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Dallas got back into the win column in a big way with a 40-3 win over the Minnesota Vikings. What was the key to victory and where does this stack up among McCarthy’s wins?

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The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys, straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the Star in Frisco, blowing to the goal line, Sat and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, Patrick Walker and Kyle Yeoman's Dallas how Boys. It is a victory Monday here on Talking Cowboys from the s WBC studios at the Star in Frisco, of course, brought to you by Black

Rifle Coffee Company. And my goodness, we've got our Black Rifle coffee poured in the cups. We're ready to go because we've got a forty burger to talk about for the second time in the twenty twenty two season. Welcome into Talking Cowboys, everybody alongside Isaiah stand Back, Patrick No Sleep Walker here on this Monday morning. I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us. Forty to three, oh yeah, forty

to three, oh yeah. The Dallas Cowboys takedown the eight and one now eight and two, oh yeah, Minnesota Vikings on the road, the largest margin of victory in Dallas Cowboys road franchise history. I love it when you talk dirty to Miko, whoa, I love it when you talk it was I say it was dancing this entire open and talk football dirty to me. Colet not gonna run run it forty to three, run it, talk about run it. They ran it up. Oh yeah, ran it all over. Yeah.

The Minnesota Vikings up, down and all the round. One of the most dominant road wins you'll ever see in the National Football League, and I mean, quite honestly, at least statistically, the most dominant road victory and Cowboys franchise history. Pretty unbelievable what they were able to do against Minnesota on the road. Isaiah that it was Kyle and I was doing my Kirk Cousins dance because unfortunately he didn't get a chance to do it. So you like that, Yeah, So I try to make sure I can get it

in for you. Um No, those guys got torch man. I think we mentioned on the postgame show that this felt personal, at least from the defensive perspective as well as I think Kelly Moore took took it personal as well to come out here and ensure that he called one of the best games I believe he's ever he's

ever had in his life. I also think that that I probably listened to the pregame show and heard me challenge him in his accuracy, because he was on point in terms of delivering the ball where it needed to be for guys to be able to do something with it post catch, and I think that this was the best showing I've seen in a very long time from him in that regard, and because of that, he allowed some of his guys to be able to make plays

after receiving the ball. So kudos offense and the defense. Obviously, Dan Quinn came and showed out and Dallas was able to get ahead. And we've all talked about it extensively in the past. There's only about one team that I'm actually that I think can actually hang with Dallas even while they were playing from behind, and this was not one of them. Dallas was able to pin their ears back and use all three ways of their defensive front to get after Kirk Cousins and made it very, very

tough on him in the breast of them. Vikings. You know, one of us predicted a blowout, you did, and I admittedly didn't know that it would be like this. Yeah, I don't think anybody would have ever, even in their right mind, said oh, Dallas is gonna win thirty seven. Yeah no, no, oh yeah. So no, I didn't predict that because, like you said, no one could have seen

this come out. But I did predict the blowout. And the reason I predicted the blowout, as explained on set with the chest frout, it was just my gut feeling based upon what I was seeing in the locker room from these guys and hearing from the coaches, like, man, they were pissed, and they were not just the normal version of pissed when you lose a game. It was the fashion in which they lost to Green Bay. It

was the fact they lost to green Bay. It was the fact they lost in green Bay and couldn't get that win for Mike McCarthy, and it just all boiled over and they got tired of hearing about them being the villain. They were the hero at one point in this season, and then all of a sudden, they're the villain. They were like, oh no, this can't be, this can't be.

So I felt that they were gonna go out, they were gonna stop the run, and Dalvin Cook had some success early and then the Vikings got away from it and they paid for it mightily. Michael Parsons on the first drop back for Kirk Cousin, sack fumbled, recovered by Durance armstro and that set the tone for the defense offense. What do you do your first offensive drive? Ezekiel Elliott, Ezekiel Elliott, Ezekiel Elliott. By the way, here's another play

for Ezekiel Elliott. Just punching them, punching them in the mouth and also at the same time getting their timing set up for Tony Pollard later in the game to blow right past those linebackers who had their time he set up for Zeke, which is something that Skip Pete running backs coach had talked about. So uh and then special teams Bret Matter, my god, my god, right, you

want a sixty yard Okay, here's one. Oh okay, Well, you're gonna try to ice me with this Bush League Review of the League, try to ice them fair, but you can't. New York came in and said, hold up, you know what you can't. You can't ice sub zero. But the Giants had lost by that time, right, yeah, York was like gonna keep it close. Bush League but you can't ice sub zero. So what does Brett Maher do. He goes back out there and the next sixty yard look better than the It's just a practice repisode we

out here. So the Cowboys just dominance in all three phases of the game. You'd love to see it. They did it on the ground, they did it in the air, they did it with the boot, they did it on you know, on defense, they did it with takeaways. They did seven sex forty three. Give it to me. One of the big conversations around this Cowboys team is not being able to win the big game, be able to win against really good teams, those elite level teams, even last year. I mean, you go back to the five

losses that Dallas had last year. The majority of those came against teams that were probably favored, if not better than you going into that game. You lost the games you were supposed to lose, and you won the games you're supposed to win. Maybe outside of the Broncos game last year. This was a big win in that regard because it wasn't just a win, it was the way they imposed their will over a team with one loss.

By the way, the other loss for the Minnesota vikings Philadela earlier in the year in a similar fashion, except Philadelphia won that game twenty four to three. They didn't get anywhere close to the forty to three that Dallas did yesterday to poverty. So that's that's my biggest point here is you talked about all three phases, offense, defense, special teams, a complete victory, but Isaiah, was this the most complete victory that we've seen in the Mike mccarthierra,

I think it is just for context. Yeah, you know, I have a short memory, so I can't do You want me to get you some some other ones? Yeah, it gave me some other ones. I mean in terms of this season, absolutely, absolutely this season. I think everything just came to a hit in this particular game. All Right, we'll go backwards. Fifty one, twenty six over Philadelphia at

the end of last year. That was a playoff team, not this level of team, right Minnesota last year twenty to sixteen, that was with Cooper Rush Patriots in overtime thirty five twenty nine. Last year. I would argue last year as Minnesota was more more yeah than forty to three, because one, because you're playing I mean, yeah, that's the only thing. Yeah right, yeah, uh and then I'm not even gonna throw a twenty twenty one in there, because

twenty twenty was a while. I don't know. Oh yeah, I just speak to this this year, this one for sure. This year. I just think that, you know, every every phase of the game stepped up. I mean not only were they dominated, but they stepped up. They were all challenged every single faceted this game. They were challenged coming into the game, and they responded. And that's what you like to see. You want to see your guys respond. You want to see the run defense step up. They

stepped up. Guys were getting hitting their seams, you know, hitting their gaps and then getting vertical, creating some havoc in the backfield. And because of that they were able to get their second level guys. They started making plays, so that helped out. You started looking at the tackling. The tackling was better, seemingly, um coverage wise. I was worried honestly when the game started, because these guys were playing man to man seemingly every freaking rep and they

shut him down. They shut them down. They were playing man to man and they shut him down. With all these webs that they had so that the secondary stepped up. I mean, then we know what'll happened. Offensively, Kellemore was in his bag. He caught a heck of a game. He didn't do anything outside of himself. He didn't do anything crazy. There wasn't any balls that were just thrown

up there for grabs. Everything was precise and efficient. And then you had Dak Prescott dropping in on him and giving guys opportunity, and TP of course did what TP did. And this was and this isn't recency bias. I've been sitting here thinking about it this whole time, trying to figure out what game would have been more complete than this in the McCarthy area era in Dallas, and I

don't have one. The only one real quickly that they beat a team like this under Mike McCarthy was the forty three to three win at home against the Falcons last year in Week ten. That was forty three to three. That was a bad Falcons team. It was that at home is not the same. This is not the same.

This is contextually. You take everything and put it in a pot, and it shows you that this game is the most complete from an emotional and mental standpoint to lose in the fast and in which you did in Green Bay, and to have the resiliency and bounce back the way you did in the following game that goes into play here, and to do it on the road

in hostile territory at US Bank Stadium. And I'm telling you I was there, and they have an open press box from the from the intro video until Zeke scored on the first offensive drive or not the first offensive dripping score its skull. I mean, you could feel the vibrations in the air, like seriously, they were hype. But by the time it got to have time, there were no Vikings fans standing up. There were chances of let's

go Cowboys in US Bank Stadium. The Cowboys went up there and broke the spirit of the Vikings as a team and as a fan base and didn't take their foot off of the gas either in either phase of the game. They didn't take their foot off of the gas. When it was thirty to three they could have let up, they were like, Nope, We're going to keep on going right on to forty. This was the most complete game, four hundred and fifty eight total yards of net offense

time of possession over thirty seven minutes. Dak Prescott twenty two of twenty five or two hundred and seventy six and two, and it could have been twenty three or twenty five with more yardagean three touchdowns if Scholtz was able to reel in that one hander in the end zone, which was another dot from Dak. The efficiency, the prolific nature of this offense. My biggest takeaway is this Cowboys, this version of the Cowboys team is the best team in the NFC. The one that played, the one that

played yesterday is the best team in the NFC. I don't think heariod. I don't think you could disagree with that. But that goes back to what I was saying about that team in Philadelphia with you know, a few weeks ago. Everybody's kind of holding them up and hoisting them. Oh my god, there, you know, no, and I say they were going to stumble. It was gonna happen starting in November,

and they already stumbled. The Coats fumbled the bag. But I think the final play that allowed Jalen Hurts to scoring that QB sneak if Shaquille Leonard is there that doesn't happen, So that goes to personnel as well. But what I've seen in the Eagles over the past two weeks, even though they eked it out against the Coats, is they're such a beatable team. They are beatable, but they're nine in one. So I feel like there as much as you can say, oh my gosh, they almost blew

that game, there's still nine and one. You gotta respect the Eagles. I respect the Rise. There are two games they had at you still the Eagles. If the Eagles at their best play and I'm going to say this with man Chess right now on Monday, if the Eagles at their best play the Cowboys at their best, which is the version we saw yesterday, Eagles can't hang with this. They just they can't. I don't know that there's an

NFC team that can. There are only two AFC teams that can Kansas City and Buffalo this variation of the Cowboys. If they keep this going, putting this on film, there is no team in the NFC that can see them. The only teams that can see them are the two atop the AFC. Yeah, we had this conversation yet esterday in the studio, Isaiah, do we want to go into this here? Do you want to it is Monday. We

could say it with our chest. So the conversation was, if Dallas plays like that like they did yesterday, nobody's gonna be able to beat him. That was my point. And so there's no way that a team can beat the Cowboys. If the Dallas Cowboys play like they did yesterday, they could beat anybody in the NFL and they could get there. However, that's the biggest question mark is can the consistency continue? Can you do that weekend and week out?

You haven't shown it. That's why this is such an outlier to this point in the season because it doesn't happen very often. It's a good book, by the way, which one outlier? Oh yeah, what about the outsiders? Ever seen that one? Never read that? One's a good one. Uh yeah, it's an outlier. It's something that's a little bit different. But if you could play like you did yesterday, there's a chance you do everything. Jerry Jones said it afterwards.

He said it with his chest. He said, if I believe this team has what it takes to win a Super Bowl, you have the talent, can you put put it together week by week by week. Isaiah, that's the biggest question. That is the question, and that's an answer that we will get starting this Thursday. Yeah. Quick turnaround, good team turnaround, very quick turn around, vision revel. Yeah, looking to bounce back themselves. It is it possible that a win like this could be a bad thing in

a short week? No? Why is that? There's no bad thing about about wins as long as you put them in a river mirror. Okay, go out there and see what you watch the film today, See what you did well, see what you did bad, and then you should be watching nothing but New York Giants film. Yeah, that's just it, basically what Dak Prescott said yesterday when I asked him about what was the statement that was sent with that

win on yesterday? He said, be better tomorrow. They're already focused on the next day, which is today, and they know that they have a short week, and they know the Giants got you know, thumped by the Detroit Lions, and they're going to try to come into Arlington and make a statement of their own against the boys team that just made a statement against the eight and one Vikings. They're going to have to be up for this game, and I believe that they will be. But I don't

I don't see how to answer your question, Coup. I don't see how a win at all could be a bad thing, but particularly on a short week, because, if anything, you prefer that over the loss, because you don't want the loss going into the short week, because you don't have that much time to bounce back emotionally from the loss before you have, you know, a game in four days.

So I love that you thump one of the best teams in the NFL on their turf and that immediately allows you you will have a few hours to play ride home. You wake up this morning, you're feeling great. But when you come into building, it makes it easier to not focus on yesterday because you handle business yesterday. Now it's on the handling business on Thursday. I was the health of everybody, no health issues, Mica said. Michael left the game for a little bit later in the

game where it can be issue. He got rolled rolled, got rolled on by some linemen. But after the game he said he was fine. You know, he said, they'll continue to rehab and everything. He said, he feels fine. Obviously we know he's been a little bit banged up this year, but he's going to be on that field for Thursday. Hell, he came back on the field on yesterday,

and I wasn't exactly in on that one. I was like, I understand that the lion wants to eat, but at forty to three, put the line in the cage, like sometimes you got to protect the players from themselves. But that said, no major injuries that we are aware of at this point. They came out of yesterday, So they came out healthy, they came out with a statement win, and now it's on to the Giants. Well, what was what happened? This is kind of a sidebar. Huh, no

pun intended Anthony Barr. What happened with him? Did he reaggravate that injury on That's a great question, and that's what I'm going to ask Mike McCarthy today because McCarthy himself later late last week said that Bar was on quote unquote the trajectory play the game. And obviously this is something This is a game that if there were no other games regular season wise that Anthony Barr wanted to play this year, it was going to be against his former team and the vikings and I was stunned

that he was on the inactives list. No signs of a setback or regression before then, but it happened. We'll try to get some more information today from Mike McCarthy and what happened with that. But it did lead to seeing what I wanted to see. Demone Clark. Yeah, played well. Forty three defensive snaps helped stop the run on more than one occasion. But one play in particular comes to mind, where there was a lane and he just shot into that gap and he was like not on my watch.

He was like not on my first play of the game. He got washed out, looked like he was hesitant to maybe plunge in and get in there. The fact that he rectified that later by having that first step and that recognition to get in there was really encouraged. I wrote it down. I was like, your linebackers, even with as dominant as Dallas was, the linebackers had no chance early in the game to stop the run. Minnesota did a good job of opening up run lanes. But guess

what demon Clark learned. You could see it he did, And I love that the Cowboys they're showing me, they're willing to learn from some mistakes. So, whether you're talking about the Ezekiel Elliott knee injury and how they they're handling it in twenty twenty two verses twenty twenty one, the lessons told in twenty twenty one, you talk about Damon Clark, and you know he's thrust into the at center stage. When Barne goes out against the Bears, he

gets forty defensive snaps. The Cowboys, I think kind of overthought it a little bit as far as his progression. They scaled him all the way back to only seven snaps against Green Bay. They lose that game. Green Bay racks up over two hundred meaningful rushing yards this this game, they come back and they say, okay, okay, rook forty three, go do it. And by golly, he went out there and he did it. Why did you look at me when you said that, because it's not my words. Stop it.

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make sure that that's right. But welcome back in to Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. I put out a Twitter poll out there just by the way, and you can go vote on it too for the new next couple hours at Kyle Underscore Yeoman's I said, what or was the Cowboys forty to three win over the Vikings the most complete win in the Mike McCarthy era. It's got

one hundred and thirty votes on it right now. Ninety eight point four percent of them said yes, so one point six it says no and yeah you can. You can go vote on it. I want to see how lopsided they could get. And I asked, if not, which one, I want to know which one is in there too. I've gotten the Falcons game a couple of times that one percent or so. Yeah, dropping in Kyle's comments, which one you think is better? Don't just click no, Yeah,

I want to know. I think for the most part, I mean, if one hundred and thirty five people had voted, now it's going up more yeses and it's only one point five. That's like four people and I've got three responses. So yeah, go vote on it, tell me what you think, and we'll give you the final results of that vote when we come back. Thanks. Thanks, No, see, Isaiah's gonna do it too. I'm gonna follow You're gonna follow me. Finally, there's a couple of people in the building that still

don't follow me, and it bothers me. Oh social media world hip Alex Lily making an appearance. All right. Offense Cowboys offense yesterday, finishing with a whopping and I mean a whopping four hundred and fifty yards of offense. They were eleven of seventeen on third down talk about what they were able to do third down twelve of seventeen.

Excuse me, it was impressive early on, and they took control of this game by using time of possession, using the ground game, and it opened everything else up, Isaiah. But what impressed you the most about what the offense was able to do consistency? Yeah, yeah, just consistency, universatility and killing Moore you know him, you know, obviously committing to the ground game, committing to the high precision passing game.

And then when he recognized that he had protection up front, the utilization of Tony Allard in a passing game out the backfield, those I mean it was. It just kept those guys off, off balance, off kilter. And it's whenever you can be that diverse in your offerings and be successful in all of those different areas, it's it's hard to be stopped play calling in execution. Ye, pizza boy brought all the pepperoni on yesterday, extra sauce, extra sauce, everything.

He put all the talkings on it. For example, you look, you look at that that wheel route on that sixty plus y'ard touchdown to Tony Pollard, the dot from Dak the perfect speed to get past Jordan Hicks by Tony Pollard and catching that ball deep, which isn't easy over

the shoulder. But I love that. And when I asked about it after the game, Dak Prescott was like, that was all Kellen Moore Like, Kellen Moore schemed that up perfectly because he saw the matchup between Pollard and Hicks and he wanted to exploit it, and exploit it he did. But as we've seen with the Cowboys, we talk about

consistency and their need to establish that going forward. A lot of times the play calling might be on point, but the execution might not be there, and then it's a dead play and they can't extend drives like they were yesterday. Play calling phenomenal, Yesterday, execution I'd be remiss if I didn't draw a glowing yellow circle around the offensive line. They were magnificent yesterday. Helped open up lanes.

Zeke did the rest, Tony did the rest. Play action then was set up, and then it came to are we going to see any miscommunications between Deck and the receivers. We saw no miscommunications. We only saw one drop, which was an arguable drop. Doalt and shows couldn't really down with one hand. I registered it as a drop. Some didn't. That's fine to argue that for another day, whatever I call you. You categorize that as a drop in the back of the end zone. He didn't use his left hand. Yeah, fair.

So outside of that one error, for the most part, the execution was nearly flawless. Clean up the penalties because the only reason they got three points at all was because you kept giving penalties on that particular drive that extended it. They got the field goal. Otherwise it's a shutout game. But that's the only black mark. And in again, aim like this, I don't care. I mean, you know you gotta you know, you gotta clean with the penalty. So we're not going to harp on that. Just clean

those up. Everything else was magnificent. Keep doing everything else and that one thing, stop doing that one thing. How much? How much of credit needs to go to the offensive line and what they were able to do. This is a front seven that we we talked about, We harped on all last week. Who's Hunter? Yeah, exactly where's he at? I don't know? He didn't do anything. He was missing a great game. They got wiped, big time game. Did you see great game Zach doing Zach. Zach was rolling

cats up like a dog on Holy Moses. Scrape ye bettything pancake. Everybody, everybody was getting thrown out the club. It was this is this game was personal? Yeah, it was. This was very personal. This was not just Okay, we're gonna go here and compete. These guys felt some type of way. They felt some type of way. So what impressed you the most by the offensive line and what they're able to do against the good front seven that had zero success. Zach was or Dak was not sacked

at any point in the entire ball Physicality. Yeah, I mean, this is I don't want to say because I have to I can't have to go back into my rolodecks of games. But this was the most dominant to my memory and physical let's just say, not dominant, but most physical I've seen this officer line in terms of imposing their will. I felt like they were coming downhill in

the running game. I felt like even post snap, you know if I mean, post post whistle, guys were still locked up on guys and we're refusing to receive being a receiving end of an extra shove or extra little tug or whatever like that. Guys were still locked up like a dog on pit and it was just like hey, like no, no, but they got to pull us apart because I'm not gonna let you feel like you like you have one up on me. And I just I

like the attitude. The attitude. That's something we were talking about last week, right when we were talking to reference to the guy that got signed, like not not here, but what that could potentially bring to this team, all right, not only just a defensive side, but the attitude just felt different, all right. It just felt like they were angry. And that's when I when I say it felt personal.

It's like you got punched in the mouth and you're gonna meet this dude in the playground, like like you're like you're going You're going there knowing it's going down, right, So you're getting yourself rounded up, right, you got your blood and bloods pumping right, your muscles starting to swell up. Yeah, like you like you feeling like it's it's going down you know basement, you know, like two flat tires, Like two flat tires, man. So yeah, it just felt like

that and I liked it. Yeah, the offensive line just completely deleted, deleted the Vikings defensive line. I mean, go back and watch that film. Zach Martin's throwing everybody out of the club. Tylas Smith is just playing magnificent tern Steele as well. Connor McGovern saw him on a couple of pulls where he just completely created lanes. I thought Connor McGovern had his best game year and shouts out to Tyl of Beaddish as well. I mean that offensive

line did work, just absolutely work. To the point, like you said, Vikings at zero sex on Dak Prescott and they only had one quarterback hurry and that hurry was Dak Prescott evading the sec to and it turned into only a one yard game. But you know what made that more meaningful was it created another drive in which the Cowboys got points off of it. So everything that could have almost everything that could have gone well for the Cowboys did execution. Playmakers made plays. There were no

game breaking errors or mistakes. Forty to three. I like saying that forty three it is. It's got a good ring to you mentioned playmakers making plays. I've got to bring up Tony Pollard has his emergence over these last four games. He's had over one hundred yards from scrimmage in the last four games Detroit, Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, and each of those games he's had at least eighty yards rushing. Yesterday, he showed exactly what he could do

as a receiver one oh nine through the air. He had six targets, caught all six of them for one hundred and nine yards and two touchdowns. He is averaging over the last four games six and a half yards per carry with four touchdowns on the ground two more through the air. Has his emergence shown that he's the most valuable player skills wise on the offense at the moment, because I don't want to put Zach Martin up there, because Zack Martin is right now and has been the

most valuable player on your offense. But as Pollard showing that he's one of those guys, or at least he should be in that conversation, I feel he could be in the conversation. But if you're asking me, is he that guy? The answers no. For me, it's still Deak Prescott. It's still Dak Prescott. Teams are going to have to defend against the presence of Deak Prescott and what he can do down the field as well as what he

can do underneath with those those quick routes. And if you remove Dek Prescott from the fold, and you know, you look at Cooper Rushi and those numbers that Tony Poll is putting up. Was he putting those numbers up necessarily with Cooper Russian? I know Ezekiel Elliott was on the field, there's will, but he was on the field yesterday against Minnesota Vikings as well, and Tony Poll still went off. I think it all works together, everything works

to the next thing. But Dak Prescott for me, is still the MVP of the Cowboys offense, not named Zack Martin, because again, Zach Martin is a different tier because to me, Zach Martin is outside of Michael Parsons, the best player in the league, maybe number two behind Michael Parsons. No, no shout, no shade to Aaron Donald, because Aaron Donald is Aaron Donald. But you know, Zach is Zack. So

for me, it's still Dak Prescott behind Zach Martin. But yeah, you could make the argument that Tony pol is putting himself in the conversation. I think that's fair what about you. Sorry, Welcome to the show, Isaiah, considering Dak Prescott a skilled player, saying, I think you could, yeah, quarterback, all right, um, most skilled position on the field supposedly right now, I would say that TP is your most You say it, you can say it. I don't want to be stuck where

I was stuck. It's Dad, Yeah, it's Dak. But in terms of weapons, I don't know what this offense is without TP right now. I think you're right in that regard. So that's that's where that's where I was kind of drawn. Well, you also look at the numbers with Dak Prescott in the fold. I mean, Tony Pollard's season prior to Dak Prescott's return has not been or was not nearly what it is now. That's true, I mean, I mean that's

where the stats to the whole picture. I also said, Kellen Moore has learned how to utilize TP more and ezekiel Elia obviously getting pained up contributed to more opportunities for TP. Right, So that's why the stats don't show everything. But I think that you know in its entirety in terms of Kellen Moore's utilization, in terms of the opportunity to present it to TP in terms of the offensive

line seemingly playing better Dak playing. But like all these things are coming to a head and the opportunity to present itself and TP's taking full advantage of it. But without a without a Tony Pollard, I don't know what this office is doing right now, because where's the where's the major threat offensively if TP's not doing what he's doing. And I don't want to rebut that because it'll it'll

come off as if Pollard is disposable. And I know there are those that feel like every running back is disposable. And I'm team hashtag RBS matter, So for me, Pollard is not nearly as disposable as people think. Neither is Ezekiel Elliott. So I don't want to take anything away from Tony Pollard. I'll just simply say he is. In the conversation, he's playing out of his mind, continuing to do so even with Ezekiel Elliott back on the field.

But again, I'm hard pressed to put him over Dak Prescott because if you remove Dak Prescott from the mix, we've seen that Tony Pollard isn't the same When teams don't have to account for the quarterback because they weren't defending Cooper Rush like they're defending Dak Prescott. And when teams have to defend against the back, of course, it's going to make things a little bit easier for running backs, be it as a half back taking handoffs or as a receiver out of the back field. So Tony Pollard

does beneficiary of Dak Prescott's presence. But give the man credit because once the ball is in his hands, he's making moves, he's making plays, he's getting the job done. Yeah, he's been incredible, and I think you said it right. Stats don't always tell the tale. But also I don't know if the stats are really showing exactly what Tony Pollard has meant to this offense either, because six and a half yards per carry, that's a phenomenal number no

matter what. But the way that he has opened things up to other guys like Noah Brown, Ceedee Lamb, even Dalton Shoult, I think that's another piece of the value to what Tony Pollard has brought to the table. When we come back, though, seven sacks for the defense most since two thousand and eight by a defensive unit and it should have been a Cowboys. It should have been more, but I'll argue that there was another position group that played better than the pass rush. When we come back

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Whoa whenever team wins gets Odell. You know what, It's so funny you say that, because I was thinking about that on the way in on the drive end today. That literally crossed my mind. I said, I wonder if Odell is looking at this game to to see what's going to be the tipping point, right the Giant's gonna bounce back and show because the Giants and it's what prompted my thought on that, and they didn't. They didn't. They just lose a receiver estor that's that's what prompted it.

Wandale Robinson. He went off for one hundred yards yesterday before suffering a torn acl So you're saying that they're they're so anxious like January right right now they are. The prices went up, and their offer is gonna go up. Absolutely, their offer's gonna go up. So um, Cowboys still have

a fantastic shot at signing ob Jum. But with the injury to Wandale Robinson, the Giants are going to put more money on the table now and the Cowboys might have to match serve there and or they could just bludgeon the hell out of the Giants and make the decision for Odell without additional money is being considered. Do it? Do it now? All right? Well, with the forty to three win for the Dallas Cowboys over the Minnesota Vikings, they at least have a shot for Odell Beckham Junior

to be there. Because he was watching yesterday he said it said those boys went crazy. Yes they did, Odell, Yes they and you saw tanks. Response, he sa, come on on, come on, it takes so make the right decision, Make the right decision. Well, now you've got a decision to make. You've got a helmet sticker to give out with you this every week if the Cowboys get a victory. Players of the game or position groups of the game,

wink wink. Moving on, Patrick, No C. Walker, Well have you start things out with your players of the game. I'm going to let's go with the that I love you donut. Okay, I love you donut goes to the Cowboys defense as a whole. Cowboys defense as a whole. The significance of the donut is without those penalties that help the Vikings get three points, you have a shutout. So I'm just going to four kicks and giggles. I'm going to pretend that it was a shutout a donut

if you will. Cowboys defense played well up front. Their defensive line was absolutely dominant. Talk about Michael Parson's talk about during so Armstrong DeMarcus Aawrence. You know, those guys had a day. The linebacker corps. Talk about Damon Clark, a rookie, helping lead the way at the line at the second level with forty three snaps and humping stop Dalvin Cook on the ground. Talk about that secondary justin

Jefferson once again shut down, Tryvon's other son, Jamar Chase's brother. Oh, Terry mclauren's brother, right, Tryvon Diggs and that secondary deleted. Justin Jefferson deleted, Adam Tealing deleted t J Hockinson um and shouts out to Anthony Brown. He clear concussion protocol, got back for the Cowboys, and he helped the Cowboys achieve this goal. As as maligned as Anthony Brown has been with this fan base, he played well, uh yesterday, and yeah as a whole. There you go, Cowboys defense,

very nice. I love you, I love you, Doughnut, thank you, Dan Quinn. Well everybody, Kyle gave me the grape Senate one. So that okay, So that's a that's a plum and it's not an actual sticker. Well what the heck gives me every time? It's on every sheet in there too. I've tried to use it. I know it's what I was going to. I was going to the freaking plum. Sorry, Buddez, I've wanted to do that as well. Uh, all right,

how about this. The defense had seven sacks yesterday, But I thought there was a player position group really that played really well yesterday. I don't even know what this is. But I'm gonna say, what is this? Do you know what this is? Anybody? Can anybody tell me what that is? A mao, it's a mango. A mango looks kind of weird to be a mango. Well that's fine, We're gonna give a mango. Because j Ron Curse and the safety squeezed every piece that they could out of that defense.

I mean, that was a phenomenal outing from j Ron Curse in the company. I really liked the way that he went sideline to sideline. He played back a little bit too, kind of rotated in there with Malie Cooker. As the free came down into the box. He had a sack, one of which that Minnesota just elected not to block him on. So he took full advantage and he kept Kirk Cousins, by the way, from dancing. He

kept Kirk dancing. I got to take the headphones off it to actually get him do it from keep him from doing a little bit of this all the way through. No dancing for Kirk Cousins with the chain and company. Uh yeah, that was not present on the flight, so no such thing because the secondary and the defense control Kirk Cousins all the way throughout. So that's my helmet sticker today. Michael Porsons wouldn't open ask Kirk Cousins would which you got him? A forty homie took that chain,

took that chain. That's right, what you got. I'm going right here with this pair. You guys would know I'm selecting the pair. Car I don't know. Well, let me tell you who's going to is going to skip Pete in this running back room because both of his running backs had a pair of touchdowns. See what I did there. It's better than the plum. Thank you very much. It's good. Yeah, So skip Pete. This butts for you, buddy Boom. That just happened right there. Pere, it is Pere. It is

the puns. The puns are too much. That doesn't for us. Here on Talking Cowboys on a victory Monday tomorrow, we will be talking to Cowboys Nation eight eight eight, five five two two nine to seven. We're gonna take your calls all show tomorrow and we'll get you ready, of course, for the short week ahead and get you ready for the Thanksgiving match up with the New York Giants. But for Chris Beam in the back for Isaiah stand back, Patrick no sleep walk around, Kyle y'amen saying so long

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