Talkin' Cowboys: New Challenge On Defense

we are live and ready to go. We in here, that's right up in here, up in here, ready to roll, as we preview the Cowboys defense and how they slowed down that Chargers offense. It's gonna be fun here over the next forty minutes. We got to get out a little bit early today because we gotta get out of the way, unfortunately because coach Mike McCarthy has shifted the schedule around a little bit. No. To tell the truth, it's it's the break is on after us and we

have to be from That's what it is. We have to get out of the way for there standing out there with their watching right if you have thirty eight that's right anyway, DJ Kelley, is it if you're at home and you're a fan of talking cowboys, voice your displeasure at Derek Eagleton. I don't want kid, okay, I don't want to get into nervous laugh. That's another thing, you know. I wanted to get out of the way of all the petty drama between the break and hanging

with the boys. I think it's stupid. So you know, I do have a new challenge out what I just I just can't on mind. I want to see Derek eagleson know versus Rob p Island in a forty yard dash. Oh no, no, no, no. You always shy away from stuff like you know my injury history? Do you knows mine? I guarantee you that I don't know. Is it extensive? Yes, hamstring related, it's it's lower it's lower trimmy, it's yes, it's it's ankles, it's just lower body. Do you want

to pass that off to would you like to? Would you like the phone a friend in and pass that off the Kyle. I would not be on IR designated to return. I would just be okay. So it's just I would like to pass my baton. I'd like to pass my baton to Heck Harrison. You want he doesn't want, So Derek Eagleton versus Heck Ma Harrison. Man, listen, man, forty my racing days is over with man, so you shine away too. And come on, now, what is this competitive way? You know? I mean I don't run from

no challenge. I mean, what are you talking about? Okay, what you're talking about? A CB We gotta set that up. One day he challenged him, he won eightyed right back to what it is and make it understood. Let's go what's the real quick what would the prize be here? Like we're talking about a bonus. We're talking about pride, We're talking about the Fastest the Fastest podcast on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I kind of like k wise idea, let's just fly under the radar. Let let hang in

and break them. Yeah, Bachelor in Paradise thing with all the drama here, but we can race them. Huh, but we can race them. The racing's fine I'm talking about. I wish we would do that and do it like a charity deal, like have a whole cheerity deal where like we all run a forty out at the stars and we got the things. Just have ice. I do it in charity. I think it'd be really cool. I put the players lounge. Probably got says the guy that

the players lounge. What he said, the players lounge and thinks so they could beat us probably out of here. There's not nobody on any podcast. I could feel like knew he would weigh that one down a little bit. Church. I was smash Church in the forty right now. That makes one of us on the show. So that's it. Church get hit but he can't catch me. Oh okay,

well we're gonna have to talk about that. I like this now, we're really getting into this real um okay, just no, Jesse's been hitting the weights, man, Jessica hit the weights all day long. Jesse might run a four six. Damn that's pretty high, man, that's pretty good. What are you hitting right now? Hitting like Isiah? Faster than that,

faster than than a four six? Yeah? I got leftover speed, were doing Henry Rugs have leftover speed, leftover speed, left over Yeah, y'all do realize the break is gonna be right behind. Yeah. I don't know what are we doing, but this is important. Is it important? Okay, it is? You know what else is important? Dan Quinn scheming up to stop Justin Herbert and we mentioned this a little bit yesterday, but he's gonna have to do it, uh in the debut for Justin Herbert against the Dallas Cowboys.

These two teams were originally supposed to meet last year in the preseason, which we would have seen the first little haste of Justin Herbert. But now the second year rookie makes his way against the Dallas Cowboys in front of a full so fine stadium. I mean, it's gonna be a packed house and it'll probably be pretty darn loud, if I guess, I think it's gonna be rocking. But Rob, when you look at Justin Herbert and the specific things that he can do on the offensive side, what scares

you the most about what you've seen? I think it's I think it's his beyond just his skill set, it's the guys around him. I mean, he's got maybe the best receiver, one of the top receivers in the league. And we'll get into all the different guys, but I'll just you know, they've got a nice two punch it wide at tight end, and they've rebuilt their offensive line, so you know, it's early, so it's hard to know

exactly what they look like. And they went up against a really good defense that got to him to some degree Washington did last week. But it's just kind of a better supporting cast than he had last year. So I kind of look at the same as Joe Burrow in Cincinnati, Like, just by that alone, Uh, he's more of a challenge than he would be last year. I think. Yeah, coming out of coming out of Oregon, I think a lot of people had him ranked a little bit too low.

I mean after he after his rookie season. Um and Justin hurt Herbert is one of those guys that have easily got the uh, the reputation of being a smart quarterback. Obviously, I think he's like a bio moleculars guy as far as his degree playing what's concerned. None of us would have been able to get in that degree play and

I don't do that. But just a smart guy. And not only that, he's big, it's big, and he has a big arm, and he's one of those guys that I believe that the NFL views him as the future. I mean He's quintessential uh quarterback, big smart um and big arm, you know. So you know, I look at him, and I look at some of the things that he does on the field, and I'm like, wow, I really enjoy watching that kind of quarterback play for me. The San Diego walk right into that. The Chargers, uh, you know,

they don't with Lombardi their their offensive coordinator. They don't do a lot of motion and things like that. So I think they put him in the best position to succeed. But I think there's some other things about his game that will will get into as well. Yeah, Heckman just went straight into my point. Lombardi is really the key to this thing. I know, we want to talk about Herbert and some of the other guys they have out there, Allen and Eckler and all those guys. But um, but

Lombardi puts these guys in position to be successful. And I say that because as I've been watching the film, I've probably watched this game a good four or five times now. Where these guys are running West Coast offense. This is straight West Coast, this is straight mirrored routes, old school Jason Garrett ish. All right, But but shorter routes, right, Jason, Gary used to make you hold the ball a little bit. These routes are five ten yards down the field and

they try to lull you to sleep. They give him high percentage passes to throw, they're giving him easy reads. He does. He doesn't have to think. He's getting a ball in the hands of his playmakers, and they're asking those guys that didn't go do what they do in terms of the yak yardists. So I'm as I look at this, at this offense, our defense, I'm trying to think, what can they do, what can they do to disrupt where Herbert knows because they're not gonna really have the

time to get back there. I'm a challenge like last week where Brady's got the ball out of his hands two seconds second half, it's gonna be like that. Yeah. Well, and it's because of the way that they scheme it up. And you're right the game that you're referencing, the Washington Los Angeles game that happened in Week one. I was expecting Herbert to come and throw the football around a little bit. I mean, his arm talent is elite. That's what I had on my scouting report. Last year whenever

he was coming out of Oregon elite arm talent. And then you also look on the outside and I would say Mike Williams and along with Keenan Allen, are both top notch deep threats in the league, both of which can take the top off of a defense. But they don't. At least they didn't last week, and they might this week. That's my question that I'm going to turn around to you. Do you expect them to do something like that? I

think they may take more shots at us. Reason being, when you're playing against against the Washington football team, you don't want to hold the ball, for instance a period of time. So they weren't allowing those guys to get home, even though their ricky tackle did a heck of a job keeping the deep. As a line of if Washington, yes, later, freaking man, he showed up. I didn't even know who this cat was until I watched the film. You knew who he feeled me in? Yeah, you feeled me in,

But no, um. I think that they did a heck of a job and are I think they're gonna take more shots against us if we based upon what we put on film last week. They are going to test us and it's our it kind of it kind of backdoors what we were saying yesterday in terms of us being able to match their personnel. We need to put

our bigs on their bigs. We need Diggs, we need nay Sean, We need those guys putting hands on those guys in line of scrimmage so that they can't get free releases and that they can't get down the field. And then our d line has time to get home. Yeah, but you're right that they would get in the last week's game, they'd get the ball and Keenan Allen's hands in space like out on the edge, bubble screen type stuff and let him go to work, which he can do.

And he's going to be the biggest challenge, there's no question about it. And they move him around as well, move him in the slot a little bit, try to get him off of potential double coverage and stuff like that. So it starts with him, but they've got other guys. Heck no, and I watched the same game, and you realize that Herbert was cognizant of getting the ball out of his hand. He knew that pressure was coming. But Keenan Allen to me, is the possession receiver for the Chargers.

He's a guy that can run all of those intermediate routes. He does that well. I mean, top five deal alive when it comes down to route runners. Keenan Allen is that you know, and you can argue at five all you want to, but he is in the mix of some of the best Mike Williams when you watch when you watch the Chargers, he's there, big play guy. And the thing that I noticed about Herbert is he is still a young quarterback and he has young quarterback tendencies.

He will stare down his receivers and that may be the opportunity for our defense because he does that. Now, I gotta ask you, because you know a lot of times when you give your anecdotal accounts about playing wide receivers in DBS in this league, why is the perception that if you're a zone corner you're you're not any good? Because to me, looking at this team, if you play zone,

you don't have to travel guys. You can actually stay back and do all the things that you talked about as far as putting hands on guys and recognizing where the areas that you're covering so you don't have to take the same approach that you did last week per se with Tampa. True. And so I mean, for you, do you think that when you looked at the tape, did you say zone works better versus or are we gonna stay true to the Tampa two man? I think

I think you want to play zone. I think you want to play kind of one high zone though, because the reason being, these guys run a lot of flag routes, a lot of out routes, yep. And you want to have those guys underneath, right, you want to have four to five guys playing within that five to ten yard

barrier because that's where they're living. So putting being able to put you know, Neil and be able to put Parsons and Jabril Cox and all these guys at that second level to be able to run sideline the sideline, but also have the length, to be able to consolidate those those gaps, because you're gonna have gaps in his zone. That's what his zone is, right, and those guys are gonna try to try to you know, obviously take advantage

of that. But when you have length and when you have speed, that's when you can kind of counter their ability to be able to convert on those things, do you think. I mean, I'm just trying to go back to what we had talked about yesterday because we mentioned man versus zone against. This has your thought process shifted? It all on what you want to go to in terms of how you would if you were in dan quinn shoes combat this off. I think you have to

mix it up. And the thing is those guys, you obviously don't want to come out and just run straight zones, especially yeah, especially with these guys, and that's not what they did last year. That's what they did last we give. I mean, you would never do that in the game plan. However, these guys run a lot of tight splits. So when you're running a lot of tight splits, it makes it

difficult to play man. What is tight splits? Tight splits meaning that the receivers, instead of being out wide, they're literally close to the tackles. Right, So these guys are three two to three yards off of the tackle. Looks like a bunch. It looks like a kind of a bunch set. But you know, two guys on each side

and they're typically running the same round. Keeping things snug. Yeah, so you allow yourself to have you know, twelve or fifteen yards of space to run your routes on the outside kind instead of instead of lining up five yards from the sideline, now you have fifteen yards from the

sideline to work, and it open open things up. Also, if I'm close to me, if me and Rob pe are in a in a tight set right and we're close to our tackles, now all of a sudden, if you guys are playing man to man, we can do all kinds of nasty things in terms of our release to pick you guys. I can have Rob cross my face and guess what you're gonna do. You're gonna run over the top of Heck mon, well, guess where I'm going. I'm going underneath Rob, so he can't play me man

to man. It's an easy five yard pitching cash, just like he talked about Keenan Allen getting and then guess what, now you have to worry about this guy in his yack yardage. I was just gonna say, the Rams run some of that kind of stuff absolutely where. And there's a lot of variations off of that depending on what the coverage is. So yeah, McBay likes and no one did the pick plays better than New England cheaters. But that's yeah, I read a lot of pig plays. But

you're right. I just want to go back to what you said about dan Quinn and just disguising those coverages showing man playing zone things like that, and everybody does it in the NFL. I mean, but at the same time, you're dealing with still a young quarterback and you want to make sure that you disguise it. But let's go back to what we know is gonna work for this defense, and it's an old remedy, your defensive line creating pressure.

It's gonna it's gonna cure everything. You know. It's it's like my grandmother and castor all Man, she thought that that cured everything. To take it, yeah, you know, it's horrible, but it's an old remedy that cured everything. And the defensive line is that cure. I mean, if you can get pressure on the quarterback, then that alleviates a lot of the time that you're dealing with in that zone in man. So I'm looking for this defensive line today, I mean for Sunday to just I mean, bring it.

If You're gonna bring a blitz get home, and that's what we have to Michael Parsons last week did not get the pressure on Tom Brady because of his quick releases. But I think we have opportunity this week. You have an opportunity to get after a young quarterback this week, and I think that's something that no matter what it is. I mean, Tom Brady and Justin Herbert are on different levels in terms of getting the football out quick, no matter how much you scheme it up. For Justin Herbert,

I want to see I'm in the same way. I want to see DeMarcus Lawrence get after it. He had the forced fumble last week. I want him to have an encore. I want him to come after the quarterback. I want to get a couple of sacks because he didn't really see a whole lot of that. That is that when you bring up de Marcus Ware, that is Lawrence Lawrence, de Marcus Lawrence Storm Norton is the left tackle. That the tackle that he's going to be going against.

The right tackle, yeah, that he's going to be going against. And I mean that one on one matchup, if he has it, he has to win that matchup. Definitely see you guys are looking at the d line. I'm honestly looking at our second level this game. I'm looking at the linebacker. I'm leving our linebackers. I think our ability to run and hit is going to be the deciding factor for us. I think they're going to get the

ball out. Will they take their shots? Absolutely? Absolutely, especially if we put you know, shorter stature guys on their big boys out there. They're running six two six four out there, all right. They have a little guy too, but he's in the backfield and he's kind of shifty, right. But in terms of us, I think our guys a gonna have to run and hit and be physical as all get out, obviously rushing to the ball, swarming the ball and trying to get the ball out that way.

I think we got force turnovers. We did it last week, but I think we can force turnovers that way. But I really think it's going to be dependent on our second level guys being able to make plays. I really like you bringing up the linebackers here because I feel like that's one thing we really didn't hit a whole lot outside. I had of snap count from last week.

So let's take our break. When we come back on the other side, I want to talk about the linebackers and some of the specific needs that we need to see upgraded from week one to week two. When we come back with more talking cowboys presented by Tostidos Honey, Big News. Gary. Are you okay? Oh? I'm not Gary anymore. I'm Jackie Flash. What see? I want the latest smartphone, but the best deals are only for new customers. So to get a new customer deal, I change my name

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got chill. I got the babysitter lined up, let's go, Let's go, and I think it's really gonna be popping news week. Did you see the videos from it last week? I did not. I don't want to be jealous. It was nut. We're here in the studio. Well they did a live shot. Yeah, they were showing it to It was a couple of things. But I try to close my eyes. It's pretty nuts. It's pretty cool. If I were free, you already a bad thing that road happened to you. Goodness. If I were free on Sunday, I

would totally go do that. But but you're not. I'm not. Unfortunately you can call you yeah whatever, dude, Um, all right, So how I work for you without the pinky so delayed. It's a committed to marinate Um. How would we grade the linebacker performances past week? How would we grade it? And I don't even need mean like letter grade, but just good bad ugly needs improvement? What what what sticker would you put on it? If you had to put

one on it? Rob Um, it was okay. I mean, like I wrote about Michael Parsons a lot yesterday, and I liked a lot of what I saw from him in the game. I mean, his primary responsibilities. It seemed like we're four net wherever he goes, even if he's out wide or and tight ends. And he obviously they

had trouble with Gronk, there's no question about that. But he was around the ball a lot, and he had a lot of fifty fifty almost plays in the game, And so I like that he's still around the ball, he's still given a one hundred percent effort, and I think, you know, some of the communications stuff that will grow as he I love that article. I ran the article man,

and I love how you prefaced up almost plays. I liked, well, that was one twin point was the fifty fifty sideline throw where Brady's like off his back foot and just that was not Tom Brady type throw. And I don't know, I think Dan was kind of suggesting maybe maybe Micah relaxed a little bit because he thought the play was over and he wasn't going that way. Might have been a pick, might have been had been a game changing play, and that's you know, MICA's one hundred ten percent all

the time. So that was a good teaching point for him. But I thought, do you think that pick six this year? Oh? God, dude, I think I could see it. Yeah, if he gets the ball in his hands, it's off to the race. I mean, I don't know if he's gone immediately the first time he gets the ball. But man, I mean at Penn State when he got the ball, he was pretty lethal with it. What do you guys think? I mean,

I obviously defensively they gave up plays. I mean, you know, the second ground touchdown was clearly just a it was a bust playing. Quinn said, I shouldn't have called it, and should not I don't have so he admitted that and maybe shouldn't have called it. And I think Quinn man going back to that cover zero played for GROUNK, I just thought the alignment was wrong. I thought it should have been Wilson on the outside, Tank on the inside.

And that was the thing that led to the play going is because you don't leave the inside of the field like that open in any quarterback in this league is gonna find it. But you know, I think it was fair for the linebacker play. When it comes down to Mica, I understand that they didn't. He didn't play last year at all. And you know, the rookie wall is waiting. I know you got your article ready for the rookie wall, but you know at some point it's gonna happen. But I don't want to see him leave

the field yet. I mean, you see him in there on running plays and he's he's capable. I mean he's like you said, he's always around the ball. He's that opportunistic defender that you want. I love what you were saying, you know, with dan Quinn's communicates, saying that his communication was well, what did you see? Things like that? And not only just for Micah, I think Keen O'Neill he had a situation versus Gronk where you know, he got burned on the first down. But that's things that are

gonna happen. You can look at this matchup. The guy like Jared Cook, veteran tight end ben in the league, know all the tricks to the trade of you still you know again, you get an opportunity to go up against the guy, and I want to see how Neil matches up. I think from a rotation standpoint, I like what we saw on Sunday or on Thursday. Rather, I think the rotation was fine. I thought the way that he matched up specific guys on specific guys is exactly

what dan Quinn was alluding to. So I like that a lot. It was a matchup game, and we talked about the snap counts of Michael Parson's at fifty one, Knew at fifty, Jalen Smith at sixteen, Laton vander Esch at fourteen. I think that switches around, and dan Quinn even alluded to it said it's early, we're gonna play matchup football. Well, now, as you look to the Chargers, you've got guys like Jared Cook as a tight end who had five receptions for fifty six yards this past

Sunday against Washington. He had an opportunity for a couple more. I think throughout that game and they elected to go elsewhere. But now that you see this matchup, Isaiah, how do you see the rotation panning out for the Cowboys linebackers. Yeah, I see it being a lot more equal, I really do. The reason being Jared Cook's not Gronk, sure, and Jared Cook's He's like a juggernaut. When when I think about what we're watching an X man and watching he's a juggernaut.

He takes time to get going. So I think that you, you know vander ash, you know Jayles Smith, those guys that have more of an opportunity to get their hands on him at the line of scrimmage and really just kind of ride his coattail, really sitting in his hip pocket. So I think that we'll see those guys be a

lot more physical. Even though Gronk has ability to be physical, he's more elusive right as big as he is six seven, two sixty wherever he is, he's he's really elusive versus Jared Cook is really just kind of just man, just square. I gotta look up juggernaut. I don't know X men, you know what a juggernaut is? Wow, I know the term out. I don't know the y the shaded video, so you have the visual. But but yeah, so I think that their former kind of game. You never see

Jerry Cooker the same. Again, that's how you residents. But I think these guys will have more of an impact, even more so than than a Neil or a Cox against that particular player. Okay, because they could be more physical, they're heavier. How worried should we be about the linebackers on tight ends? Hecma, I'm worried about any any any linebacker, any linebacker other than Neil and Parsons our Cox on the tight end for sure, based off of their history.

So you know, if that's my take on this is when you do a comparison between what we came up against last week, I like what Isaiah was saying. It's not the same style of a tight end. But still he's a savvy guy, and you know he knows how to find those open spaces in a zone or a man or whatever it's gonna be. I think that, you know, for us, the number one thing has to be circled and underlying to stop the run. Because Austin Eckler and round Tree their backup, the backup running back man, this

guy of them was sorry roundtree to third. He's he's a he's a bit of a change of pace. And so you know, I want to see our linebackers come downhill and expose the charges in that way. And I think that's the that's the bigger, bigger thing for the second level. You're showing who Juggnaut is, so at least now you know, yeah, now Jerry Cook has burned the Cowboys before many Mike McCarthy as his coach a few years ago. That's I was gonna go to the run game.

That's that was a great point because we haven't really talked much about Austin Ekeler and I have that guy. Yeah, they have him too, And we didn't talk much about the run defense because they didn't try it much Tampa Bay true last week. But I thought that was pretty good in a small sample size, that they were physical,

they were in the right spots. I just think just to get back on the linebackers real quick, I think, and we'll see if vander Esh and Jalen play more, and maybe that's more a little more balanced, but that that duo with Parsons and Neil, there is more speed out there. And I just go back to some of

those game games last year. I'm thinking like Arizona Cleveland, where they really tried to stretch the Cowboys out defensively and make them go, like you were saying, side to side move latterly, and that was a weakness last year. Eckler challenges you in that way. Rowntree, even Jalen Guyden some of the things they do with him former Cowboy as well. I think the Cowboys are better equipped with their second level in terms of range to cover some

of those things. So I feel better about those matchups than I did last year with the group they had, and they were missing vander esh last year for a good portion of the season too. No, I like that. I think that's one of the team I guess priorities this past offseason was adding that team speed and picking up guys like Neil and Cox who could add to that,

especially Micah Parsons. But is there a chance that the Cowboys slowed down Austin Eckler kind of how Washington ended up doing last week fifteen carries for fifty seven yards. He's still got that touchdown. It was a run up the middle on the left side just from the goal line or inside the five yard line or whatever it ended up being. But is there a chance that the Cowboys slow him down and bottle them up like the

football team did, Well, you're gonna have to. And Austin Ekeler is still nursing a hamstring hamstring injury, so that may be something to watch. But still, I mean, he's one of those churners. He's a guy that gets into a pile, he continues to move his legs. He obviously goes to Isaiah's jim because this kid is yoked. He is a big, old guy, big and physical as well.

But I like, I mean, the thing with Austin Ekeler is, you know, he lolls you the sleep the way that he runs, and then with the combination of round Tree, I can see how that could be beneficial to them. But number one objective for this defense is going to be stopping the running game, because if the Chargers are able to get that going, everything else is going to be,

you know, just candy for them. Yeah. I think I think that's kind of just back doing what Heckman said and what I said earlier in terms of just us flowing to the ball. I think as long as our guys running hit like they did last week, I think we'll be okay. I think you throw Jalen in and Vanderesh a little more and then you have the even more.

It's kind of like it's kind like bringing in Joel Frasier, right, you get to get to get the heavy hitters in there and then boom pop him out of airlands, bring a speed right, and just being able to mix it up. I think that's gonna be a huge factor for us as long as we can wrap up. I don't think he has an opportunity to guil go off against us. We're shying away from the elephant in the room. Okay, let's talk about the elephant in the room when we

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a lot of them. Um all right, final ten minutes before we get kicked out of here? What was that elephant you were eluded to? Calm down, fighter? We just played that drop like so, I mean defensively obviously last week with all the the receiving yards that we gave up. I mean we're talking about Austin Ekeler and what the running game could do. Obviously there's a matchup that we're looking for here, uh, and it's between we talked about zone versus man. But also who are we going to relegate?

I mean, are we saying Brown and Lewis are going to take over? Uh for the Mike Williams uh duties, the Keenan Allen duties. How do you guys see that unfolding for our defense? Well, I'm curious to see if Trayvon Diggs is just gonna travel every week, you know he basically mean he shadowed Mike Evans for the most part in week one. Is that going to be a regular thing? You know? Is that is? Hey, you're sticking

Keenan Allen for four quarters? Like, I'm curious to see if that's what they do or if they play sides. You know I would do it. Would y'all do it? Uh? You know when I like what Isaiah was saying, big on big and and I like you, I think that that is more to our advantage in a zone coverage kind of way. And I think if you do that, you don't have to travel, or if you do zone on one side man on another, It just depends on

how where Quinn is with his guys. I just feel like when you look at the Charges, they have guys like Jalen Guyton's the tight end that we just talked about Cook, and you know they're running back combination as well. They may not have the three headed monster receiver, but they have three guys that can actually be that one guy. So you know, I'm just really intrigued on how we go into this matchup. And I want to see as

much flat as he's taken this week. I want to see Anthony Brown rebound from this game because when it comes down when you said they're gonna take the shots with Keenan Allen based off of the tape that they see, They're gonna do it right. But also Keenan Allen's thing is those those those middle routes and I think that plays into I hope it plays into Anthony Brown's willhouse to be able to fend that better versus you know,

those goal routes. Do you think the lessons learned against Tampa Bay last Thursday are going to benefit this team now that they don't have to go up against just the gear amount of weaponry this week. I mean, we're talking about Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and Jerry Cook like they're I mean, they're respectable players, but they are not what the Cowboys saw one week one bye. It's a different stretch of the imagine skill sets. It really is different skill sets. You look at last week and

what we face. He had a big Mike Evans, right, they had one big receiver. After that, you had freaking Godwin who's shifty with speed, and you had Antonio Brown, who's freaking however many years ago s right, I mean, speed, shifty, you know, just intelligence all that. So this week it's size.

This week is pure size. It's six two freaking Keenan Allen, who's one of the top five receivers in the league, right, and then you on the other side, you have somebody who's more of a even a deep threat than he is, who's six four, who has a four to five inch advantage depending on if you want to put Brown or George Lewis on him. But and this week is gonna tack taking back five to six inch. I'm sorry, Yeah, no, that's that's absolutely correct. And you think about the Chargers.

But then next week you go up against Philadelphia, who again they have some receivers that are this is the NFL. Yeah, I mean, every week's gonna be a new every week's gonna gonna be a challenge, right, but again, compared to last week, compared to last week, now we have you know, we talked about matchups. You just you just talked about how we need to be able to match guys up.

I think it's unrealistic. Obviously playing his own, it's unrealistic to put freaking a five ten or five eleven on a six four guy who pretty much beats everybody who he comes across. That's unreal that's an unrealistic ask. Now, you can give him support, right, Heck, you could get some support and put guys over the top. And I know coach came back and said that, you know, he didn't he was supposed to have help over the top

and all that. But it doesn't matter. If I look out there and I see I see Anthony Brown, no disrespect him. I'm just off of attributes alone. If I see Anthony Brown out there against against Williams, I'm throwing a jump ball. I'm throwing a jump ball because guess what, I'm either gonna he's either go up and make him play because he's just bigger than you. Not necessarily, it doesn't even have to be better all that kind of stuff. He's just bigger than you, or I'm gonna i'ma gonna

flag ye because you're trying to hold on. Make them make a decision. Absolutely. The Washington put a smaller corner on Williams a couple times last week. It was man to man throw it up. Yeah, it's one reason why the philosophy they have in terms of length and corners with size. I mean, that's that's the way this league's going. You're getting these bigger and bigger receivers every year with this tremendous athletic skill set. And that's what you know.

If you can find a corner, that's not the fluidity to do it. Now in the Sean right ready for this, I guess is the question. And so that that's the question, right, because this is why you drafted him. Sure, this is why you went up and drafted because he guess what, coaches looked at the schedule and he said six two six four, Yeah, we're gonna need somebody to go up against those zous and right now, we don't have that

on our roster. Right, we got our we got our number one and Diggs right, but he's he's even only a second year guy. So Dig's got baptized and baptized by fire last last year. He might you know, Nashan might have to do the same thing. But guess what we got to find out? You sound like hick, Yeah, yeah, we're happy and not where the drop. He was saying that this is why you grabbed him. This is why for why else would you have got Nashan right, Knight?

Not for Antonio Brown. No, you're right. I mean when they drafted Nashan Right, it was puzzling to every draft expert out there. It was puzzling to everybody. But then he got out there and you're like, Okay, now I get it, size, speed, combination, but why did you do it so early, it's because you knew you were going to go up against guys like this. So if they don't throw him out there, that means two things. Either one he's not ready or two that's not why they

drafted him. And I don't see the second one being the case. I don't either. It's just like Rob said, it is baseline. Is Nashan right ready to go? Well, you've got you got veteran corner ahead of him on the depth chart to Kennedy has been in this league a while and as you know, started and played games. I mean, I just think if they want to make a change at some point, they would go to Maurice And I think we give we give Kennedy. I gave Kennedy a lot of credit because of what he did

in otays and preseason getting those those interceptions. He was as impressive as anybody in camp. But if you I always look, you know, I was looking at a guy's career. You know, what has he done in his career? Has he been that in games? Speed? Do we have tape to show in game that he's been that? Dude? And I don't think we have a lot of that. I mean, he played two snaps, I believe the last game, and that's not enough, and especially when you're getting beat like

a drum in the secondary. So he needs enough, He needs an opportunity, but real quickly before we wrap things up, kind of along the same lines as a veteran who didn't see any playing time, Malie Cooker, that did we ever figure out why he was inactive last week? Was it just a numbers thing? Yeah? I mean I think they're just they're they're trying to ramp him up. They barely got to see him in training camp, honestly, and they're just going off of his his history. He doesn't

he hasn't played special teams in his career. So if he's not gonna be on defense, then what's the role for him on game day? I think? But Stephen Jones said on the fan a couple of days ago, like, I think we're going to see him in a uniform this week. Probably they want to see what he can do. Eventually, they're just trying to get him back to uh, you know football. You know, he didn't get back into practice

till we got back from Coxnard. There were a couple breaks, of course against Tampa Bay, and there always will be because it's Tom Brady in that offense. But in terms of the play that you saw from Demante Kayz, did it make you feel comfortable about the safety position moving forward or do you feel like Hooker's going to come in and immediately have an opportunity to challenge for a starting spot. I think this whole secondaries up for grabs,

I think so. I think I think there's gonna be some opportunities or to get in there and get some snaps. I was shot. See how it plays out. I was shocked Curse played as many snaps as he did. Yeah, I mean, I would say because he was was fair, you know, the the forcing the turnover at the end, the goals that was big, you know. But we've talked about safety and trying to get somebody in here that could be impactful. Now we're getting another safety on that

doesn't play any special teams. I just want to know how this is all going to work out. If we're gonna have three safeties, you know, free s, how are we going to do this? Because I mean, you gotta we got some guys by bye week six, they're gonna

be coming on to this roster year. Everybody won't be here. Yeah, the curse thing was interesting because I think that was more of the tight end deal, the double tight ends, Like that's kind of the role they envisioned for him when they signed him, and that was an expense I think of Jalen Smith and Layton Vandersch. So maybe depending on the matchups, because we keep talking about matchups, and

maybe that balances things out a little bit. He's not gonna get forty snaps like he did in the first game. Less curse, more Elfie, more Jalen Smith, especially if if the Chargers don't go a ton of twelve personnel and don't throw two tight ends out there, because I don't see them doing that nearly as much as what Tampa Bay did last week. But that's gonna do it for us here on Talking Cowboys. Glad you've been with us here over the last forty minutes. Special thanks to Chris

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