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Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's claud you're with us. It is a Talking Tuesday. We're gonna take your calls. Oh yes, we're talking to Cowboys Nations day. Well, the Cowboys Nations not very happy with their thirty one twenty eight loss to the Green Bay Packers on Sunday, So give us a call. Eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. And I know we normally saved this for Friday, but you're about to say so much your chess. We're about to say it all with our chests. Yeah,

did you get your push ups in this morning? You're ready to roll percoctly. Oh good, what about you. I didn't do any push ups today. Don't get down and give me this right now, give me twenty right now. They can't see that. Give me twenty. I don't care. I can see it, we can see it. Get down there to stop. The people at home aren't going to be fooled, but are listening audience to believe me. We are going to take your calls eight eight eight five

five two two nine seven. Isaiah's actually the trainer, so it was kind of interesting for me to say one time to him, feel good. It did feel good because he's usually give me more. You know, I'm gonna give I'm gonna give the people out there a little tip. Next time you guys have a bet, because I don't bet on I don't bet with money, right, So, next time you guys have a bet, bet push ups, but bet on demand push ups. So bet somebody down, yeah,

drop down whenever. Whenever you say dropped down, that's when that person has a dropped down. It's the greatest bet ever. Like, just bet them fifty push ups, okay, bet cool? All right now now it's locked in. You win, instead of betting money, handing somebody a twenty or whatever, it is now when you see them in there in the middle of the church service said, hey, that's dangerous. Save that. You save it. Absolutely, that's dangerous to play there with me,

because we'll be in crow grown out. Now, I'll be like dropping. You will be public bathroom. I will be like dropping. Give me five gross right next to the pea man. You're like walking and you're walking into your seat. Drip, walk into your seat in a movie theater and you're like, get me twenty and you you're hopping down. You're in the popcorn kernels. No, he's not gonna make you do a fifty one. He's gonna spread spread. You can have it drop down to give me two. Wait what wait? Huh? Yeah. Nice.

That's actually a good idea, but also terrifying at the same time when you think, actually, I will make a bet, but I don't know what to bet on yet. But let's keep it in mind. But this week we'll make a bet. We'll make something happen. All right, Well, let's do some news and notes. Let's get that out of

the way. Let's talk about what happened yesterday. Mike McCarthy, Kellen Moore, Dan Quayn All speaking to the media John Fossil as well, and then we've got players off day today, correct, correct, and then they'll be back at it tomorrow with a change schedule and everything. But Student News and Notes once again give us a call eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven. Leading with the injury report, um.

The only major injury knockoling Wood to come out of Sunday's lost against Green Bay was starting corner back Anthony Brown left with the concussion following that first Christian Watson touchdown. He was ruled out immediately. He is now officially in the concussion protocol, Hasbenson Sunday. When asked about it on yesterday, Mike McCarthy said that Brown quote unquote definitely has a

chance to go on Sunday against Minnesota. I would caution everyone to understand, though, that concussion protocol is what it is, and it is more stringent nowadays post TUA. So regardless of how anyone feels, if if Anthony Brown doesn't clear every single hurdle in the concussion protocol between now and I'd say Saturday, because he's also going to have to get at least one full practice in, then he may not go. So really touching go on Anthony Brown this week.

Will see how they go is. But there is optimism from Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys training staff there. As far as some of the events on Sunday, you know, obviously you heard or you may not have heard dan quinn. He was asked about the run defense. Mc McCarthy asked about the run defense, and I love what McCarthy said.

When pressed about Rundy, he said, pass rush is a privilege, and I love that because basically what he's intimating is that you don't get to pin your ears back and go after an opposing quarterback if that team knows they can run down your throat time and time again. So as furiously frustrated as he was on Sunday, he is making it clear, along with dan Quinn, that this defense needs to improve in the run capacity or in defending the run. Dan Quinn when asked, and Jerry Jones reiterated

this morning. When asked if the Cowboys have the right personnel to get that job done quickly, dan Quinn said, absolutely, it was quick, it was unequivocal, it was succinct, and then he went on to explain why he believes he has the right guys to get it done. I don't entirely disagree. I think it's just a matter of rotation how you're moving the pieces around, and I think once the Cowboys figure that out, then yeah, they'll get back

on track. Lastly, that'll b J guy, right, Jerry Jones this morning, the one oh five point three of him the fan was asked about Odell Beckham Junior. Obviously ceedee lamb is coming off of a massive game one fifty yards and three touchdowns, obviously had at least one key mistake that led to an interception, but for the most part, Jerry said that CD had the best game I've ever

seen him play. End quote. When asked if that means the volume gets turned down a little bit on the OBJ front, he was like, no, it absolutely does not. He said OBJ is an additive and that's how you should continue to look at it, and then he went on to express why it's not done yet. You know, but I would also say in remind everyone, free agency is a two way street, right and OBJ has as Iris has so eloquently pointed out all the leverage and

he has multiple teams at the table. So reports are OBJ is looking to make a decision by the end of this month, Cowboys. If they don't have an offer on the table by now, I speculate that they do, they will here shortly because the interest is as high as it was prior to the loss in Green Bay. Yeah, I think. I think I'm right on the same page as you. I think they've made an offer at least, and we don't have anything specific, or at least I don't.

You may have something specific, but I don't have anything specific telling me that they have made an offer. It's just that gut feeling that the way that they're talking, I feel like there's something out there. I want to go back really quickly before we take our first call. But the cornerback situation, you saw a lot of Kelvin Joseph. You saw a lot of dron Bland, two guys in the first two seasons in the NFL. Of course, second

year for Joseph rookie d ron Bland, Isaiah. When you went back and watched it, how would you grade their performance? I mean, where did it stick out? Because no Jordan Lewis, no Anthony Brown, It's Treyvon Diggs in a couple of youth valiant effort. Okay, the only thing that's wrong with valiant effort is it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to be successful. It is that a participation trophy. It's a participation trophy. I love Darn Bland. I love his game.

I love what he did through camp. I love what he did in the preseason. I love what he did when he s in the regular season. In his first appearance some weeks back, that was a that was this Hello Ricky moment. This past weekend he got Hello Rookie and it was by another RICKI so speed kills. One thing that was common for all those guys this past

week is they weren't getting their hands on people. I'm not sure if that's something that Al Harris was teaching them as a technique that they were to utilize in this particular game. But if that was the fact, then that wasn't that wasn't it not for this caliber of cornerbacks. You know, if you're gonna walk up there and get your hands on some guys disrupted, especially when you know that the gentleman across from me is faster than you make it difficult on them. They just had a rough outing.

I think that they tried hard. I don't think that there is any mental errors that I was able to find be at a film. But that's me assuming that the assignments are what I believe they are. But they just didn't get it done. At the end of the day, what do you think that it's just youth is growing pains? You're going to have that and would I would caution anyone trying to sell their stock on durn Bland. I

think that's wildly premature. He didn't have the best game, he didn't have the worst game, but obviously he let Christian Watson get behind him. And I'm with IRS on the fact that I would have liked to see them get Hansy with a guy that's as fast as Watson. You don't want to give him a free release because then you're really up against his speed and quickness. But you know, dron Bland not only had he's not just been you know that training camp superstar that's not translated over.

I mean, you saw what he did in the Washington Commanders game when Jordan Lewis wasn't able to go. He ended his first career interception. He was great in coverage, so I'd say he just had some growing pains. Kelvin Joseph, he made progress, he made some strides. This isn't the same Kelvin Joseph that might have played and might have gotten some snaps last season as a rookie. You've seen some development there, so positive signs. And he almost iced

the game with that forced fumble Aaron Jones. Jones recovered it, but that lets you know that he's he's taking some strides.

So they're gonna have to take their lumps, and this is a part of the growing process, and you you hate that it had to come at lambeau Field and in a loss, but they gotta gotta take the lumps sooner or later, So sooner better than later, especially if later is going to beat the playoffs, because you're probably going to need well, you're definitely gonna need to Ron Bland because Jay Lou's not coming back this season and Anthony Brown, you know he's not going to be out

for the entire season with a concussion, but the absence of jay Lou still creates that competition between Kelvin Joseph and Sean Wright for snaps going forward. So now you're starting to see what this this youth looks like at the cornerback position. All right, let's take our first call eight eight five, five two two nine seven. It is

a talking Tuesday. We're gonna take a couple more calls than normal this week, and we're gonna start things off where last night, the Washington Commanders did you a favor. I think they did their favor. I guess it's in fatable because now now now there's a team coming from behind and above you. I know there's debate there. I think they did you a favor. You're better than the Washington Commanders. They beat the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday Night football.

Philly no longer is undefeated. They also have a chink in their armor, and they're also back to being only two games up on the Dallas Cowboys. So I think they did you a favor. And out there in Philly right now, our guy Troy joins us on talking Cowboys. Troy and Philly. What's up my man? Hey man? Yeah, this whenever the whenever we have games like last night, this is always a great place to be for people like me. It makes it much safer for you to

roll in the streets of your hometown. Absolutely, um, hey, man, every time, um, we lose a game, because I think you learned more more about yourself and your mistakes than you do in victories. But every time I every time we lose a game, man, I see the same thing. I see a team that's just not being smart, um, And really from top to bottom, I can I can. I can just start, and I can just start with the you know in the front office that I get to work past the trade and trade trade that line.

But like Jerry in the nineties went for it, like he went for it and we won Super Bowls. Charles Helley going to get Deon Sanders whatever, he went for it, and that's not happening anymore. We're not winning. Then you go to the coaches, I mean, I agree with you totally. Said like Kellen cannot get out of his way with this run game he can like he cannot gather of his way first and goal from the ten after a turnover that should have been four runs. They're not gonna

stop you. You make that game fourteen to nothing with five minutes or so left in the second quarter, and you force a quarterback with an injured thumb and no receivers to throw the ball the rest of the game. And just like you said during the pregame, Isiah, I'm taking my chances with that in that game, with that player. So I don't on the offensive coaching, and it's not

smart on the defensive side. DQ. I love you, man, I love you, but you're having a problem with the run game and you drafted a big, strong, fast linebacker who could possibly help, and he's on the field for seven snaps. There have to be something done better than that. And then, like you guys pointed out yesterday, you have a rookie receiver who is porching you, porching you, and you have a cornerback who is who you're going to pay a boatload of money in a couple of years.

Follow this guy, make him, like you said, follow this guy to the tallet where he goes like it's just it's just not smart. Then you get on the field and you got your your receiver, receiver one who I don't think is a number one receiver and I didn't think going into the season he was a number one, but receiver one in your tight end running the exact same route and your quarterback throwing it to him in the end zone, Like I don't know that's not smart

to me. Then you got my last thing, then you got after a byde No less, you run the exact same play, make the exact same mistake that you did before the bye. When the bye week is supposed to be with yourself, scout, make yourself better, know what you are, found out who you are, and you make the exact same mistake. And I personally think that their explanation was as bad as the mistake itself. After a bye to say it was miscommunication? Are you kidding me? After a bye?

That's what you guys are saying after a bye. You guys are miscommun the King, I guess. I just don't understand this team is not smart when it's losing. And that's the part that's a problem. Now. They were smart for the during the during the Cooper Games Cooper Rush games, but it's like when that comes back, they go back to not being smart again. I just have a problem with that. I hang up and listen to you guys. Troy,

thank you so much for the call. And I mean, he had a lot of different areas there, but he also gets brownie points because he says he watches pregame live. Andy listens to talk to everyday, So Brownie points for Troy and Philly. Now I will say, I want to go back to what he said about traveling Trayvon Diggs to the rookie receiver aka Christian Watson, who torched you for three touchdowns. You asked Mike McCarthy that yesterday, Yes, what did he say? He basically said that the focus

was to stop the run. That was the focus going in, That was the focus during the game, even over the course of the game. And the reason they chose not to start traveling trevilon with Christian Watson Watson is because it would have provided While it would have provided support in coverage, it would have done so in the game where in their view from a coaching staff, Rogers was only throwing it twenty or less times at that point,

that was the pace of the game. But while he was throwing it only twenty times, he McCarthy said that he was efficient. He admitted he was. We talked about how Christian Watson subscribed to Twitter Blue and bought the verification checks against the Cowboys on Sunday, but the Cowboys just wanted to continue to sell out and hopefully at some point stop the hemorrhaging that was happening in the

run defense, and it just never happened. And in doing so, in scheming it that way and keeping it that way and trying to figure out how to bottle up Aaron Jones and aj Dillon, they just didn't want to take a defender out of that box and start traveling the guy. And I see what he's saying, but I stick to my hill, which is even though Aaron Rodgers only through twenty times the entirety of his production for the most but not the entirety, but the most of his production

came from this one guy. So if you stop this one guy, let the rest figure it out. And that's kind of how I felt about it. But put Treyvon on this guy and then let the rest of the guys figure it out. Yeah, No, really good point. And what he was saying yesterday, it didn't really convince me on not traveling it as well. I mean, I feel like I would have put your the guy who's torching you the bones, put your guy on them, make it work. It's not like Treyvon Diggs does anything in the run

defense anyway. Well, in what I would say, because Troy made an excellent point as well. And this is something that I brought up and talking on yesterday. This is something I actually asked McCarthy about in the press conference. Daman Clark, it's a situation where you could have traveled Treyvon Diggs and for that added run support, you could have had Demon Clark dropped right in the middle. Demon Clark had forty defensive snaps against the Bears, and that

wasn't planned, but it happened. So he showed you some things. But he only had seven defensive snaps coming out of the buy on a week where Anthony was out and Aaron Jones and AJ Dealing were torching you, and Damon Clark has show him from his LSU film He's a run stopping line back downhill guy. So asked McCarthy about that, and he said, well, the plan was never to have Daman take another forty snaps, which is fair, but not a lot of clarity on Howard got all the way

down to seven. Yeah. So next caller McGee in Mansfield, first time caller, I here, welcome to talking cowboys. Man. I appreciate it. Man. Hey, y'all deve doing this morning, doing fantastic. What's on your mind. I mean, so you know,

normally I'm a big fan of y'all. Now I'll watch a lot of the podcasts, but I always heard my man out there talking about my dog that and for me, I'm a big back fan, been a Cowboys fan since I was born and then eighty eighty so, but it never he never seems to get criticized like other quarterbacks. And I know a lot of people say you're not a lead or whatever, but it just bothers my mom how people put Justin Herbert as a lead, but he ain't been to the playoffs and my dog won a

playoff game with Tayson Gary. Um. I just feel like, you know, on a bad game and he put up twenty eight points. I mean, it's just even out the playing field. I know the America's team got the biggest fan base, but just even out playing Seal sometimes when it comes to him. So that's all I got, man, I please say it's all really really quickly. So you're asking for more credit for Dak Prescott. That's what you're

that's you're advocating for. Okay, I just wanted to clarify to make sure, but thank you so much for the call McGee. We will talk to you again down the line. What are your thoughts, um, I don't I don't believe that I've ever said that Dak's not a leader, at least for me personally. Maybe that's what I think he's saying in general. I don't think he was talking about Yeah, they, I don't know who says that. I think that Dak is definitely a leader. But I still believe that he's

a play action quarterback. I still believe that he has a long way to go to improve upon his accuracy of his throws, to put his receivers in better position to be able to get some yack yardage UM. And that's that's just my thoughts on it. I think his velocity is still lacking there behind some some of the other backs that you would consider elite in this league. And there's just areas of grow. Every quarterback has areas of grow. Those are just those are some of the

ones that he has to continue to work on. But there's other things that he does really well. You know, Dak Prescott's not the quarterback you want to play against when they when he has a solid running game. Toward the ceiling of Dak Prescott is certainly up there with the ceiling of some of the other great quarterbacks in the league. I mean he can be that ceiling now. His consistency, on the other hand, that's what's the problem.

You have drives and you have games where it's just on or it's off, and it goes back and forth. I mean, he's like a toddler with a light switch. Every once in a while. I'm not saying all the time that toddler will turn it on and he'll walk away, but then they'll come back and he'll play around with it again. So I mean it happens from time to time where that consistency has its ups and it's down. But you got to take the ups with the downs. Everybody's got it down at some point in the NFL.

I think that's where people get frustrated is whenever they see more down than there has been up. And so far this season, Dak Prescott has Tampa Bay and now Green Bay, where he didn't play very good against those

two teams. I would I would argue that, um, well, number one, it's not even debatable career wise, he has way more upston downs as far as would complete for the Cowboys and where the Cowboys would be if he were not under center over the course of the you know, past seven or eight years, um, and I would say

that the downs are not all equal. Right, So when you and you make a great point about Tampa Bay versus Green Bay, he absolutely crapped a bid in week one Tampa Bay that that there was no he just hates base Maybe that's what it is. Just doesn't like Tampa Bay or Green Bay. That's it Bay. I wonder how it feels about Old Bay. Old Bay. Is that in Baltimore? Maybe? Um, but no, I mean it's two different, two different um types of bad so to speak. Tampa

Bay he completely like craped the bed. I think he'd be willing to admit that as well. Sure he didn't crap the bed against Green Bay. His two mistakes, they were miscommunications. And I think and I agree with McGee and Troy and the fact that coming out of a bye week you shouldn't still be having those miscommunications. You could also argue that again, you know, how many games back is he right? He's not five or six games back. They still got to kind of feel it out a

little bit. And this is not me excusing that away because it should not happen. That it just it should not happen. Right, But not all bad is considered awful, not all good is considered equal. Deck still has more good than bad. And to me, he's still an elite quarterback, not interstellar. We're going back to it. I'm we're going to quick. I'm gonna keep twisting that knife for the don't understand the same. That's okay, all right, let's take

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doing well? Fantastic? How are you great? Hey? So, I have like a kind of a serious question based on what we all watched in the fourth quarter of the Cowboys were up fourteen points and we were running the ball really good. Do you guys think that Kellen Moore is going to get Mike McCarthy fired because he just refuses to play, you know, bullyball with the run game that we have. And why isn't McCarthy just insisting that they play this kind of playoffs kind of football in

these kind of game and I'll just love the show? Thanks, thanks so much. Ye good question. Who wants to start on that one? I feel like both of you would have good insight on how that works. I don't see him getting McCarthy fired unless McCarthy doesn't make the playoffs. Sure, but with the decision making in the way that that thing kind of trickles down if in terms of the play calling, if they continue on this course of not sticking to the run when it's being very successful, and

that leads you to not getting to the playoffs. That will put him in a bad situation. Aside from that, I can't see it. Yeah, I'll pig you back on that just a little bit and say that for the bad that you're seeing the miscommunications, you've also seen the Cowboys now figure out how to score the football right in twenty twenty two, So a lot of progress being made there. Kelle Moore just needs to be more consistent

with sticking with the run. But I've also now seen in twenty twenty two McCarthy being willing to put his hand down and say hey, hey, stop getting away from what's working. I believe that that's going to happen again this week. Kind of a recalibration, if you will, to say, hey, you did it again. You saw what happened again, So

let's keep it going forward. And because McCarthy is being more influential in making sure Kellen Moore makes smarter decisions going forward, I don't think that even ultimately if the Cowboys falter, don't make the playoffs and or make the playoff, or should say not and or but or make the playoffs and falter there, and it ends up costing McCart

his job. I don't know that I could lay that on the lap of Kellen Moore, because McCarthy has invoked his influence in the play calling, not by by calling the plays, but by making sure that you know, more often than not, the right players are being called in the right situation. I think it would just be a totality of things that didn't go well when things should have gone well. Again, it's a team coming off a twelve and five season. I predicted them to go twelve

and five this year. If they in fact keep to that, get to the playoffs, don't make a long run, then it's not all on Kellen Moore. It's just a totality of what was not accomplished since McCarthy had come in. So, yeah, wouldn't drop it all on Kellen Moore's lap, And I wouldn't drop on Dan Quinn's lap. And I say that to preface what I'm about to say. Now, if the run defense cast you again in the playoffs, you could argue that it would be more on Quinn than more.

But then that becomes a whole nother debate because it's the past rush that got you probably got you to the playoffs in the first place, so it being a very layered comversation to kind of to back in both

of your points. For you, it would take a monumental collapse for that to even be a possibility, of the firing of Mike McCarthy for that to even be a thing, because you would have to not make the playoffs, and of course if you're not going to bank the playoffs, thus there would be a monumental collapse on your end. You're saying it wouldn't happen because by the time a monumental collapse would already have gotten there, you will have already had Mike McCarthy come down and say something by

that point. And it's already happened at several points thus far this season, and again I think it's going to happen again this week in practice. Coming out of the Green Bay game, you're up fourteen points and you end the game with a lot of would not balanced pass versus rush, So you really should have been hamming it. And maybe even though Tony Pollard had had a really good game and Malie Davis tried to get some contribution there as well, I still think this is where you

missed Ezekiel Elliott, his running style. You missed him being able to punish those guys up front when you were up fourteen points. So yeah, that's a really good point. We didn't get to hit yesterday. But the fact that you can salt away a game with a guy like Ezekiel Elliott is a very underrated quality of his game. And I felt like this was, like you just said, a good opportunity for that to happen. Let's go to Philippe in La out there on the West coast in

Los Angeles, Philipe, how's it going good? How are you guys joining fantastic? How are you good? I wanted to talk about mainly why aren't we talking more about our defensive line. I feel like we're able to clearly put up points, but if we're not able to stop the run, especially going forward, and it's shown especially in the playoffs. I mean, it doesn't matter how many points we score, people are always going to keep it closed, especially with

the run. And I know Jesse's talked a lot about it is bringing in Sun. I think that's I forget how to pronounce his first name, but to help with a defense of looks like the stopping the run. Yam, I think that's huge and it is going to be our acquies. Heel. Philippe, thanks so much for your call. Appreciate it. And I mean there's a couple of options out there. I thought, at least whenever I was watching back the tape, the interior of the defensive line was

very disappointing. He called me Jesse. No, he was saying, Jesse was talking about it on Hanging with the boys. Have you mentioned awesome Wa at any point down the line? Is that who you're talking about? Oh? I thought he said awesome Wa? He was? He was? He was? He talking about the thomasin Sue. Have you brought it? Have you said it? Then? Though he may have called you, Jesse was given him a I was giving him the benefit of the down back beamer. Philippe, get back on

the line. Uh, what were your thoughts on now? Well, my thing is the interior of the defensive line for the Cowboys, um, particularly with Hankins there. I think it's I think it's solid and improved with Hankins there. But here's and give Craig to the floor in the Rogers and the Rogers and Rodgers as well. But to the I call it the Packers to Rogers, not that I'm wrong in doing so now, but give credit to their offensive coaching staff because they scheme this to perfection. I

was charting the first drive on yesterday. Shovel pass left to Aaron Jones. Right, shovel passed right to Aaron Jones. Follow what's going on here? Shovel pass left to Aaron Jones. That's three edge runs, you know, alternating right. So that's setting of the Cowboys interior defensive line up. It's basically saying we're gonna stretch you out and force you to think and cover it laterally. Those are the first three plays. Fourth play direct handoff to AJ Dillon. Fifth play, direct

handoff to AJ Dillon. These were eight That was an A gap in the B gap run Play number six direct handoff to AJ Dillon a gap. So to this point, these are all single back sets. Play number seven was the first play they did a two running back set. So I'll compress it and say this, stretch the left edge, stretch the right edge, stretch the left edge. Now you get the interior defensive line thinking laterally you go a gap, B gap, A gap and then on play number six.

You put both running backs back there to really confuse them. So it was more scheme, But it goes back to the crux of the problem for the Cowboys defense run defense. It's not the interior, it's the edges. If they can't contain and seal those edges off, it's going to provide it's going to create another stress point, which is the

interior of the defensive line. Tell your linebackers to help seal those edges, and I guarantee you will see improved play from that interior line looking at the interior on those plays specifically, I had this written them in my film notes. I said, interior getting bullied on the first seven plays of the game. That's kind of what I said, because they did. They went inside after going in, stretching it outside, then they went right back into it. And I think at that point, like you said, it was

op balanced. Nobody had their footing and the scheme worked against the Cowboys. However, have a question, and this is probably more for Isaiah, but with the way that dan Quinn runs stunts quite often, I mean there were times where there was miscommunication. It was a late step. They were running into each other, they were trying to twist

out of it. They were doing different things and it was all convoluted on the line of scrimmage at some point is if you're not able to get home on your stunt, how much does that put you behind the eight ball against the run? Quite a bit? Right, Yeah, I mean because you're off balance. So you're off balance, you're getting out of your gap. You're you're expecting somebody else to feel that that void that you're leaving to touch base on this outside run thing, right, And you're

absolutely correct. They were stretching you outside that they can hit you up tomato? Right, How do you stop outside runts set the edge? Not always? Okay, what's the other way? Not always? There was plenty of times where Michael Parsons had the edge, but guess what, it's a three hundred and thirty pound doo that's pulling and get kicking you out. Yeah, so you can have the edge all you want to. When that dude decides that he wants to four, you're

you're gonna move out to absolutely right. So that's that's containment, that's having the edge, that's that's keeping it all inside. But what happens is you got of alignment coming out and kicking you out. You want to be outside, cool, stay outside, We'll kick you out. So there's a misconception on how easy it is to stop runs. The difference is how do you stop those type of outside runs

and really just constrict everything to the middle of your defense. Well, your secondary support, your secondary run support has to come into it. I know there's a lot of conversations right now going on with the linebackers in the front seven and this defensive line. This the defensive backs of the Dallas Cowboys have to be more of a force in

the running game that I'm calling it. How I see it, if you have second secondary of cornerbacks, and you have safeties that are coming down and hitting and wrapping up, hitting and wrapping up because Donald came down a couple of times and hit and got moved back by two hundred and forty five pound running back. Hit and wrap up. Shoot the knees like we saw in Detroit. Get these guys, chop them down like some dog on some trees. All of a sudden, team stop running like that all of

a sudden. Shootly, yeah, let's not go up to air. Just try to go to sting straight up the middle because of the easiest point from point A to point B is what straight line, So I'm gonna go straight. The secondary needs to take responsibility for the lack of run support. It would help this defense out tremendously. Some of the best rush defenses have great corners that are willing to come up and hit. I don't disagree. I

just simply put it more on the linebackers. And it's weird for me to say this next statement because I didn't think he could do any wrong. But everybody has a bad day. And though Michael Parsons tied for the team high with tackles, he has seven. I believe. In charting the film, there were a couple of times and the second play from scrimmage for the Packers is one I'll point out. It was a shovel right to Aaron Jones. That was parsons assignment. Everybody else had was engaged right.

Parsons had clean I called it cleaner. He had clean air. But he took the inside shoulder angle and that kept that freed up the outside. So all Aaron Jones did was hit the turbo button and take that outside shoulder, and that should have been a two yard tackle for a loss, but it turned into a four yard game.

Maybe if Parsons does make that play, maybe it early in the game, mix Rogers and lafleur rethink their attack to Russian and they say, you know what, maybe this drive needs to turn into more of a you know, a West coast and go in that way. And that would have played kind of into the Cowboys hands. But it's one of those situations you're not going to see

many mistakes from Michael Parson's that was one. But if the Cowboys linebackers, which goes to my point, if the Cowboys linebackers, whomever that might be, and I do want to see some more demon Clark, if they can help set those edges, if they can make sure that they take the appropriate angle when it's your guy, it's one on one in space, you have to make that tackle behind the line of scrimmage. That will help change the entire tone of how offenses are approaching you. Yeah, it

could definitely change some things. Now, well, when we come back, you're on talking. Cowboys will take one more call and then we're gonna get out of here. We're gonna turn the page left of the Eagles First, that too after the call. Would you like to laugh at the Eagles? That makes you feel better? Did we clip that laugh sound that you've been holding that table for the entire dinner and you get to go up and walk outside. That that's a Kawhi Leonard laugh in the corner from

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it's kind of like watching Billy Joel performed live. It never disappoints. And I was like, wow, that's timely because Billy Joel's coming to AT and T stadiums or Stevie Nicks. Where Stevie Nicks ain't they right? I arst we started playing it. I'm gonna play it again here to man, you guys, we're gonna wait till we get off air. We don't have a musical license. I could get in a lot of trouble for that. All right, let's get take the call. Brandon and Las Vegas. Viva Las Vegas.

You're on Talking Cowboys Vegas. Brandon. You there, m Brandon, can you hear me now? Breast, Well, let's go to Anthony and Miami. Maybe we'll get Brandon. Anthony and Miami. You're on Talking Cowboys. You there? Hey, what's up? Guys? What up? Hey? I woked up for y'all man for this one. I heard, I heard them. I heard the young man said the sup thing. Um. I called in the show because I do the late shows now and talked. I was well and Nick and that mentioned in Dominican Sue,

and I said, I didn't want anybody in trade. I wanted to free agents Sue and obj Am. I right, remember right out there you with me on Sue. But it was like the OBJJ don't know pretty much on that. The reason I wanted Sue because Sue, when he supplies and range to the run defense, like you were saying, Patrick, they may run on the outside, but soon the way that Sue plays and the and the things that he command, nobody's gonna play around with Sue. And we need that.

We need a leader. We don't have a leader on defense. The launch. Thank you the leader to go where he represents leadership, but he's not a leader, and Sue would have brought that you need right now on this team. Discipline. What on the offensive side, on the of the side you needed for the coaches like Keller Moore who's scared like like the commander shows you how to play last night and how to beat a team like that, how to stick to the The guy has twenty four honds

for one and sixteen for the others running back. Are you serious that guy gets away from things because he gets happy and he thinks he just lost the league and wants to be pass happy. You need to You need to discipline on that side, and you need to discipline on defense with the penalties, and you stop the one game and you can fix a lot of palms with the Cowboys. So I just wanted to say that, thank you for your time. Thank you very much, Anthony Isaiah Thoughts. I didn't know you were so big on

the Ncdomiican Sue bandwagon. I didn't realize. We talked about it last week because sorry, he has attitude. He has attitude. You have talent on the defensive front. You don't have any attitude on the defensive front, not in the form of the interior. I think you have guys that are that are exerting really good effort. I think you have guys that are successful at times. But when you think about when you think about interior defensive alignment, and this

is no shot at anybody on this roster. You the teams that you don't run up the middle owner teams have got some goons and goon doesn't just it's not a reference that just utilize on your talent and how effective you are. A goon is utilized when somebody got attitude and it's just a cat. You just don't want to mess with it. And I think that so he brings that. I don't know if he still got it in terms of a player, I mean, I don't know,

but I know that he the attitude remains right. And if you could bring that to the room and teach them casts to have that edge to him and get that little nastiness, then that talent that they have it could be utilized the proper way. I don't disagree with the attitude part of it. He clearly has that. Um. I mean, there's there's levels to this. So they are dogs like I look at like Qubo is a dog, for example, to see an interstellar dog or an elite dog.

Stop stop this man. That one got Patrick, that was a good when you got me there. Um, but but Sue isn't fat. I mean he's a gool. And now the problem is is that can come back to bite

you in the form of guess what penalties. Every once in a while, you know you might see him out there stepping on guys U and I do mean literally it's been some years that said, Um, I just wonder why is he still a free agent if he does in fact have Because you make a great point attitude, the attitude you would love to have, the nastiness right and kind of instilling some fear into the heart of

opposing offenses. But the alternate point that is equally as as uh as obvious is he's still a free agent and they're thirty two NFL teams, thirty one outside of this building, and nobody he has picked. There's a choice, man, when you get to that age, you don't I mean, I know it's choice. You wait to say having a season. I don't think he's gonna be at home for much longer. Yeah, here's there's a lot, there's there's two teams that just

lost Devin's alignement. Could you agree that he doesn't have as many suits, says OBJ, of course, right, So yeah, well, Obj, you have a clear reason why he's not on the roster, and it was the injury he would have been on a training point. That's my point point, And that's to my point you Dominican Sue doesn't have an injury situation that's keeping him off of an NFL roster. So could it be that his play is he declined? Could that's a chance, it's a chance to what I think it is.

I think that he's an older player. Yeah. And if I'm gonna get out there and get my body beat up, I'm gonna do it for an opportunity to win a ring. Yeah. And I can't tell who's gonna have my opportunity to win a ring into the second half of the season. Yeah. Right, So you got you got teams like Miami loss of D Lyneman, you got the Chargers loss of D Lineman. Dallas needs an a front right needs and needs an impact player in the insight, So now you can see, okay, okay, okay,

it's kind of it's kind of panning itself out. Okay, these teams look like their competitors. Now let me go see who I want to go to. I just feel like Tampa although they have the interrastiller talent so vida vea, they still could have used in Dominican sue. Oh. When they were together, they were nast right. And the fact that they saw that tandem being nest and then said this offseason said you know what, we'll pass on you.

We're good on you. Yeah, M gives you pause. Correct, Okay, something's there, which makes it makes sense on the pause, but it also makes sense of reasoning. It's almost like bringing in a Jason Peters in an Anthony Bar. These veteran guys that are are not in their prime. They were great names in their hanks Hankins, I mean Hankins even closer. I guess he was never really that high level player that a bar in a sue fair enough,

and uh Peters at one point was. But this is the same kind of deal as maybe try and beef something up in the middle with a guy that you know is going to bring that veteran attitude and helping out. What if it's the situation where, um, what if this is just me spacially? What if the Cowboys might have some interest in adding Sue? And this is something for the lists and the viewers to kind of swirl around in their head after the show. But if there might

be some interest in Sue. But before the Cowboys go and do that, they see where things land with OBJ. And if OBJ land's here, what are those numbers look like? Salary cap wise a CIA, because that's that's the pink elephant in the room. Like, you want to make sure that you're not in a situation where you're going to get sued, maybe slightly overpaid. It will him away from someone else, and that forces you to put less money on the table for OBJ. I'd rather go for the

OBJ first. If you don't get that, then you get sued, or maybe you it's a situation where you end up with the win winning, which is obviously what everybody wants. I don't think you get OBJ. You get OBJ on like a two year deal that gives you some more room to double back and go and get sued because

the money's on the table. But eight games, you know, don't a lot of timeline, a lot of time left I'm just saying, don't I'm just saying, don't ruin the turkey because you're focused on the corn bread that two turkeys at the same time. We have so many metaphors on this show, so many, so many metaphors and similes. This is our son, I mean, yeah, that's it for us here on Talking Cowboys. Hope you had a great time with us. Were over the last forty five minutes.

This is it, gentlemen. We're putting Green Bay behind us. Okay, we're turning the page. We're going tomorrow to break down the Dallas defense versus the Minnesota offense. If you want a high volume, high profile, high intensity matchup, we'll buckle up because we're previewing it tomorrow because Minnesota and that offense is coming. By the way, we are going to

start a little bit earlier. Just nine o'clock is when we will get underway, so we're even We're even gonna do it a little earlier because we're that amped about this matchup Dallas defense Minnesota offense. Tomorrow for Chris be Isaiah standback, Patrick, No see walk around, Kyle Yoman saying so long here for Talking Cowboys. We'll see you tomorrow. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.