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This he is talking Cowboys streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys at Play No. Your hosts Mickey's Fagnola, Brian broad Us, Taylor Stern, and Rob Phillips. Hello everyone, and welcome into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. I'm Taylor, joined by Brian Rob Mickey. We are here on a Thursday at the Star in Frisco. Of course, cowboys getting into their second practice as they get ready to face the Atlanta Falcons. And how's everyone doing? Mix

wearing Atlanta Falcons colors over here? It's my gothic outfit. Gothic. Either that or he's acting like he's Italian good Fellas. Yeah, I'd about to say, what time? You're not happy? Shaving the shaven the garlic with the rat blade? Mick over there? Not happy with the world today? All right? Happy part of the mob squad? Are you mad because Cheeto did go from DMP to full? I'm mad? Not so fast? Not so fast, a friend. I've said this on Twitter. I do, I do expect myself to lose even though

he's full. You think thirty plays combine special teams in defense? How about just being how about you want to just bet on active or not active. Oh that's fair. I think that's the Jason Garrett. That's why I asked you. No, that's that's why I asked that is. I'm not even worried about the thirty play. I asked that question to walk off. I did. I asked him about, you know, how do you balance how do you balance getting a player that you know that you want, you know, to

develop and stuff like he is. It's not about development anymore. It's a good questions about winning football games. That's what we talked about is. Yeah, you have a lot invested in him. Yeah, they're also five and three and guys are playing well in the secondary. Fight again, injuries provide opportunity. Thank you, coach, Jason, thank you. I'll be happy to buy a pizza if I have to. That's not a problem. I'd be happy to eat good stuff, right, it's good stuff.

Make sure you get deep dish too. Yeah, Taylor and I are there, pan whatever we will five ingredients you want to five? Yeah, or that thing. Make sure you get the special. I hope you guys like Hallopenia. I'm good with what as what els Man. I can pick him off and Chovi's good. Free Papa John's is free, Papa John. That's nothing wrong with that. Now do we have to eat it on the year here? Sure you do it on the little football you will a little

round table. Lesh Taylor steals donuts during the draft. I did, They're good, those donuts hers the box of donuts were there. She's like, oh yeah, I'm the captain now, all right? Well, Cheeto did go from DMP to fool and other injuries

to be looking at. Of course, coach Garrett said this morning he does not believe Tyren Smith will work out or we'll practice again today, which is of note now because of course he doesn't normally practice on Wednesdays, but now not practicing on Thursday with that growing, Are you more concerned or what is your feeling on this? Equally concerned, equally concerned about of course you're equally concerned, Mickey, right, equally concerned. YEA, not gonna be concerned one way or

another again. I mean, I think I was concerned yesterday and I'm concerned today. Oh I thought you were staying you're going to try and ride the fence again on my injuries remains. He's a guy though, we mentioned this like he doesn't have to practice to play, and they may very well be trying to manage him to Sunday. But yeah, I mean two days in a row, that's never a great sign, right, No, Chaz Green, get ready? What do you think? Can I ask you a question?

Can I I'll try and get to your answer. Who of losing Zeke, Daz or Smith? Who could you not afford to lose? Ryan? Did you not vote today? Was that the poll questions today? Segment? I forgot to look? Day has my back on this, you know, Rob, I'm sorry, I was. I wish I've been helping with the questions though you have. Okay, okay, just save that. I'm sorry, okay too. In the third segment, your question was who do you have to have the most in this game?

Of those three guys? No, that's what But that was a pole question. No, but you asked me something before that rudely interrupted you. How do you feel about I mean, are you worried or you think they're just trying to manage him? Mickey's right, Mickey's right, I'm worried. Yes, I'm worried. Groin problem. I can't say this like wrap it up and say, okay, it'll be better or put a brace on it. You know they can wrap it. But you're right about but you're right about getting better. Oh it's

it's a true, it's true fact. Yeah, now you're looking at me like you but it's true. It's a true. Is the two? Is the two late to vote? How the poles still open? Still, we'll do it at break. Maybe you can vote for me. I will have to find it for you. Now, tying, what's the fourth one? Do you? Guys? Are you more concerned because you don't have a Ron Leary there you have a Jonathan Cooper there as your left guard? Or is that not a concern? Oh, just you've got a Pro Bowl tackle that you're going

to have to play without. Yeah, it doesn't matter who's you know, taking his place. She's talking about the next guy taking the wet siding about the fact that you know last season you did see him miss a few games, but it was okay because you felt good about Chad's green stepping in. And I say good, not great, because there's still exactly what you said, Mickey, he's a Pro Bowl left tackle. You never want them missing those games.

But if they have to you felt okay, and I felt more okay with that because of Ron Learry being right there and what a season he was having. Now it's like, okay, there's been so much instability in this kind of group to start the season. Finally getting there. Yeah, Jonathan Cooper finding his role at left guard. Right, Yeah, you're just now starting to find a rhythm. Yeah, just

a run to the right they usually do. You know, it's funny last year with Doug Free and yeah, they were better running in the right, which everybody wanted Doug Free Atti, But can I can I gauge everybody's concerned, Tay, Yes, about Jonathan Cooper. I mean concern of I know, Mickey we started off and Rob Tay, we started off initially like, man, okay, gotta get better there, gotta get but you have gotten better there. Yes, So what Tay's asking is a very

legitimate question. Do you feel good enough about Chaz Green's stepping in there and not having to affect how Jonathan Cooper plays? Because we were worried about Jonathan Cooper affecting the way that Travis Frederick and Tyron Smith play. Now you worried, You're worried or you've got more confidence in him, especially these last two games. What gave you that confidence? Just the way he's played and the way the offensive

lines played and how they've run the football. Yeah, this is another one of those good matchups though, protected and protected the quarterback. It's gonna say that that, Grady Jared. Yeah, Vick Beasley, you're in a road environment. I mean, I would like to ride with my all pro left tackle here. Interesting. How many Cowboy fans there by the way. Yeah, the land is very much like a Dallas. It's a transmittant. They could show up. I mean, this could be a

fifty fifty game for those guys. It could well their guys hurt too. Which guy we're going to get into their guys, Grady Jared went through our guy you just mentioned, Yeah, how are you well he's got ribs, Yeah, but he'll play. He's limited. Get ready. Well, I'm just saying, oh, I've got some injuries also. Yeah, and let's get into us after we kind of go through ours. Now, Briant, Rob, what are you thinking on Desmond? I think it sounds like he could do something today, and I think that's

a good sign for him. I mean, he might wind up being kind of a gamer. Yeah, he could be a game time call quote unquote, but I think having him out there doing something Thursday is a good sign for him. Well, and that's exactly what Mickey said yesterday. He said he was going to wait until two pm on Sunday afternoon to make that final decision. You're still there. I think he's moving in the right direction. Interesting that Jason said it's more than knee, which is a a

that scares me, bone bruise type thing. I mean that scares me. Why the knee always scares me? Well, it's not a structural. I've seen guys. I've seen guys play with ankles and stuff like that. I mean, look at the rubber band many way he played with it. Yeah, are we are we dismissing those early reports that he had a high ankle spring through the rubber band man? No, oh, if they're more concerned about the knee. Yeah, but Garrett say, because if it was the high ankle spring, he would

be Yeah, you might as well. Just yeah that that you say the word high ankle and I and I immediately just cringe. You're talking. I start sweating. Yeah, in that situation, Yeah, I worry about the knee. If that's the case, he did say knee, didn't he He He did say knee. I remember writing knee. Did you write it down and take one page to write knee? I did so I could read it. You don't want to be too fun. You don't want to be searching for stuff. No,

but no, I am concerned, Tay. And if Rob's pole question answers that addresses that, I mean it's gonna be a very good discussion right there. Ye, because I'd like to believe that. You know Dez Bryant, you know, he's it's like preparing for Zeke. You know, Defensive corners don't like dealing with a guy that's big and can run with the ball in his hands, especially when you get down on the red. Yeah, they don't want to deal with that guy on third and four and they throw

a slant and throw them in. You're starting to see Dez Bryant. They're moving him around. We're not hearing like, oh, in, a hand's gotta get him the ball. When a hand's got a why don't they move him? Now? He's moving around. Now, he's doing things. He's bunch formation, he's tight wing motions, things like that. That's you know, hey, give him credit. That's what they gotta do. And it's getting him too. Football is are the the yards per catch and huge No,

but last week that's what you're getting from him. If you're gonna run the football and you can get seventeen eighteen yard pass plays that way in the middle of the field, sign me up. Plus they're winning. Yeah, winning, Winning is a habit. No no complaints when you win. Yeah. Now, Noah Brown showed up on the practice report. Of course, the rookie wide receiver his thigh, but he was full, so probably just something to take note of. Well that was from last week. Yeah, I think I think Noah Brown.

Don't worry about him, but it's gonna probably be active this week. Well, we'll see because again, how you know, how are you going to play all this stuff? Mickey was talking about your chela. That's I'm saying, do you get cheeto in the mix? Now? Does it like, does he practice well enough? He looks like is he practicing where he looks fresh and he's running and you know there's some banged up football players playing right now, he's not one of them. Now, the questions about him is

about the hamstring and will blow out. But if he practices, well, I mean that's what That's exactly what Gary was talking about. I need you to practice today, I need you practice tomorrow. I need you to practice Friday. I need you to practice where you can show up and let me put you on the field, and I need you to play and show up on next Wednesday. Yeah, exactly, that's exactly right. And I think I still think that's the fear. Yeah. Well,

let's get to the Atlanta Falcons. Mickey, you were right yesterday. Their kicker was injured last week and they resigned a guy named Mike Meyer to help with their kicking for this week. Meyer Saturday Night Live. Yeah, Mike Myers, Canadian. They resigned their kicker to help because his right calf. So he saw it right, Yeah, kent with the drop? Is that Halloween? I think he's probably thirteenth going forward

with Halloween. So I went back and looked, and I think he heard it on the first kick and he was able to kick the extra points right, but they had to forego a field goal attempt. I think they went forward on fourth now they did on the other side of them. Yeah, they lost closely. Yeah, they did eats Carolina. So now all these kickers, Washington was without their kicker when the Cowboys played him, have Bailey. Now

they still don't have Bailey, and they could be without him. Yeah. So, but they didn't do anything like put him on IR or anything. Right, No, no, no, no, they just they just brought in a safety net. Yeah. Yeah, now you're right. You brought up Grady Jarrett. He's a guy to watch for the Falcons. He was limited, and then DeVante Freeman, the of course running back that ran all over the Cowboys here at AT AT and T Stadium two seasons ago.

He was on there with a knee and limited. Julio Jones, You guys may have heard of him, he's one of the most elite wide receivers in the NFL. DMP with an ankle Tack McKinley if you guys watched the draft show, you know him very well. Shoulder limited, Duke Griley. They're linebacker,

knee DNP and then of course cornerback. Though you should definitely know if you've been thinking about this game this weekend, Desmond Truffont the cornerback with an ankle and he was limited, So you're right, Mickey, they definitely do have some some key injuries there, and I think you brought up, of course Grady Jarrett, but someone like Julio Jones is one

that sticks out to me. Five of those starters either limited or DNP and that Wednesday though, Mickey, Yeah, but come on, I don't I understand, but talk to me day Bill. Julio Jones is gonna play. Yeah, talk to me about. I'm glad he's got an ankle that'll slow him down. Wow, Sting's got a Sutting's got a slow sound. I like Mickey because he's like a mob jacket guys. He's got a mob attitude today. I like it, you know. But that's good though. You got me to go there.

You guys get out about kind of like talking about when oh you need this team to win and kind of get banged up and all that. I'm glad to see you guys are coming to the dark side on this whole thing about it. As I said, this time of year, you gotta win games. However, you can win games brand many times. We're looking at teams right now that the Cowboys lost to Yeah that if they played them again, it would oh sure, story due to injuries, mainly Voodoo Brian. The Redskins Eagles game. I wanted to

win and I wanted to get hurt. I want to bang that used to that used the word hurt, beat beat up, eat up beat Yeah, well nothing wrong with that. I like you make it like your attitude hurts nut Yeah, yeah, it hurts a bad beat up, talk about it. They still haven't slowed down either, one of those two guys from last time. No, like no, that's still gaining yards. A Freeman the knee though, Hey a knee with a running back. I worry about him though, very combination. You

know why I got Tevin Coleman. They do have Coleman. It's a different style running back though. But I'll tell you this though, Steve star kissing the offensive corners been taking a lot of grief for the way they've moved to football. I I and that the fact that they went away from the run. I would not be one bit surprised if they try and load up and run

Freeman until it's tongue. Yeah, test Dallas. They can be stopping the run if you, if you, If they could play good defense like Mickey's had him the last couple of weeks playing that run defense all good, but if you if you don't, if you don't, I mean, I say, Sarkisin has taken a lot of heat for the way that the offense has performed. The numbers on the Cowboys run defense are amazing. Like when they've the five games they've won, they've given up like sixty rushing yards. Yeah,

per game. The three losses, it's like one sixty. Yeah, it's been really bad when it's been bad. Yeah, And that's a lot of it's had to do with whether Sean Lee's been in the lineup. But two, you need that offense to kind of be at full strength to be nice. If the courts decide Zeke can play and you know, you get Dez and Smith and all that, that would surely help. As has McKinley been hurt for them.

I wonder I just thought about that. I wonder if he's been on their injury report every week with that shoulder thing that I've watched him played the last two weeks because Dolphins they've got him listed as third team. Well, he actually rotates. Is he like taco? He's a taco. I mean, he's got seven tackles. He's a Taco. No, didn't he get picked like one pick ahead of doubt one, but he had he had a shoulder thing that kept him. I wonder that's why he ropped exactly. Was he there

for the start of training camp. I wouldn't be shocked if he's been on the injury report all season long. It's probably something that they've had to manage and they need to kind of take care of, and they just haven't had the time to do it. Wasn't that something that probably needed surgery and he didn't have it. It was there was a lot of questions about that. Yes, he had surgery right after the combine. I think he sure did. Actually went through the combine then he had it. Yes, Yeah,

he went through the combine and then got surgery. And then there's some clean up that probably needs to be done some more there. He's an interesting guy. He has a different cat lost one of his dreads on the field and somebody put it on like Amazon or something. Sell it. Yeah, they try to sell Tack McKinley's dreads. I get five dollars maybe maybe something, but if you give it a quarter, he's just kind of what are you gonna do with it? Hang? It up. I need hair,

put it on. Put it on one of them them skull things where McKinley's dreads. Just write down my right eye, scotch. Why not? Yeah? Why not? All right? Fine? Terrifying. Hey and but hey, we're talking about Matt Bryant there, kicker now. Coach Grett had a little bit of an update with Dan Bailey. Of course, yesterday we kind of said, okay, he's out there participating a little bit, what is this about?

And he explained more of that today. Rob. Yeah, I mean, he says he's getting healthier, but it sounds like it's still a week to week proposition for him. I don't think he's on the verge of going through a full practice kicking and see Mike kind of thing. Still the month, month to month. Micky's gonna sing I'll be home for Christmas song here in a minute. I think it's Christmas time, Mick. Oh, he'll get back in time for my birthday. Yeah, guys,

that's the holiday that we're looking for. When's your eleven? Yeah, I'm the twelfth. Yeah. Oh, how about that Christmas miracle? To Christmas miracles, two of them that I get to be blessed with everything problem, probably within ten years of each other. Yeah, we weren't put on the curb at the same time. Well, let's take our first break. When we come back, we will have some Ezekiel Elliott updates because you guys are excited to hear more about that.

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Like I love this outfit on you. I just think it fits. It gives you an edge. It's awesome. Just watch think of it as my mood today. So no one messed with what Just come on, man, Higer, Yeah you're Moniger. You look a little your woods on. You shouldn't. You shouldn't go to the health club and work out and then find out there's no hot water in the showers. Mickey, you have to tell me before you want a Mickey's Man. Yeah, that might come up at the end of it. Always

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than Ezekiel Elliott does every day. Zequiel Elliott in New York City, Empire State. Yeah, he will be at present at his hearing today, final hearing. Guy, I don't even know anymore. But get one of those embunk things against. I think that's that would be the last hurrah. Last we actually the last hurrah would be the Supreme Court. Supreme Court would be the last hurrah. But the Supreme Court gets to pick and choose what they want to hear, right,

So yeah, there's something I've never seen before. And the embuk thing is rare as well. So Elliott verse NFL. Gosh, that would be interesting as we sit here looking at our country. You know, wait a minute, football, you know what those funny about? Not funny haha, but interesting. That is a labor law case, yea, is it? Really is. Well, it could set a precedent, no doubt. I mean, I'm

laughing about it, but it really is. It's a labor law case that they said that actually law students will study one day this case, Oh my gosh, because you'll learn about every court there is in the entire country. Well, guys, yep, second circuit, but fit circuit might go first, and you never know what other circuit, all the circuits. No, it's

not about the circuits, there's not. It's a about somebody finally saying that when you, even if you agree to collective bargaining or gre that who's ever in charge of an arbitration can overstep their authority. Right, you have to be fair. Right. This is not Russia, you know, Brian, I had geography class. What was the last ruling where it came down to like nine o'clock. We're just hanging out upstairs. Yeah, we were going to do that tonight. We were going to all the courts, learned all the

circuit We learned all the circuits. We were learning where they were, you know, and they and and they had one in the district court and then they said you filed too soon. Yeah, I mean and again it's a it's about which court you end up in, right right, yep, yep, unfilled advantage. Let's hope the honorable Livingston, Jacobs and Droni are all having good days today. Maybe they'll get some sun in their eyes or they're not wearing them all about fits today they were like happy again. She's a

Princeton grad. Let's hope that she's a tiger. She's just tiger through and through her. Tom Pella Sero just tweets from NFL Network his attorneys have arrived at the Second Circuit a little over an hour until kickoff. Big day to day, but it feels like a Super Bowl of Law hour in five minutes. Yeah, but we got Peaks listening to Jersey walks her to LaMelo, right to LaMelo to Amelo for the players and write last name to

be arguing in this case. Yeah yeah, see if you can pull it out, so one pm it gets going. We're anticipating, obviously, as Mick said earlier this week, he thinks there will be a decision before the week's end. And you know, obviously they have as much time as they want, but they will they will make that takes a while to write that stuff twenty four pages unless they just rule on the bench and say, you know what, he's good to go. He's free, freezy, freezy. Would you

like to be there watching this today? I would love? Oh yeah, you wanted to have enough notebook in the world to take as many notes? And I sit right behind the attorney and tap him on the shoulder and say, hey, go say this. Let me if you wouldn't do that, you have some respect for the court. I know we have no I know where his attorney. I know I was supposed to talk about football, But would you would you have liked to have covered the Simpson case ninety four for a year? Not for a year? No? No?

And I thought I was covering the Michael Irvin case until they they ended it dramatically the next day after his Eternity's called a Dallas policeman to this stand and I don't think the judge wanted to see that happen. And that's when they came up with the negotiation and he took Mickey's talking real soft and took the he took the ten year adjudicated ten year adjudicated probation. Yeah, there you go. And this is when, Yeah, there was some shady stuff going on in this when I really

shouldn't be talking. And pizza fun is up soon, right, Guys, in your next life, can we fly there? Huh? You know that? You bring people do that in retirement. They just go hang out at the courthouse and watch trials. You gotta do that. My grandfather just held newborn babies, really know how they have those nick you babies that need to be oh held every so many hours? Yeah that sweet. Yeah, that's a good idea podental soul, not

like the court guy. But yeah, there are different things you can see making the court oh babies like you'll be the next seat. I would drive uber uber Uber uber before I do that. Okay, Well, if someone vomited in your uber, you would be done with that. He would beat somebody's ass back suits coming on at that point, Yeah, absolutely, throws in his car. Mickey would pull over and lose it. Trust me, get out. There's got to be some sor compensation, right,

we'll go to court. So Zeke, is this another hell Mary or more of a Jason and reliable? You know? Like boy, every time I want to believe it's a hail Merrit's it gets completed. You know Daniel Wallack said, he did you not tweet that he feels like this is gonna be something favoring him. I just think, I mean, if they get reasonable judges, that's all just reasonable, reasonable or define these days, Drony Livingston Jacobs Jacobs, I mean, if if they just look at the facts and not

just say, okay, this is the legal precedent. I ask you a question, Mickey. If we didn't work for the Cowboys, I would say the same thing. Okay, I just want to make sure we're fair be fair about it. Because you asked me about, um, should the suspension last through the playoffs or should it not last through the playoffs? And I said, yeah, anybody gets suspended, Yeah, y off games count. But I've always said, appreciate you being fair?

Is why can't there be some middle ground? Okay, yes, precedent labor law, But can't you look at it individually and say, all right, but was it arbitrated fairly? Well, it can't be just one or the other. You can look at it in its own prism and say this particular case doesn't seem right. If you're gonna play lawyer. The arbitration hearing was like a kangaroo court. Exactly. If you're gonna play judge and jury, be judge and jury.

Be fair. Yeah, be fair that don't don't be don't be Oh we can't do this, we can't, Right, That's what I'm saying. If you're gonna step your toe in and put your toe in the pool of law, go be law. Don't don't be half law. You know. It's like they they they acted like they were they were investigating and prosecuting better than the authorities. Yeah, and then they just said, well but that stuff doesn't count. Yeah, we're not gonna worry about we made up our own yeah,

way of doing this. It's like they're trying to qualify. They were trying to qualify this little new committee they they put together to combat domestic violence. And I think think they thought if they just put domestic violence as the title, everybody was going to be in their favor because everybody's against domestic violence and we are, absolutely, but just you know, adjudicate it fairly. Yeah, exactly. That's all. So the plan is for him to be back tonight

and if he's still eligible at that point, he'll practice tomorrow. Yeah. If they don't, don't roll he could practice tomorrow because they'll be done by twelve thirty. Rights, you know, it could be they'll put the post the thing at nine o'clock in the morning soon as they go to work, or nine o'clock tonight and make everybody sit here and wait. Thank goodness for our group texts. We'll keep each other in line, because please, that's what we're doing. We talked

about the owner going after the commissioner. Mh, that's only going to get worse. Um. Yeah, that's an interesting one because I don't know where you draw the line on. I mean, he hadn't done it yet, yeah, but we kind of hinted that he's not going to stand there and it's there. Yeah, you know, and I saw where everybody's trying to say, well, he's doing this because of Zeke right, Well, he was against whatever they were wanting to pay Goodell on a new contract right for the

sentence came down, right. So I haven't seen anybody say this yet, but it's a two way street, right, Sure, what if Goodell was mad at Jones right and said, Okay, I'm gonna punish your guy. Yeah, you know that did that factor into six games when you would think with all the evidence we've seen that. All right, I'm not sure about this, but I'm gonna give you two games. Yeah, go go home and think about this, right, how you've been acting. But six that's like sentence you to especially

the book at you sixteen game schedule. Yeah. Yeah, that's like a ten year sentence. I just didn't know. I mean, I just think this is one of those things. I wouldn't want to fight Jerry Jones. I really wouldn't. I wouldn't want to fight him with what I've seen him fight, and I wouldn't want to fight him. I really wouldn't. Well, And I think he brought up a great point today or yesterday. He has good advisors. Yeah, he has strong advisor.

He usually listens to them and trust them. And about that sometimes Mickey and Bob suits not even to take it away to I just wanted no, no, no, I thing with a commission. It's funny. We're not talking about football stuff. We're talking about courtrooms. That's that's been this season though. It's just stranger for that. I swear it's been like fifty fifty for us. Stranger things, yeah, strange things, stranger things. Yeah. So Zigiel Elliott stay tuned to hear

on that decision. Shall we pretend that he will be there or won't be? As I get into my next questions for you guys, I'll let you choose, Oh, he's there, Okay, let go for you mean there to play or there at the at the No, I mean he is available on Sunday. I want to pretend that or do you

want to just go as normal? You know what? Before you do that, I was going to point out that, you know, the fact that he's in New York will allow these other guys to practice, So they'll get he got a full day in yesterday, they'll get a full day into good point, very good point, Mickey. And then if, however, it goes and they know by tomorrow, then so there's at least whoever's gonna play, he's gonna practice two day. There's been a little contingency plan put in place. Yeah.

Who's in a bigger disadvantage, Dallas or Atlanta with the situation. Probably Atlanta. Yeah, because the Cowboys have been preparing for this, right, Yeah, I got two days of work last week last and Atlanta done. No, I mean I don't know how much different they play it but I would imagine some if you got the NFL's leading rusher. Yeah, and then you got two guys that don't have more than combine eighteen carries. Right, Well, let's get into it. Let's look at Keyan O'Neill. Obviously,

the Atlanta Falcons guy to go to Sea. He would be helping with the run game. Let's just say him verse the run game. How do you guys feel about that kind of matchup? Yeah, I've watched it myself and I like it because, I mean, if you're an Atlanta Falcon fan, that's your guy, you know. I mean the Falcons have had some struggles on first and second down in the running game. Now. The thing with Neil is that he's the one guy that can be physical at

the point of attack if things break down. He's the one guy that can cause turnovers if you need that way, because I saw him rip the ball right out of Jonathan Stewart's hands last week in the Carolina game. So he is a physical hitter. So if it comes down to a lot of collisions, whoever it's Zeke Morris Smith, whoever it is playing at that spot, there's gonna be a lot of collisions. With number twenty two because that's

the style in which he plays. Now. As a team, they haven't done very well defending their own first down, and teams have done a really good job of converting on second down against him running the football. So you know, keep an eye on how that all plays out. But put Neil is a is a legitimate safety for this Falcon team. I thought you brought up a really good point. Game by the way they are, Atlanta is eighteenth against the run, one hundred and fourteen yards a game, midpack.

It's to me, it's more about what the Cowboys do and if you don't have Tyran, how does that affect the operation? Because god, we've seen it. It's been so good for really three weeks now, and really a little more than that. That fourth quarter of the Green Bay game six weeks scot twenty eight or more, six weeks in a row. Okay, I don't think they really seem to find traction though until the fourth quarter of that Green Bay game, it was a better running guest it was.

Zeke had ninety yards in that quarter and they kind of took off from there, and I think some of it had better since yes, yeah, and some of it. Brian has been hammering this. It's the fronts they played in the first month. But I just wonder, you know, if you don't have Tyrant, how does does the operation just keep flowing? Yeah? That's my question. What happened Garlands?

To who you're playing? What happened last year? Have we looked and say that the two games that boy Chaz Green San Francisco was one of the San Francisco and Tampa. I want to say, well, I just feel like that's different entirely because you had Ron Learry instead of Jonathan Cooper. True, Ron was played great last year. Chad did a nice job at left tackle. I felt like in the two games tired miss. But I don't like Jonathan Cooper, do

you know? I just I don't trust Jonathan Cooper as much in the run game as much as I had seen from Ron Leary. But when did you start trusting Ron Larry? Because the beginning of the year Ron Larry was just moving in for ELC Collins. But he'd been a starter for this offense for three or four years right before that, So I don't think it was that run. Was it a couple of years? A couple of years, Yeah,

year or two two years. He there wasn't an adjustment period with him going in there, I know, but he was a familiar as he got beat out by somebody else, Collins, he got he kind of got wally pipped. Yeah, well I think Collins and yeah, Collins got hurt and that was it. I mean, I I don't know. I mean, I I like what tays saying though about about Cooper. I want to believe that things are getting better with him. I do. I mean, I think visually you can see

some positive things. I do worry about Chaz Green in this game because the one strength that the Falcons do have is the edge rushers. You know, we worry about We worried about Collins going up against guys. I mean, he's going to have his hands full with Vic Beasley over there. You know, let's see what happens over on the other side. But every time you want to throw dirt on Chaz Green, and I'm talking about myself, he

comes out and it plays a pretty good game. He's a gamer, yeah that he's not the liability that you might thought he would be. I just worry about penalties

in the game. You know, if it turns into Okay, you get the false starts and stuff, but heck, we've seen some problems with Tyron Smith himself, you know, Yeah, and that's a I don't know if I don't know if you can necessarily say and correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know if if Tyron Smith has been the best offensive lineman they have of the five, who would

you say Martin? I think Martin has been. Yeah, Martin and Frederick for sure, you know, I mean the way the way Martin's played, I mean, I think he's been. And that's not a slam at Tyren Smith, but I mean, I just feel like if you said, who's the one that appears that's had the most, you'd probably with taking out of the left guard and the right tackle. We've seen the all pros. We've seen them penalized, I think

a little bit more than yeah. And normally if that that has usually an indication that whatever's physically bothering you, right, you know, you're probably not moving as well as you normally do. Yeah, he got beat on an inside move the other day, but that's that's if when you're gonna beat Tyren Smith, you gotta beat him going inside. That's always kind of been his his his achilles healed there.

But I I, you know, I feel like though that you know, we'll see how this line plays, and it's it's not one of the it's not one of the best defensive lines they play, but they still have some talented guys over there. And you are on the road. You know, you gotta keep And that's why I think. And you're indoors and when this will be there first time to kind of experience what kind of noise there

is in right stadium. Yeah. The thing that you have to worry about though, is in and Rob said this early Ken you consistently run the football with no Zeke and no left tackle. Now, that's that's where this is going to mean. You could probably get away with it if you have Zeke and having Chaz Greenplane as your left tackle. I think you can. I think that's the bigger concern. Yeah, I don't think it's Chads green that's

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pay for it? Mickey? Papa John's Absolutely everything's better free Yah, the best things in life? Al Right, a robs Twitter poll. It's time for the poll today. Which offensive starter? And we mentioned this earlier do the Cowboys need on the field most versus Atlanta? So you could take this and say, all right, just in general, who means the most of the offense? I was thinking more the matchup too, Who is more valuable against Atlanta this week? Does Tirner? Zeke?

Who you got well on spags? I'll take my two cents. Go ahead, give me the runner, ze Gunner. The runner is the runner is your engine. And they're talking about the offensive line being the engine. But the runner really is the engine for this. His ability to to get tough yards, to keep him play out action, to allow you to convert third downs, shorts, things like that, and down in the red zone. What he brings. Give me the runner, And I'm I'm I think you have to

have the left tackle. Don't get me wrong, I think the left tackle was a vital player, but I think the I think the runner could make up for a backup left tackle in this game. Okay, Freeze, Oh, Freezy, He's the Zeke Millie all right? And I'm not trying to be opposite Manka, but just a different kind of thinking perspective. That's goods. Why I am trying to judge who's taken over for each guy? Yeah? Who takes over

for Dez? You have confidence in Chaz Green before it? Right? Oh, you got two runners that have run in the National Football League. They're not Zeke by any means, but they've done this. Who's taken who's the lead receiver? Who do you fear as a receiver if Dez isn't there? This is where this is where I'm gonna go with you here. I can't go with you, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try and not shoot your thing down. But tell you, they won the Washington game not even throwing

the football. They want it just running the football, and that's that's my That would be my only argument. I understand where you're going. He was on the field, right, he was on the field. But but my argument to you would be, I looked this up. In all of Dak Prescott's victories. How many completions do you think he's he averages in those victories? How many? How many? Give me a number. It would be in the teens. Okay, eighteen nineteen. Every victory Dak Prescott has had, he's averaged.

They they've wanted his average nineteen. Ok. But it's not about the production. It's about who you fear. And I think teams would have no qualms about not just ganging up on the run. If Dez isn't there, I would fear because there's no threat on the back end consistently. I'm gonna throw the ball at does Brian eleven times. He's gonna catch seven of them. That's fine, but they gotta worry about him. Yeah, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I know I can hand that ball to the other

guy thirty times. Yeah, but at least at least what does they're they're they're less likely to crowd the line of scrimmage on Zeke. That's true. Without Daz there, they'll just say, hey, but you know what, guys aren't running, they'll take away Beasley. I think I think that's what teams will do. But I don't think they worry about him getting beat. Beasley ain't gonna beat you for a sixty yards, No, but but hey browed him in the

middle of the but they crowd him. So you don't when you lose that ability to run the football, that that that's part of not fear in the back end, you crowd up front, play the type stuff. Yeah, I'm just gonna it's he made a good point. I'm I'm just gonna take the opposite of that because I feel like though when they win, and again I look this up, nineteen completions a game. When it's when it's when it's winning with him. A lot of Chaz greenlove here too.

I mean, just thinking he could step in if need be at left tackle. Everybody's rolling with Zeke two fifty six percent say he's most valuable in this matchup. Tyrn Smith gets thirty eight percent of the vote. So I was I'm with Zeke too. I mean, I think you talked about this earlier. If you get in a situation where this is a tight game, third and one, third and two, yeah, and trying to move the chains on the road against this type of offense that you're facing

that you don't know could explode it. Yeah, I would sure like to have my bell cow running back to set the pace hog the ball. He makes a good point, though, really does how about first and ten? I'm handing the ball to Zeke. I know they don't stop the run very well in first Now I'm okay, But I'm saying with the other guys, yeah, that's I fear. I fear what happens to this running game. And I love Alfred Morris, I love Smith, I love those guys. I mean, Alfred

Morris is one of the nicest men ever walked. I mean my point was, yeah, those guys have gained yards on first and ten. Yeah, Alfred Worris had one carry for eleven yards the other day. Maybe that's what he is. Maybe he's maybe he's like Okay, we'll just hand me the ball. We'll see what we can do. I just if I if I was a defensive Cordnat Okay, let's all be defensive. But let's put it this way. What if you threw the ball twenty times and rant at forty?

Do you think you can win? Yes? I do, I do. Close? Did you because you did it? You did it with you did it at Washington. It's the offense works the most. But when when Da da stoning thirty times, you weren't there. It was raining still nineteen nineteen completion, Yeah, and that's all you needed nineteen. Hey, I like differ, but do you not think do you not think defenses back off

when Dez is out there? Like he gets doubled. I think defensive coordinators are more worried about Ezekiel Elliott running the ball down their throat. All right, well you better have the corner to That's fine. They openly admit we're a run first. I'm with you like he was with you. He was just giving it. I'm just saying without without Dez on the field, does that change how defenses play you on the running game? He is their vertical game breaking guy. The next guy to probably do that that

you look to is Bryce Butler. Okay, I got I got another little consistently well, I'm just saying vertically yeah, and I'm saying consistently sorry, no, no, no, You're good. Got a little fun bet for us possibly, all right, I'm already gonna give you guys a pizza. Okay, so you got the pizza right. We'll have to decide after Fred sticks who is more likely to play on Sunday, Zeke, Gilli or de Bran as we sit here today, Thursday twelve, nineteen pm Central time. Wow, I have no clue. See

so okay, so who wants this? Saydes? Who wants to say? Zeke? I'll say, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm this is honestly, I'll play this game. I'll play this game. I'll play this game. Okay. I think that I want to trust the legal system. What legal people have said. Okay, well, I think Des Brian will line up and played before Zeke. I think the only thing does if he decides, hey I can I can get this out? That's kind of somewhat. I think he wants j Jones. It's somewhat in his

hands because this is totally out of Zeke's hands. I'll go with does. Yeah, and des Bryant did not play against Julio Jones the last time, did he? When you had Brandon wheedon that game with Joseph Randall was I'm trying to remember. I don't think he did. I don't think he did. Smith was out Plateau in the opener and then yeah, the Giants game. I was like week three Atlanta. So yeah, okay, so you're saying does, you're

saying does. And I want to trust. I want to trust what all these legal people, but I feel like kind of like the legal people have let me down a little bit. Well, this thing is seesawed, right. We've gotten some for Zeke's some against Zeke. So yeah, it's a toss up, man, who do you think, Mick? It depends on which where the lawyers who are analyzing this stand right. Are the liberal or are they conservative? We told you Smith or Bryant uh more likely to play? Yes,

that does? Okay, it does too. We'll see Queen sweep. It made me neither. I know that's something should be or both. But you're just looking, You're looking, You're trying to project a little bit. We're just looking it's interesting day. And let's go to the phone lines though, because we have another Ray. It's been a few few rays. Ray from Dallas. What is your question, Collo? Hey, hey, Ray,

this is Ray from New Orleans. This is not right from dab Okay, go ahead, but you got I just I haven't called the show back to back into I just felt I got a little miss understand yesterday. But I'm no fine, go ahead, but you got would you? Guys? You guys need to know what you mean to the callers and to the listeners that call the show. I mean, you really do a phenomenal job already. Know that brought us.

I'm the guy that came up to you a training camp and shipped your hand and say, no, I appreciate you, but don't back down. Job, Yeah, don't back down. We talked about the quarterback for sure. Did you worried about that? I am? So you know, just just just know that going forward that I'll clarify my comments or statements a little bit more than that quick. If I stopped listening to Brian Brothers, I'll stopped listening to talking cowboys, and

that's that's never gone. I appreciate that. No, but yeah, I'm just saying, if you got a point, man, go stick with it. I mean, you don't, don't be mean about it. Boldens done in my DNA, So sure, how much I didn't really mean what I was saying. I mean, okay, of course we got the shows. Worrious, Okay, you got it. You're worried about the courts right now. I think I

don't know who's gonna play like right now. Before I got on the phone, I was worried about what you guys were talking about as far as you think it's gonna mist the games. I mean, I worried about Tonlne with the growing injury. But I think that we have We're gonna see what happens. Every Cowboys fan that's it's gonna be worried throughout the week. We don't know what's gonna happen. We don't know if I think the defense can step up. But also I can see them menting

on some blaze. We don't So I don't know what happened, but the game. I just wanted to call and clarify that I appreciate it, all right, thank you, all right, good job? All right? Well, I get it. Hey, the guy on TV, here's he's in Manhattan, right, you'll men, go put a little pin on where Zeke is right now, if I can pinpointing up on the for all radio listeners. Yeah, yeah, well we got ken oct cameras turned towards the TV. Now just now the option to listen to watch. That's true,

you do have the option. It's way up there on the seat top left. Zike Milly, Zeke Milly. Alright, Hey, we appreciate the callers, always do Yeah, I mean and again I always I appreciate the passion. Don't fold though you're gonna argue, argue, but do it respectively. Had a breakout game against the twenty and fifteen Dallas Cowboys here at AT and T Stadium. Looked like an absolute beast. He was. He's a pro bowler. Now, Devonte Freeman verse

Shaan Lee in this game be a fun matchup. No, you wrote about it, Brian, Yeah, I face each other the first time. Yes, but it was a different story. DeVante Freeman was not the same running back he was back then. Rookie. I believe what he right and was coming back from that second yeah, second season. I'll tell you what It's a matchup I really like, and I

like it from two aspects. I think that I do believe this with my heart did Steve Sarkissing has taken a lot of heat in Atlanta for not getting his weapons going. Everybody's wondering why are the Falcons not having success in red zone? Why is Matt Ryan doing this? Why can't they successfully run the football consistently? I mean he's taken a lot of that, and I think coaches, when they take heat, they go back to try and go back to the basics. And I think this is

where that matchup with Sean Lee. Mickey's been right with Sean and what he's meant to this football team. You know, the run fits have been really really good, especially last week. It gets a quality back and you're gonna have to do the same thing. But it's going to be about Sean Lee getting the football, you know, him anti hitch and I I mean you could, you could, you could point to a lot of guys having to play well.

I mean Jason Garrett was talking about really it's unconventional to play Tyron Crawford at right defensive end, but it's worked for this football team. So yeah, you could say Sean Lee and I'm totally with you, and I even wrote about that. But man, he's going to have to have a game where they can't let Freeman control this game, and they and they've got to discourage they've got to discourage Sarkissian from wanting to call his number a bunch.

Interesting stat with their running game against Carolina last week. This is from I think the Falcons Network radio network. They had nine runs of two yards or less on second, third, fourth down. They got one yard total right of those runs. They've really struggled in short yard to trying to run the football, keep drives going. So something to keep an eye, which is surprising to me because they really do have a nice one two punch with Coleman and Freeman there. Oh,

how's their offensive line? It's they're only missing one guy from the super Bowl and that would be the guard. Which guard was that? It was Sweitzer? Sweitzer as that you say, I'm messing, sweetzer, But yeah, they're only missing one guard, one offensive lineman from their super Bowl team. Yeah. So yeah, it's they've struggled, and I just I just like I said, I worry about them saying, Okay, we're gonna be committed to try and you know, we could

be committed to trying to stop the run. Teams get committed to try and stop Zeke, they'd always have success. But you can be committed to it. And I'm interested to see if the Falcons in fact say, Okay, we're gonna hand the ball, we're gonna toss the ball, We're gonna do things we have to do to try and get these two backs going downhill against this Dallas defense. And if the Dallas defense is good enough, we'll see.

But I always just think about the offense. The offense is one of the best friends that the Cowboys defense has. Their ability to score a lot of points, the ability to hold the football, ability to convert third downs, all those things are huge when they play. Absolutely, Mick, what you loo can up over there? I'm just seeing. I mean, I don't know. Buffalo and Miami's God's gift to defense. They beat him, helped them to seventeen points. Both games

played in Atlanta. By the Well, this is where Mickey goes down to the schedule says, what's so great about them? Well, they're four that I did. Nobody said they're unbeatable, No, I'm just saying they're four and four. Somebody stops somebody. No, that's what I'm saying. But you you don't want to get in a situation where all of a sudden they figure it out. Are the Falcons better than that record? I think they are. They're way more dangerous than that.

I think they're more dangerous. They're enough, they're better, Well, they're they're they're similar. As far as personnel with Kansas City, who would you take? You got the reigning MVP at quarterback, Julio Jones is just he's a but but Julio is there's nobody like him in the NFL with his height, his his size. Salad Bill, Yeah, Bill would get down the field. I mean, I don't care what the numbers say. They've got to be able to stop him. And that

running game probably said that last week about Tyreek Hill. No, we did, absolutely, we did, and they did and they did a great job. And I think the offense had a lot to do with that too. But the defense was hey again, run fits and coverage that that interception was a great read by Jeff Heath and Orlando Scandrick jumping underneath. That's what you gotta have. I like hearing that though, go out and play defense. Yeah, that's true. I just worry about this team if it turns into

we're losing. If Mickey was talking about if you don't have Smith, if you don't have Bryant and you don't have Zeke, does this turn into a seventeen point team? Let me ask you this brand, if the Falcons do feel like, Okay, we are more dangerous than this, we are a better team than let's get back to a winning record. Here, what part of the Cowboys whatever do you think they'll try to expose of the running game. Yeah, they'll run, they'll run. They'll see if Dallas they've got it,

if they really believe that. Dallas's offense, like Mickey always likes to talk about, is a thirty point offense, and it can do so well in the red zone. Inside the thirty they're great, you know, I mean they score touchdowns to get down their sixty five percent of the time, sixty eight percent of the time they're gonna score touchdowns down there. Yeah, it's hard to defend. You're you're saying, Okay, what's our best defense. Our best defense is our offense scored.

That's the problem with Atlanti's defense. Right now, their team's averaging seventeen points a game. Last year they were averaging in the you know, like thirty points a game. Yeah, one of the best offenses in the league. A little reason why they got to the Super Bowl. But it's a little hand in hand. They're not they're not giving

any extra possessions to their not at all. No. No, I think if they were up for more than six takeaways, this offense might be averaging a touchdown for a game and be more closer to thirty points a game than twenty. Where they us they're turning it over. Yeah. Yeah, Mattie Ice has seven picks. He had seven picks all last year. Mattie Ice. Yes. Well, by the time we talk to you guys again, to them, yeah, we will know who will be playing, whether will be hope think, oh, we know.

Maybe that's another bet. Maybe that's another one. I'll bet you training table pizza on that one. Bad get it for you. Yeah, that'd be good. All right, Join us back here tomorrow, same place, same time, same people. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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