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Talkin' Cowboys: Hidden Yardage

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A full breakdown of Sunday's 13-9 loss to the Patriots, including key plays that affected field position. Everson Walls joins the show once again.

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Head Hours at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. And it's a Monday here at the Star in Frisco or inside the SWBC Mortgage studios. And it is the annual tradition that is Thanksgiving Week. As we are well into what day of the week would this be? Make you with the game staring us in

the face in three days? Wednesday? Okay, it's a Wednesday as far as the players are concerned, and the coaches, yes, that Wednesday, Thursday, Friday that gets us to a game on Friday. It's actually Thursday. In their mind it's Wednesday. But if you if you're gonna backtime it from a Sunday game day Saturday, yeah, we're already. We just fast forwarded through Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. It is Thursday here at

the Start getting ready for the Buffalo Bills. But there's so much to get to about Yesterday in Foxborough, Massachusetts, Rob and Mickey Garden spot of the universe. Ye. Ever, so I'm gonna start with rob and Mickey because they went on the road trip. Robson see actually was outside. The keyword there is you are on the road trip, right yeah? Yeah, who needs a tunnel, you know when you could be out doing pregame show and that that was fun? No, it was good. It was It was

a good environment. Um. I wish these two teams could have played in a dome and we could actually seen what both teams can do. I think that the elements were for both teams. Um that rain and win was nasty, particularly first half early in the game. UM. Story of the game, special teams. I know we're gonna get into it. It's the field position game. That's why the Patriots are ten and one and the Cowboys were. They were awful in that regard yesterday and you look at the final stats.

To me, the biggest one starting field position for New England their own forty one yard line. Cowboys ever since talked about this all last week, their own twenty one yard line having to drive long fields against the top ranked defense in the league and they couldn't make enough play. This game is gonna play out totally different when they meet again on the Groundhog Day. You know, guy, local guys. I'm not sure. I covered a game in weather that

was so miserable for four full quarters. It never let up. It sucked, it was It was bad for in the press box. And so we can see the rain coming down in the lights and it was blowing across in sheets. It looked like the wind got worse than this. Yeah, it was a guy like Parker on They happened to just you know, pan the crowd and one guy's park It was like a flag. It was just right. It was just blowing. Yeah, And I was like, wow, this is real. It does not look like that on the field.

On the field, it looked nasty, but you did. You couldn't appreciate the wind changes his gear at halftime. You know, it's getting When I when I woke up and I opened up the window of the hotel, so I'm eight floors up and there was a parking garage across the street that was just a little bit lower, and it's raining, and I can see the water on the ground blowing right, and I go, Okay, that winds serious that it's blowing it off. So the rain is coming up like like

Forrest Gump. Yeah, it was. I mean it was I had to go do my pre so Rod was down there doing his pregame show right filming sideline. I had to go do my radio pregame segment. But to get to where the radio booth was, I had to go out on the first level of the field of the stands. And it was like I was headed out without a jacket and the guy goes, you know that's outside. I said, oh, I'll go get in my jacket. And to get there, you had to walk undercover. You weren't undercover for part

of it. And it was like, oh, this is brutal, absolutely brutal. And it was. And I noticed that the people in the lower section stood the whole game. So I'm thinking maybe when it's raining, if you're sitting, you get and maybe their seats were wet. Yeah, you bring a towel, Bill. I was probably flooded down there by their feet. I saw a guy with some some of the boots on and you know he's sitting down there, but it's cover. It's up to his ankle. The water

was up to his ankle. Sou And as for the game, um I had I had pointed out before that. For the Cowboys to go there in that atmosphere, playing that dean team, that defense that they basically had to be clean, almost had to be perfect, couldn't have turnovers, and they had two turnovers that led directly to ten of their thirteen points. Can have it if you're gonna win and beat that team at their place, And that, to me was the entire difference in the game. That was, no

doubt bad. Did you see the interception, Yes, that was an amazing interception. It was they didn't I don't know if they talked about it much. I don't know Troy said much about it on the telecast. But he intercepted with his near hand. He didn't intercept with his back. I think he intercepted with his near hand, like the one that he was swiping with. That's the one that caught the ball. I don't know if you saw that.

And it was almost like this freaky thing to where as he was trying to knock it down, watching it right here. That as he tried to knock it down, I think Coop almost trial trying to help. I think he almost pushed it. It allowed it to stay in this hand, the swipe hand which is extremely unusual. And if you think about how wet everything was and for him to hold on to that man, and you know, and the other thing is, so that play started off with a high snap and Dak went up and batted

it with one hand, got it down. So now the timing's off and he starts the roll to his right. But he's rolling to his right and he throws side arm. Now, if any of you ever throw sidearm, you know, when you're follow through goes, the ball goes left, it doesn't go right where you needed to lead him, and it kind of threw it a little bit behind Cooper, which allowed him to make that diving interception. Bad decision on Dak's proud. I don't know, but I know when you're

throwing side arm. That was the only way I can throw strikes basically in baseball. So there was no doubt it was a bad decision. Yeah, but yeah, he was. He's terrific, isn't he? Gilmore. I mean, that's the guy that they put so much confidence in him. And to have a guy that you can basically shout, I mean I think he basically shadowed Murray the whole game. I mean, did I see a Cooper that was a little bit intimidated. Well,

I don't know if he was intimidated. All I know is that he played only fifty two of the sixty four plays, so he was coming here on series. Said he and Whitton were both out on the one series where they were running the ball primarily, and they really didn't need him then. But I mean even when he was out there participating, it was one time he ran the route and looks like uh Dak was looking at him like okay, get open, and he's over there as

if he's a decoy. Well, he had two catches that were nullified by penalties, and then he had an almost catch that was overturned. So I mean, no one had You know, the only guy that had a big day receiving was Edelman. I mean he was he was fantastic, as we expected. But having said all all this stuff, ten points on those two plays the block field. The block punt leads to an easy touchdown from twelve yards out, and that's one of the reason why their starting position

was at the forty one. When you get one at the plus twelve, that certainly helps out the average that leads to the punt leads to a touchdown, and then the interception leads to a field goal. You got beat thirteen nine, and you basically handed them ten points. And then you look at the as we do every Monday morning, as Monday Morning quarterbacks, you look at quarterback cornerbacks. In this case, you so much be Jack. We're talking about tripping calls that came out of nowhere. I was. I

was working with the group last night. I had him look up how many I said, how many tripping calls have been called this year? Not just on the Cowboys, but this year. And if I could trust this guy's information, he looked up on the computer, if he typed it in correctly, he said, five tripping calls have been called all year long. This makes seven in the NFL, yeah, the fire League, the entire league. And then we get two.

So I mean that that's got to be an algorithm there that could just show you how And that's just the first base first time since twenty fifteen that two have been called in the same game. You played sixteen games a week or close to sixteen weeks. Yeah, so you played like one hundred and sixty games in the league right in in five tripping calls and you get two in one game basically by the same guy. Yeah,

and invented them phantom. I mean, they didn't happen. There was nothing that even resembled tripping and one of them and it was, and it was, and they were significant plays in the game. Yes, I mean not to mention the last drop first year was significant, but it's overshadowed by the severe significance of the of the ladder. Yeah, you're moving. And it's just the fact that an official can make a call like that and not have better court awareness of the significance of that foul in this game.

I mean, you have to absolutely know that that was a penalty that affected that place, you know, I mean, that's the way they should look at him. You can't believe you could call something about the offensive line every play of the game if you wanted to. You can call a hold, you could, you know. So, Yeah, especially blatant that was character said after the game. There's a lot of stuff moving around in there, and it's like and I and he wouldn't. He was being so politically corrected.

He didn't want to get fine. Well yeah, well, because first of all, they don't want to seem like whiners. Yeah, because at this point in the season, the team is looking like, yeah, they just if once they get that first wine out, then everybody's gonna come crashing down on them. So now you've got these you know, cookie cuts, their responses to everything. Now no one wants to show you really just how pissed off they are about the situation.

Remarkable restraint remarkable because then I finally said, I said, okay, let's try this. Define a tripping penalty to me, and he goes, well, I guess it is when you stick stick your leg out and like purposely tripped, deliberately and deliberate. That's what they say, and it doesn't. But it doesn't have to be your foot going out, And you can trip someone by by sticking your knee out to you. And that's what the referee must have seen because both moves,

both calls came on inside moves by the lineman. So you're looking as as alignment offensive lineman. You're coming out and you're fanning out to the right. He comes inside, you go directly into your knee. He came directly into his knee. So now as a player, all you want to do is stand strong. Now, you're not sticking the knee out, but you are planting your foot in the ground to where you don't want to give him free wing through your right side. So he just that's just

the plant in the ground. He was just stepping. He's just stepping down to the face. When the force of the defender goes into your upper body, you naturally are going to fall back with your upper body and your leg is gonna go out to go out and get you. And Tyring didn't. If he was trying to trip the guy, he did a damn belt the worst than because he didn't do it. That guy fell on his own. It

was the guy Mike Mike pier Is. Mike said that the second one he thought was deliberate, and he and Troy kind of get into he was he was tripping on that nice nice So the first one, the first one led. It was an incomplete pass anyway, but it led to second and twenty three, which led to third and nineteen, and then you had to punt on fourth and twelve at the thirty and that's when the block occurred. You know, I you know, I'm a fan but also a player, so I'm gonna fuss about this in either way.

The holding called as well against Taiwan. Oh yeah, that was just the player gave up. How can you call holding the black guy stopped? I agree, it just I mean, his hand was on his shoulder, but he wasn't gripping them and you could clearly see that the guy was just whipped. He had nothing to do with his hand being on the shoulder. He was beaten on that call. Now, all that being said, the last the tripping call on Frederick. I was surprised they threw the ball in that situation.

It was third and one and I'm on the sideline looking at it, and we talked about those weird mix and match with their linebackers that they'll do up front. They had one down lineman and I think there was a third and one earlier in the game, same look. They ran a drawed as heke and got five yards. So you dropped back and you pass, and you you open yourself up to that type of call ball. But I can't go there. I can't go there. He thought it was a good play. I thought it because it

was well. Another part of it is it worked and he got a bouncy got the first down. Okay, I can't go. I mean, you know, that's when we started really going down the series. We have a hold. When you start talking about what we should have run the ball, then we wouldn't have had that. Pat. Well, we made the play, period, and there was a bad call. Well, and there are running plays, and we've seen it in

the past. In fact, I remember a game in Detroit where there was a running play and the game where Matthew Stafford won the game on a long pass and then the quarterbacks neak to win the game. But remember the Cowboys had the ball, they run a safe running play, running back bounces it outside and there's a holding call on that one. So there are times where even a running play, I'm with you, I believe there may have

been a time out right before that. There's two minute warnings, two minute warning, and I was thinking during the two minute warning, because I'm big on just get the first down, get a new set of downs, and let's go and get looked too. I was surprised, but well, there was two downs, and there was two down linemen, six defensive backs and four linebackers and then your defense. We were running it down the throats, right yeah, and we were

banging the wheel. Good. Yeah, but I would I because I'm a novice, I would have called a running play. It was I'm not I'm not killing Moore. I'm just saying I was in hindsight, the better play is what the play that they ran. Because you're getting out of bounds and you're stopping the clock. You're not losing time on the clock. Mell as you say it. Also, when you run a pass play, there is more of a chance of getting And I thought it was gonna be a hole, not a trip that I saw there as

a play. That's all. That's all I got on You look like like no that, I mean, that's a really frustrating call. There's no doubt about it. And then you know you think he thought of Mary Mighty made that catch. But I guess the ball did hit the ground there. It was pretty clear, and and you know, I thought it was a good catchy. He's like a mother Yeah, And I said, yeah, his armies, Yeah, it was a hell of a catch. But yeah, that's the game right there.

And they did, you know, Stepan Gilmour tip your cap man. He bottled up the best receiver you got for what fifty two plays? Yeah? Yeah, So the weather, bottle, bottle, anybody one thing I like about this. I gotta say, even with the struggles, you know, we want to have an identity for this team, we really do, but we don't. I mean, we know that we can pass the ball on anybody. We know we can run the ball to anybody.

We know we can't stop anybody. Even though the numbers look good, if you look at our defensive numbers, I'm gonna give them to you a great job, please do so. In this game, the Cowboys had thirty nine more total yards. They had more rushing yards by eight. They had more passing yards against the great Tom Brady by twenty two yards. They were three or four. On field goals, they were one of three or two of four. And then on time of possession, the Cowboys had the ball forty four

seconds or so. Offensively, they kind of dominated them. And when it came to first downs, and I heard them say, oh, the Cowboys have only converted two first down. Right, So the Cowboys were two of thirteen. They were three of fourteen, so it was dead even basically. But the Cowboys did the same thing the Patriots did. The Patriots didn't make those two mistakes well, there was more than two mistakes. Well,

I mean the turnovers. Yeah, I know, but I mean you were talking about the hidden yardage and it was more than just two plays. That's why I go back to the special teams on the last field goal drive that New England has. You get back to back penalties on the punt and you spot them twenty yards. That was a very curious situation. Yeah, can you explain that to me? What the heck was Let's do this, Let's

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Talking Cowboys continues here at the Star in Frisco. After a Patriots win over the Cowboys on Sunday, and we are three days away from more football at at and T Stadium, Cowboys and the Buffalo Bills. And actually, if the Cowboys win this game over the Buffalo Bills, they will have a victory over a team with a winning record, was they will make the playoffs and beat somebody from

other than Miami, because now that went over Philadelphia is discounted. Okay, it's just discard that went over Philadelphia because now Philadelphia does not have a winning record. So they're three of their five losses they're AFC teams. I haven't added it up, but yeah, I believe. So yeahn't that right? Yeah? All right, you want to discuss that. Let's go all right, so you know how it started to get in that situation, right, Okay, let's to remind people what the situation is. So Cowboys

have third and three at the fifty yard line. Dak hits Cooper on a cross for fifteen yards down to their thirty five yard line for a first down. And that's when the holes got called Tyron Smith that we talked about on Jamie Collins. Right. So now it's third and thirteen at the fifty and he tries to quick out it's incomplete. Now it's fourth and thirteen at the fifty. They basically brought everybody in like they were coming for

a block. They didn't have anybody back, and I think it kind of caught the Cowboys by surprise, and Jason explained that instead of taking a time out, we just took the delay a game to figure out what we were going to do. And so they took the five yard penalty. It was delay. They didn't get the snap off. So now it's fourth and eighteen and they basically they had Burke burkehead back kind of back. It was only

back like ten fifteen yards. So he was to the side where the Cowboys gunner was in case they threw the ball. Because what they did was they brought their guy that was the hold up guy at the last minute. They brought him in all right, and so Ventel Bryant said, oh, I better come in too otnumbers. He was coming in. They snapped it too soon. He didn't get set and

so they got called for a legal motion. Right, he was on the line of scrimmage, yes, and so, And as soon as it happened, I said, that's an illegal motion because he was not flanked out. He was on the line of scrimmage exactly. So it has to be a shift. So the emotion, so right, if you're on if you're lined up as the end and not the flanker, but they let the they left the play go right, and as it turned out, the punt got downed at

the eighteen yard line. Eighteen, and now you got to kick again and it was a shorter So now you're kicking from the Your line of scrimmage is the thirty instead of thirty five. So now you've been backed up ten yards you've been so if you're at the forty, now you were at the fifty two fives to the forty and he now you you're at the fifty. You had you had a penalty that pushed you back to the forty, and then you had another penalty that pushed you back to the third or I don't no, you're wrong.

It was two five yard penals. Okay, go ahead. So it's fourth and twenty three at the forty. Only a thirty two yard punt, fair head, that's would make the difference the yards, yeah, instead of the eighteen. And I will tell you I'm right. Okay, here's what happened. You're at the fifty. Yeah, yeah, to listen to me. You're at the fifty. You had a hold on Tyron Smith that pushed you back to the forties. Okay, No, No,

the hold was on third down. It was third and three at fifty, third and three at the fifty, and there's a hold that made it third and thirteen at the forty. Then you had a delay a game that pushed you back to the thirty five, and then you had the illegal motion which pushed you back to the thirty. Wow. Yeah, hidden yardage, man. I wrote it. I wrote it down ever since old coach Bill Parcels. He harped on that a lot. And see, these are the games that and

we talked about it. You gotta be flawless coming in because they're not gonna make the mistakes. They're gonna wait for you to make the mistakes. And sure enough, we feel right into it. And then and we didn't just voluntarily just go in and give it up. No, this is a good defense. They force what they forced, but we were also implicitly what happened. And then guess what happens. They end up kicking a forty two yard field goal.

So those twenty yards we talked about, they would have never been in field goal range because they ran at the said it was more than just the two. And see, it's just a game like this. You can't judge how good you are as a team. You know when you execute right. And that's what we want to see. How good we're both teams going to be when they are able to execute. And it's hard to really judge both teams when you have the situation, the climate, and the

conditions the way they were. I just really don't I don't look at it as a game to where you can say, you know what, you know, these guys didn't get any better. You can't really say we didn't get any better. What we did show that is that when you look at super Dome with the crowd and all these other activities, when you look at New England with the weather, we don't adapt well to unusual situations that we can't see when when it comes to that, it seems too we seem to be more overwhelmed by the

conditions than the opposing team. Yeah. I think the Patriots handled the rain overall better, at least at least in the kicking game. And they Belichick talked about it after the game that we wanted to challenge them, challenge their ball handling in that situation. And I mean they ever since, right, I mean that's their strength. They're as good as anybody in the league, the best, and it took advantage in

their environment. It wasn't. I mean, Mickey's right in the fact that Tom Brady didn't have a good day, you know, the rain affected everybody. Defense played really well, but two of thirteen on third down, I mean, you think you could do better than that, especially when you're the best third down team in the league offensively. They just didn't make enough. They're the best third down defense in the league. Yeah, I mean, and I bet they thought they were better

than three of fourteen two. All right, let's take the scenario further into the next possession for the Cowboys, where after the field go by New England makes it thirteen to six, and then the kickoff and the Cowboys wind up starting at their own eleven yard line. Now, as it turned turns out, and we can talk about the alignment of the deep guy Tony Pollard, and he should have been up at the ten rather than the goal line.

But the Cowboys they overcame that because they went fifty nine yards to Randall Cob and flipped the field and got down into field goal range themselves and wind up kicking the field gap. Heck of a player there finally got loose something offensively, big chunk play. That's the thing, like I said, I like about this team. We've got so many weapons to where Okay, Coop's not available, Yeah, we can still go with the Cob. That's going to be a mismatch. Gallup still came through with some really

good catches. I mean he drops passes and d at and T Stadium. Then he comes out here in New England and its wet is I don't know what he's sure handed this can be. And I figured we would make a couple of big catches for him. So on that kickoff, they were kicking into the wind and I'm sitting there, going the ball's not going to get to the endline, the end zone, end zone, so he needs

to be at the ten or twenty. Well, what they did was they brought Wally a little bit further back, and Wally was right there to catch it, and they called him I think he called it. I couldn't see, you know, you can't see if he said like outfield, it's like in the outfield center fielders coming up the center fielder and he's like, I got it, I got it, And all of a sudden he stepped out of the way. And that's what's what Old Wally was supposed to be there for to catch it. If it came out, he

had to be called off. He wouldn't just night catch it. And when he's put in there to catch it, unless he heard footsteps, well, I hope you heard. I hope you heard the voice, and maybe it was Polo saying I got it, I got it. And then when it drops, Polo's way out of position, because you know, you want to be as the balls coming in particular trajecture, you want to be within that trajecture. He was over to the side. It passed him. He had to go get it.

Then it gets back to where he lined up. Yeah, because he's running full speed to get there and you're looking up in the rain. By the way, he thought he had a home run hitter at the plate. He got up lined up on the warning track. And so now you got to start Texas, You got to start at the eleven eleven yard line, right, But but then they overcame that with the fifty nine yard or the cop Okay, so now we get down to the end

of this thing. Right. Now we get down to the end of that possession, which is just over six minutes to play in the game. And you got first down at the fourteen, zeke for three, second and seven at the eleven. Should have been zeke for three instead it was incomplete. Should have been third and four for three more and it was incomplete. Jar went in the back of the end zone and fourth and seven one. So how close was that in the back of the end zone?

Didn't look out? How close was it? Both feet? Yeah, when when Dak released it, I say, oh, I threw it out the out of the back of the end zone. I didn't think there was any chance when he released it. I was surprised it was as close at thinking this stuff it try happily against that. Very good. We can do sound good. We can discuss what they should have done. Unfortunately Plague Jarwin didn't catch it in bows all right, We can tue with more talking Cowboys with Everson Wall

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the Sooners. All right, We continue with talking Cowboys, and where we left off was with just over six minutes to play in that football game in Foxborough on Sunday, as the Cowboys faced a third and seven, the incomplete pass to Blake Jarwin in the back of the end zone, and if only they could have got a little bit closer and instead of facing fourth and seven, how about fourth and two, and they had that opportunity, they would have gone for it, right, fourth and three still would

have gone for it. Little Manage said, yeah, so you think that could have gotten gotten it too, Like if you had not thrown it, I thought on third down they should have would just say, hey, we're running it twice because it's the four down, it's four down territory there. But when you don't, when you're still at seven, yeah, I didn't question the call. I mean at fourth and seven, I think you take the points, but it's it's down

to that third down. You have a play in mind on third down to try to get you to a manageable fourth down instead of going for the end zone. That that was that's the issue. I don't know obviously what the what the thinking was there on third down, but that's what impacted it. So I agree, I would have tried to get it as close as possible, okay, to make it four. But at fourth and seven, I'm

taking the points. And the reason I'm taking the points is because now you've made it a four point game and there's six or four left and New England, in order to put the game away now has to score a touchdown. Okay, Hey, they go down and kick a field goal, you're still within seven. And if you talk to Troy Eigman, he was swearing, yes, that was the most horrible decision right right that Jason Garrett has ever made.

He was all over him. He might as well just extremely opinionated and just stuck a sword right, like, wow, wen't they teammates save? People don't consider? People don't consider. Okay, what are the ramifications if you don't make the first because if you go for it, you're gonna make it, okay, And you got Tom Brady leading that team down the field, and you have to say, we get it back if

we don't make it. Yeah, and all they got to do is kick a field goal, and now they had a ten point lead on you, and the game is over. He turns out defense did stop him. You got the ball back. Not only with two thirty eight left in the game, you also had three timeouts left. You got

what you wanted. And and so even as it turned out, even with the horrible call by the official and the Patriots take over with less than two minutes to go, minute forty whatever it was with at the at your twenty five yard line because you kicked the field goal. You're still in the football game, and all you have to do is get a stop and you're gonna I'm talking their last possession where they ran two plays and

got a first down. You get a stop there, they're kicking a field goal and you're still only down a touchdown and you got more than a minute left in the game. That's true, but that's why you kicked the field goal there. See, So Eightman's comments is what really sparked us to think more than definitely. But but again, I mean third down was key though, because if you'd run a different third down play, you get yourself in better possession. But where that was not his concern at all.

He was adamant about what a horrible decision it was to kick the field goal, period, regardless. And the thinking on that is that is that how many chances are you gonna have you get down there? Yeah, but you also have to think this is the best third down defense exactly. They haven't given up many testdowns at all that you haven't shown to be effective against him in this particular situation. Let's just just let's take our losses

right now, kick this field goal. We come back here. Actually, he actually said if I and maybe you remember Coby uh when it was first intend at the fourteen, when it was first intend at the fourteen, and you can't call me that young fellow. Good He said, they're in four down territory before they even ran a play, so he wasn't going to back off when it was they. I agree they were important. You just said that poor

down territory. As long as you get it down there to wear on fourth, then you're in a manageable situation fourth down. See and they and they they hadn't run that that that zone read play the entire game, and on first down they run it and basically New England stop the same thing against the Vikings, right, same play, right, And it didn't right. It was that close, and I don't know. When you're that close, everything's compacted. So the defense is not gonna get fooled to the point where there.

This is the new norm in the NFL. And I've seen it. I know exactly what you're talking about. When we grew up, Bill, you remember, they just had to stray dive play. Quarterback just turns around, he doesn't even have to move. I'm the center here, comes that fullback of that running back, he comes in right. Remember we grew up on that. Now, all the all offenses they take the ball to the running back and then let him pick his poison. And to me, they've done that

even in the end zone. And I mean day, I'm talking about all offenses in the NFL. They've done that even when they're in the end zone, so that there's no fear of that play. I think they feel that the defensive back is at a better advantage by having us give him the ball so he can pick the hole that he wants. Yes, and then all it got was three yards. Okay, So anything else of note from this game before we put it to bed rise upset Jerry was after the game. They've never the other thing.

He had some strong comments after the game. I haven't heard him that frustrated postgame interview, and I just read the transcript. I wasn't actually there, maker you there. I heard like a third of it, I think, and I left and I came back and he was still going. So here's what I say. If Jason Garrett is not as hands on it he needs to be in every facet of this game of his team, then he should get there. He should have abably been there. You know,

he felt that he had capable coaches. We've never had problems with special teams. And this is the first year where you can say special teams is a detriment to this team. Yeah, any other year, special teams is our strength. It's always the most consistent. And now this coach of this team is in the position that they're really not accustomed to, and it's costing us games. Two close losses in the last three or four games. The Minnesota changed

because of special teams. Yeah, you got a lot of young guys out, you know what, and and and they're coached and you know that if they can't do the difference, there's somebody starters out there. But it's for me. Yeah, as a starter, I'm thinking, well, I played special teams, but you're putting me on pot coverage. And how often does that happen? I think about you got forty six man roster, Think about the mistakes that were made. You know, Oh,

young guys. Then tell Bryan he's a rookie, never played in the league until the Cowboys put him out because of special teams. Let's let's not give him too much now, he's a wide receiver. Yeah, so the rules still stand your pot coverage or why if you're moving, Yeah, what you're doing and know the ramifications of if you move versus on the line, off the line versus. I assume he thought he was going to get there before the snap, that he was going to get be able to get

lined up and get set. And then that's the fullback has to say wait or because they kind of quicked out and the center doesn't know what's going on out there right. All he knows is he has a snapping right. And then the other thing we didn't mention the fact that when they were going to the left on the TV screen to kick that first field goal, which he had trouble with going in warmups, going that way, I was going, oh, I don't know about forty six yards right,

how did he miss? It? Bounced off the upright, right up the upright. Yeah, it was good. It was good until it faded a little bit. Very dramatic camera shot by the way on TV. Guess you can see the ball for the most part. If I remember there was a five yard false start in there by Tyrn Smith on that there was and if that thing was five yards closer, he'd have made it now it would have been thirteen twelve instead of thirteen nine. But that they

were that close on that deal. It's I'm about kicking from that side of the field because I think folks misses were both from that side as well, and warm ups in warmups, I didn't either. He didn't know he was still in the league either. We had a chance folks kicking. Somebody said, you know what, somebody in the press box that all folks just kicked like he did with the Cowboys, all folks and and uh and he

wasn't in the league a month ago. Wow, that he's the third rd they had guys, They had Mike Nugent before him, and so he's he's unborrowed time. No telling who the Patriots are going to have kicking for them when the rematch occurs on Groundhogs Day. You never know. It's sticking by it. I am sticking by it all right. That does it for Talking Cowboys. The break is waiting to take over to discuss all things Cowboys Patriots in

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