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Talkin' Cowboys: Dissecting The Loss; Dak's Future

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What went wrong against Tennessee? The crew breaks down the Cowboys' 28-14 loss to the Titans and discusses Jerry Jones' support of quarterback Dak Prescott.

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the Star in Priscilla Elliott. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and a happy Tuesday to all of you out there. And this is Talking Cowboys as we kick off another week after a Monday night that was not so memorable at at and T Stadium

last night. The Eagles await on Sunday. I'm Bill Jones along with Brian brought us and Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips. Maybe we'll be joining us a little bit later and let him a little bit of can we call it breaking news this morning? You had an opportunity to do. Joe Buck and Rob Phillips will be joining us at a moment. Yeah, that's right. Radio there, Yeah, yeah, Gamox absolutely, Voice of Saint Louis and Aaron Andrews will be joining us in Yeah, a little bit, there you go. Rob

Phillips will be joining us a little bit. He's working on a story that um for the website that of course, Jerry Jones on his weekly radio show, basically made the comment that Dak Prescott will be extended, and so that sent writers scurrying about. He was asked towards the end of the segment about Dak Prescott, what he thinks of him, what is his development, and what do you see of him going forward? And he said, Dak is the quarterback

of the Dallas Cowboys. He's young, He's going to get extended. And that created a very long, pregnant pause on the broadcast, and then they find caught themselves and they go, oh, oh,

we got some news. Yeah, so there you go. Sean Lee's hamstring, Yeah, exactly all right, and he did not have an answer on how Sean Lee's hamstring is, which brings us to last night against the Titans, a very disappointing night for the Cowboys, the twenty eight to fourteen loss that leaves them at three and five, two games back of the Redskins, one game back of the Eagles, who, of course they play this week. The only saving grace is the fact that Atlanta beat Washington on Sunday, and

that means they're still just two games back in first place. Yeah, that's you know, that's the reason why you made the moves you made, and to try and go and take a division. It just you know, it's the halfway point you're kind of looking can you get in on a wild card? I think this team to get in the playoffs is going to have to win the division. And then so I'm probably not saying anything that people out

there don't already know. And so you've got a position yourself the best best way you can really disappointing last night, I felt like I misevaluated, uh, this team's ability to take advantage of some of the things that Tennessee can do,

and uh, you know defensively, you look at it. I just in my mind and when watching the game this morning, you know on tape, you know, bright and I'm real real late last night that the thing I just kept looking at and I couldn't get away from was how well that Tennessee played on third down and seven and plus yards. You know they were Those are usually bad down in distant situations for NFL teams. Not many conversions

or happened in that particular down in distance. But you know, tip of the captain, Marcus Mariota, the way he played, he was he had a lot of pressure in the game he had to deal with. He made some clutch throws. Their receivers did a great job of running some routes getting open, and you know, I was that that to me was was was shocking because you know, this is a team that doesn't doesn't do very well on third down.

I'm talking about the Titans. Uh, you know, but the Cowboys put him in some some bad down and distant situations, but they were able to come through. Uh. You know with this uh, with the to make the plays necessary to win that football game. And it's a it's unfortunate you didn't take advantage of some early opportunities, uh to cash in for yourself. The missfield goal clearly hurt you. The Prescott interception, I think that was just a bad

read on his part. He felt like that, you know, probably during the week of practice when they went ran short yardage and goal line that when they got in twenty one personnel that they that Kevin Bayard was going to step up and instead he ran with uh Maury Cooper. And you know, Prescott thinking now cav got a clean throw there when he really didn't have a clean throw.

So you know, the fumbles. A lot of things had happened in this game that that caused you not to win, uh win a game that I felt like you really really really had to have going here going forward these next few weeks. Bill, they had a great opportunity going

into this game. You mentioned Washington getting beat. You're playing a team that's three and four, had not played well on the road, had lost three consecutive games going into this game, was offensively challenged, and by all rights, you should have been up seventeen to nothing at the end of the first quarter if you don't miss a thirty eight yard field goal, which was Mayters first miss less than forty eight yards, and then you got first in

goal at the four yard line and you get no points. Yea, so to me at the end of the first quarter, instead of seven to nothing, it should have been seventeen to nothing. And they're on their way and this team's ready to fold. But you miss your scoring opportunities and then you can't get off the field. Defensively, for the first time all year, they converted eleven of fourteen third downs at seventy nine. Yeah, and by the way, to Brian's point on third and seven or longer. I just

added it up. They were six for nine third and six or longer, they were seven for ten. And it wasn't like they you know, they were ahead of the chains. They were behind the chain. No that yeah, they were Well, you know, you didn't get a good enough pass rush. You let him come up with plays, uh kind of you know, some gotcha plays and uh, you know, Shawn Lee only played seventeen plays. I'm not making excuses for him,

but this time I think they missed him. And by the way, we should point out that Shawn Lee, he obviously went out after the hamstring injury, but he was not in the game for the second and third series, including the eighty yard drive. He came in on the goal line on one play, the goal line play where they scored the touchdown on that drive. And I don't know if I was supposed to be his rest period. Two consecutive series that he was not on the field. Yeah,

you know. And and the way that Tennessee was able to drive the ball that that ten that was fifteen to nine minutes. That took a lot out of this defense. And you know they were uh we felt like going in at least I shouldn't say we Brian felt like that that that you could have handled the rotation would have been good enough for you. You know, you could

have rotated the defensive tackles. But you know, playing without David Irving, uh, you know, could have very well hurt the rotation, and playing without you know, Randy Gregory very well could have hurt the rotation, especially if it was you.

You were you were getting the ball driven on you and you didn't have those fresh bodies, because it looked like in the second half of the game there they hit some runs on you that they didn't hit early in the game, and that might have been a little bit because of the wear and tear that that Tennessee was able to inflict on those long drives and in the first half. So on the eighty yard drive in the first half, did you hear any reports of Sean

Lee that was not looking at him or anything. I wonder if he was having an issue with a hamstring then, because why on a fifteen play drive like that, you would think that he would have been on the field at least for a portion of it, even though it was like at some point moving the ball. That's one

let me get you on the field. That's one of the things Jerry Jones brought up after the game and then again this morning of one of the first things he brought up is he felt like his defense got tired in the second half of that game and probably in the course of that one night yard drive because

of the rotation issues. Yeah, Tennessee did a nice job, you know, as you mentioned, Bill, and the third downs to me were huge, the way that they were able to convert, you know, into the passes that they were able to come up with, the throws that they were able to make the receivers and you know, this is a group of guys that you know, you could say, Cameron Batson, who's Cameron Batson, Well, Cameron Batson's making plays in the game for you you know who is you know,

who is Darius Jennings. Darius Jennings making plays for the Tennessee Titans. You know, that's kind of what you hoped the receiver by committee group that you had was going to make plays, but you know, they just didn't do

a very good job. Mickey talks about the pass rush nearly wasn't consistent enough, you know, and and when they did get pass rush you know, the Mariota did a great job of getting the ball out and anticipating throws, and he had a guys that were opened down the field, and I think it was a it was a it was a bad night for the Dallas defense not to

be at their absolute best. They've been carrying this team really all year long, and they had they had a bad game, especially on third down, and I think that's really one of the main reasons. You know, you look at offensively what the Cowboys did, and it's you know, it was nice to see him Mary Cooper get going. You could see, you can tell some of the things that he has, you know that he can bring. But you know that nearly wasn't wasn't enough for what they

needed third down and in the red zone. I mean, they were four for five in the red zone and the Cowboys were one four in the red zone, right, you know. And it's nice to have a rotation on that defensive line, but when you start getting diminishing returns, like you don't have the two guys you just mentioned who you're rotating in there, right, do those guys need

to be playing that much? Yeah, you know, you're down to Kuran read and then you lost Taco, and you lost Taco in the game, and and Crawford's got to almost play the entire game at right defensive end, where he moved because they didn't have a Randy Gregory to put out there. So yeah, they got spread a little bit too thin, and it caught up with him at that point. And in a moment, we have Rob Phillips, and we have him right now. In fact, Rob Phillips,

how are you doing. I'm good, I'm you know, struggling through no sleep, but I'm sure everybody else is here. And how a little sleep did you get? I got a couple of hours. That's good enough. That's enough to try to make sense of what happened. And I'm sure you got a job of that so far. You get pressed into duty right off the bat this morning due to the owner's radio show. Yeah, yeah, he's doubling down on Dak Prescott. You know, that's his guy. And and

look they're trying to make or run here. They're still not out of it. Of course he's gonna back his quarterback. But I also think he really believes it. I think he's got a lot of faith in Dak. And but what we've seen is clearly he needs help. He needs help around him, he needs the defense to play well. And when they don't get all those things, uh, they're They're not a successful football team, not even close to one. Last night just not a good game. That's probably the

worst loss they've had of the season. And that's kind of saying something because you come out of the bye and you expect I Jerry sure sounded heat like he expected a much more efficient performance. I sure talk that way all week. I mean, you make, you make changes. You have a couple of weeks to integrate a new coach on the old line, a new receiver and who played pretty well by the way, but they just weren't

good enough any way around. And the biggest surprise when I came in y'all talking about the defense, that was the biggest surprise to me. But at some point the offense has to help them out too, you know. They've been, like Brian said, they've been the backbone of this thing for eight games now, and at some point you got to help them out. Well, they were helping. They got those fumbles early in the game, should have had a third one. Yeah, uh, and they didn't take advantage seven

to nothing. It should have been seventeen to nothing. You squander its least it's ast and at least thirteen because you could have kicked a field goal from the four yards. And that's what I mean, Mick. They gave him a couple of short fields. Yeah, and it probably should have been seventeen the first time. And they were fired up and they're rolling and and everything's going well. Uh, and you get another fumble that they overruled. Um, god, it

just and then it just turned around. And then third quarter, the Cowboys give the Titans a short field and what do they do with it? They go forty yards and score a touchdown, right, you know. And and at some point when it's third and I don't know what it would it was like third and thirteen, and you're you're getting pressured at some point just take the sack and punt. Yeah, you know, but he kept fighting, you know, And the

guy that sacked him was on the ground. They hadn't blocked him, he was on the ground, got up and hit him and pulled the ball out. Yeah. So that was one of those things we talked about. Bad decisions. They run those picks, they run those picks stunts where you know, they they they take the they take the linebacker or the defensive lineman. And you know, Brown in this case just you know, he hammered right into Joe Looney.

And unfortunately, though, you know, if Rod Smith just stays on his feet, you know, he cuts, he goes low to try and cut Brown. He cuts Brown, but he also cuts Looney in the play, you know, and and it's a lot of it. You know, there's some self inflicted stuff if you stay on your feet, keep the

pocket clean. They had some things that were developing down the field, but he just couldn't get to it because there was so much happening in front of him that he had to pull the ball and he tried to, you know, and get Brown a lot of credit coming up off the ground, like Mickey said. And then and then as Prescott's going forward to just try and fall forward, he's ripping at the ball. And that's you know, that

that's that's a disaster. Dak is. His inability to protect the ball in the pocket has been a problem for this team this year. And one of the reasons he's got to protect the ball in the pocket is because there's pressure on him. They're coming after him. The same thing on the interception in the end zone. He's got a guy flashing in his face. He's got to mail that into the first row. Yeah, and he tried to throw it up. He thought he had a Cooper and

he overthrew him and the guys behind him. And makes you hate to see interceptions when the guy's intercepting the ball behind your wide receiver and got to mail that. Just get rid of it. Because the guy was in his face and he tried throwing off his back. I don't think he's floating. I don't think he saw Kevin

Biden did into a spot. Yeah. That's one of those Friday afternoon goal line practice plays like I was talking about, where they draw the card up and they say, okay, we're in twenty one personnel, run heavy group, we play action it, we're gonna get a safety reaction. Well, this guy's an All Pro player, you know, yeah, he's you know he's and Kins did a good job here showing it. If you're watching on the screen, you know, with us,

and you might be listening to him. Sorry to go back and watch it, but Kevin Bayer never moved once once that Cooper flashed across his face. He went into trail mode and and rightfully celebration here. Yeah, yeah, exactly, so, you know, unfortunate. But Prescott, I'm sure in practice all week long when he threw that ball, there was not

a safety trailing on the play. So if he intercepted the ball in Philadelphia, when he goes stood on the eagle, there's something about they've already beat they already beat the Eagles at home. Yeah, they didn't have to go stand on the eagle. Yeah, they have to stand on the Eagles. See Amory calling for that holding call and he didn't get it. Well, he got grabbed. He could have called it. You could have got you could have got yeah, you

could have got Logan Ryan grabs him on the way by. Yeah, and the official let him let it go, and that that that happens. You get down in the red zone, you know they let you play, and you know that's that's the result. He did get grabbed. He was going, I mean, he was exploding past Logan Ryan and and he grabbed him, I mean clearly grabbed him in that official stands right there. It's sour Graves right now. I'm

not complained about the officiating. But I think this just goes back to what we talked about with Dak Prescott in his ability to see the field. At times, he assumed that there was not going to be a safety there. He gambled, he was wrong and resulted in a bad turnover. Well, when you're throwing off your bad back foot, bad things happened. And if it wasn't Dwight Clark, he would have gone up and cut the ball. I mean that's he just threw it up, figuring, Okay, I'm gonna give my guy

maybe maybe have one on one situation. You throw it, you can get that. But but the fact that he got held off the lit for the guy. He didn't account for the safe because Michael Down was not behind Dwight. Yeah. Yeah, no, So, I mean that's what he was trying to do, and and he overthrew his guy, figured I'll throw it up there. If he can't get it, no one gets it. And Amari kind of fell on the sword and said, I let the guy hold me. If he hadn't held me,

I would have gone up and made the play. Yeah, well, we never let anybody hold us, right, just called throw the flag. Hey, I'm with you, with you, there's a couple that just just oh, it's amazing. Didn't quite know that somebody, if we're talking about a fish. And I don't quite understand what Layton Vanders can do any differently than what he did to try and tackle a quarterback.

You know, he was going into the slide, you know he was, And here's a kid that's running full speed and he's trying to keep the quarterback from getting to the sticks, and he has it already started. Yeah, he started started slide and Vanders she's going down to try and tackle the game. Vanderas had already started his descent

as well. Yeah. And I don't know. I don't know what you can do any different I you know, when they all got together there, I thought, Okay, they're gonna pick up the flag here, but then they go, oh, well it's helmet, the helmet, but it's a quarterback. We got to protectactly. And I don't know what Vanderesh can do any differently. I really don't. I don't understand. I

understand protecting the quarterback if you're head hunting. I don't think Layton Vanderesh was head hunting in that particular case. I think he was trying to keep Marcus Mariota from getting any further down the field, and it just the way Mariota slid was the way he impacted him. And you know, those those are the calls that I think the officials need to look at and say, no, we're

absolutely no, that's wrong. That's you can't call that. But there's needs needs to be somebody up in the booth who is actually seeing the replay without stopping play, and they can say whoa wait a second, yeah, this he had already started his tackle at the time that the quarterback started his slide. I mean, they just do what college does. Go go look at it again. Yeah, because he didn't slide targeting he went when he slid, he didn't go feet first. He went as yeah, but excuse me,

that's fine, let me ask you guys. And and so when he slides like that, the head is where vander Ish is coming to hit him. And I don't care. He's not a quarterback anymore, you know, he's onto the pocket. That's that's what they said about dak in Washington that time he got whacked in the face and into the quarterback. Yeah, he's a runner, he's a runner. Let me ask you guys this though again, I don't want to complain about a fishing. Did you guys hear a whistle on the Prescott? Yeah, no,

not on the fumble on the time out. He was telling me about this at two o'clock in the morning in the parking lot when they had Ross sack Mariota and they said they got the time out. No, no, there's I thought there was another There was a whistle, was whistle when when Prescott was more about something you're talking about, totally different play, Mickey on the press, the Prescott fumbed it out. Yea, the Prescott fumble. Swore, yes,

there was a whistle that that uh Blakeman, Yeah, Clintman. Uh. He blew the whistle, And to me, that stops the play. I've when I played football, even the whistle blew, you stopped so I could slow doubt because sworn I heard a whistle, and and that's when the guys trying to rip the ball and then all of a sudden, so we didn't get a whistle down down by down right there, down forward, progress stopped instead. He comes out and said, there's been a fumble that that that done. I'm going,

wait a minute, you blew a whistle. I heard the whistle, and when I was watching it, I said, well, the play's over. Yeah. I didn't even continue to follow the fumble because I heard the whistle. It was it was like an in the grass, the old in the grass exactly, And there was definitely a whistle. But it was a clear fumble recovery in their opinion, no question. But the whistle had blown, right, so the place should happen, So I can add another one to my list. Yeah, okay,

I just wanted to make sure I do. I wasn't hearing things during the game, you know well, and there was not a wild scramble for the fumble. In fact, and as well as I remember it, the Tennessee guy kind of fell at his feet. Yeah. I mean, if you watched on tape, the lineman clearly are standing around, you know, Connor Williams. Those guys are kind of just waiting to see what's going. If there's no whistle, obviously everybody's diving in a pile like that recovery, which it

can get kicked around, especially when you got line. Yeah, yeah, trying to come up with the football. So you're right, I mean, there was no doubt and it was not just a whistle, it was a multiple, multiple whistle. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, Okay, I just want to make sure that I was watching the same game. So I guess my whistle was when they gave him the time out, when they sacked Mariota. When't I freeze framed it. When the whistle blew the ball was this far past the center. Yeah,

he had already snapped it. Yea, So how do you give him the time out? You could hear the whistle on television when it when it happened, and the play had already started, and that that drives over We sound like terrible fans. I having said all of this, the

having got a lot of issues. Having said all of this, the theme for Jerry Jones this morning on the radio with A Night to Sleep on It was he's not as concerned about the three and five record as he is about the fact that they're not playing any better than they all they need to play better. Yeah, they are not playing better, and it it goes, it goes throughout the You know, that was a bad night all around. You know, like Mickey said, you get the early turnovers,

you don't cash in. You have turnovers yourself. You know, you give up a third and sevens all night. You know, these are things that you know, if you're gonna win games, you've got to do, and they didn't. They're just to take the bill parcels line. You are what you are and that's really you know, that's where the evaluation has to start. Now we got eight more games to continue to evaluate. I don't think he's going to make any coaching change, much to everybody's out there's angst. I guess

is the right word. But you know, it's a situation where this is one that they should have had. It should have set them up going forward to the next three weeks, and now they're going to have to go fight their rears off to go win a game in Philadelphia. It could be done, but we'll see Rob Phillips as a comment when we come back there on Talking Cowboys, you can joy us at eight eight eight eight, five five two two nine seven. Kick Garrison here to take

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Now I've lost my thoughts? Where was I going? I was playing off what we're gonna play off what Brian said before the break, which was, well that's a mistake. This is a terrible loss, and I think Jerry's probably I'm putting words in his mouth, but Jerry's looking big picture. You know, Jason Garrett lives in the present. This is the worst team they're gonna face in the next five weeks. I feel pretty comfortable saying that that's fair. You've got a home game coming out of the bye week, and

I guess it was our mistake. I think we all felt like, oh, I'll admit anything. You're about to say, No, we were right. They just didn't play the way they were I think we all felt like they were gonna just play efficient, good, home, clean football like they've been doing at at and T Stadium. They didn't. And defensively, I think we've expected maybe too much from this group. You know, they you can't expect them to be perfect every game, and they didn't play well against an offense

that really has struggled to do anything this season. That was a big surprise. But at some point, your offense has got to score more than fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen points. Got to it's the only chance you have. And there's gonna be more of this if they don't If they don't pick it up. The other thing to remember is that Tennessee was coming off the bye two. That's true. And I don't from London and I have all season.

I haven't bought into this home versus road thing. I think you if you're a good football team, you can play on the road too. Oh they've done it before, yeah, before, And so it's you know, to me, it's it's you know, it's there's there's there's always that everybody wants to pile on, you know, the coaching staff and all that. I get it, I get it, you know, but I think I think that you know, this is all really part of the

evaluation of it. If at the end of the day, if they don't win enough games there it goes your evaluation. You have to figure this out. You know, he's trying to evaluate the quarterback. He's you know, he's made some comments about that. He's got evaluation already on that he's extending. You know, but okay, does that is he extending the quarterback with a new staff? Is it going to be the same staff. I mean, these are things you I think you have to play. To me personally, I would

let play out. I would let this play out and I would say, Okay, am I making a change? Am I not making a change? And you know, if I'm making a change, do I need to do I need to have the input of the staff that's here to say, hey, I can win with this guy or I can't win with this guy. That's that's why I think you have to be careful about, you know, what saying. And he's obviously got to support his guy. Now he does. Yeah, he can't say he can't say anything different, surely can't.

And you know, but that's I think me personally. Let's let's evaluate, let's evaluate where we're at here and and and make and make the best decisions, you know, for the team going forward. Okay, would you like to hear what Troy Aikman is saying? Sure? Yeah, it was interesting. What was on the ticket this morning? I guess and I just ran across this on Twitter. Here these are his comments from Troy Aikman. This team, over a long period of time has been what it's been, and it

hasn't always mattered who the head coach has been. To me, if you're asking me, I'd say there has to be a complete overhaul of the entire organization. You just can't simply replace head coaches and say now it's going to be better. No, it's been shown that it's not better. You have to address how everything is being done. And there's been times where I've heard Jerry say, Okay, look we're going to do it differently. I'm going to do I'm going to do it differently. But it's the same.

Nothing changes. That to me is the bigger issue. Yes, coaching is important, personnel and all those things are important, but how are you going about evaluating? How are you going about cutting the organization whatever that looks like. And everyone has an opinion of what it does look like. But I'm not in the building. I have no idea. I talk to people. I talk to people have been inside the building and have been pretty good understanding of

how things are run. In a lot of ways, there's a lot of dysfunction and that has to change that this team is going to be able to compete on a consistent basis, like the teams you look to around the league that are seemingly in the hunt each and every year. So in honor of election day, it sounds like he's campaigning for a job. Oh think so GM job? Interesting? Yeah, intersting, well, what do you think, you know? You know, it's but this is guys have come out of the booth before

and got GM jobs. And there's also a guy's one in seven right now are two and seven at San Francisco. So you know, I think that you know, the guy at Denver's not exactly lighting him up right now either, And there was a guy in Detroit that didn't, Yeah, he didn't light it up. Nice man though God bless him, he's having a heart problems. But Matt Millen, But you know, I there's a side of me that that I completely

understand what Troy Agman is saying. But there's also a side of me of working in this organization, you know, on that side of it that I know that the general manager aspect of not as not going to change unless he says to make it change. Unless he changes it by saying, Okay, it's now Steven's a general manager, or Will's a general manager, or somebody else's the general manager. Well, I just don't see that part of it changing. You

know that he I think he's dug in. I think he's dug in, and I think he wants to fix this the best he can, but I I you know, I don't. There's things I don't disagree with Troy Aikman there, and nobody wants to see these you know them have success. I mean, I mean more than me, I really do. Makes our job a hell of a lot easier when that works. But there, But he's not wrong. But but what's going to change, Well, this thing has evolved a little bit over the past several years. Will McClay has

a lot of over what they do. He's not the general manager. You're right, he's not. Stephen Jones is heavily involved, way more than he's been maybe ten years ago. Yeah, so this thing has evolved. But you're right. I mean, Jerry is the general manager of this team and he's gonna make the final decision. But I'm not trying to read into put words in Troy's mouth. But Jerry is not a one man uh committee here. I mean this he leans heavy, like to talk about that they're all

having decisions. Yeah, so you know, the comments seemed directed probably towards Jerry. And I wouldn't say that it's Jerry's ruling this thing with an iron fist anymore. I think he's seeding a lot of control in recent years. Now is it working right now? Look at the record, No, it's not. In my opinion, they're in transition right now. As far this team is in transition right now, the on the field product, it sounds like Traitman doesn't see

them in transition being any better, right. That's that's that's the thing, you know, If is that the is that the reality is that what they are? Is it? Is it? You know? Is it? Is? It? Not as simple as changing the head coach? You know that that That's where I I mean, I but but in my heart, I know that I know how this works. I know I know he's not going to change. And you know he could say, Okay, Stevens now this, or Will's now this, or he can bring somebody in from the outside. But

I don't see that part of it. If Troy is trying to get Jerry to change, if that's what he's pointing at, then Troy's just those are just words. Know this You know that this is gonna stay. You know, as long as Jerry Jones is able to keep his hand on the wheel, then that's where this is going to go. And you know that's you know, it's you could say what you could say. I mean, he learned from a guy like Al Davis. You know, Al Davis didn't give up control. He said, you know, He's like, hey,

I'm gonna run this team. This is the way I'm gonna run this team. I'm gonna do this team. I mean, I think Jerry is more flexible than what Al Davis was. You know, yes, but you know, I think I think that Troy's asking for something that fundamentally will not change here unless it's, like I said, passed down to somebody that's currently in this building. Let's go to Rashim in Pennsylvania. Rashim, how are you doing? How you doing, guys? Good? Um?

My question is, do you guys think that Jason Garnett would do a better dog and play caller that Scot? In my hand? I think I think Stott hand he did outstanding job against the jack balls. He was letting a glass up, passed the ball on first down, and then he just went back to being theisode of Scott. I'm letting hand. What's you guys think about that? All right? Thank you? Rashim. So I didn't hear the broadcast, really,

I watched the condensed version back this morning. So you don't hear a lot of the comments from Jason Witten or or Booger McFarland. There was my ure saying, there are quite a few towards the play calling, in the approach running on first down that kind of thing, right, sure, Yeah, and guess what they threw more on first down than ran the ball on first down they did? Yeah, go go let count them up. Zeke wasn't exactly having a

great day, so go count them up. How many yards was that kid said, Zeke wasn't exactly having a great day for several days this season. Two and sixty yards? I think seventeen carries, one thirty run one thinks the seven yards hen yards total for catches maybe? I mean, I don't think in the second half he had he can't. I'm with you, but I'm not with you because he had ninety six total yards at halftime. That's what I'm saying. He was effective at half at halftime. How many possessions

do they have the second half? Four and three? I think the first three possessions they got twenty six. After the miss field goal they had they had three plays for minus ten right the first Okay, the first twenty five minutes of the second half. This is when Tennessee won the game. As you all know from watching the game, Tennessee went from up to the point where Dallas got the ball back with four thirty eight left in the game.

Down twenty eight to fourteen, Tennessee had twelve at an advantage of twelve to two in first downs, and one hundred and seventy six yards to forty one in the second half. Are you down? Yeah, yeah, they got cowboy. I mean that's what the Cowboys like to do. Yep, grind you down in the second half. But you look at these first three drives out of four in the second half. It was either a penalty, multiple penalties, or

sack that wrecked. You're down in distance and now you're behind the chains to meet Ken that was that played as much into it was Zeke as anything. Then they got behind the scoreboard. Oh you got a gift with a miss field goal. That's like a turnover. You get him twenty would he missed twenty six yard field goals like shorter than an extra point? Yeah, you're all in. Couldn't block those guys, Yeah, So I mean the second half, no, yeah,

you go three. You go three plays and go minus ten. Yeah, that on that series, on that sequence, you know he can't. That's that's impossible. Yeah. And Zeke and the first half had twelve carries forty five yards and three catches for fifty one for ninety six total. Yeah. And then having the second half the second half he sixtches, five carries for sixteen yards and one catch for zero. Yeah. Six touches in the second half. Yeah, it's not good. No, it's not did you sell which one? But the first

two plays of the second half were Zeke runs. Yeah, so he had four. After that, Zeke ran for six, Zeke ran for one, and he hit Gallop for twenty and then an incompletion and then Zeke for six of his touches in the second half came in the first five place. And then they threw under to Thompson for six and then spots for a false start. So what are you gonna do? You're gonna get hand it to Zeke You're third and thirteen. Yeah, and then you get the fumble sack, right, and then so many six yard runs?

Why did they completely abandon that? Well? They okay, okay, Then the next possession down twenty one to fourteen. Arguing for that, I just saying, you want Zeke to be more effective in this game? No, you do. And then the next possession Zeke for three complete zero. After the completion, it was a Cooper completion for nine. Now you're first

and ten Zeke plus zero. And then they got real aggressive and through deep and he was incomplete right, And now it's still at one possession game at twenty one fo teen. Next time you get the ball and it was Dak sack minus two completion to Zeke plus zero and sack. But that's what I'm saying, minus ten on that on the right, right, you got a gift and then it's twenty eight fourteen, and you're you're in three wide throwing the ball, trying to beat the clock because

now you got to score twice. Yeah, now you're out of it's two minute offense. Did you see anything different Brian watching it back white for the offensive line in the second half. Did they do something defensively Tennessee to get more pressure? Oh? They this. Now they ran their twist stunts up front. That's so that's they got home more. Yeah,

they got home. They got guys home on that that's what they're you know, I mean I when you sat down and when you watch Tennessee, that's how they get pressure. The fact that they got a lead and they were able to they caught the Cowboys in some situations where they just didn't handle it well enough. Sen some blitz is too yeah, you know, and they they they're secondary. It did a nice job, you know if you look

at it overall. I mean the pressure that Prescott faced and he couldn't get the ball down the field or it couldn't get it to an open guy. You know. Now, the touchdown to Hearns was similar to what we saw with the Chargers game, where yeah, guy just freezes. Yeah, Noah, And you know, but thinking, okay, they can take advantage of the secondary. That's what something we talked about during the preparation for the week. Every time you watch somebody played Tennessee, they get him on a double move or

they get him on a pass down the field. Right, so you know that that kind of holds true. Now the next person next time, but Tennessee's playing Houston or something like that, Well, the Houston people look and say, oh, look, they keep giving up touchdowns on double moves. And vertical passes and stuff like that. So so that first possession in the third quarter, they're moving first and ten at

the forty five holding on Williams. Now it's first and twenty and they picked up twelve on the first two plays, and then you get a false start, so now it's fifteen yards of penalty. Didn't snap the ball on that play. They called it on Lyle coll I did to see him move. He never snapped the ball. He never snapped. Everybody moved, everybody but moving. But they called it on They called it on Lyle Collins because he was the

guy exactly right. So if you go from third and eight, you worked really hard to reduce it for third down, and now it's third and thirteen and then you get the act fumble. Yeah, so this team can't help itself offensively. You're right, they really can't. You're right. I mean, we say it should have been seventeen nothing in the first quarter. Well,

good offenses capitalized. Offenses that struggle don't, and so you know, maybe we expected too much either, But you did have a first and goal at the four yard line, and I would have probably just ran my star running back three times and gotten in the end zone. Really, I know he had a minus plan the first time. Yeah, minus two and I'll try again. Yeah, what was the second play? Interception on a bad decision? Bad decision, no doubt. You want your quarterback to be aggressive, you do, but

double coverage. Look he wanted he wanted that one back. Oh, I know he did. That's just that's what happens when you want your quarterback to be too aggressive. What's the evaluation this quarterback? So far? Overall? Just overall, not not this year, just overall. How about we come back with that? Okay, okay, we need we're up against a break. We're going to have the evaluation of this quarterback when we come back

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I love that song. It is a good song. Virginia. Who you plays West Virginia in the last regular season? Ye, you can arrest your starters and well did they could well as well? Well, we have bigger fish to fry. You're trying to get him, depending on we need an upset right on the cusp, I might I might be dead wrong about this, and I use got to lose. I'm usually I think that Oklahoma is the only team that could beat Alabama because of their offense, because of

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time Alabama ever struggles is when they play Oklahoma. That's true. Yeah, But if you try to play Alabama football against Alabama, if you play toe to toe, they'll kill you exactly the other night. Really, And the thing that Oklahoma has is they've got a quarterback who can run the ball on on busted plays, the Shawn Watson like you can do. Why do you think Clemson gave him trouble? Exactly? Shaun Watson should have beat him twice. Yeah, he should have

really beat him twice. Unfortunately, Nick Saban went out and got himself the future number one pick in the draft at quarterback, last thing he needed. So yeah, but thanks to Oklahoma's awful defense, they probably will not get a shot at it because they need help. They need an other Dame or Michigan loss. But a big ten teams is going to be in regardless. Watch Ohio State that that talking college truck. It's probably better than talking. Try

trying to evaluate Dak and we're talking Oklahoma. That's okay. Uh yeah. But the one thing is Michigan has yet to be under the horriball administration to beat Ohio State. So they got to even get that done first. Yeah, they don't get that done. Good good night Michigan. Ever, the other thing is Michigan might be the only team

that can hang with Alabama's offense. Right, can't score enough point another case to have an eighteen tournament exactly, all right, So let's evaluate dak Prescott, the owner, president and general manager, on the radio this morning, said what when he was asked to assess dak Ah, he said he's capable he's completely capable of diagnosing what happened in this game, them stakes that he made, and he's also capable physically of going out and cleaning it up and playing better the

next ballgame. That's what Jerry has seen Dak do in the past, and that's what he expects him to do in the future. And then on the heels of that is when he said that he will be extended. Here's the deal they are with him. He needs to be perfect. Can't make a mistake, thank you, Mickey, because they're not good enough to overcome a mistake. Yeah, Troy Aikman ever throw an interception in the end zone, I don't know, maybe know he eat my Danny White throwing any receptions?

Lent the lot, right, But this guy's got to be perfect for them to function offensively. And he's not a perfect quarterback. No, that's the problem. And to me, and I'm sorry, Mickey, I just cut you off there. I mean, you know, I'm just saying no. I mean it's like, you know, look, even with the interception, what was his quarterback rating? It was almost one hundred. It was almost one hundred. Yeah, right, Yeah, every quarterback doesn't complete every pass. Now,

there's some critical ones. It felt like he was and what was his completion Yeah, he was twenty twenty nine or something like that. Yeah, it was didn't had many many. He was one nineteen point nine. Yeah, Dak was ninety nine. What was his completions? What twenty one of twenty nine? Twenty one of twenty nine. Yeah, so scandages were almost the same. Yeah, with some big plays down the field to the big plays field for twenty eight yards to

the fifteen yard line. Was was it was a great play dime me through thirty six yard or on the second touchdown. I mean he made key throws and they dialed up some They had some great play calls in that game. The quarterback keeper on the RPO I think on the first touchdown run it's a great call. Well, yeah, they and then the Cowboys got caught. Vanderas got blocked

on that play. Yeah, they had a great call because they had they had both ends on the slant and they had that covered for the inside handoff and Jalen got outside and Vanderas tried to get outside and then the tackle Jack Jack Conklin got him enough of him to knock him, and then that gave Marioda the path, but they had a nice call with how they do it. They had crash and scrape to try and make the play, but Marioda was able to. Okay, that shovel pass he

had too was beautiful. I mean he's pulling that ball out when I mean that was that was a great, beautiful play. Nailed Was it Henry or Diana Lewis? I can't remember which they nailed him, but he didn't have the ball all right. In an evaluation of Dak Prescott right now, yeah, after last night's game, Brian, what is your evaluation of the Cowboys offensive line compared to the Titans offensive line right now? Well, I'll tell you what.

Going into the game, that's why I thought Dallas would win because I thought Dallas's offensive line, even with all the changes and stuff with the coaching, you know, I felt like that Dallas was going to be more consistent, you know, being able to run the football and then also passed to set some things up. But you know, it's it's been a struggle for It's been a struggle for them all year. It's been a struggle to be consistent.

They get penalties and things happen to them. And they get you know, they miss blocks, they don't communicate, there's you know, it's there's a lot of things going on with this offensive line. But if I go back to Dak, I think the worst thing that happened to Dak is he had the success he had his first year, because I think we're kind of seeing, not kind of. I believe that we're seeing what Dak Prescott really is. I think Dak Prescott's a good quarterback. I don't think he's

a great quarterback. And Mickey's right, I think he has to be perfect, and I don't think he's perfect. It was the offensive line two years ago as close, no pfect, and exactly everything lined up the worst. In my opinion, the worst thing that happened to Dak Prescott is that he got behind one of the best offensive lines in the league with one of the best young running backs in the league, and he had a slot player that

was tremendous and that and he just wore out. He had guys like Jason Witten out there catching the football for him too. It's I think that was the best thing that happened to him. Yeah, and now the worst Yeah, and we and we look and we look and we say, you know why, but why? But why? We keep asking why? And maybe the why was you know what, though you

caught him, you caught it right, you caught her. And that's but that goes again, goes where scouts go and they say, well, if you've seen it once, you'll see it again. And I think that we I think that we ask a lot of Dak Prescott, and I don't believe that Dak Prescott is always capable of delivering everything that we think he can deliver. There's so much to like about Dak as your starting quarter tremendous. The toughness is incredible, he's the toughest hell. He fights, he'll take

a hit, he leads the huddle, guys follow him. There's so much to like, a lot of intangible stuff. But I've said this many times, like to Brian's point, he's he's part of a large group of quarterbacks in the NFL that need help around them. And he had a damn near perfect supporting cast as a rookie. And it's just a different it's a different dynamic, it's a different group right now. And uh, like you, like Mickey said, he's got to be perfect. He's not a perfect quarterback.

He's gonna mis throws, he's gonna misreads, he's gonna fumbles. Yeah, and it's just a different We've got to stop comparing this to twenty sixteen. It's just a different group around him. And uh, but that being said, and that's what Jerry sees. He still sees a guy that's capable of going out and winning a football game for you, and because he's

seen it and he's done it this year. But I'm still trying to figure out what happened from the Jacksonville game offensively when they put up forty points to now losing two straight games and you're back to just struggling its sustained drives. So I don't know what's happened since then, because is this the best defense they've played at home? Well, but again, this we've seen this on tape. We've seen this Tennessee defense. Big player, I was watching that. Yeah,

I don't think so. Maybe I don't know. I'm just asking. I think Jacksonville. I thought Jacksonville's defense was better. I think that that everything just came together, much like Dak Prescott's first year. Everything came together. They didn't make mistakes. They ran the football, they got out. They they played against the quarterback that was challenged. You know, if if you know Bortles didn't play. If Bortles is another top pick, a very high pick, that it's kind of fumbled around

in this league. Much like Marcus Mariota may may having a similar conversation on talking raiders with Derek Carr. Sure, great offensive line in front of him a couple of years ago, and now they're player already got hurt and they they weren't already extended him for a lot of money. There you go, There you go. I got one question, You got a minute, hurry up. I need to know

what the rule is on offensive lineman downfield on screens? Yes, do they as long as the balls behind I think it's like a four or five yards five yards if it's a screen, Yeah, it's got to be behind the line though, Okay, and then the line judge misses out. At the college rule has always been that there wherever any they could be ten yards downfield strong as the passes behind them, right, Okay, I think they give them

three or four yards or something. Mickey's right. Those guys will travel down they'll be in the safety box before you know it. Yeah, all right, for talking to cowboys. We'll talk at you again tomorrow. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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