Talkin' Cowboys: Draft Preview & Pet Cats

Garrison taking your phone calls. Well, you're gonna break it down and go step by step through. Brian brought us top one hundred. How How do you like the sound of that? Brian, Let's do whatever we have to do. I'm all for that. Y'all ready for the draft? Yah know? Brian is yeah? I'm Rob. You ready for the draft? I'm ready. I'm ready for Thursday, most likely Friday, ready for them to add players. Let's do it. Mickey, you're ready for the draft. I did? I shaved. I'm ready

to go. Oh you did. That's right. I didn't look at your face yet. Thanks? All right, you shaved? Off your playoff Beard, that's right, just as the Stars advanced to the next round of the playoffs before they won last all right, so there you go. That may be the reason they won by a whisker last night. All right. As we approached draft day, and okay, do you think the Cowboys can trade into the first round, Rob Phillips,

They could is if they trade something next year. They want to trade head because they can take your entire draft this year and they still can't get into the first round. You know, those pre draft press conferences are they are what they are. You don't learn much from it, but I you do get the sense they love those first round picks. And I mean Jerry was flat out honest saying it's no fun not having won. No offense to Amari Cooper, they love him, uh, but they value

those first rounders. Who would you like to trade the first round four? That's your question. You're not going for a position, You're going for a player you interested. Rickey Williams, Yeah, I think I think of And it kind of gets to what Gil Brandt was talking about, and Brian broad Us would probably echo those thoughts. Those those premier players probably go hold deep in that first round. They're off

first round grades. Yeah, but I mean the the and you probably twelve of those twenty four are real difference makers, you know. Yeah, I mean you could start, I mean to me, and it gets down to I think that it would stop with me right around probably eight team. There you go, it is where it would stop. There you go. Yeah, So if you go from nineteen to forty something fifty and there's not a huge difference. We

got to target a team in the back end. If we're gonna do this, you got to target a team with multiple picks, team that we're probably willing to move. Packers have multiple picks in the back of that round. The Raiders, of course have multiple picks. They've got twenty four, which is Chicago twenty seven, which is your own, you know.

But what it would given what it would cost, what we just talked about, would it be more likely for them to try to make a small jump on day two if there's a guy they don't want to let slip away. We can go from fifty eight to forty five if we want to give up that ninety. That's how we have to think about it right there, which is exactly what they did. In twenty fourteen, they just thirteen spots for d Law and gave up their third rounder that year in addition to their sulf Okay, so

that is a more realistic trade up. Okay, If I or first, can I get Quinnon and Williams? How many? How many future first rounder? Well you ask what all I want if I traded my first round pick. Let's say we want to get way up there and get somebody that's gonna walk in and start. Let's let's think about if you got to twenty four, where would you

at twenty four? Where would you you know, to get to twenty four, Probably you're probably looking at your one, two and your three one next year, two, this year, three, next year. You're talking like a Noah fan yeah or yeah, yeah, talking like a yeah if you, like I said, you're gonna have to You're not looking at a position. You're looking you're going for a play player. If you're trying

to get a player there, right. You know, if they had their pick at twenty seven, I think that that Williams, the kid from uh excuse me, Jeffrey Simmons from from Mississippi State, would be it would have been a heck of a pick right there, even though it's despite the injury. Yeah, well, yeah, that that right there, that's a pick that a general

manager that's not going anywhere. That's what pick a guy like that makes because that's a guy it's gonna get healthy and he's gonna be he Mickey mentioned Quinn and Williams. This guy's a tick below Quinnon Williams in my opinion when you talk about defensive tackles and how disruptive he can be and how many times have they done it? Really in the second round, Jalen Smith, Bruce Carter go down the list, and Shaun Lee Shaun Lee coming off a CL's at Penn State. Yeah, and it's paid off,

but not in the first not in the first. More they've been second round picks, if if if Okay, basically what you're looking at it twenty seven anyway is a second round grade, very similar to what you did with Travis Frederick picking him at thirty. They had a second round grade on Travis Frederick at the time. So that's you're looking at a second round player anyway. That's what this trap I mean. Do you talk to people around the league, they think this draft is really going to

be good between rounds three and five. So we got to think three and five. We got to think about if we want to if we really want to give up our if we want to give up ninety, that pick at ninety, we have to think about that. Well, if it's if it's strong between three and five, then I'm talking trade back from fifty eight then and pick up an extra. You gotta be three to five to figure out who were trading away from. Now that's the next trade, right, and you have somebody there? Do you

have somebody there that people are very interested in? Because you're not going to get somebody it's really easy to say trade back and then you don't get the value like they did in that Travis Travis Rider trade. They should have got a second round pick from forty nine ers, but but they had to take what they had to take because of trying to find, you know, to follow

that many spots. So you have to you have to think about where you have to have a player, and you have to have an idea of how far back you want to go on that player. So that's all the things that you mean. You know, it's real, it's difficult, it's it's more difficult to trade back than you think, because people since desperation, they sense they sense you panicking of not wanting to stand there and make a pick. Okay,

I saw something on my Twitter timeline yesterday. I have no idea if there's any validity to it at all that maybe Adam Schefter reported something about San Francisco entertaining trade offers for Solomon Thomas if they are able to get who they want at number two overall, which they are going to be able to get who they want A Boso or Quinnan Williams was right there, right, All right, Let's just say that is just for grants. Let's say that's true and they are taking offers for Solomon Thomas.

What would you be willing to give up to acquire Solomon Thomas from San Francisco. He's got three years of control left. We need to figure out where they had him in this stack when the year he came out and he was the third overall, was where he was drafted from San Francis. We need, of course, he's local from Coppel High School here in Dallas, right. We need to figure out if in fact that he was a top five player on this board, because then now you're

in the similar, similar type of a situation. I think what the Arizona is trying to do with Rosen, you know, you don't want to you don't want to lose, you don't want to just get totally embarrassed and say Okay, we'll give you ninety and it works. I think that they're going to sit there and hold you up for fifty eight or something like that. I don't think they get a first for Solomon Thomas, but I think that

they would. They would enter ten if you're saying, okay, we're willing to give you, you know, maybe fifty eight and maybe when you're compensed, that COMPENSI story four. So my question is would it be worth it to give up fifty eight for Solomon Thomas when you consider if

you're hadh graded high. I mean, let's say you had it as a top five guy coming out, and when you consider the fact that you do have three years of control left with him, and you also have a situation where you're hunting three techniques to exactly you know where this team is one year from now at defensive tackle, Yeah,

and it is defensive tackle. Rich In that fifty eight range, you're looking probably a guy you're probably gonna have to You're probably gonna have to take a guy early there that the Hill kid from Central Florida on my board more in that range of in the sixties. So what you're thinking about right there? Let me make sure I have that right. Yeah, Tristan Hill have a sixty seven. So yeah, that's about what nine spots early or nine spots you know later? Yeah, well where you have him ranked,

but where you need probably need to him. Yeah. You know if you told me Solomon Thomas, I could get him for fifty eight. I think I would entertain that if I would too. Now would San Francisco take that? I don't know. Yeah, but they're not going to get a one out of that, right I just told I just see, I'm not getting a one. They're trolling, trolling for what, Well, they're just throwing stuff out there. Why would San Francisco is or their reporters are well wait

here here I read this. Somebody reported that Pittsburgh is willing to do just about anything to back out. They didn't say they said they it would be it. They were willing to do anything. Okay, so that means any position any heard the same thing about Yeah, Kevin Colbert will usually stand in there and make picks. That's kind of his end, right, Pittsburgh's Pittsburgh. It's very not opposed

to anything that's good about that. Yeah, all right, when you look I think when you look at this draft or any draft, and when you look at needs on a team, you have to I think some people get caught up in what are the needs right now on this team? But I think you have to look ahead, what are the needs a year from now and two years from now on this team? And when you do that with this Cowboys roster the way it is in the Cowboys contracts, what are the biggest positions of need

a year from now, not now, but a year from now. Well, you're you're losing two corners, right, You're likely going to lose Byron Jones a contractually and Anthony Brown. And then the following year you lose two more corners with a Woozier and Lewis. And you've got three safeties on one year deals right now, Jeff Heath, Cavon Fraser, and George I. Loco you just signed. So that whole second just to have Woods better contract, Yeah, that whole secondary could look

vastly different a year from now. Now. Look at defensive tackle. Yeah, defensive tackle, You've got Daniel Ross on a one year deal. You've got Malik on a one year deal. Covington Hyder. Hyder's off one wood situation because he had some practice squad time. If he's in his fourth year in the league. But is he the human log is an exclusive rights he'll be restricted, right, So he don't think he's the only one. Yeah, yeah, I think he is the only one that you've got a year from now basically under

contract or defensive tackle. Look at wide receiver. We haven't thought about wide receiver that much. Well, you need to. Nope, Noah Brown, Alan Hearns. Noah Brown would have one year left on his deal. Randall Cobb's got a one year deal, Hearns. Hearns is in this last just as his last year.

Austin's in one year deal. Yep, right, Cobb. And then and then you just lost Cole Beasley and Terrence will and you gotta do something with Amari Cooper and so Cooper, we're gonna assume they're gonna sign Cooper and you'd have Gallop and then beyond that, you got Noah Brown would have one year left and Cedric Wilson would have two years left, and that's it. So that's a sneaky need

right there. Yes, you could even say you could even look at defensive end and say, you know, Robert Quinn is here and he's gonna help this team a lot, but it's a one year deal, and um, and who knows what Randy Gregory's future is, what his status is this year, and Taco might not play well either, Taco move on from that. Um, So, yeah, Bill, you're right, I mean gott to be his last year, right Taco? Yeah, Okay, if he doesn't, they could go any something. How about

how about offensive line? He's not gonna get the fifth year tender, if that's what you're asking. Yeah, yeah, but he's got one more year before that, right right, all right? How about his defensive line a year from now? Lyle Collins is on a one one year left, so you got an opening at right tackle that could be I'm fleming. Cam Fleming is on a two year deal. Now they got Cam Fleming. I think Cam Fleming, this is what

I think is gonna happen there at offensive line. I think if your Cam Fleming is gonna be your starter at right tackle, or they're gonna move Connor Williams back out like they did Lyle Collins. They're gonna let him

play guard, then move him mouth to tackle and then guard. Yeah, and then they'll find a guard and then and then let's let's hope and pray that everything goes well with Travis Frederick and he's back out on good the other day when I had his chances move on Saturday, as he said, you know, he doesn't know for sure until he gets into training camp. Yeah, exactly what he's got coming better though. Yeah, sure that's and yeah Ann Xavier Suaphilo,

Yeah there's another one. So, yeah, theyn't have enough picks. Another reason why literally make up the picks as you could get. They've got like thirty guys up at the end of next year. Now to your point, you gotta do something with amari Um Dak Prescott obviously, but yeah, I mean the meat of the bulk of your roster has got to be addressed a year from now. So if you think of it that way, getting rid of picks this year is not real smartype. Yep, that was

our mail. Bad question this morning. Actually would you would you stockpile? Yeah, And I'm of the what you were saying earlier kind of reminded me a little bit of two thousand and nine, where it's like, oh, yeah, let's trade back, let's add picks. Are you getting the quality as opposed to the quantity instead of just sitting there and picking good football players that might be able to compete to start for you, if not this year, the next year, got to sit there and just take every

pick they have. That that's when this team seems to do their best when they just sit there and pick players, trust the board, and go for it. That's you know, the moving up, the moving back and all that stuff that's great to it's great makes a great theater for the diet. But in actuality though, when they actually do their best when they sit there and just pick players. How many positions Zach Martin, Yeah right, yeah, how many positions?

Did we just mentioned that they would have a need even our next year corner, safety, defensive tackle, defensive end, wide receiver, offensive line, and you can throw tight end in there too, and you still don't have a backup running back. And we sit there and we're talking about all these you know what's going to happen next year with all these with all the movement and stuff like that, and guys potentially gone, They'll just do the same thing

they did again this year. They'll determine a bunch of one year contracts and and go. You know, they got they got. They got Cam Fleming back on a two year deal from on a you know, it was only on a one year deal that that. You know, we we we talk about all the I think you need to worry about the positions that they need to worry about the positions where they have potential loss of starters.

You know, I think you look at the cornerback spot, you look at they could potentially lose a guy with uh, you know, lose a starter with the Collins I believe, Yeah, Malie Collins is and live Collins a year from now too. Absolutely Crawford. I mean there's guys that they could probably move on from. But yeah, but I think you need

to focus more. They can as long as they have the core their roster signed that the Zekes that docks those kind of guys, then you could focus in on the camp Flemings of the world and guys like that to help you with the depth on those one year deals. For sure, they've also got two. If you look at their roster, I think Hellman counted it up. They have the ability after the draft to have add about thirteen,

you know, undrafted players. You know they've they've had a great history here of adding one or two guys that kind of makes a difference in that regard. So hopefully that will be another thing that Chris you know that Chris hall is, he continues to man and they continue to go off their board and get guys that they have draftable grades for That's where they're going to start

after that draft. So you know, once that picks over it in the seventh round, boom, there they go to work and hopefully they can grab some guys that can can help them this season. Historically, yeah, one or two guys every year makes the team. Danny McCrae one of them. Ye, Bury Church. You can go down the list, Tony Romo, Yeah, absolutely, all right. The top one hundred is posted on Dallas Cowboys dot com. It was posted yesterday. Did you how

much did you enjoy putting that together? It was difficult because I've never done I've usually done fifty. But the fact that they didn't have a first round pick required. Yeah. Yeah. What happens to you, though, is you get caught up on some guys that has very similar grades, you know, similar players that you know you get with those like the steal a Bill Parcel's line. Those wide receivers were stacked in there like club sandwiches. You know, it's one

of those things. So you're trying to separate those guys. You're trying to there was a lot of quality at running back, there was a lot of quality at tight end. So you find yourself trying to put these guys in the right spot. You know, Mickey was asking me about Drew Locke. I think, Mickey, I have him at sixty four on my board. Here is what I'm looking at. So you know, but I thought that, you know, when

you look at I thought Will Greer. It came down to, I think Will Greer and Locke are very similar type players for which look. I think Locke has a stronger arm. I think Will Greer is more accurate. So that's why I put them a little bit higher than where I had locked. So that's the problem you run into as you're trying to kind of figure out where a guy fits in the right spot on your board, but also though where they could potentially go, not so much for

the Dallas Cowboys, but for the league in general. So at quarterback, you've got Locke as your number five quarterback. You've got Murray at number eleven overall, Haskins Ohio State at number fourteen. You've got Daniel Jones from Duke at thirty two, right, Will Greer at forty one, and Drew Locke at sixty four. There's your top five, Finley and

Finlay's after and Finlay's after ninety three. Yeah, So I mean, like I say, I think someone will be very very happy with Drew Locke, you know, I you know, you watch him play. There's a lot, there's a lot to like about his ability. Like I said, I feel like that he has of the of the armed talent. You know, he's very much similar to what Haskins has, that that type of guy that can can throw off balance, doesn't

have to have his feet set. But I just went for a little bit more accurate guy with career West Virginia. And it's it's hard to evaluate the big twelve guys too, because of the fact that the lack of defense that's played overall in that in that in that conference, it's it's tough because there's a lot of open throws, limited pass rush. Offensive lines are big. The Oklahoma line is huge. If you watch what you know, your your value where you had Samia gave him as a third round Yeah,

Drew Samia absolutely. I mean position Oklahoma's got some players. I I just tried to be different from my board. That's the whole idea. Yeah, Okay, I laugh because you mentioned the big twelve defenses and I, oh lord, I had to watch that Oklahoma defense weekend in week out. Sure, And there's one guy you don't have in your top one hundred that I really like and this is gonna happen. I mean, it's some people like Vanilla's, I'm like chocolate whatever.

Hakim Butler, the wide receiver from Iowa State. Yeah, but maybe it's because I saw him destroy Oklahoma not one year but two years in games and uh and so I like him. But I have dug into I haven't seen all the drops that others have seen in the route running. I'm just looking at I'm a drive by YouTube watcher, you know, And so I don't in the work that's that's you know, you have an opinion if

you do the work. I appreciate that. I think with I think the thing that that that people people absolutely love Butler's size, there's no question about that. You know, you're telling my guy at six to five yeah, two you know, two hundred and twenty something pounds. I mean, he's a physical player with the ball in his hands. And but you do see some times where he'll body catch the ball, and I think that leads to inconsistencies

with him. You know, you see him for a big guy, he should try and snatch the ball more, you know, extend those hands, use those big hands to try and and and and get the football. But you know it really where you watch him play, it takes him some time for the double moves and stuff like that. You know, he's legitimately a four high four five four six type of runner. I know that the eight yeah, but but

you watch him play, he doesn't play that way. You watch the watched the tape at iwas stayed, and he's not a guy that plays to that speed. There's a lot of guys have trained just he just dominated in the in the big twelve and uh and seemed to have strong hands, although apparently had drops as well. Uh. And the other thing I'm intrigued about with him is he was a basketball player and he and I think there's a lot of potential with him because he came

to football late. And in fact, if you're familiar with the Harrison Twins who played basketball at Kentucky, Uh, he's cousins with him, and actually his mom passed away after a battle with cancer in two thy twelve. And the Harrison twins who live in Houston, he grew up in Baltimore. Uh, they took him in in Riston and their dad and so he played basketball and then became a football player. But anyway, it's interesting he got Noah Brown here smoking

exactly one game against cornerbacks are now in prison. All right, oh it's not We can we continue with our draft preview and we take your phone calls. And there's another guy who I have to hen Brian brought us down on because we agree about a guy who is one

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Day for details. And of course, the Cowboys don't have a first round draft pick, but there will be a party going on nonetheless on Thursday night here and then of course, they've got a second round pick number fifty eight overall on Friday night, a third round pick number ninety overall, couple of fourths one twenty eight, one thirty six, the fifth one sixty five on Saturday, and then a seventh round or at two forty one. That's where it sets right now. What's Arizona's picking the top of that

round is that it starts that round one? Is that one h four? The third their fourth the one that starts the third day It is one h three one h three. Ye. Would you guys consider taking both your fourth round picks the ones we just med first pick on Saturday. I get that first pick on Saturday. Yeah, would you consider that to move up to the top of the fourth Yeah, we said one oh three. We're gonna we're gonna package one twenty eight and one thirty six and go. Do you to have a player you

think might be there? Well, I'm thinking that we're gonna sleep on my board after after I'm gonna do some damage at the end of that round. I gotta pick at ninety. I'm gonna do some damage at the end of that round. I'm gonna try and hit him, and I'm gonna come back at him again to start the next day and maybe and maybe because I don't have a sixth Yeah, so I'm gonna sit there. You know, I'm gonna use my four my well, I mean use both my fours were gone him, use my four to

go up. I wonder I didn't say if there's a player, because usually when you're that, when you sleep on your board that third day, there's somebody there. There's that there's that player that's been you you maybe have a second round grade on or a third round grade on that you really really really like. That makes it makes a lot of sense. Well, it wasn't correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't Xavier Woods a guy they had kind of pegged in that range and they thought maybe did they think

about moving up for him? And he kept falling and he kept falling. J Yeah, Joe Baker sixth round. Joe Baker came in and did a little talk with us. He's one of the coach is nice enough to you know, I guess he wasn't feeling like he wasn't doing anything. So he came in and during the draft and you know, we got on him a little bit about mag You gotta go to Xavier Woods. You gotta go get him. That's our guy. A third round, you gotta go get him,

you know. And sure enough that worked out. But you know, maybe there's a guy like that, Maybe there's a guy that has a high grade and if you could just parlay those two fourth round picks and try and get you that's a valuable pick right there. I'm sure, I'm sure that Arizona is going to get a lot of offers for that pick. And then, you know, but that's the reason why they were bad and they had the first pick. Or weren't they trying to move up in

twenty sixteen to take a quarterback Cowboys? Yeah, yep, begging and where they wound up, of course, taking one and one thirty four, But they were trying to get to the end of the third round, maybe top of the fourth. Was that Connor Cook? Connor Cook from where Connor Cook? Now he's on the street. What Oakland drafted him? Right? Yeah? The AAF just folded. Boy. Yeah, where's Paxton Lynch? He's he's also where I deserved. Yeah, he's made me look

bad there too. That's another one of those picks though. You know, these quarterbacks are difficult to evaluate and I never get him right. So that means Mickey's guy Locke will probably be a hall head number six to the Giants. Yeah. Absolutely absolutely. Connor Cook, by the way, is with the Detroit Lions. That's I was looking, Michigan. I was looking. I was looking at up future guy this off season picked up? Didn't they as a backup? Yes? They did?

Jacksonville wrong about that sounds right? I hate that I don't remember where all my misses go. I should I should remember all those guys go. He is still in the league. Yeah am I No? Never mind? But to Brian's point, I mean Drew Locke may not be the sixth best player in the draft, but especially now that the picks are slotted, they don't cost as much as they used to to pay a quarterback in the first round.

I mean teams are more comfortable region for a guy Tyler Murray the first best exactly, because if you nail it, that's the most important position on your team by far. It's worth region. Somebody helped me on periscope, Please where uh my guy is? Paxton Lynch. I guess I could look that up myself, but I want to get people involved. Yeah, let's get help us out. Yeah, help, I mean you can come on, help us out, periscope. I know you're out there listening, So help us out. Um. Yeah, you

know they can him. I know where he is, but I'll wait if you want to know, let's go go for it. We hang on. These people, man, they're just morched and talking about the guy's draft and they don't care about Packson Lynch. It's not where. I did not remember that he's here. I looked at Jacksonville. It's not there, not Jackson. No, it's not I thought to the opposite extreme of the you got the other way, you got him? Yeah, go ahead, Where is he? Where did you get him?

I just are you punched him? Where's it? Bill? Please? Seattle? Seattle? Okay, there we go. I know something about quarterbacks up there. Okay, Okay. I want to see the picture. I want to see maybe he can save my ass. I want to see the picture Paxton Lynch alongside Russell Wilson. Yeah, except the picture that came up. He was still in his Denver uniform. Yeah, Seahawks. Yeah like your evaluation of him, Thank you, Damian. Damian

Miles came up with that, appreciate that, thank you. It is the hardest position to evaluate because I'm an idiot. When you can quarterback, you can look at all the measurables in the world for a quarterma and he had all of them. Yeah, and I'm tall. When Elway took him, I was like going, oh, thank god, because I was

thinking that and maybe John Elway does. And then all of a sudden, I start hearing, Oh, the Cowboys were trying to trade up, and I'm thinking, huh, all right, great, and now I'm thinking, like, man, the Cowboys are idiots like me. About these quarterbacks. There's so much that goes into that position besides dangibles. And Dak Prescott is the perfect example because Dak has talent, a lot of talent, but he's got other aspects to his game that make him valuable and that's why he's gonna make a lot

of money, a lot of money. All Right, who's your pet cat in this second and third round? Who in this draft? Who's the guy that you like that? Oh? Any of you? Anybody? Day? I got a guy. I've got a guy. But I'll let y'all go first. Well it is okay, Well, let me ask you this because one of my pet cats I had to do him. My position is what I did. And the guy I would absolutely love to have is and I think we all maybe I shouldn't say all, but I think fans

would appreciate the kid right from Washington. I was gonna say that's the one. Well, and then another guy I really love is the Joe Wan Williams from Vanderbilt, the big tall corner from Vanderbilt, because he's like, he's like a prototype for Christopher Shard. He's perfect for Christoph Schard is what he is. So you know, I kind of look at him. I kind of look at you know, uh, I look at call your the defensive end from from from from TCU. I love the Williams kid from Texas

A and m the running back. That's my pet cat. And there you go. I'm a little biased, but I mean I think he's a guy beyond Williams. Yeah, you look at him and he say, maybe it can't be a full time back, but he's gonna help your football team. And he's a he could be a change of pace. He can he can step in, he can pretty much do anything you ask him to do. Back there, I think the Warring kid that's tied end from San Diego State would be an interesting guy. Guy's a water polo goalie.

I mean, I here, we do all kinds of the crazy things here at the Cowboys with tight ends. You could be like, you know, have all kinds of crazy things and they'll draft you. But yeah, this Warring kid him Nada. I know, Nada doesn't run very fast. But I think somebody's gonna get a really basic play tightening from Georgia. I kind of a guy I really like. All right, my pet cat? Is this the guy you

agree with me on? Bill? I agree with you because you've got him ranked in your top one hundred, and so does gil Brand and you want a top one hund Yeah he had, he had a top one fifty. Oh good for him, Good for him. Did you see that he came out last week sometime and so pariscope slightened us up. They say they want love for Savage, the kid from Maryland, Dontrell Savage. Yeah, they want they want to they want to range long safety guy. It's what they want. Okay, got one. The guy that I

like who, I mean, he's a sleeper guy. If you look at a sleeper. Well you said pet cat. You didn't say, well, he's my pet cat. Okay, love him? Yeah, I would take him in the second round myself. Okay, kay. Jalen heard wide receiver Baylor. Oh I love of that guy. Okay? Is this another guy that lit up Oklahoma? No? Well, now,

I mean he was all Baylor had basically. Okay, but if you don't aren't familiar with his story, he was a top recruit running back recruit out of Tennessee, went to University of Tennessee, started at running back and Brian you know all this stuff, started at running back, ran for thirteen hundred yards one year, started ahead of Alvin Kamara at Tennessee at running back. Yes, and then made

the decision himself. I think after a couple of concussions as a running back at Tennessee that he felt like in the NFL he would have a longer life and maybe a longer life in general if he did not

play running back anymore. And he was a two hundred and forty pound running back at Tennessee and he made the change to wide receiver and he didn't went into what was then there's now a transfer portal there wasn't a transfer portal then, but he transferred from Tennessee and he winds up at Baylor did Baylor and just liked the whole atmosphere there, and he played the slot and he also played some running back at Baylor this past year. And I just love this guy. They brought him in late.

He was one of the last visits they had, and you know, he was kind of I think there were a lot of teams out there that were running him in to kind of get an idea about him. You know, he had a knee problem and so his scope his forty time wasn't as good. I mean going into going into the fall, everybody had about a four four speed on him that was numbers four four with a forty

vertical and a three eighty five exactly. And then but he but then he turned around and he ran like four to sixty three and the forty and some people kind of fell off him a little bit. But you know, this guy, You're you're not wrong about this guy. Bill, you know talk about he didn't want to get you know, concussions and stuff like this. This guy run routes underneath though. He will take a ton of routes underneath, and uh, you know when you get the hands, the hands gonna

the ball, he can make plays. I mean for a real tall, long guy, he makes some really nice moves in space. You know, you've kind of feel like that, tall lanky guys have trouble turning and breaking and cutting and this kid does not have any of those problems at all. So six six four and a half, two twenty eight to ten inch hands and his number, he had sixty nine catches, average fourteen yards of catch whatever. I'll carry the ball forty eight times for over two

hundred yards and three touchdowns for Baylor this year. But but he I'm telling Matt Rule, the Baylor head coach who almost got a head coaching job in the NFL this offseason. Sure he quote from him, He'll play a long time in the NFL as a wide receiver. He will be an elitewide receiver. I've got a good friend who's on the coaching staff down there, and he said he's never been around a kid who practices harder than this kid does. And another coach down there said, literally,

this might be the most talented player I've ever seen. Oh, kN Garrison, some Yeoman's work here. He's got Tennessee highlights in him running the ball on point. So if you're watching along with us, he's got Baylor highlights and he's throwing Tennessee highlights at you. A great job, Kient Garrison giving this. This is what I love about preparing for the draft. I dig in And that's why I have this green notebook. Is I dig into, pl to it

and try to find players like that. Sure, I have no idea if this guy's gonna he may be a bust in the NFL, whatever, but I just enjoy finding players like that, and I think I think he's got a good shot at making it for a long time in the league. Third round, I like, I say I would take him at number fifty eight. I'm not you got him at number seventy five. I think on your list, Gil had him at eighty nine, and I think, um, Jamie, I think I think he may maybe it may be

hard press, but that he'll be there at ninety. I've got him as he is my let me count these guys that would be five six. He's my seventh best receiver in the in the draft, is what he is. So take it back and he's my eighth best receiver in this draft. So yeah, I've got him at the top of the third round. So that's where I would I got him behind Ridley from Georgia is who I've got. So we'll see and you know, in his position flexibility. Okay, how would he fit on the Cowboys? Okay, yeah, obviously

you got Randall Cobb in the slot. He was a former running back at Kentucky. There you go, and he was another one of my pet casts when he gave for sort of the same reasons he could play as a you know, he as a rookie this year. Well we we've already talked about where the Cowboys are at wide receiver a year from now, right, but he would have a role immediately on this team either as a slot as a third down back in the backfield. I'm

they need a back, right, need a backtrack back. And people talk about, you know, you got to have a running back, right, they need a running back to backup Zeke, And that's true. But Zeke has not shown knock on wood injury history. You know Randall Cobb has, so maybe you know, maybe wide receiver. You look at that and say, okay, maybe we do need some deb just in case, I just got my my charts of all the teams and

stuff and from the college visits. Philadelphia has two picks ahead of you in the second round, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know how many they have in the third. But they Philadelphia visited this kid. They visited a J. Brown, Paris Campbell, Kennil Harry, and then also Jalen Heard and then so they they're there. They ran in some receivers there as well. Looked at him to yeah, let me check that he might have been a visit with them as well, like you talked about, So this kid. A

matter of fact, I just flipped to Tampa Bay. He visited Tampa too, as or as as well. So and he also visited the Tennessee Titans as well. I'm just flipping through these teams right now. Let's see if you visit the Washington Redskins. Uh No, No, visited the Redskins. So anyway, Yeah, there's there's several teams that are very very interested in this players. No, there's no question of that. Anyway. That's my guy, that's your guy. I think it's strapped

to build. Feel free to patch yourself on the back if he gets drapped in he will you'll get drafted. I mean, like I say, I just I named off New York Jets. I could just go through all these teams. Uh, let's see if he visited the Giants. No, he didn't visit the Giants. And again I could spend all day doing this and uh, you know, I just name like four teams right there that he's already five teams he's already visited. So at Minnesota Vikings add that to this

guy was the wonder. He came to the Cowboys so late. He was traveling all over the country. He's got a free ticket on American airlines. Now, all traveling he was doing. And you catch him at the Admiral's Club. Yeah, you go interview him at the Admiral's Club. And if you do a search on him, different mock well not mock drafts, but draft lists that that aren't up to speed, he's listed as a seventh round prospect. Wow. Oh yeah, that's the problem. I can change between December and April. Right,

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Eight D eight eight five five two two ninety seven is the number two calls. We've got several minutes left to entertain your draft questions or any other questions you have about this Cowboys team, which is out on that practice field as the official offseason workouts began last week, and it looks like there's very good attendance out there. There is because they're all on one field. Yeah. Yeah, they're all crowded together. Now. Things under construction here at

the start. We know enough about the draft to say on periscope they're asking, and this is from our buddy Smith. He wants to is there somebody the fourth that could be a steel Bill? You've kind of looked at this. Is there somebody you like we would talk about heard? Is there something that in those fourth round those two two picks? Is there? How about that? Is there a position? Is there a position you guys are looking at and you kind of have earmarked. See I want those two

picks right there. I wonder at safety, you know, because as it changed at the safety position, say Earth Day was yesterday. Yeah, thanks, folks, appreciate you, Brian. Have things changed as far as the safety position is concerned in recent years in the last couple of drafts where they take safeties earlier. There is at one point where safeties you could find safeties in the mid rounds because there

wouldn't be corners would go earlier. But because of the way things have changed in the league now there's more of a premium on safeties because there's a bunch of safeties that in fact, you've got how many of your safety you've got one, two, three, four or five, six, seven,

eight safeties in your top one hundred right there? Yeah? Okay, Yeah, So if there's not that run on safeties in the third round, second and third round that we anticipate, maybe safety is a position that could be there in the fourth round, could be one of those that you want to trade up for at the beginning of the fourth round. Yeah, exactly. We're looking at safety because we feel like it's the most unstable position. Well as far as the level of

players there. I think there's an opportunity. Is that why we keep talking about safeties. There's an opportunity at safety. I think for a guy to come in and compete for snaps, it's possible. I don't I don't think signing you LOCA precludes a guy from coming in and doing that. Right, and at least you know, Jeff Heath is probably to me still you're starting strong safety. But it doesn't mean you know, they've proven they will make a rotation at

safety if a guy earned snaps. So it's hard looking at the roster and saying then this guy could be a starter even at fifty eight. But safety is one spot, and we talked about it earlier. There's it's wide open a year from now unless they bring all these guys back. So so you think they're taking their taking a look at their board and they're saying, well, they maybe they

don't have eight. I mean I have six, eight, eight, Okay, if maybe they have five, Yeah, maybe they have five safeties in their top one hundred and you have seven corners in your top one. See that's what I'm saying. Maybe they're looking at this and saying, you know what this might be a good time for us to grab it. Oh wait, I take that back. I screwed R one three four. You have more corners in that one eleven night gill say? Did gill say it's the deepest safety

class he's ever seen? Something like that? Does that mean you don't have to take one in the second? Maybe not. That's kind of my point, maybe that it may be the strength of it may fall into the fourth. Then if you were looking for a pet cat. One guy that I like is Up Hooker from Iowa, Right, Amani Cooper Hoop Cooper Hooker, because he's a guy that he If you like Xavier Woods as your deep safety, this is a guy that he can play in the box. He's a sure tackler, he's made some plays. I think

he had four picks last year. So this is a guy that kind of fits a positional need for you, um, but also might be interchangeable, which is what this guy. Yeah, and that's the thing in rob And you're absolutely right about the description of the player, absolutely right about him. And he's a and he's a guy that is probably beyond the fifty eight range. He may be a ninety guy. Yeah, right, If you're like Bill saying, if it drops out a

little bit. Yeah, I had him outside, I had him in the fourth, but fourth, that's kind of where, you know, I mean, this guy has got some ability. Mean you would when you watch him play. He's a physical guy. And I think that's the you know, if they if they're looking at at play in woods as that single high guy and having somebody that can stand next to uh Smith and vander esh and and hold his own down there low. Yeah, this Maury Hooker is not a bad guy. Even could consider there for sure, say say

Money Hooker and Mary Cooper together back to back five times? Yeah, I tried. Do you think somebody, I mean, okay, asking on a pariscope, you think they would dress the offensive line there? We got a lot of people writing in on our mail bag wanting that you know, at which at fort well, just somewhere fourth. Yeah, they need an offensive alignment? Yeah, which anybody that can groom them? Yeah, well, no one's coming out of the woodwork on this team.

I wonder what they really think of Redmond And I threw the name out there. They used him. He played some games, I mean, let's did okay, Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying, maybe, you know, with the two year deal too, with Fleming, maybe they think Fleming could be I'm I'm with you guys on you know, I'm with you on the offensive lineman part. I think a lot of people see running back as being everybody wants

Bryce Love. Stanford Kicks could get a steal potentially, yeah yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah, but that's you know, Bryce Love might be a guy that starts on pup and then next thing you know, he's you know, he's one of your guys. And you know, for the for the two thousand yard rusher in college that is probably gonna get drafted below his talent level. So yeah, all those same lines. I love Rodney Anderson. I mean, I don't love all the OU players. That's

one that I do love. I guess okay, but the problem with him Bill the injuries, neck, broken leg, knee. I you know, my backup guy cannot be a train wreck, right, my backup guy. But he doesn't. I'm talking deep, He runs, he catches, and he blocks. There's no but if he's got when you start talking neck and running back, I just cringe. I turtle, man, I kind of what about the wide receiver from Clemson. Yes, Hunter, renfromer walk On

like him. I saw him play, I saw him make plays. Yeah, there's a couple of those guys in this draft, Mickey that are like that renfro, Andy Is Sabella. You know, there's they kind of if you're gonna, if you're gonna, maybe if I have to have a slot player, I'll just take that guy we just talked about. I'll talk about her. Yeah, Yeah, give me that guy. Give me somebody with some length. Fourth though, Yeah, it doesn't have to be a Cole Beasley clone. No kind of receivers

you can put in the slot. They all don't have to bet. Let me ask you this though, running back or wide receiver. If you had to take an offensive player at say, at ninety at ninety, would you take an offensive tackler or guard at ninety. I love Trevion, but you'd have to get him at ninety, you know. And my whole deal is who's the player? I mean, I think that they've got enough needs across the board that I'm looking more at player than I am positioned um.

And so if you give me two players, then I'll tell you, like, if I've got a choice of Jalen Hurd or throw me a running back. Trevion Williams. Trevion Williams, I'm taking Jalen Hurd myself. Yeah, because he's like your favorite guy right right, well, and I mean that that player could fill more of a need a year from now than a backup running back. I'm sorry, like they need to address the depth there, but Ezekiel Elliott, I mean, knock on wood, he's he's playing ninety percent of the snaps.

Usually it might be a little less than that this year, but he's a durable back. How much is as a backup running back really gonna play? And the other thing is if they're heaven forbid an injury to Zeke, then what do you got it? Right? I agree, I agree this might be unfair. Then okay, say you went her stern Burger the tight end from a and m Samia

the guard from Oklahoma. I'll this is kind of a focus for you because you like You're you're talking all my guys here, or Nelson the defensive end from Iowa. I like him too, so I'm gonna give you defend out of the equation. Okay, I'll take I'll take herd out of the equation. I'll go Sternburger. Okay, I'll go Sternburger, the Samia, the the the guard from Okay tackle as well, Okay College, Trevion Williams the runner from Texas A and m Or Nelson the defense've been from Iowa. I may

go with with Rob there on Trevion Williams. Yeah, run running back. So everybody's talking about running back at ninety then huh what about I don't love it. I don't have as much as I love it, but I don't have a problem if I and again I say I this is without really digging into the players myself. I've got a working knowledge of them, but I haven't dug in like Brian say, that's why you know it's unds fair.

I'm just but you know, the player they seem to like too is the Ferguson kid from Louisiana Tech who some people have first round. Yeah, so now now, okay Ferguson. Then at fifty eight, are you guys on board with Ferguson? Rob? Rob Rob read all these defensive line problems we have contractually coming up? Well, that's why I think my original mock I had Callier because defensive end, edge rusher. But it could be a need from for you a year

from now. It's not. You can't rule out addressing that pick, even though tackle might be more of a need this year. You know what position can get you beat? Quarterback? Okay, he's not wrong about that's obvious. What position can get you beat? Offensive line or defensive line? Yeah? Yeah, So what are you Wide Receivers not gonna get you beat unless you don't have a good guy. You're thinking about the Rams game. I still am. Yeah, he's not going

to get you beat. The free safety might the strongest. That goes back to what Stephen Jones said at the pre draft press conference. He said it's not a priority for us. Those playmaking safeties are rare. Right. If there's one there for you, you grab it is Darren Woodson there. Well, maybe not Darren Woodson, but he's like one of the greatest players. Every second round. I'm looking at my board and no, I just want to just position get you beat. And I can say no, no, no, positions not gonna

get you beat. Yeah, you know, here's the deal at defensive tackle. Okay, And I'm just going off the Brian brought us board here where you've got Quinnin William number two, Ed Oliver number three, Rashan Gary number nineteen, Dexter Lawrence is thirty three, Jeffrey Simmons number four on your list, Jerry Tillery's thirty seven, Christian Wilkins is sixteen, Draymond Jones is thirty six. So I just listed nearly ten defensive

tackles who are in your top thirty six, thirty seven. Yeah, it's better than the defensive end, right it's Zac Allen's forty five. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So that's what I'm saying, Bosa Allan sweat. Those guys are the guys who are gonna go at the defensive end spot. Now, now, where the run is going to be is on these defensive tackles. That's where that's where some people are gonna make some hay. So if he thought that much of that position, yeah,

then that answers the question, go defensive tackle, defensive tackle. Yeah, but they probably won't do it. I bet you they draft the kid Hill from Tristan Hill, Yeah, number sixty seven or fifty eight. I bet you they take him at fifty eight. He won't be there. Nine think I don't think so, and I'm gonna house similar to day in a mock draft. I'm gonna act like he's there because I think that they might take the cornerback Williams.

I think Chris Richard is going to carry a real big stick in this draft room and he's gonna hit everybody over the head with it. This is the type of guy I like, Yeah, this is give me this guy. We've got all these things coming out. Get give me this guy. Give me this guy. Okay, I got two more names I want to throw out before we wrap up here, and one of them along the lines of Tristan Hill, who's not getting any love. As Albert Huggins

defensive tackle from Clemson. I'm talking mid round, you know, fourth, fifth round whatever. Some people got him as a six or seventh round talent. But he's a guy who is highly recruited and didn't play. You know, they got five defensive lineman from Clemson's that's why they gave out. If you look at their snaps, he got just about as many snaps and had as much production as Dexter Lawrence

did for Clemson. I look at him as a guy who could be a mid round defense if you if you if you go a different route in the second and third round, he could be a mid round defensive tackle that you could. I'll give you. I'll give you a sleeper name too. It's not a sleeper. But if you running backs that Jalen Moore from Appleach you had him listed there. And if you don't know about Jalen Moore from app State, go take a peek at him. And a tight end Foster Moreau from Lash kind of

complete guys. The tight end goes and he ran really well at the combine, which surprised me. Kind of inline. He's got some inline traits, could flex him. He's got some toughness to him. He will probably go before a lot of these guys that we talked about. How tough is he? Okay, Yeah, he had a weight room accident where I guess a bar fell on his mouth or something. He lost three teeth, okay, didn't miss a rep in practice. Yeah, here's another thing you think about this team because you

mentioned Witten. Yeah, guess what. Foster more whose birthday is same day, is the same as Jason May six six. Yeah, he turns twenty two on May sixth. Hayson Winton turns thirty seven on May sixth, Foster More, what number did he wear at LSU? He warn Number eighteen, all right, number eighteen at LSU, famous number. That is exactly the number Brian brought us never war, did not wear. I'll

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