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doing been better? Why is that? Wow? Something happened this weekend? Yeah? I hurt you a little bit. Yeah, you still still feeling bad from it? Just sucks. I'm not gonna be able to see you guys every day. I know it hurts, it's trash. It hurts because of many reasons. That's one of the reasons I started going through the pictures. Last night. I posted it on on I g a sad face. Put it on you you felt a sad face me too, Like at the end of the year. I usually put
the other a little montage of pictures or whatever. And I put it up on Instagram last night, and it's just like, man, Wow, that went by real fast, went by real quick, and just like that, it's done. I'm just over here trying to figure out, Oh gosh, were you stirring up over there. I'm not stirring up anything. You're starting up trouble. I'm stirring up anything, Apparently, I'm not. You know, We're still get a little bit of nation
right wide trouble that you're stirring up over there. We're just sitting here dealing with dealing with the loss, uh you know, back in Santa Claure, Santa Clair that the Cowboys said, and still kind of going through the grieving process of that as we start to unfortunately try to turn the page to the off season that has now arrived earlier than we would have liked or anticipated, but you know, also later than the haters anticipated. So true.
But that said, um, you know, and we said it yesterday. One percent honorable and and noble for Dak Prescott to step up and say, hey, those two interceptions were one hundred percent on me, uh, saying how he has to do better, saying that he will go into the off season, and virtually guaranteeing that the interception number that he put
up this year will not occur in twenty twenty three. Um. And and you know, I wrote the article basically detailing the things that went wrong in San Francisco, you know, the science is the science, and giving Dak a salute for taking accountability. And we put the article out on Twitter, and instead of everybody taking it as hey, Dak Prescott took accountability, everybody's like, oh, the team is throwing them under the bus. Where's the bus? I don't I don't
see the bus. But you know, Twitter is going to Twitter. Twitteros are going to Twitter. You know what I mean? So I know what you mean. No, see, Yeah, but it's crazy. Is it's even more hilarious as this grows to its own thing, because first of all, I know how the game works. I get the game. Um, you know the guys that what's the name of that show? First Fake? Okay, so that show. So I know what their formula. Um, you know, uh Pat Fugazy, I know
his formula. I mean I know the formula. Right. So the formula is for them to look at the trending topics rather they care about it or not, and then they formulate segments off of it so that that can generate, continue to stir up the hive, and you know, you get the people who are angry, and you get them angrier, not realizing over maybe realizing that those people didn't read the article in the first place anyway, because had they read it, they would have seen that it detailed all
of the things that went wrong on offense as a whole. But you didn't read the article. Hell, you didn't even read the tweet. Because if you're at the tweet, then you felt their quotation marks in the tweet that says dak Prescott dak On lost to forty nine. It doesn't say no see on dak On lost forty So for those who read the tweet appropriately, for those that read the article and continue to follow the science and half follow the science up to this point, and thankfully will
continue to follow the science. I thank you, we love you here talking Cowboys, we love you here Dallas Cowboys dot com, and I love you for following the Science Lab that comes out weekly and will continue to into the off season. But I just wanted to kind of
get that off my chists. It's it's it's sad that this is the society we're in, but it's the society we're in, and really could have been resolved by one or two people just simply reading what was right in front of them instead of reading what they think they saw because they're upset in the moment and they need somebody to attack. And if you want to see the tweet yourself, it's still up there because it's nothing's wrong
with it. It was tweeted yesterday ten forty eight pm, or no, excuse me on Sunday at ten forty eight pm. It's that it's got Dak Prescott looking down at a tablet. That's the photo that's on the article. It's actually a good article. I really liked it. Thank you, Yeah, because I actually read it because because hey, this is this is a social media lesson for everybody. How about you click the article and then you read the article before you retweet, and you start providing opinions on the article.
And here's what makes it even more more sad is that even if you are a headline replier, which that's just bad. Don't be a headline remplier. That that's just one of the worst types of human beings. But even if you what about a Jeff a replier, somebody that just replies in Jeff's you think that's a good thing. I think it's awesome. I think that Dunny, that's all
I said, does on Twitter. That's he's defending it. But yeah, even if you had just read that headline, then you notice it says dak or lost to forty nine ers. I mean, Dak is taking his accountability. So what everyone should be doing, UM, while the collective of Cowboys Nation is grieving it and trying to move forward into the off season to see what needs to happen in twenty twenty three, to see what will or will not happen four twenty twenty three, UM, give a salute to Dak
Prescott out and stand that he made those mistakes. And we pointed out those mistakes, and we'll continue to point out those mistakes, and he's pointed out those mistakes himself. But for him to be able to stand forward, stand up and say, hey, you know what, that's on me again, that's honorable, that's noble, and that's a leader, and that's what you want leading the locker room going forward. So now it's just a matter of fixing the issues. And he's already getting to work on that. So you know,
bottom line, read the article or shut up? There's the line there. You go? Ye? How about that? All right, let's and maybe don't start fights courts up. Yeah, that's probably a good one too. Let's talk about some of the next day observations. I'm sure everybody here's just gone back and watched the film. Everybody here has gone back and maybe gotten some ounce of sleep, of thinking about what's going on and what went on with the cowboys.
But Isaiah, now that you've had a little bit to stir on, and what's still the number one takeaway for you in the loss to the forty nine ers? You give them exture opportunities. Yeah, I mean that's really what it comes down to. I mean, you we I don't want to be the Dead Hordes. But we talked about yesterday how you shut down Bossa, you shut down four of their top five weapons and you still find a way to lose the game. That's just something that you
just can't do. It's not foreseen. That's not if anybody would put that on paper and say, you're gonna shut down, shut down the number one second leader in the in the league, and you're gonna shut down four the top five weapons for San Francisco, that's a dub. That's a dub, and it wasn't And you have to go back and analyze why he wasn't a dub. I think we all know that everybody. You can always sit back and say everybody could have played better. Every everything nobody grades out
at one hundred percent unless you're a kicker. Um, that wasn't the case either. But you know, dec Ridian man, they we're not gonna keep beating deck into the ground. There's things that he has to improve on, and I think there seems that he can do to put his teams in better situations, and the organization will do what they can to put this organization and this team in the future and a better predicament to win the ballgame, and that's you lose. You you learn more and losses
than you then you learn in wins. And I just my hope is that dak this offense and its totality, this defense. You know, there's things that they can learn from this year as well. Obviously, Um, they didn't turn a ball over the way in which they wanted to turn a ball over. They didn't do it like they did last year. I think they are more effective at certain areas. They're going to improve upon their rush defense. Right. There's everybody has work to do to contribute to potential
wins in the future. And now this is a time when everybody goes back to the lab and you identify your issues, You identify the points in the in areas that you can that you need to address, and then you address them. It's definitely back to the drawing board for the Cowboys. Um. I mean there's a lot of opportunity for improvement to be taken away. Like Iris is saying, um, and in that same breath, thankfully, it's not about rebuilding
or blowing everything up. Um. You have one of the better draft classes that you've acquired in recent history, in the twenty twenty two draft class from Tyler Smith to Sam Williams. You know, obviously question Mark still on Jalen Tibert. But go down there, mister Deron bland Um, Damon Clark.
I mean, you know, Payton Hindershot as an undrafted guy, Jake Ferguson as a fourth round I mean the list goes on and non, so tons of promise when you add that up against you know, uh, you know, acquiring Michael Parsons in the first round and you know, previous to that, CD Lamb. So your draft formula is magnificent. Is it perfect? No, it's not perfect. They're thirty two teams in the league, and no draft strategy is perfect. Every team has an album charcer or two around their neck.
We're like, oh, we shouldn't have done that. But when you have the hit rate that the Cowboys have draft wise, that that remains something to be excited about. So they're building the right way. As far as how they're building through the draft, You've seen them now really get out there in free agency, maybe not as much as a lot of people would like to believe, but we talk about the addition of Jason Peters, Anthony Barr, give me
another t Y Hilton. Um, the list goes on and on it then previous to this year, jay Ron Curse, Malie Cooker. I mean they're making moves and free agency that are putting pieces Jonathan Hankins, the acquisition that the trade acquisition this year, That's what I was looking for. So they they're addressing positions of need and they're throwing talent at it be at the draft and by way of free agency. So that's promising. But um was doing in the off season to tweak I wish they would
do all that work in the off season. Well that's my thing. What do you feel there they're missing in off season free agencies? What you're yeah, yeah, of course the draft always happens. I think you can look at it both ways because I see what you're saying, and you're not wrong. Um. But I've always been of the concept of free agents. The free agency pool as a whole for me also includes free agents that wore a
Cowboys helmet the year preseason. I agree with you, So like, retain your guys, guys that you know and that have been in the bill. Then you know their work ethic, you know what they're about. If they're able to keep Tony Pollard, for example this offseason, That for me is a huge free agency acquisition. Yeah. Now, most wouldn't view it that way because they'd say, oh, well, you know, we were talking about getting someone out from outside the building.
Well you're not wrong in thinking that way, But I think it needs to add to you know, who are if you keep Donovan Wilson, that's a huge free agency get right, Cowboys have a laundry list of free agents in house that they need to try to keep. Here, Layton vanderesh right, these are players that other teams are going to be actively going for. You're going to be
bidding against other teams for these types of talent. The names that I just mentioned, and in several more so, if you can retain them, that means you won those battles. That means you did acquire big free agency names, even if by retaining them is what I'm saying. Who's the number one name right now? Who's the number one free agent Dallas Cowboys player? Right now? It have to be Tony Pollard, right right, It's probably Tony. This is a
list put out by Oh thanks Beamer. This is a list put out by Greg Rosenthal just a couple of weeks ago. This is prior to the playoffs, and Tony Pollo towards ranked number twenty on that list of NFL free agents. Entering into twenty twenty two, he's probably higher on that list now. The injury might be something that keeps him out of the top ten. But there's three Philadelphia Eagles in the top eight of that list. Because guess what, they go out and they work free agency,
they go and resign some of these guys. I want to go get some of that talent. I want to go get some talent out there that you can supplement with the draft, and then from the draft, whatever you don't supplement, then you can pick it up in the middle of the season, like t Y Hilton's and the Jonathan Hankins. Do you believe that the Eagles aggressiveness in this offseason contributed to their position at their end right now? Absolutely? I think it looked they looked at their quarterback and
they said, Wow, Jalen Hurts is a good quarterback. Did they say he's an elite quarterback? Go do it all on your own. No, they didn't say that. I think that's what you have to do. With Dak Prescott right now, I think coming into this year with Jalen Hursts, I think they said, we're gonna put so much talent around you that you can't mess it if you mess it up, like you know that you're the problem, You're the issue, Yeah, which is what happened. He hasn't messed it up yet.
You know what I would love to see as we sit here and talk about free agents, just kind of from the aspect of an in house guy. Yes, you want to see what Jalen Tilbord has And I honestly would still double back at wide receiver in the draft, and that's a conversation to come, but man, it would be exciting to consider what an entire offseason in training camp, you know, would do for t Y Hilton's chemistry with
Dak Prescott. There's something there and I feel like it just didn't get explored enough, especially we talked about one target, one catch, fifteen yards and you know, the biggest game of the season in San Francisco. But I feel like there is something there. So I think t Y Hilton will be a wonderful bridge player in that position, even if you double back in the draft and hoping that Jalen Tilber takes that next step. I think t Y Hilton could be the cool hand loop opposite Ceedee Lamb
in that equation. And I'm also looking forward to hopefully Michael Gallup getting back to being MG thirteen, the pre injury version. Do you think he could be better next year? Who Michael Gallup? Yes? Do you think he can take a bigger leap back into what he was prior to the injury just with an off season full of healthy Yes, he'd be that far, that much more removed time wise from the injury itself. And you're working on I'm not
just gonna sound bad. He's working on the areas of his game that he needs to improve upon, like in particularly right, you know what I'm saying, Like the fine focus on improving on those areas versus working on trying
to get healthy. It's two separate entities. And I think that he was working on trying to become healthy this all season right so that he can be available, versus he wasn't working on the areas that that now are highlighting that he needs to address, which is getting out of his brakes right, the muscular endurance, right, all those type of things. Those are things he needs to prove upon. Now that he is healthy, he could focus on those
because now he's not worried about his injury. Yeah. I also, I mean going back to the Dak conversation, I was looking it up a minute ago, but you look at Jalen Hurts in that situation, specifically in Philadelphia being in the NFC title game. He's also on a rookie contract, so they have some money elsewhere to go and spend, because if they were, I think he's got like a one point seven million dollars a cap hit this year. Next year it's gonna be four point seven, which is
still nothing versus what is forty nine? Well forty nine. Yeah, but you talk about what Jalen Hurts market value is right now, resolve that he hurts market value of what he would be if you resigned him right now forty four. Yeah, So he's that changes your roster? Yeah, I agree, I agree, totally agree, And so there but a little bit of space. But with the space that they did have, they stress what I'm saying. I'm tell abo, Yeah, Phil and again we're gonna talk about this stuff all season. I don't
think this roster was the problem. I don't think the roster was a problem. I don't think the roster was a problem last year. I don't think the roster was a problem this year. It was the execution. It was execution. Doesn't the execution fall back on the roster. I think that Dak Prescott is capable in his current state. I think he's very capable of putting his team in a
winning position. I think I don't think that he did. Okay, now, the other people who played a role in that, but in terms of somebody who was in has a huge who has an ability to drastically change the dynamic in the outcome of the game, who gets the ball in his hand every play. He did not do what he wanted to do or what he was even capable of doing, and that was a problem for him the whole second half of the year. I mean the whole year really,
but especially the second half of the year. Right, you talk about the seventeen interceptions over fourteen games, like, that's not playing winning football. He's capable of reading coverages, He's capable of making the right decision. Those are the things that got him in problem. In a situation it wasn't the the lack of velocity, It wasn't always the ball location.
But those are things that he can approve upon still too, right, So it's not a lack of It's not as like he can't attain these characteristics, he can't attain this level of excellence. He just isn't there right now. Yeah, for me, it's it's just in the aspect of interceptions. It's and I mentioned this before, just in a slump. When it comes to that. He when you're in a slump, be it as a quarterback, as a picture. You saw Brett Maher get into that slump out of nowhere. It's hard
to break out of that slump. For whatever reason. It could be execution, which is definitely a thing decision making which goes to execution, and then you have bad luck because you have the receivers tipping the balls up and creating an interception. It's just you can't seem to get out of that vortex. And you've seen that kind of frustration Dak Prescott's face after some of those interceptions later in the season, where he's just sitting there on the
grass like what the hell is going on here? And it was it reminds me of what Ezekiel Elliott was dealing with a couple of seasons or so ago the Pombos, And he was dealing with the rash of fumble, something that he for the most part, hadn't been known for, and all of a sudden he was putting the ball on the ground time and time and time again. And at some point in that season, about the midpoint, he really started to dial in on it, him and running
backs coach Skip Pete and they got it fixed. Whence the last time you remember Ezekiel Elliott fumbling the ball either Hie and like the past two seasons. So when you look at it from that aspect, I'm confident that
you're addressing. While while the slump did occur and that sucked and he just couldn't get out of that vortex, well now you have an entire offseason to work out coming out of that vortex mentally, and much like Ezekiel Elliott was able to finally escape the Bermuda triangle of those fumbles, I'm confident Dak Prescott will be able to
do so because he's This is not Dak Prescott. For those that are saying, oh, well, this is I think I saw a tweet on the plane ride back from from Santa Clara or someone was like, well, no, that's just Dak Prescott roverting back to that Prescott are you talking about he had gold rookie season. Just historically, historically he has not turned the ball over. That's been his calling card. So that's proof that this is just completely
out of the norm. This is an aberration for Dak Prescott, and I'm I look forward to him repairing it because I'm confident that he can't. Yeh, yeah, but this is not a personnel issue. You can always improve your personnel. But this this season's failure. Sure, because any team that doesn't win a Super bowls failure. I don't care what you say, right, agreed, it was not personnel. So everybody's pointing finger towards a front office. I think that front
officer doesn't done an immaculate job. Now, have they done it the way that I would like them to do it. No, they've done it a discount Dovia check way. But they still find a way to put together one hell of a wrong. No, you're right, They've done a great job of going out and finding bargains and finding guys that are going to make an impact, and they're gonna do it on a cheap, which is a huge key of winning games in the NFL. So credit to them and
doing so. Scouting was about to say, is incredible. You look at the draft in what they've done. They drafted another starter this year in Tyler Smith. He's going to be a starter for a long time. He had Ceedee Lamb two years ago, Michael Parsons two years ago or three years ago for two d But here's the thing. I agree with you halfway. Okay, I'll meet you halfway. Meet me at the top of the mountain. I'm halfway. I'm gonna get you half halfway. You can get out
come down. I think the roster was good enough to make it work if you had somebody who was the reason, the guy, and you expected that to be Dak Prescott. Yes, and that didn't happen. He wasn't the guy. But I still think Dak is a great quarterback here, I really do. I think he's a really, really good quarterback. But is he good enough to be the reason that you win a Super Bowl? No, he needs help around him to do that. I agree with you. I totally which means
how where roster wasn't good enough. Okay, I see what you're saying there. I can see your point. Yeah, I believe, and I've said at a gazillion times on this show. He needs a running game exactly, he needs he Tony Pollard was a piece of that help and he went down. He was. But so then you gotta start peeling back to the layers. Okay, Tony Pollard got hurt. Zeke was ineffective. Okay, Zeke's not what he used to be. Everybody understands that. He understands that. But what do you have to go
back to what creates those holes? Offensive line? There you go. So it's fine too. I said it yesterday. I I'm a fan. I was like, they have to get back to emphasizing bullyball up front. And if they were able to do that, then once they secure that solid front line, then you could do whatever the heck you want to passing wise with Dak. Yeah, but still that doesn't change his decision making. I I don't always agree nor listen to national personalities. I like to form my own opinions.
I saw this yesterday after I had already said this on a couple of calls throughout the morning. Our friend David Hellman, of course, formerly at Dallas Cowboys dot com, now at Fox. He said, and this is a tweet that I agree with completely, said Sunday, emphasize something I think we already knew. Dak Prescott isn't good enough to be and he capitalized these two words. The reason his team wins. The brutal truth, though, is that I'm not sure there are more than two to four of those
guys in the NFL right now, which I agree. Two of those four are in the playoffs still, and they're both on the AFC side. That's Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes. He said, Dak Prescott needs more help, and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with admitting that. No, nothing wrong. He's a really, really good quarterback. He's he's not there. It's just like when I first came out and said that he's a play action quarterback, people are like, oh my god,
no disrespect. It's okay, it's okay. He's valuable to your organization, no doubt. So you pay him because he's valuable to your organization, but understanding the parameters and what he can and can't do. You need to make sure that you supplement it with the proper tools and resources around. Gotta have the right talent around him. All right, let's take our first break. When we come back, I want to I want to talk to cowboys National Loop. Let's go.
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nose Walker. I'm Kyle Yeoman's it's time now to talk to Cowboys Nation one final time on a Talking Tuesday here for the twenty twenty two campaign. Let's start things off across the pond. Let's go out to Italy. We're our friend. Marco now joins us. You're on Talking Cowboys. Marco, You're on Talking Cowboys. How's it going, Hey, guy's good morning.
Thank you for having me again. Of course, what's on your mind, Marco, I wanted to share my Matthew with you and hear you know what you're think about it. In my opinion, there are reasons for hope. Last year's problems penalties, reds on offense, run defense, they've been largely addressed, and personally, I can enjoy a similarity with the Green Bay Pakers of the early nineties when they lost three times against the Cowboys in the playoffs and they eventually
came back to in the Super Bowl. If you look at the last three years, Cowboys team has constantly improved six and ten, twelve and five, lost in the World Card Game, twelsand five US in the Division ground. So then the question becomes is that the right guy to carry this team to the victories? Well he's not Brett fab who led those Bakers, not Tom Brady or even Joe Barrow. Team of the side. Who is, guys? Is
it your contents or Matthew Stafford? Because if the team is excellent, Matthew Stafford can win a Super Bowl and that can certainly play at Stafford's level. So give him an ex team. N the game changing player in free agency who can also set the tone for the entire team. Consistency is the key, right The Rams did it with all be Jane Burmiller, the Niners who did it with McCaffrey, the Cowboys did it back in the nineties, which I was hailing then senders. So that would be my recipe
for for for next year, for the off season. Um, I hang up, I'll listen to you know your your view on what I say. I just want to say, thank you, thank you, thank you for your excellent coverage during the year. A lot of you guys. You make me feel there with you. It's wonderful to to to you know, to listen to you and to participate from time to time. Good blessed, thank you, thank you, thank you so much. Really appreciate that. Marco, there's an extra seat open if you if you really want to come
over and come over to the US side. Uh, he brings up. Excellent point. I leave their food, Huh would you leave their food? And no way. I'll be over in Italy by the way, and there in September. I think, I think that's when I got to link up with Marco. I'm gonna have to link up with Marco to get out there. I don't know what part we're going around Marcos. Dude, I've literally never been over there, so stop chill, chill.
It's like a one time things. But he brought up some some great points because positivity is hard to come by right now because I'm angry, everybody's angry, everybody's disappointed. I'm furious, curious. I grew up a Cowboys fan. I want to see a championship game. I almost cussed there, but I didn't. The thing with the thing with what he said, though, is totally realistic where it happens before. Teams just can't get over that one hump, and for
some reason, that's the San Francisco forty nine ers. But you can't let this be your peak. You can't let it be six and ten, twelve and five to the wildcard, twelve and five to the divisional round and then tank off after that. You gotta keep building, which is the goal of the guys on the other side of the building.
What do you think about what he had to say? Though, I love it um silver lining, because you know, most dart clouds do have them, and it's it's not um, you know, disingenuous to kind of point out in the say, hey, well while this, you know, all of this darkness exists, and we can talk about this and we'll continue too. There are silver liners. We just talked about the way the Cowboys are drafting. They're doing phenomenal work there. But yeah,
long story short, they have taken another step forward. This is a team again most had written off before the ball was kicked off in week two or in week one. Think about all the people that were and and Cowboys fans that were saying, let's just go yeah, watching the season away because you don't have Randy Gregory, Lyle Collins or Mark Cooper Mark Cooper. So at several points in the off season and then again in the season after the Green Bay loss, this team isn't They're one and
done after the loss in Jacksonville. This team is one and done after the loss in Washington. Week A team they're worlding into the playoffs like this, this team is one and done. And it's against TB twelve, who's never lost to them, And it's in the postseason, and it's in TV twelves house, and and and and they go out there and they walk TB twelve like a puppy. And now did they get the job done ultimately. No, no, they did not get the job done ultimately, because the
goal ultimately is to win the Super Bowl. But they did. To Marco's point, they made another step forward. And if they continue with that that pattern, then what's the next step forward for twenty twenty three the NFC Conference Championship game. So they're they're on the right track. They're they're not moving at the speed at which even they would like to be moving at because they'd like to be playing this weekend in the Conference champions and then two weeks
from now. But they are moving forward, and to say that they aren't, or to imply that they aren't, would be completely inaccurate. What do you think I liked it? It's pretty much what we just finished stadium in terms of surrounding. You know, a quarterback, Go get a big name free agent, or not even big name, but impact free agent. Yeah yeah, just load up. It's the last time they went and added a impact free agent. Whop that wasn't the free agent was a trade that was
mid season. That's probably the closest thing, though, the closest thing. I think that's probably right. You having mine just out of curiosity, Well, honestly, I was asking, well, let's say this position, which side of the ball. Yeah, offense, either offense offense. You're gonna say receiver run. Yeah, no, I honestly, honestly think three letters. Honestly from say three letters, you don't know for me? Who is the three letters? Like? Oh yeah, people are crazy. It was a draft though.
People aren't crazy. I'm talking about the O center. Oh yeah. I was like, don't say that for me. I'm gonna say center, really center in the guard I think he had just played. He leveled. I I like him. I'm on record saying I like him. I don't think he's enough. I've been on record of saying I don't think he's enough for three years now. So I mean so I don't I remember how much I want to tie with the year. I love his effort. I think he's too small. I like his effort. I like his effort, I like
his tenacity. I like all those things. I just think he's too light. You should definitely have some old line questions, because Connor McGovern is a free agent. Are you moving well? You you are moving Tyron Smith back to left Tyckle. That's gonna happen better if if if I'm Will McClay, if I'm playing you know, Jerry Jones. I'm going out there and I'm securing a big name center in a big name guard, and I'm locking it in. M But don't you have your guard? No left guard, Tyler, let's
talk about you know what. I like this idea. We just become Okay, I like this is turning into a whole show that we're gonna use next week. I want to talk about the offensive line stated the offensive line. I want to say, yeah, I want to talk about it, because it's gonna start to become a conversation of Tyrn. When is the end of the rope there? When is the end of the rope? At Zack Martin? At some point this year, you think, like now, like he's done and he's played his last game as cowboy. I don't
agree with it. I think he I don't necessarily agree either, but I don't think you're far off. I think he's done feeling holes. M Okay, Well, we're gonna save this the next week. We're gonna save this the next week. We got a show on Tuesday. We're gonna save it for that. All right, Let's go to Anthony and Rhode Island. Anthony, you're on Talking Cowboys. It's great to be on Talking Cowboys with you all. Yesterday you made a comment about get used to it because they're not getting rid of them.
And when you look at Dak Prescott in his seven years and you look at the salary that he's going to be commanding to get next year, I think it's like forty millions the cap. Yeah. It's like when you look at the two teams that drafted their quarterbacks before Prescott, are they still with their team? No? No, And they said, hey, listen, we gotta move on these guys on cutting it, and they did. The Cowboys are not really like they don't have to commit to him. If they commit to him,
then they're saying, well, you're on man. But sometimes when you look at yes that game and there was two crucial interceptions, it's like, he can't go there, he can't throw that ball and put that defense back on the field. When they did everything that they could for the Cowboys to win that game. He put his team behind the eight ball. That rookie quarterback, I'll played him. Yes, he was only asked to do what he could do, and
he did it. And Zach Dak Prescott could have been a little better with the ball, and he was like his old self, just throwing it Millie Willie, I can beat that guy and he couldn't. So Anthony, really quickly, I want to ask, are you saying that you want to move on from Dak you would like the franchise to move on? Say it? What's your chess? Well, I'm saying that in seven years cutting us to where we
could be. So therefore I'm saying, you know what, cut your tides, move on, and I'm saying it's time to start over again. He did say it with his chess. Thank you, Thank you for the call, Anthony, appreciate you, Anthony and Rhode Island. I don't agree at all. I really don't, and plus it would be really hard to move on Dak Prescott. I am entitled to my opinion. I do not agree, But at the same time, I understand the frustration because this is gonna be year number
eight and this is where you've gotten. Brock Purty is tied for all time career playoff wins with Dak Prescott. They have the same amount of playoff wins. Brock Purty his first playoff game was a week ago. I mean, at some point the frustration built. Here's where I am with it, and Anthony, first of all, thank you for
calling in, and you know, great points. I don't see his eyebrows raise up because he said back to his old ways, and we just said, we just talked about if he was back to his old ways, he wouldn't have been throwing the interceptions, So that's kind of an oxymoron. I would say this, the two interceptions, as I said yesterday, indefensible and I'm not going to try to defend it. They shouldn't have happened. Period. They can't happen, and especially on a stage that big, they can't. They just can't.
But it's also true that the Cowboys are not going to move on from Dak Prescott. And when you look at the total body of work, he's shown enough for you to believe that if you put the right talent around him, this team can win the Super Bowl Dak Prescott at quarterback. And that's really just the bottom line of it. And when you say he's going into year eight, you're right, completely factual. He's going into the year eight. You'd like to see more than you know a couple
of playoff wins, etcetera, etcetera. But you know the difference between Brock Purty even in these seven or eight or nine games versus Dak Prescott's seven seasons, it's McCarthy wasn't here the entire time that Dak Prescott has been in the Cowboys uniform, Dak Prescott has changed head coaches changed
on him, offensive coordinators. You go from Garrett Collin plays to Scott Lenahan being handed those keys to Kellen Moore, and then Kellen Moore was very green in the game because Kelly Moore went from backup quarterback to almost instant promotion to being quarterbacks coach, and then from quarterbacks coach the very next year he was offensive coordinator. That's a lot of change that has occurred in the seven years Dak Prescott has been here. He's only really had stability
to pass three. Yeah, So if you talk about continuity, perty, yes, Perdy just got into the league, but Perdy didn't have to go through the same amount of change. Play correct, it's plug and play. So that's why those two things don't So is that on coaching most to apples, it's just how attrition has negatively impacted Dak Prescott's first four seasons, and then you had twenty twenty was the COVID year pandemic.
So you got a new head coach coming in while the pandemic is happening, and you know you quarterbacks coach change from John Kitten to Doug nus Myrin. All of these things have taken place, and Dak Prescott has mostly continued to win games. But if you're asking why those wins haven't translated into the postseason, what I just told you A large part of it is roster changes, coaching changes,
assistant coaching changes, positional coaching changes, all of those things. Now, nothing I said excuses away those two interceptions, and they won't one because kind of my point is there are other teams that go through that stuff too. Now head coaching changes most of the teams that are in the NFL right now. Actually I take that back. Look at the Eagles. The Eagles have Nick Sirianni. He wasn't the
head coach two years ago. He was the same thing coming in a year after what Mike McCarthy brought in. I mean, coaching changes affect things, but at the same time, you've just got to be better to avoid all of those things, all of those boxes that need to be checked. At some point, your quarterback is gonna have to check all those and Dak hasn't done that. I will say this to your point again, if you look at those two interceptions, because it's the most recent sample size, so
let's play off of it. You as the quarterback, are being paid to help mask a lot of issues that need to be masked. Yeah, be it in the coaching staff for the you know the turnover in the coaches quite literally in the job description, it's right there. So when you throw, when you do things like throw those two interceptions on the stage of that magnitude, not only are you not masking the other weaknesses on the team, but now you become a part of why the team
is and being successful. So that's why it makes it that much more difficult to swallow the pill. And it goes back to what I said a few weeks ago. When you know someone is better than what they're putting in front of you, yes, it's going to be frustrating. So Cowboys fans, you should be frustrated. You've seen Dak Prescott through for almost five thousand yards while not turning
the ball over. You've seen it. So then when you see a season like twenty twenty two when he's pressing and he's doing a little bit more hero ball than necessary and it puts the team in bad positions. But then the very next week you see him walk the goat right, or you see him going to Minnesota, and contextually at the time, Minnesota was the number two seeded team, and oh, you're not going to go into Minnesota at
forty to three. So when you know that Dak Prescott is capable of leading to the offense that can do that to teams, and then you see him go out and have such a bad game like he did against the forty nine ers, it should be frustrating, and that frustration should tell you something. It tells you that your ex dictations of that particular individual, that particular side of the ball are higher than even you might be willing to admit to yourself, because if they were low, you
wouldn't be this frustrated, you wouldn't be this angry. You simply say to yourself, well, we knew, we knew it, we knew it. Yeah, you know what, I know? What do you know? I know that today, Kellen Moore is interviewing for the Carolina Panthers Hey coaching job, and Dan Quinn is interviewed for the Arizona Cardinals. Second interview with So what happened to that continuity is forty eight hour roll right, yeah, get out of there. So second interview
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you're on Talking Cowboys. What's going on? Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my call. So chiming in on this discussion about DAK. I want to share my perspective and get your input, especially yours Isaiah, because you're a former quarterback and so your opinion about what happens in the
coaching room and for the quarterback is critical. But on the following up on Patrick's point, my position has been for quite some time that a quarterback like Dak is certainly talented enough to take the team to the super Bowl. He's proven it, okay. The problem seems to me that he's not being coached, and this point was finally made on Cowboys Break yesterday by the announcers there from the outside perspective of a fan, if the man has the talent and he can perform like he did in Tampa
the week before, it is his judgment. It is his decision making, and he's not the most accurate of quarterbacks, as Isaiah has commented many times, but he's good enough to win. So my position has been it appears that he's not being coached. Maybe the coaches like Kellen Moore are too young, he's doing schemes, but what looks like
and the question is this fixable by coaching. If you have a quarterback who's not Mahomes, who's not Josh Allen and has not earned the right to make decisions in the game, it seems to me that the coaches are the one that should be putting him in a position to use his talent, and they need to be coached. Ten decision making be coached. And when you have a quarterback who's not the most accurate, can't you design schemes where he can be successful because there have been many
before him. That's what I'd like to know your opinion on. What do you think? Appreciate the call Alan in Florida And this has been a conversation. It has been I think you're You're exactly right, and I think there has to be a topic of conversation. I'm about to throw this to Isaiah. I just wrote a name on a piece of page. You already know what I'm to say. I want you to tell me who was the most influential person for Dak Prescott in his early formative quarterback years.
What was his Who was the most impressive, most influential guy? J John Kittner. So we had this conversation off line yesterday a little bit. Is this a conversation that needs to be had again? You don't have to go get John specifically John Buddy, Okay, I don't I don't know. I don't know what what what Dougni calls behind the scenes, I don't know, right, So I can't sit here and say so, first of all, thinking for the call, because
I think that was a very informative, insightful call. It was um And there's things that we talk about offline often. I don't know what Doug Nasmyer does. I don't know his coaching style. I don't know how how he holds Dak accountable. I don't know those things. So I can't speak on what's going on there. I can speak to what John Kittener brings, and I can speak to what John kitten a standard is and how he is as a man and his character and how he goes about
his business. And you can look back at the development of Dak Prescott when John Kinna was the quarterbacks coach a level on the Kitten. I know also from other sources and things within the organization that there hasn't been the same level of accountability within the locker room in terms of holding guys to a standard. I do know that it's it's changed as this generation has changed. As Yeah, that's not even default the Cowboys specifically, that's just the game.
It's evolution, right, evolution the game, the style of players, style players, yes, society, how players receive coaching, it's changed. One thing that hasn't changed is dog gone good coaching. And John kitten was one heck of a quarterback in the league for a very long time. Much like that's my good experience as well. But I know Kittna personally, and I could speak and I could stand on a mountain to say they need John Kittna in that room coaching up Dak. I'm not saying that to say that
Doug Ney's a goal away because I don't. Again, I don't know him on a personal level, but I do know that Dak Prescott's production drastically improved when John Kittena was holding him responsible by the quarterback position. I mean,
it's hard to argue you saw it early. Part of the reason why he went from a fourth round quarterback, a guy that was not expected to play as a starter for years at a time, if ever, to being one of the highest performing young quarterbacks in the NFL for a reason, that's one of the reasons, one of the multiple reasons. And it's not saying that Doug nuts Meier has done a bad job. I think Doug is a great dude. I think he's a good coach. It just just what we've seen and what we have seen
and haven't seen. At the same time, it's a conversation, you know, good good stuff, Ellen, And it's something that offline yesterday we were kind of volleying around the office a little bit as far as you know, what moves should be discussed. And again, you know, Nut Smyers most certainly not done a poor job. So that's not what we're saying here. But the evidence is there, and you know how I am science. The evidence is the evidence.
The evidence is when John kitten was brought on to be quarterbacks coach for the Cowboys, Dak Prescott quite literally hit the next level, found another gear that very same season under John Kittner, and he wasn't turning the ball over, he wasn't making those mistakes. So I realized that John is seemingly pleased with his position at brother Ship. Yeah. Uh but mister kittna uh if if you don't mind a conversation, you know, I think it's it's worth a conversation.
What are he's doing next week? What he was doing on Tuesday at eleven am? And you think that's that's a high that's a high character individual. Right, You got a call you got a phone call in Yeah, that's a high character individual. I say, you got a phone calls? You want to talk about somebody who who walks to his own beat? That's Jerry Kitty. That dude is a man with Can we get him to walk to our beat next week? That's a phone call. Would be a guest Clay and Jerry Jones and I would love to
even just pick his brain. I'm not even saying like to get hired. I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about I would like to even sit him down here and pick his brain on, just get his take on. It might be something we look into. We're going into off season, so why not? Why not? All right, because we know he's been watching. We know he's been watching. Oh yeah he So here's here's the schedule moving forward. Everybody, So, this is our last daily show, Oh tech Nabby, Yep,
we are done for the week. We will be back on Tuesdays, every single Tuesday. It's a talking Tuesday. We're not gonna always take phone calls because we only have one show a week, but we're gonna do ten am Central Time as one. We'll stream it when we'll be live ten to ten fifty issue, I guess because there's a show at eleven whole hour, and now I don't think it's technically a whole hour this year because they've scheduled it via like right on the top of the hours,
so probably about a fifty minute show. But every Tuesday from ten am to ten fifty we will be live on Talking Cowboys throughout the off season. Once again, everybody that's listening throughout the year, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. You guys are awesome. We see Cowboys Nation, We absolutely see you. Patrick. Has been a pleasure getting to have you on the show, and it's been a fun first rude for you with you guys. Man.
Oh yeah, looking forward to one's about to say one down. Let's let's keep rolling, keep on rolling. Who knows, at some point we may have that fourth chair. It's still wide open you listen to it. May be we're gonna finally try and w w r D. We're gonna finally try and do it. But we've got Isaiah stand back. Isaiah as always, great job, buddy, An keep after it. And then Chris Beam, thank you for everything. He Beamer. Been a lot of short nights so you've been running
the ship back there in the back beast people. I thought he was gonna say something. I guess he didn't give us leak. We'll have to turn down stuff to in here. He was like, you don't know what I'm up against. I used to I used to run it back there. I do. I do know what he's up against, and I usually he's quicker than I ever was. So I give him fourth. I give him the benefit of the doubt. All right, man, Thank you so much, everybody.
Thank you Cowboys Nation. Talking Cowboys Nation will be back, Baby be back next Tuesday, ten am Central Time for Chris being Isaiah stand back Patrick nose Walker one final time from the twenty twenty two season. I'm Kyle Yeoman's We'll see you next week on Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
