Talkin' Cowboys: More Changes?

some talking Cowboys here on this Wednesday. Glad you're with us on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, because, boyd, we have a lot we've got to get to that happened over the past twenty four hours. And we're also going to previously Philadelphia offense going up against this Cowboys defense that because of what happened over the last twenty four hours, is probably going to bid be a little bit different

looking come Sunday. Isaiah stand back, our residence super Bowl champion, our Cowboys insider, mister Rob Phillips, and everybody's favorite mister Heck Maharrison. This sultry voice of heck Ma Harrison I'm Kyle Yeoman's glass, you're with us? And oh yeah, And now I just want to I want to preface this by saying, we kind of talked about this in terms of where do you start. Where do you start with personnel, do you start with coaching, do you start with the

front office? Where do you start addressing changes? Where do you start making changes in terms of the Cowboys in their makeup of a roster or a staff or whatever you want to talk about. And we all kind of set the players. We said that at this point, whenever there's a change of the coach staff and yet it gets worse, it ultimately probably goes on the talent of

the players. Will Rob. Yesterday they started to address that trading Everson Griffin to the Detroit Lions for a sixth round conditional pick, one that could potentially turn into a fifth round pick. But dissect this deal for me, Rob and tell us how it is a win for the Cowboys and also it's a little bit of a win for Everson Griffin. Yeah, they save I think three million bucks, you know, half his salary for this season or what he was going to make ultimately on the one year deal.

And look, you know if he was going to leave in free agency next year, you're trying to get a compensatory draft pick, so you kind of look at it that way. And on the other side of it, it's opening up snaps for younger guys, guys that you know, I don't know if they look at it and say, oh, we're gonna have a significant drop off. To be quite honest with you, they want to get Randy Gregory Moore snaps. I believe he had six against Washington in his season debut.

You've been on the table for Bradley and I Kyle number fifty six. Yes, I have in weeks and weeks, and he might definitely get more snaps now. Duran's Armstrong might get more snaps now as well, and we'll see how it goes. I think we've been talking for a while that you know, this didn't seem like a fit, even though I think when he got signed during training camp, I think the only thing missing on this show was balloons.

Many everybody was pretty excited about it. Yeah, but as we'll continue to get into you know, a lot of the moves they made on the defensive side of the ball have not worked out, and there may be more changes coming, and Rob made it. Rob makes a good point, though. The thing is is as a show, we say it with our chest quite a bit, and we're very excited, we're very passionate, and we're also opinionated, but we'll also say it with our chest with like we were wrong.

We we missed this one. We all missed it, and we weren't alone in that regard. I think a lot of cow Nation was rejoicing heck on that signing, but it just ultimately didn't pan out. Hey, man, I wrote a song you want to hit y. I was wrong. Man. I feel like one of those one of those promotional dummies they put the area and it's just like doing

like I cannot believe this season. I mean you talking about grand opening, grand closing for ever said Griffin that just didn't work out, and just seeing him on the field, it just seemed like the chemistry was never there. And just talking about the when he you know, came out talking about wanting to be in a three point stands versus the two point standing, all of those things were telltale signs that we were going in the wrong direction. And you know, um Champ, You've made a lot about culture.

You've made a lot about how you get this thing right right the ship h and it starts with getting rid of guys that are not effective. I think they have to do something. They had to do something because right now they're not They're not able to get the attention of the players. And this was just that kind of move, just to say, all right, put it. You know, I'm putting everybody on notice. And trust me, there are a lot of guys right now that are packing up

this stuff. Your buddy, we talked about this a lot, and absolutely right you guys, we are we are grown men on here. We'll tell you when we're wrong and when we at least when we believe it wrong, and when we are wrong. Um, and we I think we all nobody. I don't think anybody in the in the

country expected this to not go well. All right, Um, I think you know, by picking up Jerald McCoy, by picking up Griffin, by picking up Pole, you know, you thought you had some vets that we're gonna come out here and continue to do what they've done historically, and that just hasn't been the case. McCoy got hurt. Um. You know, Poe's been playing Pole Griffin. Uh just didn't

work seemingly. Um. And we alluded to you already alluded to you know him, you know, talking, you know, kind of leaking out some stuff, right we talking about the soda can right, that soda pop. You know, he leaked out a little stuff earlier on talking about you know, I put my hand in the ground. Oh really, Oh really, that's what you do. So he just seemedly didn't fit in, you know. But kudos and hats off to Jerry Jones. I know there's always a question mark as to who's

you know, who's calling the shots now? Is that Jerry? Is it Steven? Who's really doing it? Guess what? This was Jerry Jones letting you, letting everybody know, like you said, heck, everybody's on notice, right what what the boxer saying? He said it can man, everybody can get it right. Um. And and this is this is is a high alert. This lets the entire locker room know. Trust me, when something like this goes down, everybody in the locker room

goes ooh ooh, let me figure it out. So we may see some more moves and we may not see them some more moves until next week. This might have been a power move that that mister Jones made and then he's gonna wait and see are you guys gonna step it up this week? Or do I need to continue doing what I'm doing. And don't worry, we are going to get to the Tom Palaceero report here in just a little bit and maybe what that even means and things like that. But I want to stick with

that Verson Griffin for now. And Isaiah, I know you had really been on that early whenever you talked about it a couple of weeks ago. I mean, we especially me, I'll admit it. I dismissed it from the get go when you were talking about how Everson Griffin was saying, I'm a I'm a I'm not a two point stance guy, I want to put my hand in the ground and that kind of thing, just kind of going against the flow of what the scheme change and not buying into

what this defensive staff was selling. Is this really? Was that the domino the first one that started to fall that kind of led to this or was there other stuff, other smoke that kind of allowed this fire to happen. Oh No, there's definitely more smoke. I mean obviously we don't have b Car here, right. We talked about how we didn't have no solid information, but there were rumors, right, there are rumors that that b Car you know, made some statements in the locker room talking about how the

coaches don't know what the heck they're talking about. Guess what b Car all right now by by then, right, So they get rid of guys like that, right, if you're if you're not getting with the program, if you're going to listen to in this league, okay, because I've been let go, because I've I've quote unquote challenged the

rigam or I have my opinion. When you go against or youth or coaches feel as if you're threatening either their their authority or if you're challenging what it is that they're trying to get across to the rest of the players, they will get rid of you and all heartbeat. Right, So you either get with the program or you either just be quiet about it one of the two. Right,

You don't have to be you know they don't. I don't want to say this league likes yes man, but this league doesn't like guys who go who have who voiced their opinions right, And obviously Griffin putting that out there to the media was him voicing his opinion. And guess what that opinion was against what this coach is trying to do. It was against the direction that these

guys are going. And especially when you have veterans, right, guys who have been around, guys who have been successful in the past, and they voiced their opinion on what's being called. Guess what. That is a direct threat to these coaches authority and they can't have it and they won't have it in the locker room. So bye bye

b car, Bye bye Griffin. Who's next? And especially you know, when you're trying to change an entire scheme him on the fly, it's hard enough to try to get that done and get it accomplished, So you're right, Like, I think that becomes even more significant when there's trying to be so many schematic changes going on and you're trying to get everybody to buy in, whether it's working or not,

whether the message is getting through or not. Uh yeah, I guess you know, they feel like they got to have buy in, and I think Griffin, I think Griffin was playing hard. I didn't see lack of effort from him, I think not at all. Know he had two and a half sacks. I thought he played pretty good the last couple of weeks. But yeah, it wasn't what they thought. And you know, I think they probably maybe they feel pretty good about Gregory coming in and an I coming

in and seeing what they can do. I don't. I don't know if they view it like, oh, we're just gonna you know, I don't. I don't. I don't view this as a tank move. If that's what fans were wondering. No, the next year. I mean, if you're gonna get the same effort and you gotta get the same somewhat production out of out of Gregory and a nay anybody else who wants to step up, why are you going to

pay additional three million dollars for it? Yeah? Yeah, it's pretty pretty simple, right if he's not, if he's not gonna be a dominant force, I don't need to pay dominant force money. I mean, and when you look at it, that that's pretty simple. If I'm gonna have to deal with the lack of production from what I feel like, I'm the value that I'm getting right, the value proposition?

What am I getting for what I'm paying for if I don't feel like I'm getting my full value, and I'm gonna have to deal with somebody who's who has a veteran and who's very opinionated against with the regime of what we're trying to get accomplished. It's not worth the headache. It's not worth the headache, it's not worth my money. So guess what, I'm gonna cut bait. And that's what it was. Heck no, I mean they said

it all. I believe that that's that's the way. And you you got to you got to applaud the front office for not staying the course on this. You have to go in a different direction and getting these younger guys involved and having an evaluation on Bradley and I finding out where Randy Gregory is. I mean, we've heard the reports coming out of the Star that Randy Gregory

is is back and he's in good health. He's in good mental health, and so now it's time to unlease this guy to see exactly what he's going to be in the future for the Cowboys. And if and if Everson Griffin was in the way of that, then you have to do what you have to do. And like I said, kudos to them for not staying the course with Everson Griffin or any of the players that are

not being productive. Even if you're looking at this like, oh, they're trying to take or whatever, I think it's just a matter of saying, we can't stay with a guy that's not giving us the production that we're paying for. And heck, I think it's just the opposite, right I think. I know we've talked about yesterday about how this feels like this team just absolutely completely terrible and there's no momentum,

there's nothing positive going on. But to the point, and I know it sounds crazy, but it's true, they're still in it. They are still and there's still an opportunity to turn the season around. So if you are still trying to establish a culture, if you're still trying to get momentum going in a right direction, and you still have an opportunity to accomplish all your goals, if you set out aside from records, guess what you figure, you

try to get this thing back on the tracks. Because because you're still in the game, this is an annulment. They annulled the relationship. Now whenever it comes to the defensive line and having Randy Gregory and let Bradley and I kind of get those snaps. Now, I'm not super hopeful because one, Bradley and I didn't get those snaps

whenever Randy Gregory was it in the fold anyways. Two, Randy Gregory coming in, he only had six snaps last week, But I'm not too worried about that, just based off the fact that looking at his coaching staff and the way that they've handled players coming back either from injury or I guess now suspension, they've kind of eased him

back in. I mean, Laton vander esh saw thirty two snaps his first game back, and then he saw ninety seven percent of the snaps the other day against Washington, So he was back in the fold completely after one game of kind of getting that warm up, that tune up. So I think overall, you're going to see Randy Gregory a whole lot more. You're gonna see ninety four in the ball game, and hopefully that book ends what DeMarcus

Lawrence is doing on the other side of that defensive line. Now, we do have to get to this Tom palace Ero report because it's significant, especially since it's a couple of guys we've specifically talked about over the last couple of days. So pallas Ero on Twitter said the Cowboys haven't formed defensive tackle Dontari Poe in cornerback Darryl Worley, that they'll be released if Dallas can't trade them today, per sources. Big changes to continue for Dallas. So, of course this

is just reports. It's nothing that we've seen outside of just sources. So Tom is a great reporter, He's somebody that's absolutely a respected voice in this business. However, if we see this happen today, are you guys going to be surprised? Relieved? What's the feeling around it, Rob, whenever it comes to the reports that are happening and what

could potentially unfold here in the next twenty four hours. Well, if it is accurate, I'm sure the Cowboys love that report getting out there as if they're trying to get for players. Yeah, yeah, I you know, well, well we'll see what happens. I'll say this, I mean, I think when you look at just snap counts and you mentioned Griffin by the way, you know, if you want to be skeptical about or a little cynical about it. Gregory gets six snaps, Griffin gets a lot of snaps and

gets traded two days later. You know, you're trying to maybe you're trying to showcase him a little bit, uh, you know, in that situation, even though I think he probably played what he normally plays. But yeah, I think Gregory's gonna play more going forward. As far as Worley and Poe, Uh, look at the snap counts, man. You know, Worley gives up an eighty r touchdown to Christian Kirk, He's benched, he's played, he played two snaps last week. Wow.

Don Terry Poe his playing time has dropped consistently the last three games. It's the lowest snap counts he's had in the last three games. Justin Hamilton had more snaps at defensive tackle than he did last year. Whether they're here or whether they're not here, they're they're being phased out of the rotation basically. That's what we're seeing. Smaller doses for Poe, who started all seven games, but Worley wasn't a factor last week, So they're giving other guys opportunities,

whether they stay on the roster or not. They're based on production, they're making moves, they're on defense and putting new guys in there, young guys, guys that are unproven, but just to see something different and see if it works. That's that the writing isn't on the wall pretty much. When guys are starting to get phased out in their rotation of young guys, a sudden to come in. And we've been talking about that, just the competition factor for this d line to try and get a spark, and

that's why you see young guys like Hamilton. We started to see your young guy like Gallimore also get more time. I mean I believe he started. But in the instance of just going back to Evison Griffin, man, I don't think that there's ever been a captain this guy cut he was a captain last week. That's that's I think that was the weirdest part about it. But I don't

believe that anyone is surprised about Poe or Worley. I mean, Worley has been on I mean just call them the usual suspect though on a lot of these big plays and just miscommunications, uh in the backfield and dB room and then pointing this out to the guy in every week he's still giving up these big plays, so he's

it doesn't surprise me, doesn't shock me at all. But at the same time, Tom Policero didn't do us any favors by leaking it, because now no one's gonna be I don't think anyone would be willing to trade for either of those guys, so probably them being released out right. And again we don't know if these if these claims are valid at all, So let's just see and look. And you also, you're right, you don't know, um, but you know, as many injuries as there are around the leak,

you just never know. You never know what a t might need potentially. I mean the injuries. It's not just the Cowboys, it's not just the Eagles. There's a lot of team hurt right now, so you just you never know. Isaiah, I'm curious to hear from from your perspective as a former player, what are those days like whenever you hear a report like that. And of course Pella Sero is just doing his job and he's hearing what sources are telling him. But now now it gets back around to

the players, especially if it's true. Royally and Poe have already been told about this, So what is that day? Like, I mean, we talk about bubble guts. I couldn't even imagine. Well, from from my personal experience, I've never been traded. I've been released at the end of camps, but I've never been traded in the middle of a season or anything like that. But what I can tell you is what

happens in the NFL. And this has been going on for a very long time, and it seemingly has a change whenever there is something amiss, right whatever, there's something's about to go down, right, whether you're getting released or traded or whatever. I guess, well, your your reps kind of start just kind of just just just falling away, right, Your reps kind of just start disappearing. And as we're talking about these guys, reps getting cut back, and you know,

this is what's happening. And they always tell you I can tell you know, I've been cut before. They say, hey, oh you know, we're just we're getting the young guys some reps. You know, we just want to just want to get those guys exposed a little bit. It's it's always the same, it's always the same reason. Oh you know, we just want to get the young guys some reps, you know, and see what they look like on film. You know, you know, we know what you can do. You know, we only let let you, let you rest

a little bit. It's always the same. That's what they tell the players all the time. And what really is, what it really is happening is in the meeting room, they've already made their decision. Right and if Worthly, if if the if the if the statements are true, that Worthy and Poe have been put on notice and guess what, they won't be at practice today. They won't be at practice because you can't have you won't have two guys who are probably disgruntled. Now you won't allow them to

come back in the building. So um, the fact that that it seems like that statement has something, that that report has some merit, because if they've been informed that, then you you also heard the second part of that is that they will be released today if they can't get a trade. Why is that because we can't allow you to come back on this team into building because now there's gonna be issues. We don't want you to have those issues in the locker room. It's definitely an

interesting time around this Cowboys team. And I agree with Rob where I don't see the Everson Griffin move, nor either one of these moves that would potentially happen over the next couple of days to see it. I don't see it as a trade scenario or a tank scenario. Rather, I don't see it as tank moves overall. And we're gonna talk about that a little bit in the third segment because I've got a bold prediction whenever it comes to the Cowboys in their personnel changes in a positive manner.

I'm not gonna talk negatively about anybody. It's a positive thing. So I've got a bold prediction about it when we come back in the third segment. Well, however, after the break, we've got some matchups to preview. Whenever it comes to this Eagles offense in the Cowboys defense, we'll talk about it when we come back next Here, I'm talking Cowboys since eighteen sixty fives, Debts and Hats are American maid with pride right here in Texas, and Stetson is proud

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I wrote this in Big Picture yesterday. But usually whenever there's a battle for first place between the Eagles and the Cowboys, it's a primetime matchup, and it's still going to be in primetime, but it's it's a matchup that everybody has to tune into because it's the rivalry, there's the pedigree, there's the history between these two teams. But this time there's a combined four wins between the two

teams before before they meet on Sunday. But heckmo, whenever you look at this, yeah, we're in week eight exactly. We've had seven games and there's combined or fourteen games I guess between the two and they've combined for four wins. So heck, whenever you look at this this offense for Philadelphia, Carson wins and then it's a bunch of injuries. If we're being honest all the way through. What scares you the most whenever it comes to the Eagles on the

other side of the line of scrimmage. Yeah, obviously what scares me is their running game because we hadn't been able to stop anybody. And even with the injuries that they have, it's they mirror us as far as the injuries that they've had to their offensive line, and so they're playing with a bunch of backups. But you know, this is a robbery game, So throw all the records out because it's it's Philadelphia in Dallas, right And I'm

still I'm still ticked off about what happened last year. Man, we had an opportunity to win the division, had everything to play for, and we lost that game. So I had This is a game that I definitely had circle. But coach Peterson is going to have his offense ready to go. They deal with a bunch of formations that I believe that's gonna give our defense some problems. You guys talked about it as film study, and Isaiah eloquently laid it out, you know, just the way that they

spread teams out. Carson Wentz is a twenty twenty version of himself right now, and it's just it's not good. He's uh has ten turnovers so far, and I think that is the one thing that's costing h this team. But he still has the moxie to bring these guys back, as you saw last week against the Giants. But as far as a matchup, it's Richard Rogers the tight end. I mean, even though Ernst and Goddard are hurt, they still have a tight end that could give us problems.

And so there's a lot of that's the guys Greg ward Um and fold them the other receiver, those possession guys, but they still have the ability to stretch the field. So for me, I just want to see where the Cowboys are going to apply that pressure because on that offensive line, like I said, they have a bunch of guys that are hurt so collapsed in the pocket and hopefully getting getting turnovers from wins is going to be

the key to this game. Uh, yep, I agree. Heck, and if you guys haven't seen the film room with myself and Kyle. You guys need to gonna check that out so you guys understand what heck is talking something. Go to the website. M But you know these guys, the running game is nice. Um, they do something, they do some odd stuff. Many they do some stuff. I haven't even seen it. I've been around for a while.

Um that deserves a play. Yesterday that we showed whether they pulled the left and the left guard and just gash, just gashed Baltimore. It's just it's crazy the type of stuff they're doing. But they want to spread you out the area that we've had issues and the thing that we put on film in week one against LA, which was misdirection, right, you maybe of LA came out and they were running bootlegs and nakeds left and right. And our linebackers are super aggressive, right, We know our linebackers

are super aggressive. They want to play downhill, they want to come hit you. And now teams are running misdirection, running motions across the formation, running slide routes with running backs come out underneath the line of scrimmage and are now Jalen and those guys who are looking now, they're second guessing themselves. They know that they're aggressive, they're cognizant of that, and now all of a sudden they're seeing motion. Now they're like, I can't do what I really want

to do, and it's messing them up. Man, they're getting all kinds of confused. And this team is gonna be no different. They're gonna run misdirection, they're gonna spread you out. They're gonna try to get our defense to go across the whole fifty three and a half yards of this field, and they're gonna try to run right up the middle of this of this defense where we've had issues all year long. Man, Heck that game last year in Philly, that seems like a lifetime ago. He had Dak Prescott,

we had fans in the stands twenty twenty. Man, you guys are you guys are right on? Like the matchup that concerns me is Boston Scott for them US. He's five five five six running back and Miles Sanders has been really productive when he's been in there, but he's injured and I don't think he's gonna make it back this week. We'll see. I think he's a getting six

yards per carry before he got hurt. But Boston Scott, you talked Isaiah about exactly what has been their problem is stretching you vertically and side to side where they've got to move latterly and in space. And you watch Boston Scott when he's had opportunities for them last year and then last week against the Giants in the passing game out wide, out of the backfield. He kind of has some sprolls to his game where he can do a lot, yes, a lot of different things for you.

And he's tough talk, he's tough to diagnose, and he's tough to bring down. And with the Cowboys speed that we've seen defensively against a guy like Scott, I think that's gonna be a matchup issue. They've got to be ready for him and WinCE. It's not been a good year for him statistically, but I've been so impressed the last two games I've watched of him just battling out

there with no offensive line. His top two tight ends hurt, that all of his receivers hurt except for some of the backups they've had in there, and he keeps grinding it out and fighting and trying to find a way buying time with his feet. They've got account for that, you know. It's it's definitely not pretty with Wentz, but he's finding a way to get it done for them, or at least keep them competitive. Hey, Rob, Hey, and don't don't be surprised if you see a heavy dose

of Jalen Hurts. Don't be surprised because this is they utilize him a lot against Baltimore, and we have a defense very similar to Baltimore and a lot less talented obviously, so um, Jalen Hurts has come in and he's been very effective. Man, So have your I have your intent

as up for him. I think you'll also look at Carson Wentz in a different light at the end of this season than maybe you had previously, because previously, the whole stick around around Wins was the fact that he couldn't stay healthy one and two, he wasn't necessarily a clutch quarterback. But I think this year he's kind of turned that narrative around because, like Rob said, he doesn't

really have a whole lot around him. It's a very similar situation that the Cowboys are dealing with and WinCE in the final two drives of that game on Thursday Night football win five of seven for one hundred and twenty one yards and two touchdowns in order to go back to back seventy plus yard drives to win that football game. But they are two four and one. It's true. It's true, two four one. They suck. They are horrible also, all right, So it's just I have a hard time

you poking up the egg. You put some respect on the division leaders. Okay, I can't. I'm incapable. I'm incapable. I don't think we're I don't think we're hyping up the Eagles. I think we're noting what. I'm sorry, guys,

it just I just I just felt. I just felt that, you know, the hike machine was starting to ramp up a little bit, but the Eagles and not just I wouldn't have However, Yes, it's still going to be a tough matchup for this defense, which I guess if you throw the Alan Eagles out there, it might be a tough matchup for this defense. Right now, the Wakeland Wolverines,

Frisco Lone Star Rangers. Now, with that being said, you look outside, and I mean I've been really impressed with what the Eagles have shown in terms of depth at wide receiver because you don't have alshon Jeffrey he's been out for a good amount of time. Of course John high Tower has been a draft pick, but really they also had de Sean Jackson who's on IR. They've had Jalen Rager who's on IR, and then Marquis Goodwin, who

was their big addition this offseason. Of course opted out before the season and even got underway, but greg Ward has really stepped up for them. Travis fulgam is absolutely stepped up. He's played fantastic. I'm interested to see what you guys think about the wide receiving corp as a hole in one kind receiver. He is a huge receiver.

And then also not to mention what they go up against matchup wise with the secondary and how treyvon Diggs and potentially Cheetah Alusier would match up against these guys, and I think they match up well, guys, and especially for Treyvon Diggs, who look man, he has had the full gamut of every I mean just start from week one all the way through. He's had a guy in front of him that is capable of making those making big plays and stretching the field. He just has to

say assignment sound. He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar last week on that bomb, and I'm sure he's gone over the tape and doesn't like that. But at the same time, Folgum from Old Dominion is a dude that will stretch the film the field on you. And Grant Ward is a Texas kid. He just happens to play for the wrong team. He's also a great possession receiver. They do a lot of good things as a duo. They work really well together. But they got

a lot of other guys as well. I mean Corey Klement, they're running back. He does a lot in the passing game. Um and and as Isaiah and Robert said, Man Scott Man, he's going to be a problem for us out in the flat and we've been susceptible in those areas, so look for Peterson to definitely try and expose us there. Yeah, as we look at when we talk about personnel, Kyle,

personnel wise, I think we match up just fine. But it comes down to the scheme and our and our as we've seen on film, we like to run a lot of cover four and the reason why our flats have been the issues because in cover four you have four guys that are now going deep into the coverage, and you have three guys that you expect to cover fifty three and a half yards. So flat routs are

going to be open all day long. And if you decide to try to have that that corner, try to squat on that right in terms of like a cover two type type setting, Well, now you have a hole behind him, right, So we have to figure out we have to figure out what we want to do scheme wise. Um, but personnel wise, I think we're fine. Um, but Mike Nolan, what are you gonna do this week? Right? What would you do scheme wise? What would you do in order to switch that up from a Cover four into whatever

you're gonna do this week against Philly? Oh, I'm playing I'm playing press man or I'm playing three all day long. I'm going to single high safety. I'm not allowing a team to run the ball on us. Um, you know, we've had guys beat us, but these guys are not the guys that Diggs, Diggs and company has faced this year. Um, they're not. I mean, you still respect them because they're in the league. You still respect them because they you know,

they they're starters right now. But these aren't their main guys. These aren't there guys that they're expecting to beat you every single play in play out. Um, So I like our percentages in that regard. What I don't like our percentages on is our defensive line, right and I think even with going they're gonna go these guys go four wide to one side. I mean, these guys, they're gonna do some crazy stuff and they'll put four figures on one side and one on the other side and empty

you out. Oh and by the way, Jalen Hurts it is one of the receivers, or he's at quarterback and hurt and Wins is one of the receivers. So I mean they're gonna they're gonna try to do some things to you. So why not just match up and just and challenge your defense, challenge your secondary to say, hey, we're gonna put you guys into position all week long. We're gonna practice, we're gonna practice this, and our challenge to you is can you stick these guys man to man?

When you when you call out a competitor, a true competitor, and you let him know the week in advance that hey, this is gonna rest on your shoulders. We're not gonna go zone defense. We're playing man all game long. It rests on you guys will step up, because nobody wants to be embarrassed. Man. If these guys are true competitors, which I believe most of them are, and hopefully get Cheeto back this week and hopefully that helps you. It's just a little better end, you know, to go back

there and try to cover these guys. Sean Lee also, I like that. I like that, Isaiah. Now I like that, Isaiah. I like the fact that you know press, man, cover three, all of those things. You want to give your guys an opportunity to make plays. Put a hat on the hat I call a cat coverage, and the these guys can play that coverage on the set of receivers. What I want to see from this defense is when you get punched in the mouth, what do you do right

this open and drive? Because that's what's been the mo of this team. If something bad happens, the whole thing goes downhill. There's gonna be some adversity in this game. How are these guys gonna step up in that because you know that you are going to have to make a play defensively, especially if you have a rookie quarterback. Yeah, I get off the field. I think part to your point,

I think a lot of what's happened. You know, it can be demoralizing when they when you get run on early and often and you're on the field a lot, and I think it has it has a snowball effect as the game goes on. I think that's what's happened too. They to Isaiah's point, upfront, they've just got to be more stout. I know the kind of the personnel is what it is. But if they don't stop the run, um, they're gonna struggle against every team they play the rest

of the way. To me, that's been the the biggest problem they've had. That's what Jerry Jones talked about yesterday and what he said whenever he came to Hey, personnel changes are going to be coming because we have to

stop the run. And maybe that's what that is. Maybe it's just getting guys in there like Bradley and I or Randy Gregory or Justin Hamilton or a Neville Gallimore who want to play and who want to have those kinds of snaps, Well, they're gonna have a chance against a running game like the Philadelphia Eagles with also a banged up offensive line on the other side of the

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Cowboys here on this Wednesday. Glad you're with us, and of course join us for breakfast tomorrow each and every day, but especially tomorrow nine fifteen because of Mike McCarthy pushing our pushing our show up. But we'll have some fun tomorrow out in the cold. Oh wait, wasn't supposed to say that, but I'm gonna say it anyways, all right, Isaiah, stand back, het My Harrison, Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeomans, and Isaiah. I'm curious because we were just talking about

Greg Ward, who's a quarterback turned wide receiver. Do you guys have a group text of quarterbacks turned wide receivers when they get into the NFL? Do you guys like have any kind of talking back and forth? Is there any any connection there between y'all two not on a group text on me? And it is just four three forty club. That's it. It's four threason under. That's it, for threason under. Okay, okay, that was a subtle flex.

You didn't even want to talk about our groups at the same time and not at all like that's not us headman three. Sorry, you guys are in training. You guys are in training, absolutely not. I mentioned this a little bit earlier whenever he comes to the personnel changes in some of the roster moves that we've seen over the last twenty four hours, and of course the Cowboys

trading Everson Griffin. The report comes out about maybe Don Tari Poe or Daryl Worley would be on the move as of today, and how we don't really see that as a tank scenario. We don't see it as tanking moves. Well, I've got a bold prediction for you guys. We've only got like five minutes to address it. However, I think that the Cowboys are not done making moves like that of unloading talent. But I also don't think they're in terms of bringing someone in. I think they might be

trying to look for a defensive tackle. I'm not saying that off of anything that I've heard. It's just a gut feeling that we're I'm saying it with my chest. Do you think that's a possibility to maybe go out and get a little interior line play or maybe try and find somebody out there that's available via trade without giving up too much. Nobody wants to touch that one. Yeah, I said, I think there's always a possibility. Right, Um,

the situation seemingly fits. But I think that I think this this front office is done with the veteran projects right for this year at least, I think they've they swung. They swung hard, right, They swung with three three of them on the defensive line. Three miss so three misses right, which we thought were just you know, sure shots. You thought it was just all day long, but they weren't that.

So I think now they're just gonna rest in there, and they're young guys, and they're gonna allow their they're young guys to kind of you know, spread their wings a little bit. I think if they do bring in another veteran at any position, I think it has to be on the back end, And I think it has to be a position, you know, it has to be a safety position that you just can't you just can't miss it. Safety or splash, you know. I think I'm

talking about at both. Well, there's there's some corners out there too, right, There's some corners out there too, so, um, you know, there's there's just some sure guys out there that you don't really have to question whether or not they're gonna be successful. And I think if you are going to make a move like that, those are the type of guys you gonna grab. Hey. Rob said something

yesterday about you know, the salary cap. But whatever we do, it's going to have to be a salary cap friendly deal because of some looming contracts that will have next year. So I think, uh, you know, Isaiah, You're definitely right. Uh, they may be done at this point, but we still have to keep in mind, man, we are tied for first place and the yeah time for there's a three way tie for first place. But the trade deadline is

next week, guys. But we still the trade line Tuesday, Yes, Tuesday, Okay, So that's that's a lot of things that can happen in between now and then. So Rob, what do you think you may You may be right, Kyle, you know, Uh, Jerry was asked what last Friday, would they be more in tune to, you know, make a move to bring in as the unload and and he said probably to bring in but we'll see. That was before the Washington game. I don't, you know, I don't know. I just I don't.

I have a hard time seeing them give up high draft picks before the deadline. You know. Yeah, they, like Isaiah said, they might make a move. They might bring in somebody to help on the back end or defensive line. I think we've all kind of cited those is are

the two biggest needs. But uh, you know, maybe maybe there's a maybe there's a somewhat minor move out there where they can get some help and because ultimately they're not out of it, you know, and and they're going to try to continue to compete as Mike McCarthy tries to build this culture that we're talking about, build this program. So there might be an opportunity out there, but I don't I wouldn't foresee a Marii Cooper type blockbuster trade

coming up. I just I'd have a hard time seeing that. I think I think if something does happen, it comes from an organization that has that's known for hard work and diligence in a strong culture. I don't think it comes from you know. I think I know, like like Dune laps out there, I don't think you go get done that from Cincinnati. You know when you talk about

guys like Gilmore, you know about making big splashes. Well there's somebody you can get from New England because you know what they're coming from, right, and you don't have to try to teach them to play hard. You'd have to try to teach them to work hard, like they are coming from that already. So you could adopt that and try to have that enforcement all your team. Yeah, And I mean the Jets are in that conversation for a certain player over there. I mean, you're not in

that kind of that was the opposite. That was the opposite of what I say it. That's what I meant, Like the Jets are in the opposite of that conversation. Yeah, so I don't disagree. I think you get the playing time for the guys who are here and the guys who you want to develop. And I mean, once again, Bradley and I, I just want to see more snaps. That's all I got, And maybe we get it this week. Maybe I finally get to see fifty six active and

rolling on that that off of that edge. I hope that that's or I hope that comes to fruition this week. But that's gonna do it here for Talking Cowboys. We'll be back tomorrow. Like I said, come get breakfast with us at nine fifteen. But for now, Isaiah stand back for Rob Phillips, for heck My Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the Star in Frisco Special. Thanks to Chris Beam in the back as well. Can't forget him.

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