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The Talkin' crew discusses new challenges against New York since the teams' Week 1 meeting. Plus, phone calls from fans.

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. On a very brisk, forty three degree morning here in Frisco, Texas. It is time for another edition of Talking Cowboys. Vicky will say, what's the temperature outside? It's forty three inside? It feels like forty three to

you make except that's not raining in here. It's not and it's not raining outside now too. The sky is beginning to clear, and we're finally getting through our bye week blues, and it's almost time to start Giants Week. But it is another day off of the players today, because of course, the Cowboys play Monday night football this week, and so the actual workweek starts on a Thursday. But there's so much to get to here on Talking Cowboys. Sorry I couldn't be here yesterday. I had some issues

with attire on the way in. And five hundred fifty dollars and two tires later, I'm here and we're good all okay, Yes, the cough button is off. This team had all these days off and they need another one. Yeah, what's up with that? When was the last time you had five of the last six days off? That's every day for Mickey, Mickey, Mickey's figure that out, right, Mickey, do you need a CBA the collective bargaining agreement where you can get five out of six days off? I do, okay, okay,

then I'm with you on that. Make you whatever you need help on that, I'm with you, all right, very good? All right, let's get into what did not transpire on Tuesday, because when you left the air three hours before trade deadline time yesterday, things were starting to cook. There were reports out there that things are happening. This could be the busiest trade deadline day in recent memory. Helped Jerry sat on the radio. Anything is possible, anything that helps

fuel the fire. And then NFL network needs some viewers too, and so let's fuel them. Send some tweets out, let's go, let's get on this. And what happened? Nothing, not a lot, nothing here and I keep to lead went earlier in the day. But that was Yeah, that's fun when you can you know, we've seen this though, teams have kind of and I was just going to ask this question, We feel like that teams have a better management of

the cap. It used to be a time when you always were up against the cap and you couldn't make trades and stuff like that. Do you think teams have more cap space now which has allowed them the flexibility to think about making more trades Because we went like say, eight ten years ago, where we weren't making any trade, I mean from the start of the season until the trade deadline, and I think there's been like a hundred trades. Yeah, I just kind of feel like player trades. Teams have

more space and more flexibility to do that. Plus teams are also just given up on guys, you know. I mean they're just saying, okay, fine, if you you know you want this guy, sure. I mean, we thought he was a building block piece two three years ago, but he obviously he's not. So it started to look like speaking of Baseball Game seven at night, there there are more firesale type activity you're seeing from teams now. The Jets didn't trade everybody, but there was talk that, look,

they're out of it, they're rebuilding. They might be looking to move some guys, and yeah, Brian's I was asking Mickey yesterday, why why is there more movement? Why? Why do you think, so, Ryan, that could be it rookie salary tracks aren't as massive as they used to be. Maybe they're just more movable. I don't know you had you had another thought, Mick, right, Yeah. I think that's

the way teams have been structuring contracts. The signing bonuses haven't been as high, and they've been putting roster bonuses in there instead that are payable year by year by year. And if those aren't guaranteed like the signing bonuses, then trading a player's contract is more feasible because when you trade a guy, the pro ration that's left over on

the signing bonus immediately escalates into your salary cap. So the signing bonuses now have been lower and the roster bonuses have been higher, and so now trading a guy isn't as punitive against the salary cap as it had been previously. And this has been the structure of contracts these last two years. That's where they've gone to. So I think that has a lot to do with it, because if you trade a player with three years left on his contract and say each of those years the

peroration is five million dollars. Immediately you get fifteen million dollars sent in to your salary cap. But now with the way they do it with roster bonus, it's a different story. So I think it makes it easier to pull off trades and couple that with a healthy league where you know, the salary cap is every year it's going up by at least ten million dollars every year. Kind of feel like though that teams, like, you know,

trades or draft picks have always been like currency. Though, oh yeah, do you still do you feel like though that teams are kind of looking at that and saying, wait a minute, now, if we can get a known commodity right now that these picks, you know, these picks aren't. I mean, I understand using it as to get the picks, but do you think teams are more willing to part with you know, just talking about this organization, the fact that they were willing to part with potentially another first

round pick in order to get a player. So do you feel like though that, hey, we understand what this player is, we would rather have this player much like what they did with the Maari Cooper last year. That's where I was going. I think the age of the player has a lot to do whether this team is going to give up a first round pick. Yeah, I think it's case by case, right, because they looked at Amari and they said, well, he's been in the league a few years, but he's and hasn't reached his prime yet.

And okay, if we went and drafted a receiver who's twenty one or twenty two, okay, that's not much younger, and we know exactly what this young guy is like you said, Yeah, and since compensatory picks are tradeable too, that helps as far as more things that you can

throw at him in a trade. Sure, that helps U facilitate a trade, all right, which takes us to you know what I was gonna say, what Rob said about the rookie salaries with the lower base salaries, and we can take an instant from yesterday, am I it's okay for me to say his name? Yeah? I think so. I mean, okay, yeah, going and Getty Boddy in trouble.

I think we're past that. Jamal Adams base salaries for this year with seven hundred and thirty five thousand, So that's what you inherit base salary for next year was going to be seven hundred six, six hundred and forty five this year, seven hundred and thirty five next year, and then you would have the ability to put the fifth year option on them also, so you would have two and a half seasons of control for very little money.

So with the rookie salaries, the way they're structuring those contracts, you're just trading for basically a minimum wage salary. So that makes it more feasible to make the trade. Now what you give up is another story. But you know, Brian's right, you know, with the draft picks, if you get a known commodity and you're sitting there going, well, how am I doing in the draft? Yeah? You know, un least you've got a may on what this guy has done previously. See okay, just to talk about the

trade deadline and not so much about the Cowboys. Well, look, with the stubbornness of the Redskins did for them, I mean they could have got they could have held Cleveland up for a first round pick for Trent Williams, and Trent Williams has passed. What Mickey was talking about. I mean, he is a veteran player who has a pretty significant contract. But you know, the Redskins said, no, we're gonna be

stubborn here and all that. And to me, that's where I don't quite understand organizations if you're willing to you know, if a player is just adamant, and this day and age, a player can come out and say I'm adam and I'm not playing for you. Look what happened with the guy go into the Rams, right, I mean, you know Ramsey, Ramsey back injury, birth of a child. Well, you know, he was just everything. It was every week there was

something different, you know. And for them to get two first round picks for somebody that didn't want to want to be there, to me, that's that's smart. Now can they do something with it. We've seen Cleveland in the past take a bunch of picks and stuff like that and not do anything to really help their team. You

have to be able to draft well. But I you know, to me, I don't I don't understand how teams just sit there and say we're just gonna hold on to this player unless they just do not want to set presidents of you know, of we're just not going to have every player that's gonna bitch and moan get walk his way out or trade his way out her or talk his way out of it. Yeah, because the line starts outside the door. Yeah, once you do one, and it's like, oh, well, I'd like to do it too.

And you see it more in the NBA because there's a bigger gap between the halves and the have nots, Like teams are willing to just start over because we're not anywhere close to a title contention. This guy doesn't want to be here. We'll get some draft picks and we'll continue to rebuild. In the NFL, I mean, you've got more of an opportunity a year to year if you want to hang onto a guy San Francisco, to just hand there and we might be a better team

next year at more favorable schedule whatever. Which well, and the Redskins knew Trent Williams was over a barrel because he needed to show up if he wasn't gonna get a year. Yeah, but he's not gonna play. Yeah, he may not play, but yeah, I mean so where the Redskins there? We see, But that's the whole thing. The Redskins are not getting the players as let's see, it's an hour, I mean, and at one o'clock we'll see if you practices, he's not you know, think so now

why not? I thought that there's a report that he was going to report right now. But I'm interested, I'm I'm following up. He's just showed up to because not to lose that year, and he's not. In fact, I think I saw a report earlier that he's not playing in a practice or not playing to play well. But then they'll just put him on reason and it's gonna it's just the start of the story. Really. Yeah, see, Okay,

if he refuses then too. That's another there's my argument about my argument, there's my once again belief of what Bruce Allen is doing in that team. You know, I mean, if they're gonna have a new coach, you know, why not go into this with you know, who knows what Cleveland's record's going to be? Ill I would tell you know, if I have a player that's not you know, has no intention of playing with me at all, then I mean, I'm the same way. But I want to just kind

of tie it into what Dallas. I mean, Dallas was you know, Dallas was committed to moving another first round pick. Yeah, so I'm I'm okay with that if that's if that's what it takes to try and make your team a little bit better, you know, to go out and get a big time player by all means, do what you have to do. Because it paid off last year, Sure it did, and they're right firmly in the mix here

this year. Yeah, not next year. So yeah, and there's a player like Nicky's talking about control for three years and then you know, two years good money and then and then a fifth year option and then the possibility of extending him beyond that, what if you suffer a catastrophic injury that you need that first round pick the

next year. Well, when they made the Cooper trade last year, I think Stephen and Jerry said that, you know, I don't really see us doing this, making this a habit, because they to Brian's point, they do value those picks and they've been very been I have it though, Well they've been very successful making those picks too, So I understand that line of thinking. But you know, you're if you try to go I'm gonna asked this the catastrophic injury.

What do we ask go ask Dave Campbell when he loses Troy Aikman and they don't have the first round pick, there's no question to get Yeah, nicky, but we were terrible at our Joe, No, I know, but that doesn't matter. We didn't do a good job then, but it doesn't matter. You didn't have a first round pick. We didn't have money have a first round pick when we were terrible.

We were terrible at our jobs. So I never know what's gonna come up though in the next nine weeks, and the issue there was given up the two first round picks. Yeah, because your first round pick could have bone out of knee too, it had you lost another player the guy brought his knee. We traded for right what I mean, he blew, but the first round pick could have also, ye, and I gave up second first round pick. I mean same with Roy Williams. It was

the eighteenth pick and then the seventh overall pick. That's that's bad football right there. That's bad football. What you love about the Cooper trade though last year, I know it's panned out. It's hindsight, but at the time, what was the glaring need. We probably would have been their number one pick, most likely a wide receiver wide receiver, and it helped you evaluate your young quarterback. Now you can love you just think a habit of doing that,

because some point it's gonna bite you. I mean is it would would a strong safety turn your season around the way the wide receiver did. Mickey, I would go on record, and I'll do it right now because I was on with Nat and them yesterday. I would have compared this too. And this is just me, Mickey, this is just me. I would have compared that this going out and getting a defensive player like this caliber of a player to what you did offensively with Amari Cooper

because I'm banking on. I'm banking on to help my defense from years to come. I feel good about my inside linebackers Smith and vander esh and so now I'm gonna try and put somebody behind them. I think all really good defenses are really good up the middle. I just think that good defensive teams Mickey always talks about playing the run, which is exactly right. If you have that ability to kind of control things in the middle, it makes your defense even that much better. And I

would have taken a chance. I would have taken that chance with moving A one to say, Okay, I'm going to go get a guy that's going to help me in the middle, but also solidify what's going on with as part of vander esh and Smith, and then I'll try and fix, you know, I'll try and fix what's going on at defensive tackle. So maybe without a first round pick, I can't fix what Mickey wants me to do at defensive tackle. But I understand his point. I do understand this point. I was comparing it though to

this would be the defensive move of Amari Cooper. That's how I was That's how I do and I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I'm just saying that getting that player wouldn't turn four and three into eight and one on the second half. It would not have that impact. Is it just turned three and five into seven and one? Is it the Is it the position, Mickey, or is

it the player? That's all I think. The position would not have that big of an impact, even if you had the best player in the league at that position. I just my point, yeah, and that's a fair point. The thing I saw was when the Jets played the Cowboys who affected the game on the final play. Yeah, that that's all. That's That's what I'm based in my but and it's it, you know, where you got to get a two point conversion and who they sent They sent him on a blitz and then what happened the

next two weeks? They did not win, right, Yeah, I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that their roster is not very good to begin with, and the shame on the Cowboys for losing that game, And you've pointed that out several times and rightfully. So I'm just saying though, on that particular player, and that's why I tied him into vander esh and Smith and those guys, just to try and solidify you know, maybe maybe you maybe he makes that game changing play that

we saw him making the Jets game. Mickey's right, the Jets aren't good. They lose games, They have lost games. I don't think you could pin that all on on Jamal Adams. I think you could could could pin it on a front office that was even considering about moving him. Well, and the way I would look at it too, is the fact that you had two more years of control for him. I mean yeah, I think he'd make an

impact this year. I don't know that it would have been the same impact like what Mickey's saying this year. That's fair to have it him going forward as a cornerstone of that defense and maybe first career who knows. Yeah, you know he's from here, all right. So so I

would have given up a first round pick. I would have done the menk of Fitzpatrick deal, which was Dolphins gave the Steelers Fitzpatrick and I think it was a fifth and a six, six, and in return, the Steelers gave up a first, a fourth, and a seventh, okay, which is basically that that third day there's third day picks. They're basically a wash, a fourth and a seventh or a fifth and a sixth. Who cares, Yeah, you just always just off your practice squad to Detroit, right, Yeah, exactly, ye, Mike.

And and on one of the big differences. Fitzpatrick was a draft pick last year, eleventh pick of the draft last year. Adams was the sixth pick the year before. So yeah, I mean you got even more control with Fitzpatrick. Now, Mickey's not wrong, because you do need somebody in that room. It's going to say, okay, is is he going to be that difference maker to counteract some guy like me coming in there and saying, hey, we got to do this steal, don't we don't we have to do the steal.

Let me quickly add the Jets were not going to take that deal either, obviously, No. And I don't think they really wanted to trade, right. It didn't sound like they were. Now, if I was trading that for Darren Woodson, then I'd do it. See, And I think that's a great I think that is a great example. I think Jamal Adams is Darren Woodson. He can't cover in the slot. I don't even think. No. I think, not not so much how he plays, but his impact. He impacts the game.

Different fact that Darren Woodson makes to me, to me that where he can coverage, Darren Woodson was a slot player, no question about that. Darren Woodson at Arizona State was a two hundred and twelve pound linebacker that played his ass off. I mean, what a great player he was, and what a great player in the NFL he was,

There's no question about that. I think where you you get similarities is the physicality which they played the tackling ability which they played, the leadership that which the way they play. You know, I think there's similarities there. I think you're talking about a rare player. You know, there's the rare players that played in this league. Gets safety

ed Reid. You would have never if we all sat down and watched ed Reid's college tape together at Miami, you would have said, what, he's a Hall of Fame player. I don't. I don't see this. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I had to point I was responsible for pointing out where the players were with a red with a laser, and Jerry would go where is he? And I would three feet off the right of the screen. I would point the dot there because he was never in the screen. So yeah, you know,

I think there's evaluations of these guys. There's things, there's things that Darren Woodson could do that nobody else could do. Right, So I think that's a comparison in itself. That's kind of a man You're comparing a guy that I think is rare to a guy who I think has some rare ability, you know, And Mickey's right, I mean, you know, if you're if you're training if you're giving up a

first round pick for Darren Woodson. Absolutely, absolutely. It's just interesting because they just haven't invested a ton in that position for years. I mean, they had every guy on the board at safety that you could have drafted in this draft, with the exception of Abraham the kid from Mississippi State who went to the Oakland Raiders in the end of the first round, and so they had every opportunity to draft, uh, you know, all those guys, and

they they didn't. They drafted Tristan Hill, you know, it was their guy. So uh, either there is a there's a a thought about safeties. But again, if it's if they were willing to trade for a first for this type of a player, maybe I'm wrong making that Annaly. Maybe maybe that observation. Yeah, I don't it's probably too generalized to say, oh, they don't value that position. That's not I mean, it's got to be a case by

case thing. I just said, they haven't spent high draft picks there and they haven't spent a lot of money there in general. The last few years. They found Xavier Woods in the sixth round and turned out to be a nice you have to kick named Tony Dixon in the second round from Alabama. Two. Yeah. Yeah, he was right here at the start of yea kind you're sitting here, you know, I think he works for Freed to Lay, Okay, PepsiCo, Freed to Lay. I talked to him, saw him. Uh yeah.

You know. There's there's time where you just think, okay, spend a pick on this, spend a pick on this, and those guys don't work out. And maybe again, I think this was if they were going after this guy, it was going to be about they felt like that he was a young enough guy the contract control, and then also too that he is he is a good enough player that he could have made a difference in the secondary. All right, we need to take a break and we're going to take your phone calls here on

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Club Championship presented by Spire. That is November ninth, Tostitos Championship plazas the Cowboys return home to play the Minnesota Vika. A dramatic pause Like Mickey, I had the dramatic pause because it said after the event, I was planning to go to the next portion of the Senates and then it said after the event festivities. I think it was a pregnant pause, yes, dramatic. I asked Mick if he was in that top two ranking for Madden. He said, no,

not this year, maybe next year. Have you played Madden? No? Have you? Have you played Madden? Occasional? Going on here occasionally. I just love the idea of you know, can you imagine if Madden would have come along when I was in college, I would have never got a job. I would have been playing Madden NonStop. Yeah, but you probably would have earned a scholarship. That's right. That's just now it's going to be an NCA sport. Yea. And maybe and maybe they can pay those guys too. They're getting

ready to that's right, to blow the entire sea. That's right. If Earl Thomas had was in the same boat that Jamal Adams is right now in his contract, at that point in his career, two years left, at his age whatever. Okay, would you what would you have given up for Earl Thomas? Talking about safety's impacts? Safety? Okay, So Earl Thomas is in his seconds, his third years, third year, so he would,

and he would have two years left control left. Yeah. Man, see, because I'm gonna get called an lsu homer here because I think that Adams is a better was a better player in college. I really do. So I'm gonna get called lsu homer there. Now they're different players. There are different players, and one of them. I mean they are. But and I bring that up because Chris Richard is we got a field trip going. Yes, we do. Distractable player over here, A not very distracts right there for you.

But look at the TV screen there can the people that are listening and watching, there is a field trip coming through behind the curtains over there. I would you're a distractable player, Mickey. You know what I think. I think he's still with Earl Thomas. I think you absolutely have to consider giving a one. Absolutely Earl Thomas is a free safety, I'd do it. Yeah, Okay, there you go. Not a strong So that was that's the difference. It's the free safety over the strong safety. Yes, okay, are

you good? The value of the position, I mean so wait okay, now now now I get some clarification here. All right, let's go. So a free safety, you if if if Adams was a free safety, you would have given that. I would have considered it a lot stronger than a strong safety who I cannot put in the slot and help out in Nickel's situations covering somebody because he's not a cover guy. Is this like our argument

about guards. I was getting ready to point that out until I remembered they used a first up Zach Martina. I just wondered, No, I mean, and I understand what you're saying, Mickey, but I mean I and that's a rare move rights. And that's the guard that's in the first round. That's my point when we talk about, okay, a safety or a guard or whatever, it's the player who's the player that's that's what kind of impact is

that player have. That's kind of where I've I've that's where I've always felt like because the argument we had about paying Zeke and people were saying, you don't pay a running back, and I felt everybody on this panel made a really passionate plea for why you do, Because it's about the player. Yeah, it's not about the SS behind his name or the FB or the you know WR, It's not about that. It's about to me. It's about can the player is as one of the eleven? Can

he be a difference mate? But let's let's remember if it had come down to a choice between Ryan Shazier and Zach Martin, they would have taken Shazier. That was that draft. That is very true. They didn't take Manzel's that was very grateful. Yeah, but that so the linebacker or a guard. They would have taken the linebacker. Yeah, well because why because of the position or because they

was rated higher? He was rated higher, one that's hit higher. Yeah, and I was spot I was going to shift the conversation to, Okay, well do we know draft show talk to I know it's early man ahead, Do we know what this team's still be there? Do we know what this team's composition would be at this point? Is it? Is it glaring? And they they've got a lot of

prospective free agents coming up next year? I don't think we know that, And it really doesn't matter because it comes down to ultimately, who's the best player that's available to them wherever they pick next April? Is there a strange team? They're two best players are probably positions you would not draft a high A guard and a running back. I'd agree pound for pound, those are your two best players. Well think about this, so your wide receivers in there,

of course, but I mean receiver. Let me get you know, what if what if you lose two cornerbacks? Would you take a safety over a cornerback? Byron Jones is going to be a free agent. Anthony Brown's going to be a free That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of decisions. My point is from a from a need standpoint, because we're talking about what's their biggest need. It could be cornerback, right, it depending on what you just lost the guy. Yeah,

how well do we all feel about Jordan Lewis playing Lewis? Yeah, I can change your mind after this year. Yeah, Jordan Lewis can maybe change your mind in nine games? Okay maybe? Then who's your third you don't have one? Well, this is this is where yeah, and you don't have a you know in Byron Jones, Jordan Lewis going to step into his shoes. I don't know. Okay, what position would you draft first? Then? Is that what you're trying to say?

I mean, we were talking about a glaring need for Yeah, next year going out there, I just throw out cornerback. So what if you need a cornerback and you used your first on a safety? My starting cornerback, Yeah, my starting cornerback, My left starting cornerback is a is a two. My my nickel corner was a sixth? Is that brown six had to perdue? Yeah? Right right? And then his backup it was a third out of Michigan, right correct? All right, kind of working that way. But here's are

the starters a first? Yeah? My but my starter who was moved from safety to corner that's corner to safety to corner. Yeah. Yeah. Do you trust them maybe to address that position if need be beyond the first round? You think they can do? I mean I don't. I haven't looked in Okay, I don't class. Is Tristan Hill scaring me? Now? Is Tristan Hill scaring me? So? What? Yeah? I mean you got Bennett for two years? Yeah if

you want, if you want him seven million next year? Yeah, because Malak Collins is a free agent, I mean I want to I want to get I want to give Will McClay and those guys a lot of credit for drafting, because this roster is pretty good. The announce of tackle or a safety. Three techniques. Well, they told you last year they carried damn about nothing about that safety because at fifty eight they had every one of them on the board and they took a defensive tackle easier to

get a defensive tackle at fifty eight. That can going to be a starter for you or I don't think they liked any of those safeties. Yeah, which is you know, and that's that's you know that they thought. By the way, they got that kid Jones from Green Bay on the practice squad, Josh Jones, Josh Jones's he started games in Green Bay. I finally recognized who he is. Did you push it out away at the salad bar or some

try to get that clam chowder here? And I don't know that I've seen him in the locker and sitting at his locker. Yeah, but they they haven't, they haven't thought about even you know, he's and they and they can't get they can't get the kid from A and M on the field. And I don't think they're going to get the kid on the field of May and Am. A matter of fact, I think that they would go U. They would go with the Thompson before they'd go with the A and M. Kid. We had the same answer

there in the millback today. It's based on experience and check out the milback. Yeah, yeah, Thompson showed them something when Xavier was out. Yeah, Wilson, Wilson's I don't think. I don't think we'll see Wilson and until we get to Oxnard in twenty twenty, you know, unless there's an injury. Hey, where are the Cowboys going this weekend? New Jersey, New Jersey. It's close to New York. Let's go to James in New York. Okay, I'm talking Cowboys. Where he's going Bill

in New York. That stated might as well be in Texas. It's such a pain to get to her. Oh no, but you know it's a lot easier. It's just it's just such a different You guys have been there terrible, you know, thank thank God recently. Yeah, James, go ahead. Yeah, I had two things. When one kind you guys kind of touched on is bab Jamal Addison over here. We got to talk about it. You know, I agree. I mean he's not a cover safety, he's not palame at Read or Earl Thomas, So I mean it will help

out in the run game. But to me, the issue is more of like the back end, which leads me, you know, my second questions kind of a schematic question. I mean, broad us gonna help out with this. I'll try. You know, during the you know, the Jet game when they got beat on the Robbie Anderson touchdown and a similar play was run by Nelson Agilore even though it

wasn't caught. U My question is, have they changed or looked or you know, done something in practice to not put Jeff Heath in that position, because it seems to me, I don't know why they do this. He's he makes his plays in the box. We don't agree with that.

You know, he put around the line of scrimmage, you know, um, and seems like Woods, who actually had a pick in that game, should be the you know, you know, I wouldn't call him a ball hopping safety, but he played them pass a little bit better had they worked on that, because in this game, you know, you're going against Golden Tape and Slayton and you know Vernon, you know, a tight end. You know, Giants got a pretty good passing game, and you know Daniel Jones, although the rookie can throw

the ball. You know. That really worries me because teams are going to exploit that until they figure out a way to stop that. And I can't figure out why they would do that. The heat, Yeah, you gotta answer that with Mickey. Well, I know what they did on that play, and they were both they they they flip flop spots. Yeah, you know they were. Woods was back, Heath was close. And then when the when they saw where the running back went, Woods went and got him

and Heath backed up. And I still would like to know what happened because Jordan Lewis was on the slot receiver and then he'd let him go. Yeah, and he kind of has Heath said, whoa, I got a guy running wide open down, Yeah, and all you gotta do is take two steps. And you saw what happened. Yeah. And the other thing that happened on that play when they were in that type of formation, a Woozier should

have backed off instead of being close in man coverage. Right, So there was a couple of things that went wrong on there. But unfortunately for Jeff Heath, he's the one chasing the ball after Woozier gets beat and it looks like well, it's his fault. Yeah, you know, let's him, that's the easy he's the whipping boy. Yeah, I am, and I would rather see Woods back there. Yeah. I

think that I think that we all would. I think that they sometimes because of what they do scheme while they try and create matchups where Okay, we're gonna match you with this guy with this guy, with this guy with this guy, and you know, Jeff Heath probably didn't fit into with the way that the Jets, you know, they had their tied end covered, you know, with somebody else. So okay, let's drop Heath. Let's give them a different look there, and again it bit him in the rear. Uh.

Mickey's explanation was absolutely right. I do agree with James's call, right is that James, I do agree with him about Golden Tate, and I do agree with him about you know, those receivers. This Darius Slayton, I think that I think you also have to really consider this Daniel Jones move. I think has been really really good for the Giants. I know it hasn't translated into wins, but you're in a very similar situation to where you were with the

Jets game. Young quarterback not afraid to throw the football, can throw it down the field has capable receivers, not big time receivers, But I would worry about the jet the Giants offensively, especially with that running back. Defensively, they haven't done anything different. That's still going to be a problem for them. But yeah, this game kid very well. Hinge on how well Daniel Jones, and then how well they're able to cover golden tap and then also Daris

Slayton on those passes down the field. Let's get into more of that in a moment. There's another field trip coming through and make he's getting distracted. I wanted to see him try to do a read with a field trip and looking at him from outside the zoo here. I don't have reads. They all come off the top of back more in a moment. It can be hard to find the right resource for learning about important financial matters.

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get hired to write their scripture. He didn't have to, boy, he didn't have talking points on that one. And he paused for two seconds there, like the hell he's going to say? But I was getting ready to laugh before I did. Now that you know that, Mickey just off the top of his head. It's such a great thing. Uh huh. Yeah, let's go to Mike and Iowa here on talking Cowboys. Hello Mike, Yeah, Hi, how's it going? Hi, Mike? Good?

Hey Micky. I'll make it quick. But I wanted you to know that, Uh, it's been a while since I went through my first opening game. First game, I made it through the Dallas Me and my daughter made it to the Dallas game. Sure, and that was my bucket list and I and I was up for four days and I had a really good time. I just wanted you to know that finally made us there and stuff. Mickey, way to go. But but here's my here's my questions, uh,

my two questions. My first question you were bringing up about Jordan Lewis, do you think Jordan Lewis can cover Edelman, the wide receiver on the Patriots? And my second question is why isn't a Givon Austen in the slot like Beasley was? Because I believe that Devon Austen could be open. It was a quickness and speed and everything else. I'll hang up and lift and see what you guys say. But I have a good day, Thank you, all right, Mike Jordan Lewis versus Julian Edelman. Mick looks puzzled by

these questions. I was puzzled. Yes, um, yeah, that'll that'll be a nice matro punk. The thing about with Edelman is you have to deal with that initial burst, that quickness right off the line, because where he's going to beat you as the first two or three steps, and then once he beat you on the first two or three steps, he's going to carry you through trash and all that stuff. So to cover a guy like that, you how I think you have to get right on top of him. You have to be physical with him.

Jordan Lewis can do. Jordan Lewis is very competitive too. I would I give me the most competitive owner I've got and put him on Edelman because Edelman is going to frustrate you the way he plays. He might have ten targets, he might make seven catches. But the thing about him is you have to be physical with him. You have to be able to kind of knock him around, stay with him, don't get frustrated when he's running those routes on him because he is one of the best

to ever play this game from that position and Tavon Austin. Oh, he meant. Tavon Austin got Randall Cobb man in the slot most of the time. I'll say it. Randall Cobb played his ass off against the New York Giants the last time in Week one. You go back and watch the game, remember the play. He caught the ball in the flat and stiff armed their cornerback. Who was at it was Hamilton, Antonio. Hamilton stiff armed that guy like four or five yards short from the sticks and was

able to get the first down. The game was kind of like kind of kind of struggling along for the Cowboys are down seven nothing, and then he caught a ball in the middle of the field that was behind him. They got a first down, kind of got the offense going, you know, on the second possession of the game. So I feel like though that to me, Austin, he's not the same. He's not the reliability, that's the rafty guy inside.

He's more a top end speed. On the album, Cole Beasley has spent his lifetime is NFL lifetime perfecting the craft of yeah, running those right little option routes, a little quick routes. Yeah, and now if Tavan has been his entire career working on that. He could do that too, but he hasn't credit Beasley for being it for mastering that. Yeah, absolutely, you know, and Tavan does other stuff. So yeah, to answer this question, can do no problem playing Jordan Lewis on.

But like I said, there's what three games before they even happened. We'll see it in a few weeks. Yeah, Giants Minnesota Detroit and that one. So yeah, four weeks you'll see that. You'll see that matchup. All right. That does it for talking boys For this, Wins did a long ready said we will talk at you again tomorrow after a pregnant pause, sold a lot of product. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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