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We have lots to talk about today, lots to talk about really intense patted practice yesterday. But let's get into the news and notes end everything that Patrick want.

Well, first, let's go ahead and get the uh the non football stuff out of the way. Business. Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb have both well. We received an update from Stephen Jones on both Ceede Lamb and Dak Prescott's contract. Let me put it that way, So as we knew going into the back end of the weekend, uh, the Cowboys submitted an offer recently to both Dak Prescott and CD Lamb as recently it's Friday, great news show some

He's back.

He was officially removed from the team's pup physically unable to perform list. As far as expectations go, I'm told don't expect him on the field as far as team drills with seven on sevens just yet.

They're continuing him in his ramp up period.

From that rehab from the torn acl But he is available to practice as soon as they deem him willing, not willing, but worthy to do so.

Worthy being the operative word.

And I know Mike macarthy was talking about kind of easing him into practice. We saw him out there, he was on the field, he was doing his preparations getting already. I can't wait to see him in paths on the field and everything. But how soon should we expect to see that.

I honestly wouldn't put a date on it.

I would say it could be as early as next week when they start putting him into because keep in mind, he has to go through up to individual drills first, so like yesterday he was doing work with trainer Britt Brown, getting himself back together as far as conditioning goes. He'll go from there and then he has to go to individual drills. From individual drills, then you work him into seven on seven drills, and then you work him into

But I would I'm hesitant to put a date on it.

I said, let that play itself out, because what you don't want to do is rush that guy back, and they have no intentions of doing that.

I have seen through experience. I've seen it, I've been a part of it.

I know that he's physically, bodily wise ready to go.

If Britt Brown releases you, you are physically ready to go. The question I've always had for trainers and everybody concerned the player mostly is where you at mentally when you when you make that first awkward move, how will you respond after that?

So I'm always waiting on I like the slow approach.

If he get back by the six or seventh game of the year, where a snap count, it would not bother me. With a with a snap count meaning ten plays here of fifteen twenty a ramp up, it would not bother me. And am I am serious? I wanted it for Still, I wanted it for Michael Gallup.

It's just the way I'm built, you know.

And I know sometimes you say, well, we need this guy, we need he's better than the backup.

No he's not, because he's mentally not ready.

And you don't want that game where somebody go off on you and say Oh, I'm really not ready. You don't want that still went through, This guy'd be one of the most him and Dad got a rank one in two in mental toughness.

Still was still with through last year.

Yeah, exactly.

He wasn't mentally ready. Physically he was. I mean, you see no injuries, but mentally he was not ready. But those first seven eight games and uh, and I just want this kid to be mentally ready. I know he's physically ready, but I want him to be mentally ready. So if you don't get back into the fifth of sixth game, I'm good with it. I may not be good with Missus Jones brown out the fans, but I'm just saying, from a player's perspective.

No, one hundred percent. And it hasn't even been a full year since that injury. Like, it's not like we're talking about exactly, it's not like we're talking about last training camp where this happened. It's it hasn't been a full year yet, and I'm more than comfortable seeing them sort of ease him into practice, as Michael McCarthy talked about. All right, boy, so our next point, the pads are on. Yes,

Well, the number one reason they say safety the number of wear and tell on the body. That's number two. But for me, what past does give you a more real life timing? The quicker you can ramp yourself up to use of getting hit and being physical and going through the actual plays.

It helps the timing.

The quarterback get to see when you're out there as a wide receiver, when you're in no pass, nobody's really putting hands on you. But now these cornerbacks are putting hands on these receivers. So now they have to learn to adjust their routes, the hand movement, the hand combat that has to go. It's a lot of things that go into when you put the pads on. Like me personally, when I played, I was the worst guy with no pass Because guys, young guys.

Be running by.

Everybody running by, they'll be laughing, you know, But the past go It's like now I'm laughing, I'm sitting over there laughing and eating a doughnut, drinking coffee like you ain't the guy you thought you was so uh, And we see it every year.

Man, this guy looked great.

Like we was talking yesterday for the past, for no paths to be on these guys great.

Well, a few guys disappeared yesterday.

You know who didn't disappear.

Yes today Tyler got no no, but we'll touch It comes to the paths more or less. You're talking about CBA, the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Uh.

You know, it's been negotiated time and again and most recently, I believe this newest one is from twenty twenty, and it just basically dictates how many hours per week uh can be put into you know, not only on field work, but especially contact like full contact like playing in pads.

And there's so many intricacy, there's so.

Many intricacies to it. So at the end of the day, it's just it's a bold new world. It's not the same world that we enjoyed as football fans when Big Nate was playing, and you know, the Dynasty days of the Cowboys where Jimmy had him out there too days and things like that.

It's just not that anymore.

So, you know, I know that kind of lends to some people viewing that as a part of the injury conversation.

As far as you.

Know, is that one of the reasons why we're seeing so many injuries in the NFL nowadays. I could see the argument for that. But at the same time, these guys nowadays, they never really stopped training in the offseason anyway, So that's how you kind of balance that. But if you're wondering why so few numbers of padded practices in training camp, it's because of the CBA.

Fair enough, fair enough, And do we wish that number were higher? I mean, just personally, do we wish that number were high?

As a fan, yeah, I want to see more, pop I don't care because all thirty two teams are doing it.

When I played, it was every day, two days.

An easy day was full pass in the morning, shoulder pads and helmet. In the evening, forty nine ers went shoulder pads, run period and one on one period and then they was off and they did longer practice. They did two hours to two hours and thirty minutes. We did shorter practices. Hours lasted an hour and forty five minutes because we hit. So it doesn't vary from team to team. Everybody's under the same. Veterans get ten hours a day, Rookies get up to twelve hours a day.

That's it.

So what separates the great teams from the.

It still comes down to who's got that dog in them, who's got the better athletes, that got the biggest dogs.

You know what I'm saying.

It still comes down to the athletic guy above the shoulders, not below the shoulders, but above the shoulders. Who has a little chip on the shoulders. That's that's that's what that's what drives the same still.

But it's also like like Nate said, and as far as like the timing goes, you know, when you're talking about as Mike McCarthy puts it, they're running around in their underwear. That's completely different from when the pads are on its full contact as full speed. Now you get to really see who you're lining up against. Now they get to see who they're lining up against. And and yesterday they were off to the races and we saw

Most everyone has a plan until they get hunched in the mouth.

Yeah, word, tyson, word tyson.

We had some explosive moments in practice yesterday. I kind of want to touch on some of these.

I was there.

I was on this side of the field. That happened on the other side headed my direction, where Jane Thomas had an insane interception jumping Douce Vaughan's route picking off a Cooper Rush interception.

Just an amazing play.

Uh Patrick has an amazing video of that play that is on at Voice of the Star on Twitter. And also we have a new document or not documentary article feature on Dallas Cowboys dot com called Camp Captures where we where we highlight a lot of those plays that are report our team reporters are filming on the sidelines.

Great video.

By the way, I think you need to be a cinematographer. I think you were a cinematographer in another life, in a previous life.

I take the wish that money had rolled over what.

Were some other great individual plays yesterday with the pads.

On Well, another interception right for Mike zimmers defense, and it seems like it doesn't matter which quarterback is back there. They're finding ways. Zimmer secondary, they're finding ways to get their hands on the ball. Shouts out to one Yea Thomas the way he read that route, because I was standing on the same side of the field as you, the way he read closed, reacted and was able to pull that ball in. That was Yeah, that was fantastic.

So Tyler Goyton was phenomenal.

Jalen Brooks again we talked about we talked about one Ye Thomas with that play.

But also insane play.

I mean, just yeah, Mazzie Smith is he's looking He's looking good.

Mazzie Smith is looking good. Did he have a perfect day yesterday? No he didn't.

But as I posted some clips, his get off is in fact it's fast. It was one of the fastest ones yesterday that I monitored. His size is there, his mindset, is there. He looks like he's playing looser. It looks like he's playing more comfortable in you two man.

And this is not to be totally entirely optimistic, like we're not. We don't have the blinders on, like this is just what we're saying.

Was it a perfect day? No?

But it was a damn good day from No. And we even have to talk about these quarterbacks. I mean that there are a lot of I in ts flying around and I know I was talking to Nate about this earlier too. I mean, how do we feel about the quarterback situation at the moment.

One thing has been very consistent about this camp, and uh, it's been our dbs and our linebackers getting picks. That has been very consistent. It has been very inc assistance. Is our quarterbacks and wide receivers are not making this connection. I know we don't. We're missing CD Lamb, but we still have the Brooks brothers, you know, the jaalenks Wet.

We still you know, we still have uh uh what's that? What's that? Got number three? Good?

While Rennick we still have him. Uh, we still have Ferguson at tight end. So it still should be a connection.

Here, but our dbs.

And linebackers are taking over the whole camp. That has been the one of things that's making system with or without pads. Has these guys been breaking on the ball. Just a great job to coach Harrison what he's doing with all those guys in the backfield. But I liked it yesterday was simply linebackers coming downhill, meeting the guards, meeting full backs when they when one was in there coming up filling lanes. That was something unique and different.

So that was something good to see. Uh Uh.

I'm excited about about BB. But Happman does have as slight Yeah, he has a slight lead over him.

Uh Uh.

They still it's rotating, uh idoga and guiding.

Uh.

People's looking at guiding and he's doing nice things. But I see as a as a fellow lineman, I see the things that he truly needed to work on that can make him get him in trouble, you know, because Uh, just little things that he needs to work on. So to me, he had a nice day and he's building. Uh what I need a little bit more from Mysia's Uh he has to Some people cannot have an off play. If Mazie has ten snaps, he has to have nine and.

A half of them, right.

Uh, Because what I'm saying is, yeah, he still hasn't broken that habit yet of his lacks of dazeriness if that's a word, He's say every nine and then he'll get a little lack of daser.

You can, you can, you can, you can, you can.

Catch him off guard, and you can you can hook him one way or the other, and uh, never straight ahead. He's always good with the straight ahead stuff. But you can hook him and you don't you don't want that. Not a single block. Now if you hooking him with a double block, I don't care that leads my linebackers running, but with a single block. So I'm looking at him, Okay, five great plays them two.

That he didn't do what he needed to do.

So I'm looking for more consistency for him, and I'm looking for a little bit more consistency from guiding it.

I'll beg with his technique. That's what he'll he'll he'll want to lean on you.

I don't think he don't believe that he's strongest what he's so he'll kind of want to lean on you.

So that's what I noticed about that right there.

But like I said, the linebackers coming downhill, mazi uh out of you know, just moving.

Like you said, he got clips of it.

Where he's moving when he's thinking about it. You know, every every every snap, somebody should be tapping. They stay quick, big fellas, stay quick because if he develops.

Into what we think he can be, we got something. We'll have something special.

With Kendricks behind him at that middle linebacker, we will have something special. A veteran with a young guy working like that. So I was excited about yesterday because one thing this team continues to do day in and day out, and they've been here for about a week now, is they're still moving quick. They're moving quick that they're giving coach what they need to have, and that's quickness.

And we didn't have a lot of off sides.

All all size was on the defense, all all sizes on defense.

We didn't have a lot of that on the office.

So trying to let me know jump on Tomen so that let me knows that guys that guys know what they're doing.

Absolutely all right, Well, we have something special coming up for you. Next, we have a lot more with Tyler Kuiten. We have a lot more brock Hoffman Cooper BB talk more talking cowboys.

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But anyways, Tyler Guidon was cracking helmets out there quite literally.

He broke his helmet.

He didice yesterday. That's what I mean the pads are on. He broke his helmet. He missed a few snaps because he was getting a brand new helmet. Shouts to our equipment staff for providing that for him being on the ready, but he did miss a few snaps when he got back in though he was up against Michael Parsons. Now, I want to ask you, he's looking like a first

What are we thinking as we have this conversation with julat thirty first, No, m as he is trendy in the first week of practice. How darre right, as he is trending, there is a very strong possibility that he will be ready for Miles Garrett in the Cleveland Browns because it's the best way to get ready for a Miles Garrett or TJ. Watt is to go against Michael Parsons,

Now you just gotta go out there and do it.

Just it's all about when when I'm when I'm working with young guys, and I think when the offensive line coaches.

That I've had in my past, man, and.

Uh, you what you do is you you you overemphasize that technique. Uh, and then you let the dog come out where it barks at and uh that that's right. That's what they're trying to get them. Stay technique sound because as a left tackle, you're gonna face them bealler renals man, them raging bulls.

That got baller renal feet out there on them edge.

So you have to always be technique sound because at the end of the day, that's what's gonna save a left tackle. Now, right tackle, they can get handsy, they can get physical and mean, but at the end of the day, eighty percent of the guys you face are gonna be those quick, fast twitch, muscle type guys and they're gonna be able to spend with with with great

Is based off explosion.

Once they hit that fourth or fifth step, they turned into the quarterback and that's where he has to be good as a battleerina to be able to go back and forth and keep his knees bent, you know, and not lean into it because a lot of times when you're having a good practice, so you feel you're having a good practice, you forget about that technique Like I'm a dog this guy, you know what I'm saying, And all of a sudden, that's when.

Miles Garrett, Michael Parsons.

Or the kid from Pittsburgh, that's when they'll leave you standing there exactly.

So sorry.

So the technique has to be a very very uh uh with a with a left tackle that had a left tackle and a center those two positions has to be technique mentally tough. Like I saw him yesterday. He made up, he made he didn't make a good play. It was a soso play, you know, And I wanted to walk up to him and say, you're big. You're a big corner back, baby, you're cornerback. And people say, what do you mean by that? Cornerback can get beat

What about Tyler Gordon, Like, what technique are you most impressed with so far of his play.

He got nice feet.

He got he got nice feet, So that that's been the redirect and everything. When when the other day when your boys spent on him and Parson spent on him, and he went back there and there with the greatest v that I would have threw a lot of dudes off.

I would have threw a lot of dudes But he can't stressed.

Yeah, he he's doing what he needs to do to maintain and and and like my man Patrick said, just continue to build on what you did yesterday. I'm that I'm that guy that some people are gonna get better. Ass training camp go on, and some people gonna level off, and then some people are gonna fall off the wagon. And what you want is that guy to continue to get better, continue to get better, and to the point where he's a perfect machine.

In that way when he.

Faced the miles garrets of the world and other guys when attention, when attension, it's really ratched up.

Yeah, now you're ready.

I think people need to keep in mind and some may may know and have forgotten, some may not know at all. There is one key reason why Tyler Gotton's feet are exceptional. And that's because he's a former basketball player, right. He wasn't converted to football until high school. And he said it when we spoke with him after the draft pick was made. He said that in high school his

I love that. I love to hear that.

Another battle that I wanted to touch on was brock Hoffman versus Mazzie Smith. Now we talked about this, we talked on this earlier. Brock Hoffman is not just letting Cooper BB take that center spot.

He does not alternate at this point. No odoga guiding alternates depending on what the coach you want to see with what group and what This kid right now.

Is winning the battle. It is early.

They've been out here a little bit over a week and Hoffman ain't giving it up, and he didn't give it up yesterday in past rush. So they telling Cooper, if you want it, come get it, come and get it.

Broncks is really like, you gotta come take this, you gotta come take this now. Do I believe that Cooper BB has the ability to do so?

Yeah, dude, Yeah, dude. I ain't asked you about no ability. I'm asking you, will he take it? We ain't actually about no ability? I'm actually will he take it?

Then I'm gonna hit you with a date line. I need to see first. You need to see first, and then we'll go from there.

There we go. I love it. I love it.

Now this battle? What's more important here?

Do we want to see more from brock Hoffman or do we see more from Ozzie Smith? Or is it kind of battle man?

I want to see the battle.

I want to see Brock put so much pressure on Mazi to get Mazi where he needs to be. See one thing about I think all of us who are sitting up here, uh, we're not quick to say this guy bus this guy because some guys take a minute, and we were fortunate last year to have a few guys that could play that position. But he they're asking a lot of him to this year, so he has no room now to kind of think about it. It's yours go get it, demand that you keep it.

And we need for Brock, we need for b B.

Cooper, we need for the guards to have constant pressure on him so he can understand that there's no off days for me, there's no off days for Mazzie Smith.

I do want to see more.

I would like to see more of a first team rotation between Brock and Cooper so we can see what Cooper has. But that being said, it's also true that one area that Cooper BB is needing to work on, Brock Hoffman already has more or less downpat which is like shotgun snaps and things like that. That's why Cooper

Yeah.

Right, And if you're talking about, like Nate saying, if you're talking about wanting the best possible person to also push Mozzie Smith right now. On July thirty first, that's going to be brock Hoffman because Brock is not thinking about the snap. It's muscle memory for him. He's just perfecting this technique there, but he's snapping his hands up,

That was just my transition to the break. Thank you for smooth.

Now that I'm acknowledging it, it sounds even better, right, all right? We got to go to our last break. More talking cowboys after this, more to talk about.

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Let's give him the pearly Whites thing. What were laughing at, Nate?

I didn't give. I forgot because I was somebody distracted.

He zoned out. Come on, Nate Squirrel.

Yeah, well, I'm putting the pressure on you now, much like the pressure drill yesterday.

That's transition, definitely.

Yeah.

I'll keep doing that all right. The pressure drill yesterday, it was entertaining. I love that. That was my favorite part of practice yesterday. You had offensive defense, first team, second team going at it. One thing I noticed yesterday in the practice drill was a number eleven linebacker.

Michael Parsoners. Michael Parsons.

That guy was dropping into coverage as a linebacker during the pressure drill yesterday. Boys novel idea for Mike Zimmer throwing Michael Parsons into the linebacker spot. How do we feel about his reps at linebacker?

Me personally, I love it. I was one of the last holdouts when he was transitioning earlier in his career, which he is still early, he's in fourth year.

I wanted him to spend his first few.

Years at linebacker, keeping those instincts in tack so he could be a multiple threat all over the field. And I just feel I just feel like he if he let this and allow this to happen with enthusiasm and attacking what Zimmer's acting him doing, I think he'll he could be that next level player. I'm talking about my next type of next level player, not the basic fan.

Next level player.

W stands for weapon, and that's what I've always wanted Michael Parsons to be for the Cowboys. I did not want them to relegate him to either off ball linebacker or defensive end. My thing is keep him moving around. Make it a game of where's waldough for opposing offenses.

I like it.

If only for the fact that it keeps the offense guessing, and if for that reason alone, keep it coming, mix it up.

No.

I think back to his rookie year when he was talking about being the queen on the chess board. You know, it's like, you don't know where he's going to go. You don't he can make any move basically on the chessboard, And I think that's relevant for what we're seeing now. Granted he was not Denni. He's an elite pass rusher, there's no doubt about it. But seeing him in Mores on the field is going to result. Like you said, he's going to be a weapon on the field. They don't know where he's going.

Right, And he's dropped a little bit of weight so that he can be able to do things like that. So when he does drop back and coverage, he's not doing it just for the sake of going through the motions of the play, but he's doing it because he wants to be effective back there and be able to actually cover and maybe make a play. So he's playing at a little bit of a lighter weight this year.

This is what made me laugh? And I've told you this several times sitting at the dinner table.

If you tell me we've had Michael.

Parson's gonna be sitting at one defense at the right defensive end eighty percent of the game, any coordinator worth his saw say you just lost.

Yep, you may get your sack or two, but you.

Just help over there. We know where he's at.

But if you put him at linebacker down line on which he's done done at all in this short training camp. Now I'll give you a quick scenario. Line him up at linebacker, Devis Evan linebacker. Now you bring up, you bring Jordan Lewis outside. All of a sudden, I'm screaming as a tackle. Trio, trio, trio. I'm bringing everybody this way. And you got Tank over there by himself, easy money.

You get what I'm saying.

You got to take over there by hisself, and and your boy drop out. He drop out, say Parksy drop out. Now you free everybody up to be one on one.

Come on, man, free money, come on lunch, free lunch.

Thank you.

Now, speaking of linebacker, there's another one on this team that's showing out big time in practice and.

That is Eric Kendry.

Now a year ago today, I was here at training camp up watching linebackers and I was like, it's really hard to judge linebacker play, isn't it. Like you're at training camp like there's that there's no full tackles, so you can't really judge. This year with some actual linebackers with Eric Kendricks safety drop down to line exactly. With Eric Kendricks out there, I'm like, oh, this is what a linebacking corps looks like. He is absolutely and Brian

It makes it makes the ring game on both sides better because if a guard a center don't come out and play him right with the right technique, he gonna get up on them and drive him back. Are he gonna give him a soft shoulder and fall off and make the play. So you're gonna have to square up on him. You got to learn how to drop your butt all over again and move him out of there.

Off when Eric Kendricks had his first team All Pro season, he did two things exceptionally well. He covered and he went downhill to stop the run. You know what, We're seeing him do exceptionally well this offseason, all the way up through yesterday's practice. Cover and run downhill to stop the run. So I could not be more pleased from what I'm seeing from Eric Kendricks. He is absolutely in top form. He looks extremely comfortable, which just that tracks because he's back with Zimmer.

There is not an install that he's having to learn.

He's plugging play in this particular playbook with this defensive coordinator. The only thing for Eric Kendricks is bringing along the other linebackers behind him, getting them up to be as quickly as possible. But as far as what Kendricks is doing, yeah, John wickstyle, I'm thinking he's back.

Absolutely, and it kind of puts things into perspective. Whenever he was going to sign with San Francisco ultimately choosing to sign with the Dallas Cowboys, it kind of puts it in perspective. With Mike Zimmer being here, I'm I'm I'm feeling this. I really am the linebacking corps overall. I mean, if you add in Marvin Overshown as well, and remember this, it's something to feel confident about it.

Remember this most definitely remember this. Please remember this.

Mazie is a part of the linebacking Corps. Mazzie Smith number fifty eight. I'm glad he got a linebacker number. He is a part of that, him and Big Roger because they if he suck up more than one block, these guys gonna come downhill with wide open lanes like a running back and they're gonna be filling holes.

And that is the key. Mazie. You are a linebacker, baby, get off the snap.

That smell like science. I like that.

Yeah, watch it, he got some good Yeah, that's that black rifle, Dode. You tell me.

He's ready to go like that.

Yeah.

The linebacker play is something to behold here here at training camp.

It's it's a really night and.

Day early training camp here.

I mean, and it's early, and it's early unheralded guys. I asked Mike McCarthy about this in his press conference yesterday. I said, this time last year, you know, you were dealing with the injury to the marve On Overshown. Ultimately before the season was over, you had the injury to Layton Vanderish, who was forced to medically retire. You were in such dire straits on the depth chart that you had to move one of your safeties down the linebacker.

Who made that? Rock Mogensen, Okay, undrafted guy.

So not only has the linebacker court gotten depth, but as it stands, those unheralded guys they're stepping up and making some plays too. So, like you said, Josh, the linebacker player right now is a sight to behold.

The first player to scrimp scrim but inside run fifty nine, Morgeson came down and telling you, I.

Say, roguson brock Leser, I don't know what it is.

Yeah, you're gonna gi him five.

He's out there giving five.

Yeah, the beast and Carnate. I'll just drop more. I do want to say I caught this.

Turfy.

No, we're making it happen, tweeted us. And I do want to say, you know, all of this said with an ounce of caution, because I don't want to say the linebacker early training campus just what we're seeing, because we're not saying, first everything is perfect, We're going to this game, that game, nothing like that. It's training camp, the season as it started. Yet We're just observing what we see out there, out from.

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Guys want to do one more question? Last question before we end the show. Who are some backup players fans should be keeping their closer eye on in the coming weeks.

Billy White Shoes Johnson, Billy, that's my man. I mean, I hope you don't let me down. Bro, I hope you don't fall off the off the rails.

Come on, come on, I'm gonna go with them.

Let's go on the defensive. So let's talk Chauncey Holston. I'm gonna say Chauncey Golston. I say that because he's going into a contract season, and even before Sam Williams went down to him, they're going to need him to step up and be big. Now they're really going to need it, especially in assistance to rookie second round pick Marshawn Neeland. Saw a couple reps yesterday. Well, Chauncey Gholston looked good. One of the pressure plays on the pressure reps.

So Chauncey, Chauncey Ghoston, I'm looking at him.

Number thirteen is Tyron Billy Johnson, it is, And Chauncey is what numbers.

Us, I don't have my roster in front of me.

Chaunce chn Goldstein is uh ninety nine.

So I want to make sure because I'm trying to learn relearn numbers and numbers.

And stuff has been changing.

Yeah, I want to make sure I'm correct. But I'm telling you, Uh, the D line is moving swift.

Yeah.

I mean, Sam love you, hope you get recover well, But his D line is moving.

Swift mine for at least for now. And I saw him yesterday. I had a lot of really great reps. And this is mainly because he was on my side and I kind of have to like head in pretty early for practice. But he was on my side and I saw him catching, catching a lot and some athletic catches at that. Deontay Burnett, he just came in number six on the wide receivers. He won't keep that number because that is Donovan wil Man.

You know what.

He always try to get the new guys man.

No, I'm just saying for what I see coming in from the UFL, seeing what he's able to do out here already.

Granted he's already conditioned. He was just playing.

Football a couple of weeks ago. I like what I see from Kelvin Harmon as well.

Sorry about the Cowboys and scouting.

I'm stinging with my thirteen.

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