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a good way. It is a good way. But I can't never no way in a good way. Spice. How's it going? Everybody? Everybody good? Swell tastic. Man. I'm a little upset. Why is that? Because I I have been celebrating all night and this morning because you get a big ESPN check that came into oh good, Oh, but but I just celebrate. I mean, I felt like I thought that I thought the NFC East was ours. I thought last night the Eagles to win big game. Did you toast yourself last night? I did? Oh? I did?

I did? And so I come in and I've had several people let me know that that was not a lock last night, that there are still some math that needs to happen. And obviously, Pete, we thought we were going to get you to explain all of this. I don't do typebreakers, not it's not my thing. Tell me what it was? Premature, that's what you're saying. And as my wife says, anything that starts with premature can't be good. So true, so true. So anyways, let's outline why skip right,

I'm going right over there. Uh, let's outline why the playoff scenario is what it is because the Cowboys have not clinched the NFC East yet they have not clinched it yet. They can clinch it however this week with either a Dallas win, Philadelphia loss, or a combined one point five wins from so basically two wins from a number of difference too. So there's a lot of math in there's the reason why they did not clinch yesterday. There was a chance in week fifteen that they could

have clinched. But the reason why is because you needed a slew of games to go your way prior to your game, even I'm talking Saturday early Sunday, to go your way, and it didn't. So it kind of made it to where even if Philadelphia beat Washington last night, if they go into the final week and Philadelphia were to win out, Dallas were to lose out, Philadelphia would indeed win the division. Here yourself say that again, that's I mean, that's exactly what it is. I don't think

that's going to happen. It's ninety nine point five percent chance that the Cowboys win the division right now. The magic number is like point three seven two five, Like it's you know, win a game, win a game, and or somebody else loses for you, and you're good. You're Golden You don't even honestly, you don't even have to win or lose out and Philly win out. But if everything else goes to plan and somebody else loses along

the way, you still win the division. Damn. It's really weird and I don't honestly, I can't go through it all. It's a lot in the head. So there's nothing that outlines is specifically. Here's one scenario I do know with an assist from Chris yesterday because fans are asking if we're jumping ahead here. If the Cowboys, Packers, and Bucks all have the same record at the end, which means who gets the one seed, Tampa Bay would win out. Yeah, Dallas would win out and Green Bay would lose one

more is the most likely scenario. Yes, it's conference record, correct, Chris. Because they don't all play each other, so there's no head to head involved. So Cowboys at the moment eight and one in the conference, eight and two is green Bay, six and four is Tampa. But why wouldn't Tampa be ahead of us being that they wanted to head to hit matchup. The headead does not come into play when

it's a three team parlay. Yeah, so if all three teams are tied, the Cowboys have the advantage, and seeing that they would have to win out for that to be the case, most likely they would have an eleven and one record in the NFC, so they would be the top seed. So that's the best case scenario to get to the one seed. They're kind of sitting pretty if they just keep winning. I just want to make sure that I was I wasn't the only one that wasn't worried about the NFC East is more so worried

about the conference. No, Okay, No, there's a lot of people asking about both. Okay, so everybody's jumping way ahead. Well I'm an NFC He's just wouldn't the rest of your games exactly? Just just take care of business, right, get it done. Yeah. The thing about the conference records, if if if Dallas wins out, the lowest they could be is the three seed. And the only reason they could be the three seed is if them and Tampa Bay in the season with the same record, because head

to head then comes into play. If it's just them two, green Bay would be the one, then you would have Tampa Bay as the two, and you would be the three. Went out, you're at least the three seeds, Beam Casitas as it stands right now, Beamer, if you have opportunity to check this out. If we were to three seed, who we play? And if we were to two seed, who will we play? Right now? It's the Saints the seventh. If it ended today, it would be the Saints. Yeah,

that's two v right at six? Is San Francisco right now? Yes? Okay, yeah, there's really well right now, yes, you don't unless Tampa Bay were to lose a just another shocker game, much like they did last week. So it's definitely possible. It could definitely happen. It could absolutely happen, and the madness might just be be underway because of what we saw last week, the Lions beating the Cardinals on the forth on Tampa losers, have them play the Saints. Yeah, they're

not playing the Saints again. They got Carol, They have Carolina twice, and then they have the Jets their number. It's like a kryptonite thing. Yeah, exactly. But if unless that happens, unless Tampa Bay loses one of those three games against Carolina twice or the Jets once, which is a long shot, then there's really no way that the Cowboys are the two seed. They're either the one seed or the three seeds. Sweet, it was in terrible ship shape.

Right right now you're playing Minnesota. Oh, Minnesota, not the Saints. No, it's Minnesota right now, okay because of their win. H yeah, there's seven and seven. I'm looking at the sheet to my right and it says the seventh seed right now is Minnesota? Interesting left, so well, it's the wall to my left. The Cardinals right now are in ugly spot. Ugly? Are they gonna win their division? They may not even make the playoffs? Oh, come on, I don't know that

might be done. What are you talking about? They just lost the Detroit, They have Indy, they have Dallas in Seattle to finish out the season. Yeah, they'll steamroll Seattle. Okay, okay, I can't dispute that. Okay, but division again, and may lose two of their last three. Now Arizona would play the Rams ended today in San Francisco, would end up playing Tampa Bay. Well, bottom line, heck, I'm sorry. So good? You know, do you have another another bottle? Yeah? That's

the exciting part is you got to celebrate. Now you get to turn around and celebrate again. You have an excuse getting another bottle that it is you can go celebrating, and then you're gonna celebrat the one seed whenever that comes up as well. It's coming there. You go. All right, Rob, let's get into some news and notes. We we hit it backwards this morning. We went we went from playoffs scenarios first into now. But what's going on around this

Cowboys team? Cowboys are back to practice today. I believe insert Isaiah headshake here. I believe it's going to be a very light practice once again on a Wednesday. Uh. I'm not sure if it's straight up walk through style like it was last week, but it's going to be pretty light. I imagine it'll be more heavy on the film study because their opponent just played last night and they've got a It helps that you played them two weeks ago, but you got a cram in that that

part of it. The film study as well. Uh No, I was just gonna it's just one kind of recap. So we're virtual meetings this week. Yes, they're watched primarily all film today most likely, and then walk through and it's Wednesday. Um, yeah, that's what Mike said it would probably light light hurt today and then you have a normal practice is Thursday. They've got two padded practices left this season, so he's been saving them like they practiced

in Shell's last Thursday. You're ten years too early, bro, Yeah, that's all it is, too Yeah, no more two a days, just ten years too early. Two days are gone, more money, less wear and tear. It's not a bad humble. You're not bad, not bad. So they're back to work. They're meeting virtually. They had another positive or at least a COVID reserve list situation with add and Dirty, their defensive line coach. So cross your fingers for no more cases the rest of the week. Man, there's gonna be a

severe lack of that is not British position. You need that in eloquence on the sideline this week. No more British eloquence at least this week from add and Dirty, one of the one of my favorite position coaches, I think, and everybody's favorite, because he's become a star thanks to the sounds of the sideline that you can find with the subtitles for the sub titles that are nice in cursive because of his British acts Alex Lilly. Also, the Pro Bowl rosters are unveiled tonight in prime time to

make you wait all the way till seventh Central, I believe. Yeah, so we can talk about that tomorrow. Yeah, we can make our predictions today if you want. Yeah, how many guys do you guys believe we're gonna have on the Pro Bowl? Let's go through that reserves. I'm not talk about reserves. I'm talking about just straight up there. Okay, you're saying starting in the Pro Bowl. Yes, okay, Well let's start a quarterback, right, No, that's gonna be a no.

Let's start a let's go to running down. That's a no as well. Wide receivers. Whoa, whoa, whoa? Whoa, whoa? Whoa? What are you thinking? I think Zeke gets in? Okay, I think he's got a great shot to get in. Look at look at the rushing stats. He's tied with Antonio Gibson for I think for second in the NFC. M Am I wrong about that. I'm gonna look it up. But no, you're not. Yeah, Who's I'm blinking on who's first? But he's he's right, he's right there. Who votes who

votes on us again, it's fans in. Yeah, players a good shot that he gets voted in. He's two time rushing champ. Why are you so against I'm not against him. I just don't believe it. I know what the stats d D. Cook. The run game has not been the run game. He's been very banged up. Yeah, but he's Zeke and he ran it really well early in the season and he's been pushing through it. Yeah. Ties eight sixty two Dalvin Cookson first, So Cook is the only

one that's hit a thousand yards in the NFC. And then you got the AFC where there's three guys Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mix and Nick Chubb. Derreck Henry has nine thirty seven and that dude hasn't played in like four weeks, so, which is crazy. You're right. We talked about this off air, like the rushing stats is they're down across the league those two thousand yards this year. No, And are we going to receiver next? Yeah, let's go to receivers um

maybe maybe cd CDs up there and catch. Yeah. But I they the depth on this roster kind of cancels each other out in terms of stats because they spread it around. What about tight end? So we have one pro bowler on offense is what we're seeing right now. No, we haven't gotten the offensive line. That's what I'm talking about.

That's what I'm You're saying, well, Zach Martin's flock because you don't think tight end either, Right, No, what about Dalton Schultz who has been other than maybe a George Kittle in the NFC, who else Goddard hasn't been that great? Dalton Schultz has been right up there with Goddard in terms of praise. It's hard to get over down on the other side of you got up on the wrong side of the bed. Have the vote, but people are voting. I don't know. I guess whatever whoever is voting, they're

gonna think about what's happening lately. Right, what have you done for me lately? You guys heard that song pre pre surgery Janet. Okay, So that's why Jonathan Taylor's the leading vote yet, right, Right, So Schultzenegger, had we stopped in the first six games, yeah, Schultzenegger would have been in there. Zeke would have been in there. But as of late, that's had a substantial drop off. I know you're not a stat guy. I'm not a say that's

not your thing. However, Derek, here, we gets in there based off of where he left off and where those numbers sit right now. I think. I mean, yeah, bro, he's still up there in the stat That's That's what I'm talking about, though, Like it's a question mark because he hasn't been around lately. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. No, that's a great question because that goes back to like Tyran Smith, Like, I think if Tyron doesn't miss games, he's definitely in. I think

maybe because he's missed time. We'll see what lately lately, they haven't been as productive lately, they haven't been as healthy. Lately, they haven't been able being as productive. Chris, you were going to add something there, and lately they've been the noon game. Oh yeah, so siye. Well, I'm just saying is when you play on the national stage early in the season, people see you and that's when they start voting. Pits has better numbers than Schultz. Actually, yeah, you're right.

I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Zeke Tyring, Zach, Micah parsons Um, Trayvon Diggs. Am I missing anybody? You guys aren't gonna like this, but it's gonna be outest you know that, right? What why he's a leading vote getter at Center? Is he really? Yes? I love that. Really he has something was going on with him the other day. He's been playing better. Yeah, he's been playing yes. But Chris, who's leading that whole campaign for be honest, she started early.

I don't know. There's a there's a group of faith. He's like in the top maybe one or two and vote getting Yeah, amongst fan votes like Wisconsin, alum's just stuffing the ballot marks. So telling you somebody got traffics. Fredericks out there campaigning. They're jumping around up in his campaign manager just say the hell of a job mat the fans going, hey, do they have a center that went to Wisconsin? Yeah, it's pretty good, right yeah, Yeah. Zach Martin is the highest vote getter right now out

of guards. That is crazy, that'd be awesome. Trayvon Diggs is the highest TB. So Diggs will be in pretty locked. Michael Parsons is gonna be a lock, yeah for sure. But can I just say how so we have three locks? Three locks. Yeah, pretty would you guys agree on that? Which what locks? Martin, Diggs and Parsons three locks? Yeah? Okay, and there's a couple of babies, right, am I buy myself in this one? No, I'm withing, okay, all right, But I hope none of them play in that game.

Oh yeah, I agree. I hope not of THEMMA play either. None of them we can shake like, thank you very much for your service. Now you play in a super bo Yeah, that's not I don't know that's the Pro Bowl, man. They just they've totally goofed that up. It's not the way you say. Sat Toyota Stadium in Frisco. Stop, I've lost track. It might be Miami Center, Vegas. They started moving around. I remember my first year when we went thirteen and three and we had thirteen Pro Bowlers. I

remember TiO took our whole position group. He was that was his Christmas give to us. He flew our whole position position group receivers out to the Pro Bowl, set us up, and we went out there and watched them play. Is it Hawaii? Yeah? Yeah, he looked us up. Man with friends like those you telling whatever happened? Tell give for damn too. So when you when you get plucked to NFL network or do something with them, you're flying

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don't want to live in. You can't make me. Oh, we're into our second seven. Let's let's uh, let's preview the Washington football team offense. We've already seen this Washington football team offense. Saw him two weeks ago. I saw him a couple of hours ago. Yeah, you saw him a couple hours ago. We saw him last night too. We didn't get to talk about the reactions of that game,

so let's talk about it. Uh. Went about as planned as you would think, with the issues that Washington's going through, Philadelphia being at home and kind of working off of that as well. But Washington jumped out to a ten o start, but it was Philadelphia coming out away with a win twenty seven to seventeen the final score, and like heck, Marsdi thought it was time for celebration, but not just yet. We'll get there. No, you know what, if I can this is so hard to say compliment

the Boo Eagles on anything they're running game. I was like, god, man, well I want some of that, you know, ring that defense, so we can go Zeke eighteen carries one hundred and thirty one yards. They had two hundred and thirty eight yards rushing by the end of the night, and I'm like, where were these guys? We just saw these guys they put in five hundred and nineteen yards of total offense against that they were at full steam on the defensive line.

That's what I was That's what I was surprised by. I was very surprised that these guys allowed the Eagles to run the ball on them like that, because I know they're they're they're their past rush isn't as effective as you would believe it would be. They're they're they're pretty, they're standing up a lot, They're not really rushing with a lot of technique, but they're running. They're rushing defense typically is something that I personally feel that they should

be pretty confident with. And they just got just ran through like Seaweewater yesterday. It was bad. Yeah, I'm jumping ahead, but it'd be interesting to see if the Eagles continue this and it gets to Week eighteen and maybe the Cowboys have their division sewn up, but the Eagles are really playing for something Week eight team because they're there.

That was a big win for them. I mean, they're at seven and seven, which means they're tied for that final spot because of tie breakers, though they are out of the final spot in the NFC race, so they absolutely entering the final three weeks of the year, have an opportunity at a wildcard spot. Speaking of the Washington football team offense, they didn't look much better than the defense did yesterday. Two hundred and thirty seven yards. They

had just sixty three on the ground. Gibson bottled up for fifteen carries twenty six yards, and he was bottled up the first time around against the Cowboys as well. But Garrett Gilbert former Cowboy Geasy was out there starting for Washington football team and spot duty for Taylor Heinekey and Kyle Allen, who were both on the COVID serve list. So well, you think I was so positive to say about about the wagon, I did, and I and I said before I thought it was his. The backup position

was his to lose, and he lost it. And you know, it's amazing to see what he did and spot duty on the short notice. You could see, man, he could make some throws. But boy, by the end of the night boy. He was a dusty old cowboy. Wasn't here? And you were wrong about that competition, by the way, now I'm just saying, I mean, wasn't Nobody knew that was a competition until it was a competition in the dress rehearsal game and all of a sudden Cooper rushes

playing more. It's like, oh, okay, oh yeah it was. It was Garrett Gilbert's job to lose at the backup spot, and then all of a sudden you come in and it was like, wait a second, where's where's Garrett? Where did you gotta here? Oh? Wait? But I mean, yeah, give him some credit because he came in three days ago and that's crazy, you know, kind of like he did last year in the Pittsburgh game. So, after the evaluation of both of those quarterbacks, Heineke and Gilbert, who

would you rather see starting on Sunday night? Who will we? Yeah? Double g You would rather Gilbert than Heineken? Yeah? You know him? Huh yeah, got enough tape on him. I got you. You went up against Jalen Smith last week. You want to do that again at the quarterback position too? Why not keep the party going? I know, Ford has the Marky. We want to see the Mark. That was a very interesting plan, So we're gonna go back with that.

I don't you know. My thing is I think that this defense is should be in hunt mode whoever they bring out there. I think for for our front seven um. Watching that Washington game, I was just so, I'm like, man, this is going to be absolutely horrible for them on Sunday because they came out lifeless. They had nothing, and although the Eagles had just come off of a bye,

they're fully rested. And obviously Washington was in a dog fight last week with US and it showed, and it's they're gonna be I don't know how they're gonna get prepared for a Sunday night battle versus US. I just think their offensive line is so compromised. And man, Fletcher Cox was all over them last night. We talked about it before the show, like a guy that can still make plays at a high level after so many years as Fletcher Cox. But I just can't wait to run

into these guys on Sunday. I'm with Heck, it doesn't it doesn't matter who their quarterback is Sunday. If they can't block any doesn't matter if they can't block any better than they did the first time around. And you mentioned I think they sit on the broadcast last night, Washington's on their fourth center of the season. Crazy started. Didn't have shur if they didn't have um Larson in the game, and it showed, it showed, and so the

pressure they got Cowboys did in the first meeting. Not to mention the fact that I think Gibson only had sixty yards something like that in the first meeting. They averaged three yards of carry last night. If they can't win the line of scrimmage, then it's going to be a repeat of last time around. Tell you how bad Gifts's night was. He had fifteen cares for twenty six yards. Got hit in the backfield a lot. Yeah. Yeah, our defensive line is salivating right now. Got looking at this

film seeing a tired Washington team on Tuesday. Osa nutrition are well rested, They're gon be coming in hot. There's going to be a problem for Washington. It sucks that they had to play last night and they had to turn around. I feel bad. I'm not gonna feel bad that they when they lose on Sunday, but I feel bad. A physically, they're not going to be recovered. I agree. I said it last yesterday. I mean he moved the game.

But then they've played the night game and then turn around and now they did have It wasn't even a home game. They got to fly home and then try to get back to work on a Wednesday. That's not ideal. They may have Bill probably either have Heineke or Kyle Allen back. I think so yeah. I mean, it almost had a back last night. I think one would clear protocol about but we'll see. I think I think at that point it's pretty At this point, it's pretty easy.

They may even get back for a week of practice to test out of so I think they'll be all right in terms of the quarterback position. But Brandon Shurf, you mentioned him. He was placed on the COVID nineteen reserved list, but he was placed on it yesterday, so that might get kind of tight on whether or not he's available. There's a couple guys in that rotation on that offensive line that may or may not be available. So the Cowboys defensive line certainly looking their chops at

the moment. But that brings me to my next question. Throughout the season. We've provided a lot of spotlight on that defensive line, and it has been earned by Michael Parsons, by Randy Gregory, now DeMarcus Lawrence into the mix. Those guys have earned the spotlight. But outside of Treyvon Diggs, are we underrating the rest of the Cowboys secondary for what they've been able to do? Because you're seeing the numbers of interceptions climbed for Jordan Lewis, for Anthony Brown,

Mallie Hooker has been getting in on the action. We've also mentioned Jayrn Curse, So maybe outside of Curse and Diggs, is this secondary under rated? I don't think they're underrated. I believe that they are. I think Curse has gotten all the credit and that he's due. I think we were we were shouting at the mountaintops about Curse ever since camp. Really really he's been doing well since then,

so I think he's got his due diligence. In terms of a Brown and Jay Lou, they might be undervalued, maybe it might probably probably made the best way to It's not necessarily talking about our show specifically. I'm talking as Cowboys name for sure. Now I'm talking about Yeah, those two are probably undervalued because most teams have a two or three hitted monster, and Dix takes out typically takes out the number one monster. Okay, but now you got those other two guys that have to pick up

the slack in that regard. So they are undervalued in that regard because they do make plays. Brown's made made some plays. Jay lou stepped up last game. I just think that they haven't probably been as consistent as you would have liked them to be when you start thinking about how much. I guess every time you put a value on how much money they're making you hit, there's

an expectation that comes along with it. And I think when you put that dollar next to their next to the value that they've actually presented on this team, I don't think it necessarily always adds up. But they are being productive. Yeah, no, I agree. It was I was talking to helm and yesterday and there was a national broadcast that was seeing the praises of the Cowboys secondary not just Trayvon Diggs, but Anthony Brown. Anthony Brown's bawling out.

And when you hear that nationally, it's kind of a surprise because I feel like like you've mentioned Cowboys nation locally. Everybody beats up on Anthony Brown. But and and look, he's been targeted a lot lately, pretty much ever since the Thanksgiving game when everybody, you know, yeah, they started out, they dumped out the Kate. I think I think that one was a little bit warranted in terms of him

getting talked about negative way. No, for sure, but I think I'm just saying overall this season, I think he has played well. I think he's made a lot of plays. Um. I think I think jay Ron Kursh should be serious consideration for the Pro Bowls issue too. I don't think he's gonna get in, but I think he has had such an impact the guide has not come off the field for the defense, a defense that has had by far the biggest turnaround this season. And Lee Hooker. I

asked Mike McCarthy about him yesterday or Monday. He said, that's the best game he's played for US six tackles. He was the highest rated defensive player by PFF in the game last week and first pick since the Achilles injury that they had a couple of him, And just looking at I mean, he's rounding into shape and you see it now with the way that he's closing on tackles and the interception. But you're you're right, you you say,

speak about Jordan Lewis and Anthony Brown. For me, Jordan Lewis, his physicality has been unsung, you know for such a little guy boy. He brings it in the running game and he's so aggressive and I think he's a tone setter on our defense and not a lot has been

made about that. But you know, when you talk about Anthony Brown and him being targeted, he understands it every game because of what trey Von Diggs is doing is so damned special that quarterbacks that have it at least a marble rolling in their brains are not going over to number seven side at all, And so most of

the time thirty is getting all of the targets his way. Man, we had a guy here a long time ago by the name of Larry Brown that ends up being an MVP in the Super Bowl because hey, it's a Dean Sanders on the other side. Hey, And this is what it leads to, because no one wants to go over to your side. So I'm not maybe i'm speaking that into existence for you, Anthony, but I'm just saying you know this defense all in all, and the Michael Parsons affecting.

You go back to the New York Giants tape, the Giants have basically said, we're not gonna let eleven beat us. We're gonna slide protect to wherever number eleven is. But they just left some other things to be desired from some other guys that we have. And my goodness, I don't know what how Tank finishes this season, but right now, Tank Lawrence is like, if you're gonna have a one on one matchup with him, for him, he is going to eat for the rest of the season. Man, that's scary.

The fact that he joined this defense d Law did and me imediately there were four takeaways in three straight games, and he has to do with a lot of that. He has to do with the pressure. I mean, the pick that Jordan Lewis was his doing. It's the way that he hit Mike Glennon, punched him in his mouth. Turn around in the way that he punched the ball out against actual se Quon Barkley, who hadn't fumbled at

any point throughout this season. So, I mean, d Law comes in and he's played that X factor, But who is the most valuable player on that defensive side. Because we've mentioned the Digs and the Parsons being in that player of the Year conversation, But now that they're all together and they're all playing, who is the one that makes the whole thing go? That's I mean, that's that's really hard. I mean, obviously you're gonna pick out Michael Parsons.

I'm just let me just say this, Number ninety six, Neville Gallimore. Of y'all want to watch a tree, watch Neville Gallimore. He is carrying offensive lineman like groceries right now. He is. We talk about Brent Urban and his impact of gobbling up blocks the beginning of the season and him going on ir was one of those things that you're like, man, dude, that's it's kind of hard to see because of what his impact was in the running game.

Neville Gallimore is stepped in nicely, and it looks like the way that he's playing, he must have been locked up in the room just salivating at the opportunity to get back on the field, because every snap that he's taken he is playing, I mean, he is exploding off the ball at the point of attack. There are not a lot offensive linemen that want to deal with him, but the rotation is murderous and every guy that comes

in there's no breaks at all. So it's hard to say right now because they're playing so well as a group. I'm saying Galimore, I think to make it. That's a loaded question, it is, but I think that this defense needs Gallimore. I think they need him. I think there's a lot of other positions on this team that are interchangeable, but I think that one position at the at the nose guard or whatever, detacl position, whatever you want to

call it, for him, we need him. And simply because of it, because everything to heck, we just just just spoke on. He disables offenses from just saying we're gonna come downhill and they He forces guys. Not only does he have that presence in the running game, but also in the passing game. He's able to push the pocket, He's able to force that pocket bat so he takes

away that pocket. He turns that you shape pocket into an M. You know, he turns it into an M. And these guys have to try to find up, step up and find out the little canals and and if you can't go up the middle of you're getting pressure from up the middle, where do you have to go? I go to the edges. Well, now, when you go to the edges, I got freaking Gregory and I got freaking d law right. Ellen. By the way, when we want a blitz, we can isolate your guard and bring

Parsons as well. So and then you got Osa and all these other guys that have contribute. But in terms of necessity, it has to be Gallimore. That's yeah, because quarterbacks hate middle pressure. They hated more, probably more than edge press. Absolutely. Um, I'll go Mica just because I think where would they be without him this year? Um, Randy's missed four games, Tanks miss ten, Gallimore has missed all but two. He's held this thing together in the

front seven, not at multiple positions. But I wouldn't leave. I wouldn't lose sight of Randy Gregory and what he's the impact he has had when he's been in the game. He has become their to me, their best pure pass rusher and just gifted rushing off the edge, and he's a pretty good run defender two man. He is so quick off the snap, the way that he explodes off the side and just gets in the face of a left tackle or a right tackle. So yeah, there you go.

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I like the mic a little back and forth. It's very subtle into the ears of a listener to I'm waiting for it to just completely hit the ground. Not gonna happen now, now, Tanzy over here is a minute. I had nothing to do. What just happened. It's got we went. We went one show without having a reference to that scene, and we'll go right back to it. By the way, if you've joined us throughout any point of this year of Talking Cowboys, you have learned by

now that Isaiah just thinks in movie clothes. That's it. They're just phrasing quote. It's a big filing cabinet in his head and he just pulls out a movie quote and that's his sentence and he throws out there that and then there's like a small one for football upright, Man, it works. It's wild all talking about cowboys. Trend setting. By the way, what are you talking about about the benches? Would you call me? You're talking about Washington and Philadelphia

both bringing their benches. Dallas didn't bring their own bench, right that they did not. They did not. They rented one, and and the company that they rented it from said, well, shoot, we have an opportunity, let's do it up. They wanted to. Yeah, they want to press ja. So yeah, yeah, all the bells and whistles and now everybody's talking about everybody wants their own and now Washington has their own. Yeah, b wildb your own bench. It is. That's that's pretty funny

and pretty soon and Chris, I agree with you. It is a trend setting because now Washington's done and now Philly done. There were other teams out of It's gonna be across the league in like one year. Washington bringing their own benches here yes, yep, guaranteed. But it's gonna be eight knows me eighty one degrees. But oh, that didn't make any sense. Why don't you bring your own bitches? Well, hell, they might have the game out open the door, might

open it all up. Yeah, whynot. It's gonna be eighty five on Christmas? Here. Wow, I'm thinking about one of my cousins house for a pool party for Christmas, for Chris, for Christians. We talked about it on the way here. We're gonna have a fool party on Christmas. We invite, are you Chris? Chris is gonna go to the lake, gonna go open up the smoker. You have to do that, right, Like, if you have an opportunity, you have to have a pool party on Christmas. How many times do you have

a opportunity to do that? California? I mean that's about it. Maybe Florida, Arizona, Arizona. Yeah, Chris has a pool. No one's ever seen it ever, have to invite? Did you hear the hurt there? He of course he hasn't had an invite here the way he said that, Ah, it's a nice pool too. It's been nice. So you've seen what I saw it whenever he was building it. So did you? Heck, yeah, you said you built the pool at your house. You didn't buy the house with the pool? Wow? Yeah,

I saw. I saw the concrete being laid down. I was there for the foundation. Heckum, And I still also have beamer. Do you have a pool at your house? I do not. Do you have a pull at your house? I mean neither. The Beamer's only one. Huh. Kyle has one at his house. I'm at at apartment. He shares it with thousand people. There's usually kids at that apartment at that pool. So Kyle with a Brazilian shorts, he has a pair? Why not? All right, what's going to

change for this Washington offense? Rob going, We'll start with Isaiah then nothing nothing changes. They just it's just a it's just all around bad situation for them. Yeah, the quarterback was out, he didn't have any apps last week. You know, obviously he'll get back on the roll. Hope you hopefully he gets back in practice and he gets off of the COVID list. Then they have the offensive line, they have the issues there. Um, they're coming off a

game literally last night. So these guys are gonna have what seventy two plus just hours to get back healthy. Somehow Someway and in our defense is playing the best ball of their careers. It's just a bad scenario for them. Defensively. They just got walked through like hot dog water UM last night, which hopefully we can continue to build upon

our running game UM. That should give our office in line the confidence that they need to go out there and just thrash these guys, regardless of the big names that they have on that defensive front. It's a huge opportunity for us momentum wise, and there their entire organization is going an entirely wrong way. So I say it just previewed the entire game, So we're done today here.

He left no meat, so kind of going along with what you said though again and going back to the Week fourteen matchup, they found a rhythm offensively late in that game, and Kyle Allen was the one that brought them that rhythm and that momentum. Do they go back to that now that Garrett Gilbert started last night, both of those guys Heineke and Allen were unavailable against the Eagles. Do they go back to Kyle Allen? And then maybe he's the one that leads to the charge against Dallas

this week. I think they go to Heineke if he's healthy. He got him a four game win streak, got him back to five hundred. He's their starter, so I would think they go back to him. And they do have weapons on the outside of mean mclauren sims they can, you know, but but hey, Digs did a nice job on mclauren. And if you can't run the ball, I mean, the best run they had that I saw in the

game last night was a reverse to Carter. So if they can't get anything going up front, that's gonna be a It's gonna be a long day for them now. And I believe they go back to Heineke, at least I hope they do. But I think, you know, for Heineck, he's you know, we had him seeing ghosts and he didn't know what to do. But I still respect Terry McLaurin. We've seen what he can do, and just Trayvon Digg did such a wonderful job against him, and not only him,

just following all of the number one receivers. We talked about his interceptions, but just his ability to shut guys down and limit their catches. He did a verse Terry McLaren obviously gave up the touchdown two weeks ago. But at the same time, I think for the Washington football team is going to be there. They're gonna try and rely on their running games. That's what gets everything to

tick for them. And when you see last night, when the running game fails them, pretty much everything else fails them. And just going back to what going with what you said, Isaiah, I think the turnaround is going to be too quick for them, and they're a team that's looking for the ground. You know, they're looking for somewhere to lay down. They're going in the wrong direction. They recognize that they don't have the dogs even to compete, and you saw it

last night, Yeah, allowing zero receptions and three targets. Trayvon Diggs did against McLaurin in week fourteen, and then last week he actually turned around and had a better week against New York Giants. I mean they didn't really throw the ball around a lot either, but they allowed a twenty seven passer rating whenever he was targeted last week as well, So a couple back to back games where he's been exceptionally strong, and it's defense is scorching hot

right now. I mean with the turnover differential, everything that they're doing right now, you can rely on them. It's like we talked about earlier in the week, man, who are you more excited to see? Is it the offense of the defense? And right now you feel like every time these guys get on the field, you go, we're watching something special happen. We are watching something special. That's

the thing is every single time. And you wrote a column on it right the three and out, Yeah, and you talked about thirty one reasons why you're watching something special and it's a great article, by the way, go read it on Dallas Cowboys dot com. You're welcome. But that's the thing is, every time that defense takes the field,

you're gonna see something exciting. Even if it's a drive and it doesn't work out in a turnover, takeaway, whatever or punt, you still feel like something's going to happen. I mean takeaways, do you guys project the sweeten three? H two? Two? Yeah, I'm gonna go with two. I mean that's been a lot, it's been a lot. If we do four again, I'm just you know I said that you're gonna go right back to it. Yeah, I told you guys from the beginning, they're gonna have four again.

But are you that guy that believes I mean, I know you're offensive minded, So if we need anything offensive minded, we're gonna come to that side of the table. But do you believe defenses win championships? Absolutely? Absolutely, And the way that this defense is playing, they will put this organization in a position to win championships if they continue playing at this level, especially against Washington this coming week, they're dan Quinn will not allow them to have a

running game. I think dan Quinn is competitive enough to say to heck with this, And how dare the Giants coming here thinking they're gonna run the ball against us? We're gonna share this up right right now, um, and then they're gonna Washington's gonna be in a position where they have to drop back and throw the ball. Defensive line is gonna add pressure, heineke. I don't care who's

that quarterback. They're gonna be tossing it up like two pockets. Intersection. Hello, can we can we go back to what you said at the start of that about where this defense can take you because I just want to end on that. Yeah, they would put them in a position to win a champion. Say it louder, please, they would put them in a position to win a championship. You didn't say it louder, You said it faster. They will put them in a position to win a champion. That's what I like to hear.

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