Talkin' Cowboys: Early Thoughts & Impressions

the next hour of your time. We appreciate you being with us, but we're gonna treat you to some schedule release news, first time that we've had a show since the schedule is hit the open market. We've also got rookie Mini Camp in the rear view mirror and we will take a look ahead to OTA's as well as always joined by Chris Beam in the studio. We've got Isaiah stand Back, We've got heck My Harrison, no Rob Phillips.

Today he's uh interviewing some big wig, some some quarterback who wears the number four and plays for some team. He's doing something along the way. But I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us. No Rob today, Unfortunately, Isaiah, you sat down, he said, I'm not Rob, but you've got his chair today. Our son, tan Rob, That's what I

am today, just a little bit. It's a little dark, little extra son, a little dark, a little vitamin vitamin D Rob over here, don't mind me just thinking if Rob woke up one day and he was you exactly a little Dickey song o, I woke up in Iaiah, Gosh, Rob, he would never give it back. Yeah, Rob p Island would will have spent way too much time on Rob p Island. Let's say that too. We go take the whole show off the rose with this guy. It's the

off season. There's nothing off the table when it comes out. Since heckma, how are you doing? I'm good man, I needed to back. I needed to Mario Brothers man, Mario Brothers coin. Chris is probably laughing too, probably call all out of his chair. Yeah man, I'm good. You know, pulling double duty obviously when the when the schedule release came out, I'm talking about you pulling double duty being excited about the schedule release. And I'm also calling softball. It. Yeah,

I know. You and I were on a softball call at for ESPN and the Conference USA Championships and we were just sitting there. We were both on our phones like looking at the looking at the schedule and what was it? What was going on? So it was double duty. Luckily no double duty today, we can give you the full rundown of the schedule. Let's start with the first five games because in those first five games games you face three teams that have been to the Super Bowl

in the last two years. Tampa Bay to Week one, open things out against the Buccaneers Sunday Night Football on NBC, followed by the Cincinnati Bengals Joe Burrow and company come to town. Jamar Chase versus Treyvon Digs. That will be fun. Of course, those two had their fair share of battles in college ball. Then you go on the road to face the Giants for Monday Night Football, back home against Washington,

and then back on the road against the Rams. Three home games in the first five but two of those three against Super Bowl teams from the last two years. You've got two the last two Super Bowl champions in town. Isaiah. When you first looked at the schedule and the start that the Cowboys are faced up against. What were your thoughts?

Somebody doesn't like the Cowboys. They're trying to get them yet even with this second easiest schedule, jogging about you know thirty first, I don't give a dog on about all that. Listen here, you got Tampa. I know we said first five games, but the first six games is really the threat. Okay, Okay, you got tam Bay Buccaneers,

we know what they are. Okay, you got dog On Bengals, who just went to the Super Bowl and by the way, they just got better this offseason substantially up upfront, okay where they were a week at Then obviously you got New York can Washington, Okay, cool, those are always going to be, you know, competitive games. But then you got LA and then you got a Philly that's revamped and

they're they're shooting their shot this year. So four of those six games I feel like are gonna be pretty dog on tough, pretty dog on tough two obvious for three of them, obviously because they've all been to the show here in the past few years. And then obviously you got Philly and we know that they've revamped, and that they're they're pretty much taking a shot directly at the Cowboys, trying to trying to get them where they're weak at in terms of loading up this offseason. So

four of those six are gonna be rough, man. I mean, obviously we have a long way to go. All that kind of jazz we got OTAs, we got, We've got many cams, we got regular camp, we got preseason, we got all that jazz. Okay, however, these there are there are three out of those six teams that are arguable. There's no question no matter what team you go against, all right, but what team you ask, you know that those guys can play ball. So Bucks, Bengals and Rams

absolutely off top off top. Yeah, and then the other three are divisional opponents too. It's always gonna be competitive. So one of the weird things that I do at the end of every season, because that's when they start releasing not the schedule, but the team's your opponents for the next season at home. In a way, I start, I go by, you know, least amount of wins all

the way down to the win. So you start with the Jacksonville's Detroit saying, go all the way down, and I started to see started to say, tell myself, all right, so I can see where you can say, well, this is an easy schedule, but obviously things change from year

to year. But once the schedule was released and the way that they kind of scrambled and put this together, I think your opportunities, like you just said, are in those first six games, three of them NFC East opponents as you just mentioned, but also teams that have been there. There's a large opportunity for this team with all the offseason talk, all the things that they've said about the team,

the players that you've needed to replace. That game versus Tampa could be the measuring stick for your season simply because in those first six games you have the Bucks and the Rams, and beating those two teams may set you up for NFC seating. So although the season hadn't started yet, and the way that we are starting to look at the season that playoffs, hey, it's not that

you can't do a one and done, right. You gotta go far in this league, and seating in the NFC is going to be important right there with those first six games. So I don't want to say must win already sitting there in Senagar in May. But that's as close to a must win as you possibly have. Yeah, at least early in the season, and with an opener like that. And you saw it last year, the way that they played against Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on the road, when they were raising a banner

that set the tone for the entire season. Then you rattled off sixth straight. I don't think. I don't know if you're gonna see that again this year. There's probably a good chance that that does not happen. However, there is a measure stick, and it's that first six games. I keep looking at and I was looking at first five. But you threw in Philadelphia on Sunday Night football there in October. That's certainly a big game as well. You could go through those six games and finish two and four.

Here's a good chance you go two and four, maybe even a three and three if you get lucky. If you end up going four and two, and you somehow work through that and you're above five hundred, you're feeling really good about the rest of your schedule. Yes, feel really good about not only in the division, but in the your seating for the NFC in your benchmark test that we've talked about all last year, we didn't pass a single benchmark along the way. You lost almost every

one of those games. If we want to maybe throw the Chargers early on, maybe, but I don't think that because they weren't a playoff team. That's the same thing for these games. Tampa Bay is a benchmark Cincinnati LA, and then you don't have another one until you go on the road in Green Bay a little bit later on in the season. So those first six games are crucial to set the tone. They're tough or not. I mean, she's aren't easy. I don't care what people say about

the easy versus a hard wreck. I don't give a dog on This is last year. That is last year. Teams have loaded up since last year. Teams have added players through the draft, Teams have added players through free agency. Teams are not what they were last year. Let's just go ahead and lay out on the table. Okay, so you can look at last year stats and all that jazz all you want to. Coordinators that moved around, head coaches have moved around, personnel has moved around. These are

totally different teams. So yes, there might be core members of teams that are still in place. However, there's new players there, Okay, so there's gonna be a different look. So Tampa is Tampa TV. Twelve's back. Sorry everybody. All right, we're gonna have a showdown again from last year. Boom, all right, hopefully it goes that goes our way. You know,

you got the dog on Bengals. Okay, these boys bought out last year somehow, some way, and their win percentage probably brings the win percentage down for the Cowboys a little bit because they were ten and seven as a division champion. They were the four seed in the NFC or excuse me, the AFC, and then they go on a run. That Bengals team is not a ten and seven ball club anymore. A team that's going to win twelve thirteen games and they're not going to give and

they're not gonna give up ten sacks a game. Now, you know, with what they did with their offensive line this past year, and we knew that was a major weakness for them last year. So they addressed the areas that they were weak at, and they were weak at major weaknesses, and they still found a way to make it to the dog our superball. Yeah, so there you go with that. Giants Okay, Washington, Okay, La. They just I don't know how they got through their salary cap bows,

but they did it. They bent the rules, yeah, exactly, and they loaded up even more. Yeah. The thing for me is looking is looking at the schedule and seeing where the boot Eagles following our schedule, because it's always about who we played before and who we play after, because that's such a big NFC East matchup for us. And you look at where they are, I mean, we play the Los Angeles Rams before we go before you know,

before Philadelphia. Yeah, and then you look later on the schedule and we have the Tennessee Titans after we play the Philadelphia I mean, and so those are the tough parts your schedule, and when when you when you talk about you know what's going to be interesting, Where the tough patches, where can you be in trouble? We just know that those rivalry games, no matter what, they're gonna be tough. They're gonna be tough opponents. We're at home,

then we're away. The travel is always the thing. As we've had Mike McCarthy mentioned being the Dallas Cowboys coach for his third season getting used to that in the amount of prime time games that we're gonna play, Buckle up and get ready because this is a schedule that is going to that's gonna have a lot of narratives. H and it's going to be very intriguing to see how this team competes talent wise with what we have

on the schedule. And when I look at this schedule in terms of these first six games, right, it's just specifically we were weak on the old line last year, I feel, right, and we've tried to address that, right and we still have some pieces that we're still question that, we're still question marks. We're still hopeful all that jazz. Look at the defensive lines of these first six teams. Yeah, Tampa Bay nasty, Cincinnati nasty. New York beefed it up. That made may not be there yet, but they beat

it up. Washington, Washington nasty, last nasty, Philadelphia super nasty. Yeah. Okay, So so no, I agree, we're gonna get tested quickly. Yeah, you're gonna figure out what your offense. You gonna figure out your old line quickly. So I know everybody's looking at the big picture, but in terms of how this team rolls. Defense is gonna do what they do, Okay, they dan Quinn's gonna do what he does. He has his personnel there. We're still gonna get places pieces we

gotta add in there. But those guys, for the most part, you know what you're gonna get. Okay, hopefully, hopefully you get those turnovers again, chances are you probably won't. But he's gonna get pressure and make it difficult for offenses. Offensively though, you have to find a way to move the ball on the ground, and it's gonna be very difficult to do so against dominicun Sue. All right, he's not there, Okay, Who's who Cincinnati got on the front line.

That's and so so I mean, you know what I mean, like, no, no, no, to your point, I think that's interesting about the defenses. And that's why I say the two people that were starting with the one person that the most pressure is out on. When I saw the schedule, as dad, yeah, I mean you talk about these or six games, this is this is it. I mean, this is and I'm saying Dak, but I'm also throwing in there and like you know, it's Dak's pitching and then there's everybody else

that's going down on that. It's one of those situations where offensively, if you don't start off hot, and it doesn't even matter about the excuses that you have for guys coming back from injury, nobody wants here. Nobody's gonna want to hear that. And that's why the biggest responsibility is on DAK. I know that Tampa, a lot of teams aren't what they used to be. I mean, you just try to mention someone from being from the Bengals defense, and I don't think anyone thought of them in the

in the breath of being a doomsday defense. But once you get down to the commanders and we know who the rams are those matchups, DAK should be DA should be looking at this like a these are opportunities for me and the other person I'm thinking about as dan Quinn. Dan Quinn is in his second season and although he has elevated the defense and we were looking at there's the Cowboys are seventh in points allowed. Then it is

the quintessential bend but don't break style of defense. But in his second season, I'm thinking that they are planning to play a whole nother style. You can't depend on being a defense is going to have the number one turnovers or interceptions in the league. That's gonna have to be another part of this. You saw last season where in the playoffs we could not stop the run. We're seeing all the interceptions from our cornerbacks, but also giving

up a ton of yardage. Those are the things, no matter what you do, no matter where you rank, those are the things that's gonna bring your defensive numbers down, because bring your production down. You can add the bazooka. You can ask Sam Williams, you can, you can have as many players as you like, but if you're giving up that kind of yard you're not going to be successful. And the offenses that you go up against early are gonna test you. You got to slow down the run

and you gotta run the ball. That's clear and simple. That's the easiest way to solve some of your problems is figure out a way to do both of those things. And to y'all's point of talking about just how these these front sevens at the first six games of the season are just next level five of them, five of the six are in the top ten or we're in the top ten last year and rushing yards allowed per game.

Half of the top ten in the NFL and rushing yards allowed per game are on your schedule in the first six weeks of the season, Tampa Bay, Cincinnati, La, Washington, Philly. You are going to have to run the ball in the first half of the season or you may end up two and four going into Detroit game in week

week seven. It really is. Let's talk about the next six games on the schedule as well, Detroit and Chicago, followed by the bye week, and then you take on the other NFC North opponents, Green Bay and Minnesota, both on the road, one in Lambeau of course, the other one back in Minnesota. How many years in a row are we going to play the Vikings on the road and we're gonna hear the skull chants in our sleep? New York? Is that Thursday, or excuse me, is the

Thanksgiving game? So we'll stop at the Thanksgiving game? Detroit, Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, New York a bye week sprinkled in between there. Heck, when when you looked at that side of the schedule, is that your rebound schedule where you you're still facing decent teams you're just not facing the upper echelon of the NFL like you do in the first six weeks. Yeah, and that's why I said, like the first six the hypotheticals there, two and four were

nightmare for me. If you can split that at least see three and three or flip it, you know, I'm really I just yeah, flipp it. That's that's being on the positive side. But I think this is this is the part in the middle of your season where you really can't make some ground. But don't be mistaken. I mean the Lions, their coach is going to have them primed and ready to go. We've seen teams go from being a basement level team to putting together two first

round draft picks. And then do you think the Lions or that, I don't think that. I'm just saying that's not underestimate on him and say that, oh, that's just automatic dub. I think the Bears are the same way the Packers. Obviously for Mike McCarthy. That's the game that I'm circling for Mike McCarthy because I know he wants to win that game, and I'm sure the team wants to win it for him. But I mean to show Green Bay up at a primetime Come on, Fox, that's

got to be moved, right. They gotta move that too. I don't know if they will. That's the game of the week. Yeah, I don't think they. I don't think Fox lets that one go. I think that's Kevin Burkhard and I guess who was he. That game was announced before the schedule was, so I'm assuming that's one of

the Fox is big, one of their premier Yeah. Good point. Well, anyway, then you got Minnesota on the Minnesota then Minnesota again, another team that I feel like we've we've done a really good job of taking care of over the years, and the Giants on Thanksgiving. This is strange to say that we're playing the Giants on things again, first time since nineteen ninety two, and not the Manders, not the Commanders, no man like every other year on Thanksgiving. What do

you think about this middle part of the schedule? When I look at it, I think all five of these games are winnable. I should be winnable. I like the middle part. I like obviously Detroit, regardless of what happens in that first six games. I think Detroit's obviously based upon what happened, what took place last year with the teams. Okay, you should be able to win the Troity, you should

be able to win Chicago. You get to buy a week at the best possible portion off their seasons, best you could ever hope for, a right smack dab in the middle of your season. So that's awesome. Uh, then you didn't you need that by a week because you're about to face green Bay in Minnesota, and green Bay is green Bay. A run is out there, all right, he's making all fifty a year. He's ready to ball out, okay, and they're getting him some help. So you always got

to be prepared for that. Obviously, we know how big of a game that is for McCarthy. But Minnesota is always dangerous to me. Minnesota is always dangerous to me. There's this Minnesota is never a team that I looked past him back. Oh yeah, go ahead, we should be straight. They're always with a new coach, even a new coach, because they're because they're key pieces. The key pieces are

still there, right. Their linebackers are still there, their d line is still there now okay, yeah, the quarterback is still there, right, Receivers still there. That's just I don't hear them in that way. We played them a couple of times so far. Dalvin Cook, I respect his speed and what he does, but I just think on the outside we covered them pretty well. I agree that we last year with the backup quarterback beat them. Agreed, Dallas has done a great job against them. But personally, I

just think that they have very good key players. Nah, yeah, key players. I liked their front seven. Always front seven is always a threat. The running game is always a threat. Right. They have three of the best receivers in the league. They those guys do a dog on a good job. That's a solid trio that they have over there. Um, so they're a threat in my eyes. And then you got the Giants, all right, and we'll get to the next one here aunt that, Yeah, we'll get We'll get

to it here in a second. I never played in the NFL. Shocker for those if you're listening, Um, how much does it play a factor in the travel schedule? Right there in the middle of the season, you're at home against Detroit, you're at home against Chicago. You have the bye week, so you don't travel for an entire month, But then you go straight into Green Bay, lambeau Field and a high vaulted matchup where your coach is making a return as after winning a Super Bowl there and YadA, YadA, YadA.

How much could laying off and at the trial novel and not being in a rhythm in terms of that chunk of time? Does that affect you at all? Or is that a non factor whatsoever? No, it's a non factor. I think Seattle has the worst right they got to travel miles, but far as Dallas. I mean, that's a great thing about being in Dallas. You're centrally located, so every you know, you're not fine, no more than three hours either direction. So I think that's that's perfectly fine.

They need to be worried about that dog on cold though, November thirteenth in Green Bay. Do you think it'll be that cold up there? Shoot you, it's not that bad. Chris is the one on the side. Seriously, it doesn't get really bad. I mean it's not that bad, Chris. That direction, I mean, like in the thirties is gonna be nice. You do realize that the NFC Championship game, it was like it affected it affected the Green Bay Packers. Yeah,

it justn't affect everybody. So yeah, I agree, and I think that's probably closer to at the third degrees, maybe forty. I don't think you could really start whining until you get into the twenties about weather. Oh I'm really in Chicago. Off the play you played at you dub I played, you played, Yeah, you played in New England and fourteen. Yeah, yeah, that's real. Okay, all right, let's look at the final third of the season. By the way, we used to

cut the schedule and the quarters. Now it might be in the thirds with that eighteen game. It's just easier to look at along the way. But if you go four and two in your first quarter, then you go four and one in the second quarter, you're feeling pretty good or a third, I should say. But now we look at this final game or a final six games. Indianapolis the first game after Thanksgiving, so you have a

long reach. Yeah, really good teams in the AFC, actually, with Indianapolis and Tennessee both of being in the mix. But it's Indianapolis, followed by Houston, then Jacksonville on the road, first time the Cowboys have played in Jacksonville in quite some time. Then you have Philadelphia and Christmas Eve at home, which will be interesting. That game could be flex to Christmas should things get down to the wire, and it always seems to get down to the wire with Philadelphia,

so maybe that will be played on Christmas. And then the final two weeks for the regular season, you are on the road Thursday night, short week again against Tennessee and then you're at Washington at FedEx Field to end out the season. When you look at this, heck the running game you've got. You've got a great test early in the season. But should he be healthy, then you've got Jonathan Taylor December fourth against the Indianapolis Colts. Is

that your second litmus test for the run defense. Yeah, I mean it starts we have a even when it starts with Mixing and Leonard Fronette, we start off pretty rough too. But you're right, this is the Jonathan Taylor matchup Henry and let's not forget Gibson. We don't think we give Gibson enough credit for the commanders up either he stays healthy for Yeah, I mean, this just a stretch that we're gonna get an opportunity as our defense to find out where we are in the running game.

I felt like many we were so herky jerky in the running game last season at those lights out performances versus the ones where we gave up more than and we were penalized more as well. I mean that was the other telltale sign for our defense. But you can't forget about Jonathan Taylor. I want to see how Indianapolis looks with Matt Ryan. What kind of what difference does Matt Ryan make in that offense versus Carson Wentz. And

I'm so happy that Carson Wentz is with the Commanders. Also, let me say that I know you love Carson Winn. That's my guy. You know, that is my duels let down, always always on time. But also the defense for Indianapolis man really a test for man Quitty pay DeForrest Buckner, Jannick and Doc Way, Darius Leonard. I mean, yes, yes, yeah, Who's who's our defense coordinator up there? Now give me a second. I'll let you know. I do not know Bradleys. Yeah,

Gus Bradley. That's right, exactly exactly. Chris apparently does not like that higher Unfortunately, good Indianapolis, in my eyes, is going to be one of the league's best teams. Okay, just I think think they take that jump. I think they take that jump. I think they weren't too far off last year. They just didn't. Obviously they got help from your boy Wins. They need a bus driver, and

they got one, you know who. They remind me a lot of Tampa Bay two years ago when they finally got a quarterback that could be exactly what they need. And I think Matt Ryan can be that in this system. I'm not saying Maddie Ice is the end all, the be all. He's not Tom Brady. I'm not saying that either, but I'm saying he won't. I could hear the comments. Yeah, it's okay. I'm just saying he won't. He won't mess it up. Yeah, And he has a good enough position

right now. He's in a good enough position with this team. He's on a way better team now than he was last year. And the defense, their defense is silly. Yeah, I don't disagree. And I think I think Tennessee might take a step back from their dominance. They're still gonna be great on the because they have Derrek Henry, but I don't know if they're necessarily going to be the same kind of top seed in the AFC that we saw a year ago. Indianapolis could certainly take that jump

and Houston Jacksonville, those are both winnable. You should win on the road against Washington, But that Christmas Eve game against Philadelphia and always comes back to the stupid boo Eagles. Yeah, there they are, but it always, it always just credited to ruin your Christmas. They're gonna ruin it. Do you think that you can look past Jacksonville like you did last year, like you would have last year had you played them, Well, you're in the NFL. You can't necessarily

look past anybody. I mean, you know, but no, they went and at a Christian Kirk. They added some talent on their defense. Trevor Lawrence now has somewhat of an offensive line. You just look past Detroit, Detroit. I'm not concerned about Detroit. Well, why are you concerned about Jacksonville there? Because Jacksonville's a quarterback, that's the weapons that they put around here, Doug Peterson's coach they're putting in place, and

the defense that they're starting to put together again. So I don't think you could go into that thinking it's a loss. Yeah, but you can't. Yeah, I know, you can coach a good coach technically, because if you was that game, then all of a sudden years feeling their coach knows what the heck she's doing. The troitch coach are trying to figure it out. Okay, well, two things about Two things about after the Giants game on Thanksgiving, whereas we would go back back to back Thursday night games,

we don't play a Thursday night game. We actually play the Texans on the eleventh, which is a ten day rest s band. And it's been a while since the Cowboys have had that. It's like a second by for these guys. I got really didn't they have it last year? What do you? Yeah, well they had they had back to back Thursdays and yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but they don't have back to back Thursday after the yeah after, because that's when they should arrest is Zeke,

but they didn't. Correct it was against the Saints. Yeah, it was just that's how I remember it. They did Kansas City and then they play the Raiders, Yes, yeah, Raiders Thanksgiving, and then it was the Saints after on Thursday, and then Tony Poller got hurt. Yeah, um, yeah, but that's the schedule up and down. Thumbs up, thumbs down, thumbs up. It's gonna be challenge, very challenging early. You're gonna find out what you need to know about this team in the first six games. I agreed, No, I

agree with what he says. I think that the team has the That's why I said dan Quinn and Dak are the two most important when I saw this schedule, because they both have an opportunity to make a statement, especially for Dak coming off of his second year removed from his injury. The quarterback matchups that he has here this whole you know, Aaron Rodgers and Cousins back to back. I can't wait for that comparison to so many people have been comparison comparing Dak and Cousins for it is silly. Uh.

You know, Chuck just tweeted about this. Is there really is a silly argument. But you go from you go from Joe Burrow, uh, Tom Brady. I mean just that's a matchup galore for Dak and I think Daniel Jones in Week three Yeah yeah, and Carson wentz right after that on h and by the way, preseason games just for everybody listening and keeping track. August thirteenth against Denver, that's an eight pm kick. August uh nineteen through the

or nose. The twentieth, it's that Saturday at LA going to Sofi Stadium against the Chargers, that's a nine pm kick. And then the twenty sixth against Seattle and taking on the Seahawks in the preseason. Isaiah perked up a little bit. For that one. You'll be in the color booth for that is at home. I don't know. It is a home game. That's the home game you're gonna have. You're Michael Irving for that one, buddy. That's true. All right. When we come back, we are done talking schedules. Time

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have three more guys to go. Taking a look at some of the guys that they actually have signed Tyler Smith, Sam Williams, Jalen Tolbert, Jake Ferguson, and then they have also signed all of their fourth round picks, Matt will let's go the Ron Bland, Daman Clark, and John Ridgeway have all been done. So or the guys that I read first are not signed yet. Williams, Tolbert, and Ferguson. Those are the only three that they have not signed out of their draft class. So most of those guys

good to go. But then we got a chance to see not only the draft class, but some of the undrafted free agents and some of the guys that are still classified as rookies that have been on the roster the last two years. Hack, when you made your chance, made your way out there on Saturday out in the heat, it was hot, it was steamy. But what did you get out of that practice? Anybody stand out? You know what? And I think me and you. I said, we're not gonna do what we did last year. Was that because

we completely jumped out of the cake? Did we jump up? No? Yes, you were a little bit, you know. You know we went out, Okay, we wouldn't look crazy. We were exciting, you know, we were really right somebody post COVID we were getting out. Who were you right on? Who tell me who you were right on? So we were right on a few. We were right on right on. Ifew were missing, a few were right. I don't think we missed. I think our excitement we went too high on our

excitement last year. Abilities we spoke on their abilities. Okay, okay, but we also doubled down and said when the paths come on, we got to see it. So no, but is he mcquambo see you about faced on mcquambo and didn't tell me you was going up? Came out? No, no, no, I said, after the first preseason game, I came out and told y'all that was that was gonna not gonna work. The physicality, physicality. I saw it when the first couple of times I said, no, this ain't this ain't gonna work.

But I will say this, you know, with the rookie camp. What I did see with some really good signs from guys. The wilesco is a huge person. I mean that's it. I mean it's a really really big guy. If he can move, if he can you know, good hand all of those things with it that you would need from your left tackle. If he can do any of those things man, that swing tackle position, I think they want him to take if he can take it. Uh Smith, I think he did. He did a good job. That

was Friday. You know, a lot of these guys were dealing with conditioning issues. And then you go back to last year when we were talking about the Buzuoka with Mica coming out here and he was he was winded. And think about Friday and Saturday, one of the hottest days in May in Texas, and they're in between those buildings and hot and they are driving it. So they pulled him back and you got an opportunity to see Friday.

I was there Friday on Saturday. But the other thing that I think Cowboy fans should feel good about is our wide receiver, you know, o Jail October I really was. I felt good about his ability. I felt I thought he's a lot bigger than six one, I mean, and Damon Clark from LSU that is a huge kid as well kid, he's a man and he carries himself like a man. But they have him listed at six two.

If he's six two on five nine, I know it because it's another big person that I think once you add him to the roster, he may be someone that can play. Because you we've been trying to still answer those questions about the linebacker room. But the other guy, the wide receiver from Indianapolis, from Indiana, sy Fry Fogel, Fry Fogel, I ain't messing this name up. He is

an undrafted free agent. And that's where I am looking at this roster and trying to say, like who's going to be the next Cedric Wilson, Who's going to be the next Turner Malik Turner. When are we going to have that replacement? Because that's you know, seven eight touchdowns that you don't have. That's about eight hundred yards that you have to replace that. I don't think you feel like you've replaced. And that's from your one, from your three and four or five receiver. Where do we get

that production? And that's where that's why I'm looking at this part of the roster and saying maybe we can get that from these guys. And since I was there with you on Saturday, I'll kind of book in this and then we'll get back to Friday. But I agree with you. I think the wide receiver room is where you're gonna see a lot of confidence early on from these guys that are ready to come in and make this step into the NFL because they have some speed

fry fogels. One of them, Jakari Robinson from Wake Forest is another one that both both of those guys in twenty twenty were top ten receivers in collegiate football, but they just had their drops in twenty twenty one. They have some question marks around them, and they came in and they performed well, especially five O gold Jalen Tilbert all of a sudden or not all of a sudden, but he was obviously the number one guy that was

in the room. My favorite part about going out there and seeing the battles was Tyler Smith at left tackle left guard. They kind of put them both spots. Played a little bit in the in the interior, but he was on the edge and he was going up against Sam Williams. Seeing Sam Williams get after it. Williams got him a couple of times. Williams definitely did that's but there were other times when Tyler Smith would wall up. And so seeing that competition early on between two of

those rookies was really fun. Of course, they're not going full blast yet, they're not getting training camp beat down. Just at this point. It's a lot of install a lot of classroom work, and in talking to Mike McCarthy, he has a lot of confidence in this class, said everybody showed up at seven twenty for a seven thirty meetings. He actually stopped him and he's like, I want you

guys to take a picture of this. So that way, when we're an Oxnard in a couple of months, the entire rookie class is ten minutes early to a meeting, I bet it's not going to be the same, so make sure and keep that going as well. So I like the classroom side of it. Apparently that's going really well, and that translated onto the field because comparatively, it looked like Saturday was a much cleaner practice than Friday was. Because there was some sloppy in this that you got

to watch. Yeah, there's some sloppy in thiss, but that was to be expected. Obviously, you guys are excited. There's jitters, there's first run. They're trying to impress there. It's a lot trying to get your feet underneath you and get adjusted to the speed. But you know, there was some definitely some pros. I was looking primarily obviously offensive line. I don't really look too hard at that, just because of the fact there's no pads, so old line D line.

I don't put too much judgment on that until the boys meet them pads on that's what really matters. But at the wide receiver position, I had had my eyes peeled over there at Jayalen tolbrid and I like him. I like him, I like his work ethic, I like his demeanor, his willingness to be on special teams. That was something that we mentioned that wasn't necessarily present with the draft pick from last year. He was willing that.

You could tell he was willing to go out there and give his one hundred percent and special teams, regardless if he was feeling punts and regardless if he was covering kicks. It didn't matter. Like he was out there and he was given one hundred percent. I like that his ability to run routes he's precisely is seemingly he seems bigger than what he's listed at for sure, so maybe put some weight on. But you know, I like him. I like I think he's gonna be a great addition

to the receiver room along with James Washington. I know we keep kind of canceling him out, but I'm not canceling him out. I think he's gonna be a very integral part. I think he's gonna be this slot for the Dallas Cowboys. He's gonna be that possession guy, and tolbrid is a bigger guy that they're trying to make a possession guy as well, because they want him to be in that trifecta with CD and Gallant when he gets back on the field. But he knows that he has some work to do. I was reading up with

some of the things that he mentioned falling practice. I believe on Saturday that he knows that he has some work to do internally in terms of being an inside receiver guy. Um the Jake Ferguson played a lot of attenion on watching him. I know I spoke with Linda Wills, and he's he's very excited about his tight end room. He's very excited about his tight en room. He looks

he looks more than willing to block. He looks like he's like he's one of those kind of you know, just you know, drive you off the ball type of guys. My only concern is his weight. Yeah, he's a little little light, little lightened. But that's my only guess, My only concerned if you're drafting and I don't. I mean, I believe, I trust those scouts, I trust the Wills, I trust all those guys obviously that are responsible for this.

I would like to see him personally come in about fifteen pounds heavier to camp because I think right now they had him listened about two forty five, and he looks like he's about two forty five. He's a little smaller than that. Yeah, he has a frame that can add it. Okay, that's one thing I can't mention. He has a frame that can put on some weight. And obviously the strength coach uh is you know, Harold Nash. He's awesome. He knows what the heck he's doing over there.

So they have dieticians, all that jazz. They can get him right for before camping, he's gonna need to probably come in twenty pounds heavier than what he is right now, because you're gonna lose bas to the camp. Okay, So my only concern is that if you're being drafted as a blocking tight end, two hundred and forty five pounds

in this league is not a blocking tight end. Regardless of your willingness, regardless of your tenacity, two hundred forty five pounds is not moving two hundred and eighty five, two hundred ninety five pounds off the ball. It's just not. It's just as much as the Cowboys need a blocking tight end because Dalton Schultz isn't that, and Blake Jarwin without him being in the fold, and even Blake Jarwin wasn't necessarily a purely blocking tight end. I don't know

if Ferguson fits that role. I think he's more of an all around guy. He can block, he's willing to block, yes, but that wasn't his emo coming out of Wisconsin. His EMO was as a receiver. But hey, he's willing to block, and he played in a system where they used him to block every once in a while, but they need him to be a blocking tight that's the case, then yeah, you bulk him up right now. He doesn't fit into that mold and that's probably why you're looking at him

and you're saying he's lighting the button. And that's what has got to make you nervous, Kyle, especially when you looked at the front of that that schedule and said you're gonna have to be able to run the ball and if you don't have a tight end that can help you capture those edges, then what the hell are you gonna do? Are you expecting for shots to be that much better? Uh? This year at blocking I don't know. You know, London Wales have to be around the clock

on the teaching of that. But I want to go back to something that you said about this guy's demeanor, um um the wide receiver tober Yes, Jayleen Tilburt, his demeanor and his just that's one of the things that I talked to my son about this man. You know, keep your head up, stay, keep positive body language, and that's what Jayalen Tilbert has that that his willingness and also excitement is to fit in that role because we need glue guys. And that's what these guys that we

lost were. They were those glue guys that they were all special teams guys. But then at the at the end of the day, if you need them to moonlight, they produced and they did great things. And that's where I believe that Tolbert is going to be watched for him in camp when he starts getting those extra reps on specialty. Watch when they start moving guys like you know, like that around and he's getting those rests, because then that'll tell you how they feel about him once he

gets with everyone else. I mean, and and so that's going into camp. Those are the things that I'm looking at. But that's a great point that you made about his his demeanor. But there's another guy, John Ridgeway is going to be is going to be a fan favorite. I'm man, this guy he's huge, um but I mean, got an opportunity to just see him and watch him interview in the locker room, and he's a fun guy, very very personable, has a ton of character. I'm telling you, man, Cowboy Nation,

y'all gonna love this kid. I'm just just what he said, you know, Hey, do they make the team him and Bohanna. It's gonna be a battle going into camp between the big boys, don't I don't think it will be. And honestly, I'm going back on what I said last week because talking to McCarthy changed my mind in this regard when originally I thought it was going to be Ridgeway v. Brohannah. I think they like having both of those guys on that defensive line. You remember how we talked about that

last week, and I got really excited. And it's like both Hawk Miley's up front and you have the big beefy dudes in the middle. They like it. They like it. I liked it, and I also I liked this demon Clark. I know I talked a lot about Nakobe Dean last week, right, I know my disappointment, and they're not getting him disappointment. I was disappointed. I was you know, Hey, you know I stand behind Hey. I was standing two feet down behind anything that I say. I was disappointed and I'm

not gonna backpedal from that. However, this demon Clark Kat It's a big boy. He looked like somebody off a key and peel skit. I mean, he wasn't even playing he was standing on the standing there. But this dude got a frame on him. Now he got a frame, armer. I can't wait to see him fly around. Obviously he was he was on the sideline on Friday. But when I think when he gets a camp, I am excited to see what he could bring to this defense because

I have a vision. I have a vision of what could have been, and I want to see if it still can be right. He didn't even have a frame. He's five. I don't care. He was a lightning. He's a freaking lightning. Bomb him. Do that. Don getting off? I was getting off and him. I was off of him. But Damaron Clark, he has the frame of a mic. Yeah, that's why they drafted him. Okay, However, there's still a dude by the name of vander Esh that they still have on his roster that they planned on playing a lot,

I assume. So I'm out of necessity, not necessarily out of want. Well, they signed them, you know, ran it back. Yeah, I mean, but he's there, so I'm looking forward to seeing how he fits in or how dan Quinn's going to incorporate this linebacker rotation, because you want to think about it, Okay, we roll two linebackers, you bring down curse. Okay, cool. Now you're looking at Michael Parsons. Vander Esh's your quote unquote starters, and then you got a Daman Clark and

you have a Jabille Cox as your backup. I want to see if there's ever gonna be any three linebackers, ever gonna be four linebackers depending on the different sets. I'm interested to see how he contributes and what his style of players in this particular defense. Have you watched this film yet a little bit? He's go die a little bit round. He's he's fun to watch on film, and he when he is healthy, he's got He's more

than just inside linebacker. I mean he has range, he can cover u he does some really good things and he was still at five. His story about the Dallas Cowboys being the team that identified that his injury I thought was very important as yeah it's it's I mean, the kid has an amazing story, and a lot of these guys the way that they get into the NFL, if you just backtracking and listen to the stories, uh,

it's amazing. But he is one of those players that I'm I'm with you on that that's a you see him and there's something about the way that he carries himself as a person, and the tape goes with it as well. That tells you this kid's gonna be a pro. Nick Eatman I was talking to Nick about Clark before practice and he said, watch watch this kid. Watch the way that he's reacting taking mental rips the whole time through practice. And that's a big thing. I mean, coaches

that you talk about body demeanor. Here's a guy that's not going to be able to participate, but at the same time he's still taking those mental rips. That's a big thing. Then, in a few times that I've I've interacted with Clark because we interviewed him on the draft coverage when he came on the show, we heard his secret audio. We've interviewed him a couple times since he's been in the building. That dude is all about ball. That's that's what you got. He is a look bawler like,

that's that's what he wants to be. So yeah, I'm excited about him in the future. It's a bummer that we don't get to see him for the next six months and probably won't at any point this season, if if we're being really if we're being realistic about it. However, for the future, I think it's something that you could really look forward to him being a part of that defense. All right, let's take our second break. When we come back,

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I'll get on sponsorship for that somewhere. Kyle, he's got him packed in the bag. Hey guys, look look as he as he hands me a medium. He did that to me too. Arena got a nice new shirt, guys. Come on, dude, all right, let's take some calls from Talking Cowboys Nation. Uh eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. Give us a call. We've got another line open. But first it's been a little bit. We've got our our friend Nebbi back on the line. Nebbi,

good to hear from you again. What's your question for talking cowboys? Uh Uh? My question simply is this, am I am I crazy? Am I crazy? Am I crazy? For believing that Jalen huh Tolbert uh uh can replace Amari Cooper's uh uh uh uh production? Uh uh this upcoming season? Uh uh. Take care. Thanks for being patient with me and have a great week. And baby, thanks building.

Great question. And no, I don't think you're crazy by any means, but it would be tough, it really would and the reason why, and I'll let this kind of go to you guys. He's not the route runner Amari Cooper was. He's a separator, don't get me wrong, and he did so in college. But he's it's gonna be an adjustment process going from the Sun Belt to the NFL. I mean, it's you're playing and simple. He's a good receiver,

he will have his production. I think you could expect him to have a good impact role in this offense. But replacing the production of Amari Cooper would be pretty tough. Pretty tough. Ditto everything Everythina College has said. The reason it's simply being Amari Cooper is a dog. Amari Cooper is a respected receiver in his league that fears absolutely nobody. There's not a route that he can't run, There's not a defense that he hasn't seen, so he's more prepared

to handle this NFL. Obviously a weekend a week out. Tolbert may get there at some point in time in his career, but having that expectation of him to come into the league with that same production is a lot. It's putting a lot on top of him. But I do, like Holl said, I do believe that he will come in and contribute to this team and help him win the ball games. Yeah, it's all It's going to be a about opportunity for Tober if he's put in the

position to be a productive virt receiver. Everyone knows that the pressure right now is firmly placed on CD to take the place of a Mark Cooper's production. But if if Ceedee Lamb can exceed expectations, then that's going to open up the rest of the offense and that's where Jalen Tolbert is going to be able to have that those production numbers let's think about it. I mean last year it wasn't as though a Marik Cooper was one thousand yard receiver. So we have to come back to

you know, what are we replacing here? I know we're looking at his like this is fifteen hundred yards we were replacing. Ceede Lamb has an opportunity in front of him. I believe that Ceede Lamb can live up to the pressure that's being placed on him. Everybody else is really gonna have to finally going to have to define their roles in this offense, and Jalen Tolbord is going to be one of those guys. That's the biggest thing is it starts at the top. Everyone's defining their roles, even

to a certain extent. Michael Gallup's going to have a new role. Yeah he's been the number two here before, but he's gonna have to be a one, be not necessarily a number two. You don't want him to be completely lead drugged by Ceedee Lamb. You want that production to be there from Ceedee Lamb. He's the one that completely goes with the flow of being that top rid wide receiver. Michael Gallup needs to take a step too,

when he comes back and he's healthy. Because it starts at the top and it's a dominant effect all the way down. I completely agree. I believe that ced has to be your number one receiver. There's no one, there's no one be he is the number one guy. Michael Gallup has to be comfortable at being to be the number one all the way that is. That is the question and the answer can only be answered by Ceedee Lamb. And this season they've given him all of the runway

to be able to do that. You go, come off of his season last year eleven hundred yards, I believe receiving coming into this season, what would be the number that would put him in that group of the elite. If he gets fourteen hundred, fifteen hundred yards, he's going to have the opportunity to be that receiver for the Cowboys.

What would be mighty? What would come on by I'll ask you this question and kind of supplement that, but what would be your confidence level and a percentage one or zero to one hundred that he could do that fourteen hundred yards, Let's say fourteen hundred, because that would be an elite season if he's there fourteen hundred yards close to ten touchdowns. That's an elite season, something that am MARII Cooper never really did on a consistent basis.

Can what would your prediction or not prediction, but confidence level percentage wise be for CD Lamb that he didn't do that? Yeah, how can you give you force feed him? I mean you obviously can get most I'm not talking about force feeding. I'm talking about being the number one not force offensive smooth. I don't currently see it. So what's your percentage? Seventy? That's pretty high to talk in grad school. I don't know about that. Se sees fucking

grad school, right. So nine hundred thirty five is first season, eleven hundred last year making the next step. If we're just looking at the trajectory of his career, thirteen hundred should be that next level, especially when you have no one else that you would say you're competing with balls with. He doesn't have Amari Cooper there. All right, Nigel from Arizona is on the line. We're back to talking Cowboys Nation. Nigel, how's it going great? Guys? Thanks for taking night call.

Probably a little redundant question, but you guys brought it up and it kind of sparked a little something in my old man brain, and that's putting the big boys in the middle there and letting our guys on the end feast. We all know, I believe the first two games of the season is going to kind of dictate what offenses are going to do to us defensively, and

that's the run. You know, we all all of us know that's been an issue for the last I don't know, eight years, So I kind of you know when you were talking if Ridgeway, and I'm sure he's gonna make the team. Him and Bohanna and a couple of the other big guys just feasting in the two CENTI spots on defense and hopefully given our defensive ends a chance to feast as well. So thanks for taking that and I appreciate it. Thanks, Nigel, appreciate you, man, and I agree.

There's a chance you see both of those guys on the field at the same time. But the thought process is nose tackle three technique. You need both of those positions to step up. Yeah, you need them both to step up, but you also need them to just be productive. It's one thing to be big, it's another thing to be productive. And big. There's a lot of big guys in this league. They get moved off the ball. We had that a couple of years ago. Oh yeah, so

you can't. I mean, obviously, these guys have nice stature on him. We've seen what Big Bowl has done. We're still expecting more of him as he continues to develop. Now you bring Big Ridge in here, and he's gonna have to have a big impact as well. I think Urban came in prior to Urban getting hurt. He did an okay job, but he I don't think that he had the impact that we were hoping for it either. And he was a lot larger than this young gentleman.

So sizes one thing. Production is another. You're hoping that you get both. And we're not mentioning Neville Gallimore a whole lot in this equation at all. And that's a guy that also and also Carlos Watkins. You know, adding those big bodies is one thing, but we have Neville Gallimore who is a big dude that obviously, if he hadn't injured his elbow, the defense I think would have been on a different level as well. Right, and so him coming back and you saw immediately the defensive line improved.

He didn't get a lot of opportunity with Urban, but I think with the combination of all of those guys, the defensive line should be better. I just think that this year dan Quinn is going to have the opportunity to move pieces around. Now having that maybe done to Fowler works in that equation, but I think moving Micah round has got to be on the front of his mind.

Question for you, mail bag question, I guess who has a deeper bag this year with the personnelity that they have at their at their disposal, dan Quinn easy off, Tome over over Kellen Moore is what I'm assuming you were gonna ask. Yeah, dan Quinn by far got way more women. Yeah, Kellen still has sweapons, but he's limited to a certain extent. Dan Quinn's not limited. He's got guys. Uh real quick. Let's go to Brett in Austin our final call of the day. Brett, how's it going. You're

on Talking Cowboys? Hey, glad to be honest, appreciate it. I've been a listener for quite some time and been following the Cowboys since nineteen a couple of years. Um. There are two things that I really saw from this draft that really made a huge impression on me. The first four picks absolutely were steels. Sam Williams is going to be everything that we thought Gregory could have been but wasn't because of all the off field stuff. But he is so fast, so busy, and so big that

he's going to be great. And you've already talked about the wide receiver. And I really think that getting Smith in the first is what was tremendous because he is projected to be the left tackle of the future and moving him into guard is going to help him. And he's everything that Williams wasn't. Connor Williams was not never did live up to you know that that movement, and so I think that they really just especially on the

first four picks, you hit home runs. But throughout the draft, one thing that I kept hearing over and over again and Golf written about it is the temperament, the nastiness, yea, the absolute just sure ballers that we got. I think I gave it an a. I gave thanks for thanks for the call, Brad, and I completely agree with you to a certain extent because they filled their needs. They did, and I love your your your passion and I love your your high outlook on things. Your positivity is the

word I was looking for. I like his radio voice. He's got a great voice too, no doubt, And what do you guys think about what he said there? To cap things off? I think they they got guys that fit the characteristics of this team and of this organization, the direction that they're trying to go um offensively. They got a nasty all right. At the receiver position, they got somebody who's willing um they you know, at the

the linebacker in defensive and position, they got somebody. They got two people who are who are tenacious and fly around and are going to have an impact. So they got character guys that are you know, we're talking about their their demeanors, we're talking about how they're taking mental reps, we're talking about all the things that you're asking for of a rookie to come in and do. They're doing

those things. You're not having to train these guys to be better people, to be better students of the game. They already coming in with that mindset, and they come in with that mindset. They come in humble, they come in willing you can work with everything else you know, and I agree with everything you just said, and I think that you know, they Sam Williams and what he

said about Sam's I think Sam, that's accurate. The one thing that I always wonder with Sam would he would we have drafted him if we signed Randy, Especially with everything that we already have. People forget about Chauncey Golston, uh and guys like that that already have a year under their under their belt. I think it's gonna be Uh.

Sam's gonna have to battle on this onto this depth chart to get playing even as a second round draft pick um, you know, And I think that he is probably one of very few people out there in Cowboy Nation that really feels the way that he did about the guys that we got in the draft, because it's the great unknown, and it is not until we get these guys on the field that we even know how Smith is going to translate at the left guard position because he hasn't played since high school and so there's

a lot of question marks surrounding this draft class, and obviously we're going to get the answers here in the next couple of months. Completely agree the question marks around Tyler Smith at first, we thought it might have been a reach, but the more you heard about from the league, they got him at the right value. They got him at twenty four. That was exactly where they needed to get him because if not, he would not have lasted two picks after that, because the value was there for

Tyler Smith, great value with Sam Williams. I think he's got a chance to make the roster, make an impact early. He's got all the traits, you just gotta put them all together. Same thing with Jalen Tolbert, and I even liked the value on the back end. I'll skip over Jake Ferguson because I think that was pretty solid in the fourth but I would say the fifth round value that you got on Ridgeway and Clark, I think that's phenomenal. So I liked the draft class as a whole, I

really do. I don't know if I would give it an A, but a B is certainly fitting their overall and I think the Cowboys will when we put them on the put them on the field, we'll definitely see exactly what they what they have from their rookie class. Before we leave. By the way, Jack Crawford, former Dallas Cowboys announced his retirement. So congratulations Jack. Ten seasons in the NFL. Good Jack was from the UK, Yeah it was, yeah Jack, Yep, Jack is done with the good dude. Yeah,

one of one of Chris Beam's favorites. So that's gonna do it for us here on Talking Cowboys. We will see you again in a week for Chris Beam, Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman's We'll see you next time. I'm on Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.