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It's a say it with your Chest Friday. And we have lost a member of Talking Cowboys at least for the moment, because it's Kyle Yeoman, Zack Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, and the one play guy who's been a player before in the league and has won a Super Bowl. Our residence Super Bowl Champion Isaiah stand Back is en route at the moment to the Star because he thought we were virtual again today. That's not the case. Either that or he was just tired of the cold. I think
he's just trying to get out of the cold. It's nicer today. The sun's out is a little absolutely, it's a beautiful Friday, we'll see Isaiah probably in fifteen. Now do we levy a fine? Huh? Do we do that? This should be what kind of a fine kangaroo court? Yeah, like kangaroo court type stuff or what we're doing here. I I'm recommending that highly. I just how did Isaiah do that? Like I said, the guy has a ring
he doesn't wear on his hands. So like a great third segment to me, I agree, Gebel Chap, let us know in the chat what you think on what Isaiah should leap. Missing the first part of the show. I gotta get the chat pulled up on my phone. But glad you're with us here on Talking Cowboys continuing to preview the Week eight matchup between the Cowboys and the Eagles, and of course say it with your chest. Friday will give our predictions in that third segment as well as
hopefully Isaiah gets here before the second segment. We'll see if he's ready to go. But guys, whenever it comes to this Cowboys team, we saw the moves going into yesterday, started to see a little bit of the fallout of that yesterday as well. Whenever practice was on or whenever the players were back on the field for practice, and one thing that we kind of talked about is Andy
Dalton is back in meetings. Rob Does that mean anything in terms of his availability and whether or not they're gonna go with Bend Nucci or if Andy Dalton's gonna be ready to play come Sunday. Well, based on what Mike McCarthy said this morning on the fan, they haven't ruled him out of the game at this point. Now there's an injury report that comes out this afternoon. Cowboys have a different practice schedule than a lot of teams.
You know, they still do something on Saturday before the day before the game or the day before the day they fly out to go to Philly. So the way Mike said it, you know they're preparing for ben to Nucci to be the starting quarterback Sunday night. However, because of that Saturday schedule, it sounds like that decision will be made tomorrow. If maybe if Andy can pass protocol, get through it by then and maybe do something in practice Saturday, then I guess there's a chance. But you've
built your number one. We don't know if that's going to happen. That is a sign of progress that he was in all the meetings yesterday, going through those steps of the protocol. But at this point you have built a game plan around the young pup. So do they You know, if I had to guess, it would be de Nucci. But you never know if he can get through it. He's a vet. Can he play on a short week? Probably, but we'll see it. Sounds like a bunch of coach coaching gamesmanship, could be could be a
little just not you know, put revealing your hand. I'm just thinking about the shot. Watched it again last night, and that shot that Andy took. It would be hard to even fathom that he would play yeah, this Sunday. So if he is in meetings, I'm thinking that it's all about trying to give the rookie some of those mental reps and just tell him what to look for because of his experience. Because other than that, I mean, Benda Nucci is gonna be our guy Sunday night. I mean,
the bulk of their work is done. You know that they usually have that padded long longer practice on Thursday. He's missed most of the work this week. I just don't it doesn't seem realistic at this point. Now, even with that and can I say that real quick, Benda new Sorry, Benda. Nucci sounded like a guy that was expecting to go out there on Sunday when we spoke to him yesterday, and that's kind of where I was
going to lead into it. One. The fact that the PR Department made him available, I think speaks volumes of the fact that he's even on the podium talking. I think that makes maybe makes it a little bit more
clear as to who is expected to be the starter. Now, even if there is a clear protocol and Andy Dalton is cleared to play on Sunday, do you even feel comfortable throwing him back out there because of the hit, because of course the state of this offensive line going up against a really really stout defensive front, or is that not necessarily even in the picture at all. Wow, that's a good question. I think as a team, you
don't want to just for his health. You don't want to throw him back out there just after the shot that he took. It would be Yeah, I don't think that. I don't see that happening. But at the same time, you know, we just have to get ready and get our game plan going. Ben to Nucci's our guy, So even having the conversation about Andy Dalton possibly playing is
I just don't see it. Yeah, I mean if they would never put him out there, if he wasn't cleared and fully healthy, they would not risk his health like that. No way possible. But yeah, from a game planning perspective, it's even for a ten year vet, I think it would be tough to just say, hey, Philly, Sunday night, really no reps, just go out there, let's see what happens. I don't know he I mean, he wasn't even in the quarterback meetings until yesterday. He was only in the
team meeting on Wednesday. So it's looking more and more like then. Okay, so are we going with the neuch or Nuccie man? What are we doing? There's a couple couple of nicknames that are thrown out there this week, a couple of my favorite beat writers Calvin, uh huh, Clarence. They've been going with Gucci di Nucci. What do you think about the Nucci? It troubles my spirit? Just you don't like that one? If I like that one either,
No man, Gucci, the Nucci man, just survive Sunday night. Yeah, Yeah, Ben, let's figure it out. Ben. Yeah, No, I agree, and I mean I think it does hold a little bit of weight the fact that Andy Dalton wasn't the original starter. It's hard to forget that sometimes because he is a veteran and he has been a starting quarterback in the league.
But like you said, it's a much tougher task for him to step back in and say, Okay, Andy, here you go, even though he's had one start under his belt pretty much over the course of the last couple of weeks. I guess two starts now under his belt before his injury. Now, in terms of the rest of the team, you're still trying to get those wide receivers going, and then that's a huge piece to what the Cowboys are gonna have to do and to be successful come Sunday.
Michael Gallup yesterday did talk and he said that, hey, Ben da Ducci throwing the football around a little bit. Do you think the Cowboys might be more comfortable with Ben da Nucci as a wide receiver friendly target than maybe Andy Dalton just from what they've said, What do you think? Heck, he's throwing a lot of curveballs right now. You're talking to me, You yes, How am I throwing a curveball? Are the wide receivers a potential to get
back on here? Oh? Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, And I'm hearing that we have Champ on the line, So we got people snapping in front of us, and I want to make sure we get a word from Champ on that that was what the curveball was. The curveball was not me, It was Chris Beam throwing curveballs. I was like, that was not that big of a of a question. Say, how's your drive to work? My friend? Man? It is good? I understanding. Man is not to get a ticket right now?
You know what I'm saying. But I'm on d weight. You're you're in a tesla though, so I guess you can't go. That's like a priest, right, That's okay? Is it because we're discussing possible crew fines here? Yeah? For you for a little bit. Yeah, the speeding ticket be safe. There might be something when we get here. I don't know. We'll figure something out. I'm sure you'll figure something out. If you have any ideas, you can throw it in the periscope chat because I know you're probably watching and
listening at this moment, are you though? I am. I mean, I'm listening, I'm right now, but I can't see anything that's probably smart, that's probably smart, be safe in that regard. But uh so, are you gonna stay on the line with us and ask we have these conversations? Absolutely, let's go. Yes, I don't. I don't have Chris Beam in my ears like normal, and he's such a great producer that I don't. Yeah, we're doing and we're doing that sounds great, Okay, so
let's do this. Uh going back to the wide receiver question. Michael Gallup of course talking about Ben Denucci yesterday, and I say, as a former quarterback and a former wide receiver, is there times whenever you're just more comfortable with a specific quarterback and is it something that could potentially show up this Sunday whenever Denucci's out there rather than may be Andy Dalton, who has one of the higher drop
rates in the league. Yeah, I mean there's there's a different touch, right when it comes to quarterbacks, Right, there's a different touch. So you you heard, uh you're at Gallup yesterday. I allude to the fact that the ball gives up on you quick. Well, you know, people uhould say it's the same thing about Brett farm right, he had a high drop right for a while there. So quarterbacks who have a little bit of a little bit of saying a little spice on the ball, it does
take them getting used to. But I mean, at the end of the day, these guys, they're they're pros man. They'll adjust the catching the ball. And the only person that these guys have any symmetry with was was Daki Prescott or anything else aside from that, you know, there's going to be an adjustment period. You guys think the same thing. That adjustment period that has and been there
necessarily for any of these guys. Yeah, probably because they hadn't been getting a lot of reps with Denucci and so this week, uh, you know, it's been fast forward. Let's get acclimated with his his arm strength and just to hear them say that he's slinging it around. Speaks volumes about the pick his pick as well in the seventh because these are the this is the hand that
we've been dealt, right, and Denucci's a quarterback. I think we saw from the Washington game that he has some zip on the ball and hopefully that that zip on the ball. These guys are not dropping like they did in Washington, So I anticipate that touch everything that he brings to the table. These guys are gonna do everything that they possibly can to support this rookie quarterback. And he can run twenty two miles an hour. According Mike McCarthy,
got radar Gun. You know everybody we've talked to players. I asked Zach Martin about her on a call the other day. He's got swagger. He's showing it in the huddle. He's showing confidence. It is practice, but he's trying to show command of the offense, which is good. Tell you what he he was selling me a little bit on the call yesterday, just some of the just his confidence.
I think he's he doesn't sound like a guy that is unsure of himself in this in this moment, this opportunity that he may very well have on Sunday night. And I don't know if fans are fans are having flashbacks to a young FCS quarterback with some mocking Oh no, I don't want to go there. You already did have to at this point. I'm not going there. I'm just saying I think I think that I think it's probably
unfair to pretty unfair to draw that. Look when Tony Romo came on the scene, Tony Romo, yes, he was an FCS kid. He had three and a half years in the league before he came in and set the league on fire. So look, let's let's just if he can just mention what he said. I thought one of those interesting things he said, besides what Dak told him before practice, which you know, just be yourself, McCarthy, he said.
McCarthy told him, look, as long as we end every drive with we still have the ball, kick it, whether it's an extra point or a pun. Manage the game, don't turn it over. Play within yourself. That's what a backup quarterback has to do it. And to have a chance in this game, he's gonna need to make some plays. But it, like we said, this is Isaiah said this about Dalton when he came in tenure Vet. It can't be because of the backup quarterback whether you win or
lose a game. Now, how tough is it, Isaiah? And you were a mobile quarterback to so I feel like you could speak to this. But he mentioned whenever he said playing within himself, he said, sometimes playing within myself means moving my legs and getting into a rhythm by running the football. And of course we've seen what happens in the first two quarterbacks so far this year in
terms of running the football. Is it harder for a backup and a rookie to kind of gauge that game speed, gauge that that pace that you need to have as an NFL quarterback and being able to run past the line of scrimmage. I don't think the running part is the part that he's gonna have to adjust to. Honestly, when I was last playing quarterback at the Versy of Washington Man, I iced to tell my coach all the time, give me a run, give me a run, and get me a run early, because I want to get hit.
That's gonna get all my butterflies out. Right. Once I get hit, it's like, oh shoot, that's all it is, Okay, cool, Now I'm ready to roll. We gonna throw the thing around the field. But in terms of the passing and right and how fast those windows are gonna close, right, he's gonna have to sin he anticipate his receivers getting openers. He's gonna be holding the ball and waiting in terms of receivers get open right. Those are the things that
really differentiate the quarterback. And when you have a young guy coming in, a lot of times they tend to lack confidence because they don't have that timing. They don't have that We talked about that symmetry. We talked about that chemistry between quarterbacks and receivers. And when you haven't had those reps, now I want to I don't want to have a turnover right. Coaches in my coaches start, he told me, don't turn the ball over. So what I'm gonna do is I'm going to be sure that
my receivers are open before I throw the ball. And what does that cause you to do? I'm gonna hold the ball now, right, and they're holding the ball for the extra half a second usually to hit you sacked. But when we talk about this guy coming into the game last week, I was I think I mentioned when we were watching the game live last week all the studio, I was impressed. Or his first row was a honey honey hole shot and cover two. That's a tough throw man. I don't care if your if your Tom Brady, I
don't care if your Nuci. That's a tough row and it takes a lot of cojonas to try to drive the thing in there, especially when you're coming off the bench row from being cold. Mike McCarthy said, I think he said about that plays that was an interesting throw for your first your first throw in the league. I mean that's expect Yeah, you're expecting probably three handoffs, you know, for a rookie stepping in. But yeah, yeah, he's he's got poise. He doesn't seem to lack confidence. No, that's
and again, like Isaiah said, a tight window. But having the rookie trust his eyes is the thing. And most rookies they have to battle with that. Do you trust it? Do you when you recover two and it's actually three? And you know, Mike Swartz is going to be trying to play a lot of those mind games with this rookie quarterback. So him holding the ball is not what ideal.
And if a play breaks down, one word run. And I think even at this point, at this point, whenever you look at the state of the offensive line and you look at the players that are upfront, who's the most mobile mobile quarterback? The col always have Dak Prescott's up there. Sure, but I would honestly put de Nucci in that category, not in terms of a good quarterback, but de Nucci's just as mobile. Have you watched the James Madison. But there's like Isaiah playing the position. There's
different types of mobile. It's true. It's it's your ability to just move within the pocket, extend plays and be able to sense it around you. Yeah, I mean Dak is Dak is as good as anybody in the league. It's throwing on the run, very good. I mean, that's um, that's where he's some of his best plays of his career have been so far so. But yeah, just straight speed. It is probably Denucci. Maybe maybe I don't. I don't know. You gotta find the way to your point, Rob. There's
different versions of mobile, right. There's there's Dak, Prescott and Russell Wilson. Hey, I can get out and run if I need to write, um, And then there's like the Lamar Jack. You know what I'm saying, is that guy right? Like you know we're planning runs like these are these are playing runs. He's gonna have ten rushes per game and he's the seven of them are gonna be planned. Right.
So there's different different variations of running quarterbacks. I think you definitely want to get d Nucci out the pocket and get him moving and get him comfortable in his element so he can get his swag going, he can
feel good. But at the same time, like we talked about yesterday, you can't afford for another quarterback to go down, so you have to manage how much you ain't getting out of the the pocket because every time he does get out of there, guess what, there's not fix three enterpounters
protecting him. That's a good point. How much do you see designed runs playing a factor in this football game with Ben da Nucci at quarterback, because either whether it's the ru read option or whether it's just quarterback draw things like that. I mean, you've got to pass the set up the run at that point for a little bit with a rookie quarterback. But at the same time, where do you kind of see that play calling factor
go into it. That's such a tricky question. It is because one, you know what you have behind him, and I guess everyone is a little timid about that subject anyway, because that's how Dak was hurt. But you know, we can't play scared, and I think with Ben d Nucci's it's gonna be about finding out what he does best in this offensive system, what he did best at James Madison, and what throws are are he most comfortable with making
come into the line of scrimmage. So design runs whatever we can do, because we can't go into Philly scared about anything other than just look, we gotta go get this win, and however we get it, we gotta get it. Yeah, it is a balance because they've been Philly's been a little susceptible to it. You know, we saw the Daniel Jones run last week. Yeah, Lamar Jackson does that to everybody,
so yeah, and it's part of his arsenal right. But at the same time, like Heck said, Isaiah said it too, you have Garrett Gilbert behind him and that's it this week. You know, Cooper Rush is going through the COVID testing and should be here next week. But that's You're awfully thin at the quarterback position, so you've got to be very careful how you. I mean, We've fans wanted Dak to run and run and scramble forever, and that's the risk that happens, you know, and so you gotta be
mindful of that with your depth chart right now. I think both ways. Whenever you look at the playbook, when ever it went from Dak Prescott a drink a little bit to Andy Dalton. Whenever Andy Dalton went out, that police book's gonna shrink a little bit to Bend and Neuch. You might add a little bit due to his mobility.
And then you've also got a shorter playbook with Garret Gilbert. Now, ladies and gentlemen of Talking Cowboys, let me introduce you to the the incredible, the Dreadlock driven the tell Tolls or whatever not Tulsa Tesla man, mister Isaiah, standback. Welcome to work, buddy. How's it going? Things are good? Are you trying to give me a test of the contract? Is that what you trying to do. I'm just trying to get a dad. I'll take a forward too. Yeah, that's true. I'll take a forward any day. But let's
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Work it out. We do have turf in front of us, so I can't get a little running. Yeah that's true, you can. Yeah, maybe that's what the payment should be. Yeah. Interesting, Maybe maybe you could probably work out. Yeah, you know, I got the hamstring, oh rom saying we'll get britt down down on that one round. Maybe we'll get Brown back here here. Get the chords out here, I've had them pretty the chords in the parachute that we saw our man out here doing yesterday. Is he taking a
day off? I don't see it. I wouldn't blame him. He ran up and down this place like one hundred times yesterday. Kyle Yeomans, heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand Back, Chris Beam in the back and well first off, we're glad you made it here safely, which I feel like might have been a lower percentage than usual. But whenever it comes to the Cowboys defense this week, going up against Carson wins and Wins really kind of found a groove over the last couple of weeks, especially late
in football games. And we talked about the Cowboys offense a little bit and Ben de Nucci and his readiness, but what is the readiness for Philadelphia whenever it's Carson Wentz And that's about it. Whenever he comes to that offense. I mean, the offensive lines banged up, wide receivers are banged up, and then he's finally finding a way to fight and claw his way back into these football games.
But what kind of challenge does that present for a Cowboys defense knowing a familiar face and wins but really nobody else outside of him. Um. I know there's there's guys missing obviously, right, but I mean it's still the NFL and these guys are they still random ball pretty dog officially against Baltimore, so um and Baltimore is probably the defense that closest resembles us UM that they faced
this year. So that was impressive. When I watched that, because we all know Baltimore has some dudes on that defense and their schemes are nice as well, and they were efficient and running the ball again against them, So that that made me a little bit concerned for our defense being the fact that we've struggled in that regard. Also some of the some of the schemes that they have in terms of their running, they're pretty dog aren't creative. You know, we talked about it in the film room
this week. Um, some of the things they do in terms of pulling their guards, pulling their tackles, and misdirection, you know, pulling Jalen Hurts in the game. You know, they're utilizing him a lot more people people. Everybody's talking about wins, but you can't forget about Jalen Hurts, um and with his abilities, because he is coming in and they're using him very similar to how the Saints use um Ta Hill. Yeah, takesom Hills. So UM, you know
that's something we have to be alert for. They try to spread you out, um, which is not something that we want to do either, because we've been soft in
the middle. Um, even though we just cut some bait and I'm not our young guys are gonna have to step up and have a presence there because this team is gonna they're gonna stretch you out fifty fifty three and a half yards man, and that really just opens up the middle, really isolates your you know, your middle linebacker, you know, vander Rashi and there in the middle behind four linemen or three linemen. Really, he's gonna be a
We're gonna see what happens. Man, baby, I'm concerned. Yeah, yeah, you guys did a great job in the film room talking about those misdirection plays in the run game and how not only are they testing the cowboys you know, speed latterly, but also the eyes and and and what they're diagnosing before the snap. So that's part of it. That's part of their game. Peterson's got a lot of tricks up his sleeve. They're getting some guys back. I don't I don't know if Raker is gonna be back
for them, Jalen reagor he is gonna be bad. You know, that's another guy with speed that can beat you down the field. Um, they're getting they're getting healthy or on healthier or on both sides of the ball. So Um, we'll see they've they've just defensively, they've just got to be more in tune together. We've been to I don't know how many weeks we've been talking about just symmetry and and trusting each other to make their individual assignments
and not trying to go outside of the game plan. Heck, all the things you're talking about out of all the things we struggle with. When you say, mister direction is spreading us out, we're giving up one hundred and seventy yards on the ground and so uh yeah, so how do you plan to not give up one hundred and seventy yards rushing you? And we we also we've cut bait, we've done Terry Poe is no more. But we may have bigger problems than Jess Poe and we'll find out
Bowen Whorley. We'll find out this week what other problems we have upfront. But this defense has to be stout. They have to play together. These miscommunications in the backside of the defense has just got to stop. If it's covered four of its cover three B assignment sound high school defenses. Yes, I'm talking about the high school defenses that we need to master here because I mean, it's
it's unacceptable. It's unacceptable when you start talking about the yard is that we're giving up and where we rank defensively, not being able to get any turnovers at all. I believe we have one on one on the year and we're all three three turnovers, one interception, one interceptions. So look, it's it's we're in a dire position right now where we have to get some kind of spark and maybe this youth movement is going to help us. You'll have guys out there that are willing to give that effort
and fly around, but we got to do something. Man hey, at least the guy who had that interception returns this week. Cheeta ooosi a literally made the interception week one, then missed on ir and now he's back and we still haven't had another interception, So maybe he's the key to the puzzle. Was the Anthony Brown touchdown? Was that a pick or score? Yeah? That was off of that DeMarcus Lawrence strips yack. He just came up. Our record right now, guys coming up I R making plays are pretty good.
That's a very good point. That's a d're adding that to the sandwich we're serving it up whenever it comes to Jaln Ragor. And I didn't know this until just now, So I'm glad heck us up on top of this more so Philly News than than I have been. But Jalen Ragor DFW product one. We haven't had really a great track record against DFW products going against the Cowboys
this season aka Kyler Murray. So now that he's coming up off of IR, and this is a rookie wide receiver that presents a lot of challenges much like Ceedee Lamb does the opponents. But he's maybe he's faster than Ceedee Lamb and it's more of a deep threat I think, at least for the Eagles offense than Ceedee Lamb. Who do you cover him with? Who do you put on him? You put a cheeto even though he's back on IR though he might be your faster corner. Or who do
you cover Jalen Rager with on the defensive side? You think it doesn't matter? Doesn't matter because the reason why I say it doesn't matter is because I don't foresee us playing man defense. We should we should we should not be playing man defense. I'll put it that way. It's a good point we should be playing Cover three. We should be playing some variations of Cover six. We should we should be mixing up in that regard because we need our guys in the box to stop this run.
We have to stop the run. I am okay allowing Carson Wentz to try his try his luck at trying to beat us throwing the ball. I'd rather have that than let these guys come troll the game on the ground. And as if we didn't have anything else to worry about with Folgom and Ward and here comes ragor Um and these guys have to be up to the task. Yeah,
I would definitely scrap cover for at this point. You know, which sucks because that's your that's the coverage that you call when you don't want anybody to get behind you exactly. But we just, I mean, we just hadn't been able to do it. You don't have any take to show you that we can be competent in that coverage. So look, we have to stop the run. Like you said, Isaiah, and deep threats like Jalen Regor And I agree with you, Kyle, he is fast. Uh. I don't know about the comparison
with more of a deep threat than CD. You kind of went on different reasons for different Yeah, yeah, I mean a receiver. But I heard you in the draft show and you just kind of, you know, I heard you, so really good wide receiver. I was just that was his guy, Isaiah, So yeah, I was. He was. He wasn't a pet cat, but he was. He was borderline close borderline. And I'd also seen him in high school. It walks a hatchie. I've seen he's well, actually I dislike walks a hatchie, and I dislike TCU as a
fan's pet cat. Chris is calling him a rescue kiscue. He's a rescue cat. No, he's more than that. He's a good wide receiver. But uh but yeah, he's gonna present challenges to this defense, no doubt about it. But also, how good is Folk? I mean, this is a guy who I've seen big put up there as one of the better wide receivers in the division. I mean, there there are people putting him above Terry McLaurin. We saw
what he did last week. There are people putting him above Michael Gallop and of course what they have out there. I'm not saying I'm one of those people, but he presents challenges in his own right. Yeah, but I I mean, I just I'm with Isaiah on this. If they don't stop the run, nothing else matters. That's true. I mean, that's been the case every game except for maybe maybe the Giants game because they don't I think they only average like three point three Kerry, but they were still
getting some runs. They were still they were still got away from the run. The teams that show they haven't done well again with the run against US is because they chose not to. Yeah, has abandoned it. I keep going back to Boston Scott just his skill set, to me is something you've really got to monitor with what we've seen the Cowboys up against the season. Got a guy in space that can beat you a bunch of different ways. That's that's a matchup they've got to take
care of in this game. That's scary to think about because even if the Cowboys do stop the run game, there's a chance that Philadelphia goes over the top with wins and finds a way for the options. But let's go back to the fact that Philly is two four and one and leading the division at two four and one. Hey, but getting better. You're saying they are getting better. That's getting healthy, is Lloyd Christmas. Let's just go ahead and late us on the table right now. In the NFC East,
records don't matter. It's true, true, records don't matter. A losing record is going to win this this division this year. It's just I mean, that's what it is. Seven and nine wins, Yeah, that's what it's gonna be. A losing record wins this division and goes to the playoffs six and ten, six and ten. Just wrap your head around that right now. But soon we stop talking about records. It really it doesn't matter what's your record, all right. Rocket Now, Even with that being said, Hacked, I feel
like you have some disdain in your heart for Philadelphia. Oh. I absolutely hate Philadelphia. And that's uh, it goes back a long time. And since I had you know, Ashley knees man, I have not liked the Philadelphia not anymore. Hey, I got this shape. But Cocoa, they mounched your going, but I don't. I mean, and if you're a Cowboy fan, you know, man, they you know, they booed us through the Ryan days, Buddy Ryan defense. I mean, come on, man, but you know what, it's fun to play in Philly.
I bet it is fun to play. If I'm not mistaken, I think my first game was in Philly. It's fun. Man. You gotta love that environment. And fortunately it's not going to be that. They won't environment right now. But you know, I feel like being the Nuci with his swag. I think he would welcome that. I think I think he would welcome And he's a Pennsylvania guy, that's true. He is. Yeah, he's going he's going home. So so there's another guy
doing this thing. So he's you know, like Philadelphia. They sing this this little song every time they come to our stadium. They try and sing the pigeon song that they say. It's just not a team I like. And so I'm gonna have a hard time when we say with our chest here here in just a minute everything, because this is probably one of my least favorite teams ever, so ever, ever, ever, ever. Yeah, man, there's a lot of people I want to beat them in anything. Anything.
I want to see him lose. Whoever played against him, I'll picked that team. Yeah, double dutch basketball Dominos, it don't matter. I love that he threw double dutch. That's our first double Dutch reference on talking there was a double Dutch in the hood. Where are you now? I was not allowed. That's a whole other d No, don't even such along. We're gonna take a break. When we come back, we're gonna we might discuss this. We're gonna
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I'll go every year. You really, I do no way he even when they're like out in Vegas and they're doing all whenever they come to the state. When they come here, Okay, take the fan out there. You can find me on the nosebleas. Mmm, you know this one's the big one though, this is this is the one they're supposed to be in Vegas. They moved it to here. This is like, this is like the big, big one. You can find me at the top of the stadium
unless the PBR wants to bless you. Boy. Oh, we're trying to get up in the Okay, we're trying to We're trying to help hook up get Yeah, there you go. Lower. I'll have to do better on the read next time in order to get you some better tickets. Now it is saying with your chest Friday, Isaiah drove like ninety five to one hundred on the way here. We can't tell anybody at sixty five seventy Boddy, Yeah, there you go. Look at you over there, olock. Yeah, yeah, you're just
getting here quickly. By the way, Isaiah didn't forget about the show, or he didn't oversleep or anything. He was ready for the show. Ready. He was sitting in our usual virtual set up, yeah, in the pod, yeah, by himself for how long? Yeah, I was. I was there for about a good fifteen minutes. And we supposed to get on fifteen minutes before and be ready set up. So we're coming out of nine viteen. I'm there at nine o'clock. I'm sitting there waiting in my chair and
doing a little bit more research, watching my videos. And I was the only guy there, you know, And um, you know, there's no excuse, you know, no excuse. You know. I wasn't where I was supposed to be when I was supposed to be there. Um, you know. And all I can do is get back in the game now and try to make it up. We'll just look looking ahead to next week. We'll be better next week. Well, we'll go back to watch some film. We'll get better
along to the day. It's not over yet, right, So I'm gonna try to finish this game with my chest. So we're gonna do that. Finish it with your chest. Now. None of us really had a good week last week in terms of our predictions. Uh, Isaiah, what do you do? Went two and three? Rob went two and three, As we had the pats, I went two and three. Let I go one and four. Oh so, so I gained the game on Heckma, but I didn't gain anything on Rob and Isaiah. Isaiah and Rob or at the top
of the standings thirteen and eight overall this season. Heck Man High are both now with losing records for the first time. We're both ten and eleven up. Yeah, well the thing is to if you look at it, we're only three games out. We can catch back up pretty quickly. Here and again to say less with my chest this week, be more conservative, make the mistakes. I just gotta ask you, guys. We're sitting here, we're bundled up in did you guys just see the guy walked by in the halter top?
He made us real PRAI alright out here, I gotta like take my cut off sleeves and shorts. Just chilling now. He's in a sunny spot. We're not. But either way, yeah, I felt some kind of way about that. I'm sorry. All right, We've got ourselves a battle for the AFC North Sunday at noon on CBS, Steelers versus the Ravens. Steelers the only undefeated team in the NFL right now. The Ravens at five and one. Rob will get you to start us off today. What's Steelers in? Ravens Steelers
Ravens Classic matchup? I'll go, oh, there's NEWI Scruggs walking around. We're in the middle of a show. I'll go with h I'll go with Pittsburgh just because I think the way their defense has been playing lately, mixed with with Ben being healthy, that they look like a Super Bowl contender. Well, yeah, Baltimore too, but i'll take Steals in a close one. Steelers in a close one is Saiah. I'm going with
Baltimore with their new additions. You talk about Dez isn't playing, that's true, but we got the defense in from from Jacksonville playing with camp big Campbell again. So I don't even want to try to pronounce the last name. But um, that D line just got a little bit more stout. It's I Gianic. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Stillers. Mmmmm. I'm gonna pick the Ravens at home here. I think they'll take take Lamar Jackson in company. I think the
Steelers are really good. Maybe, yeah, a little separation at least. Okay, how about well the Chiefs Jets. No, I'm just kidding. We're not gonna pick that game. That's like the largest spread game of the season, I think by quite a bit. Yeah. Uh, let's go to let's go to the Bears at home against the Saints. Chicago eight or eighty four rushing yards per game this season, fewest in the NFL. They're going up against the Saints, but they are at home. It
Soldier Field. I'm gonna pick the Saints on the road to get a win and bounce back here. And that's even without knowing if Michael Thomas is gonna play or not. I would still say it with my chest. I'm gonna say the Saints. I'll go. I'll go Bears at home. You know, growing up watching the Saints on the road, cold weather, usually a difference doesn't work out. Well, give me the Bears at home. Okay, I see you. Yeah, Bears pass rush and Soldier Field cold. Yeah, I'll go Bears.
I'm going Saints. Go right ahead, Saints, Saints. You and I are on the same We're all the way across where we're on the same page. The world be separation created this week. Okay, how about this one going out west again, Seattle at home playing against the forty nine ers. All three of you guys pick Seattle last week, and I picked Arizona. So I got locked. Oh bad? Yeah, I did totally lock up on that one. I'm not gonna lie so Seahawks forty nine ers, Isaiah, you already
know what I'm going with. Yeah, I wanted to get that one out of the way again. And just for the record, Seattle, no y'all want you try to turn it around on me. Well, you already know I'm a big Jimmy Garoppolo fan went in doubt Russ Seattle, trust the rest. You're gonna make up a game here trying to make up. I'm gonna picked Seattle, so I'll get that out of the way. Now you could really pick up again? Will be that guy double down? Come on, I'm gonna double down with the Niners. Have to have to,
no risk it, No biscuit, I got him? Do we like the lead widens there? Russell Wilson thirteen and four career record versus San Francisco and you reveal that now, thank you, Thank you. Do you think you think you're not losing to in a row? Yeah, that's also true. You're saying they're gonna lose to in a row. He said, he's not looking. I know I'm saying, are you saying that because you just picked San Francisco? I am I'm saying that. Okay, I'm giving you a couple of chances here.
They have the worst, one of the worst. They have defenses as bad as ours, Seattle. I don't know about as bad as ours, but close because now it's better next week they got two guys. They just added one more before the Cowboys game Indianapolis four and two on the road against Detroit and the Lions at three and three. Detroit. It's lost six straight home games, which is kind of crazy to think about, including what that come from behind crazy one against the Bears earlier this year. But who
do you guys have in this one? Colts are Lions. I'm gonna go Colts, Colts. I'm Colts. I have no hope in the Lions. M Yeah, Griffin though, um what you can't play the Yeah that can't probably can't play this. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Lions here. I'm gonna trying to pick up a game here. Come on, Maddie Stafford, Maddie staff that's the first game I think you and I have picked against each other. Yeah, no, I'm disappointed you actually Okay, yes, I'm picking the Lions. It's the
presence of Everson Griffin. That's gonna turn that franchise around. That's what's gonna happen. So now going into Sunday Night football, the Dallas Cowboys on the road against the Philadelphia Eagles. Let's go with who wants to start us off. I'll let you guys choose want to start up? You've been going lately? Yeah? First, Okay, I'll go first. I'm gonna
pick Philadelphia. And the reason why is because last week I took a chance on those Dallas Cowboys and I said, we all after well, after the Arizona loss, I said, I'm never gonna pick the Cowboys until they win again. Wow. And I was like, you know what, I'm gonna pick them against Washington because I think they're the better team. I still think the Cowboys can win this game. I just don't think they will. I'm gonna pick Philadelphia twenty
seven seventeen final score on the road. Unfortunately, and the Cowboys fall to two and six. I hate it? Why? Why are you? I'm very curious what your pick? I don't want. Okay. So there's a lot of gloom and doom right now over the franchise and h and there are a lot of people saying that this team is gutless and we're sitting here the taj Mahal Football Yeah nice, And you guys, this is sacrilegious to pick the Eagles
sitting here in this setting. Unbelievable. And I don't know anybody that act who could actually who couldn't actually do such a thing in a setting like this. Look at this place, guys, we're sitting in the end zone here and the Tostitos Plaza picking. No. I cannot There's no way possible that I can do this as a cowboy fan, Cowboy nation. It's just I'm sorry. If I just credit my whatever, that's it? Say what your chest? Chest? What's your pretic? What's your picking? What's the score? You have
a cowboy shounder under that that jean jacket? Should you rip it open and reveal the star hasties. I got some pasties on and I got his pass right now, Turtleneck. You know, no team has ever made it to the playoffs that's finished two and six yet yourself right now? Oh god, I can't you just you just said your whole little spiel. Come on, oh god, I do I have to pick this game to come hurt. Cowboys. Cowboys,
Cowboys score to the zero. Okay, so we're the only ones that are fighting zone telling me ro we win the game. I cannot pick the Eagles. I'm it's impossible. I can't do it. Okay, you're me Okay. He makes me feel really guilty, cowboy, Thank you, thank you, you're making me feel really gilty. Over here, get your insurance card out, Rob. Who's it with? It's with the Dallas Cowboys. But I've been taking a week off your week. I'm going Philly this week. Look say it with your chest,
Say it with your chest. Seventh quite quite possibly having to start a quarterback Sunday night. It's it's just a tough They just are overmatched at this point in terms of the injuries. I'm gonna go with Philly. They might surprise us, but I'm gonna go twenty seven Eagles Cowboys fourteen? Did you just crack the window by saying my surprises? You crack? I mean, I mean I did the same thing a little boyd Christmas style, just a little bit. But all right, what was the score? Twenty seven fourteen?
You guys are pretty close, pretty close? Yeah, Yeah, I'm going to go thirty four, uh thirty four seventeen. So I'm all by myself. Yeah, he didn't say it. I mean, I'm by myself. There's no way it's gonna do that. Look at him, man, no way. Get my feet off the end zone real quick. Philadelphia is um, they have they just have too much until until Dallas. But they can do Dallas can show us, um that they are
who they are on paper. Yeah, I just can't. I can't, right, not in this matchup, not in this rivalry matchup on the road with a rookie quarterback with no timing, beat up offensive line, um in a in a Philiodilphia team that's getting healthier. It's just it's just hard for me to foresee that scenario it plays out that way. I mean, that's that's where you're at. The fact. It's a Cowboys fan right now, where it is right, You're you're banged up, emotions,
you're exactly. I mean, this is just straight straight fact right now. There's a little emotion in the heads of fire, that's it. He always takes the emotion out of it though facts and fire. Hey man, Hey look man, I'm from Dallas. I'm from here. It'd be like me standing in Seattle picking another tip. I can't do it. I just I mean, when the facts are slapping you, I will not pick the Eagles ever. That's fine, totally fine. I respect one respected, but I appreciate you guys saying
it with your chest. As always, Isaiah, be safe, getting chilling on the way. Well, guys, it's been fun this week special thanks to funtwn RV outside, Yeah, Duncan Donuts, everybody who's been around this weekend helping this pull things off with Brad and Alex and Matt and Pete and everybody involved. Chris Beam as always in the back for Isaiah, stand back, Rob phillips Ack, My Harrison. I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long this week for talking Cowboys. Enjoy the game.
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