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Talkin' Cowboys: Game Plan & Predictions vs. Eagles

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The Talkin' crew discusses the QB career paths of Dak and Carson Wentz in their third seasons, as well as final predictions & keys to Sunday's game against the Eagles.

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The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's talking Cowboys, screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Tahours at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. What do you got there, Mickey? Cheerios? Cheerio? Do you cheerio? Battle Creek, Michigan? Here we come. Battle Creek, Michigan.

Is that where cheerios are made? I don't know. That's where I think maybe I get the wrong cereal company. No frosted flakes are made in Battle Creeks. Cheerios Uh General Mills. Okay, then that's I'm sorry about that. That's the wrong but frosted flakes. I'm a big frosted flakes fan. Battle Creek, Michigan. Both those serial of the Dallas Cowboys. I never know how we're going to open this show. I just never know. It's like good box of chocolates. It is to give a bunch of old men sent fact.

I was going to go a different direction, and then Mickey said Cheerio, and so I was gonna go with Oh, Henry are made to be Minnesota. I'm sorry, General Mills is in Minneapolis. Thank you can't appreciate that. Very good, Ken Garrison. He will be taking your phone calls over the course of the next hour as we are talking cowboys and talking Eagles. And I mentioned oh, Henry, because records are made to be broken, but there's one record that will never be broken, but it will be tied.

And it was tied last night. About the door said ninety nine yards and a half as Dandy Dunn put it back in nineteen eight, nineteen eighty two, eighty three, I believe it was eighty three. It was January. It was like the first or it was January second, nineteen eighty three. The Metrodome was really nice and warm that day. Yep, that's right, hold us Indoor Stadium. It's one of those moments. Do you remember where you were when that happened? Ers

Monday night football? I was a yeah, sophomore lsu as in Baton Rouge Diapers. Try right, Rob was a diaperswhere I don't remember watching it a lot. I mean, I don't remember the game. Is that a bar? Imagine laugh with a friend called the Pelicans War or something like that over right off I thirty five over here, right by Don Carter's bowler Gallley over there. I just had to in my mind, I have that. That's where I was when Tony door Sat went ninety nine yards and

a half. And I was on the phone last night when Derrick Henry went in ninety nine yards and a quarter. Yeah. Yeah, but at least he kind of got touched, right he kind of did he kind of he was he was touching another Yeah, he banging through people think anybody touched Doorset, which no, he I'd watched it back this morning. He

broke three four tackles. Yeah, and in his in his own red zone and then on the straight arm together sideline got to the right sideline and broke one about the thirty yard line and Jack Buck they replayed it. It was cool last night. Jack Buck did the radio call of that game, him and Hank Shram and was that. Yeah, that was great TV last night that they were able to find that video that quickly. You know what, you know how you I could find that in many minute.

You can you've ever been on the internet, but with but with Jack Buck at the call, Okay, you watch, I'm gonna find that he's gone. He's gonna YouTube. It's been on YouTube. That's the great, the great time machine, Taylor Taylor Stern. But I agree with you. I agree with you. No, Jack Buck made the call. What Joe Buck do in the game. I bet Joe Buck knew Jack Buck did the game? Hey go look this up. I bet Joe Buck is aware that Jack Buck did Monday Night football on the radio during that time. His

response didn't sound like like I knew my dad did that. Really, he didn't say that, didn't He said, how old would Joe Buck have been? Not very old? Then, huh, he's probably about forty five, thirty six years ago. Bill, that's something we can look up. I bet I can find that. It'd be less than a minute. Joe Bucks fifty. I bet he yeah, something like that. He'd been doing this a long time, and I think he started when he was ten. Seriously, it seems like, yeah, I think thirty

six years So you get what age you got. I'm gonna say Joe Buck was probably I would say, Joe Buck, what is he now? Oh, I think Joe Buck's probably forty three, forty three, forty eight. I'm gonna say he was fourteen at the time. The question isn't make you. I'm gonna make you do the math. It was thirty six years ago, I'm gonna say, Garrison pulling on. There he goes, Yeah, there you go. He found it in less than a minute. Make he right there, k Garrison

found it. Look at kid, that master arch. There you go. Broke broke attack as Jack down? Yeah, um okay, so forty nine years old? Who fifty on April twenty fifth? You win? I said he was fourteen. I thought you were joking. Okay, yeah, all right, y'all win being here with you? That's right. So there you go there. And if it wasn't for Bill and I, you wouldn't be here right now. That's debatable. I'm so sure about that. The show might be called something else. Here we go again,

there he goes with ten men on the field. Yeah, how about that? So what happened? Terrible radio right now because the Kitts Garrison showing the actual replay of the game. So as the story goes, Ron Springs thought it was a different play, so he subbed out and they only had ten guys on the field. Is that correct? Something like that? They set him somebody did and get the

playwright and they sent him off the field. And then they realized and then Danny White realized that they didn't have enough, and he was getting ready to call time out and the clock was going down or whatever, and decided, okay, let's run. It's just run it anyway. And the lady from the Vikings is not too happy. Cowboys did it again to him. There was the hill Mary and now ninety nine yards and a half long run block right there, man, great trap block inside. I gotta say, I gotta give

it to Tony d for having ten guys on the field. Yeah, but that run last night. Yeah, Derrick Henry Stiff arming three dudes on the way to the end zone was embarrassing for the Jaguars defense. Yeah, what has happened to that team? They lost eight of the last nine games. Happened to that defense? That guy's gonna lose his job. Tom Coffin's your next head coach. Here, Thomas is gonna come down. He's already got you noticed. Like they showed him the other day after the win. He's gonna coach again.

Oh yeah, he had he had the Tom Tom had the military gear on. You know, he was like you know he was. You sit up with the owner, the owner's son in the box, and he was, you know he was last week after the last. But he had on like like he was. He had on the coaching gear. Here it is ken't Carrison just coming up with it right and left? Here you go, here's that. There's one stiff arm. Watch watch Miles Jack try to make this. Yeah I got him, I got him. Oh man, that

Derek Herrins just beat. But Derrick Henry hasn't done anything all year, has he? Or in his career? That was that was that touchdowns and they tried to get him the fifth that they couldn't get in for one. Who was my guy? Yeah, the guy got all the sacks against this last year. That guy at Atlanta. That's like his Clayborne. That's the Adrian Clayborne moment right there. Derek n No. But the thing with Derrick Henry is, and he was the second running back taken in that draft.

Zeke was first. Now he's not the complete back at all that Zeke is. He can't and he wasn't used that way at Alabama and hasn't been used that way. Catching the ball out of the backfield with Tennessee. So we can assume that he can't do that, right, but um, you know, if you go back, you go back and look at what he accomplished before Alabama. I mean, oh, there's no question that's how I got him Alabama exactly.

But when you've got a guy with that kind of ability and he's done it before, you think, Okay, there's a good chance he might be able to do it at this level too. And you just wonder, and I don't know if he's had nagging injuries or anything, why he hasn't been utilized like he was utilized last night in his career and now he's more of a straight line,

you know, he's a straight about that. Yeah, But it is interesting as you look at the draft in different prospects, and I thought Derrick Henry would do something in this league and he did it one night. Anyway, one night he did Yeah, that's for sure, of course. And he's kind of like DeMarco Murray the way he runs, and that's why they they matched him up with DeMarco Murray

initially in his career in Tennessee. So Dorset still has the longest running now and here's always ten guys on the field well, and he'll always have the longest run in NFL history. Others can match him, but they can't break it. Right, So, all right, what do you got on the Eagles and the Cowboys? Mickey? You got anything from the practice field yesterday? The Eagles are pretty beat up.

They had more than a walkthrough yesterday. They had more than a walk through, and they had six guys that d and Pede, and five of them were starters I believe, or maybe all six of them were starters. All six of them were starters because I thought Avonte Maddox was a backup, but they got him listed as their starting safety. Yeah, so they didn't have him out there. Jason Peters, Jason Mills, Jordan Hicks, Michael Bennett, Timmy Joern again who they think

was coming back but evidently not back, and Maddox. So that's six starters and the majority of them on defense. Right, They've had a lot of pro is not secondary. That's a team that doesn't tackle very well. They haven't there having trouble covered as well. But you know something about this, you know, it's just kind of digging in a little

further about the Eagles. They've lost every game this year when they've had they faced a team that's rushed the ball for more than twenty two times for more in a game. That's interesting. Yeah, they have not won a game. And and and really a time of possession is really important to them too. If they have to play more than thirty minutes in a game, they get beat doing that too. So you know, I guess it. It kind of is hand in hand if your ability to control

the football by running it Dallas. I they had twenty eight carries in this Latin the last time they met one hundred and seventy six yards or so. Yeah, about sixty one a shot. Was that the one fifty one game for Ze? Yeah, I believe it was. Yeah, they six sketches thirty six. Let me tell you what if they they you roll that out there again. You know you gotta figure out how you know, you gotta figure out how to how to beat these guys. I've kind of gone back and forth with this, but I just

which do you get? Which defense is better? Yeah, so somebody's defense is going to have to stand up and probably win this football game. Which one would you trust? Right now? I'm picking Dallas defense, right Take Cowboy defense. Yeah, and you know, offensively, we've talked about it this week. Cowboys offense has been able to move the ball. It's not like it's not like it was earlier in the season where you're thinking, how can they manufacture points? How

can they sustain drives. They're sustaining drives. They just gotta finish drive. So day to me, or are closer to a more complete football team at this point in the season than Philadelphia. But they've got they've got to put it all together. As we talked about on the mailbag this morning on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Yeah, check it out and we talk about time of possession. Um, that's what the Cowboys offense did, even though they didn't punch

it in against the Saint thirty four minutes NET game. Oh, I'm sorry against the Eagles. Also against the Saints, there was a long time consuming drives keeping breeze off the field. Last week. I think the Cowboys net last game, if I'm not mistaken, had two drives that were seventy five yards or more and both ended up in touchdowns to Eagles.

What is so you know that I mean that that to me, you want to look for you want to look for something to kind of hang your hat on, find a way to find a way to run that football. I think you're right about the balance, though, Rob, I think they could throw. It's I'll tell you where I think the Eagles. Okay, let me ask you this. How do you think the Eagles think that they could beat the Cowboys. Well, they tried to do it the first time by throwing for three hundred and fifty yards. By

the way, Yeah, they couldn't run the ball. I think they had seventy seven yards or seventy five yards on sixteen or so carries, but they had four hundred and twenty yards total offense. Yeah, yeah, and a lot of it coming from that tight end. You know, Chunk plays through Zachary on him two touchdowns. Yeah. They probably look at that and say, we can we can find a way to win that match up again this week. But

how do the Cowboys counter that? That's the question. Because this quarterback is not going to be in the same spot ever. You get play like Drew Brees, He's gonna move. Yeah. Yeah, he was doing a lot of that the other night. Rollouts design stuff plays a big part of their game. Move in the pocket. He looks more mobile than he's been early in the scene, and he feels confident with that knee. Yeah, he's kind of playing reckless. I mean reckless in a way if he doesn't carry his throwing

his body around us. What he has to do? Not afraid of the injury? No, no, not anymore. But if you're Jim Swartz, what do you do to stop to Cowboys? You're Jim Schwartz. You're sitting You're sitting there. Okay, what are we going to sell out? Blitzing a heck of a lot. Okay, and take my chances that I can get to Dak before he gets to me, because if he gets to me, I'm in trouble. Yeah, that's a good see right good? I wrote. I wrote Cowboys win,

Cowboys lose. Kind of a thing today. It's something that's exactly what I said, Mickey, I said, you know, he's got to force he's got to look at teams, he's got to watch that tape and say, what's affected the Cowboys the most? The lack of pass protection, and all of a sudden, when it comes to lack of packets protection, what happens to Dak when he gets hit in the pocket occasionally drops the ball. I mean, this seems only created nine turnovers. So this season, think about that, Philly, Philly,

Philly has only created nine turnovers. But what's they've got to feel like that if they attack the pocket, that they could get one or two turnovers from Dak. Wouldn't that be your plan of attack if you were playing, and it might be the best way to Yeah, because that too, But like he said, sell out, try to get to Dak because your secondary's been compromised from an injury standpoint height of sixteen on third down against these

guys last time. Really too. You know. We talked to Scott Linahan yesterday his weekly meeting with the media, and he was asked about the forty five sacks on Dak. That's the most of the season, that's by far a career high for him. He said, kind of what we've said, it's not just one thing. You can't put it on him holding the ball too long or just the offensive line. He said, there's been some times. Or get to that too,

didn't he yester a little bit? Yeah, Yeah, every everybody's got a hand, And he said there's times where if you go back and watch Dak's looking to throw to a spot and maybe the receiver he expects to be there's not there, and that's when he starts holding it because he's you know, he's expecting to get rid of that thing. Uh So that's on you know, that's on

the receivers too. So I don't know. I heard there's something you can find on Twitter that's got every single a stream of every single sack Dack has taken this year, all forty five and you can just kind of watch it decide for yourself. I might go, do that have a video? Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it's see that's what I'm saying. You can't see the development down the field because yeah, because that's part of it, and that's the

Linehan's point. Yeah, Lynne hans point is that if if if you know, if Michael Gallup is supposed to run a dig and gets jammed at the line and can't get there in time, what's Prescott doing Is he waiting for him to get open. See that's the one thing that when you watch Carson Wentz play, he'll hold it and hold it and hold it and hold it until you know, he'll let guys. You know, he's got that kind of confidence to stand in there and make that throw. Dak of course put it on him. He said, it

starts with me. I've got to find a way to get rid of the ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that's it goes back to what you say, Mickey falls on the sword every time. I mean, he said, its collective effort. But and some of that is true. Some of that is having that clock in your head go off. I gotta get rid of it. But I don't think he's the primary culprit of this. I think the other thing is when you blitz him. And I still don't think the cowboy receivers do a good enough job of recognizing

here comes the blitz. I cut my route off right. There's too many times their backs are to him. Why he's got guys coming on him, and it's like, okay, where am I gonna go with the ball. That's a good point, Yes, I think if I'm swartz, yeah, I'm worried about what do you have to lose? Yeah, I'm worried about them running the ball. I would be worried, but I'm more worried about them just picking me apart throwing the ball. I mean, he didn't, I mean it

was great. I mean eight of sixteen on third downs. That was that was like a miracle for the Cowboys to do that. You know, that first meeting, it was a thirteen thirteen the fourth quarter, in the fourth quarter, and then the Cowboys put together a seventy five yard nine play drive where Zeke touched the ball seven times on that nine player drive. Okay, then so it's twenty to thirteen. Then the Eagles come back another zach Ertz touchdown, and it's right down the field seventy four yards and

seven plays. It's twenty twenty with seven twenty seven to play in the game. Cowboys get the ball back and what do they do on that drive? Drive forever? Yeah, it was completion for seventeen to Schultz, completion to Cooper for twenty four, Zeke plus two incomplete completion to Herns for twenty three down to the nine yard line. And then it was zeg zeg Zeke touchdown. Yeah. But so that touchdown drive was a passing, but it was set up by the previous drive where it was Zeke, Zeke, Zeke.

We kind of feel like though at that point time, the Eagles secondary was really compromised. They'd lost guys, and that those latter part of that game so turning. They're compromised now. They're compromised now though, But I mean, I'm with Mickey though I wrote it that way. If the Eagles are gonna win this game, it's gonna have to be attacking the pocket. Yeah, it's gonna have to be

creating turnovers, which they haven't done. But but Dak has shown sometimes when he gets hit in the pocket, ball security has not been a strength, you know, because he's trying to do too much. He's trying to break away. Maybe, so yeah, and it will help if see if Fulo doesn't get pushed back into him and knock the ball out of his hand. Yeah, we got an old offensive lineman here? Is there an old offensive lineman here? Here? Mickey? Okay, yeah,

he was a linebacker, is there? I centered sometimes, right, even at this level, is there a communication between an offensive lineman and a quarterback when a guy gets beat on a pass rush? Oh yell, yeah, yeah, yell yeah, I look out, oh yell yes, yeah yeah yeah all right. I was listening to someone in the last month. I was it was an offensive lineman, a current offensive lineman

talking about that for another team somebody. Yeah, and he's talking about the importance of that that for our quarterback, the importance is communication than off And I've never thought of that before because of a loud stadium and everything. How in the world, because's gonna hear an offensive lineman telling him to get rid of the ball. There's a

lot of frustrating out. I said, a lot of times, there's a lot of frustration from offensive lineman because the quarterback is still holding the ball and they're yelling at him to get rid of the football. Yeah, well, it's your responsible a to block first and then second, so you should be like more worried about blocking than yelling. But no, I mean you you just you could anything any noise, I mean, hey, right, you know, like anything to get him to kind of you know, hurry up

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Of course you've been a judge for the cheerleader tryouts for as long now, probably ten years. Yeah, a lot of pressure, hunt it is. I would be a judge if Mickey tried out. Oh, I would just judge. If you're sixty years old, you don't want me to be your judge? Shoka obviously, all right, Bill's fuddy, what do we got this guy? It's just you just say whatever's on your mind. The filter is gone, right, it's just gone. Every reason they tried out was to get attention. That's

what happens when you hit sixty. We have to look forward to five more years. Bran, Yeah, there we go exactly? Or is it sixty five? Probably six? Maybe? Yeah? Okay. Cowboys Eagles. We talked about some of the keys there as far as what the Cowboys need to do offensively defensively against the Eagles. What will be the key? Gotta

be something that happened that secondary, don't you think? Well, I mean, I hate to be repetitive, but zach Ertz, when you catch fourteen of sixteen targets and you tie the game twice in the fourth quarter, second half, he's cover them. He's a problem. He's a problem because I don't know if they have one guy that can just go stick this guy for see. That's you know, Mickey had a good play and he told you that they played some zone that did really didn't work out great.

Out of the sixteen targets he had, at nine that were zone plays, I'm taking my chances and trying to play man coverage against him. I'm not. I am not letting him. And again I've I've talked about ideas. Do you do you put Byron Jones over there for one or two snaps? Do you try and mix it up? I think that's what you have to think about doing in this game. You can't just say, Okay, Jeff Heath, you've got him this whole game. But somebody has got

to try and deny him the football. You know he can if he have four catches, five catches, great, Just as long as that, okay, fourteen catches could kill you in this game, you know. That's that's the That's what I worry about is you know, all of a sudden, they get into a mode where you know, you don't have an answer for him. And now it's it's he's converting third downs and he's converting you know, first downs, he's getting nine yards. I'm first down to make it

second and one. You know, those are the things I'm worried about in this game. Yep. And I think you're right about that, Rob, I really do. And I hope they have not hope. I know they have a plan. I just I don't know if the plan is mix it up or just go with Heath. I would mix it up as as much as I can. I mean, it's just a matchup problem for anybody he plays, because he's he's too quick for linebackers. He's he's big and

physical against safeties in corners. So I mean, it's just it's kind of what Jason Witton was in his prime, you know. And again I think you're right. I think you got to throw different things at him, probably to try to well, you got it. I don't. I don't want to give Carson Wentz a look at Okay, this is where it's going to be every single time. And that's why it was explained to me that you mix in some zone to change the look for the quarterback.

I have to change the look for the coverage is to change or for the receiver, but change the look for the quarterback, hoping that maybe the zone will confuse him or you hide the fact that it's zone or man demand they got him in the zone on the intercept, you know, on Vanderesh's interception, that was a drop. I mean that was a drop, straight drop and then and then an angle by Vanderesh and Carson Wentz didn't see him.

So there's your zone. But man, I mean, there's just that guy running in zones just scares me because he has such a feel for where to sit, especially if you don't have Sean Lee out there. Yeah, speaking of that, did you see halftime of the broadcast last night? The telecast last night, Rob, were you watching? And okay, they've got the all star the Hall of Fame cast on the halftime show, the guy they don't they don't have Menifee on there, and I bet Kurt is just livid

that he's not a part of that. On Thursday nights, Michael Strand's hostess Straight it's stray Hand and Bradshaw and Howie Long. Yeah, okay, And so at the end of their halftime segment last night. They said that it was just a quick little blurb Bradshaw and Howie talking about the Cowboys and Eagles, and that they get and one of them said, and they get Sean Lee back and he'll be starting against the Eagles on Sunday, and that

I'm sitting there going Minife would have yeah, confer that. Yeah, you know, that's what happens when you get the Hall of Fame cast of characters on them on their Yeah, and someone he fed them bad information. Exactly right. I love the Fox Free game more than it And and and they saw the quote from Jerry is all that all the way? They saw the quote from Jerry that Shaun Lee's gonna start when he comes back, but they didn't go so far as to research that or even keep

up to date. So I immediately tweeted that in contrast to what you just heard on television, Sean Lee didn't practice for the second straight day today, A lot of times national stuff. It's very high level analysis because they've got so that was the teams at Peeve. I just threw out there. I can't watch the halftime show on Thursday's Watchable. Oh yeah, oh watchable because I just I

don't like it. Yeah. There it show business. It's not football. Yeah, they're trying to entertain Joe Schmo walking down the street in New York City, right right, I don't care about us, right, and so information gets lost. So anyway, go ahead. I think Rob, you were making a point. Done, I was not. Okay, I was finished your point? Yes, okay, done, and we all agree with him. That's right. But vander Ish all

right about Golden Tate? See that? And so what's going this is what's happened now with Golden Tate in their offense here in the last month because it was his first game with the Eagles when the Cowboys played him the first time. Bill looking for Golden Tate to be Now he had some production this past week against the Red Skin. Yeah, I had a little production. But you know, but before that, I mean, it hasn't been like a Mark Cooper. You know, Mark Cooper's coming here and kind

of taking the world by storm. You know when you look at what offensively, what he's been able to do. But I yeah, I think you have to worry. I you know, they know they've got other they've got other things too. I mean that's you know, with with Jeffrey and Matthews and and you know with and I can't believe Nelson Aguilar. I mean, these are guys you have

to worry about this. This is a group that you know, last week when we were sitting here talking about the Saints, we're talking about Michael Thomas, right, ye thought Michael Thomas, and we're like amaze that the Saints moved the ball as well as they do with what they have. I mean there's I mean, they don't have receivers. This camera is your second. Yeah, this crew right here, they have receivers and then kick the tight in in there and

now they really got some receivers. Dallas Gutter too. Yeah. But but what what they're gonna have to do is Dallas is gonna have to be able to match them. And do you have enough? Guys? Do you feel like you have enough? Do you feel like that what you've seen from Jordan Lewis and what you've seen now from Anthony Brown, and what you've seen from a Woozier and what you've seen from you know, from h from Barron Jones, do you feel like you got an enough guys to

match what they're trying to do well. I go back to something you or Mickey said earlier in the week. I feel better about it also because of the pressure you're getting from your defensive line, especially those guys just that platoon in the middle. Yeah, Woods, the human law Tyrone Crawford doing whatever's asked of him. Um, obviously to Marcus Lawrence. Just they've got guys that are providing pressure. They're upfront and Tank is the key. But that that

helps the back end. I mean, they're they're getting a lot of contributions from guys as part of Marionelli's rotation. It's been that's that helps balance things out. But it's a good It's a great question because you kind of put it on par with maybe the Atlanta game in terms of the number of weapons that you have to defend in the passing game. It's a lot of different guys for sure. Well, you know what Marionelli's answer to that question was better stop to run. Yeah, because if

they get that going, then you're big trouble. Yeah, that big play action team. He's right about that, and that's been huge for the Cowboys, the ability to stop the run. It looks like two and it looks like the Eagles have gone with Josh Adams is right, guy that's been their primary runner. And we all, I mean, if you've you've seen Josh Adams, we've all you know. He's a big, lumbery guy. That's you know he's but he's got some He's got the ability to run away from you too.

I saw that at Notre Dame had he had the knee problem and that's why a lot of scouts got turned off by him. But you know, he's a physical Cowboys did a great job at playing against the run last time. Although Josh Adams had seven carries for forty seven yards again yeah yeah, Now Clement had five for thirteen. Yeah, there you go. But you know what a lot of

that They were behind two in that game. But one of those, one of those Josh Adams runs was for twenty nine years I figured, so okay, so that was six for eighteen otherwise three parts carry, Yeah, one big chunk play. But a lot of that running stuff is with the quarterbacks hocus pocus with the ball. Yeah, he's good at that, no question. It's pretty deceptive back there

and he he hides it awfully well. Yeah, and he'll pull it down and run out, or he'll you know, hand it off and it looks like he's still running with the ball. That's the part that I think scares me the most. Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott both drafted in twenty sixteen. Who's had the better career so far? Both of them? Both of them have been considered MVP type players in their career. I put it about even about even, maybe with a little edge to Dak because

his teams went in division right now. But you've got Prescott, you think so Pruscott? I agree, Prescott very close because both guys have had a magical season one and then they have kind of had to gather things and right the ship the year after. Who's been the most consistent? Hey the kid? That kid turned over the ball a ton his first year, and he's right a ship and they were on a hell of a run. I got some numbers for you, Yeah, okay, Prescott one loss record,

Dak twenty nine and fifteen, Carson Wentz twenty three and sixteen. Okay. It's a lot of the season though, right, So miss got a hit or hurt at the end? Yeah, miss three games or so right the end, it's like two games yeah, okay, So these are their career numbers. Completion percentage Dak sixty five point seven, went sixty three point six yards per attempt, Dak's seven point four Wentz seven point zero touchdowns to interceptions. Dak fifty nine touchdowns twenty

two picks, Wentz sixty seven touchdowns twenty eight picks. So Wentz has what is at eight more touchdowns but six more picks? Right in what Dak has quarterback rating ninety five point five for Prescott ninety one point eight for wins. Yeah, Dak has seven comeback wins, twelve game winning drives, Wentz four comebacks, four game winning drives. Well, there you go. I mean, there's just numbers, But I mean I I think that both organizations are very happy that they have

the guys they have. But yeah, I don't think it's especially where you got dad. Yeah, especially yeah, where you got him absolutely for what you're paying him. Yeah, here's a stat, one more stat. Tom Brady is the only quarterback with more wins than Dak Prescott since twenty sixteen. I know Mickey thinks Brady's overrated. I heard of that thirty two to twenty nine. I mean, the guys won a lot of football games. You know, hadn't been perfect, no question about that, by the way. I mean, we've

talked about the sacks on him. You know what his numbers are during this four game winning streak, despite the pass protection not being what they want it to be, about seventy five completing his percentage yeah yeah, four touchdowns, no picks, and his quarterback ratings one oh seven point two. He has really elevated. When he doesn't turn the ball over, they win. That's that's the bottom line. He finds a way to win games when he doesn't turn it over.

And that's that's the thing that worries me in this game though, if you do have a breakdown a sue of Philo, you know, or or Lyle Collins has a breakdown, you know, or Joe Looney gets beat up the field right in the face, that's the thing that scares me. Cowboy's offense doesn't scare me other than that scare me as far as because what they have with a Mauri Cooper now in their ability to run the football, you know, or throw it to Zeke. He's had no picks, yeah,

or touchdowns, no picks. Um Brian, where are we on Connor Williams right now, he's healthy. Right, he's not on the injury report. Oh no, he's healthy. And you know jumbo blocker for Yeah, what they what they've done with him now is that you know. Now the other day he got more work because of they were resting Sue Philo a little bit. But you know, we asked coach in the walk off, he's not making a change there.

He's going with Sue Philo and you know, and and but Connor Williams is working both at the left guard, he's working at the right guard. He's actually someone told me he's getting some work as a tackle on the scout team. So they're trying to you know, I mean a scout team, you have to fill in and do some things. But you know, he's at least getting some opportunities to take some snaps there too. What do you think is his best position, Connor Williams best position long

term in this league. It's gonna sound crazy. I think he might be a center. That's exactly what I was thinking. Why that's interesting, it's so sunny. I watched him, how athletic he is, and the way he bends and how flexible he is. And how he could get to a

second level. I watched the Saints offensive line coach work him out as a center, and I'm thinking, I thought it'd be interesting and the just the movement, the snap, the step, the body positioning, you know, not having to be overly powerful, but but able to like you know, get to second levels. Like I was talking about, center might be his best That's exactly what I asked the question. I thought the same thing, that maybe center might be his best position. He's pretty sharp. Yeah, no, he yeah,

he is. I mean that's that's the thing that I think if if we'll see, we'll know if he if he adds weight, if he goes from say two ninety six or three hundred whatever he is, and gets to three twelve in the off season, then you know, you could say, okay, keep him at guard. But the fact, you know, it sounds I'm hearing very positive thing. I don't know if you guys are as well, very positive

things about Travis Frederick coming back next year. Right, And I was thinking, if you didn't have a center, if Travis Frederick was like long road to ho you know, I think I said that, right? Did I say that wrong? Yeah? Right, Okay, long road to ho there, and you know, he I don't know, I don't feel good. You know, it's gonna

be tough, it's gonna be trouble. And you're thinking, Okay, do I have to draft a center or do I have to do I have to get you know, do I have to get pick a center in the second round here? You know, because you know that's kind of where And I was thinking, well, maybe you could play Connor Williams at center if Travis Frederick couldn't, I would work which I would work with him as this, I would play him some at center. I would just do.

There's a possible as much as anything, there's a good possibility that Joe Looney, this is gonna sound crazy again, Joe Looney has played to a level where somebody will could potentially give him an offer that the Cowboys can't match. That would be after next year, after one more year. Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean because you think about what they've invested in their offensive. Yeah, to this point already exactly, he's been such a valuable So he got nineteen Okay, my bad,

bad thought there. I've been thinking that he was he was not under contract next year Yeah, that's bad thought on my part, but yeah, I just kind of feel like that. Connor Williams to me is a guy that just he looks like a center to me. You know, if you look at if you look at the way he's built. Three hundred pounds. Yeah, normally if you're three hundred pounds in this league, yeah, you're playing as an offensive lineman. You're playing center and not guard or three ten.

Don't don't chip him three tens the I forgot to combat. But you know what the other things. The other thing is he's still twenty one years old. That's exactly right. I think twenty one yea. They cite Tyrants how young was tying twenty and he needed a year in the off season program. He put on weight, he put on strength, and they think this, this young guy can do the same. That's yeah. If if he, if he, if he takes the Tyrant Smith career path, then you're thinking, okay, keep

him at guard. But I would kind of try him at center too, just to see, you know, just take the posibility. Also, let's be a little bit honest here too. You know, Travis Frederick is a really really really super sharp guy. You know, Travis Fredick to me, seems like a guy that I'm gonna do this for a couple more years. You know, again, take my money, do things. You know, he's got to do things in life. I think he wants to do. You know, somebody's offensive lineman

or that way. They get a plan in their head. They're like, Okay, I'm gonna play you know, six, seven, eight, ten years, and then I'm gonna go do something else with my life. You know. I mean, at least he would protect you that way, if you know, I definitely would try him though this summer, you know, when training camp, maybe a preseason game or two, I definitely try and see, you know, if hey, it's a backup, that's not a

bad idea. Betty's three fifteen easy, maybe three twenty by time they see if that's far from the fetished product. If that's it, then by all means, keep him right where he is and it'll be infinitely more stronger. I just don't think they're gonna move Collins though. I don't think they're just gonna I mean, people want to say, oh,

put him out, tackle and move Collins inside. I don't think that's gonna happen well, just like they talk about Zach Martin could be an emergency center, it would be it would be great to have another interior, your offensive lineman who has the ability to play center. Yeah, in case something tackle he's at too. Yeah that how about play off five positions? How about having Connor Williams kind of be a poor man's Zach Martin where he could

play fill in in any position. But you got to figure out where he's gonna you know, I don't know if it's gonna have a loss or two to change things. I know Mickey was asking about I would put Connor Wams back in there, and I think I'm quoting you right there, Mickey, AMMI, I did say it. Yeah, so you know, but I think that to me, these coaches are going to continue to roll with Sue of Philo until they feel like, Okay, it's not it's not working.

Where Mickey saw some slippage last week and then it turns into some more slippage and then another you you hope it's not too late at that point in time. But I think we're closer to Connor Williams coming back oh than we are Sue Philo keeping on playing. You've got him in your hip pocket and he started how many games before this change was made after the nie scope sue Philo's fists start. Yeah, so you've got a guy that started a lot of game, more games than

the guys starting for you. Now, who's ready? You know, if you if you need to make a change, we'll see they did it. Do sound like Suaphilo's moving around better this week, And I think that was I hear you, Mickey, respect your opinion, but I think that was a huge

factor in the vast difference in his play against the Saints. Yeah, if you see more whippage though, you know, if you sure, if you see you know, you're better off going with the guy that you're thinking, Okay, this is the future guy, this is you know, this is my guy, and he is still the future, no question. It was the future. Yeah, and you know you want to get him those opportunities if you can. If you're starting to get the feeling that they're gonna have to go another week without Tyrn

unless you know something. I don't know. I mean limited again yesterday. Yeah, I just feel like that we're closer to that one being okay, okay, I don't know. I mean trust me, Micky. If if there's something you're no, I don't. I just I mean, he finally was working when they do those skeleton before practice with the first team. I asked, I asked somebody about this, and they you know, if he had if you practice six plays, he was

getting four of them. That's kind of where. But you never know, he'll he could wake up Sunday morning and yeah, Sunday morning and the next thing, you know, we all look like or I look like an idiot for saying, oh, no, Tyrant Smith's back. But you know, it's just it's something that you know, if you just go on practice or what people are saying about practice, I think him having it, if he goes today, I think I would feel a lot more better about that. But I kind of also

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There might even be a double header. Well who does Carol play? Carol plays Duncanville. Who is that? The four huge any game? It is the marquee matchup of the weekend, the two unbeaten one upon o'clock. Highland Park plays Tyler John Tyler. That's a good one, yep, but it's a good one. Campbell available for that one. I don't think he'll be available to play, but he may be there.

Who go and uh? Then it is south Lake Carol and Duncanville at four thirty, followed by Denton Ryan who it has a very good team against Birdville in the nightcap at eight o'clock. Triple header tomorrow. I may get a cover them all. I'm not covering them. I'm just going you're going I might catch the afternoon week you and I've got Star Sports Tour when I finished over there, and why what time is your deal? Fifteen to one

forty five, two o'clock. Okay, So Highland Park will be playing in and Chad Morris's son, Chandler Morris, is a junior quarterback for Highland Park. Right, take the ark taken up where yeah, the Arkansas coach taken up where current Arkansas razorback John Stephen Jones left off the last couple of years leading Highland Park to state championships. So anyway, and I can watch maybe the first quarter, maybe the half of that. We got Army Navy tomorrow too, yep,

Army Navy ya tomorrow. Also, I know where I'm parked. Yeah. I love Army Navy, I really do. I hope it snows again. You know that game a couple of times was in Philadelphia when we were in Philadelphia for a Sunday Cowboys game. But when you got there early enough to go to it, what you gotta do is I know me personally, I would have flown early. Yeah if yeah, yeah, it's it's it's one of those things like you should have to go to a November game at lambeau Field.

He has a bucket list thing. You should have to go to an army Navy. Who are you picking? So I'll tell you what man Army has been impressed. I think I'm gonna have to go with Army. Army team that can take one of the final four teams to overtime. Army. It's great, but there's so much there's so much on the line for those teams and it and you and you just never know. I mean, there's so much history between the two. My sister's making me mad now, she's

texting me from Philadelphia. It was a bucket list thing. Got Yeah, going to the game to absolutely good Navy game. Yeah, if you could do that. You know, the first time I was in Philadelphia when that game was being played them they were still being the game was still being played at Franklin Field. Franklin Field, Yeah, yeah, because if I remember correctly, Franklin Field was close to the Vet, wasn't it. Yes, not too far away. And I remember one year we had our parking pass. Media parking pass

was at Franklin Field at the walk. But I remember seeing it and the whole scene there was and I'd try a two o'clock kick out tomorrow, Dallas. Time for that. Watch Army nine and two on the seats. The Navy just three and nine? Okay. Whose army lost too? Yeah? The Oklahoma was one of them, yep. In overtime and they might have lost. They went and went on the west. Did they lose to They lost maybe a West Coast game or something like that that Navy played Notre Dame.

They lost the first game of the year to Duke Duke Duke. Yeah. Anyway, this is this is switched because usually Navy challenge right for years, Navy, we're raised waiting. We're having Army Navy talk. Go ahead, okay, Ray and for Worth you're next up on talking Cowboys. Ray, Hey, how you doing, guys? A couple of points, I thought,

I think you're on the summer. Connor Williams's center. I thought coming out he'd be better center than the guard, and I thought he'd be more like a of an all pro ton of center if you put him there. He's just not strong enough and ready. Now. I'd leave to a field to win there right now, because too many times you've seen him get stood up or push back. You go back to the Cincinnati game and in preseason, and they constantly wherever they put over that she's drove

him back. And regardless of this game, this is a team. We finally get a chance to put this that horrible team, and they're they're they're ridiculous fans and send them packing. We just kick their ass and sent them back home. Go Navy, bad Army. All right, right, Wow, I thought we had was a Navy fan. Yeah, for I thought he was talking with the Cowboys there for a minute. Was he talking about Army Navy? I think sent that team packing. I think he mixed metaphor US there. I

think it was just the reference to Army Navy. At the very yes, I think he was talking to Eagles. I thought, yeah, I thought he was. He was talking, and then at the very end he threw in, I don't think the fans of either of the institutions are really bad, right, God, I hate those Navy fans. Actually, actually those those those kids that walk on that field or trained to die before they lose, that makes them special in that regard. Yeah, all right, let's go around

the horn. We got picks. Okay, who's going first. I'll go first. Brian's going first to win and pick the click. I've gone back and forth on this game. I really have, and I feel like though that the Cowboys are better equipped defensively to handle what Philadelphia is gonna throw at him. Though it's gonna be a tough game which team stands up defensively, but I think Dallas is better equipped. I like Dallas's ability to run the football in this game,

I really really do. I think the fact that they've got some things on the outside that they've been able to do, but running the football is going to be the way to win this game. We talked about the Eagles have lost twenty or have lost every game this season when they've given up twenty two rushing, twenty two rushes or more. I think the Cowboys just I think the Cowboys get that number and more, and so I think that'll put the Eagles in the world to hurt.

I'm gonna go with the Cowboys in this one. I think they're gonna get I think they're gonna get twenty four points. I think the Eagles are gonna get sixteen. I think Dallas will be able to hold him in check. So twenty four to sixteen Cowboys, and this will end the Philadelphia Eagles season, and you have a pick to click. Jeff Heath need Jeff Heats Sorry about that? All right? How about this? I'll go for that. You can go in there, no know how how about this? How about

how about this? Let's go with let's go with Suafilo. Then I'll go with that because they're gonna have to be able to run the football, and I need him. I need that. I need the physicality inside. I need those three inside guys to be really physical to match what the Eagles are gonna go. So give me the

three inside with Suafilo being the focus there. Okay, Rob Before Mark Sanchez went in with all the Washington injuries, Eagles had given up four hundred plus yards in their three previous games, including the Cowboys in that first meeting. Did a better job against Washington, but there are plays to be made against Billy's defense. Cowboys have shown they can move the football, They've just got to finish drives. I've got the Cowboys in thirty to twenty over Philadelphia

and pick the click. How about Michael Gallup. He's been close two games in a row, potential deep touchdowns. We talked a lot about him already, but this is a young guy who's getting open to on the other side. This is amazing because he was my second pick to click. Ohael Gallup, All right, Mickey, you should go first. Bill. Yeah, you should have. Could have got what you wanted. I've

got twenty four twenty three Cowboys. I think this is the Eagles last stand and I think they're gonna be pretty tough to take out m HM and his hedging of loss here. And my pick to click is whoa? That was a wolf yell? I think Rick Flair, is there a razorback on the team? Say whoa? Whoa? Yeah? And I should have I should have trademarked LV because now everybody's using it. Is there something wrong with that? Yeah?

Because I said it first? Did you yes? Okay? Oh, so that was a wolf calls, a Chicago wolf call. Come on, work with me. I'm going thirty to sixteen, what boys. It'll open up a close game in the fourth quarter, much like they did last time where they came alive in the fourth quarter where they got to the couple of these guys off. You've got to be a sixteen sixteen game headed to the fourth and it's gonna be all Cowboys on the fourth and Jeff Heath will get a pick. There you go, and he's my

pick to click. All right, all right, that does it for talking Cowboys. We will talk at you. What now, what are you doing on Sunday, Brian, Sunday of today? You're going pregame at PREMI I don't know what time? What times of game three fifteen? Yeah, so let all right, Rob, you're gonna do anything. I'll be there on the sideline for you. Go hits, all right, two hits on the sideline,

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