Talkin' Cowboys: Matching Philly’s Offense

the Philadelphia Eagles. Here on Talking Cowboys presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company Live from the s WBC Studios with Rob Phillips, Isaiah Stanback, Patrick Nose Walker, and Chris Beam. I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us, gentlemen. When we walked into this studio today, Isaiah looked at me, Yeah, that's right, and he had this half finished bottle of turn Up. Turn Up is a great way to put it. Let's the sponsor be careful exactly. I'm not gonna say.

I'm not gonna say the sponsor because it was I don't think it's anything really even a big name. It's about to go crazy. Boys. People in the fitness industry know that the name. Uh, he gave it to me and was like, finish it. That's right, and it's it's supposed to be like pre workout, like I up tick and yeah, I finished it. So let's see this is this is a social experiment happening right before you're very at I finish it. Probably three minutes ago. I chugged

it all in one sitting. He definitely has about eleven minutes left before he just started doing the fourth So let's thanks start popping like scanners. Let's see what happens zero. But the next already kind of late, little jittery to me a little bit, Yeah, a little bit. It's probably going over the rail here, buddy. It's probably because I'm nervous about what I just got into my lley. He's gonna start growling at me. Isaiah's up, run to the bathroom.

We know why. It's time to play the game. Yes, gentlemen, how are we doing? Doing fantastic? You gotta keep it hot with you, but we're doing well. You know, I'm I'm nervous. I'm not gonna lie to you. We're gonna see how it's going. Because Isaiah can handle that stuff. He's got the body mask to do it. I'm just I'm over here in the corner. You really did go buttoms up on it. I like that. Are you struggling like a man? Are you tired? No? I feel I

actually feel fine. You didn't need a jolt. I've been up for a little bit. I've got my coffee in this morning, early, I don't even have it with me, my black rifle. I had it at home this morning. Uh, let's get stuff. Pooky from New Jake City just be calling me so. Cowboys Eagles one of the biggest divisional matchups that we've seen in quite some time. And we'll

talk about that coming up in a minute. But Rob Phillips hit us with some news and notes early on Cowboys back on the practice field, Yes, back to practice. A couple news and notes. Micah Parsons Defensive Player of the Week for the NFC. He's only been the best player in the NFL defensively league. Yeah, say that again, Micah Parsons. What was the part after that? He's only been the best defensive player in the in the NFL season,

maybe the pound for pound player period. He really deserved this one because he did play three plus quarters with a growing injury, and we'll see what his status is today, how much work he gets done. I think they feel pretty good about him playing this week. One roster move practice squad addition at the tight end position Seth Green, former Houston Texan former. I think he's from Allen, just up the road here. Yeah, went to Houston for college.

He takes the spot of Tucker Addington the second long snap that they had on the practice squad last week. They're pretty banged up at tight end. We know that Dalton Schultz only played ten snaps that pc el injury flared up on him in the game. UM Jake Ferguson was on the injury report last week. Sean mcun's been banged up at times. Uh. They need depth at tight end, so that's something to watch. I can eat some peanut butter and make weight, you'll be right back at it. Minimum.

I'm just saying, get minimum one point two. Who oh your boy, God me. Now, if you end up getting the VET minimum and you sign as a tight end over there, I think we need a portion of that. We need to cut a chat. So I was talking with some of the staff last week prior to the game, and they were saying, we maybe shouldn't have played Dalton Schultz as much as we did in the in the Washington game, maybe we shouldn't have played him as much. But he's good to go. This is gonna be fine.

He's he's back to back to being healthy, back to be and ready to go. And then like Rob just said, ten snaps pcl flares up and they had had some some things drawn up at a couple of times for Peyton Hindershot, for Jake Ferguson as guys in the receiving game. It didn't really work out because, like we talked about, nobody outside a Ceedee Lamb and Noah Brown had a reception. But it's interesting to me to think, now that Dalton Scholtz is out, do they really have a struggle for

a wide receiver or at least a pass catcher. I should say at tight end because Ferguson hasn't necessarily shown it yet as a pass catcher. Hindershot has the ability, but he's been limited to this point. I'm going with Peyton himnder Shot. I'm gonna call him hymnder Shot. You know, Sholtz. We talked about this wind Shots initially got injured pcls. They need Risks to heal. He missed only one game. We also discussed why he would try to manage through

the pain and get back. Obviously he's under a franchise tag. He's got the two young gunners behind him, Ferguson and pick Hindershot. You know, okay, But that said, he reaggravates Fergie's dealing with a little something. Although Fergie did playing sixty four percent of the snaps, but he missed a practice because of a knee injury. Hindershot right now, outside of the new addition to seth Green is your only fully healthy tight end and he's proven that he can

make plays down the field. So does he need to improve in his run blocking, Yes he does. But as far as being able to separate, and I said this before when it comes to Hindershot, there is not a tight end on this roster. There's not a tight end on several rosters that can separate the way that young man can separate like his way he breaks out of routes and his feet, his quickness, he separates like a receiver. If he ever truly adds run blocking and pass blocking

to his to his Arsenal. He's going to be dangerous, but in the immediate it has to be hindershot if you're trying to find another receiving weapon for Cooper Cup and then eventually Dak Prescott. I don't disagree with you, just think that, you know, as you mentioned by the way, Yeah, yeah, probably do that. Cooper Rush. I don't disagree with you. I actually agree with you. The only problem is, as I mentioned that yesterday, Kellen Moore is going to have

to open up this playbook. The number one priority has been keeping Cooper Rush safe and protecting him, which is why you haven't seen a whole lot of successful passes going on, because these guys have been staying in to block. A lot of the passes that are going down the field aren't high precision passes or just some drops too

on some of the balls that he has delivered. But there are not a lot of high precision passes because you're having to try to push things down the field for when you do take your shots, you're blocking it up and trying to ensure that he has the time to deliver the ball with high accuracy to get back to Dallas's office. Yes, they check one box last week by rushing the ball over thirty times. That's freaking awesome. Okay, now we know what comes off of that. Play action

comes off of that. Are you willing to let these tight ends now that are banged up right and let Hindershot get out in routes at the exposure their possible risk of Cooper Rush being under pressure. That's the question that they're going to be posed with because that is the response that they they need in order to generate some offense here. You can't just run the ball and

run two main concepts. It's it's not a thing. It's not it's not a thing unless you just simply just wipe everybody off the planet with your running game, which I don't think we're there yet. I think they were persistent last week, but they're not too old Dallas Cowboys. We just hand the ball off and just and just

beat them down to an entire game. They're gonna have to get out and run some routes, and to do that, you're gonna have to risk Uber Rush being under pressure against this front, which is maybe the best total front they will have faced this this whole year. Tom Pellaceo from the NFL Network who's also plugged in around here, said Schultz didn't have a new injury or damage. As long as he gets through the week, he should be good,

good to go on Sunday. That's something to watch though, Like, I don't know if it's as severe as the PCL that Zeke had last year, but think about how limited Zeke was the whole year. Like No, C just said it requires rest, and there's no rest. I mean, you get a bye week here in about three weeks, but

other than that, you gotta keep going. So he's gonna try to play through it, I'm sure, but yeah, it could be Hendershot Ferguson and you know you're probably looking at potentially calling up Seth Greener mcun if he's good to go to. I just I don't I don't like. It's never a good thing for somebody who's been injured a lot. Okay, it's never a good thing when somebody does something in football and then stops and looks at

the body part that's actually bothering them. Like you try to shake it off and he's like, ah, man, that something is right, you know, saying you go to the sideline and talk to the trainer, talk to the doctor's language. Yeah, but when you stop and you start like messing with your knee, looking at it, like, what's wrong with you? What's going on in here? You wish you had X ray vision because you're doing talking to it. That's airby.

I mean, we were in the studio watching it. He stopped his route and he's just like looking at it. He's messing with his knee, and I'm like, ooh, it's not good. It's not good, and I'm I'm hoping that the reporters are true, but it's it's It doesn't give you a sense of hope, and I hate that for him, especially this year. This is a huge year for him. Not only was it a big hit for Dak to go out because he is Dak's guy and he's his DA you know, security blanket. We thought that he would

be Cooper Russians security blanket. Found out that Norah Brown is his security blanket. So not only did he have that big hit in terms of Dak not feeding him the ball for this long duration at the time, now he's hit with an injury. It's a double whammy for kind of going back to what you said a few episodes ago, Dalton is definitively Dak Prescott's guy. But now when Dak comes back, you were asking if Dalton's gonna get his targets not healthy enough? Logically yes, but he's

not healthy so maybe not. So you know, it's not looking too promising for Shot unless he can kind of heal up on the job. But we've seen as recently is Ezekie Elliot in twenty twenty one healing up on the job when it's a spring pcl. It's just those two things don't marry well. And this is why guys hate the franchise tag. Oh no doubt, no, it's true. This is why when you when the fans out there like, oh, I'll just go out there and sign the contract your

makeup to make all this money this one year. This is why people. I mean it's guaranteed and contracts year to year or not guaranteed, but you get that lump sum of guaranteed money that is a lot more than ten point nine million or whatever he got. So if you don't think that he's losing money right now, well he at the moment, he's losing future revenue at the moment. Well, because you think about it, if you come back next year. The Cowboys could tag him, but with his production this year,

or at least the injuries, they probably won't. They're not gonna go and he can't come last year. Yeah, unless he just goes on. He's still never had a one hundred yard receiving game in his career. He's never had one, so to this point point, even if he were to come in and explode, it would be for like eight catches eighty yards and maybe a touchdown, maybe two if

he gets lucky. So that's not even ms. Yeah, in terms of the ceiling that we've seen from Dalton Schultz, he would have to really go off to even get close to the numbers he had last year, which is what he was pushing for contract wise. Anyways, you brought something up barely. This is a league wide conversation, but

scoring is down in the NFL at the moment. You're at forty two points per game, which is about five or six points less than it is normally on average, and that's combined points per game, not just per team. So scoring is down across the board in the NFL, and a big reason for that has been the lack of play or the lack of effectiveness in offensive line play. Throughout the season, offensive lines, not only Withoud the Dallas Cowboys,

but across the league have not been good. And that's a byproduct of college football in the way that the spread offense is gone for the last ten two or five to ten years or so in college ball, and now all those guys are making it into the NFL and they're having to relearn the position and doing it do it a different way. Good point. So with that being said, we're seeing a lot of tight ends around the league having to max protect, having to come in

and block more than being a receiver. Where it seemed like with the Kelsey's and the Kittles and the Wallers of the world, we're moving the tight end position into a past catching heavy situation. Feels like this year that's reverted backwards and you haven't seen those high end tight ends. Even Kelsey the other day he had four touchdown grabs. He had like five catches, like that was it. It was all in the red zone. That was the only

time he was targeted. Is this a change in the NFL this year that we're seeing that's going to continue forward because of the lack of offensive line depth in the NFL, and tight ends are having to make up for that. That's probably part of it. I think we're seeing it magnified here, and Isaiah spoke about it just because of the situation the Cowboys are specifically and without Dak and without Tyrann Smith, and they have a young

player at left tackle and Tyler Smith. I also think I think defensers are just adjusting in general to what this style of offense, the more spread out stuff. They're saying, Okay, fine, I mean we saw what the what defenses did to the Cowboys last year. What defensives are doing to the best quarterbacks in the league at the Pat Mahomes, the Justin Herberts, it's like, fine, we're gonna we're gonna zone it up, We're gonna keep everything in front of us.

We're not gonna give you great stuff down the field. And it's forcing offenses to be more plotting and methodical,

and it's not as fun. It's not as fun. But that's been the defensive adjustment I think in general that we've seen from defenses around the league, and that's to me, that's one reason why scoring is down, and and that does put more emphasis on your running game and having to be more effective that way to get yardage because this stuff over the top, it's kind of boring, but I mean it's in a league that that is tilted more towards the past. Defense has got to do something. Yeah,

I mean I have two things to say to that. One, that shirt is phenomenal. That Peach, the way it just jumps off that blue was just fantastic. Feels kind of make sure but really bring out your eyes. Yeah, I just had to put it out there for those that are just listening to the audio only, check out YouTube video. You got to see rob shirt. It's just it's fantastic. Um. But to that point, I think it's everything in the NFL, and and all you guys can agree, particularly as said

here having played in the league. Everything is cyclical, right, So it went through a phase where offense was just shreddened, defenses just all over the place. You know, the rules helped legislate that into place as well. You can't really touch a quarterback list not that's a whole different conversation, Christian.

You can't, you can't put hands or receivers, etcetera. So eventually what was going to happen is what we're seeing happening now is to Rob's point, defenses and defensive coordators. They started to adjust for an offenses and started to adjust and whom they bring in personnel wise via of the draft and free agency to account for these high powered offenses. The Patrick mahomes is of the world and and you know Green Bay when Davante Adams was there,

those types of offenses. But so yes, to answer your question, it's going to, I believe, continue for the foreseeable future. But again it's cyclical. Eventually offenses will then adapt and then it will again become an offensive driven league. But for right now, is that happens this year? Yeah, I don't know that it will happen as soon as this year, because you're talking about defenses like the Cowboys, the forty

nine Ers, I mean the Eagles for example. I mean, there are several teams in the NFC alone that can shut down some of these high powered offenses. So I think it's going to take a couple more seasons or so before we see that the needles start to move back in the opposite direction. Agree, look at the Chargers, even like their defense, there's guys on every level of that defense. The Chargers are real effects defensively and they're

like the twentieth ranked defense in the league right now. Yeah, I mean it happens, and it's not because it's their fault. They actually have decent numbers, but just defenses are starting the shift and they're they're covering these tight ends. We talked about it last week with j Ron Curse eliminating tight ends, eliminating good good time guys to deal with. The Eagles got a tight end of their own they got to look out for. We've got an Ope cursing

tight end. Yeah, he's just trying to cancel some people out. Dallas Goddard and Company coming in hot at five a O. We're gonna preview the Dallas defense and how they're going to slow down that Philadelphia offense to starting with the run game and the backfield for Philadelphia with Jalen Hurtson company when we come back with more talking cowboys. When you build, you start with the foundation, and homeownership is

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is the bye week. You're gonna be on Chicabo No, I'm trying to be You're gonna be on Rob the Island. I'm trying to go to I'm trying to go to his PBR man. I'm trying to get this roo rodeo boy all right. Eagles offense thirty eight points in week one, twenty four points in the next two weeks. They put up twenty nine against Jacksonville, and then last week they held on late against the Arizona Cardinals twenty to seven. Team is the final score? They are five and zero.

Jalen hurtson Company look legitimate, but so does this Dallas defense. Right, It's gonna be fun. This is the matchup. I think everybody will have circled the Dallas defense versus the Philadelphia offense. Isaiah, your initial thoughts on what you're seeing from Philadelphia and how dangerous are they really even based off of some of the schedule they've played so far, I feel like Bart Scott right now, Okay, can't wait. I'm looking forward

to it. These guys there, everybody talks about their defensive lining. Yes, their defensive line will not allow you to run the ball. That's concerning because they have the big boys in the middle. Obviously, with big I call them baby Davies, Big baby Davies. I know that was a basketball player. But I'm gonna call them big Baby Davies and in big Fletcher Cox.

They got hardgrow over there. They got me, they got they got some dudes right in the middle that won't allow you to really be as successful as you like to be on the ground game. We know that is very important for Dallas' success to be able to establish the ground game because they haven't been throwing the ball the way they've wanted to. So that's a little bit concerning Their defense doesn't scare me. The Dallas Is defense. Dallas'

defense scares everybody, and they should. Philly's defense does not scare me. But they almost like their patient. They're very patient. They just chill. They do what they're supposed to do. They don't necessarily make a big bunch of big splash plays unless you throw it up to them. If you throw it up Slay Gardner, Johnson and all them guys, they're gonna make you pay for it if you put it up in the air, if you try to run the ball on the ground. Fletcher Cox, big Baby, They're

gonna remind you that they're in there. We're previewing Dallas defense versus Philly off I'm sorry, man, I pulled a piece, all right, So all right, let's flip it to the outside. Das defensive No, no, no no, no, exactly the whole thing. So Dallas Dallas's defense is very is very explosive in the sense that these guys will try to get after obviously the offense of Philadelphia, but Philadelphia has a lot of options that they provide in a lot of leverage problems.

Dallas's advantage is that they're so explosive and they make big plays, and that the personnel groupings can obviously take advantage of that of Philly, even though they have some dudes, Dallas Dallas has better personnel matchups overall. The thing that concerns me is that they're so overly aggressive, not from the sense of dan Quinn putting them out of position in terms of blitzing and things of that nature, but from the sense that these guys like to make plays.

And that's an amazing thing, as we've seen this year, until you start having leverage problems, until you're slowed down by the options that Philadelphia provides in terms of the RPO, and most people think RPO are either going to run

the ball or gona passes in one place. No no, no, no. Philadelphia's rpo is I can run the ball right here because we have the numbers in the box and we have bigger guys on your smaller guys, and we have six five for six, whatever it might be, right, they feel good about there in the box running schemes, so they can do that. That's a run option. Or I

think can running with Jalen Hurts. That's another option. Or we have three guys out to the bunch up top and we could run a screenplay because we have three guys blocking your two guys. Or we have Dallas Goddard down here and he's matched up, you know, him and A. J. Brown have one on one match up when we can run a screen down here as well. They put your defensive ends, your outside linebackers, at a disadvantage because they

put you in no man's land. Whatever decision that you would like to make from your defensive position, they can make you wrong even though you're doing your assignment. You're doing what dan Quinn told you to do, but they still can make you wrong because they have three or four options that they can go with based upon the look that you give So that's the problem, and that's the thing that's concerning to me, because like even if Dallas does what they're supposed to do defensively, you still

could be in a bad predicament. I'm gonna I'm gonna let up ticket Nix because I did some homework on the Eagles, specifically Monday night and then again last night, and I got some some numbers here that I want to tell us out. Okay, Yeah, just real quick to piggyback on what Isaiah said, if you go back and watch this Cardinals game, they didn't they didn't blow you

away offensively. They at twenty points in the game. But like you said about options like if you want to load up up front against them, there was a lot of screen actions at a lot of stuff that got here quick outside and he can get yack for you. We know about DeVante Smith, we know about A. J. Brown. I just think we asked the question, I think on Fan Tuesday by a fan, like, can can the RPO stuff and the run games slow down? The Cowboys rushed and in some since, yes, it can. That's what That's

what RPOs are designed to do. They're designed to make you freeze first A second, figure out what you're supposed to do. So I do think that is a concern because they're so good at it, and Hurts is so good at it, and Hurts has also become just a better overall passer too as part of that threat too, he is, he has really developed. I've been a fan of his since it came in the league. I know

some people haven't. I'm one of those people. I'm not a crazy Hurts well they I think he can win, but I don't think he's a great quarterback lead put it out. They've done a hell of a job designing an offense around his strength. But he's also he's just impressed me since Alabama just he constantly gets better. He's such a pro. But they have such and they've done such a good job of adding players. I mean a J. Brown is a great addition to this defense or offense.

So yeah, the RPO stuff. I'm curious where Micah Parsons goes because both these games last year were blowouts. Not everybody played in the final game. In Week three, it was a Cowboys blowout and they barely Eagles barely ran ball because it was such a lopsided game. Is it better for Mica to play on the edge or play off the ball and be able to survey survey things a little bit more. To me, that's part of the chess match too that I want to see. Okay, so

here's some science on on the Eagles. Yes. Yes, the more I dug into this this team, the less impressive they became in one particular aspect, and that's the passing game. You have to love how they've designed their offense as far as personnel wise. You know, they went and got a J. Brown. It's crazy because their offense is irreally similar to Dallas is when Dak is a mix right, because a J. Brown is the same building type of player as Michael Gallup. For the most part, I did it. Um,

DeVante Smith, Cite Lamb have the same skill set. You know, shifty guys can make plays, Um, But the word explosive keeps getting thrown around, right, And I was guilty of it as well until I started really digging into them. On Monday. Hurts has only four touchdowns, four passing touchdowns, and he has two interceptions. Cooper Rush has four touchdowns with no interceptions. That means Hurts is on pace for less than fourteen touchdowns this season to seven interceptions like that,

those are bad numbers. That's not even par like that's so par. In passing zero passing touchdowns in three of their five games three of their five games, Hurts has not been able to find a receiver in the end zone, be a Goddard or Brown or Vantae Smith or whomever. It's so lopsided. This is what I was referring to during the breaks. It's so lopsided. They are explosive as a run offense, explosive, you gotta contain that. But as a passing offense, they are so not great as far

as pay dirt. What they do well, it's what It's kind of matches what the Cowboys allowed to be done. How boys like Ben don't break. They rack up. They being the Eagles, they rack up a lot of yards in between the red zones. And yet Godard, for example, two hundred Goddard has two hundred and eighty yards after the catch, he leads all NFL players in there that

this is going to segue too. We'll get the key matchups later in the week, but a one of my matchups to watch, it's going to be Curse versus Goddard and you know we set on media match. They were asking, well, will you know how do you stop hurts in the run game. Well, what you do is for me, you don't blitz. You. You assign your three or four man front to win their their matchups as they have been

and then you keep a particular spy. But I don't think to answer your question, I wouldn't use Mica as the spy coming off of a growing injury, because first of all, I wouldn't even love him practice this week. I said that in media match yesterday's DNP, DNP, DMP or limited Limited Limited rehab, Rehab rehab, and then hey see you on Sunday. But I still wouldn't use Mica there. I would use anth Ny bar because I love what

I saw from Anthony Barr against the Rams. As far as his sideline to sideline, I saw two separate occurrences where he knifed in on what do we just talked about with theys do well screen passes? Okay, On two separate occasions, Anthony Barr red recognized, closed, knifed in and blew up two screen passes. One would have been a huge played by Tyler Higbee. This is what you need from bar in this particular game, and I think that's

how you help contain a Jalen Hurts. If Jalen Hurts beat you in this game by throwing forty times but only rushing for twenty yards, then so be it c AT, AT and T in a few weeks. However, I don't believe Jalen Hurts can beat you by throwing forty times and only rushing for twenty yards. So it's a very one dimensional offense. It's just that that one dimension is explosive, but the Cowboys have the personnel to limit that really quickly. I wanted to add to a couple of points that

you had there from your science lab. But Philadelphia fourth in the NFL and rushing yards per game for one hundred and sixty yards per pop. Then you've got their seventh in the NFL and passing yardage, so they're still pretty high up there in terms of throwing the football as well. If you wanted a comparison, Dallas is fifteenth in the NFL and rushing and their twenty seventh and passing, so they get a lot of it's it's your yardage is different. You're right, And then you said Michael Gallup

and A. J. Brown. I just wanted to debunk that one me too. Michael Gallups two hundred pounds, two different room classes and A J. Brown's two twenty five on a bad game. The way they played, they played violent. I agree with that. That's what I was going to add that to it. They're both guys that go and have that contested ball downfield. They can go up and make a grab different way. Class didn't say they have the same momay the same way, and he wanted to

get that out there before Twitter got out there. That's a good point about Micah because dan Quinn even told us on Monday they put him on the edge in part as a situational pass rusher in the second half because he was limited physically. So we'll see how he does this week. Hurts does average eight point five yards attempt. That helps when you've got a Davante Smith on your team, Yes, and you can you can press the ball down the field. He has six rushing touchdowns and there you go. Leads

his team in it, leaves his team in it. He's right up there in terms of the NFL rankings, and he averages over thirteen yards of Carr, he's their best ball carrier effect and in a good offensive good ball carrier, he's averaging almost four and a half first downs per game on the ground hurt his Why what do you mean? Why? Because? Why? Why? Why does this happen? What's it's always it's always going

to be a myriad, But go ahead. It's because of the fact that the defenders are left in no man's they are laying and it's that's what I'm talking about, Like it's no matter if you're doing your assignment. They make you wrong. They don't give a dog on how they get to the to the red zone. They don't give a dog on how they get to the end zone. They want to just they are patient, Like there's not

many teams in this league that are patient. These guys will jump, They'll run five screenplays in a row, different looks, totally from the looks. They'll give it dout the Goddard, they give it out to j. Brown, to give it out the Smith, they give the mouse Sanders. They don't give a dog on long as they're beating you down, keeping your offense off the field. My fear. Okay, I think Dallas defense is the best in the league, hands down,

most explosive, most best personnel, all that jazz. However, these guys will test the run defense. We keep talking about the run defense, and have we've been tested? This team not the most traditional run defenses run offenses, okay. And the reason why I say that is because they will rush the ball with Miles Sanders, they will run option with dog on Jalen Hurts, or they'll use the screens as rushes. Look at the film and how many one on one matchups these cornerbacks of the Dallas Cowboys are

gonna have to come up, be physical and win. Not gonna be able to come up and hit. Look at me and break how many tackles they break out of screen place? They take hits all day long. Freaking Buddha Baker was coming up laying hat and guess what, not making a tackle? Right? Those are those well as players were there one on one A J. Brown swallow, A J. Brown is out there lined up, okay, and he's out there one on one. You got a cornerback pain seven or eight yards off and you throw it out to him.

They are perfectly fine taking four yards from that and using that as a run play. They don't need Jalen Hurst thrown the ball down the field. They don't care if Jaleen Hurst throws the ball down the field. Their plan is to wear you down and have you so concerned and honed the end on your assignments in terms of run defense that all of a sudden you start creeping up and then what, oh crap, I forgot they had to MOUNTE Smith and A J. Brown. That past everybody.

They're looking for that one or two plays. That's all they care about, because in reality, everybody thinks that you have to have this amazingly explosive offense, you need two plays a game. But I just don't to that point, they've addressed that point. I don't think dan Quinn is going to creep up because dan Quinn's offense is totally fine giving you the underneath, and then when you get towards the red zone, then he says, figure it out.

I dare you to get into this end zone and team's time and again cannot get into the end zone. Teams that can't run the ball. That's fair. So that's what I'm saying. That's that's where's a little bit different. So trust me, I'm saying that I wholeheartedly. Some good run games that haven't been good against you. I mean Joe Mixon was tearing people up this year. Yes, he has. He's been good this year. Joe Mixon's been running the ball. He's on my fantasy team. He hasn't done crab He's

still find most of the league. I hear you, But I'm saying these and again I'm gonna keep saying I'm gonna yeah, I'm sorry. There has not been a team Antonio Gibson hasn't been Gibson this year. They're running there in the Officie fifty against das So. To your point, but these these are very traditional running teams, and I need people to understand that it's different. It's not just line up, come down. Hell, I'm gonna I'm also a Digi Zula, I'm Nevil Gallimore. I'm gonna come up here

and just run you off the ball. These guys will use leverage and if you choose one side, they're going the other way. Michael Parson needs to play defensive, and why because he needs to be able to take away the running game and be able to get out to the screen to stop that from you're coming from the inside out. That's where he needs to play this game. I have never said that in life, but this is the game that Micah needs to be on the edge.

This is the game that Sam Williams needs to be on the opposite edge, because these guys need to be able to build up. You condense the dog one running game, running lanes, and get out to the dog on screens because this team is going to scream Dallas to death. And I hope that these guys come up and hit and tackle because that is how they're going to be tested.

I'll say this and I'll accentuate your point. It's not specifically just that the Cowboys have struggle because, like like Cal said, they've going against some good run running teams. Not the Rams put some good running teams in Joe Mixon for example, in the bengalsum. But it's and I've said this two weeks or so ago going into the game at MetLife, mobile quarterbacks, more specifically than the run attack. It's mobile quarterbacks that tends to give this team hell.

Daniel Jones was and he proved me right, he was giving them some hell hurts is infinitely more mobile and Danny Danny Diames heard him on Broken Place, right, these are going to be behind So to to incituate your point, yeah, it's it's not simply the run offense. It's the fact that it's an extremely mobile quarterback, and it's a quarterback

that depends on his mobility to defeat you. But then the brig gets sliced both ways, right, Because while that's true, it's also true that it makes them infinitely more one dimensional. So in that one dimension, there's there's levels to this, right, So in that one dimension, are you talking about like like doctor Strange dimensions or are we talking about lights

like dimension? Because my biggest people, and we'll talk about this in film, I know, we gotta go to break go back to go back on film again for Dallas and look at the cutback lanes. Oh there's a lot of it against everybody against not even just the Rams. Go back to New York. How did it break run? So there has only been one running back who's been capable of making that cut? Is that a product that should have been? That was a broken I mean that was a mistacle too. So for a reason, yeah, I

mean for a reason. He markly you had hands on him. He's so now you're talking about you know how you're talking about h Jalen Hurts, who squat six hundred pounds. You know what I'm saying. So like I'm just saying, there are some things that have shown up on film that you're going to have to show up otherwise this team will make you freaking pay. Is that a product of a defensive line that is so aggressive? And that's

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from home or you're cheering in the stands. With essel Or lenses, you can see every exciting play book an appointment at your local essel Or experts and see what essel Or can do for you. See more. Do more on Talking Cowboy by Isaiah stand Back, Patrick nose Walker, Rob Phillips, Kyle Yeoman's let's continue this discussion. Let's do it about the outside of the Cowboys defense. Outside the tackles. That's where they've been hurt. That's where New York hurt you.

Whenever Washington had success, where do they hurt them on the outside? It was outside the tackles? J Or what was it JD. McKissick. And then they had Gibson who was the third running back, number forty one Robinson er I can't even remember his name is yeah, whatever it was. He had a big reception on the outside forty one Williams. So how does Dallas take that aggressiveness that this whole defense is just intertwined with and then dial it back a little bit to make sure that they have the

gap assignment and they're able to read these options. Well, they have to not be what they've been to date. Unfortunately, they have to slow down. You have to slow down because if you're flying around the way that you've been flying around, you're not concerned about the what ifs. If you're not concerned about the what ifs, that's when you get bit. That's what this whole offense is structured around, slowing you down. Their offense that they have, it's been

successful against some not so successful against others. But I honestly think like this offense is made for the dan Quinn type of defense, with the type of the dan Quinn personnel. Like you want to you want to play fast, you want to get up here cool? Right, come on, come on, Dan wants to get it on. Yeah, Dante Dan, Mike Tyson, this is freaking Frasier, you know what I'm saying,

like patient versus not patient. Like So, I think that the defense end positions specifically or outside linebackers, however you want to look at it, these guys an have to slow their role. You're going to have to slow your role, and you're gonna have to read not saying that these guys can't be themselves, but you can't play as fast as you've been playing from that position, because you think about it, these guys either been running to the sideline

or they've been running down here at the quarterbacks. Okay, they haven't had to be Oh do I do I come down here and take away the run? But if if I go down too much down the line of scrimmage, then Jalen Hurts is gonna pull it, and then I'll also have to be concerned where if he might fake it, might pull it and throw it out to the tight end or to run the receiver out on the outside. So these guys got to make not only just one decision, they gotta make it between choose between one to three

decisions on what do I do? On any given play. The challenging spot for this defense is going to be the second level, the linebackers, because the guards of the offensive line for Philadelphia get up to the linebackers, and how do they do that because of the boxes that are formed right, the linements that are there, a lot of times if their guards or not, if they don't have anybody standing over them, they have an easy track

straight up to the linebacker. Bar vander Ash, You're gonna have to have a game of your life because you're gonna be stuck there trying to figure out what direction do I go? And you talked about it earlier, Robbie, that one little pause, that one second pause allows these guards to get up to the next level. And if they're able to do that and get their hands on you, it's trouble. So bar vander Ash, hit go, hit your bench press, get your narrow grip on because you're gonna

be punching people in the chests all day long. I loved this part of the conversation because I think all of us, in some way, shape or form, Kyl and the mail Bag yesterday and us on social media have tried to clarify this for fans. The issue with the run defense for the Cowboys, it's not the interior. It's not the interior. It's not the interior. Those that are having success against this defense on the ground, they're doing

it on the edges. Be it one game, it might be the left edge, one game, it might be the right edge. An example would be what Mixon was able to do and his successful runs, the one that he got five or more yards on were towards the Cowboys right side of their defensive line. I just pulled up, say kuon Barkley. All four of his five or more yard runs were to the right side of the offensive line. He got stone wall in the middle, stone wall on the left. It seems like it's one or the other.

So it's not the interior, it's the outside on any given week. But it goes to your point. Linebackers have to remain disciplined and be ready to step up and support, and we can't stress it enough. That's what's going to help contain a guy like Jalen Hurts and Miles Sanders, because you're gonna have to maintain your your mental discipline. More than anything. Their whole goal, their entire goal is to make you think. For that split second, and that split second makes you react in the wrong way or

not react at all. And now you're chasing your breath as far as chasing hurts this direction or that direction. So this is going to be a big test for the linebacker coors as far as can they support the Cowboys defensive line on the edges to stop the run before you throw over the rod p one thing I know we're saying, not interior defensive linement. I'm going to disagree. In this game, the interior defensive linement got to have the game of their life because their centers do so much.

Their center pulls, their center reach block by the way, understood, understood, But they're not going to change their scheme because of right. So it might be a level versus hear you personal this center, but the interior desa no Gallimore Tristan Hill. You have to get vertical because this center is either going to try to reach block you, and if he can reach block you and cut you off, it's easy

to kick a defense in in out. Okay, So if the center can cut off the front side defensive tackle and their right tackle, left tackle whatever it is, can kick out the defensive end, that's usually lined up outside. That's why they're to end. Then you're have your guard working up to that linebacker and now you have holes. So that's why I'm saying, these guys are gonna have to be sure ups up front in the middle. Those guys have to dominate this game. And yeah, real quick

before we live it over there, Quentin Bohanna. Keeping on on Quentin Bohanna as far as to injury report this week because if he can play, that'll be huge. Ye one thing real quick to add to no. See, in the Commanders game, they attack the edges, they burn the edges, and they went at Michael Parsons too, and that's that's that's something to watch too if he's on the edge, because they're trying to wear him down. You're trying to wear him down over the course of the game. Uh.

You mentioned Quentin Bohanna on the eagle side. You mentioned Kelsey. He's playing. He started one hundred and twenty seven straight games. He's gonna play that he's gonna play. But they are banged up. I don't know if we mentioned that Malata Landon Dickerson, Kelsey, there might be an other injury on this offensive line. It seems like it's a theme against the Cowboys defense. But that's something to watch for Philly.

They are not healthy upfront. Yeah, so that's one thing that may be in Achilles Hill, But even then, there's not a whole lot of it. Jaw jaw dropping stat to end us out here on talking Cowboys today. The Eagles are one of two teams since nineteen forty with twelve rushing touchdowns or more or two fewer giveaways in their first five games of the season. The only other team to ever do that was the nineteen sixty Cleveland Browns. The Browns that year were led by quarterback Milt Plum.

That's not a name you're gonna remember. But then you've got two Hall of famers that ran the football that year, Jim Brown and Bobby Mitchell. That was the last team to ever do what the Eagles have done through their first five teams of the first five games of the season, one of two. He's only one of the best ever,

if not the best. They're also the only team in the NFL this season with two players with over two hundred and fifty yards rushing and two rushing touchdowns this year, and that's Hurts and of course in the backfield it's Miles Sanders. So this offense is dangerous, but goodness gracious, so is this defense is also dangerous. So keep that in Mark Scott, all right, that does it for us.

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