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If you listen to this show, you should probably already know the phone number. It's a good day, Kyle. Why is it a good Day's a good day because we're rocking America's team, and we're rocking with America today at one o'clock. Thanks dogging all right, he rons the group stage match to decide it all winds up being yep, winner go home. Love those situations. That's one of those today. On paper, the US is much better than Iran. However, paper does not matter in the World Cup. We've already
seen that. Also, not to mention the US side of things. Tied with Whales, and Iran beat Whales. So if anything, you should look at the results of common opponent and it's uh, it's not not pretty at the moment. So gotta have a good game today, good match, I should say, gotta do it. Gotta have a go to match. Can't draw, can't you can't you gotta win, draws a loss, gotta win, Yeah, gonna unless you're playing in England. Yeah, I just don't do draws. Yeah, don't draws. Yeah, yeah, I mean who
does draws? Yeah? Sure, you're more of a commando guys people, But yeah, like you said, rocking with America's team, go USA, get the job done. In guitar, let's do let's do some news and notes a little WWRD because yesterday Mike McCarthy spoke. Then we had the coordinators, all three of them, Kellen Moore, Dan Quinn, John Fossil, all taking the podium.
What'd you take away from yesterday's press conferences? Well, big thing is we're still waiting to see if this is going to be the week that the Cowboys start the twenty one day practice window. On either Toron Smith or James Washington, Mike McCarthy yesterday didn't lean one way or another. He does sound wildly optimistic, and not necessarily wild. He sounds optimistic and justifiably so based on what I'm seeing from Toron Smith walking around the facility and his rehab work,
et cetera, et cetera. So I think that optimism is justified. But we still don't know just yet if Toron Smith's window is going to be activated this Wednesday. Things don't look as optimistic for James Washington. And here's why I
say that. I say that because, even though neither has been confirmed medically cleared, as of yesterday, the trajectory for Toron Smith is pointing due north, whereas James Washington, it seems like his window keeps getting pushed back further and further and further, so be interested to see if James Washington is activated this week, especially with the news up with the Odell Beckham junior talk. We'll get to that
in a moment on the injury front. On the other injury front for active players, darn Curse, who battled through a shoulder injury on Thanksgiving against the New York Giants, played through at fifty six snaps, played effectively doing so. But he's going to be eased into practice this week, so you might see him DMP on tomorrow, which is winnings Day, might see him limited, but the Cowboys going to be very careful with him. He's missed three games
this earlier this season with a knee injury. A Cowboys are hoping that it won't be a fourth game missed against the Coats, but as McCarthy said, they're going to give him every chance to get on the field against Indianapolis.
As far as obj circling back to that, I found it very interesting but not unsurprising or not surprising that McCarthy said yesterday Cowboys are still full steam ahead on OBJ despite the you know the headline about the the airplane situation, the Centera C I'm not surprised that the Cowboys would still be full steam ahead after that. I thought it was a throwaway non story, you know, whatever
the case may be. I was surprised that McCarthy was as forthcoming about it about it, That's what kind of surprised me pleasantly so because not you know, a couple of hours earlier, Stephen Jones was speaking on one or five point three of him the fan, and he pretty much put the kebosh on the OBJ talk in the realm of he said, we've said all that, we we've said a lot about OBJ, but there it's a competition now for his services. Anything more we say could possibly
work against us. So he said, you know, I'm done talking about it. OBJ knows we wants him, we want him, We're going to continue talking. And then Mike was like, oh no, we're full steam a hit already. And then the owner and general manager spoke this morning and basically expanded and expounded upon what McCarthy said on yesterday, which is the Cowboys are in fact full steam ahead, and talked about how you know the time is now, so it doesn't sound like everybody's on the same page. Everybody
is on the same page. Everybody's definitely on the same page this. Yeah, yeah, Stephen, because Stephen was one of the one of the main ones that were out there that was out there publicly and saying we want OVJ. And now we're to the point where Dak Prescott after the game he was asked about OBJ. He said, you know what, OBJ knows, I want him here. He knows where I stand. I'm also going to focus on the
guys who were here. That kind of segue to Stephen yesterday, and Stephen was like, OBJ knows we want him here, so we're in a competition to get his services. We're not going to keep talking about it. We're gonna work this behind the scenes, be about it right And then Mike was like, hey, we're full steam ahead. And then Jerry was like, well, since you said that, Mike, well let's talk about this full steam ahead times now. We want them right now, we're going to try to go
get them. We feel we're going to go position cowboys feel good about the chains. And just since we didn't get to talk about it yesterday, for those that don't know what the plane situation was, I'm gonna put this out there because I do want to ask you a question about it. But Odell Beckham Junior removed from a flight at Miami's International Airport on Sunday after police said the free Agent wide receiver was in and out of
consciousness and refused to leave the airplane when asked. Police were called to the airport and they were the airplane itself was evacuated because of a medical emergency because the flight crew on this American Airlines flight expressed concern that Beckham was seriously ill. So that was I'll tell you what basically it. When I'm sleep, I was going to say, you know, I'm not conscious when I'm sleep. Yeah, So I think I don't think it's a big story. I
really don't. I think it's a misunderstanding more than anything. But it is something of a topic of conversation. The fact that it happened to happen the week that this was supposed to kind of start going through right, Well, that's why it's a topic of conversation, because the time is coming, no matter if it's with Dallas or if it's with whoever he's gonna sign soon. For me, it's a non story. And when I saw when I got all the you know, as many of the facts that
were publicized. Um, I was just like this this guy he was asleep and that was before that was my assumption, before his representation put out a statement basically saying, well, he was asleep. He had the blanket over his head, as players tend to do on flights, and you know, he got awakened by the flight attendant who then asked him, you know, allegedly asked him to put a seat belt on. He allegedly said noda, blah blah blah. Sounds like like
you said. There was a misunderstanding there. Ultimately he was escorted from the flight. There was no consequence of it. He went peacefully. He didn't go kicking and screaming. You didn't see footage of him in the airport throwing bags or you know, nobody said anything rectory about him. Right, you didn't see him. You know. If anything, it was because they were worried of safety reasons. I'm not talking about the staff. I'm talking about still just d hundreds
of passengers on the plane. Nobody haven't heard. Nobody's negative. Yeah, it's there's usually if there's something that happens, if video is going to surface, something to latch onto for those who wanted something to latch onto when it comes to OBJ anyway, So if you're if you're hell bent on holding onto that narrative of oh, he's a problem off the field and he's diva said. You see a story
like that and you're like, how I knew it? I knew it until you think about the fact that there is over two hundred cellphones on this flight and there's not a single thing negative showed up, not a single well. And also it is Odell Beckham Junior. He's a very recognizable figure. He's a polarizing figure. So of course if you see Odell Beckham Junior, they're recording, then they're selling it's throwing a fit on the plane. You're going to
have recordings of it. Such a non story. So I agree with you, boys are still gonna bring it up. I get I had to talk about it. We had. I can tell you what. There's been many times where I've gotten on the flight and I have passed out sleep that is okay, And there's before I even hit the runway, I'm out. I am out. Some of those early morning those red eyes man out and you try to wake me up, I'm uh I'm out of consciousness,
careful conscious. What have you the flight? Have you ever been in mid mid sleep, mid sleep, but you know you're on a plane because you're kind of crickety necked and everything, and you're not in first class in the middle. Yeah, that's fair. I've never had that experience, humble, Yeah, alright, flex but yeah, and then you land, but you're so deep in the sleep that you forget that you're ending. And I thought, like I it happened to me one time. I thought I was dying. Yeah. I thought I was like,
already sit. I had my head up against the side window, and I was just kind of I was I was out. I've been so out, dude. Where I wake up and I felt I was in such a deep sleep that I'm like, we have to be here, Like like I wake up and like we're on the ground of thirty minutes, we're here. We haven't even taken off yet. I'm like, wait, what, I can't sleep on a plane. Oh yeah, I really can't. I'm sorry, Like I'm incapable. Really, I've tried and tried. I just I can't. I could sleep right here, I
could sleep anywhere. I can't do I can't sleep in a in a plane podcast. Honestly, I need to go see a doctor. Probably. I can't sleep in a plane or in a moving view. Well, you didn't sleep during the halftime, No I didn't. You didn't. Got you? All right, It's time for talking Tuesday, gentlemen, we can s shout out to the fans. Yeah for for for sending us d ms. Yeah, of the name of yours was blown up because I don't really be on Twitter. So thank y'all for having your Your IG got blown up, and
it's blown up. Mines got blown up. We've got a ton of really good We even have people stuff in the ballot box. Yeah, we see you, Mario together. I'm actually gonna go through my list. You know, I'm I'm gonna write them all out, So keep hitting me up. I stand back, Okay, I stand back on ig hit
my DM up. I'm gonna write your name down. I'm gonna write down what your name is, and we'll bring him to let's all do that so that way, Patrick, the ones that are in your dms and that are that are in your your mentions, write, write them down, bring them as a list, and then we can kind of cross check them. We can kind of go all the way through and see, Okay, I liked this one. I liked this one. Oh he sent that to you too. Okay, good.
So then we are going to talk about it. For those of you who don't know what we're talking about, we're having a nickname competition for the defense. We've teased it all season long. It is time to finally choose a nickname for this badass Dallas Cowboys defense. So we're gonna do it on Friday, so you still have time. Still got three more days to send in all of your nicknames. Hit us up at I am stand back
at Patrick nose Walker. Actually it's ad Voice of the Star, but it says Patrick nose Walker, and then at Kyle Underscore Yeoman's. But now it's time to take some calls a toy eighty five to two ninety seven, speaking of a talking Cowboys regular, We've got Anthony in Miami. What up, Anthony? How's it going? What's up? My guys? What's up are y'all doing? You weren't on the flight where you? I mean? No, I you know somebody I have nothing, and y'all know
I won't. Anthony was the one taking up all the sofa, right, he was walking in the middle of the Hey, we lost one of them soon, but it's all good. We're gonna get that old you know, get that old old one handed grabber. But any way, God, I don't have social media. People call me and my family, you know, come on, man, bold, but you know, you know, so I don't really have it. So I like to present mine. I came up with her name, and my girl a name, and shall that we came up with his name for
the defense. Okay, present that to you. Okay, we have eleven guys on defense, right, sure, you have no eleven who really kind of like the start, right, Okay, we're gonna end. They're known for sex, so we're gonna go with the Chapter eleven sack company. That's that's my name. Okay, that's what it was. It was chapter eleven. That first word just kind of muffled. Say it one more time, Chapter eleven, sack company. Okay, I like it. I like it.
It sounds. Yeah, it sounds like a really cool, like almost like a brewery because they're brewing up some a lot of people, got a lot of meetings, and chapter eleven will be like that that's where. That's good. That's even better. I'm not a financial guy, so yeah, that the opposing offense, that's what he's going. I like it. Believe the company very appreciate you, Anthony. So we'll add that one to the list. I like it. Chapter eleven
SAT Company, how about that? Yeah, I'm in bankruptcy, so I guess I should know that chapter eleven is a thing. But I don't even know. You're not. But I know what you're where you're going. I'm just broke, playing straight up pretty plan. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, that's exactly what it is, all right, Hey, Bankruss I say, he's looking at me, He's like, what are you talking to a jim where you can get married? Don't see me. I'll make it happens, all right. Brian in Iowa. You're
on talking Cowboys? Brian, what's up? How's it going? Hey? Gile Man, how are you guys doing today? Great? How are you good? Hey? My question is is basically on Tyrn Smith. I think this is all from like last year when when when he got injured and and office line chemistry was kind of outwacked. Is it possible the Cowboys will use them differently to jim Um to gim in the rotation a little better to where where the continuity of the office line does not get I'll join
it to where they can act. You play well and thank you for you much and thank you for my question. Yep, thank you very much, Brian, appreciate you calling as always. What do you think? I think it goes back to last week when we spoke with the caller and Toron Smith has earned his spot. When he's healthy, he's going to get dropped right back into his spot. That was the presumption, and then it was confirmed by you know, a couple of the rotations we saw later in the
game in Minnesota, then confirmed by Jerry Jones. Bottom line, Toron Smith is going to be a starting left tackle and you you're going to see Tyler Smith Tye Tye tie all right, you're going to see Tyler Smith sandwich between Tyrone and Tyler Biaish at left guard. That's going to be the rotation. When Tyron comes back, You're going to have a disruption and continuity just by default. So
then the only question is who's your best five? And that's your best five Tyron, Tyler, Tyler, Zach Terrence somebody last week, and I'm forgetting who sent me this, So I humbly apologize on why I'm forgetting the user that sent this in. But on Twitter they said it was Zach and the team in Zach and I was like, yeah, I gotta like that, Zach and the teammate because you've got Terrence, Tyler, Tyron and Tyler and then there's kind of a government. Sorry buddy, but it's it's a tea party.
Whoa cow Boys tea part? Zaching a tea party, Zack in a tea party? How about that? What do you think about Tyrn? He's earned his place back right when he's healthy. He's still one of the best offensive tackles in football. You mean the guy who's probably gonna be in a Hall of Fame. Yeah, that guy? Yeah yeah, yeah, still still letting him ride. Yeah, yeah, that's his spot. Yes, yeah, Tyler, Tyler is keeping getting warm. Do you do you believe in not losing your starting spot to injury? Are you
on that? No? No, I'm not on that. No, okay, but we're talking about Tyron Smith. Yeah, I know, completely different conversation because he's not a part of this. Because when he is healthy, he still plays exceptional football. Tyron Smith is not Drew is not h Drew Bletsoe. And I would even argue um to that point because I don't I don't believe that you can't lose your spot to injury either. I just believe Tyron is iran and you put him back there. But there's a conversation that's
going to be had here soon. Whenever Anthony Barr is ready to return to the field. Is Anthony Barr still going to be the starter or will Damon Clark have earned the starting spot at that point and then Bar becomes a key rotational piece as far as he's still getting his reps, but not as in the starter capacity.
So to that point, yeah, Anthony Barr versus Damon Clark, I mean that I'm for that conversation in a week or two, whenever Bar is ready, Tyron Smith being ready, Hey Tyler, we need to just slide ride on, slide to the right. Thank you, sir, Okay, give us some more calls eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven. We're gonna take our first break. We've had a couple of great phone calls already. Thanks Anthony and Miami,
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to talking cowboys. All right, here you go, Isaiah. You're a big movie guy, right freaking go Kyle. Yeah, get cozy and join everyone at the Star for their most festive movie night yet. Movie Nights After Star presented by Monument Reality on November thirtieth, which is coming up. When is that tomorrow? My gosh, it's tomorrow night, featuring a Christmas classic ELF. Yeah. The show is free and open to the public, begins at seven pm. For more info, you can visit the Star on frisco dot com. It's
one of my favorite movie or favorite Christmas movies ever. Um, this is gonna be what seventy eight degrees today? Yeah, hopefully it carries over to tomorrow. Yeah. Nice. Well let's see, let's see what it's gonna be nice balmy winter Okay, so fifty like mid fifties tomorrow, so it'll be kind of chilly. Blankets easy, that's fall with I'll take it. You guys have like all the levels of jackets? Do you guys have like a wind breaker, a rain jacket, got to like okay, just making sure I didn't know
how everybody's jacket. I don't have a rain jacket. You don't have a rain jacket. That's what an umbrella. I've got a whole Cowboys rain jackets working sports. How do you not have a range jack because I'm waterproof? Oh wow, it's a great response. I don't even know dreads and ulla else not. They don't coincide together. And wait, why is that just you know, just shake it out? Put it up, man, No, you can't let you know what happens when you let these ye stuck into talking dreads.
I'm Kyle Yellman's you know what happens when they get wet. I mean that's last hours of getting those things dried up. Man, is it really? Oh yeah? Oh yeah? And if they get drenched, and if they get drenched adds another like two pounds. You just snap your neck. Yeah, don't go swimming with a hip full of dreads. Bro, bro, I haven't been swimming in years for that reason. Yep, do you go? Do you guys swimmen? I thought you did.
I like to swim, but yeah, but to that point, yeah, like your your next couple hours are gonna be yeah, put it up, And we're stopping at the pig. Okay, and don't splash me. You literally there draining like a dog on towel. Oh really yeah, okay, interesting, I'm learning. Hey, you know the struggle of the luxury. Yeah, you guys both look fantastic. So it's working. Sure, it's the struggle is working, all right, Chris, I apologize, I didn't get
the name. Oh it's Joe in Connecticut. Our next call continuous giving us calls height eight f five two two nine seven. What up, Joe? What's going on? Guys? How we doing? You're doing good? So I hate to bring the conversation back to Odell. So that's we know, that's everything. You don't know, Joe. You want to do it, you need to do it. Yeah, But I want to ask
kind of from a different perspective. You know, I've heard you guys break down how we would impact the team, etc. But given all the public sentiments from Jerry, from Stephen, from McCarthy, from Zeke, from Lamb, from Gallup, from Big Parsons, you know, and even Da which we know he will give, you know, kind of just the standard answer is, are the Cowboys running a risk of potentially missing the locker room a little bit? If they don't sign Odell Beckham.
Not just herely from the football standpoint, but it's been I've never seen it this public. We know how the Cowboys handle free agency in the general sense. Do you think there's any like possible negative ramifications to the locker room if they actually don't end up with Odell Beckham? Joe, that is a phenomenal question. Thank you for getting for talk or for calling in. There's an extra seat here, Joe. I know you're in Connecticut, but if you want to
come on down, we can get you the seat. Uh No, that was That's a that's a new wrinkle to that whole conversation, because the initial conversation was are the heads that the people that are talking about having Odell Beckham Junior in the locker room going to upset the locker room? That answers No, everybody's pretty much on the same page that it's gonna make this football team better. However, if they don't get him as at a negative impact, what
do you think again? Fantastic question. I'm gonna go with no. And the reason I say no is because I'll HARKing back to what Dak Prescott said in the same breath that he said he reached out to Odell Beckham Junior view messages to kind of try to woo him here as will. He also said that he understands Dak does that it's a business, and those guys in the locker room understand it's a business as well. Those guys in the locker room see the public I mean the front office,
both publicly and privately going after Odell Beckham. I'm sure an offer, if not a second offer, is on the table by now active conversations. Jerry Jones has spoken with him on Thanksgiving. So the wheels are turning in a big way. But the guys in the locker room also understand that free agency is a two way street. Odell Belcam Jr. Has to choose the Dallas Cowboys, which is why when you see de Marcus Lawrence reply to Odell's tweet,
it says, make the right decision. When you see Michael Parsonons replying to Odell one of O'Dell's tweets, it says, come down, Dallas. It's not them saying looking at the front office and say hey, go get them. They know the front office is already trying to go get them. So if O'Dell doesn't sign in Dallas, it's no harm, no file as far as the locker room is concerned, because they're gonna say, hey, well we tried to get
the guy to choose Dallas. He didn't choose Dallas. We still got we gotta go out there and try to win this thing. I don't think it's a negative they don't get him. To your point, no, see, listen up man, O'Dell wants to have fun. He wants to be on a really good winning team. He played for free last year for the most part because of how he had his contract setup to pay in crypto and all that jazz. So I actually think he lost money last year to
my understanding. So he has to get paid. And I don't know if Dallas is going to be the highest bidder a matter of fact, got doubt that Dallas would be the highest bet based upon some of the other team situations. So to your point, it's a business. It'd be awesome if he comes, I think in some regards. In other regards is going to be challenging. If he doesn't come, then you have more of what you've seen, you know, and it's getting better. We talked about it
yesterday extensively. In terms of the offense getting better, I don't think it's going to have any hit to the locker room whatsoever. But in terms of, you know, getting your hopes up, we I don't think any of us can see here and make judgment on how hopeful some of the players are. But they, I mean, they have enough to be productive. It's a matter of them just
doing the opposite of what we say yesterday. Don't make the mistakes, don't make the turnovers, and this offense can get back to somewhat of a reflection of what they were last year. Is could the open recruiting of Odell Beckham Junior show that the Cowboys may be on the lower end of the spectrum money wise? Is it just an extra incentive to hey, come on, like you see how our whole locker room is already open arms towards you. You come on in, come on and choose the Cowboys.
But we may not offer you as much as Kansas City n or we may not offer you as much as they would. Dallas has never been the highest bidder. I don't think any negotiations really so, I mean it is what it is. The Star has weight to it as well. There's value to anybody that comes to Dallas by having the star in the helmet, and nobody knows that better than a guy who pretty much created the brand. So I guarantee you that Dallas is not the highest bidder.
And these are the players don't know how much is being offered. I was just going to say that these players have no idea Nolue, but but they do know that it's not the top bidder, right, and their pros and cons to each team. So each team has its own leveraging or like they're so like the Giants, for example, the Giants with the loss of one Dale Robinson, they have less leverage in that capacity, which means they have to up their offer, which probably is going to be
much higher seed than the Cowboys. But the Cowboys they play in warm climate. We just talked about, Man, it's seventy eight degrees out there right now, that odell, it's seventy eight degrees out there, and we know you're listening. So you got balmy winter here, which even when it gets cold, you're playing in the dome here. You're not playing the Dome in New York. You're certainly not playing the dome in the frigid confines of the Buffalo Bill Stadium.
So you're talking about coming off of a second tour in Aco health wise, how you feel physically, whether it goes into it. You know, state of Texas also of the three teams we just mentioned, has no state tax. You hear that, actually, right, has no state tax. You get the pocket, get the pocket. You might earn less, but pocket more. See, this is just simple math, mathematics, sights. All right, let's go to George and El Paso all the way out there in West Texas. How's it going
with George? Oh? Pretty good. I have a good name for your defense. Okay. When the opposing quarterback is looking at the defense, pretty snap, he's looking at hidden crouching tiger, hidden Dright, that's awesome. Yeah, that's really funny. I like it, George. I appreciate your call. Thanks for calling as always. You know that throws me back Isaiah to like early last year, early twenty twenty one, we didn't have nicknames for everybody,
like on the defense at one point. But the you had talked about it with Mica and you're saying, as a quarterback, I went up to the line of scrimmage. You're you're you're reading the defense, you're looking around, you're giving a clap, You're you're kind of setting your guys up, and you look up and you say, oh, crap, there's Michael Parsons. No crap, there's DeMarcus Lawrence. Wow. There's Neville Gallimore. Wow, there's Dorin's Armstrong who's got eight sacks this year. Now, like,
that's what it is with this defense. So it makes sense. No, I like it. I like the name. I like it a lot. I just now it makes me envisioned the movie and then it makes me picture Michael Parsons just like running toe tap on people's helmets in Rowe to the quarterback and then freeze frames circle the camera. I like it. It's fun. Now when you got to make the video, Yeah, it's got to happen. Where's our video department? That was somebody one of our of our viewers of
listeners on Twitter. Go ahead and paste Michael Parson's face. Oh gee from Jersey does that all the time on set? Some really good videos on a clip from Crouching Tiger hitting Dragon and just drop it on Twitter, and just drop it on us on Twitter. Should it be Crouching Lion, hidden Dragon, crouching tiger, hitting lyon because you don't know where Mike is lining up at Tiger Milt always Tiger, always, always Tiger Mill. Jeff and Dallas is on Talking Cowboys. Jeff,
how's it going, Hey, I'm doing well. How are y'all doing great? What's on your mind? Well? I had a idea for a name for the defense, going a little bit into the pass with the Doomsday Defense. They were big, they were bad, and now we're fast and we're bad. So maybe we are the Zoom Day Defense. Hey, I like that. Very well done, spicy Jeff, thanks for the call, appreciate you. So there are a lot of Doomsday defense
uh suggestions yesterday. I don't want to call it just Doomsday four or you know, whatever it ends up being. I don't want that. I replied with a couple just to kind of let my my thought process be out there. I want to get creative with it. However, if you want to pay home homage too, you want to you want to kind of put it that direction, then that's fine. If you want to reference it, that's fine. Zoom's Day was creative. Zooms Day is that's that's good. That's creative.
Do you not like it? I like it. It's not gonna be better than money, but I like it. Do you have one already? Like in the can you've got one? Or ready? Roll? All right, Kyle, when have you known me not to have something in the chamber? What was that? When have you known me to not have something in the chamber. That's a good point. You always have something his right? All right? Well, let's take our second break. Take our second break. When we come back, we're gonna
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and on the phone line one of our favorites. We've got Philippe in France. I'm sure you're probably watching the World Cup. How's it going around? Okay, Um, you're lucky. I'm lucky to be on on the day off to listen to you live. I tried to make a cool first. I want to see mister nuc welcome on board. Thank you, yes, sir, thank you. Shouts out to France. I love you. Okay, Now I want to give twos where Dave belongs. Um, I want to talk about animals. Okay. Grizzlies move deceptively
fast and they are strong, tough and nasty. We have plenty of grizzlies coming by wave on the D line. Plus we have a lion. We have a tiger, a Brian Goo t I G E r S tigers and we have a second tiger in the wing. And we have a wolf hunter. We have a goose hunting. Now that it's hard, it's a hot stuff when you google for years and so one. Uh, it's it's even worse when you google to you go hunt a carnivorous specie in the bleak of n I uh you you go
from being the hunter to being the hunted. Yep, that's what we got on a defense. As long as we stay gap an assignment, sound, we will being we will um, we will be in a lot of skins on the cowboys wall. Thanks for taking Michael, take care, be safe, bye bye. I love it. Let's go, Philip. Yeah, it's all fired up. We got bears, we got tigers, we got lions. Is ready to roll off to France. The Safari Boysari Boys, He says. It's pretty good. It's not the one you had in your cans. It's not mine.
It's good. I like it. Very well done, Philippe. Good to have you back on and of course even giving props to our very a little bit of friends. You know something do I do too? I was gonna say formula that Ricky Bobby, I know, but I wanted to ask him what time it was the friends, because I genuinely curious. He said, he this is his day off. I can get that for you. I'm serious cold. What's that? What time is it in French? Oh? Is that what you ask? Its four fifty four pm? So okay, okay,
So he's ending his day. Yeah right, We've got our black rifle cop on the right. He's he's cooking up, whipping up some shots out to friends, shouts out to it, shouts out to Tacoma, Washington as well. That's where our next guest joins us from Maurice and Tacoma. What's up our guy? Doing great? Great? How you doing? Fellas doing great? How about you'm doing? Greg? Go doing great? Go do? One thing I have in mind was one of well, what's something I thought about on the side of Nica
pass will be the number one guy? The guy I think that's parted out right now. That's my boy, Clark Man. We're talking enough about this man. He needs to get his flowers, which I think about him. Well. First off, thanks for the call. Second off, if you listen to this show regularly, which we know you do, specifically we know you do, you've heard about the moon Clark and have you gotten a chance to go back and watch a little bit more of him since we talked about
him yesterday? Because we hit him yesterday. He's been playing well. Just it's almost like awareness. The awareness needs to get better. Everything else it's pretty good. And Will Yeah, I think that's a rookie thing that games, no training camp, no preseason, dropped in mid season. He's doing exceptional for the experience that he's absolutely yea, he Sho'll continue to get better. I mean every game I was talking to him, I was like, you're getting more instinctive. You know, he's getting
more instinctive. That's what's showing up and that's what It's going to continue to get better as he continues to play in these games, because you're gonna start understanding angles, You're gonna start understanding the schemes better. You're gonna start understanding how to avoid, how to get off blocks, all those kind of things that are adjustments because of the level of players that you're going on your competition. Now this is in college. You know, all these dudes are good.
These dudes are really good, and if you're playing in the regular season, these guys are really really good. So you know, it's just going to continue to gain more experience and he'll he'll continue to get better. Man. As long as that I ask anybody as long as they stay healthy, he'll he'll be a complete want to be
an absolute monster. And you love the fact that he's also a sponge as far as trying to learn as much as he can from players like Lake Vander esh and Anthony Barr and Michael Parsons and you know, DeMarcus Lawrence and every single person you talk to about Deman Clark, they light up a little bit talking about Deman in whatever capacity it might be physical, ability, humility, hunger to improve.
He's going to be an absolute monster. The fact that you even brought up the starting potential earlier, this is a guy. He is what you wanted Jabril Cox to be last year. That's what you wanted him to be last year. You wanted Jabril Cox to come in off of an injury and challenge for a starting spot, and at some point he got reps, but then he got
hurt and it kind of derailed from there. And I still think Jabrill Cox has some potential, but he's still working his way back from injury, whereas Damon Clark is back from injury right and it also working his way into a starting role also goes to the opportunity because with the loss of Anthony Barr and that happening at a time where the Cowboys run defense was most handicapped. Jabril Cox wasn't going to be the answer there. Demon
Clark had to be the answer there. So timing opportunity, it all worked out in Demon Clark's favor, and to his credit, he is absolutely running with it, just running with it, so you know, when it comes to him, the ceiling is the floor. Yeah. Could you imagine if if he ends up being a contribute contributing starter, contributing starter and has you have the Lion and Michael Parsons, you have the wolf Hunter at the second level from Layton Vanderesh, and then Damon Clark is the Tiger because
he's lsu How about that? I love it? All right, Troy and Philly, you're on talking Cowboys. What's up Troy? How's he going? Hey? What's up guys? How you guys doing? Man? Great? How are you good? Good man? I hope you guys have a great thankgiving. I know I did. I did good to hear, Yeah, the game was definitely good. Um. I wanted to jump on man to um because I um, well, first of all, I apologize if I'm repeating anything that's been said UM on the podcast because I'm really just
jumping on UM. But you guys have a great UM conversation yesterday about eliminating or UM taking away the mistake some misuse as it relates to penalties or turnovers. And I think that this team, you know, I think you are who you are. I think in terms of the penalties, that's just who this team is. And I've just sort of settled with that that that's who this team is.
That's what they're going to be. If they can get I don't know the league averages, but they can get it to around six to nine a game, I'm good with that. I mean, I get to the thirteen is a lot, But if they can get it to like six to nine a game, I'll take that. But for me, the problem is you can't have the penalties and the turnovers.
That's my problem. When they you know they're having you can't have thirteen penalties and two turnovers that you know, because turnovers literally give the team the other ball in either scoring position or it gives them an opportunity to score. Um, you know, they work and take it to the house,
scoop and score that type of thing. So I just I'd rather have the I'd rather have them eliminate the turnovers than the penalty, because you know, a holding on first and ten from your thirty five is different from a fun, fun war and interception on your own thirty five yard line. So I'd rather have the turnovers. But the other thing, Um, the last thing I'm saying is, um, you know, we're all fans of the team, and I think sometimes we get caught up in, you know, what
we actually see. But when I'm looking at the Giants game on Thanksgiving, them thinking wow, man, it should be different, it should be better. We just blew out the vikings. But the more I thought about, it's like, well, this is the third game in twelve bays and as I understand that they didn't even practice the week, you know, the week leading up to the Giants game, so and you know, practice matters, and they looked like a flat team coming out. So I kind of cut a break
a little bit. The way they we're playing. They did what they I think, um mister Sandback said yesterday they did what they had to do, and I appreciated that. But I think sometimes you know, as saying I know I am. I'm a little hard on the team, But the more I thought about it, say, well, you know, they just played three games in twelve games, and they just played three games in twelve days. I'll take that. But I just want to jump on and say as to you guys, now, you guys have a great day.
Appreciate you. Take him a call again, Appreciate your Troy, And I think he's right. Cowboys Nation can get critical at times, and when you look at the grand scheme of things right now, the team that's leading your division is ten and one. They have one loss. But are you out of the divisional hunt? No, not even a little bit. No, not even close to being out of the divisional hunt. Are you in the hunt for being the number one seed in the NFCAT Yes, absolutely, yes,
So there's there's great things going on right now. But are there things to fix? Absolutely? But I love what he said. He pointed to something that or he alluded to something that I said on yesterday, which was, you know, when it comes to the penalties, pull the receipt from what I said yesterday, I'm not even asking you to get it down to zero, you know what. Yeah, I feel like that's too big of an ask. But if you get it, I'm not going to say five or six.
But if you get it to between three to five, three to five penalties and one you need to eliminate the turnovers. That needs to go to zero. But if you only get three or four penalties a game and you have no turnovers, you you're probably still in a really good position to not only win that game, but to possibly dominate that game. So yeah, that's a healthy mix. I'm not asking for zero penalties. I love it if you give it to me, but just not thirteen and
not thirteen. Something that he said that stood out to me, Isaiah was something that you said yesterday. But it's compounding mistakes. It's the turnovers and the penalties. You can't have if you want, if you want to have them, pick one, pick what you one? You one, and I would rather you pick penalties, of course, right, Yeah, you got you gotta pick one of your seasons. You can't have it all.
He can't. He can't have pink salt and Johnny's. Johnny's already has some salt in it, So you don't loweries down here. Sorry, Okay, I didn't know what you were talking about now, and that's similar about John seasoning sauce. Yeah, well we use it on the West colds down here to use lowry, so you don't need to add pink to yo to yo whatever it's plus lowries, you know already has something in there. So pick one and pick one, pick one and roll with it. All right, we've got
one more caller. This has got to be a record. This is our ninth call of the day, speaking Beamer Call of the day, Rocky in South Carolina. You're gonna wrap things up for us. You're on talking Cowboys. How's it going, Tiger? Good? How's it going for y'all? Great? How are you? I'm well? Um, So, I just want to say we already got the best nickname you could have in the Cowboys. So what is the other thing? I don't understand them, the confusion with the whole old
BJ thing. You know that's a weapon and he could be with us or he isn't. So well, what was the nickname? What was the one that that you had? Mine were the d Boys? You know it's it's it's Cowboy Nations, Cowboy Nature. Oh you're so you're just sticking with the Cowboys. The Boys. That's it. Okay, I see what you're saying there. I see what you're doing. And then you're you're speaking on the confusion with Obdell Beckham and some of the fan base kind of torn into
Is that what you're kind of referencing here. Yeah, Like he's he's a monster when he's on the field, and if he could be on the field, that's a plus for us, no doubt. If not. If not, we don't have him, no doubt about it. Thank you so much, Rocky that that's the thing. He makes your team better. The pause that's there is probably from injury, right, That's that's the poe. I think the off the field stuff
that's been debunked. I mean, he was on a Super Bowl winning team last year and it didn't affect him, did it, No, and scored in the Super Bowl before he tore his re toreds a s. Yeah, so highly product. The biggest pause with me is is injury. That's my biggest thing. Also, not to mention it's just been a long time since he's played football. It's gonna take a ramp up period. He's not going to be great initially, but does he make your football team better. Yes, yes,
he does, no doubt about it. That's all right. That's a concern for me, kind of piggybacking on the injury thing that you're talking about. The longer it takes for him to make a decision, the goal post gets pushed back as far as when he can probably be at primed form. So if he made his decision and let's say, you know, early November, then a solid expectation would be that he'd be in primed formed by early to mid December.
But if he's making his decision in early December, might not really be prime obj until playoffs wild card round, divisional round playoffs. But nonetheless, you add them if you can, and if you can't, you don't miss what you never had. So I'm right there with you on that, no doubt about it. They cut our stream on Twitter, So for those of you who still watching, congratulations you made it all the way through on the website side of things, and maybe you're listening to this after the fact as well,
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