Talkin' Cowboys: How Will Dalton Do?

We break things down with this Dallas Cowboys organization, and we're gonna unleash the beast when it comes to breaking down those Arizona Cardinals as they come to town on Monday night. But you're on Talking Cowboys. Heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, isa stand back, I'm Kyle Yelmans and guys, it's it's a fun week because we finally I feel like this is the week we finally get to see

who this Dallas Cowboys team really is. And I know a lot of fans will immediately kind of say, but what do you mean, Kyle, We have a quote unquote backup quarterback. I still think that Andy Dalton should be considered a starting quarterback in the NFL, but you have

a backup quarterback in for Dak Prescott. However, whenever you look at the teams that the Cowboys have played, and the Cowboys and the team that the Arizona Cardinals are, this is the first time you could really look at an opponent and say they're not a contender, and they're not oh and five. At the same time, I mean, they're not winless teams. Whenever you talk about the wins and losses that the Cowboys have had, rob and I know whenever you look at the Cardinals specifically, there are

a ton of tough matchups. But at three and two, this is a team that I think could really be susceptible and allow us to get an accurate look at how this roster is built out. That's a good point. I hadn't thought about that. You know, it's not it's not the Falcons and it's not Seattle, so it's somewhere in between. I think it comes down to it's gonna come down to which defense shows up and is more consistent, because I think the Cardinals defense has been more consistent

than the Cowboys. I think any defense in the league just about has been in terms of where they stand statistically. But that game they lost a couple of weeks ago to Carolina Man, they got shredded. They got shredded in yards, they got shredded in points, and without Chandler Jones, It'll be interesting to see how the Cowboys can can match up against it. We're gonna get into that, but defensively, which team brings it more is going to make the difference,

I think in week Week six. Yeah, my thoughts, My thoughts on this game are going to all revolve around turning the fall over and if we can correct those mistakes, we will probably put ourselves in any ball game versus any opponent. It's the it's just those self inflicted things that we've done over the course of the last five games, and it's turnovers on our side of the field that have all been points for the for the other team. So limiting those are going to help us a lot.

And obviously with Andy Dalton, we're going to have to modify our game plan. And I'm not saying dumb it down. I just believe it's going to be a modified game plan in order to give us some success on offense. Yeah, I'm gonna keep leaning on the fact of the type of possession, right, And I know it kind of goes hand in hand with a lot of different aspects of the game. But Rob alluded to the defense. I'm a

big component of obviously, defense really controlling the game. And as long as we can keep this offense off the field and we can remain on the field, we win that time possession, and that's exactly what we need to do. I see that Arizona has had the ball, you know, almost twenty nine minutes every game, on average of twenty nine minutes, and we have not had that. We we have not been there. We've We've lost every every game

I think in a time of possession aspect. And that's something that we have to turn around this game if we want to win. I win and looked it up, Isaiah. The Cowboys are thirty first in average time of possession. I think it's like twenty six. Opponents are averaging the having the ball seven more minutes a game than the Cowboys. That's that's ridiculous. And if you the only team worse is the Jets. So if you're in the Giants are

right there, Washington's right there. Those are three teams you don't want to be right next to really in any stat So you're right, they've they've got to and it ties into turnovers. Like Hekma said, two more last week, you lose the turnover battle again, but yet you win the game. So that's not going to happen too often. They've got to clean it up. And we mentioned it yesterday, and I think Heckma brought up a fantastic point about Kyler Murray and the fact that Kyler Murray will turn

the football over. He's thrown six interceptions already and he's at eight touchdown passes, so that touchdown interception ratio not as bad as what we saw with Daniel Jones last week from the Giants perspective, but this is still a quarterback that's going to force some mistakes and it's gonna put you in a situation as a defense to take advantage.

The Cowboys did take advantage last week with de Marcus Lawrence and the scoops scoop and score from Anthony Brown as well, But whenever you look at the teams that the Cowboys have beaten, a combined oz and ten. That's really a statistic that I think a lot of people might already know because of how bad the Giants and the Falcons have been. But you look at the teams

they've lost to are a combined thirteen and two. Right now, when you talk about the Browns, the Seahawks, and of course the season opener against the Los Angeles Rams, but then the Arizona Cardinals who come in at three and two, the teams that they have beaten are a combined three and twelve. So, Isaiah, whenever you look at preparation from week to week in the NFL, the saying is, hey, let's our next opponent, It's going to be that same

kind of mentality. But whenever you have a team that's coming in that like Rob said, it is somewhere in between a Falcons or a Giant, in between a Seahawks or Browns. How does that change your week of preparation as a player. It doesn't change it at all. You know, I've never been a real big stat guy. I'm a big believer in you know, every week it's a new week, right It's a new opponent, and every team matches up

differently against other teams. That's just facts, right, Personnel versus personnel, scheme versus scheme. So yeah, I could look at my record and say, Okay, we lost, we lost to the Rams, we lost to the Seahawks, you know, but guess what, you know, we might we might match up pretty well against the Cardinals. Right. It just really comes down to position, positions of play, and then obviously it's schemes. So I mean, I don't put much weight on previous records or any

of that stuff. You better show up and play every week in this league. The only the only stat that doesn't ever seem to lie is the turnover battle. Yea, absolutely, the last I think the Cowboys in the last year's a stat, but it's turnover stat. In the last twenty years,

they've had a negative turnover ratio eleven times. They missed the playoffs ten out of eleven years, and the only year they didn't miss it, they were right, you know, they were in position actually when they had a positive turnover ratio just about every year they made the playoffs. When they didn't, it was those eight and eight years with Garrett when they were right last week of the

season trying to win the division. So yeah, you know, maybe with Dalton, maybe they're they're going, like Heckma said, they're gonna try to be a little bit more balanced and try to do some things where they're not putting in some of its scoreboard related but not putting your offense in a position where were your turnover risky. You know, they got to clean that part of it up. I guess, I guess the good news is I think the Cardinals are are negative for right now on the turnover ratio,

so that's that's a positive. Yeah, And Kyle, I just wanted to say, you know, it's an old boxing term. Styles make fights, and the Cowboys have been looking for that style that matches this, that they can have dominance. We thought we were gonna have that with in the Cleveland game versus their running game, and man did they

show us with their running game. We also thought the same thing with the Giants are X coming in and we surrender thirty four points to Giant to the Giants, so we're not in a position to overlook anyone, especially when you're giving up one hundred and sixty points in the last four games. I mean, my D I S D math may not be that good, but that's about

forty points a game. And when you look at that ratio and you talk about us making history by still winning two of those games after giving up close to forty points. Man, those are the things that have to be corrected. Now. I talk about the turnovers, and those are very important because you put your defense at a disadvantage. But at some point we are going to have to take advantage of the matchups that we have on our side as far as defensively are offensively, to take advantage

of these games so that we can break these games open. Basically, it's what I'm trying to say. We just haven't been in a situation like that because every game we play

has been a track meet. It's been a track making and I think this one will have an opportunity to be a track meet as well as Today, of course being Thursday, we're going to break down the Cowboys offense against the Arizona defense, and that Arizona defense guy has had a huge blow and I mentioned it yesterday when the breaking news came down as three time Pro Bowler, two time first team All Pro Chandler Jones is out

for the season for the Cardinals at linebacker. Injured his right arm during the first half of last Sunday's win against the Jets. But whenever you miss a guy like that, This guy who had nineteen sacks a year ago only had one sack this year, but he was once again just a presence in that front seven for Arizona. But hecklo, whenever there's not a guy like that across the line of scrimmage, how much easier does it make it for a guy like Andy Dalton coming in as first week

as a starter for the Cowboys. Well, yeah, obviously he's going to be a noted miss, notable miss for the Cardinals. But at the same time they have some dudes still number ninety eight, Corey Peters, he's a presence in the middle, and he's a guy that does push the pocket. So um, I think when when it's not we're not at the point as a team where if there's a guy missing, okay, we could take advantage of this, We're still gonna have

our word cutout for us. I mean, Angelo Blackson, number ninety six, he's got six six, three hundred and forty pounds. So look, I know, Jones being you know, the injury does kind of say, okay, we have it a little bit easy because we don't have that dog up front. But nah, not really. Uh and especially on the back end, man, their secondary is strong and well we'll get into that. But guy's like Budda Baker and Pat Pe. Look, this is gonna be a challenge for our offense no matter

how you frame it. Yeah, it could be. It could be looked at as a gift, or it could be looked at as a curse. Right, because you think about it from a defensive defensive coordinator's perspective, as soon as you lose your number one pass rusher, what's the first

thing that you're gonna do to apply pressure. You're gonna blitz. Blitz. Yeah, I'm gonna blitz, right, And these guys have the they have the personnel in the secondary in order to blitz and not sacrifice, you know, the ability to cover somebody. So these guys can stay on you, man to man, they will get in your face. They will they will stay in your hit pocket the entire route and enforce

a very contested catch. So with that being the case, if I'm a defensive coordinare okay, my guys can can cover. So guess when I'm gonna send him. Now I don't have my guy that could bring pressure just on that one side, So now I'm sitting my dogs. Now you have matchup problems on the offensive line in a tight end and a running back front because you're bringing guys from the front of the second level when you bring

guys from the secondary as well to create pressure. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see how they adjust without without Chandler Jones, because you know they've got Zach Allen there as as a down lineman, but maybe he could he could switch into more of that outside role. Hassan Reddick. They've got a guy guard Deck who's got two sacks, who's kind of stepped up for them. But aside from that Carolina game hight reference, they didn't get any pressure

on Teddy Bridgewater at all. Besides that game, they've been pretty good in terms of kind of across the board, getting some pressure the middle pressure with Jordan Phillips Corey Peters. As Heckma mentioned, I think they've got fourteen sacks on the year, So yeah, I think to Isaiah's point, they

feel like they probably can get pressure. They could be selective with their blitzes, but they might be able to you know, hold things down where they don't have to sacrifice their secondary on the back end and or trust those guys to do that without having to give him help back there. And we'll talk about the secondary coming

up here in just a little bit. But of course, Kingsbury, and addressing Chandler Jones's absence, said he wasn't sure whether Vans Joseph, the defensive coordinator for Arizona, is actually going to make a single replacement for Jones at that outside linebacker spot, or it'll be a rotation with Fitz guard deck like Rob just mentioned, and also Reddick in there as well. There's a couple of guys that could fill

that spot. But whenever you talk about that front seven and the pressure they put even without Chandler Jones being in the fold, and Isaiah, I know you've you've been critical of this offensive line that has played better over the last couple of weeks, But how do you feel like they match up specifically against the tackles on the outside. I think they match up okay right now. Honestly, I think I think they're okay. I think I'm more concerned with that internal, uh defensive line and the type of

signs that they have up there. They're they're able when you watch them on the films, they're able to get some really good push um against there against the posting offensive line. So that's probably more of my concern than

it is more so the edge rush um. And honestly, that presents a bigger issue for us because you know, because we have a Ricky in there as well, um, and you know we have him, we have Connor Williams, both of those guys who are a little light um lighting the butt as I would say, for interior alignment. So um, that's probably the biggest challenge. But in terms of our tackles and with the issues that we've been having in that regard, m I actually feel okay, yeah.

And you know, for me, when I look at uh Zack Martin in the middle, I think he helps us tremendously at what you're alluding to, Isaiah, because he's the guy that you know next to be honest, which bey honest man is he's putting it out there man, and he is a oh he's going after people. I love what the rookie is doing. So I feel confident with that. I mean, Connor isn't going to be by himself and

they'll be able to get him some some help. But you know they're gonna be the way that Arizona stacks and where their strength is is where we're stronger in our interior line, and that's you know, at the right guard position. So I'm looking forward to that matchup. Yeah, be honest, did a nice job, excuse me, in this first start. I think he gave up a sack second half, but overall, what he's been able to do really impressive.

I thought this quote from Patrick Peterson guys was really interesting though, just in terms of the Cardinals approach potentially this game. He said he told CBS Sports stop the run. Definitely got to stop the run and force not saying he can't do it, but we have to force Andy Dalton to beat us. We feel if you, if you take the ball out of Ezekiel Elie's hands, there's more opportunities for bad things to happen if the ball is

in the air. So and now he made I think he went out of way to say that wasn't a knock on Andy Dalton, but clearly that's their approach, and so how do they approve it? Like do they do they load up to stop the run or like A said, so they feel like they can just kind of play it straight and do it that way because that's been that's been a game plan of every team. That's been

a game plan of every team we faced. I mean, I mean, yeah, nothing's sa that is that's I mean, that's the truth, right, He's not spending anything, he's not shooting any shots. I mean, we have averaged over what forty four passes I think this year per game. I mean, that's absurd, right, So, I mean it's just clear that way that teams are taking away the run and they're trying to make you know, before you know, before Dak got hurt, Dak was throwing it up there too. Luckily

they weren't getting intercepted. But there's plenty of opportunities for teams to get I and T. So that's essentially what Patrick Peterson's alluding to. They are very confident in the secondary affair for right, for the very sole right reasons. Now, with that being said, and this could be a stupid question, but I'm gonna ask it anyways because I'm the host.

But whenever it comes to taking care of the football and you we just talked about how the game plan hasn't changed, and you want to force Andy Dalton to throw the football, much like how Dak Prescott was forced to throw the football. Who are you more comfortable taking care of it and not turning over a couple different times? You think it's Andy Dalton or is it Dak Prescott? In terms of your two quarterbacks, I know Dak Prescott's out of the fold right now, but whenever who's back

behind center? Who are you more comfortable having not turned over the footback? Okay? By how much of a margin? Though? Bye a lot? Really? Why bye a lot? He's He's right, I mean, because you look at the number statistically, he hasn't been a turnover machine. He may have had a year where he had thirteen interceptions, but if you go back to Andy Dalton's career, his tenure career, he's he's had a few well a year with fifteen or twenty interceptions, So that's I mean, that's I'm just basing it off

of the numbers. I would he's he it's not a guy that turns the ball over. Hadn't been a guy that's turned the ball over this first four games. Obviously he was on a roll to go somewhere we didn't want to see. But at the same time, yeah, just based off of those numbers, I would say that, Okay, I feel more secure with with Andy personally, and obviously I liked but I think Andy's a better pastor. That's I just feel like he's just an all around better pastor.

I think he's more experienced. I think he's seen more. I think he's going to be more confident with this office in line than Dak was because Dak was spoiled with his previous OFFICI lines now and now it's Andy Dozen's time to be spoiled. You know, even with this office and line, he's now spoiled compared to what he's had in the pass. So I think he has every reason to continue to be confident with his abilities. And

he's done it for a while. And you know, you allude to some of the previous stats and I said, I'm not really a stat guy, but you know, look, look what he was doing it with you. I mean he was, he was he was having to try to force things with that with that squad man. So you know, I'm looking forward to seeing him, um now in this

and this replacement role. I'm seeing what he does with this, with this opportunity, I would lean towards Dak just because I think he's had some some stretches in his career where he's turned it over too much and this is one of them. But but it's been such a weird start where they've I mean, when you throw it sixty times two straight games, like like Isaiah said, I mean,

there's something that he got away with. But you're also trying to force it too, because you're trying to get back in the game, and it just it just lends itself to more high risk situations. So you know, I think Dalton's got They've got a chance to be more careful with the ball if they're more balanced, and if they try to get Zeke more involved, because like I think Patrick Peterson said it, when the balls in the air,

there's just greater risks. Now you've got greater risk for big plays, and I think you win games mainly based off chunk plays. But I think they need to do what they can to help Andy Dalton out where he's not trying to just put it on his arm. And I agree with Heck by the fact of it being interception wise I think Dak Prescott was probably a little bit more conservative in the throws that he was willing to make. Andy Dalton's gonna take some shots. He's gonna

take shots downfield. We saw that even in the game winning drive that he had with Michael Gallup. You're gonna see the ball push down field a little bit more with Andy Dalton. But it's something that I think is notable. Dak Prescott in his five seasons or I guess four in a quarter season's thirty four fumbles. Andy Dalton in nine career years has fifty seven, So just a couple more in about four pretty much five more years than

Dak Prescott overall. Fumbling the football. That's not a stat that's brought up with quarterbacks a whole lot, but I think it does pay dividends in terms of holding onto the football and being ball secure whenever it comes to the table. We're gonna step aside when we come back, We're gonna talk about this secondary. How could the Cowboys wide receivers take advantage of Buddha Baker and Patrick Peterson being on the other side. And is Patrick Peterson still

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Isaiah stand back, our resident Super Bowl Champion, Cowboys Insider Rob Phillips, and the Great heck, my Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeomans, and uh, we were just kind of getting into the debate of Dak Prescott, who or Andy Dalton who takes care of the football better as a quarterback as a starter in this league, and really I think we were pretty split on who we tru more with the football. And Isaiah, you a statement in the middle of the

break that Rob especially found interesting. I found it interesting as well. But what was that statement that you made about Andy Dalton. I'm just saying that I feel like Andy Dalton is he protects the ball better. Okay, He's just a better protector of the ball in my In my opinion, I think that he's he's more conscious and of the ball and that I've been from all his time in Cincinnati where they just they can afford to turn the ball over that much. I don't know, but now,

but he's better in the party with the ball. You see him. He has to, you know, as as seabeard Um mentioned, he keeps both hands on the ball versus Dak has one hand on the ball. It's just he's more technically sound than Dak and that gains no shots. He's been around longer, right, so he should be more technically sound and didn't die. Um, and then he doesn't. He doesn't throw them, he doesn't just throw the ball

up there for chance as much. In my opinion, UM, I think he's a lot more precise passer, and I think he's just just yeah, he's just more efficient in that regard. I'm not saying a better overall quarterback right now, but when I am saying in certain of these aspects and where we have to be sure right now, I think he's better. That's kind of where I think he hates rather to ride. I was gonna lad it. Do

you want this? What you got? Now? You know what I'm a I'm trying to lift this breathe because I feel as though the backup always gets all the right because he's the guy you hadn't seen it, go ahead, He's the guy, yeah seen, and you will tell me, you know. I believe that everyone's trying to sell this narrative that, oh, the Cowboys are in better shape now than what they were with that I don't believe it. I'm not saying that you said that, but no, I'm

not saying that. What I'm saying is there is a narrative that's being written that we are in at our hands. Okay, like, oh, don't worry about it. The backup is gonna thank you guys where you want to be. And also because the division is so bad, you guys can just walk into the playoffs. I just don't see that. I don't I don't see that. What I see as a Cowboys team that because they've lost, that they're gonna have to retool

a lot of the things that they do. I think Andy Dalton's experience is going to make it where you don't have to limit what you do in your playbook, but there are certain things that Dad has done in your offense that you are going to miss. And so this year Dak was taking the next steps to be the elite quarterback. He was threading needle. He wasn't throwing fifty fifty balls, oh, just throwing it up by chance and hoping that a guy runs under it. I see that.

So I think that, you know, because we are dealing with them, we have to deal with Andy Dalton as starting quarterback. I just can't throw away the fact that he was on the team last year that went oh and eight with him starting. Uh, they brought in another quarterback that failed miserably and he ended up coming back. But that was the reason why the Cincinnati Bengals had

number one pick in the draft. So if we're gonna keep it real, if we're gonna keep it real, let's keep it all the way real, and don't tell me that, oh, we're in good hands. No, we have some things that we have to change too. Let's go absolutely, let's freaking you want to have a real quip before our going ahead? Heck, let's go now, I've got I'm about I'm about to

unleash the beast. Listen to it. Okay, Hey, you're trying to talk about a team records as if the quarterback is more than one of eleven players on the field, right, And I understand he plays his position, he plays his role, but he cannot affect the play every other person on that field. He can't affect the player. He can't not at all, not at all. And I've happened to play that position. So no, you do not get those wins. Right, this organist, that organization is terrible, right that the whole

organization was terrible. He went, he had new head coaches, the front office, sucked, right, the sports system sucking. I mean, I mean free Andrew Worth left. I mean, come on, man, like everybody in their mama was trying to get up out of there right and have aj green for most of the time, so I didn't have a surrounding surrounding castle. Let's not compare the fact that the team was terrible. Ask you the fact to how that he was as

a quarterback. And again I've reiterated, he chose to be a backup, so as everybody's looking, everybody's looking at him as, oh my gosh, the second string quarterback. And no, we're not saying, at least I'm not saying heck that, oh we're about to be a better team now because Andy

Dalton's in Instead of that, that's not the case. But when I am saying is Cowboys nations should not lower their expectations of this twenty twenty, twenty twenty and twenty twenty one Dallas Cowboys team simply because their second string aka Pro Bowl quarterback is now coming in and taking the round. That view should not lower your standard because the production should not change. Now when you talk about is are they gonna miss things? Of course, every quarterback

is unique. They're two different styles of quarterback. Dak has a Tennessee to run more. Andy Dalton's gonna sit in there with two hands on the ball and take care and take care of the ball. Right, He's gonna be more precision pascord I guess what. He's gonna take more risks down the field and guess what with these receivers,

that's probably gonna be a good thing. Right. So, as we're talking about these things, yes, you're gonna miss some things, but you're also gonna gain some things that you would miss if it was the other way around. I think there's a balance between. Yeah, like they're not they're not better off with Andy Dalton. I don't believe that. I think And obviously Dak, like Isaiah said, brings some different things to the table in terms of read options stuff,

especially around the goal line. I think he has more of an I think Andy Dalton's a mobile quarterback, but I think Dak has more of an ability I think to make things out of nothing when things break down, which is really important in today's game. But yeah, I mean I agree that you don't they expect I wrote about this day. Expectation should not plumb it right now for the Cowboys, Now, can they win a Super Bowl without Dak and without with all these other injuries. It's

really hard to see at this point. But they're two and three. It's the worst division in football. If they can go four and two in the nfcast, just give me four wins out of six, then a couple wins here and there, eight and eight might win this division. I think it very well could win this division. Maybe seven and nine wins this division. Just get just just get in the playoffs. Get in the playoffs and see what happens. And I think absolutely the Cowboys. You know

they've they've made some moves this offseason that have not worked. Obviously, two defensive signings and the season didn't make it through training camp. Jerry McCoy got injured, obviously, But give the front office credit for spending a little bit more at the position. Three million bucks for Andy Dalton as opposed to five hundred thousand for Cooper Rush over the last couple of years. Whatever it was, that is looking like a move that might save your season because he absolutely

can come in here and play absolutely ack. When you got anything else to add there on your rebuttal side. You know, my thing has always been with Dak Prescott not missing any snaps or two snaps in four years. Andy Dalton did come to Dallas to save the Cowboys, to take us to a super Bowl. He came here because he was gonna sit behind Dak. That's what it was. He didn't say, hey, honey, we're going to Dallas because I'm gonna play, but I'm gonna get an opportunity to

play because Dak is gonna miss some games. That wasn't what was going on. And so a feeling like he's graced us with his presence is one thing. But another part about this is the fact that I feel more confident with Andy Dalton instead of Cooper Rush. That's for sure. But I just feel like it's you're not being sincere when you say, oh, he's gonna be that much, he's gonna be better than Dak. And I understand we preface who said that, You're basically is that not what you're saying,

are you not? I mean, I would love for you to run the film back and see where I said he's better than Dak. I just said he's I think he's I think he takes I take he takes care of the ball better than Dak. Yes, that's what I did say. Okay, well just kind of it's I'm getting a twinge of that, and so I'm just trying to see where you at player. No, no, no, no, I'm a very direct person to heck Man, I would never just insinuate anything. Any Dalton is going to ball out.

Let me just clear that up right now. He is going it is. It is unfortunate that Dak Prescott is out. Nobody on this podcast, nobody in Cowboys Nation wanted Dak Prescott to get injured or not be president in any form of fashion, whether it was his him sending his franchise tender, whether it's him signing an extension. They everybody wanted him to be playing. That's let's get that out the way now. Being that he can't play anymore. Andy Dalton is the best and I mean the best option,

not only as a secondary guy, a second guy. But if you took any Dalton and said, hey, let's say any Dalton versus the worst ten quarterbacks in the NFL's worst twelve let's say the bottom twelve quarterbacks, right right, who do you put ahead of him? I mean without having names in front of me. I'm sure I would have some names that would go in front of him.

But at the same time, if you if you're gonna do a hypothetical like that, if Andy Dalton has started the season with the Cowboys, what would our record be hypothetically hypothetically two and three? M oh Man, I think I don't know if I don't know if he brings you back against it Land, I don't. I don't know. I don't have it brings you back, I don't. I don't know if that, I don't know if it changed. I don't know if it changed, because the reason why,

the reason why. And I'm not saying that the production would have fell off. I don't think the production would have been much different at all. Actually, um our defense has sucked. That's what's games. That's so. But what I'm saying is, but by saying that we can't as I, people are trying to say there's gonna be a drop off in production on office, there's not. There is not going to be a drop off in production. He's not going to turn the ball over. He's a precision passer,

he's experienced. We're about to start facing AFC teams that he's familiar with. Right, so, where where is this that we're gonna have this drop off? Exactly? I just want to know. I just want somebody to pinpoint, Hey, guess what, we are going to lose production because Andy Dalton can't do this. I'm just waiting to hear that from anybody. Yeah, I think if anybody think, I think, if there's any concern, go for it, go for it. If there's any concern, it just might be the protection up front as many

injuries as they've got. But he but I think he's he's underrated as a guy that can at least buy time. I mean, he's not gonna he's not gonna scramble around all day. And Dak doesn't either. Yeah, let's say he isn't either, and they and they've both been in this system for the same amount of time, right Yeah true? Now, so uh ahead, Kyle, No, I think I think absolutely they should still expect to go and win this division. I still think they can do it. But it's gonna take.

It's gonna get it's gonna take getting healthier on defense. They need some guys back, They need to get better defensively, just incrementally week to week like they did last week. Last week was an improvement because you take away two turnovers offensively that led to fourteen points. You know, they didn't give up thirty four points defensively. They did a better job. Some of their better players stepped up. You do that, you clean up some things on special teams.

As a team, if you get better and you stay relatively healthy after what you've been through already with Dalton, I think absolutely they should expect to go and try to win this division. Still. Yeah, I think that still is the expectation. And I know Jerry Jones and Steven Jones probably feel that same way. The expectations don't drop, even though they might change a little bit, they don't necessarily drop. It's just a different way of looking at

the twenty twenty season because of what happened. Whenever you're building this roster moving forward. And I know yesterday we kind of got into who had the better supporting cast

for Andy Dalton and the Cowboys. I think the supporting cast this year is better than anything else that Andy Dalton's ever played with, maybe with the exception of the defense, because even when you look at the defense in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, they were thirtieth in the NFL, and they were twenty sixth in the NFL in terms of average yards per game allowed defensively and then on

the offensive side of the football. How about this from last year in terms of support for Andy Dalton, the leading rusher for Cincinnati last year didn't hit triple digits until the ninth week of the season. Whenever they started their O and eight run twenty one yards in game one, seventeen in game two, sixty sixty two, ninety three, finally seventeen. Then Dalton himself was the leading rusher in Week seven, and then sixty six in Week eight when Mixon had

two yards as well. So I think overall, you look at the supporting cast around Andy Dalton, the production might be there for him. Finally as a quarterback, he's going to get a chance in an audition to go start elsewhere. I still think quarterback or Dak Prescott is your quarterback of the future in Dallas. He's still gonna be here. I believe the Jones family is still right there. Nobody's trying to get rid of Dak Prescott. But for twenty twenty,

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But I keep bringing this up from a Patrick Peterson perspective, and I know, Isaiah, you have a ton of respect, as does the rest of the league really in the NFL, A ton of respect for Patrick Peterson, of course, a ten year veteran in one of the best corners, best defensive backs in all of football. But my question to you this year he's only had ten tackles, he's had that one interception, he's been targeted twenty seven times, and

he's allowed fifteen receptions. But is Patrick Peterson when you watch him on film Isaiah, the same Patrick Peterson that he has been. I don't know if I can say he's the same. He might he lost a step, I mean, but he's still poise, man, I mean I do still poise. He's still he's still confident. Me. There's just a there's just a calming, just peace about a dbs who are experienced, you know. And I when I used to play against you know, Daryl Reeves, you know, and when I was

playing for New England, I mean, he was just chill. Right. There's some guys you can get to move off their mark and you can see their legitary. And then there's some guys that are just so relaxed and it's just like it doesn't matter what you do, Like they're just

moving like like poetry, you know. And that's what Patrick Peterson does, right, And and and it helps on their side that they have two University of Washington, you know, you dub guys played in the secondary with them, you know, And and and you know, I just gotta throw that out there, and Byron Murphy and Buddha Baker, you know, so those guys are coming along too, But no, I mean Patrick Patrick Peterson is um, He's he's still that

guy and he's still to be respected in this league. Obviously, there's there's younger guys that have, you know, stepped up and feel like they feel like there's always somebody every year that just comes out and they're like they're the big deal of that year, and then like a year or two later, they kind of fade to the black right. But there's still those dudes, they're just not out in the front. This is still one of those guys. Don't disrespect them because he's gonna test all of our receivers

who decided to step out in front of him. And I love Pat Pete man, I've been been a big fan of his since lsu UM. But you know, he's the closest thing, in my opinion to dunstanding is just as far as his ability to lock down a side of the field. Uh, Patrick, Pat p is amazing and look father Time is father Time is undefeated. But still don't test him. Yeah, he's he's he still is gonna play in close quarters with any receiver that comes out to his side. Uh. And he has everybody playing like that.

They play close to the line of scrimmage, which I think is going to be an advantage for the Dallas Cowboys receivers who have been given a lot of cushion. When you talk about when you talk about your you Dub guy and Buddha Baker. I love the way that he plays man. Buddha Baker is you know, obviously with them knowing that they're gonna have to stop Zeke. Look for Budda Baker to be down in the box because he is a short fire tackler at the line of

him she comes on the bliss. He's just a guy that you're gonna see thirty two moving all over the field. But I think if they take that approach with us on offense, I think that is what's gonna get give Andy Dalton to the most amount of success because of his AFC North, what he's the what he has coming from the AFC North, but his ability to find receivers quickly. Uh. And so that experience is gonna pay off for him in this game. Hopefully. Yeah. I don't know if he's

you know, Peterson has dipped significantly and his production. I know he's taking some criticism. I know he has said, you know, nobody's really testing me outside the numbers. They've tested me inside and I'm crossing routes and things like that. So but heck him is right. Like Buddha Baker getting him back last week from that thumb injury. He changes them because he's great on the back end. He had a sack last week. He's gonna line up in different places.

He's gonna help shore up your secondary. I'm interested to see what happens, though, because I don't think you know, we talked about Ramsey in week one and how rams He's gonna take away a Mari Cooper, and Cooper still had ten catches. So I think you still run your offense. I still think you run your routes and you try to get all your receivers involved depending on how they're playing you defensively. So I don't I don't think it's a situation where they're gonna take away one side of

the field. I think they're still gonna try to get a Mari going. I thought it was interesting though that a Mari only had like forty something snaps in the game. They're really trying and he's not apparently dealing with an injury that's showing up on the injury report. So they're just they're trying to get all their receivers involved. And we talked about that that long drive where it was run heavy. That was said Wilson, Michael Gallup and and Noah Brown Brown. So you know, they trust all of

their receivers, especially some of their blocking ability too. But we'll see, we'll see it. It's a it's a good secondary overall. Their face in this week. I really do like Buddha Bay a lot. It just kind of talking about your you Dub guy. I mean, this is a guy who's a little bit under size him. He's five ten, ninety five pounds. He looks like he would normally be in a in a high school a lot in terms of the roster and the height and weight. But this

guy plays fierce. He's one of the best young safeties in the game. And I really do like him a lot, and I think whenever you bring him up and put him in the box, my one worry is if Ezekiel Elliott gets to the next level. Isaiah do you think Baker has enough juice to go up against Zeke? Whenever we've seen Zeke a couple of times. He's had those angry runs, he's had those trucks. But but can Buddha Baker be a guy to bring him down one on one?

I mean, the only person that can really come up and lay the hit on on freaking Zekiel Elliott is two guys, Um Cam Chancellor, he's retired, and freaking Sean Taylor, who's who's not with us anymore. There's only two guys that can come up and lay lay hits. Yeah, exactly, I come up and lay a hit on Zeke. So if he gets up to that level and he has any steam behind him, anybody's gonna get They're gonna get hit stick, they're gonna get truck He'll they'll they'll get tackled.

They'll still make the tack um. But I don't see nobody just blowing up Zeke when he has got kind of momentum. I would throw Derrick Henry in there, if Derrick Henry decided to ever play line defense the other night. But other than that, other than that, my god, here's here's the name though, guys, Dalton Schultz. You know, Dalton Schultz may have the ability to have a really big game, h just based off of the way that they're going

to a line to stop the run. So I'm looking for Dalton Schultz to be someone that gets some advantages against strong safeties and linebackers, and now this is the game for him to do that, especially with them trying to limit and take away some of the things that we do offensively. I'm just I'm really looking forward to seeing our receivers get off this press coverage, and that include Schultz too. I want to see them get off press because we haven't We really haven't had to see

that that much. We really haven't had an opportunity to see them do that that much this year. Um, they did a little bit obviously where we showed in the film room, but that wasn't even really a real press Um. These guys are gonna have hands on them and they're gonna have to get off the line image and I am really looking forward to seeing can they do that and then once the balls in the air, can they go make the contested catches Because these aren't these aren't

no little young whipper snappers. They're playing against these dudes can play and they they can find the ball just as well as our Our receivers can very fundamentally sound secondary for Vans, Joseph and defense. And we showed that in film room Isaiah really quickly before we have to sign off here, But who out of the Cowboys receivers has the best chance and we'll have the most success against press coverage? Cede Lamb? Oh, ceedee Lamb? You agreed?

You agree there, Isaiah, Rob, Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I think this quickness off the line of scrimmage. I'll go Ceede Lamb. I just wanted to hear his name a couple of times in this show. We hadn't talked about it. I knew it. I knew that's that's gonna do it here for Talking Cowboys. It's been a whole lot of fun over the last forty five minutes. Glad you've been with us for Harrison, for Rob Phillips, for Isaiah Stanback special thanks to Chris Beam in the backup Kyle Yeoman

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