something they worked on in practice absolutely, yes, all week And I asked him just about being used in different ways because he only got ten snaps I think at Carolina, and he said it was like my West Virginia days where I'm just they put me all over the field. And like you said, that's what you brought him in to do. Yes,

return punts right, be a mismatch player in space. And I don't know his final play count, but obviously he was more involved in this game. And it's just like Mickey said, it's another thing for defenses to think I didn't hear from my Scout friends to last night that you know, my Scout friends would always say, up Tavon Austin, Davon Austin. Yeah, you guys think you could do this with Tavon Austin that told you they got to see it.

They gotta see it. And that's I think that, and I think we all saw with Tavon Austin is capable of capably and if you could use him that way. If Dak's talking about being aggressive, you know, the read option, the RPOs, the reverses, anything to get the ball to those types of players in space. You know, if you've got some guys that are willing to do dirty work, like Thompson's willing to do dirty work. Alan Hearns looks

like a dirty work player. Okay, if you've got dirty work players that are going to make those tough inside catches for probably minimal gains, but maybe get your first downs. Now, take advantage of Beasley, Now take advantage of Austin. Now take advantage of Michael Gallup. Now take advantage of the quarterback running the football. That's what they're going to have to do. That's what this offense is going to have to be. There's gonna be a lot of different guys involved.

It's not going to be hanging your hat on one player or saying, hey, it's just the running game here. But they want to run the football. But they found ways last night to have different ways of doing whether it was the true traditional running back or the quarterback carrying the football. And I thought they did a better job of getting those offensive linemen on the move too. There was a couple of times where you saw Connor Williams polly by the way and on the move. He

is pretty darn good. He's an athlete, yeah, and so you know, yeah, is he gonna get overpowered at times. Absolutely, it's going to happen. But I think you can take advantage of things he can do. You can take advantage maybe a little bit of what Joe Looney can do. We know what Zach Martin can do. I just thought the offensive the offensive line played a lot more in rhythm, like they were coordinated, like they knew what they were doing.

And I think it showed, and it showed in the running game, and it certainly showed on that eighty two yard drive at the end when they I mean, that reminds you of twenty sixteen. Yeah, they didn't just blow everybody out, but at the end of games they had the ability to down finished, score a touchdown instead of a field goal and leave the game still in in jeopardy. Uh and and and just mix the plays awfully well.

So again, I'm just and I know people are gonna complain, Oh, they only scored twenty points, you know, Okay, fine, but it was more than they did the week before. Now, let's see if they take the next step, going to say, recover an onside kick, they give up what yeah, I mean three yeah, exactly. Mean, that's where that's where the almost the majority of their the Giants total yards were in the fourth quarter, they had one hundred yards and they had to get an extra possession to be able

to do that. Other than that, after three quarters they had gained one hundred and fifty five totally yards. If earned fifty five could say one thing quick, Rob, I know you're gonna make a really great point. If there's one thing though, that is a concern about this offensive line, and this happens with Travis Frederick not in the lineup. It's the second game where you've had a mic linebacker make a lot of play and that's with Ogil Tree. You know, he made a lot of tackles in this game,

and he was involved in tackles in this game. It goes back to trying to find ways. I mean, he had a lot of hits and so you know, you got to keep an eye on That is the Luke Keekley's of the world. And you're not always gonna play Luke Keekley, but you're probably gonna play a lot of Alex ogle Trees. Say Bobby Wagner, Yeah, unless he's still hurt. Yeah. And if you're a Cowboys fan, hit your knees and hope you know in that one. But but see that to me, this is where you know, okay or is

it gonna always be pretty? Mickey is absolutely right about the line and way they played with with you know, they did a really great job. One of the things I've noticed last night was Zach Martin veteran move. You know, anytime snacks Harrison's ribs are exposed, take your helmet and jam him in it as hard as you can, try and soften him up, you know, keep beating on him, keep beating on him. That's what they were able to

do last night. They beat on these giant defensive linemen last night and it helped him summon the game went to the body like a box body. Yes, it's body shots there. But keep an eye on these linebackers making plays. Now it might be second level plays, but they're there. You know, what could be a seven or eight yard game is only a three yard game, you know, keep

an eye on. Okay, how they doing that? Howie? And that's that's that's nitpicky on my part, but it's but it's two weeks in where they haven't accounted for a linebacker inside as well as they need, and that's a lot of it has to do because we're so used to Travis Frederick and Zack Martin and those guys doing what they have to do to kind of control that inside. What's the nuance to that in terms of what Frederick brings and some of its pre snap communication identifying who

the mic is right? I saw that last think it's more. I think it's really about just the just the overall. And it's quite possible that Joe Looney did not play bad last night. It's just two weeks in a row that Joe Looney has not killed you in a game. He's been solid, Yeah, he's been very solid. But you just say, okay, if you if you want to say, what are you missing from Travis Frederick? That's where you're missing.

It's there's probably some communication factor, like you're talking, but you're missing that ability to really cut the defense in half when you get a guy, when you get him to secure and then second level that gives Zeke that

little bit of cutback. You know, the couple of the big runs they had last night were when they ran traps with the tight end you know they got you know, they were able Swaying or Jarwin, neither one of them got a block, but they were able to get hats on hats and then now Zeke coming off the goal line and then going in, they ran a couple of those those those plays where they ran traps with the tight ends. It worked out pretty well, but they were

able to get guys up on linebackers. And that's you know, that's what they have to have. They have to have more of that where it's a nineteen yard run and a seven yard run as opposed to a two yard run or a three yard run. Yeah, we saw Zeke hitting the edges a little more too in this game.

He was captured the outside, you know. And if they wouldn't have had and I think they were on the move there in the third quarter when they got the back to back holding calls, Well they two really big plays, you know, and and they brought back that were first down play times. It was a three and out that included two first downs. Next time, swains on the outside and he blocks this guy, Just screen him, don't try to bury because he had the block. Yeah, you know,

I still don't understand it's a bulldog move. Well it's a bulldog move. I mean, once you block the guy and you bury him. Why do they call holding, Well, that guy's fault. They called him for the initial arm around the neck and then he tried to pull it back and by that time all the officials saw the umpire made the call. All he saw was the round

the neck. And you know, it's difficult. That's a difficult one because he's just trying to you know, he did a nice job in pass protection, trying to help out. I mean, he gets overpowered a lot. They do not have a blocking tight end on this team. They just don't. It's Jarwin was a liability yesterday in this game, Swain, he doesn't have enough bricks in his pocket. You know,

he's trying. They need to get Rico going. Somebody needs to get going here to try and help them a little been in the running game as far as at the point of attack, but also too. There was a side of me that was really kind of mad when I saw it initially last night. Third and one. I'm always thinking, run the ball, attack the line, attack the line, get the first down. It reminded me of that Detroit game that they lost a few years ago when they

were up. We were up in Detroit, up by ten, and all of a sudden Tyrn Smith got the holding penalty because they ran the ball outside instead of trying to attack and get the first down. I got mad last night. I'm like, I'm I damn it. Don't run the ball like that, don't go outside. But if you go back and watch the tape, it was the right thing to do. They had. They had a compressed box. They were able to get guys the outside if if Colin's hand doesn't go up, it gets on the top

of the pad instead of inside. And I'm doing bad radio right now because I'm if you're listening and not watching, I'm putting my hands inside where they grabbed that breastplate there and kind of control except is handing it up on the pad on the top of the shoulder. And once John Harry the officials saw that that's an easy call for him to make. It's happened to Travis Frederick before. Yeah, it's it's the Rams game. And I believe last year it was one of those things, the subtle, you know,

hand placement deal. They can make the difference in the call, right, And they got called and Mickey's right, you get twenty yards of Pilli's right there, and then you have to throw the screen to just to get out of the down. So you know, Dad completed the ball. I mean he is a pocket pass that on the holding pen. League was swaying. But man, I'll tell you what if it third and one, I'm thinking about, oh, just running inside. But I give Lynna Handsome credit. He made the right call.

They had the block and then they had Zeke had the first down and had more if he just wouldn't have the unfortunate holding. They were efficient enough and dynamic enough early offensively to get a lead that they never lost in this game. They win twenty to thirteen over the Giants. Let's take our first break. Guys, we come back. We've barely touched on the defense to do that. A little sack party that they had against the Giants last night.

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hopefully I am reasonable. But I wanted to say first that was happy and impressed with the game last night, really allowing Dak and the guys that they have to be utilized for the best ability. I definitely think it's something to build upon. My question to you now is if they were to add Josh Gordon, do you think that this could only be in addition to adding upon what they've done and what they have kind of started from last night. And I'll go ahead and sit back

and listen. Thanks for the calling, Nate. I don't see them adding Josh Gordon at all. I really, I've got the I just I don't know, Mickey. Maybe you guys heard a different vibe at the game, but I did not get to I had the opportunity to talk to several people, and I just did not get the feeling that they were very interested in Josh Gordon at all. I haven't gotten that vibe either. Yeah, why wouldn't change anything? Why no? But why would you want to add another headache?

You got enough headaches on your hands. That's that's the I'm getting the folks, this is where you know, we all need to learn together here, and you know, we say, well why not, why this? Go at him? Do this? Do that? Trust me, these folks, these guys on the other side of the building, guys and gals on the other side of the building, they know more than us. They know more than us as far as about the player,

you know. I mean when we do the draft show, we talk about well, they say, how to draft this guy, gotta draft this guy? Got Well I don't. I didn't know the guy as character problems and has injury history and all that. I'm trying to say why the Cowboys should draft a guy and I can't. I'm getting mad while they don't draft him, but then all of a sudden it's like, well wait a minute, after the draft,

I'm like, oh, that was what's happened. So you have to trust that they have their reasoning of why they don't want Josh Gordon. They if you go back, they had a wh when Josh Gordon they were willing to draft him in the supplemental draft, so they they knew

at Baylor what was going on there. It goes to Cleveland he has the issues, and then it's like okay, now it's there's even more issues there, and you just have to trust that Will McClay and the college scouts and the pro scouts and those guys, they're giving Jerry Jones the best information they can about the player, more than more than what. I'm sorry, folks, if you get mad at me, and I mean this in no disrespect, more than Vic and Ventura and more than Joe and

Flower Mountain, it's no disrespect. I'm just talking about fans. They know more than us. And so when I asked a question, or Mickey asked a question, or you ask a question and they say no, this is why, then you have to say, Okay, I understand. Do we have to like it? No, he's a talented football player. He's in a great talent. He is a great talent. But if you don't want to deal with all the other stuff, they know it. We don't, and we're slowly learning things.

And you know, people say, well, gosh, you're bringing back or talking about Bryce Butler. Why why are you talking about Bryce but Apparently, Jason Garrett said on the and this morning, I didn't have a chance to hear it quickly. Right, Apparently they're going to have some street free agents work out, right, He's supposed to be among them, right, So that's what I'm saying. Jerry was lukewarm on that last night. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Don't don't always expect

they is it? The? Is it? The? Is it? The best group in the National Football League? That group and Giants are better wide receivers than what Dallas is playing with right now. But Dallas's receivers did a great job of getting open two weeks in a row. Now, you know, they've done a nice job of doing what they have to do. But let's trust what will McClay, Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones and them are thinking about a player. Jerry Jones takes chances all the time. He's not afraid everybody. Yeah,

why yeah, why and they go why why? Why not? You know, why not take another chance? Maybe the not Maybe things are different with Josh Gordon than there are with other people. Trust me on that, Okay, trust me by the way, Sorry I say maybe I just said that in the first place, And I said he Bryce Butler is expected to work out today. Yeah, not just who Apparently Browns are cutting ties with him. Maybe they're trying to trade him first, you'll see, but he's not

going to be part of that organization. I mean, you're you're nursing David Irving along, You're nursing Randy Gregory along. Yeah. How many of those guys do you think you can take care of on one team? And then on top of that, to double down on what Brian said, they know and if you're trying to trade a guy, you gotta be honest when somebody calls. This isn't horse trading here, you know, you got to be honest on Okay, well, you've had him, now what's the deal? And I guarantee

you that this team got calls about Dez Bryant. Absolutely, they wanted to know, and you got to tell the truth because next time you call them, if you fool them, then shame on you because they'll fool you. That's a great point. Yeah, there's almost like honor among thieves. You know, that is exactly what it is. And and you got to be careful. And they know Cleveland not going to just cut the guy because he's so good, and it's like, oh, we can't put up with him anymore. There's reasons. There's

serious issues there. Serious Let's see how many other teams are just chomping at the bit to to bring him in. No, you're absolutely right now. As for the he'll find a job somewhere, that's for the Bryce Butler thing, which I said, Jerry was asked and it was kind of off the record, and he was like, oh, you know the way he answered it, but there wasn't No, there wasn't. Well, if they're bringing in other guys, it could be other receivers to that be looking at who's who's going? This is

where we have what spot my question? This is where And I hate to speculate, but because it's not a drug or an alcohol, well, alcohol. Maybe are we missing something with Terrence Williams and what happened this summer? Are we missing a game suspension, a two game suspension? Are we missing something there? That's the only thing I could think of, because Terrence is part of the game plan. But if you watched it last night, they could do some things with Thompson that they do with Terrence as

a blocker. They can bring him inside and do and run routes and things. The only thing that I could think of was that maybe something is coming down there. And I don't know this for sure, but they might be bracing for Terrence Williams to be having to be suspended from the league for what happened with the all the DWI, the DUI and then the police and the crash and all that stuff. That's the only thing, Mickey,

I don't I'm just the fact it's not drugs. I mean, I could feel like I could talk about it a little bit and say, maybe that's what they're bracing for, that they're going to have to bring somebody in. But then why would they not sign why would they not bring Lance Lenora up right or something like that all of a sudden, If I'm Lance Lenore, and you bring in Bryce Butler off the street and now he's on the active roster. I'm looking to leave as soon as

somebody wants me. I'm not staying around if you don't want to bring me up when there's an issue. And it's still might with Jerry saying they're going to have a workout, and he was kind of like, I really don't know what's going on with Bryce Butler over here. Maybe that's one of those things that they see a workout and the guys aren't good enough and it is bring up Lance Lenore. Yeah, I mean, this is this is what teams do on the off day. Absolutely. By

the way, Terrence didn't get a DUI. I think it was public in Okay, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to know. I was just say yeah, I was. I feel like I was able to talk about it because it wasn't drugs. You know, it was something that he was you know, it happened to him, you know, the league, the conduct policy, all these things, leaving a scene, he came back, you know,

all this stuff. You don't know. Maybe they're bracing for something that we again, we and Joe and Flower Mountain, Vic and Ventura don't know about because they do have six wide receivers on the right and they and they have and they have two on the practice squad, right they have they have Anderson, and they have Lenore And what's his dimension that helps this team? Bryce? Yeah, well

another vertical player. Yeah, a bigger vertical player. I mean honestly, when they signed Thompson, to me, it was like, okay, he he could be the bigger vertical players faster. Yeah. Yeah, Bryce can run now, he can run, he can Sear takes him away. He's like he's on a zero to sixty guys. So Arizona couldn't use him. Well, they didn't make the final team. Yeah. The thing with Bryce, coaches go back, it's comfort again. It's it's like, you know what,

we're missing this piece. But I again, I I'm just saying, I'm surprised that they're bringing in receivers, to be honest with you. You know that to me is if you wanted to work out a million safeties, I'm with you. Or defensive lineman, uh well, particularly for this game. Randy Gregor, he is not ready to play in this game. Although he was medically clear to practice Friday. They had seven active defensive lineman and Leek Collins apparently spraining his knee

in the game. So that's a position we've been talking about, defensive tackle where they're not exactly deep at well, might they address seven defensive linemen and almost came back and got him. Yeah. Yeah, and in a situation too where you maybe get Dayton Jones back this week. That's true. He is closer. Dayton Jones, I was told did some scout team stuff, so they're trying to get him back into the mix. I guarantee he'll be part of the rotation. You better find a way to make this guy play

backwards this week. And I'm talking about that Russell Wilson. This is a different guy they're defending this week. It's a lot like it's a smaller version of the guy you tried to defend in Week one. That's right, that's right, let's get into that a little bit. Not Russell Wilson in the Seahawks. Yeah, we'll do that tomorrow. That tomorrow

and throughout the week when Bill's back. But defensively, what the Cowboys were able to do it looking like the makings of a pretty solid defense from Dallas right now. If I can open this up, Tip of the cap to Tip of the cap to the two cornerbacks that played last night, Byron Jones and a Woozier. Yeah, tip of the cap to them, because for them to blitz as much as they blitzed last night, you're stuck in a lot of man coverage. Now, the last quarter of

that game, they played a lot of zone. They stayed back, They let things happen in front rally, rally rally. But every time that number thirteen went down the sidelines or thirteen went across to the formation, there was somebody running with him, whether it was a safety, a corner. But when that ball was going down the field, you got to give those guys a lot of credit for the way they positioned themselves, the way they defended the pass, the only real bust they had. And I need to

figure it out. We need to ask coach and the walk off what happened on the touchdown that they had, because it looked like it looked like somebody should have gone with it. Did you talk to anybody? No? I cannot, but it was the films showed Layton vander esh pointing over that way towards towards Jalen Smith, no communication to Heath. Heath on film, when you watch it, guys is looking dead inside. He's not looking at the soh he's a man's he was playing like it wasn't Yeah, he was

trying when it came. So we need coaches usually pretty good in the walk off of saying had a bust here, this is what happened, or somebody will explain. But on tape you see Vanderash point to Jalen Smith, Jalen communicates back. It doesn't get back to it looks like the Heath snap all of a sudden, you got the tight end running down the middle of the field. That's an easy play something that's the only blemish that now the past

that went down the field to the Lattimer. Uh, I would say yeah, yeah, yeah, uh you know lad yeah Latimer. He Yeah, that ball, I mean you you're I mean Woozier is I mean hand is swiping and his hand is just inches from and that's just a pretty ball thrown in there. Yeah, but it's a big play. It was a big play in the game. But man, he was right there and cover it. Wouldn't he busted and he was stumbling and falling and grabbing. He was in good shape. It was just a give you Manning some

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By the way, Star Sports. I'm looking at him like, Mickey, don't do this. And then he just went after whoever asked that question? Mickey, bar guy, what do you ask? Well you ask? Then he goes, are you glad you got that first miss out of the way? Whoa Whoamer looked at him like, you know you wanted to say, like, are you crazy? I never want to miss I'll tell you what a lot of missing going on in the national kickers. That's where I was going. Dan Bailey could

have a job soon if he wants someone. It's not already. Minnesota drafted that Carlson guy like a fifth rown pick. Yeah, well, I'm looking at Cleveland missing four kicks, two field goals, two extra points. Minnesota missed what three including a three field goals a makeable field goal to win the game overtime. You know what I learned yesterday? And I didn't know this overtime is now only ten minutes. You forgot it. I forgot that we might have a tie every week.

It's gonna be like man in the mat soccer. There will be some man in the match soccer. Man. There's gonna be some complaining two Why I was in only ten minutes. We've had two ties the first two weeks of the season. Too many. You're not playing nineteen sixty seven, mickey. When you're when your favorite team finishes uh nine, six and one, six and two, you know one of those things. I've always had a few ties early day. Yeah they did, Sure did, all right. They had a few sacks last night,

Sure did too. How many six by six different players? And I we try to get that stat after the game. What's the last time or has that happened? In team mystery? And we haven't gotten it yet. Hopefully get it today because I'm curious. That's rare that it's spread around and it's that varied. And I think number one, it shows shows you three things. The Giants have major protection problems, huge major It's gonna cost some games this year. I think at them too, they would get ready in Houston

next week too. Yeah. Uh. Two, this is a this is a defensive line that's got some talent. In Three, this is just to my eye, they seem to be more aggressive blitzing so far this season. They've sending more guys. Am I wrong about that? Or somebody calling out sawing the defenses occasionally? Huh, somebody else calling the defense occasionally. I didn't say that. I don't know that exactly. Do you think so? But I think they're sending their linebackers.

They're sending say it's a two pronged thing. Though, Let's go back to what he first pointed out about the defense. Yeah, when your corners, oh yeah, are holding up, you trust you trust them then sends them because there's always this idea that when you blitz, that solves all your problems. Well, you gotta get there. Yeah, and they're getting guys there, right. I think they've got some linebackers who know how to get there. Uh. They blitz Cavon Frazier a couple of

times and he it seems to get there. Yea. And so when you're having success and the opposing offensive line is totally confused, it wasn't like a lot of times that they just physically couldn't hold up. They didn't know what they were doing. Yeah, they were playing games inside they were blitzing. But yeah, I like it. But I think when you trust your corners then you have the ability to do that a little bit more. Plus the

quarterbacks not going to make you look foolish, can't. We've got to cut from Jason Garrett correct on on the sacks and the pressure that they else defense got last night. When you do sack the quarterback six times, it's usually a combination of Russian cover and those guys were getting up the field and getting after him a lot of different guys around the quarterback, but typically the coverage has a lot to do with being able to get to

a quarterback like that consistently throughout the game. So the man and man coverage that we ran against some really dynamic players, and also how we played our own coverage to limit the opportunities for him to throw the ball quickly. The other thing that stood out to me se Quon Barkley, who is a beast, by the way, he is going to be targets. You have sixteen, he had sixteen targets. He had fourteen catches for eighty yards. Yeah, and if you're the Cowboys, you'll take that all day, as opposed

to Odell Beckham four catches for fifty one yards. My key to the game was you gotta limit the big plays. And they got a couple late, including a touchdown. But you know, when Cowboys trying, you know, trying to manufacture points, a couple of big plays can get the Giants into

scoring position. And they really didn't allow And a lot of the stuff from Eli was just bailout throws to say Quon to try to save face and and and you know, get some semblance of yardage as they ran the ball eleven times with him for twenty eight yards two and a half yards of carry. So they shut down the run, did a nice job of that got pressure. By the way, and I know this this is like way off base. But nine sacks in two games, yeah,

that factors out to seventy sacks in a seasons. WHOA, yeah, that's not going to happen, right, How do you know, Well, I don't know. I don't know that you get David right there. Just think if you had Irving and Gregory I field at the same And by the way, you know, one of the unsung guys on that team that and this is two games in a row now is rent Is Taco Charlton. Sure he played well again, which has allowed the Cowboys to move Crawford inside. And he's kind

of a mismatch guy in there. He caused a lot of problems. Now I know he got one sack, but a lot out of the stunts they were doing involved him, uh inside and uh, you know, his motor is really going, and you combine that with woods how he's played. They even moved to Marcus Lawrence inside a couple of times. Sure, so, uh you know, you get Gregory back, you get Irving back. They got they got something. You know, you talk about Taco and he had the sack, and you know he

got some help from his teammates. But if you if you look at Crawford's sack, Crawford is going to run the great polar route. He's gonna come all the way from the left, all the way around the right. But it was such a nice rush by Taco from his right end. He went down so hard inside and he picked off her nandez and once once Crawford was able to clear her name, really, Manning had nowhere to go.

Eye leveled down. He's trying to move. But that's you know, it's usually Crawford the one that's kind of helping his teammates get home. But you talk about Taco, you know, if he if he's and gets knocked around and doesn't penetrate as deep as he needs to penetrate, well maybe Crawford doesn't get home on the sack. That's just guys unselfishly playing for each other right there, not thinking about themselves, but thinking about how can I get do my job

in order to get somebody home on the rush. They've had This happened quite a bit in these two games. And the sack that Taco got he was unblocked, I believe just because Jaalen Smith. Again they had a bust inside and I don't know what Nate Solder was doing. They should have bumped that thing all the way out. It reminded me very much of what happened last week

in Carolina with Ezeko Elliott. But if, but if, if Jalen Smith doesn't attack the A gap the way he does with Sean Lee that brings the back, Stewart has to step up because you want to pick up the first blitzer and let the widest rusher at the quarterback handle that guy. But Tacco was on him so quick that there was no way they could get the ball off. But again, that was Jalen Smith attacking the a Sean Lee attack in the bee and making that back have

to step up and take that. You know. The other guy that got a lot of snaps when Lawrence needed to go get an IV, Dorence Armstrong was He was played really well white a bit yea which helps his development. Right, he gets snaps. That's how you get some snaps, and and and the same thing with Layton Vanderish when when they're up three scores, it's like, okay, Sean, quit running up and down the sideline showing everybody that your hamstring's okay, go sit down. We're gonna play this guy. We'll save

you for next week. And then he finally talked his way in for that second oddside kick. He did not want to have to go out there and play defense again. Yeah, he was like, okay, that's enough, that's enough. I'm right, take that guy off the field. We're not. But yeah, and Sean said it's uh more of a cramp be on with the hamstring. He said it shouldn't affect him for next on the post game list, Yeah, that's good news.

But to get those young guys snaps like that is invaluable because if you think about it, even go back, how many times does Cowboys have a lead, seventeen point lead whatever going into the fourth. There so many tight games and they only had seven defensive lineman active, but they all had to play, and that those snaps are just invaluable. I guarantee you Dorin's armstrong. You know the other thing about Taco, We we always talk about sacks, but he's done a better job setting the edge, like

he's gotten stronger, right. Aaronelli told me he did a nice job actually in the read option stuff. He kind of did his job right with some of the stuff Newton was thrown at him that was successful on the ground. And he did tell me he wants him not playing as many snaps. You know, I think more like thirties is necessity. Necessity. He's the starter. He's the starter. He was. He was out there almost every possession, and it looked

like the safeties were out there a lot too. Again, I bet they played every play except Hambell had to come out. Hambell came out with Kim winning for one play for Heath Right, he got the win knocked out. He did play. Yes, Um, he was inactive the first week. I believe Campbell. They both were acted. They both were acted. But and Tyree Robinson and they didn't play a snap in a week. Yeah, yeah, they're they're Cavon's not coming

off the field with that shoulder. And he had a nice you know, and he ran into Barkley one time at the point of attack, Right shouldered him and I'm thinking, oh, che's hold up, and he looked okay, no worse for wear there. They need him to keep playing the well as well as he Campbell. Campbell came in and I think I wrote down, Okay, Huff's in the game, Huff And you know, maybe you get Xavier Woods closer this week. Although with hamstrings, as we know, it's kind of a

week to week, day to day type deal. He looked like he was running pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, Anthony Brown's a terrible scout perdue. Oh play Missouri played Missouri this week. Yeah, I gotta tell him. He told me, oh, he goes, they're alternating quarterbacks. We ain't got a quarterback. He if you playing two, you don't have one. And then the guy goes out and throws for five hundred and seventy yards. What did your

quarterback throw for four hundred and something? That's pretty good. Your quarterback might be the first one taken in this draft. If I'm pretty can't hit the draft show music please, but you give us five hundred and seventy yards I'm talking about, Yes, you need a quarterback Missouri. So LSU and Missouri were in the same boat walk off game winning field goals right time experience. Yeah, but this was per due to Auburn. Hey, it wins a win, Mickey, Well,

that's why I looked at it. My steak tasted really good. Saturday night, I think I saw something I've never seen before. A guy quit in the middle of the football game. That too, how about he just had enough? You know you know what that is. That is very much a It might be a movie slap shot. Yes, the guys skip the andi's skating around all right, taking off the equipment. You haven't seen the movie slaps. I go back and check it out. He's like, what's he doing? He's like,

he is that enough? I saw? I saw my first header in football. Yeah, pass was broken up and the ball went over the guys that broke it up, and the linebacker was running underneath and it hit him in the head and went right to the tight end for like a forty yard game. I said, when that stuff happens, you're probably gonna get beat Man of the Match, Man the match. Yeah, yeah, it's inful trading our lives. All right, Let's get to Rashim in Pennsylvania before we get out

of here. What's up, Rashim? Good? Lovely shows, love the insight, Thank you? Um I just have a question on scheme wise, what's that guys thought about the Cowboys playing or wild receivers instead of the three wild receivers in the tight end. I just felt like maybe the best verses of themselves with uh Beasley, it's hav On with the middle and you got Thomp, Swains and Gallop on the outside, and

you still got the threat of Zeke running the boy. Yeah, okay, I think I think they went four wide a couple of times they did. Yeah, And you know what, I I don't have a poor Jeff Swam and he it's like he gets caught in a revolving door every game you ever watch him, he gets it's like he's blocking a bomb bum and he gets knocked around all over the place, and I'm sure he wakes up he's like,

oh my gosh, what happened to me? But yeah, I feel like though that, uh you know, playing the four wides with Zeke as a threat, I don't think that's a bad idea. I think you'll you'll see some of that, I really really do. I mean that's not an That's not one of those things where I would go, ah, yeah, why are you taking him off the field. You know, the tight ends haven't really I mean they I don't

know if you could say they've even been okay. I mean Swain helped him with the deep pass and stuff like that, but it's just been kind of a kind of a group just kind of plodding along here through two weeks. So if you want to add another playmaker out on the field, if it's Austin and Beasley and Thompson and and you know Hearns or whoever develope, yeah

why not? I'm yeah, yeah, why not? A lot of receivers are trying to get to yeah, you know, still two games in, they're still kind of working through the rotation. I think you'll see this if it happens if somebody doesn't have enough defensive backs to play you. If somebody doesn't, if you're down to okay, who's the fourth corner we're gonna put out there? You know, sometimes in matchups you keep the tight end on the field because you feel like that Swain is a better guy than the safety

that's covering him. But if you get a team that doesn't have a good group of corners, like I said, I don't know why they didn't attack b W Webb more last night because he showed he really couldn't handle it. But you know, they got to do with what they did. What you're looking at, Mick. I wanted to see how many tackles b W. Webb made because his guy was always catching, but he had to play. When Eli Apple went out, they had to shuffle him around. So yeah, yeah he got I think he caught a pass. He

caught a pass being he caught a break last night. Yeah, me personally, if I was a OC, I'm looking for your weakest players. Where is he? Yeah, Okay, it's like Tom Brady, It's like he's right there, right, He's Drew Brees, He's right there. You know, Damian Wilson is right there, you know. I mean they're pointing at you. Yeah, they're pointing at you, and then they're they're figuring out ways to attack you. Um. I wish we had a little

bit more of that. I wish we had a little more time because we had so much hours up already. You got tomorrow, we got Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Bill, we'll be back in studio and we'll continue breaking down this game, looking ahead to those Seattle Seahawks tough road trip coming up for Dallas at the Bears to night. You watch him on Monday Night Football if you want to break him down and we're gonna scout him tonight, scout him. You gotta have notes for you scott him up a

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