Talkin’ Cowboys: Hurting Without Hurts?

Star in Frisco. Happy holidays everybody. As we are turning the page to the Christmas Eve matchup with the Philadelphia Eagles, the Cowboys, welcome it in there. Hated NFC East of Visional foe to AT and T Stadium coming up on Saturday. Don't like him at all. Chris Beam in the back with the extra production work. This morning, we've got Patrick Nose Walker. Yeah, you know Beamer. He just muted it on the program, but he's back there, just still rocking

with it. If people wasn't you're ready for NFL game, like to play a game. I wonder what his pregame ritual will be to listen to ritual? Have one, everybody has one. I'm forty four years ago. I stretched a little bit. That's a good one, coach, you know how that is. Stretching matters. Yeah, that's a good feeling it for a week later. Stretching matters. So And honestly, if you guys don't know what Beam does on game day,

he's running up and down the sidelines already. He's doing some stuffuns according how what would be your pregame ritual? I like to lock in, like listen to music. A little bit of music. You listen to a little bit of everything. Oh so a little jazz, nuh? I mean it's got to be a little harder than jas country. No, I don't think I would listen to like hard country. This is exactly what I listened to that's in the background right now. This is what it'd just be me like,

sitting there with the headphones on. I would be very worried. Now. I think it'd probably be like R and B. What a little R and B, A little wrap R and B. Yeah, honestly, I'm all over the place, dude, I see that. Man, I loved it. What about your expect Well, what I used to do. Yeah, come home, tell the people school, college days, a lot of people, um well, depending on

the sport, but definitely hard rock too. For football, I'd walk the field pregame barefoot, barefoot, so I feel the blaze of grass, kind of get completely into the I think the more we learn about you, Patrick, the more you stepping on a nail one morning makes a lot of sense. Yeah I didn't. I didn't say it didn't make sense that I am so upset with myself. So I will ask why would you do? Because this morning I was like like driving and I'm like, you hunting drop I need to get is the falls back? I

need to get that drop. That's just for this moment. I'm so that's me connecting with the field. So avatar, so you're your avatar, and pre game, I have the headphones zone, I have the music own by the way, that's a really good movie. Yeah, yeah, worked out, but it's not sponsored. So so I walked to the football field bare foot pregame with my headphones zone, and I'd be literally envisioning the plays that I wanted to make in that game. So, you know, because as you think,

you create. So that was my football pre game ritual. I had a different ritual for each sport though. What was yours? I was turned? Yeah, yeah, I was turned. That does not my headphones on, Like I'm in my own zone. I don't really talk to nobody. I've just got my music on my playlist. Is it is random? So you weren't like bippity bopping in around the locker room the same way that you do. Like you do with the pregame studio, we get pretty litt in the

studio pre games. See on air media pregame and on field pre game two totally different things. Yeah, on air media pre game, I'm turning up with all my with my crew. You know what I'm saying. We gotta be linked up. We gotta be a throw things to each other, pick it up. On field, I'm in my own zone. You know I got my I got anything. I got past the Troy, I got a little John, I got come on, man, come on man, you know I got you got t Yeah. I gotta be crawling on the

ground a little bit. And then I go outside and I hit my lap. Okay, I hit my lap around the field, and then I do a back put around the field and I do my shuffles, and I do my whole little you know, active warm up, and then I go in there and I get stretched out and get the chiropractor work okay, and then I get last up and let's go. Let's fancy chiropractor work. You gotta get loose, man, I gotta have loose hips, loose hips and ships. Maybe is that a saying is now? It

is not? Yeah? And all the ship's going on, hey man. So everybody has their pre game. I'm just I'm your jazz and country. Hard country is kind of surprising to me. I didn't say hard country. You said that. I didn't. I would rather say I would say hard rock. Your DMX talking, I had Little John Passage, Troy Dmax, Donnie mclark.

It was It's dark and hell is hot. The intro to you remember you remember Headstrong by Trapped back in the day, you remember Headstrong, I remember his strong Strong with the song little I mean no different, Yeah, different, one different Headstrong. There's a couple of them. DM mixed intro is dark and hell is hot. Every single time you to one to come through, run to run through. I don't know what. And as serious week as this is, I'm gonna I'm gonna go into the locker room and

be like, hey, guys, what's your what's your pregame ritual? Absolutely, what's going on, especially on in your head? Especially speaking of which should it's apropos, because it should be it's dark and hell's hot, get into it. Get speaking of Let's go into some news and notes. Cowboys facing the

Eagles on Saturday. They both hit the practice field yesterday because it technically was like a half day where it was late and the players came in and got a little walk through in, but there was an injury report to kind of pick through. There's walk through from both teams, So take the injury report with a grain of salt. But there are some positives, specifically for the Cowboys Jake Ferguson, who remains in concussion protocol and he did not practice

at all last week. He returned in a limited capacity on yesterday. So progress for Jake Ferguson as he attempts to get cleared from concussion protocol. And I will say there's a side note that is also related to Jake Ferguson that I take it as a side note. So on the practice squad, the Cowboys due to the short term injury to Lvee. They resigned Malik Jefferson to the practice squad, So Malik Jefferson is back to make room from Elie Jefferson. They really Seth Green the tight end.

My thought process is you don't release a tight end from the practice squad if Jake Ferguson is not trending toward possibly playing against the Eagles this week, So kind of keep an eye on that. I think those two things are related as far as Seth Green and Jake Ferguson are concern But Elie Jefferson is back. Jake Ferguson limited durance, Armstrong knee limited nor brown foot, but he

was limited. He did participate. Jay Ron Curse, same shoulder issue he's been dealing with, but he was limited into Marcus Lawrence whole body but no literally foot is what it's listed as limited. He's going to play. Michael Parsons did not participate with guess what fella's illness that the bug just won't completely go away, will not the Cowboys locker room, So keep an eye on Michael Parsons will

see if he participates in practice on today's Wednesday. Yeah, yep, Okay, short weeks, so yeah, during the days off going to the Philadelphia Eagle side of the equation, as expected, Jalen Hurts older Sprain did not participate. Gardner Minsh who did not participate either, but he was excused for personal reasons. I believe he was at the Mike Leach Yeah, I think he was. I believe he's at the mic Leach Memorial Um. But he's expected back in practice on Thursday

or Wednesday. I'm sorry. See the days Zach Pascal concussion protocol. The wide receiver did not participate in Cavana, while it's the safety with a hip injury did not participate. So four dnps for the Eagles, most notably Jalen Hurts the shoulder and it is now officially. We were trying to figure it out because there were conflicting reports yesterday, even though the video was pretty obvious. It's listed on the injury report as right shoulder everywhere, but here it talking

cowboy because we watched the film. So it is official. Boom, it is a shoulder sprain in his throwing shoulder, which exponentially decreases the odds of him taking the field on a short week against the Cowboys. Okay, so today we preview the Cowboys defense versus the Philly offense. They wos one guy potentially in Jalen Hurts. They get one guy back in Dallas Goddard. He is now activated and back

and ready to play against Dallas. So with that being said, how significant is this for the Cowboys or I mean the Cowboys defense Philly offense, but Philly offense is really kind of what I'm leaning toward. How significant is it the fact that they will not have Jalen Hurts? Is he that big of an impact player? Yes he is, Yes he is, and he is that big of an impact player. I'm just asking the question. I'm not I'm not leading. I don't agree, but I mean, so, yes,

he is that great of an impact player. He is that important to that organization, much like a Dak Prescott is that important to the Dallas Cowboys. But much like the Dallas Cowboys, they were able to Dallas was able to get the Doves while while Dak was out. So don't expect the Philadelwi Eagles so just all of a sudden not to be able to find a way to get w's with Jalen Hurts potentially out. These guys are still a threat. These guys are still dangerous, These guys

still have weapons. Right, if this is true, if Jalen Hurts cannot play, then Michael Parsons, you have an opportunity to prove your statements that you had last week. Right when it comes to Jalen Hurts. Here here's a little bit of science as far as his science. Right, this is a guy who has he's the second leading rusher on the team, behind only Miles Center, seven hundred forty seven rushing yards. This that's pretty good in it. That's damn yeah. Science especially that's good for a running back

deep he's a quarterback. He also has thirteen rushing touchdowns, leads the teams in rushing touchdown. Yeah, that's all just through fourteen weeks. Weeks, ye're just averaging almost a touchdown a game, almost a rushing touchdown a game. And that's not to mention what he does in the passing game with a J. Brown and Devantae Smith and you know Dallas Godard, whin Dallas Goddard was on the field with him.

So to answer your question and simply put yes, Jalen Hurts is infinitely more valuable to what the Eagles have done than Dallas Goddard's return with being that's why the Eagles continue to win without Dallas Goddard. Not to say they don't need Dallas Goddard because obviously he's a playmaker as well. Yeah, but if you're weighing the two against each other, the loss of Hurts wildly outweighs the readdition

of Dallas Goddard. But like Aziah said, this is a Cooper Rush scenario for the Philadelphia Eagles, which is it's just poetic justice, right because the Eagles beat up on Cooper Rush for three interceptions and one day game, and now in the rematch, the Cowboys will likely be up against the Eagles back up, and let's see what the Cowboys can do against the Eagles back up. But Garden Missue, like Cooper Rush is serviceable if we need some games

and he's got the weapons. If there wasn't video of Jalen Hurts getting hurt, like if there wasn't like a clear play where you could say, oh, yeah, yeah, Jalen Hurts a little banged up, and then watch the rest of the game and it's like, oh yeah, he's a little banged up playing through it, I would think this would be total game and gamesman's ship from Philly, and it still might be. Who knows. I don't think it is,

but it might be. There's like a point one percent chance you're seeing but shit, you think about it, you're thinking, like you said poetic Justice, Cooper Rush was there the first time around. Now it's Gardner Minshew and this is gonna be great. And then Jalen Hurts trots out there on Saturday. He's ready to roll like that would that would blow my mind. That'd be such a Philly thing to do. So I think Jalen Hurts is a difference maker because of a couple of reasons. One, he takes

care of the football. Secondly, he provides an element to that offense that isn't necessarily there without him. But where is the drop off? Most notable between Jalen Hurts and Gardner Minshew, Isaiah, because you mentioned it yesterday, you like Minshew? Do you like him as a quarterback as a guy who comes in and is serviceable. If you can do a lot of different things, that makes you great if you're good, where is the drop off? Because Gardner Minshew is in Jalen Hurts for a reason, you know, I

mean versatility. You talk about not only confidence within the organization and within the roster, trusting him to be able to execute, make plays and things of that nature. You know, and then you have to look at the scheme. What is their scheme? RPO zone read those types of things. Can Minshew do that? I'm sure he can. Can he do it to that level? No? I mean you know what's say. I mean, anybody can really run that stuff. He's athletic enough to run the RPO A type offense.

I'm gonna say their gardner Minshew is athletic enough to run that offense. Is he going to run it to the same level of a Jalen Hurts, Absolutely freaking knot. So that is why there's a huge drop off there. Can he make those same throws that Jalen Hurts can make? Absolutely not. He doesn't have that strong of an arm. He's not as accurate as him. He is a backup quarterback for a reason. He's been that in everywhere every

stuff that he's made. That's no disrespect He's still one of the best in the world, just not a starter in the league. I believe that when I say, when we talk about the worst serviceable, I think there's some guys that are serviceable, and I think that there's some guys that are serviceable, but you can still run your offense. I think Dallas had to change their offense with Cooper

Rush at the quarterback position. I don't think that Philadelphia changes their offense that drastically with Gardener Menshoe at quarterback. Now are they going to ask him to run the ball as much? Are they gonna tell him that, hey, you have the full availability to pull this thing whenever you want to. I don't think he's gonna have as much freedom nowhere near it, probably, But I think that they're still gonna keep the identity of their offense. So, yes,

you're looking at a different quarterback. Yes, you're looking at somebody who's not as capable. But I think, like I said, I'm gonna keep going back to the statement Michael May because he made it right. He said that Jalen Hursts is only only noticeable because of the fact that he has all the talent around him. Well here's your chance. Yeah, we're finding it out right. Well, for me, it's it's everything as as said, you know, period, I mean exclamation point.

He nailed it on all points point number one. Primarily, it's it's the rushing attack. There's a huge difference there. So while you will probably see a couple of RPOs because Menshoe does have enough athleticism to run them. If you're the Cowboys defense, if you're any defense going against Gardon Men's shoe versus Jalen Hurts, are you afraid that

he's going to take it to the house. No, you are deathly afraid that Jalen Hurts is gonna make somebody miss and end up turning that, you know, three yard third down conversion into a sixty five yard touchdown because it can happen and then in the air, like Isaiah so eloquently said, while Gardner Minshue can make all the throws, he doesn't have the arm strength, he doesn't have the

cannon that Jalen Hurts has. So it's just it creates a situation where the dynamic of the level of threat that Jalen Hurts presents it's just simply not presenting in Gardner Minshue. I don't I don't think that the Eagles will change their playbook, but I could see similar to what the Cowboys did with Cooper Rush, they put a cap why, they scaled it back quite a bit, So that's going to that should ideally theoretically make it easier for the Cowboys to skiing because they don't have to

scheme as much of the Eagles playbook. So again, advantage Cowboys with an asterisk. Gardner Minshue can still win you games, and he still has a lot of weapons around him. Yep. You got to prepare the same way whether it's Jalen Hurts or Gardner Minshew. And this defense has a lot of things, a lot of things that they have to fix from week fifteen into week sixteen. We're gonna start

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Cowboys dot Com. A fanatics experience and score a holiday shopping winning touchdown. We gotta get beam ro a DJ dropped like gangster grills or I like the beat, then do it like a like it's an air horn. Uh, did you guys hear about this story? Oh yeah, yeah, Isaiah just handed it to me. But I think it's really corny. Eagles sent thirty five cheese steaks to Doug Peterson and the Jacksonville Jaguars for beating the Cowboys Sunday. They did, they did, they did fire that guy, but

here's some chee steaks. Yeah, we're being five. I think it was I don't know why thirty five because they couldn't afford more. It was a staff member that sent because they couldn't afford more. So that might be right, honestly, But the the thought process there said, of course that Jags did the Eagles a favor, which is true, they did the Eagles a favorite. But I thought absolutely they did.

But Twitter hold me that you know from Eagles fans, Yeah, that they're not thinking about the car, they don't think about they don't think about the couple. They don't know. And then oh, okay, I get it. You're a lame get after Patrick, You're lame I love it when Patrick takes his Twitter drama and brings it onto the show. It's one of my favorite things ever. Cornballs just corn balls, right, all right, corn balls, stay away from the back of horses.

Focus on that. Goodness, they know what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, goodness, gracious, Um, where's the biggest improvement needed on this defense going into Saturday afternoon? From week fifteen to week sixteen? Where do you want to see the defense take the next step this week? Secondary just gotta be the secondary. Um, you want the run defense to short self back up. But what I will say is, more often than not, since the Green Bay game, the run defense has showed up.

Now we'll see, you know, how they try to replace the production of LV. We'll see how that works. But I'm more inclined to look at that secondary outside of Trevon digs Well, more specifically the cornerback position, because I

like what the safeties are doing. So if you look at CB two in that role specifically, that's the Achilles heel right now, that particular question mark cost the Cowboys at least two touchdowns against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and you take away just one of those touchdowns and the Cowboys win this game, let alone take away two of them, and now it's an open competition, as it should be. But now the question mark becomes okay, well, first it

was can Calvin Joseph do it? So it looks like he's struggling in that, so they opened up the competition. So now the question mark shifts over to which one of you guys can do it? Right? So, if it's not going to be Kelvin, you're looking at the Seawan right, possibly Israel mcquamo. You're looking at McKinsey, Alexander, you're looking at treyvon Mulling, you're looking at Kendall Sheffield, and you're saying, hey,

one of you guys show me something. Otherwise the Cowboys might be in a position where they might have to do what they don't want to do, which is moved to Ron Bland to the outside and blank and play outside. But then it leaves you exposed at the nickel. Yeah, so you don't want to move to round. You want to solve the problem at CB two. So for me, that's it CB two. Okay. I like it. Secondary is a big one. I respect it. I'm not gonna agree. I'm going with the Yeah, I'm going with a defensive online.

We have to this run defense. This run defense was a problem before. Who before who showed up? Hankins, Hankins showed up. You gave up two undred yards, You gave up two hundred yards right against Green Bay. And then you go out there and you grab a Johnathan Hankins and you come out in the first game had two hundred. But after that it was like nineteen seventy eight something like that against some of the best backs in the league. I think teams were afterging less than ninety yards per game.

When after after one week after Hankins showed showed up into Dallas, Okay, so he had an impact, an extreme impact. All of a sudden, Johnathan gets Hankins gets hurt, and what happens one hundred and ninety two yards on the ground. Okay. So if you can't stop the run against Philadelphia, I don't care who's that quarterback. Anybody can hand up ball off. Anybody can hand the ball off. So yes, yes, the secondary definitely needs to be addressed, and that's definitely something

that we have to scheme up. I think you can

scheme it up. I think al Harris can ask us guys to get up there and be more physical than the line of scrimmage so that they don't have the opportunity to get downfield, or that that timing is at least disrupted, which and then then turn gives your defense a front time to get in the backfield and get to the quarterback regardless of who's throwing the ball, and it gives you opportunity to get tip balls because they're gonna be more contested because your guys are all over

them like sticky Rice. Okay, so I think that that's an opportunity. But I think that the defense up front, if you any team, especially in Philadelphia, if they're allowed to sit back If Gardener Missue is a quarterback, he's allowed to sit back there and hand the ball off, and no matter who he hands it off to, they

get yardage. You're in a world of trouble. I like it in real quick at this And going back to your question Kyle about the drop off between Jalen Hurts and Garden Missue, Well, guess what, now you don't have to even remotely worry about worrying about putting the spy on Garden Missue, which now frees up a guy like Donovan Wilson to be able to help and run support as opposed to dropping down with the sole purpose of trying to figure out what direction Jayala Harris is going.

So now you have that extra guy that you can kind of done and run. So that I like that, and based off of both of your answers, it actually goes to the point that there are multiple parts of this defense that have to improve. Because you said secondary, you said run defense, I would even be inclined. I think I would agree with secondary, maybe a little bit, because that's something that needs to be fixed, but I

would throw the pass rush in there too. From week fifteen to week sixteen, this is supposed to be the strength of your team. This supposed to be an unstoppable force, whether it's Micah or Drance or d Law. And I know some of those guys are banged up, and I know teams are scheming to go against those guys by getting the ball out quick or by running the misdirection. That type of stuff. You have to be better at those.

Set the edge, get around, get home. It's so I don't disagree with you, but I disagree with you in a sense that a pass rush is only you can only take advance of the opportunities that presented to you, which is which is if team you Yeah, if teams are dropping back right, you're talking about in the five step drops, seven step drops or from the gun three step drops, five step drops right from the gun, you have time to get back there. You have time to

beat the guys up front. But if you don't have time, if you don't have two seconds to get in the backfield, you're not You can't get sacks, which puts the pressure on which unit the second are. Absolutely unless there's no there's no need for a pass rush at all, because there's no passes. You know, you don't saying what I'm saying. So now you're running the ball. If you're if you can't stop a team from running the ball, they're simply

handing it off to anybody. I don't care who's in the back A J. Brown, It doesn't matter whoever wants to get the ball Sanders and then guess what comes off of that play action. It's what works for a privilege. Yeah, pass rush is a privilege. So I don't disagree with you that that we need to get home. But teams have ever since, every since the first Philly, every since the first Philadel. Sure they know how to stop this pass rushing and if I'm a OC, I'm not letting

you get back there time. Kind of playing to my point though, where when Jacksonville was running the football and when teams outside of that or after that Philadelphia game have been running the football? Where have they been most successful in doing so? Outside the tackles getting to the edge misdirection. I think the bigger plays come there. I don't think that that's solely where teams are going. I

think that's where they go. Well, they're not solely going, yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, but there were fifty nine yards on plays like that out of the one ninety two, I don't disagree with you. And then the rest of there was like thirty from scrambles, there was some other things that kind of makes in between. They think the bigger plays come on the outside, so they're highlighted more

so they stick out more in your mind. But the more effective place, right, the ones that beat you down are the setups or are their battle rams right down the middle. Those are the four yards, right, the ones that you okay, whatever, right, the money they hurt it, right, So four yards four yards, three yards right, four yards, and it just beat you up about five yards, okay, and then guess what. Now I'm going to the outside. Now, everybody says, focused on the inside. Now I'm gonna beat

you up on the outside. I'm gonna get to the edge pulling guard is pulling tackles, pulling both of them. And now I'm have my big chunk play. And then guess what, come right back to the middle. Right, I'm do the boring, boring, boring, boring, boring. The same thing with TP and Zeke. Yeah, right, Zeke gets the boring plays. He gets the boring plays, the four yards and the cloud it does. Nobody thinks twice about those. Nobody gives him credit for those. Right. That's why Skip Pete comes

walking to the locker room laughing. Talk about how you like that, because he's like, this dude beat you up, right, and then guess what then, oh crap, the bolt of lightning, right, Chauzam comes in and he hits you on the outside. Now that's yeah, that's the one that you remember. Everybody remembers the TP, the big fifty forty fifty sixty yard run. Yeah, but nobody wants to think about Zeke doing Black Adam. Yeah, here for getting Black Adam. There's too many comic books

now they got fired? Did you know that? Too many? Did you know Superman got I don't have that conversation, So I don't want to have that conversation. How are you gonna have an appearance in black because he got fired? They don't get parted? Ways, don't get me started in part ways. I know, I know what it was. They brought him back and then James Gunn has now taken over with dc you when James Gunn's version of the DCU would not include which sucks. But Cavo had the

agreement with the previous regiment. Must have found the kryptonite, must have found it somewhere. It's in a clause the dude, I was a hard note was a touch point for you there, Let's not talk about let's talk talk about the son of it. But shouts out to Henry, we still have the witcher my friend, you always have the Witchery. That's my Superman's technically, Chris Reeves is my Superman. What

do you think about the conversation though? In terms of outside running attack and then the inside game because it does differ. I agree with Isaiah and the fact that the big plays have come on the outside. There's been these end a rounds, these misdirections. But you've got to get better at setting the edge right. I mean, Dlaw has been really good at it all year long. It's not a setting of the and and so here here's it's not a set of because the edges are getting

set right, edges and understand people need to understand. Is you know you understand this? Who We watch a lot of film together. Yeah, but edges get set. If you want to just just classify its okay, let's bottle it up right, Let's make sure nobody gets outside. Then what happens those pulling guards, those pulling tackles, those tight ends that are coming around and whand blocks, they're literally just kicking out that containment. Yeah, you can contain it all

day long. Cool, stay out. I'm gonna kick you out right. You want to stay on the outside and look at everything down the line. I will send a two hundred and sixty two or three hundred and thirty pound man and he will just help you wash you out to that side. And he guess what, we will go inside of you and it will get right back outside. So the whole containment thing is it's relative. It's yeah, very relative. So here's the problem. The problem is right now going

into week sixteen. Right, you're both correct, But prior to this, prior to the Jacksonville jack Wars, the main issue for the run defense was setting the edge. We talked about this at nauseum. Right. It wasn't that teams were having success, and I feel you as far as the setup plays up the A and B gaps, and teams would try that, but it wouldn't be as effective as they would like those effective plays to be, which is why they kept

protecting the edges. But when you look at this next gen stats chart, and I'll turn this around for the one shot, this is Travis et N. This is Travis Etn. That's pretty good. Do you see this, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, he won everywhere he went up to A gap, he went up to B gap, he won outside. The only time he lost was the fumble. But that fumble wasn't forced, No,

just dropped the just drop the football. So if he actually successfully takes that hand off, he probably gets a gainer on there and there would be no TFLs on this chart middle, mid to outside or outside. So to to you guys's point this week, the entirety of the defensive line needs to make sure it's stepping up. The linebackers need to make sure they're selling the edges as well. So both of those things are a problem coming out

of Jacksonville. I don't know that i'd say, because it's happened just once out of all of their run defense issues, so it's not consistently enough for me to say, oh, it's the middle. I still believe Nevill Gallum or Chauncey Ghost and OsO Diggi Zul who's having a great day a great season. Quentin Bohanna now that he's back, I think this is gonna be his third game back, getting

his legs. I think the interior will be better against this team that doesn't have Jalen Hurts to contend with, But the linebacker corps is still going to be a concern without Lvee. That said, when you say, Kyle very accurately, that teams are getting the ball out quickly, quicker, quicker quickly to kind of negate your pass rush secondary and be it trusting these guys like you saw Trevon Diggs pressing guys and you see Duran Bland pressing guys. But the lack of trust at CB two has you pulling

guys back. Well, when you give that guy that kind of space, now you're helping that West Coast style where it's like drop back two steps by. Okay, Well, get these guys up there and challenge your young guys to say, hey, man, just be better than this guy. Be better than this guy, because you're not being tested secondary wise in that point. If you're getting the ball out quick, that means as you're having to cover for three or four seconds less than you would at any other point in the ball game.

So if you have young guys like to Ron Bland, like Kelvin Joseph out there, and of course we've already talked to Dan Quinn this week, he's saying it's an open competition. There's going to be pressure on them to get the job done, but it shouldn't be as hard as some of the other coverages you'll have to run as a young dp B. So it's a conversation to be had where does the defense need to step up when we come back here on Talking Cowboys. Where does

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challenge followed by Dak Prescott through January eighth. Go out there and vote dat vote him. Happy Holidays, everybody, I love DJ Chris Beam in the back, just spinning the tracks, Isaiah stand back, Patrick, No c Walker, the unmatched Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's Gentlemen, we got a couple more minutes here, Isaiah. You watch the film as much as anybody where does. Philly challenge you the most offensively. Misdirection, misdirection the read. Everybody since Philly has

hurt Dallas or tried to hurt Dallas, hurts Dallas. Misdirection. Everybody's attempted it. Everybody doesn't have the personnel, everybody doesn't have the scheme because it's too far outside of what they typically do. But since Philadelphia in the misdirection and what it did to this pass rush, that's where they hurt you, and they make you stop your feet. You can't come down heel in the ring game, you can't. You can't get a pass rush, You can't do containment right.

All the everything that you would do to combat what they do hurt you because it leaves you vulnerable for something else. You want to get containment running up inside, right, you want to go ahead and god and attack the rundown the side. Okay, we'll throw it out to the side, okay, or if you guess what you don't want to you don't want to put any pressure on us, cool, we'll throw it around. We got enough receivers. So they hurt

you in so many areas. But I think Dallas's biggest touch point has been where to hecked you my eyes go in the moment I stopped my feet to try to figure out what the heck is going on. Now my feet are stopped, their feet are still moving. They have the leverage no matter where I'm gonna try to attack. For me, it's it's similar to that in the aspect of misdirection. But the Eagles they love making you second

guess and then making you second guess. All they need is that window of reaction time to get the big

play or the big gainer. And that's where I feel like, going back to the question of you know, what's the drop off between Jalen Hurts and Gardner Minshew is what will potentially help this this young secondary for the Cowboys is the fact that you can play more traditional, straight up football against Gardner Minshew because you don't have to worry about covering your guy while trying to also keep one eye in the backfield just in case Jalen Hurts

leaks out to try to extend a big play. Now again, Gardner Minshew, he can get out of that pocket and make the play. But that's no longer your primary thought. Your primary thought is I'm going to cover this guy.

I'm going to trust my front seven to get after Gardner Minshue, whereas if it was Jalen Hurts back there, it's okay, I still trust my front seven, but I know that there's a good likelihood that Jalen Hurts, with his speed and his strengths, can either just blow off the edge or he can escape a sack and then come off the edge. So while I'm sitting here trying to cover this guy who I'm trying to keep in my hip and he's moving all over the place, I'm

also trying my head. I'm splitting two different directions. That's what the Eagles typically can do, and that's why they're thirteen and one. But it also answers the question of what they may not be able to do if Jalen Hurts is not on the field, as we don't expect he will be, Dallas can be more aggressive if Jalen

Hurts isn't there. So the non commit traditional, the non committal to going downhill and coming out of the quarterback and having to make your reads on all that, if Jalen Hurts isn't there, you're more opt to be aggressive to come downhill, to go out there and attack whoever's that quarterback, because all of a sudden, you're not worried about him getting outside of your leverage and making you pay for the big play. That's facts. So do you

expect a better game then from the Dallas defense? Do you respect a little bit of a rebound, because at least from the early indications from what we're hearing on the other side of the building is they're not happy with the way they played these last two weeks. They are not happy at all, nor should they be if

we're being honest. However, is this the week where you see the rebound or are we going to see another I was hoping to see the rebound regardless, I thought, regardless of who's that quarterback, I would hope that Dallas would have a better game against Philly than they've had over the past few weeks, or even then when they had the first time that they that they've faced the Eagles.

So my expectation is the same, I guess, but if Jalen Hurts is not there, I expect them to be more dominant than what they would be regardless of which quarterback is or was going to take the field. I expected to bounce back from the Cowboys, because you you have to bounce back from allowing five hundred yards and thirty four points. You have to you have to do it. Uh. And this is also a Cowboys team that I've said it before. They've not lost two consecutive games at all

this season. Uh, there's only you know all the Eagles are one of the only other teams that can make that claim. So this is a team that has shown it can be resilient, and I believe that it was going to happen this game regardless of who the QB was. Now, the question is, to to Isaiah's point, what kind of a bounce back are we talking about? Are we talking about only allowing you know, three hundred yards? Are we

talking about only allowing two twenty five? Oh, that's dominant. Yeah, you see what I'm saying, Like, that's that's what I'm asking. I'm asking what kind of what kind of bounce back? Is it a solid bounce back where you look at them and say, okay, still some question marks, but they rebounded,

they got some things together. All we're talking about just they're so pissed and they go all the way from the left side of the field, which is thirty four points allowed five hundred plus yards to three to seven. I don't hold these guys on under three hundred yards offense, Yeah, I don't. I don't think this under three hundred would be a monument that's with Hurts. Monument with Hurts. I don't think you could. But I don't think it's that much of a drop off. I really don't. I think it.

Hurts is a good quarterback, don't get me wrong. Formidable versus serviceable, see, but I don't think he's formidable. I don't think he's that good. Jaylen. No, and as a total pack, I think he's got a built roster around him. I think Jaylen Hurts is a good quarterback. You are he is not in the elite? Huh. You believe what Michael Parker said, Yeah, I agree, I agree. I disagree. Okay, Well, but I scouted him coming out of college and I

felt like that back then too. We can take the individual, because I'm saying I don't believe he's elite, but they get the individual, formidable form of individual in this system, and that's where people get lost. People get so keyed in on the on the player and their skills said and what they can do as a person and say, Okay, this person in any system would not be in. But we're not talking about any sense. We're talking about in this offense. Yeah, he's a complete problem. And I don't

think he's a true system quarterback either. I think he helps make the system what it is. I think he's a good enough player to where he makes a difference. But I just don't think the drop off from Jalen Hurts to Gardner Minshew is monumental. I don't think it's it's a big deal. Big it is. It is a big deal. That's what I'm trying to say. I'm not I'm not trying to take away what Jalen Hurts has done.

I'm trying to limit the what's the bigger drop off DAC to Cooper Rush or Jalen Hurts de Minsheu Jalen Hurst Demenshu. Yeah, I think so too. Yes, I don't know. I would. I would yes because of style of play alone. If you look at nothing but style of plays fair, then it's the bigger Okay, that's fair because it's a different style of play completely. Whereas Cooper Rush has spent seven years in this organization, he's been around for long

enough to where the playbook doesn't drop off. You can play a similar style as Dak Prescott without the legs. I mean, I would agree with that. Here's here's a fun question. I'm just I don't think it's as far apart as people think, though I don't think it's gargantic, but it's still a big I mean, you could used to wear a big it's a big drop off. Here's a question, just fun. I'm curious about you guys, think UM better overall player Jalen Hurts in twenty twenty two

or prime RG three. I'm bold so Prime RG three was this rookie season where he was he was bawling the Rookie of the year RG three. I'm the wrong person. I'm the wrong person. As ACT three was my favorite player. That was my favorite collegiate player of all time. I love watching Margie three. Okay, time behind as stand back back in the day, I was a Baylor fane. I'm not saying he's the best. I'm saying he was my favorite. Yeah,

that's different, different conversation. Reggie Bush was unbelievable. Yeah he was up there too, and I didn't even like USC. But that's how good Reggie Bush was. Just so you guys know, the least amount of yards that Dallas has given up all year long has been two hundred and thirty nine yards. That was against the Rams. Okay, so you're saying this about Tom They're due. Answer? Why are you making me answer this question? I want to hear it. I'm curious RG three in his rookie season. What about

you better as a player. I didn't pay that much attention to him, And be honest with you, really, yeah, actually that was a false statement. Two hundred and fifty four yards against the Bengals. I'm sorry. Okay, So they're due and still do for a big game. Right before we get out of here, guys, I wanted to pass along our condolences to the family of the Steelers and NFL legend. Franco Harris passed away this morning, known for the Immaculate Reception, passed away at seventy two. And it

was interesting. I was looking yesterday they're the debuting A Football Life, the documentary series on the NFL network about Franco Harris on Friday, and he passed away this morning, and it was it was nearly about the debut and he was a legend for many reasons. I know this is a Cowboys podcast, but that's an NFL legend. That's a football titan, no doubt, absolutely, and some I mean, one of the most incredible plays in NFL history was

because of what he was able to do. If you're a fan of football, at a certain point, rivalries getting pushed aside for the greatness of players, and Franco Harris

is one of those guys, no doubt, no doubt. But I just wanted to mention that before we get out of here, because you know, Steelers Nation, Steelers family out there, they're they're hurting a little bit today on that one, because I was the entire Harris family, Steelers organization, and just everyone, whether you had the plays, you were being in Franko's presence or not, you knew what kind of a human being he was, even outside of a football player, and as a football player, he was a titan. So

no doubt. All right, let's move on to tomorrow. We're gonna preview the Cowboys offense versus the Philly defense. What kind of rebound can the Cowboys with Dak Prescott and company have in that matchup? We'll talk about it tomorrow. We do not have a show on Friday, so no shows Friday, so we're gonna do our pick ms tomorrow as well to get the job done. I'm sorry, Isaiah, why are you looking to me? I want to work, Kyle.

I know you do. I want to work too, But no shows on Friday, but we will be back tomorrow with a sale with your chess. Thursday a rarity on Talking Cowboys for Chris Beam, Djaba Beamer in the back for Patrick Nose Walker, Isaiah stand back. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the start in Fresco. We'll see tomorrow on Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.