And I heard from the other locker room that, you know, we talk about the noise in that place, and it's real, by the way, because the press boxes open air and we're basically sitting in the stands, and it's very difficult for the offensive lineman going on silent counts to not get jumped by the defense that's looking at the ball.
And I think that led to a lot of problems that Cowboys offensive line had because they did not play as well as we've seen them play previously, and because of that, they got themselves in a lot of bad down distances. And then the Saints were able to pin their ears back. And I don't know if Dak ever got comfortable in the pocket. You know, yeah, he'd never got comfortable. Everything seemed frantic the whole time, even though
they didn't have one false start. It just seemed frantic the whole time, trying the change plays, getting guys in different places on the line of scrimmage, and it resulted in them scoring the only touchdown in the game, a touchdown. You know, I thought the Saints. I thought the Saints secondary was really good in this game. They they basically said, Amari Cooper is not going to beat us in this game.
They took their best cover man who who has had some problems and he covered very well in this game, and they said, Okay, Randall Cobb and and Devin Smith, you guys try and beat us. We talked about last week and mentioned that we felt like the Saints safeties were a poor part of their secondary. The plays they made were down the middle of the field and cover two. Never felt like the Saints safeties were nearly attacked enough in this game. Now, whether Dak Prescott saw it or not,
you know, it didn't matter. People are saying, what was Kellen Moore's game plan? Where it was all the play action? Where was all that? You know, I just felt like the Saints overall did did a great job of taking away a lot of that stuff. Even when Dak Prescott had time to throw the ball, there was coverage down the field. There was a lot of contested plays. There were plays that you know that you know we've seen. Now Prescott missed Cobb on a crossing round on the
third down. If he throws the ball in front, but then Cobb's professional, He's got to make that play. It's behind him a little bit, and then he misses Cobb in the end zone. You know, after he's does I don't know how he got out of trouble. He's thrown to his left. How many times we've seen him throw to his left and be accurate, but he wasn't accurate and he missed Cobb twice on key plays. It could
have been big in this game. And you know the Cowboys had an opportunity late in that game too, would they get you know, Sean Payton with a crazy call of throwing the ball late in the game. They get the sack, they get the ball back. The ten second
runoff killed him in that game. Yea, they just killed him at the end because you know, they get a heck of a play down the middle of the field again to Cobb, and then they're in a situation where if they could have gotten one more snap where they could have thrown the ball, maybe they could have gotten better field goal range. But the ten second runoff only lose their all pro tackle. They lose ten seconds in
the game when they needed those ten seconds. So not only did they lose the ten seconds, they lost the opportunity unity to catch the ball too. Yeah, because the guy was on Cooper the whole way, and then when he made his cut, the guy lost his balance and falls backwards and you'd get called for passing interference, which was a second one. And by the way, I don't know if you guys sensed this or not. Cooper, who nursed that ankle all week, looked like he was running
in mud. Now the whole day he was Friday's practice. I mean, they're not going to put a guy out there, but I don't think he was one hundred percent. But then he just wasn't. He just wasn't moving the way he normally moves. I think I think twenty three had a lot to do with that myself. Well, and twenty three had some twenty three. Twenty three played with a chip on his shoulder, you know, guys like myself, Mickey.
Everybody was calling him out of being a bum basically, well he was the week before, so well, I just know overall nationally they're probably calling him a bum. And I mean Chris Collinsworth called him out last night for giving up a lot of big plays. But he played excellent last night. A matter of fact, their whole secondary they did a great job. Dennis Allen did a super jobber Rush three, drop a clog and cover whatever you
have to do. They did a great job of mixing things up for Dak Prescott, not giving him clean looks, you know, and giving him an opportunity to get the ball to where he needed to. And the receivers did
a poor job of running routes getting open. I'm not going to make any excuses for a Marii Cooper because you know, he tries to run a slant and and you know Lattimore is all over him, you know, And that's and that's Prescott trying to force the ball in there when he had three other options he could have gone with the right. The secondary for the Saints was really good, and we talked about at the front flour.
They showed faith in those guys to stop the run up front, and their their linebackers around that couldn't block Malcolm bronco Row was a load inside. To Mario O'Davis, their linebacker was flowing to the ball. Mickey made a good point. I think he made the comparison to the fan this morning that that noise is a real thing, and it was decidedly a pro Saints crowd. I know there was a lot of blue in the crowd, but
they had very much a twelfth man advantage. They're coming off the SnO app defensively, and it reminded you of that Metrodome game in the playoffs about ten years ago. And I thought the same thing, Yeah, during the press box that it's hard. They didn't have any pre snap penalties. I don't believe the communication pre snap was good. But the Saints were flying off the snap and they were
flowing to the ball. I mean, they just that was a tremendous defensive effort, and you know, the offense said after the game, a wasted effort for the Cowboys defense because absolutely, you know, I mean, you hold them to four field goals, it's another slugfest just like last year. They did a great job. And what a play by Jalen Smith to give him an opportunity at the end. Oh yeah, hell of a call to they carry hider
to carry on getting home. And then also Robert Quinn took three blockers with him on that when to get Smith hometot Peyton said afterwards he kicking himself for calling such a stupid play. What was that going to be? Like a forty seven yard field they were trying They were trying to run the wheel route get Byron Jones. A lot of credit Byron Jones covered the wheel. Jordan Lewis covered the wheel coming out of that field, and then Bridgewater once he saw it cover, he tried to avoid.
And I mean, you know, the best hope you could have you got the sack, but man, if you could have knocked the ball loose, I mean, that would have been one of those things. Ball would have been at midfield and a chance to go win the game. You know, I felt like they had enough time to go win the game. I felt like that, you know, But but then again you kind of said, then I should have thought to myself, well, they haven't made any plays really
down the field. The chunk plays you talked about him only two of them to the one chunk play they were able to make. They didn't have enough time. They got the balls. A great throw by Dak that was one of the two to cop to Cob. Yeah, and then the other one that was the second longest play. The other one was to Jar one jar with the one yet both against covered two and so you know that's kind of where, Yeah, the team just didn't do enough to win this football game. Offensively. It just did not.
And it's a shame when you when you waste a defensive effort. Even though the Saints controlled the clock, they didn't kick out, they didn't score a touchdown. And I looked back and looked, and it's time they lost a game not scoring given up a touchdown. Was two thousand and two when they were just bad, awful that they lost I think a game nine to five and nine
to seven or something weird like that. So yeah, but that that and after all this stuff, we said they lost by two points, and Brian mentioned some missed opportunity, Jack rolling to his left money, he's money, Well, he said, I completed that ball a million times, you know. And and and that's look at that. That that was the second drive of the game. They left four points on the field. People will lose by two. People will say that the Saints, if they wouldn't have had the penalties,
would have been a lot different game. Dallas forced you into those penalties. I mean, the Cowboys pass rush forced you into those. Larry Woolford he was awful, I mean he was he was awful, and you know he was holding every play and you know he could have been called for more in that game. But if you said, oh, well, if the Saints would have just you know, if they wouldn't have got those penalties, now, well, if they had held, they were going to get the quarterback sat There's no question,
There's no question. So again, this was this was a big time wasted opportunity by the Dallas offense, uh to to to handle this game. And the turnovers were terrible. You know, Jason Witton, I mean, they make a heck of a play. They rushed three drop eight, Witton finds, finds the window, Dak hits him on the run, and then you know, and then aj Klein is in coverage and he's in such bad position, but then he rallies his ass off to knock the ball free. You know,
that's the kind of stuff. If you're gonna get beat, make sure your rally to get to the ball. That's a good lesson for everybody out there. But and then the zeek thing, I don't know. I mean, I thought I thought the fun I thought his elbow was down, and they're talking about the ball moving and on. I've just grown to know the officials are going to screw you anytime they can, so just be ready for them. They just gave up on that call. It was like, you know what, the guy in the field said, it
was a fumble. Okay, it's a fund but they didn't. They didn't call it. They didn't call it a fumble, right right, you can't bitch about it. I mean, what the hell there? Again, the officials are gonna do what they're gonna do. They're gonna they're gonna replay what they want to replay. They're not going to replay stuff. So you know, you're at the mercy of it. And they had the bulls eye right there on the replay, the downmarker,
the big orange circle. It was in the way of seeing the play a couple of times, right, you know. And Zeke said afterwards, I can't leave any doubt in that situation. Doesn't matter if my elbow was down. It kind of looked like it was, but not only kind of he was down and the ball wasn't. It was bound down, but he was pulling, so he was pulling the ball out. The ball wasn't out. What what the what they they said to the mercy of exactly, it's ridiculous.
But see what happens there. It ends up being a big swing because now they get the ball and they end up kicking a field goal when they wouldn't have had that opportunity, they wouldn't have time left. And then we can get into how the clock went from four seconds to two seconds miraculously on that last play. All right, let's get into a lot of all that stuff and much more on talking Cowboys when we come back in just a moment. Your new apartment's big. Such a great deal,
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and the Packers. Mickey, do you want to go from four seconds to two seconds to zero seconds? Jason's Garrett's fastest play in NFL history. Yeah, the clock didn't start. I have to hit something that would be stopped. Yes, yes, okay, so done. Who who was the official on the or the in the booth? Who was then the game guy? Let me tell you that because actually no, no no, no, no, no on TV. Oh Al Michaels and Chris Colin. No, who was there? Oh Terry mcaulay. Okay, so he came.
But he came on and pointed out after I went back and looked at it when I got home, that the clock doesn't start stop until it hits something. Right. So, if you remember back training camp San Antonio, when Bill was having Quincy, Carter learned to run out ball, throw it as far as you can, throw it out of bounds, and the clock doesn't stop until the ball hits the ground. The ball, the clock stopped as soon as the ball
crossed the sideline. It appeared to me in the world, it appeared to me that the clock didn't start until the start. Wait. Wait, it appeared to be the clock didn't start until the ball got to the out about No. I went back and he took a two strap, a quick two step drop right, and the clock hadn't started until the ball he was throwing the ball, and then it didn't and then it landed like five six yards out of bounds by time it hit. I talked to
Sean after the game, which showed surprise. He goes, you know that plight should have taken three seconds. I said, well, I think it took four. At minimum, there should have been one second left on the clock, and maybe you go to maybe they should go to Arena ball and use the decimals and have it tick all the way down to a tenth of a second, just you know
exactly how much time is left. I think. I think Sean and RJ brought that up on the fan this morning, and Jason Garrett was like, hmm, I thought the same thing, honestly, And if there's three tenths of a second left on the clock, then you can't get a playoff, just like the count the right and then you know, and those are those are those are the two circumstances to lead to a field goal. They lost by two. You know, all this stuff we've said, it comes down. They lost
by two? Does yeah? It does? Still lost? Oh I understand. Okay, what about the decision to go for it on fourth and one at forty three? Y? Yeah? I mean again, they ran they you know, he's he has confidence in his offensive line, even though they'd had some struggles in this game. I kind of was kind of going through the litany problems that they had just on first down runs.
But you know, I'm all for that. You know this this I'm sitting here arguing or saying, hey, make Bridgewater have to play, you know, I mean, go for it, go for it, trying to make him, try and make something happen, try and get your team going a little bit, try and build a little spark, a little momentum and all that. Hell, they had the first down, They had the first down. I just fumbled the damn ball. And that's you know, there's a question whether he actually fumbled
the ball. We don't get into that, but yeah, you're right, Yeah, I was. I'll be honest. At the time, I'm thinking puntered away. I thought the same just too well there and then because keep saying they got field goal ranch yet right, right, But it's a calculated gamble. You just paid this guy how much money. He's the best back in the league arguably, and they got the first down. I mean, you know, hindsight, they made the right decision.
You can argue the call. For sure. I thought he should have gone for it, and so he won the bet and then lost. Yeah, because the ball gets yanked out and let's not also forget and he probably still would have made the field goal. But it's third and ten at the twenty seven and they forced an incompletion and they get the personal file on Lawrence. He's on the ground trying to grab the quarterback and he gets
called fifteen yards. So if at fourth down at the twenty seven thirty seven, it was gonna be a forty five. Now that guy was going to hit it. He's really that guy. Every field goal he makes his over fifty yards appears he would have hit it. But there was a lot of circumstances to win to what seemed like
a meaningless field goal. Okay, it's nine three, you're only down to touchdown, you go in the lead, which it ended up ten nine, So yeah, a lot of things went into that, and then okay, you get to halftime, you're down nine three in the first half. Was a lot like even last week's game against Miami, where it was at ten sixth lead or whatever it was at halftime. But you'd take control of the game in the third quarter, which has been the Cowboys habit so far in the
first three games of the year. Of course, dak still hadn't thrown an incompletion in the third quarter of a game, but in the second half. The Saints owned the time of possession nearly nineteen minutes time of possession in the second half, and the Cowboys only had the ball that one time great drive in the third quarter, and until the final seconds of the game. They only had three possessions in the entire second half of the game. But
you got to go ahead and convert. The only reason that they got a first down on the second possession that the Cowboys got a first down the second possession early in the fourth quarter because they got a penalty on a third down play, So it was essentially two three and ounce. Offensively, after that long drive, they did what they wanted to do, and especially in the second half, You're right, Bill, they got to milked the clock. They used Kamara. He had some tough runs. You Cowboys defense
was around the ball. They played with great effort, but Kamara, he didn't break the big play, but he ran had some plays with incredible balance, second effort um. You saw why he's a great running game and what it did for them. Even when they didn't have a scoring drive, they were able to maintain field position where the Cowboys started. Yeah, more stead and so the Cowboys in the second after drives. Their possession started at their own sixteen yard line, their
own twenty five, their own thirteen, and their own ten. Yeah. That they had a three and out after the Robert Quinn sack too late in the second half that killed him. You know that that was they got got second in one and then they ran the ball and got minus one and then turn around and had an incomplete pass.
Am I right about that Bill right before, right before it's like probably three four minutes left in the game, five minutes left in the game, they had that untimely three and out that I mean, heck, they get they get a nice they get a nice play. They get nine yards eight yards to Cooper and then zero for Zeke. Yeah, and then uh incomplete the Cooper punt. Yeah, I mean
that's that's that's actually minus one to Zeke. Well, I was following along on the on the NFL Jesus site and they said Cooper for nine and then and then Zeke for minus one. Gave it a third and two and then they had their incompletion again, and that you know, that was this killer that Latimore broke it up. Yeah. See that's that that's to me is where that to me? Is where you know this game they needed to find ways they didn't make enough plays on third down. Yeah,
And I don't think it was all about protection. I think I think there was. I think the coverage was really good. I think I don't think Dak was as as as sharp as he needed to be in this game. I really don't. I wonder if the offer on his contract goes down now, I don't think it was gonna It's probably gonna stay the same. Were you um, I was just trying to be because they weren't third and
longs either. We're talking third and two. Yeah, they run the ball second and one, four of eleven, second and one and they get my this one because they can't you know, they can't block Malcolm Brown. Right. How much did the return of Rankins help the same? No, he was it was it was Brown. It was Brown and that. And now I'll tell you Tyren Smith, I know he got hurt. He didn't play great. Yeah, and you know Collins, I, like I said, every one of those first down runs
they had somebody had a problem. Somebody had a problem every time that they snapped the ball. Did you have a problem with how much they ran on first down? That's a big talking point coming out of this game, is it? I mean, running into a brick wall too often? Well, I mind, it just felt like just going into the game,
I felt like they were gonna do anything. It was gonna come on the edges, yeah, is what I was gonna You know that there was times where I felt I mean, if you watch the games they played against the Texans and the Seahawks and the Rams, those teams had success running the ball a little bit, not inside. You did. You mentioned that last week on so you know, to me, everything that was going inside, you know, there
was just it was just problems. There were more problems inside because they couldn't make cutoff blocks, they couldn't make reach blocks, they couldn't scoop. There were guys, you know. I mean, you know I saw one I saw one toss sweep that they ran where where Zach Martin missed his guy and the linebacker made the tackle. Maybe that took him out of all that stuff. But I mean, everything to me was inside, inside, inside, And you know people will say, well what about oh, on first down,
why don't you throw it? Why don't you play action? Now you're gonna get some type you're gonna get better results. You're not gonna get better results if nobody's open that. That was a huge problem in this game. You're watching the game and you're thinking, man, when is Michael Gallup coming back? Because how much could he help this offense right now? The way he's separating. They bet they bet that Smith and Cobb were not going to beat them.
That's what they bet on. You know, they play cover two, they'll play some play some man and stuff underneath, and those receivers did not do a very good job of separating. Seeing all these folks are yelling for play act. Yeah, when you run the ball for forty five yards, play action? What are they biting on? We're stopping. The analytics guys will tell you play action affects some regardless of what
the play action is. All right, I was thinking, you know what, analytic analytics start helping dumb people act smart because they can't see what's going on in the game. All right. I just I just to me, it was there were more problems run blocking than they were pass blocking. Yeah,
I thought that. I mean that, you know, the last the sack they get on, you know, it was unfortunate on the you know the in the final minute of the game that that is unfortunate right there, because again you lose your left tackle, you lose ten seconds, you lose little field position there, you know. So to me, you know, I mean the protection. They just did not win enough on the outside. And then when they did win, you know, the quarterback had trouble getting them the ball.
That's it, That's the way it came down. Then give him credit that third third and two to Cooper or I'm sorry to Cobb that was incompletely remissed him. That was a clean pocket. And you know sometimes three man rush, three man rush, sometimes the ball was coming out quick. But he had some clean pockets in the game. Um, you're right. I mean when you see Zeke one point nine, that's just that's not Zeke. And they just couldn't get
anything going. You gotta give the Saints credit, you have to, which by the way, on Tyrn Smith, so I don't I don't know if I've heard this term before for a sprained ankle, but when I asked if it was a high ankle sprain, I was told it was a medial ankle sprain, not in between as a high It's in between a normal and a high. So low is the best, Yes, high is the worst. And this was in between. But he's still going to miss some time. And they they they did it. You know, there was
no structural damage, but it's a sprain. Would have been the worst segament. It looked bad. And I would imagine at least two games that he misses. And here's the here, And I told the guys this morning on this. When you play at the Superdome where the visitor's locker room is and where the buses are, when you lose, you gotta walk one hundred and thirty yards across the field to get to the bus. And here's old tyrant Smith and this big old boot having the lumber all that
way to get to the busy. You know. An aversion sprain is a tear of the deltoid ligaments, or the inside of the ankle. It is often called a medial ankle sprain. All right, delt inside ligament. It's what we're looks what the mets were. Apparently the medial ankle sprain inside of the ankle, that's the one we all sprain, right us common athletes. Yes, I wonder if that's better than being outside you know the inside ligament better than the outside ligament. I don't know, no idea. Can't Fleming
get ready, Yes, the one that we knew. The ankle goes like that, Yeah, and a high ankle, it goes inside inside right, So yeah, I don't know what the medial. I guess the medial is kind of in between. Get Ready on the A lot of two tight end sets against the Packers. Okay, so Mickey will be We'll have his critique of Cam Fleming coming up shortly here on Talking Cowboys, and we return with more Talking Cowboys in just a moment. Their new apartments. Big, Such a great
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it goes. Tough, That's right. Tough thing. Uh injuries other than Tyranne Smith, who we have determined that will miss some time. Tavon, I mean Cavon Frasier, Cavon frasiertal to muscle. Yes, is it tour or what do we got? It's they need to decide, Okay, it's he if if it's if, it's not surgery, but he's going to be out for a while. I tilted bad sign when they ruled, just went ahead and ruled him out of the game in
the first half immediately. Yeah, it is probably something that was going to keep him out, So he's out for real weeks. Probably Donovan Wilson yep gets gets his jersey back. Yeah, he was inactive yesterday, so we'll see how that goes. I forgot to look at and then uh, Lawrence came out for a little bit. But he's fine. That sounds
like yes, excuse me, yes, sounds like it. Although you know they had him rushing only on third downs in the second half, and I think the Saints last true drive, I think it was Hyder was in there the first through third down at that point, and and and de law limped off came back. Tough guy. I think they think he'll be okay. Robert Quinn, I was I was about to say, okay, now, who who would you say had the most positive performance last night? And I was thinking,
Robert Quinn about Perry Mason. Just asked me, only the old people know who Perry Mason is. He's a lawyer who never asked a question he didn't already know the answer, right, Bill just gave you a Perry Mason he knows exactly. I'll say this though. You know Robert Quinn and and you know Armstead is a is a quality tackle that's not a bumb out there playing left tackle. That's not Chaz Green or something like out there, you know, playing tackle and you're just running around him. You know, they
Armstead had no they had no answer for him. They tried to chip him, help him a couple of times, and you know that didn't work. That's I mean that that's just a great sign if you're a Cowboy fan of that. His effort and the way he plays and the intensity, the way he's running down plays, the way he's running down quarterbacks, you know that can only help you going forward. Is he different than what you saw on film when the Cowboys made the acquisition in the
recent years? Is he is he? Or is it because he's healthy and he's he's always had that affility to rush the passer. I mean, that's that's that's his game. He You know, you if you maybe you do, don't notice until you've got him on your team, where every single play he is just he is. He has got so many any tools in the tool belt, as they like to say in the scouting world, because he will come after you he'll dip, he'll rip. He plays with his hands, he knows how you know. You see how
low he gets the ground. You know, when a tackle cannot get their hands on him, that is a problem. That is a big problem. And you get somebody where he's had some issues with us here early and when the OTAs and mini camps and training camp couldn't stand his feet. Last night, you saw what he could do when he's capable of not losing his feet. He's capable of sharpening in that corner and bringing your quarterback down in the pocket. So yeah, that's a that's a great sign.
You know. Then they're looking at that tape, you know, and you're handing out the helmet stickers, give him a few the way he plays. But it also tells you because it probably, I mean, for someone to be able to do anything at this level, there's so much work that goes into it in the offseason, just getting your body ready to do it. I mean, we're seeing him in the first bit of training camp and he's losing
his feet. Whatever, what it tells you. You You remember, you saw him two weeks ago come in here with football equipment in hand, right after he served his suspension. It shows what kind of work ethic that he had to maintain the conditioning and whatever he needed to be able to play at this level immediately. Yeah, three tackles, two sacks, two tackles for losses, three quarterbacks hits in a past defense that the line of scrimmage. Brian said, great sign.
It's a great sign for Tank too, because you know, they chipped Quinn a little bit in this game, but you got to make a decision at some point, you know, take the little tension away from Tank. Maybe he gets some more one on one opportunity. Five sacks in the game basically wasted. Yeah, five five didn't one get called back? Or are you counting the one that got called back they took a holding call. He had Quinn had Quinn would have had three would had they took a holding call?
Would surprised me. I'm kind of like, okay, you know, I mean they already had him back, but still, yeah, it's that that. You know. Let's let's be honest too, Tank step up the game too. You know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit there. I mean, you watch Quinn on the other side rush. You need that same effort on the on the left side too, you know. I mean that's to me, I I you know, that's if they're going to really get to sing humming, you know in the pass rush, you know, and they need
to get him going as well. Yeah, okay, So from what you could tell, what are they doing with Jaylen Smith Blitzen. That's his strength. He attacks the I mean they Quinn had a sack because he attacked the pocket and he was able to kind of bring it was. Quinn is screaming off the edge. Armstead's got no chance the back Murray has got. He's got a face full of fifty four where he could have liked he just said, no, I gotta take care of this guy screaming off the edge.
But Smith does a great job of attacking the pocket and it forces Murray to have to step up to give Quinn the free lane to go. So you know, all you folks last week, they're wanting to just throw dirt on Smith. You know, just watch the game a little closer. Just watch the game a little closer. That's all I'm asking. Would you say four bad plays last yeah, four bad plays and you know, and he affects the way is there are times where he looks like he's
running slow or didn't have the burst. Yeah, but I mean everything last night to me was burst and power. That's what this guy is. He's a burst in power player. They're going to be times where he does it pivot and explode like he should off that foot. You know it's gonna happen. But we're acting like, oh, this guy. You know, he took the money and ran nine tackles, a sack, two tackles for a loss, and a quarterback hit.
But I like this three three, five a lot alignment where you've got him up there and Layton for that matter, where you could rush either one of them or both of them, which would be seen such a powerful player that these guards. It's not like rushing a light guy in there and trying to make something happen with quickness. You're attacking the pocket with power, and you you're attacking the pocket with a guy who has a feel for how to attack it and get around blocks to get
in on the quarterback. Now, but they were actually getting better pressure doing that than just playing the standard defense. Wasn't just jailing. I think they rushed vander Esh and got Malik home on an early sack as well, and we Brian talked about splash plays. Vander Esh blew up a couple of plays in this game too, third down and it was third down and one and they'd run the toss sweep and yeah, here we're showing it right there. There you go. Good job, way to go with the Cayden.
But that's really yeah, I mean, that's what you're saying. You've got to finally that that's the player was talking about Smith right there attacks the running back to the point where it made it just allowed Quinn to come flying off the edge. So yeah, that's and right there that gave you that player held down to the ball. Yeah, this is I'm sorry, we're doing terrible radio right now. Unless you're watching what we're talking about here, might much
that should be. Yeah, but anyway, unless you're driving. I just feel like though they that Smith, they put him in those situations it is the best way to play with him instead of putting him in coverage. And so in order to use Smith in this way, do they does he need to rest some during the game. Do
they need to take him off the field. And they tried to do with Joe Thomas last week and then everybody was screaming that Smith was a bum, you know, but they figured out, you know, maybe maybe there's down in distances they want to get Joe to didn't see Joe Thomas playing he snaps on defense last night yet second half, second half, and then they had see they had Lee alongside Vanderresh at times too, That's what I'm saying. I saw more Lee, but later later it was Thomas
was in there. Okay, there was a start tape and I didn't. I just didn't notice him as much as they did last week fourth quarter. I think he was. He was in it, yeah, yeah, In fact, it was in the same series where Lee was on. Then Thomas came on, and I don't know, watching on television, it's hard to tell exactly what they're doing. I guaranteed Joe Thomas didn't have thirty three snaps like he did, but he was in there a little maybe yeah, yeah. Um. We can get more into that as the week goes on.
But I'd like to find out from you, Brian, if it's if this the three three five thing, is that a trickle up effect from college where you see some colleges with these now with the with the more prevalent college type spread offenses stuff and are reacting to it. Absolutely, you get more speed on the field when and that place to the cowboy's hands. With the strength at the linebacker position on this team, you get more of those guys on the more snaps for him, and you're going
to have a better defense. Thomas had fourteen snaps. Fourteen, I mean Lee have eight twenty nine played more in this game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's well, he actually played in some of the two linebackers. Way he was even playing. Yeah, yeah, that's why I was curious on j Jalen would be off the field in that situation and someone is trying to maybe I didn't see anybody
trying to sneak in on us. Okay, we have just been told that we have till twelve if we want, you want to take it till twelve, let's take it all, right. Who else besides Robert Quinn stood out, talked about Jalen Smith, talked about vander esh uh geez, trying to think of who else? Really, you know, if you look at you know, Byron Jones on it's funny how they played of the targets that went to Mike Thomas. You know, of the nine targets he had the It's funny how they played
him on four the nine targets. They played zone coverage against him. So were they worried about him getting behind him? You know, I don't know why. With Teddy Bridgewater the quarterback, we're just gonna nickel and dime under. Yeah, and it was. And then you know the big by the way Thomas got away with a great push off on Byron Jones on his third on his the catch, he made something I think you mentioned during the week I did. I said that he likes to push up. But you know, again,
the officials are going to call your guy. I mean, that's Jason Garrett's right. You mentioned it to the officials and they'll probably say that they'll get your guy. But they they missed, they missed Thomas. I mean it is clear a two hand shove on Byron Jones and missed it. But Byron cart he carried him one time out of the slot and that was when they ran him through the trash where they thought they had the passing offensive pass interference. But that was just actually a good way
of running the play. And then and then and then also Anthony Brown carried him on a slot play on a wheel route they ran. So yeah, I mean it's they kind of went it wasn't you know like I thought. I thought they would maybe take Byron Jones and put him on on him the whole time. Now on third down defense though, on third down defenses, Byron Jones took him. I believe here I have the let's see, that would be five times he carried him and then two of the times of the five that they had he they
got sacks on the play. So that that's you know, it kind of tells you a little bit about you know, taking your best corner and putting him on, putting them on their best player. So but yeah, they they had some They had some nice nice some nice coverage on some of those third down plays when they when they had to uh, when they had to to get it. And credit Jeff Heath for that shot he had on Ted Gin early in the game that finally the Cowboys get an interception, um, you know, and Cheeto comes up
with the play there. I don't recall you say anything about any offensive players. Well, you're asking defensive guys. No, no, no, no, across the board, I think the tight ends played well. I mean you mean, well, Okay went and had the fumble, but I mean charge they I just wish they would have gone after these safeties more. I just wish. I mean the middle of the field to me was where you needed to work and throwing the ball at a guy. I get it. Lattim War had given up plays. I
get it, played his ass off yesterday. You know, he took your best receiver out of the game, if you want to be honest about it. You know, and you could say, oh, well, maybe it was his ankle and all that. No, his kid played great, you know, and they just couldn't win at the other spots where they were winning was the some of the throws that they were making to the middle of the field. They were leaving the middle of the field open. The safeties were why I don't I mean again, I you know, the
safeties were. Bill Walsh had a rough day and calling. Maybe that's why they thought, maybe they thought it, did you know what they hid to be the head coach in game Ete, I'm just telling you though that to me, you know what, he had done such a great job of attacking team's weaknesses. He had and people say, oh, this is like Lenahan football. No, I mean the Saints didn't Allen said, okay, rush three o'clock, Dak's not gonna make a throw. They said, okay, Dak, you're not good
enough to beat us. I don't care how many throws or how good you've looked. You know, they put pressure on him to have to make some throws and they just couldn't come up with the throws. But the receipts didn't win. They didn't win minus scrimmage, running the football, you know, all those things that we kind of talked about, Oh, the Saints are bad at this. The Saints are bad at this, The Saints are bad at this. We went through a litany of what the Saints were bad at.
They kicked your ass and every single one of those things you thought they were bad at yesterday. So young Bill Walsh had a little problem yesterday calling ball plays. Well, old Sean Payton put up twelve points. Well, you know what, that was all he needed to do with a backup quarterback at backup quarterbacks two and I got you, yeah, yes, and they've they're two and oh because they've they've they have complete games, complete performances, special teams. They their fuel
position is usually pretty good. Five takeaways, takeaways defensively, I mean, they're winning with complete football. And that's really what the Cowboys did first three games of the season. They just don't count that last one is a tackways really four Um, I just wanted to accentuate my point. That's a sign of a good team. Though. By the way, I mean, you go up to Seattle and win that game, and then you play this team and do what you did with the way the Cowboys had put up offense, I
don't care who they played the first three games. I mean, that's you have to give the Saints some credit. Do you think that um playing on the road in a loud stadium like that affected of what the offensive coordinator planned to do in the game as far as what run the ball on first down for one or two yards to shot? Yeah, I don't think so. I felt like he probably felt like watching the tape that did he. You know, the Saints had had problems stopping the run.
The Saints had stopped problems stopping the run though on the edges, not inside, you know, and they get rankings back and by the way, nobody decided to block Malcolm Brown. You don't block Malcolm Brown. I mean, you get what you deserve, you know. I mean, that's that's, that's that's you know, you're you're that's an all pro center, all pro guard, you know, a guy that's trying to find his way at left guard. They do have four first round draft picks on on their front four. Yeah, and
I tell you like it. And they absolutely played like it. They sure did give him credit. They covered, and they and they and they they controlled the line of scrimmage. That's exactly what you had to do in this football game. And they did both and they and they controlled the quarterback. You know, it didn't let him out of the pocket. What what one time when he when he scrambled for the first down and got the roughing penalty? Yeah, the
roughing penalties. Someone said, Okay, how come they call they they picked that one up. Yeah, they picked that one up. But they didn't on the Dack one because it was a forcible blow to the head. Yeah, on the Dack one, and it wasn't. I was wondering where you were going there with that, but yeah, you're right about that. Yeah.
I had to watch it again too, because my first thought was, oh, oh, well, they got away the same, but you could see Jalen pulling pulling back he was he did not go to the head and the other one didn't, and which I didn't see initially, but then on the replay you can see it. So there was the difference on that. All right, Mickey, how concerned are you about the loss of Tyrann Smith. I'm very concerned
about it. I just think that to the point, would you move a guy over, No, I don't want to have to maybe weaken two spots for to save one, but you're gonna have to give Cam Fleming some help over there. I just think that's what they did last year, and they got away with it. Now you'll see if you can do it again. They win two games with him. It left Philadelphia and New Orleans. It did the Saints game last year they had and Mickey's right, they gave
him help. Jason Garrett was asked on the fan your question, and he said, well, get into that. But the natural move would just be keep everybody where they are and move seventy five into that spot and a tight end in his hip pocket. Yeah, or fullback, and you're looking at a stretch here. Green Bay at the Jets at home against Philadelphia, and then the bye week. He would hope that Tyrence Smith somehow, some way can make it back for the Philadelphia game. Yeah, that's your hope if
Britt Brown. I mean, he's done some magic with these guys here lately. Yeah, you know, I mean, hey, we're gonna maybe see Michael Gallop this week. You know, just keep keep that in moving. How do how does that type of injury impact the position he plays? I mean as opposed to Yeah, as opposed to other positions. He's got to be able to move. He still got to be able to push off and be able to test it in practice with Robert Quinn and not around him. That's about the We can't ask for a better test
than that. Yeah, you get the pro department a lot of credit for Robert Quinn. You know, get those guys when you go out and evaluate and you see new general manager, Hey we can have this guy for you know, the question was is he still have juice left in the tank. I think they initially got him thinking that maybe they weren't going to get into Marcus Lawrence signed.
That's probably why I think they were probably look like Okay, we have got to get a rusher just in case we don't get Yeah, and you got the Gregory news in what February and you don't know when he's coming back, obviously. Yeah, that's looking like one of the better moves they've the shrewd moves they've made in the last few years. I mean, sixth round pick exactly. Injuries held him back a little bit the last couple of years. And he's ad team
playing in a three to four and all that. I mean, this is where he's most comfortable rushing, you know what, and he's so engaged. He's so laid back, you don't know, you know kind of where he's at. But what boy, when he gets on the field, he's an engaged player. Yeah. Well, going, Well, the other part of it is, and I think you can go back to when he came out in the draft.
I mean from day one for the scouts, coaches whatever, they talked about what kind of person Robert Quinn is and so they they studied him when they when they came out, and they knew what kind of individual they were getting, you know, pro who's even late in his career, he's going to be taking care of himself and put himself in a position to big like, it's a shame that last night was wasted on such a great effort, because if they win, if they win that game thirteen
to twelve, all we're talking about is what a badass Robert Quinn was right and how you know, now we're kind of we're talking about it now, but not to the point of, oh my gosh, you see him do this. You see him do this, You see him do this, you know that kind of thing. I just it's a shame. You know, there's some great, some great efforts out there, and you know, to waste it on a backup quarterback beat,
you know the way they did. You know, thinking of for thirteen to twelve, how far do you think they would have had to get before he gave Miller a shot at the at the game winner, he said on the fan this morning, I mean he didn't have a It sounded like sixty two sixty yards, which would be the record what would have been if they try to just to line it up right, they were always seventy It was seventy. I mean, you know, yeah, that's a
little much. What's the record sixty three four? Yeah, he's got a leg but New Orleans Saint held that record for a long time. Sixty It was sixty three with Dempsey right right the wooden foot. But yeah, it's it's you know, they again, you lose your tackle, you lose a ten second runoff that that hurts you at the end of the game. That you know, all the all the that sack, and that's the and that was they
hadn't had to sack the whole game. And that's where they get it on your right there, you know, And that's that's the unfortunate thing right there, that you know, if you had the ten seconds, maybe you could run another play and then you know, because I give I
give Marcus Williams. I thought about how bad they're safety, so I give him some credit from making the tackle now as a heck of a tackle, because if Randall Coop breaks that, he's going in, I mean, he's he's gonna he's probably gonna fall down, and then he got all rally rally. Yeah, at that point, he's either got to go in or get out of bound down or they were getting far enough down field where they weren't
gonna be able to clock it. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, they barely clocked it for the final hill Mary, which was a nice play. You look like you're doing a three man rush and then you blitz the linebacker lay he almost that's why Dak couldn't get the ball. Yeah, they did that. Dak took a big hit there too, took a real big hit on the hail Mary. So, well, what's the magic number now? Oh no, that's the playoffs. So you look at the past weekend and what happened.
The Eagles went into Green Bay and one and the Cowboys lose, and so it's now a one game lead on the Eagles, and you and the Giants come and the Giants too are sitting there at too two and two? Yeah, and how do you think the Rams are feeling to day too? Tell you Tampa Bay, Tampa did a great job. I watched that game pretty extensively. They Tampa did a great job, had a great game plan. They attacked from the word go. I mean that was great job. I
mean they and they got to intercept me. They confused Todd Bowls did a nice job of confusing that that quarterback. Yeah, it seems like what you do confuse him and put him in bad weather, and you can usually beat the Rams with that guy quarterback. Fifty five points on that defense too many? Wow, would have great as to fix it. Yeah, we had Todd Bowles versus Wade Phillips there. Yeah, it was good. Good Todd did. I mean he did a guy's job. I know they got forty, but man, the Rams,
it was late and it was late second half. I mean they were, they were. The Buccaneers came to play. They're twenty one to nothing when the thing started. So good job on them for going out there at going all the way across the country after a tough loss against the Giants where all they to do is make a damn field goal, that's right, and then they were gonna win that game. So and a makable field goal they got. So a good offensive coach, yep, absolutely Arians Arians, Yeah,
no doubt about it. Yes, all right, we have much more to break down tomorrow here on Talking Cowboys, and we'll start turning our attention towards those Green Bay Packers. And I saw one of the break guys here. They should be coming up shortly here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club