Talkin' Cowboys: Extra Gears

It is a Talking Thursday here from the headquarters of the Dallas Cowboys. We're previewing the Dallas Cowboys in the Inna Annapolis Colts hit his Week thirteen of the NFL season alongside Patrick nose Walker Isaiah. Stand back. We've got Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's. Gentlemen, how are we doing? Fantastic? I am. It's a little fridgid out there, Kyle. A little bit of fridgid just for now. It's okay, maybe frantic in here a little bit, okay,

just from the playing the indoor. It'll bounce back tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow is supposed to be back in the seventies, is it really it is supposed to be. What's the weather for this weekend? Um, it's supposed to rain on Sunday. Stop freaking grand there, Yeah, stop it. We'll be back to Oh I don't see any chance of rain on Sunday right now, we'll be back to spring. And I saw that yes day on my phone. Oh it changed up tomorrow. I mean, look at it right now. It

isn't yo, yeah, buddy, So don't trust it. Pregame Yeah, on our parade, you trust te pregame live. If it's going to rain, will be inside the stadium either way. But if it's say, if it's going to rain, we're gonna be out, or if it's not gonna rain, we're gonna be outside the stadium. So of course, pray for no rain on Sunday. It's not gonna rain. It ain't raining. It's not happening. We're not working. We need y'all there. There you go, We need y'all there with the signs

and everything. We're turning up. Each talking Cowboys sign that you see will be one of two things. It would be one a picture with Isaiah and myself. We will definitely take a picture of Patrick makes an appearance out there. He'll take a photo as well. Right, right, I'll double down. What about we give a shout out of the person's name. Deal here, deal, So there's the second thing. The third thing I was gonna say, Isaiah would even sign your poster.

He'll sign the post, right, how about that? Right? Sharpe a little bit. You don't want our autographs. But Isaiah's actually saying something. So he's a somebody now. But uh yeah, we're looking forward to seeing you out at and T Stadium. Pregame live two pm Central time. But get there early, get in the plaza early. Security. Yeah, you can get your own security out there, thank goodness. Probably needs some security detail. I'm gonna sit. That's that's that's one way

to spend security details. That's what it is. They want to protect you. They're a high valued asset. Right, Um, I could joke there, but I didn't do it. All Right, let's do some news and notes because we've got a preview the Colts defense against the Cowboys offense. Dak Prescott and company looking to try and continue some of the success that they've had each of the last two days, and they'll try and do so after we saw the

first injury report of the weekend yesterday. So the Cowboys um coming off with their many by much much needed many buy so they could get risked in recovery from that illness the virus that have made its rounds here recently in the building, so their injury list is greatly reduced over it was a couple of weeks ago, but the illness book has sank its teeth into Trevon Diggs and Michael Gallup both were DNP which did not participate

on Wednesday. Both are expected to play. However, there's obviously plenty of time between yesterday and Sunday's game, so that's that's the silver lining is that they both had plenty of time to rest and recover. But prepare for the possibility that one or both of them continue to be DNP this week as the Cowboys give them time to do just that. Anthony Barr, with his reaggravated hamstring, made some progress. He was back at practice in a limited capacity.

Jay Ron Curse and de Marcus Lawrence both joined him limited as well. Jay Ron Curse obviously dealing with the shoulder injury, but he battled through that very same shoulder injury to a mass nearly sixty snaps, sixty very effective and productive snaps against the New York Giants, and then of course many body comes after that. He should be a little bit better. Spoke with iron On yesterday, asked him, hey, you know, flat out, how are you feeling. Are you

looking like you're a goal for Sunday? And he said, I'm as good as I'm going to be in December. And he said, I'm going to do everything I can to fight through it. So but it's to your point yesterday, as there in December, who is healthy? Nobody? All right? So j Ron Curse sounds like he's going to be a goal as long as there is no there are no setbacks. And to Marcus Lawrence, same foot issue that he's been dealing with along with the other bad foot and the bad left knee and the bad right knee.

And you know, I think d law is gonna go though, guys, Oh yeah, he's gonna go. I think he's gonna play. He's gonna go. He's been going at this point. Flipping to the Indianapolis Coats, most notable would be obviously nickelback Kenny Moore, the second who did not practice an ankle injury suffered on Monday night football against the Steelers. It does not look like more it's going to be able to go, especially on a short week, and that would be a massive loss, huge loss of the coach secondaries.

He did not look good in that game either. When he hobbled off the field, it was not It wasn't good. If I'm not mistaken, did not they cart him back? He hobbled off the field, but I think he wrote the cart back to the l might be right. I'm pretty sure he wrote the cart back to the locker room. Not off of the field, but back to locker room. Yeah. So if in fact he can't go, which is what it looks like, then a huge hole in the secondary

of the Coats defense. But that's going to be news and notes for the day keeping Alan, Michael Gallup and Trevon Diggs. As it stands, everybody on the Cowboys injury report is expected to play. I want to say, with the exception of Anthony, barring the exception being he did reaggravate it recently, let's just let his play out and see when he actually gets back on the field. Because he reaggravated it on that Saturday prior to the what

was that Viking the Vikings game? Ye, yeah, because he was going to go into his home or his former team. So I mean, even with the mini buy, that's less than two weeks since he's aggravated that. So that doesn't surprise me that they want to take that slow correct. Is there a chance that he even pops up on the IR list or is it a little too late

for that by this point? I don't think they put him on IR not not going into the month of December, because that would guarantee he's out for four weeks, and you at that point you wouldn't get him back into the end of December and then have to kind of it wouldn't be a complete ramp up process for the playoffs because he's played this season for the Cowboys, but he wouldn't be in top form by then, and they don't need the roster spot, particularly with the release of

Terrell Basham a couple of days ago. James Washington's twenty one day window got activated yesterday, So if they make that move on Washington, you gotta see how Tyron Smith plays out effective next week. Bottom line is Cowboys don't need the spot, so there's no pressure to move Anthony bar to IR and they're just gonna let it play out at this point. So a couple of roster moves

that will happen soon. I mean, you'll pull up some guys from the practice squad, but you don't anticipate anything happening this week with Washington being completely or he's already been pulled up, all right, ninety nine point nine nine nine percent unlikelihood that Washington is going to be moved to the active roster, Like, that's just I don't see how that's fathomable. I said it yesterday, and my eyes would be on to Carson mcn is on Tech because

they called him. They elevated him from the practice squad on last with a Saturday preceding Thanks Oh yeah, Thanksgiving, but they register him inactive. That still counts as a call up. So I think that instead of playing that game, they're just going to go right, this is going to go ahead and activate Tach McKinley. Now we'll see if that happens this week. But that's that's what my gut tells me. I like it. I like it a lot.

Get him back into the fold if with us. I mean, we're going to preview the Cowboys offense here, but I do want to talk a little James Washington. Can he add something to this offense? What does he add if he is available and he is healthy. I think he's a possession guy. He's a physical, physical receiver. If he's healthy. How is that different from what you have already? I think he is a more experienced Nora Brown. Okay, I probably put it like that just in terms of games.

I know they're probably the same age, same age has been in terms of raps in actual on field in game receiver reps, catches all that jazz. I think James Washington probably has the edge on that one. And so we've seen Noah Brown be effective. We know what he brings to the table when called upon. They haven't called upon him as of late, since really since Dad came up, they haven't called on him much. But I think that

James Washington ads that element to it. I don't expect him coming back to be the same explosive guy that he once was. He was never utilized as that in Pittsburgh because there's so many guys that were around him. But he possesses those capabilities here. I foresee him being an inside guy that is a possession receiver that gives

you just another option. And you know what I loved, absolutely loved about James Washington coming out of Okay State was his ability to go up and attack the ball in his time at Okay State and even those in the athletic department, the fans that at that point there was a lot of dis to be seen in his game at that point, the way he played, he attacked the ball violently, which kind of shades of Michael Gallop in that aspect. I think it would be interesting, and

I agree with Isaiah, I don't. I don't foresee a situation where whenever Washington gets on the field for the Cowboys that he's instantly going to hit the ground running. I mean, this is a guy who needed some added time, added weeks to get over to get past the mental part of it. And when he gets back at game, in the game and that game speed, you're gonna need

more time to get back over that mental hurdle. But when and if he does get back to you know, prime James Washington for him, which is not what we saw in Pittsburgh. But I'm talking about what we saw at Oklahoma State. Then it gives you a possession receiver who can also stretch the field. Yes, and that's going to make it a lot easier for Michael Gallop to then stretch the field, because that's one part of Michael Gallup's game that we haven't seen reappear just yet in

his return in twenty twenty two. And I think it's because the Cowboys are great evidence on things given they're using Michael Gallop as the possession receiver, right, so if James Washington come in and help in that capacity, it's going to free up Michael Gallop to kind of get down the field more. And then you can mix a match and say, okay, we'll Gallop this is your goal route. But then next time you can say, okay, Gallup, this is your possession route. And you know, James, this is

your goal route. And all the whole while you got CD doing CD things, so you know, and of course, pink elephant in the room, Odell Beckham Junior will see if the Cowboys can't get him. But and to that point, before I toss it back to you, for those that are wondering the activation of James Washington's twenty one day practice window has zero, zero, zero bearing on the Cowboys pursuit of Odell Beckham Junior. That is still very much a thing. If anything, Odell Beckham Junior's signing would affect

James Washington more than anything that is correct. It would affect, Yeah, it would affect his role and how much he's utilized. Didn't where he would go if the Cowboys elected to go and sign Odell Beckham Junior, and vice versus Odell Beckham Junior elects to sign with the Cowboys, because he does have other suitors. The Giants, the Bills, the Chiefs all in that conversation, and of course the Cowboys have

been the most talked about one of them. But you also brought up Michael Gallup, and I liked what I saw about from Michael Gallup on Thursday. We're talking about using him as a possession receiver. He showed that again he's got those clamps, he's got those hands, I mean, and he gave them to you on Thursday. He caught those hands right. Yeah. Eight targets, five receptions, sixty three yards, which is a season high in all three of those

categories for Michael Gallup. When you watched the film, Isaiah and you went back and kind of looked at it, his yards per target was hefty down. I mean it was heftily down. However, is that the new role that Michael Gallup could find in this offense to allow him to be utilized more. I think it's how they're utilizing him. I don't think that that Michael Gallup lacks any area of his game to be effective in any role that they put in it that you to choose to utilize

them in, even after the injury. Even after the injury, I think he still has ability to get down the field. I don't think that he has one hundred percent confidence yet in that, but I think that he still possesses that ability. So we as you were talking about James Washington and him trying to come back, you know, I was in that same position coming off a foot injury. Like it takes a minute like you in practice and in training like these are all calculated steps. Everything that

I'm doing is calculated. I might be doing it quote unquote full speed, but I'm calculating how I'm gonna put my foot down, how hard I'm going to press in the game is instinctive. It's instinctive, and there's gonna be something that you do in the game that's instinctive that you're like, oh crap, and you do it. You're like, it didn't hurt, right in a hurt. You're good, you know,

and you're like, okay, here we go. Let's like a quarterback take it that first hip running back, taking that first time, you prove something to yourself and because you're not calculating anymore, now you're back to you know, you're back to reacting, you're back to playing the game. So much like that, I think there's gonna be something like that for Gallup where he just goes out of he gasses on somebody. He's like, oh crap, you think that's already happened. I don't think he's see that. I don't

hit that six gear yet. Okay, I don't think he's hit his six gear yet. I think he uses his five. His five is fashioned and most of his most six. So I think that once he's gonna hit there's gonna be something that happens where he hits that six gear and everybody's like, oh crap. There goes the version of Gallup we're seeing is that possession guy with the big freaking lego hands and in the ballerina toes so he

did in Los Angeles against the Rams. He's showing every aspect of his game that people had questions about, because coming into twenty twenty two, the big thing was, oh, well he's just a go guy, right, Okay, Well, now you're seeing he can do everything, which I think sets the stage for him. His hands, what you were talking about called his the hands that he displayed. These were

not chess catches. He's wearing body cradles, these dudes. These were contested catches with a dog on, you know, just I don't even know these dog on, a little spider monkeys sitting on his back, and he was snagging the ball, reaching away from his body, using his hands, being strong at the point of contact, being strong at the catch, and then reeling that thing in, shedding guys off them, running through guys. I mean, this dude was playing physical big ball. So to your to you guys point, that's

what he showed. And what I'm saying is he's never lacked that. They've just never called him to show that, right, They've never utilized him in that regard, So now they are They're like, Okay, you're our possession guy right now, Okay, this is where Dad's going with the ball in these situations. Oh, by the way, you can't get down the field too. Let everybody forget about that. And there's gonna be a time that we're gonna see before the end of the season where he takes off on a goal route and

everybody's like, god, dog, I forgot goes. And that was because last season the possession the role of possession receiver was split more so between the Mark Cooper and Ceedee Lamb. On any given any given the rep, it was either Mark Cooper stealing somebody's ankles on a route and there you go, you know, third down conversion, or it was Cooper on a goal route on that particular rep. And now CD it was the quick slant, the inside the

possession guy. Well, now without a Mark Cooper, CD has had to become more of that outside guy and more of that get down the field guy, and that leaves Gallop to step up. Now, before Galloper turned it was Noah Brown, but now with Gallip back, it kind of moved to him. But you had another receiver being James Washington once he gets back to form, and or Odell Beckham Junior once he gets back to form, and that just it frees up Michael Gallup to get back on

those goal routes. But what should really terrify opposing secondaries when it comes to you know, not just the Cowboys or our receiver group as a whole, but when it comes to Michael Gallup is you've now seen that he can do it all. Therefore you can't just simply defend him as a nine route runner like you have to defend him on the whole tree. Yeah, he's got it all. Yeah, you got to defend him on the whole tree. It's

good at it all too. That's one of the things about Michael Gallup cook coming out of Colorado's state, he always had a diverse route tree. He had that initially. The burst is something that he kind of continued to grow into and to kind of learn some of the route running ability that we saw from Amari Cooper during his time here too. That certainly helped along the way as well. I'm excited to see Gallup hit that next

gear because I think he has it. I really, Michael or in conversations that you and I have had with Mike McCarthy. He thinks he has it too. It's coming. Mike McCarthy knows that there's something else down the line, something else down the line with Michael Gallup. That extra gear is going to be there now. With that extra gear from Michael Gallup, who else could step up on that Cowboys offense and haven't asked extra gear of their own.

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on Sunday, can't wait. Say hi to us. If you're a Cowboys fan, if you're a fan of Talking Cowboys, if you follow us on Twitter, doesn't matter, say hi, come stop by, say hi. We would love to interact with you and love to have some fun with the fans out there because Isaiah and I don't get let out there often. Yeah, it's like training camp and a couple times during the preseason, they don't let us out of the house. No, it doesn't happen round So Kyle

Haileys freaking Mary is going down. That's going down. But not only is that happening on Sunday, but tomorrow we've got a big day because we're deciding the name of this Dallas d set right, We're coming together. We're gonna unite as a talking cowboys nation, Yes, and decide collectively, Yes, what's gonna be the nickname? Yes? So a lot of names go through, a ton of names to go through you and I. We all have homework. Did you do? I want you each here's what here's what we're gonna do.

I want you to bring thirty names. I want you to narrow it down thirty narrow it down the thirty names, and then we're gonna collectively tomorrow we're gonna find a top three from each of us. I want you to come in with the top three in mind, top three, and then we're gonna debate out of those. But I want to read all the names. I'm gonna read a bunch of them. You know what I'm gonna do. What I'm going to see you guys Google Google Drive document. I want you guys just throw them all on there.

That way we can all see them. I'll have them printed out for us. How about that, We'll have an Isaiah segment, a Patrick segment, or not segment of the show. We just throw them all on there. We just throw them all on there, the whole list of everything that we received from the fans. Okay, okay, and then we'll have our own little from from from us, like the three of us. That way we can all we can just look at see what everybody submitted, and we can kind of put the user names on there too, so

we can say their names there. You absolutely make sure whenever we put the names on there, if you have a nickname and you haven't submitted it yet, get it in there. You have an opportunity. We're gonna pick a bunch of them. We're talking about it tomorrow on say it with your chest Friday nine, if you want to watch your live all right, I just asked the question going into the break, Michael Gallup, you expect an extra

gear out of Michael Gallup? Who on the offensive side, Isaiah outside of MG has that extra gear that eg little extra gear action putting that nos that night shot. Yeah that we haven't serious payton hindershot. Why is that ponin? I like it? Very talented, very explosive. Haven't seen it, haven't seen it. We've seen it. Take the top off the oh, the middle Nasty tours. Oh, he walks around like that. He has that dog in him. Yeah, I see you with odbum. Give him the rock, give him

the rock. He's a guy that give him to Give him the ball in his hand and watch what he does with it. And I think that he's gonna be I think he's gonna play integral, roll down the road, down the road when when, hopefully when playoffs present themselves, or hopefully, if we keep continue taking care of business, playoffs present themselves. I think he's the guy that everybody's like, crap, Shoot, we worried about these other cats, and here it goes

this dude. Right, he's just that dangerous of a guy. And they're just keeping him quiet. They just keeping him quiet, and I'm not keeping him quiet. But what is that? Well, that's the thing. Is that a good thing or a bad thing because as a rookie, don't you need those types of opportunities. And he's getting snaps. He had a two yard touch. There's four tight ends that are all

being utilized. Correct, this is not a typical team. You're using two guys right, and the other guys are doing a protection and you know on the wings like these. All four of these guys are being utilized throughout the whole game, special teams and offense. And I think that he's just kind of gotten caught into washing. I think Keller Moore, I would assume, and I hope that Kellen Moore has some things him and Linda Welles has some things in the bag for a hinder shot. They were

already showing it. Yeah, it's starting to leak out, you so what happened against the Giants with a two yard handoff for it's starting to leak out. And I love that you chose Peyton hinder shot, and I agree with that, but to not double down on it. Let's let's keep it in the tight end room. Though I still don't think we've seen and I agree wholeheartedly, but I still don't think we've even seen remotely what Jake Ferguson is capable. I think Ferguson, much like hinder Shot Um not only

can Ferguson stretch the field in space good luck. Right, you've already seen Ferguson still some ankles. You've seen him hurdle a fur great air Fergie. Right, he's hurdling guys. He's shaking guys. If you go back and look at what he did on the touchdown in Philadelphia, get the ball in his hands. He could do it in space. He can take it down the scene if you need.

But he's also a solid blocker as well. I think we're just seeing things get started with Ferguson, but also with Hindershot, and then you com bind those two together, my old min there have been some fun tight ends as a part of the Cowboys organization in recent memory. I think that eighty two guy was he was pretty dark good, right, I mean Jason Witton was fantastic. He's pretty good. But as a room do you remember having so much excitement around I mean, yeah, individually Jason Winton,

I mean gold Jacket went for a reason. But as a group have you ever been as excited about a tight end group? And that's this Cowboys organization. And I've beat the chair about it before. Linda Wells does not getting enough credit. He's a hell of a coach. He does not get enough credit. Facts facts, facts. Check the pregame every week, every week the Cowboy, Black Cowboy had crisp No And I listen, you can't say that there's there's a reason why I bring this up. There are

too many coaches in this league that get buried. There's too many coaches that you know, we talked about McCarthy, we talked about the defensive coordinator, we talked about Kelly Moore. But then you gotta start talking about these positional guys, right, you got to talk about the Skip pizza, the world that Joe Philbin's Yeah, Joe Philbins, Who's who's freaking used

puzzle pieces to put together? He knows everybody in this building, I mean head to tell Yeah, right, he's put these he's put this off the line together for a number of years. Right, And then you talk about what Joe Philbin, Yeah, including he knows everybody, yeah yeah, inside. But then he's talk about Skip Pete everywhere Skip Pete's gone. He's had at least a one two punch everywhere he's gone. He's

had on one two puss, the development of backs. Then you go, then you come here and you talk about Linda Wells. Name one team that has four tight ends that all contribute. Name there's not one, and to what two of these guys weren't even and if anything, it would be one of those teams that would say are offensive geniuses, their next level thinkers. It's like the Sean mcvay's or the Andy Reids of the world that are

just next level guys. They're not getting that type of credit because you're utilizing these guys in such a fun way. But it's also the not just the utilization, but the fact that you were developed enough talent and enough skills and contributing contributions from each guy on your depth chart. All four guys on your roster, at your position in your room are contributing in active every game and in

confident and you can utilize them in every situation. You have four tight informations where all these guys are on the field simultaneously. That is amazing in terms of the work that he's done to put these guys in position to be utilized. Because most other teams in this league have three guys active, Two guys participate in two and two tight end sets and the third guy is really on field goal block and they're still developing Seth Green in the practice squad for he was even down there.

You know why, because you have four guys that are produced it. It's unheard of. So I mean give him his freaking flowers and kudos to him for keeping these guys, forgetting these guys ready, because I don't think they were already at one point. No, no, right, So it's not just you just oh, we just had this much talent in the room. Now this is development you know, two rookies and McEwen was a developmental tight end an battled

injury mqwen did in twenty twenty one. So uh no, the answer is no. I mean you can go back as far as you want to go back, and the answer is no. I mean, you're at best. You'll find a dynamic duel at some point in the Cowboy's history when it comes to tight ends um, and you will, but more often than not, especially in recent history, it's been who can compliment Jason Witten? Right, So it wasn't. Martell has been an unfortunately uh, you know it wasn't

Facano unfortunately. Um but and then the Blake Jarwindolton showed this thing was supposed to be a thing, but then injury completely derailed potentially ended Jarwin's career. We'll see if he can never make it back in the league. So you come into you know, the offseason, and you're saying to yourself, well, you got Dalton shots on the franchise tag, that's a one year. Darwin is out of the situation.

What are you gonna do? Well, Will McClay is, Stephen Jones, They strap up and they say okay, Jake ferguson fourth rounder and then paid Hindershot, which could have been a draft pick. He had the draft pick talent, fell to the ranks of the undrafted. Cowboys get him and paid Hindershot. Told our beloved Hailey Sutton on yesterday that the Chiefs were in on him, trying to get him as an undrafted free agent. So the Cowboys stole him from the Chiefs. M okay. And now you're in a situation where you

went from having Kelsey much right exactly. You went from having a tighten room with a massive question mark to a tighten room that's one of the most lethal in the league. And we haven't even seen them scratch the surface of their potential yet. This tighten room might be the differentiating factor in one or more of these potential playoff games. No, you're great. That's a great point because

drafting Jake Ferguson, that was first seen Dallas. After they took their three picks in the first three rounds, you got a wide receiver, you got an add rusher, and of course you had the offensive tackle with Tyler Smith in the first round. After you got those three positions out of the way, the fourth round you could have put if you were a betting person, you could have put money. It was a tight end and heavy money. It was a tight end. It could have been anybody there.

It really could have been. So Jake Ferguson, that selection that was made was going to be anybody that's a tight end, and that was a high, high draft prospect. The steel of the off season is Peyton hender Shot and that's kind of what that goes back to your point of being the gear or having that extra gear. The fact that he's the Steel of the off season and he hasn't even put up stats yet shows just what he can do. I think people are forgetting that

Schultz and just just didn't coming here developed either. No, he didn't. No, it took some time, you know what I'm saying, sometimes and sometimes spend it Kittles tight End University. Yeah, I mean, but you know you so, I mean, you got the coaches that Purtic obviously had a huge part in that. You know, I got offseason things, all that,

All those things played a part in it. But you talk about somebody who wasn't even in a conversation of being one of the best in the leagues all of a sudden having a breakout years, all of a sudden being a franchise take. I mean, that's a there's development that happens there, you don't ye, not only here, not only position all right, responsibilities blocking, run, blocking, pass blocking, running routes, catching balls. They have more responsibility than everybody.

Think about the last time you had a rookie tight End take the world by storm really hasn't happened. Even some of the guys that are the top names, the Travis Kelsey's, the George Kittle's, the Dallas Goddards, zach Ertz, none of those guys were those guys as rookies. Look at some of the most recent guys, Kyle Pitts, Jollanni Woods, I mean Jillanni Woods. You're gonna see on Sunday. These guys have not been big time players as rookies, but

they still could be down. Was he still Pitts was the one exception, but even he wasn't living up to expectation either. So with that being said, Pitts has been the exception in that regard. However, he still hasn't even hit the ceiling that he's expected to hit in Atlantic until twenty three, Yeah, because he's out for the season. So tight end wise, this room is developing. There's talent there,

there are places to go. And it takes me. It takes me back to a conversation I had with Coach Wells and training camp, and I believe Isaiah, you were sitting at the table. He's talking about the confidence. He's talking about the mindset that you have to instill on young tight ends. You got to be the first one to lay a hit. You got to be that one that initiates the physicality. That doesn't mean get a flag

thrown on you. That doesn't mean do something stupid, but it means show that type of brit and set the tone early. And these guys have done that and they've opened up the passing game too. Before you take us a break, college, that what you're talking about, And I said at a gazillion times when dan Quinn your conversation came up, it's about culture. There's a culture for the Dallas Cowboys. Within that culture, right, that's the umbrella, the

Dallas Cowboys culture. Then you have the dan Quinn culture, keller More culture. Right, offense and defense two totally different cultures, okay, and then within that you have positional cultures. Right, So you have to create the culture for your room when you're when you're unit steps out there, they are now a representative of you and everything that you put into

them all in this entire time. So not only are they representing the star on their helmet, not only are they representing the unit as an offense, right, but they are representing their tight end groups. So when you see them do their celebrations, when you see them come out, and that is that is Linda Wales in that entire room, that is their vibe that they're putting out and anybody who wants to step foot in that room. Guess what

you have to get on board with. So much better bring that energy when you're dealing with the tight ends. Really at a fun conversation, and you had a little bit of time as a tight end as well, so you know the type of responsibilities. You know the responsibilities that are there. It's like, give me out of here, give me back to the quarterback, Rod, give me out of here. All right, when we come back, let's take

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next ring. By the way, yeah, it'll be a great touch, a big time throw. We've got Chris Beam in the back, Patrick nose Walker, Isaiah standback. Final segment talking Cowboys. I'm Kyle Yeoman's gentlemen, Let's take a look at the Colts defense, Isaiah. When you've been looking at the film from Indie, what do they bring to the table that Dallas might struggle against, might struggle against, well, most likely to struggle against. Let's say it that way. I would say this defensive line

is going to test the offensive line of Oars. Okay, from the standpoint of you see a lot of dan Quinn. It's so funny. It's so funny that I, you know, I've brought up the relationship between Gus Bradley and dan Quinn and how they you know they're from the same tree or dan Quinn's from history. Really, we didn't go back into history and you see a lot of it. You see a lot of these these things like, man,

how the heck is he getting these matchups? Well, freak, that's the same thing that we see with Dan Quinn. So is it? Maybe it's the other way around? How to Dan Queen getting these matchups? But you see how he's able to line up just Bradley, that is his defensive linement, to create these one on one matchups at the defensive end position so that he could take advantage of his big dogs out there. Because he has some guys.

He got some dude, he got some dudes. You know, I want to talk about that d line because I mentioned Yannick and Goquay. Yeah, they've also got Grover Stewart who's been playing really well in the interior this year. The Forest Buckner, former top ten pick. Absolute dude. Absolutely. I mean, he's the number eleven ranked defense of lineman according to Pro Football Focus. Don't always look at the grades,

but he has been playing well. And then Quitty Pay, who some of you might remember from the Draft Show a couple of years ago. He was a potential target. He was a guy Cowboys looked at pretty heavily, but as an edge Rusher out of Michigan. He went later in the first round, and you drafted this guy named Michael Parsons, so everything worked out for you. But those are the four guys up front and Gackway, Stewart, Buckner,

and Pay. Like you said, they've got some pieces and he's doing a good job of aligning them properly so that the interior three guys, the center and the guards get consumed, right because you have to respect Buckner, I mean you just you just have to otherwise he'll freaking tarn issue writing. Damn it, you boy. So he's doing a good job of making those three interior lineman squeeze and he is isolating the crap out of these tackles. So Tyler Smith, strap up, buddy, because the Gackway is

gonna be. Oh, he's gonna be over your head right um. And I think we're gonna be if we're going to be challenged in any regard, he's gonna be there because I think that they don't let's off Ton, but they add a lot of pressure and they do a good job of can restricting and condensing the pocket um offensively.

For the Dallas Cowboys, they're gonna really stress us in every but it's because they couldn't afford with the secondary they have and you know Stefan Gilmore notwithstanding and Kenny Moore notwithstanding, with the secondary they have, they couldn't afford to send an extra guy, and especially from the linebacker cord neither, because Shaquille Leonard is on IR and that is a massive hole in the middle of that Coats defense.

Shaquille Leonard is missed. If Shaquille Leonard is on the field against Philadelphia, that Red Sea doesn't part late in the fourth quarter, that allows Jalen Hurts that walk in touchdown. UM, So that's that's something to exploit. There is the center of that linebacker cord with Leonard gone for the season, potentially for the season, likely for the season. But for me, all eyes have to be on a guy like in gock Way. All eyes have to be on DeForrest Buckner.

Quitty pay might be slowed even if he does play. He was out on Monday night with an ankle injury and he was limited on yesterday's injury reports, so he's dealing with that ankle issue might not be one hundred percent, so a little bit of a weak link there but for the most part, that defense a front for the Coats that's going to be there. That's their cash cow, that's their money pot. They don't take the ball away

at a high rate. You know, they have one interception as the team high between three or four different guys, so they're not taking the ball away in the air, and then you lose, like I said, you lose Kenny Moore as your nickel corner. Massive lost there. So for me, if the Cowboys can win up front, the Cowboys offense wins this game fairly easily. No, I fairly completely agree in that regard. And you mentioned the middle of that

Colts defense. I really like what I've seen from e J. Speed and the film that I've watched a little bit. Not what he's not shack Let's not getting twisted, however, I mean, he's by the way, he's DFW product. You went to North Crowley High School, and then for all of you Tarleton Texans out there, you probably remember miss e J. Speed drafted in the fifth round, the guy who's kind of been under the radar for the Colts for a little bit, but now he's getting a chance

to kind of fill in and plug that gap. But it's because of the pressure upfront. It's because of that defensive line kind of clogging the way that he's been able to roam freely and play well. But I also want to talk about the secondary. He may be missing more. But they've got a guy on the other side named Stefan Gilmore. Notwithstanding, you gotta talk about him, and then also Rodney McLeod. He's a good safety, good player, Julian Blackman.

They've got some pieces there and they're confident with it. I mean, you think about the old Seattle, Okay, I know we talk about Dan Queen, we talk about the o Seattle. If you talk about the Seattle, you have to talk about Gus Bradley got to and what he wanted to do. What did he do? He had pressure up front, right, he played man coverage and that's what they do. That's what they do. That's exactly what they do.

So in terms of winning up front, like you mentioned to see, if you went up front, you have a chance. If you struggle upfront, these guys are gonna be in your hip pocket and everything's gonna be contesting its stend the coverage windows, be it Stefane Gilmore or whomever, and we'll I'll say Gilmore or not with that it because I've seen him be able to hang with the best.

But if you extend these coverage, these coverage windows against these cowboys receivers by way of dominating in the trenches against in god Kuoyan and these other guys you're going to you're asking a whole lot of that coach secondary to keep up with Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallop and hell even Noah Brown and these four tight ends that we're talking about four two, two and a half seconds,

three three and a half seconds. The coach secondary to me and looking at their film, they're only as successful as the shortage of time in coverage is. So the shorter of the time and coverage, the more dangerous they can be. As far as people user concerned. They still not showing me they can take the balls, so dependent on past correct but without that pass rush, those coverage windows start to expand and they can be exposed in

that capacity. So it circles right back to the initial point, which is what Isaiah saying, And I agree, you have to win the trenches. Tyler Smith, strap up, Connor McGovern, strap up, Tyler be at a strap up. Zach Martin, Hey, you know here, Zach, do what you do. Terren Steele continue to be that role, greater in the run defense and effective in the past. But here's the big thing, and we talked about it this week and we're gonna keep talking about it until further notice. Penalties, no pre

snap penalties. These guys are going to come after you and you just know it, and they're really good at rushing the pastor. But don't let that get you out of your self discipline when you're talking about young guys like Tyler Smith, Econor McGovern and hell even Terry Steele who's been fairly clean for most of the season, and the penalty front. But don't go getting into a false

start situation, don't get into holding situations. Play clean discipline football, hold your feet, hold your anchor, keep your hands where they need to be, and let Dak Prescott in this run game set you up for victory. Yeah, Mike McCarthy talked about that a little bit yesterday and he was asked about the penalties. How do you work on that

in the middle of a season. Really, it's disciplined, I mean, that's what it boils down to is getting the discipline there to make sure that you're in the right place at the right time, you know what's going on, and that way you were able to execute. It's been fun looking at this matchup, but I think tomorrow is going to be even better. How about that, guys, We've got

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