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Product, Miles Garrett. He's just he's pretty good, dude.
Oh he's just bane, you know what I mean? Yeah, every seing the Dark Knight rises, he's just bane. He's yeah, he merely adopted the Browns, you know what I mean, Like he's the hard assassin. Yeah, of course, ready with so we want to balance out the Marvel garbage.
It's the wrong team in the in the same division, you know, because he was I mean, Gotham had like hines Ward and then the field got blown up by Baine.
And but it makes sense because he's a a arrival of Pittsburgh, right, he blows.
Up hines Field.
That's fair. Is a Browns fans.
I think he came off the top top rop.
Know.
It's too good, it's too good.
Everything I do is calculated, much.
Like that every Bain had to be saved in that movie.
That's true, You're right, So who's the catwoman of it all? No, just kidding, it's.
Too much too I know the main villain's name. What was her name in that movie?
Tal ya all goold Miles Garrett.
Yeah, here's his daughter.
Yeah, actually pronounced racial. But we not to get into.
That's because they shows and then Michael wants to be the assassin.
Yeah, this is this is going, this is going.
I just imagined somebody in their car right now listening to this and they're like, what are the who is that? Do they play safety? I've never heard that name?
Selena Kyle, Like, what's Selena Coyle's forty?
What do they do with the combine?
Like, No, let's get into some news and notes there's plenty to get to and I want to talk a little bit about rooted in a little bit.
Not right now, but we'll get there.
And get Let's just jump right into the first official injury report of the twenty twenty four seven.
If we weren't back, we are now, baby, all right.
So the Cowboys, for anyone that's not on I are they are mostly healthy. The only absence yesterday on Wednesday's practice was John Stevens Junior. He's dealing with a hamstring. He was d and p did not participate. But we had several others that showed up on the injury report. Good news is that they were all full participants though, so obviously no concern there. So DeMont Clark with the knee issue, he's back, full capacity. Marshawn Nielan showed up
with a knee issue, full capacity. Israel mccuamboo that growing issue, he's still working through it, but participated fully. Mazzi Smith popped up with an achilles issue, but full participant. So let's not hit the panic button. There's see your face, Isaiah and ye Toomas says he's been dealing with the growing injury over the past two or three weeks, but
he was also a full participant. So great news for the Cowboys is that no one missed any practice reps, with the exception of John Stevens Junior, who did not practice with that hamstring issue. So that looks good. And as far as the Browns injury report, it had several limiteds no dnps though Jerry Judy was full, j Oka was full. I mean basically their heavy hitters are ready to go as well. So both teams mostly healthy going into it now, segueing to you.
Want to talk about it now? Yeah, talk about it okay.
So yesterday Mike McCarthy he debuted the twenty twenty four theme for the Cowboys. It is quote unquote rooted the way McCarthy described it as, first and foremost, it is inspired by some teachings that he see from his father. Advice from his father, blue collar guy out of Pennsylvania obviously and early in his coaching career, basically told him to live his life in five year increments, right, five year increments.
Now.
That also ties to a Chinese bamboo tree as well.
How do you say the name Zuucha?
Okay, don't ask me, how how do you spell it? Yeah, I don't know how to spell it, but I'm interested. I want to learn how to write it in Chinese.
Though, it'll be nice. That would be cool.
But it's it's called a zuucha tree or just zucha. But basically, and I looked it up, it's real. It's a Chinese bamboo tree that you have to water every day for four consecutive years, and it will not produce any type of growth or any type of fruit for four consecutive years. So obviously it's easy to give up
in that four year period. However, if you are religious in watering it in those seeds for four consecutive years, on year five without fail, it will not only sprout, but it sprouts to the extent of ninety feet in only a month, so it explosive growth in year five. Now tie that all back to what year is this for McCarthy with the Cowboys?
Number five?
Five?
All right? And what did he do in year five with the Green Bay Packers?
Oh?
Just one a super cool So.
Yeah, McCarthy put a lot of thought into this. So rooted it is rooted.
Have you ever seen a bamboo tree, Isaiah? Oh?
Yes, yeah, absolutely.
You have a couple in your backyard.
No, I don't. I love bamboo.
Ninety feet in a month is crazy tree period period. But but the fact that it grows that rapidly in the thirty day period after doing nothing.
For I was doing something, you know, it was it was just getting.
Routed, talking cowboys and talking bottle.
I'm a landscape like part of the shirts that they had hanging up in the locker room, and then I saw one in the training table a moment ago. But on the back it's got two feet with the Cowboys logo and it says stay in the present, and then on the side it says one percent every day, get one percent better every day.
So, I mean, we've seen.
Some some interesting and thought provoked, provoking mottos over the year. I know last year of course was Carpe Omnia. We've had victory, we've had win, We've had finished the five.
That was a Garrett one previous. Uh yeah, this one's interesting. I think, from like a T shirt standpoint.
Not the most marketable, not at all. It's but I love.
How it lands psychologically of philosophically.
And in talking to some of the players in the in the locker room yesterday, they like they like this more like a lot.
This is where the Mortal comeback fight scenes come from.
Is the bamboo tree.
That's great, Okay, I like the I like the idea behind rooted it's awesome.
But he's no graphic designer.
You know, he's no graphic design Do you think Mike cares about how you know, the struggle of marketing that thing at all.
You think you would get a call from the h A if you plan it one of these. Absolutely, Yeah, you're probably fine.
Got my little backyard in the back, and then you see it just sticking out from behind.
Like every day for five years, just like.
It says, it grows upwards of three feet per day and an inch every forty minutes in year five.
That would be trippy crazy.
That means you can sit there, you can just get popular and just watch it go in year five.
That listen, I love it. Give me that.
I'm like infatuated with bamboo. The only reason why I don't have bamboo in my yard is because it's the most intrusive plant ever. Yeah, take over, it will take over everything, and it will uproot your foundation.
Oh wow, I don't like that idea, Yeah, it will.
That's one of the reason even and I even looked into it years ago. I used to go it's not a sponsor, but I used to go to a supply store for the farmers, and you know they have those big old like silver planners. Yeah, and like I was like, Okay, I'm gonna get one of these and I'm gonna plant some bamboo. Nope, did my research. They will bust through the steel and get into the ground.
I mean, you know the strength of a bamboo. Oh, it's crazy. It's nothing getting nothing's getting in its way. So you have to building.
If anybody has any tips on how to grow bamboo without a bit intrusive, please let me know, because I'm literally infatuated with bamboo.
That might be desk version.
We've asked I to have it in my apartment that all the time, that the little.
Very little one. Yeah.
We We've asked a lot of things of talking Cowboys Nation over the year.
That might be the most interesting one that I've ever heard.
If you have any tips on growing bamboo in your yard without my foundation, then let me know.
Let a brother, No, come on, bring this Chinese bamboo somebody.
I swear if I wake up one day, I walk into my front yard there's a bamboo tree.
Your kids are going to be five years old.
Yeah, I'm gonna see.
Now.
I'm afraid to visit Isaiah because I feel like in his yard are going to be booby traps with bamboo. Yes, right, because he just said he's infatuated with bamboo. So I think there's some booby traps, some bambooby traps, if you will, bamboom chance booby traps.
I like ity his oats this morning.
Yes, sir, All right, let's get into this Cowboys offensive matchup against the defensive matchup of the Cleveland Browns.
Of course we do this every Thursday.
It's Cowboys defense on Wednesday, Cowboys offense on Thursday. The number one thing I'm looking for is this offensive line with two rookies up front.
Because off of.
That unofficial depth chart that we mentioned yesterday, Cooper bb is the starting center. Off of the unofficial depth chart. Mike McCarthy was asked about it yesterday. He said, yes, it's Tad that puts it together, the director of PR here and the PR staff that works so great upstairs. Then you've got you've got Mike McCarthy that I proves it you approved, So it has some weight to it, and Cooper bb is at center, Tyler Guiden is at left tackle. Are we shocked by this at this point
in time. Absolutely not, But there will be growing pains, especially when you go up against the defensive player of the year in Miles Garrett. Josh, when you look at that matchup, who do you feel like is going to be under the most pressure to succeed in their NFL debut?
In their NFL debut, I feel definitely Tyler Guiden. It is all all the lights are on him, unless they decide to move Miles Garrett around, which I don't think they're accustomed to. This is something where Tyler Goton is going to be early and often attacked by Miles Garrett, as he should be. If I'm on the Browns, That's exactly what I'm doing. I'm testing that rookie. But they Max Crosby did that as well in the preseason, and
we saw how that turned out. He switched sides. So granted it's preseason, you're not taking like those those real reps, really, but I'm a little concerned about Tyler Goyton. However, I don't think his performance in Game one should be indicative.
Of the rest of his career.
If it's good or bad, just take it with a grain of salt, because that is his first NFL snaps.
What do you think, Matt, It's Tyler Goyton. And for a couple of reasons.
One, Cooper BB is a third round pick, and obviously there's going to be pressure on a third round pick to produce. But Cooper BB entered training camp as the backup to Brock Kauffman. So credit to Cooper BB for winning out ultimately. But I think from the word go, Tyler Goyton had the pressure on him to come in and as the first round pick and be ready to start for week one, and to his credit, he absolutely is.
He looks incredible and he didn't take any time off during the During the off season before training camp, he was working with our good friend Duke Miniweather over oil
master Minds across the street, So credit to him. But that being said, again, first round pick, you're stepping into the role vacated by future Hall of Famer in Tyrone Smith, and you're going up against the reigning defensive Player of the Year, and you're playing left tackle, which means more often than not, you're kind of on that island, whereas Cooper BB look to his left, all pro look to his right, all pro. That makes me feel better, right, So that I mean Cooper BB is sandwich by two
sandwiched by two all pros. So left tackle a little bit more of an island first round pick filling it or not feeling in but taking the rollover from Tyron Smith going up against NFL defensive player of the year. All the pressure, not all, but the majority of the pressure is on Tyler got.
How much will it change?
Like you said, Josh, and I agree with you, you cannot build or tear down this rookie early parts of his career and his rookie season really his first snap in his first snaps.
As an NFL pro.
But how much hype would there be if he stonewalls Miles Garrett for the majority of the game. I don't think it'll happen for the entire game, but I think it's possible Tyler Goton wins a lot of these battles along the way.
Power rankings across the board.
I mean, it would explode his popularity, right, it would be Wow, in your five.
Five snaps, you're ninety feet How early do.
You anticipate Miles Garrett getting into the backfield.
I was watching a lot of film yesterday. I don't I don't know.
I didn't see enough of Tyler Guiden versus ones in the preseason, and I went back.
And against Parsons in practice Crosby in the game.
Crosby really wasn't. It was like I said, Crosby like Crosby in terms of passing.
He didn't.
He only went against Crosby one time really in pass on a passing down and it was a false start or off sides on defense, so he didn't really get a chance to and they ran a stunt, so Crosby went away from him.
I don't know.
I would like to believe that he's gonna have a really good game just because I like how aggressive he is. There are some things that are concerning that I've seen in terms of his technique that Miles Garrett might exploit, but we won't know until we see it.
So I think as long as he has good.
Feet, as long as he stays low and keeps his hands inside, then he's gonna be okay. There was a pass set in the Raiders game where he was going I can't remember the defense ends name number fifty one, MOOKI or Mooky something like that for the Raiders. Anyways, Tyler got his hands outside. It was really I think
it was a learning, learning situation for him. He got his hands outside and and he got his hands in there and he extended them, locked them out and then snatched them and just totally just bit moving like little boy to them right. And it's like Tyler guy is bigger than him. But I'm hoping that he saw that
on films, like, Okay, I can't do that. One of the things that Miles Garrett does a really good job of is getting underneath offensive linement and then just using his freaking massive legs to drive through their chest cavity and get to the quarterback. A lot of his stuff is really not amazing when you look at it on film.
He makes some amazing places, don't get me wrong, but when.
His base, like his basic rush to the quarterback is the most unappealing thing in the world, but it's so affected because of his leverage.
I'm glad you said that, because it's not the same as what you see from guys like TJ.
Watt and Michael Parsons.
And he's still a technician because he does not waste movement, but it's not flashy. It's more pure strength, pure length, and I mean athleticism around the outside. I think when it comes to Miles Garrett, he's probably the most effective but least flashy edge rusher.
At all of football. I could agree with it.
Because he's so he does not waste movement. If he's gonna punch you in a certain way, or if he's going to commit to a move, he's going to win.
Yeah.
Most of his sacks, hey at fourteen, right, most of his sacks literally come from him getting in a super wide. You came and called it a nine thirteen.
Yeah, it's literally twelve, and he's getting gatorad.
You know this week, this week's special edition, you guys will see that. We will do a film breakdown. But he gets so wide. You know, you're taught as an officeive tackle keep your shoulders remotely square to the line of scrimmage, right, But he gets so wide that if you're outside of me, where I literally could barely even see you, I naturally have to do what I have to. Now turn my head, and by turning my head, I'm now turning my chest and if you're rushing that way, now I'm turning.
My whole body towards the sideline.
Well, if I turn my completely, my entire torso towards the sideline, now oh, this dude can go underneath or he can go over the top. And if you're turned to the sideline and he's pressing into you, now you're literally backpedaling all the way to the quarterback. So he literally dips, puts his shoulder into you, and just drives into you like it's a sled.
And next thing you know, he's at the quarterback. You know.
And I love that you brought that up because to me, that actually works in the favor of Tyler Goyton. If they were lining up straight up and it was bull rushing and it was just hands versus hands, Miles is going to win those. And I'll go ahead and say Miles is gonna win some of these reps because he's freaking garn But I also will say, don't be surprised at how many reps Tyler got wins because of his footwork.
He has some things to learn with his hand technique and hand placement, but his footwork is elite and it transfers over from his days playing basketball. And I talked to him about this in the locker room yesterday, kind of an off the cuff conversation. I said, how are you using your basketball background to help you wall off guys like Michael Parsons in practice? Because there's a couple of times that Michael won off the snap, but then on that second.
Move can't get there.
You can't get there because guy in his feet were there. And I say that to say, well, his answer was, you know, he's used to blocking guys out right because
he was a post player. So it's all about footwork in the post, and that's what can work in his favor against a guy like Miles Garrett who likes to line up wide of the line of scrimmage, because then now on that island, it's not it's less about the bull rush and it's more about, like what you're saying, how quickly can you get turned and get your feet and then recover and get your feet.
Well, his feet are fantastic.
Yes, And if that's the case, then advantage slightly to in that capacity.
To Tyler Guiden, I'm ahead.
I was gonna say, I like that you brought up a hand placement because I think Isaiah we talked about this during the preseason where it's like he's gonna get called on that a lot early and often in the season, and he's gonna have to learn unlearn how.
To get referring to getting his hands from the outside to the inside.
Exactly, is zero gonna be a telltale sign? So you were talking about staying square to the line of scrimmage on for just anybody at home, when you're watching the TV copy and you're listening to Kevin Burkhark Tom Brady talk about this game, if you're seeing Tyler Guiden and the blue stripes on the shoulders turn, that's that's a good indication that Miles Garrett's doing what he.
Needs to do.
Yes, and he's going to do that. He's going to put a lot of stress on Tyler Guiden. That's the one way you can get that tackle out in space because he gets so wide. When he does decide to when he is rushing, Tyler Goiden will have no help. He will have It's literally, it's guided island that's going to bind himself. And the thing that sucks about it is, Okay, when Garrett decides to engage. He's literally engaging on one half of your body. Right, He's engaging all his weight
on one half of your body, So it matters. Imagine center mass all the way to your left shoulder. That's where a lot of the pressure is going to be. And Miles Garrett is driving into it. Now all of a sudden, you get used to it and you're like, okay, screw that, I'm not letting you get around me.
Now.
He can spin back what he likes to do. He'll spin back inside and who's there?
Nobody, nobody.
So that's the thing you have to respect.
It got all the perfect.
I like guiding in the run game a lot against Miles Garrett. I think I think him being aggressive Tyler guiding that is, he's aggressive, he's gritty, he's able to get down, he's powerful, he has a lot of strength. I like him in that sense. In the passing game, I'm interested and I'm curious to see exactly how it goes down, because Garrett has the size to overpower guiding, right, Guiden can do it just as well.
But that leverage, man, that leverage piece.
Is the real thing against six foot four, two seventy two. Yeah, I mean Yeah, I just feel like it doesn't if a reference mic.
Is two forty, Yeah, to forty times maybe a little bit, so he's like to forty. So even going to get somebody who's fast, quick, twitchy, and now you're about to go again somebody who's almost forty, probably forty pounds at the beginning of the season, you're gonna be heavier.
Mis Gart is probably coming in at two eighty.
He's such a freaking The wider he lines out, the better it is for Taylor game because of the footwork. Yeah, I think I think it works in the opposite. I think the closer that Miles is to like an actual a true five, that makes it slightly more difficult because then it's more of your hands need to be more perfect.
I think that Guiden has advantage the closer he is to the line of scrimmage, to the tackle box. And the reason why I say that is because guiding his advantage, his his the foundation is his strength.
Right.
It's just like Tyler Smith right when he first came in, staying about like I got you. If you stay in here, I'm gonna lock you up, right, And that's Guiden's thing out in space, it changes it. I'm not I'm not gonna say that Garrett's gonna beat him with speed. But again, if I get you turning and now I can get underneath you, now you have no help. Now I can push right and then and then other people have to win their matches.
Right, So I see what you're saying. It makes perfect sense. We're just looking at it into different for sure. I'm leaning more on the footwork in space, the wider that Miles goes out, and I see he's leaning more so on the strength as you're closer to the turbot box. So I don't I don't think there's a wrong We're just looking at it.
Is going to be interesting to see how Miles Garrett attacks it because he will go wide, but he will work his way inside too. And by the way I looked at it on his snapcounts from last year, Josh, you mentioned it, he does not switch sides a whole lot. He's coming off the right side five hundred and eighty snaps last year compared to the left side with.
One hundred and eleven, so very much so.
I mean, at five out of our almost six out of every seven snaps is right on that right side.
And that's going to be against Tyler Guiden. But also, I mean, I don't want to just make this a Tyler Guiden deal. The rest of his defensive line is freaking solid too, right, And Terrence Steele has to win his matchups and Tyror Cooper beeB.
Is gonna be tested. Yeah, because Zadarius Smith is a thing.
Yes, Yes, he's given us a lot of issues in the past, especially on the pack.
Smith is a thing now.
Good news being that, you know McCarthy for the most part, he has some insight on Zadarius Smith. He knows, he knows, he knows them a little bit, his tendencies and you know, things that he loves to do and in his uncomfortable spots, you know how to make him uncomfortable.
So I'm want to talk a little bit more about that, the linebackers, the secondary a little bit more when we come back on the other side of the break, because we're just getting started in this Cowboys off versus the Browns defense. And you know, when, like you said, if we weren't back already, we're definitely back.
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Dallas Cowboys offense versus Cleveland Browns defense. It's going to be one heck of a test, you know, a straight note chase. So you guys know, I keep it real. People don't necessarily like that. I put a lot of respect on other teams, but you better put some respect on other teams professionals.
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We got to bring back to I didn't even think about that. We got to bring that back to.
Sorry, one of the top offenses in the league versus one of the top defenses in the league, and it's going to be one heck of a showdown. Now you have to ask yourself, where does each team have the advantage. Well, let's go ahead and go to the coordinators first. Okay, Mike McCarthy obviously took this offense up a notch last year, and this offense led with the most touchdowns. This is team led with the most yardage.
But you look at.
Defensively, these guys have a lot of beasts. They have beasts upfront. Their defensive line is absolute dogs. So when you start talking about trying to get the Dallas Cowboys running game going so that you can stay in good down in distant situations, that's going to be a challenge.
That is going to be a challenge.
One of the things that they do a really good job of is stopping the run because they have the beef up front, they have Smell on the outside, they have jam Miles Garrett on the outside. They're able to really constrict those those holes. And then they always have linebackers. Now, they did lose some of their main linebackers from last year, but they quickly replaced those guys. They picked up Devin White, they picked up let me go with to my depth chart real quick.
They picked up Devin.
White, they picked up Jordan Hicks, okay, and then they as you say, Jay okay, Jeremiah Ousu.
Okay.
So their linebackers are Dallas has some solid linebackers. These dudes have some linebackers too. And we know the better the d line is, the better linebackers play. So Dallas is going to have to try to find a way to move this this defensive line backwards in the running game passing wise, though, I believe I make a bold statement right now.
I have been very what's the best way to say this, I don't know. I've been. I've been. I've been. I've been.
I've been pretty strict, right, I've been pretty persistent in my analysis of Dak Prescott and his ability to be able to decipher what he's seeing defensively. Yes, this would be arguably his greatest challenge. I'm gonna go say this would be his greatest challenge.
And I don't think you're too far off of that, because even if you look at what they did in terms of passing defense last.
Year, where did they rank in the league?
Number one?
They were number one. I mean, they were the top passing defense.
But a little different in here because they're not necessarily disguising their coverages.
Are Jim Schwartz he does. That's really the root of this. So they like man to man coverage. Okay, they were number one in the league in terms of man and man coverage. I think they played a sixty six percent of the time. However, they're that here's here's the pronocon.
Okay, so they.
Play a lot of man. Okay, Dallas is the best against man. Dak Prescott historically is the best against man. So you can win your matchups there as long as you can get time to get the ball off. So that's a good thing. They play man. That's really good against man. The issue that I have the issue that I that I foresee and I've always had with Dak, and specifically is that he struggles versus teams that have a lot of they show something and then they put the pre snap right, and then in the post snap
is something completely different. That's that's bothered him in the regular season, it's bothered him in the postseason. It's one of the one of the reasons why Dallas has struggled in the postseasons.
Dak struggles with that aspect of his game.
Jim Schwartz is probably the best that we've seen in guards to that he will be the best that we've seen. There are things that I was watching on film that I've never seen, and I've watched a lot of films. Third, if you get into a third and long ever ever, Jim Schwartz first down, he's number one of the league. The Cleveland Browns aren't playing mando man. They want to play man to man. They want to let their defensive
line go hunt. Okay, so they're gonna try to negate your ability to be able to run the ball.
Okay.
So if you can't run the ball against him, now all of a sudden, you're down the second and long Okay, Well, now they're gonna go play Manda Man, press you up, and they're gonna send their dogs, Miles Garrett and Smith. Is it Darry Smith, go out there and get you. If you find yourself in a third and long situation, they can literally do whatever the heck they want to. You guys, remember last year we broke down Howah dan
quinn will put Michael Parsons over the center. He will wide now put guys in five techniques, nine techniques, and now all of a sudden, the center is eyes.
Older with who Micah.
They do the same exact thing with Miles Garrett, the same exact thing. Have you ever seen a highlighted with Miles Garrett is literally dribbling the basketball between his legs. Yes, yes, that was that same look because he knew he was like, oh yeah, one on one with the sinner, let's go hit with the heavy and then on one side of the body, and yeah, exactly, it's not good.
Okay. What's one of the other things they do.
They will show cover zero Okay, cover zero typically, and this might be an indicator for DAK Typically cover zero is off in inside Okay defenders, you'll see the defensive backs, they'll play off in coverage and then they will sit in the inside shoulder. Because the one thing if you're doing an all out blitz cover zero is all out blitz. Okay,
man the man, no additional players. You can't give up the inside right if you're blitzing everybody up the middle and outside, the whole middle of the field is booty button neck it open, Okay, So you sit guys on the inside. They do it, but their guys are on the outside. So that's the one indicator I've been able to pick up. It's not a true zero even though it's a zero.
Look, all the guys walked up on the line of scrimmage.
All the other guys who are responsible for your skills players are now playing off, but they're outside from that cover zero. Look, now he could go cover you're just go all out blitz. He also likes to go into a cover two, never seeing it in my life. In my life cover two. He also goes from that cover zero looking goes cover three. He'll also zone blitz out
of it and drop a defensive end out. And one thing that Trey Lance, Trey Lance got got by this in the preseason right versus the Chargers, he got an interception thrown right to a defensive end. They do the same exact thing, except for they'll drop Miles Garrett out and coverage. So you're so worried about him rushing. You're so worried about all these guys walked into the line of scrimmage. You're like, okay, cool, I got to find
some way to get this ball off. And then all of a sudden they drop somebody out in coverage where you think that you're gonna have a vacated space. So I say all that to say, if Dak can get the time versus man and man, I think he's in a good situation.
They have two of the.
Best corners in the league in terms of abilities to be able to stop man and man though or you know, just to negate that they were number one in the league versus versus winning man, number one in the league when playing man to man. Both of their corners had the highest percent tele Let me see here. They had a sixty seven point four percent defense rate on third downs, highest in the league since twenty nineteen. Their cornerbacks. Let me find this stat. Let me find the stat. If
I can find it, you got sorry, I can't. Oh yeah, Browns defense is allowed the lowest completion percentage in single house coverage and fifty point nine. I can't find a stat right now, but their defensive backs have allowed the lowest percentage lowest completion rate when playing Manda Man. They're both of their corners, they're starting corners finished in the top five.
So kind of the unstuppable force meets the amovable object exactly exactly right. Dallas does a really good job versus band of man, and then their defensive.
Backs and Ward and h it was it ward In Emerson, right, Martin Emerson. Both of those guys do a great job versus versus guys in man and man coverage.
So it's one heck of a matchup.
At the end of the day, Dallas is going to have to block these guys up up front, and then Dak is going to have to have the most cerebral game of his life.
You mentioned something in that breakdown, fantastic breakdown, by the way, it's almost like you're an Emmy winning national analyst or something. You mentioned the unpredictability of Jim Schwartz and two things might be working in Dak's favorite going against Jim Schwartz. Number one, He's seen Jim Schwartz's defense on several occasions in the Philadelphia Eagles. But also now let's talk about Mike Zimmer. Right, we talk about Mike Zimmer and how he feigns a lot.
Of blitz this drops back.
He's very unpredictable with his defensive scheme and has been all throughout training camp. And guess who Dak Prescott has been going up against. He's been going up against Mike Zimmer. So to your point, Dak has struggled to this point in his career with pre snap versus deception. But for the first year of his career, he's been practicing against an og in defensive deception. So that might definitely work in his favor.
Yeah, that's one of the things we mentioned as soon as we got the training camp. Right, this is huge.
It might be more or advantageous for Dak this year that he has Mike Zimmer to go against you. But Zimmer and Schwartz' defense look completely different.
You also need to get the running game going you have because to.
Your point, you have it's not an option you have to avoid third along Houston.
That's what let's talk about that. On the other side of the break, I want to talk about the run game. I want to talk about where it's coming from. Is there a concern and who's your starter, because right now it looks like it's going to be a guy that you brought back in Ezekiel Elliott.
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Guys, I got a stat for you. It's kind of interesting, Ilex.
I just put it out on our Big Facts article that'll go out later in the weeks. Going into a matchup, I called it return of the Back.
With return of the bag, There you go, There you go.
With his first nap on Sunday is Ekul Elliott will become the second running back in NFL history, just for past ten thousand yards from scrimmage before leaving for another team and ultimately returning to his original team.
Okay, second one to ever do that.
He joins Amon Green, who spent seven seasons with the Packers from two thousand to two thousand and six before returning to Green Bay in two thousand and nine. Who was the head coach of the team that brought him back.
One, mister Mike McCarthy.
That is one, mister Mike McCarthy.
McCarthy, let's go.
So I was interested in this, and I mean, of course Amon Green by that point in his career. I mean we're talking about he started in two thousand. He was aged thirty two in two thousand and nine, so it's a little bit older, and he was a little bit further down the line after spending a couple of years in Houston.
Then Zeke is after one season in New England.
In that return season and it was his final season of his career, Ammon Green finished with forty one attempts for one hundred and sixty yards in one touchdown. So my question to you is a lot of the expectation around Zeke's return is that he will be the starting running back. He's listed as the starting running back on the official unofficial depth chart. Is he good enough to be your starting running back?
Oh?
That's I mean, that's part of it.
First, I have to attack it by saying there is no starting running back. Okay, I've said it right. Somebody has to take the first snap. Somebody's got to But I've been combating this in the Twitter sphere for you know, a few weeks now, and I'm glad Mike McCarthy speaking to the press yesterday, he cleared it up by basically saying, yeah, he approved a depth chart, but he reiterated that it's
going to be on a week to week basis. They're going to look at the A'm playing and which back can give them the best chance to win on a week to week basis. So there will be times where you know, Ezekiel Elliott will out touch Rico Daldo induce Von. There will be times where Rico Duda will out touch Zeke Hunter and uh and you know whomever else touches the ball ceedee lamb. But at the same time, I say, let it all play out. So everybody's staring at the
depth charge and the like, who's the starter? Who's the starter? The answer is yes, everybody's the starter. You know, who gets the first snap.
On a week to week basis. Okay, probably Zeke. Right.
Does that mean Zeke ends with more rushing yards and more rushing attempts that game than Rico or Douce, No, it doesn't mean that. So snap out of the traditional train of thought where you know you have to have one guy and then the other guys are the backups. That's not how it's working right now with the Cowboys. So, but to answer your question, Zeke is very capable. I'm working on the science lab. We are so back, first official science lab of the season that will drop yes, yes, yes,
but really quickly. Zeke thirty four point two percent success rate last year with the Patriots, Rico thirty seven point one success rate, Duce Vaughan seventeen point four success percent to sex rate. When you look at those, there's a reason this is a committee. Okay, you're going to need every one of these running backs to get the job done for you. But it also going to start with the offensive line. Ooh yeah, yes, absolutely.
I think overall the carries are going to go I think early and often they're going to lean in Zeke's papor. I think for the first half of the season at least. But something that Nick Eatman has brought up on storyline before is that he says that like, quite possibly the running back with the most carries, the most yards at the end of the season is not even on the team right now. Could be that's a possibility, And I've kind of hung onto that since the offseason when he was doing two hour episodes.
And I don't know, just a shot, fuck, just a random shot at nick Yatman. I love the man, but uh, there's that. I also think Deuce needs to be more involved.
And even a friend of the show, John ma showed have said, you know, at the end of the season that uh Rico Daddle's going to have more carries and more yards than anybody on the team.
So it's up in the air for me right now.
And I think for the coaching stuff as well, they're kind of just open to see how it goes when you give all three players the ball, and even Hunter.
I was going to say, don't forget about Hunter because last year he didn't get as many touches but had the high first of all. Sorry Jerry Madeline for given specific percentages, I should have rounded those up and down.
He's going to get on me for that. He touched you already, not not yet, but it's on the way. I'll get out round down for Hunter.
Hunter Lipkey had roughly an eighty three percent success rate when he was taking a handoff, so smaller sample size, but he also was the only player in that backfield for the Cowboys who had a zero percent stuff rate. He was never stuffed. So Hunter is going to get more chances. I mean he didn't drop it.
He did drop I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, but that was was rookie mistake.
He he paid his paid for his sins because he didn't get another touch two games the whole season.
The rest of the season, he did not get another touch after that.
He paid for.
That is the last touch Hunter lip he had to this point in time.
That's true, and he's got to live with that. Man paid for his sins. He did his time. Okay, free Hunter, hashtag free Hunter. The man dinis time.
I love it. I do the I know you guys love playing this game. I know it.
So I'm going to bring it back. Confidence level one to ten. What's your confidence level right now in the run game for the Cowboys offense?
Seven?
Really, that's higher than I would put I would put a four.
I'm confidence in it running him, I'm not confident at all.
I am because most people are putting too much attention on the running backs. It has nothing to do with the running backs. The best running back is gonna be a running back who doesn't fumble. I agree with that. I think Rico Dado finishes the year as a lead back, but it's just because he has the best come a nation of what they're trying to piece together. He has the best combination of power, he has the best combination of speed, and he can catch the ball. So he's
the best at That's what I'm saying. He's the best of what they're trying to create in terms of a committee, So I think eventually he'll get his respect this year, but it's going to be a committee until that point. And whoever doesn't turn the ball over is gonna be the best back for the Dallas Cowboys. This offensive line, the three interior linemen are going to be nasty. I repeats Kobe Bbe. Somebody punches him in the mouth and
he gets, he gets, he gets angry. Okay, he along case, he's he's he's a big body, he's he's Grimace to me in my mind, he's Grimace.
Right, He's just a.
Big wide body. Then you got you got all pros on each side. You got so you got you gotta.
Gotta wear purple in college.
Yeah, there you go. He's Grimmace, bro.
So you got the flying V from in the middle of your formation as a running him. And that's what you want. You don't want any gaps. I feel like the last year, the last few years, Tyler, to be honest to me, lacked the size, he lacked the strength.
I liked him. I liked his intensity. I liked his his his effort. I liked all those things.
I just don't think that he had the size necessary to move grown men from the NFC East or the big boys in the AFC off the line of scrimmage.
I think now you have that.
Now it's just a matter okay, when does Cooper b B get that dog in him who's gonna hit him in the mouth first, is gonna make him mad, It's gonna make him angry, and he turns into a little credible hope as soon as he gets a little bit of a little bit of confidence. Now you have a wave on the interior. Now you just pick aside. Hey, terror still can you hold it down on the edge?
All right? Tyler?
And we know he Tyler Goyton got some nasty to him, but he has to get his legs underneath them as well.
So once you have those three guys on the inside, you can run the ball.
I'm landing squarely on the seven as well. I got seven. You have an upgraded offensive line Cooper BB, Tyler guy in. But then don't forget about Zach Martin being there. Tyler Smith is pro Terrence still is still looks better than he has in past couple of seasons. Obviously last season was coming back from the twin ACL. He's moving exceptionally well. His confidence and that nee is there. He's ready to
play ball. So the offensive line, which was one of the reasons that the Cowboys struggled in running last year, it's been wildly upgraded.
So Ding, that's a win.
I think that by bringing Ezekiel Elliott back, you've reinvigorated the short yardage game.
Ding, that's a win. You have versatility. I love it. You have versatility with Deuce Vaughn and Hunter Lipkey.
Ding, that's a when you're entering this season with not only the number one offense, but this is a number one passing offense that is now in its second year Mike McCarthy's playbook. They're comfortable. Brandon Cooks is going to get off to a hotter start. Ceitde Lamb is going
to do what Cede Lamb does. Jake Ferguson is going to take a step forward towards the possible all Pro season because that passing attack is going to be that dangerous ding Indeed, because that passing attack is going to be that much more dangerous, going to be harder for teams to add another guy to the box to stop the run, which helps you run the ball. All things being considered, I'm a seven with this. I'm with Isaiah. I think this is going to be a more than solid rushing attack for the Colby.
I'm possible.
I don't want to I don't want to downplay anything at all, but at least just personally, my confidence levels out of four.
Nice. Okay, so you and I are on the same page. I think.
That's a Debbie down.
This whole thing shouts the gaining gates, but I think that the it's an inside Sorry, sorry, but it's I just don't see a lot of running backs on the team with enough juice, and I don't think they're going to let Deuce run the ball as often as I would like them too. I think Rico Daddle is going to have the most yards at the end of the season. However, I think Zeke is gonna have the mo the more of the touchdowns this year. He's gonna he's gonna get
in the ends up quite a bit hopefully. But yeah, just overall, I'm just I'm not excited to see the running game at this point.
Again. I think the offensive line is going.
To carry that and because Grimace is upfront, one of these running backs is going to become the Hamburglar.
Yeah, and just probably yeah, I agree with the short yardage game. I think it's I don't worry about the short yardage game anymore with Zeke being back in the fole, because that's still a part in an element of his game. You've got Hunter Lipkey that you can rely on in that element too. That does not get stuffed.
I mean, it's just part of it. I don't see the home run hitting ability.
I don't see And honestly, going back to the Draft Show and a lot of the film that I watched from Tyler Guyton and Cooper BB.
They were both better pass.
Blockers than they were run blockers.
And I love both guys.
I do, and I think they're going to be successful, But as rookies early on, I don't think I can push my chips into the center of the table and say these two guys are going to block up front for Cooper BB and or I mean for for Rico Daddle and Ezekiel Elliott, and both of those guys are going to combine for a thousand yards rushing this year. That's not happening. So I'm in I'm in a spot where yards per carry I think is going down.
I think I think.
The ability to receive out of the backfield is not there as much as it was last year. Short yardage situation, if it's third, short, second and short goal line, who cares. I think they'll be fine. This is a team that's gonna throw the ball around a lot because they are.
Really good to throw anyway.
You're right, I think, But I just don't have any confidence right now that can change. I mean, ask me three weeks from now, four weeks from now, and I might say, Okay, my four is now a six.
Okay, I've seen it a little bit.
Okay, well I don't have I also do love me some Cooper bb in uh in the run blocking. I mean he's better at pass blocking, but go and look at it.
He's faced the weakest part of the entire defense for the Dallas Cowboys all off season long.
Lookout to get tested.
He's gonna be tested all the way through those first five.
Weeks, says his demeanor as well as his skill set. Once he gets punched in them out a couple of times. You're about to those who don't know what Cooper on the field, I do second level one pancake level.
Also understand he's he's a serial kill. Understand this from the center position.
Majority of your blocks in the running game, are they ISOs or are they combos?
Combos combos? So when you're comboing, are you comboing with a regular player or all pro?
I agree, I'm right there with you.
No matter what direction he goes. He's combo blocking, which means two person, two people blocking one man with an all pro. So his primary is going to be hey, get over there. Take either Martin or Boom, get over there and take Tyler Smith. You got him cool. I'm going up to the linebackers.
How did that work out for Tyler Jimmy? How did that work for Tyler Biatish last year were he was the most criticized player on the entire.
I knew that was going to come up.
That's why I said Tyler biadas in my opinion, did not have the size. Tyler Biadage did not have the size or the strength. Now Cooper beebe as wide as he is going up to the next level. If lime, either linebackers have to run into the middle of his chest and get consumed like a like a black hole, or they have to run around his large body and now try to get around him to get back downhill. Because I foresee this being nice r on the interior
offensive line. And again in terms of their running yardage, all I need is give me four yards, give me four point two. I'll run four yards. If I get an average of four point two yards, I'm winning. That's three If I run three times in a row, is that first?
Now check? That's my check.
Give me four point two yards average and I am good. I don't need I mean, you're gonna have your explosives. Every team does, but.
I don't need that.
You don't need the home run.
I don't need the home runs that come from the backfield. I need consistency that makes you respect my running game. And now you change your defense to allow for the explosives on the outside. So I foresee the passes coming down, and I see the running game going up.
And I I understand that.
I understand because if you can do that three yards in a cloud of dust worked for a long time in this league. I need four exactly, you need four of it, and I don't know if they can get four. See thirty seven percent success rate? Yeah right, I mean that's not super exciting for me.
I will say that ric o' daldo was averaging full point one yards per carry behind a carousel of offensive lineman due to injury. So look at what the offensive line looks like right now. Let the rookies get punching them out a couple of times and then they'll, you know, they'll gonna eat this. And once they do that, then I don't agree with Kyle in that the yards per carry goes down. I don't see how that happens. And if that happens, then something's going wrong up front.
Just by the way, just in comparison Tyler Biattish and Cooper BB, according to their NFL combine measurements, Beaddish was taller, his arms were longer, his hands were bigger. The only thing that Cooper BB has over him is he was eight pounds heavier cool the two. That's the the comp between.
The Tace always measured my size of my hands when I was playing football as a quarterback, and try to say that I was gonna hurt me in terms of my ability to grip the ball still through.
You know what I'm saying, Like.
You know what you can't measure. You know, they don't have a ruler for demeanor. And and Cooper BB's demeanor is wildly different from taller Biadish. Now that's not to say Tyler Biadish was soft, because he wasn't. We've seen him get antsy practices and start skirmishes and things like that. Boebe doesn't start skirmishes because between the snaps, he's more of that quiet yep, right, he has the little smile.
That's why I call him a serial killer. As soon as that ball is snapped, he's killing this guy and then looking for the next guy to kill, and looking for the next guy to kill. It's different. So yeah, the measurements comparable, demeanor incomparable.
I don't put them in a same field.
I we got to get out of here before we leave.
I want to say, I hope you guys are right, because I want them to be able to rest off. Of course, I just don't know if I see it all right Tomorrow, Say it with your chest Friday. Bring the heat, bring the pressure. We are bringing it on Talking Cowboys all tonight. We have football tonight. You've got the first NFL matchup of the season.
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