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This is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys swoy No. Your hosts Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought It, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips. Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. We have another exciting episode of Talking Cowboys for you guys today. Of course, Mickey, Rob Brian will be breaking it all down as the Cowboys get ready to take on the Washington Redskins this

Sunday for their second divisional opponent. So it's very exciting. Brian, how you doing in that? Uh that nice vest you're sporting? Yeah? Is that from the Cowboys Pro Shot? Absolutely? Cowboys Pro Shot makes you go online to get one all day, all day, getting paid to advertise or no, I'd just like to like the model, or no I'm a bad model. You're gonna need it tomorrow. Yeah, I heard it gonna

be little bit. It was a little chiliest morning walking them. Sorry, I didn't mean like going down weather man, let's weather it up? Yeah, going downhill tomorrow? Yes, good time. How do you not know that? You of all people? Now I heard did you check the weather again for Washington. I did, what does it look like? One hundred percent chance of rain? Like Taylor told you that yesterday, didn't you know, hasn't changed that, but one hundred percent chance.

So what are you gonna be wearing. I'm gonna have to bring some trench coat that repels water. What are you gonna wear? I don't know yet. A pregame show. You gotta stand out. I don't have down there. You know, I choose to go down? Do you choose that? We'll figure it out, Doctor Jerry Madelin about that, because I'm sure whatever you wear in the rain is not It'll be like the hat. Looking, what was that game you brought the bad umbrella? Didn't you have a bad umbrella?

Was a Buffalo Miami? Probably Buffalo was just bad. Miami bad? But yeah, Miami was bad. Miami. Miami was like a hurricane. R You and I were on the field and you looked over that, You looked over the mabey, looked over the sta hands and goes, we need to get out of here. Yeah, and then and then it let it, let it let go. For sure. Hey it's Washington, DC. You wear trench coat. Trench coat, I'll wear my trench coat.

We could be matching and take a picture that idea. Yeah, well that's exciting for two new kickers for each team. You have to go into that kind of weather and it's never easy to kick outside. But Mike Nugent will have the additional challenge of kicking in the rain. So with a wet ball, yes, wet ball. How do you do you guys throw throw a wet football? Well do you snap a wet thigh? You know? I didn't like it and not war Oh yeah, we used to. We used to take um, We used to take those like

five gallon buckets, those plastic buckets. If you've ever worked in the restaurant industry, you know they like they hold yeah, like the paint bucket, Yeah, paint bucket thing. But restaurants they used to put slaw or taste out whatever these big buckets and we used to stand there and they dip the ball in the water and then hand it

to you and you'd snap it. And that's but you know in the NFL nowadays, because the ball, you know, the various they could keep the kicking ball dry because they don't play those those aren't only used for uh, you know, for for that specific time of the game, so the other balls get rotated through. But yeah, I was surprised it was a good question. I thought that they asked, you know, yeah, because we've seen a little

bit if you remember the Giants game earlier. Shit, it was played at at and T, and I thought that Dak had some problems with sweaty with some sweat hand. If that's it's a bad way of saying m Yeah, but he was really he was overlea inspiring and and you know, the ball was shaking on him a little bit. It was moving on him, you know, And I was wondering if it was he was having problems with his hand being wet. But Dak's got big hands and so

he you know, he could probably handle it. But you know, Garrett told the story this morning about aikman, you know, Aikman with the big hands. Maybe a psychological thing with him not handling the weather very well. Yeah, Jason kind of treated that question like he did the altitude Denver week. Yeah, like you know what, it's a mindset thing. Don't don't worry. Did he say be your best regardless of circumstances, he yeaid,

he said, control what you can control. In so many words. Yes, he did for practice, big baby, and he could snap the ball and it'll be soggy when it gets to the quarterback. Oh but yeah, who sweat a lot. Yeah, I had to have him wear a towel. Yeah, might be the only center that had to wear a towel. Troy had to go up and wipe his hands off, pipe his hands off, and then Derek would take the towel and wipe between his legs. Okay, because he sweats

so much. Thank you. That's in depth reporting. You getting on. Don't get that anywhere else. You don't your pants off. There's some there's some there's some centers that do change pants at halftime. Yeah, because quarterbacks it is. But in this game, yeah, if it turns into just something to keep an eye on, both both teams are going to have to deal with it. The grass field looks it's like it's in really good shape. So, like you say, late in the year, we've gone to that place and

it's been a mess. So now if it's one hundred percent chance to reign, at least the grass field will be okay that regard, But yeah, it's gonna be tough for both teams. To have to deal with that. The one team that running football travels wherever you go. The running if you can run the football, that travels. So we'll see. And you know, the officials can change out the balls quickly, but if you go no huddle, you

got no shot to do that, no shot. Yeah. So because they can bring in the ball boy on the sideline, can keep them in a pouch and then you can change them out. It used to be where you had to worry about the other team with their ballboys. But yeah, you know, Adam pacifica for the Cowboys actually is part of of the you know here hees he does contracts, but during the game day he works as a ball boy on the road to help, you know, facilitate it. So you got Diana Dallas Cowboys analyst and then bank

robbers stopper. Whatever you have to do, do what you have to do. Jeff Heath knows that very well. Yeah, mild mannered scout by day. Yeah, stop bank robbers during the day. Amazing. Yes, So it was a fairly comforting feeling for the Dallas Cowboys as they got their practice support from yesterday. And the Dallas Cowboys only had six members of their team on it of course, four Dnps, Cheeto, Dan Bailey, Tyron Smith, and then a surprising new one

Kyle Wilbur his knee. Did you see his knee, guys yesterday in the locker room, No, I did not see that. He was walking pretty slow going through gingerly. Yeah, very gingerly. And so Garrett of course said Tyron will be back at practice today with that veteran Wednesday, but Kyle Wilbur would be limited, limited, limited, And surprisingly, even though he said Sean Lee was going to be limited yesterday, he

was actually full right. Good sign for him. They were going to start him out limited, see what he could do. Wound up having a full practice. Make of course Sean Lee once he got out there with a helmet on and dad, he's not gonna think he was going to walk off. No, this is it's now. I know we've got now ten straight games. Yeah, but this is this game is and to me, you know, all games there must win, but this is a game that Sean Lee he's you know, he's You've got to get something going here,

you know. They they've got to find a way. They gave away two games, felt like they got a game back last week against forty nine ers. I gotta put some things together, take advantage of some situations, you know, find a way to win this game. Kansas City has lost a couple of games, Atlanta has had their share of troubles. Maybe get something going roll wise. You know. He actually spoke exactly to that after the game the other day. Yeah, defense specifically that most of the guys

are getting healthy. He's back, They've got some of these dbs back. Hitchens is bad, Hitchens is back, still waiting on cheeto, David Irving's back. I never really had cheeto, No, they never. So that's fair. I mean there is there is healthy and you know, have everybody on board as they've had all season. Yeah, so now let's see it. Yeah yeah. Well on the other hand, yeah this, Yeah, Mickey just destroyed the Washington Redskins practice report because it

was a lot more guys. We almost needed page two. Yep, okay, walk us through. So Harvey there, Mickey, yes, thank you. It wouldn't buy everybody. Yeah, old people again, people experienced people. Every time. You're gonna have to learn that, I would you will learn in it about forty years by this. It's a long time to go Okay, Yeah, she's got a long time to learn. So Taylor hosting the show

at sixty. Yeah, really she might. She'll get it at some point, yeah, will I counted up thirteen guys that were limited or did not practice, and it was an estimation for the Redskins because they had so many people hurt on a short week playing Monday, they decided not to practice on Wednesday, but so they gave an estimation as if we had practice, this is how these guys would have been listed. So thirteen guys limited or did not practice. Of the thirteen, six were DMPEDE. So we'll

see what happens today. The most significant has been the offensive line. Yes, yes, four fifths of their offensive line was Dnpede. That included Trent Williams, who's contemplating knee surgery, so he's trying to play through it. He needs it, and he's not sure if he's hurting the team by trying to play through it. Their other tackle, Moses Morgan, has two sprained ankles. I think they listed him as limited. Brian Shareff he dnpede second degree sprain of his mcluh center.

Spencer Long Dnpede. It says knee knee, so that must mean he has two knees. Uh, And then they had backups that were unable to practice, uh tie and SICKI he's from Arling and by the way, he did not know that. As a matter of fact, he came through. I was trying to find out how to pronounce the last name because very difficultly spelled. He's out three to six weeks. He had surgery to repair a torn core bustle.

So he's their immediate backup tackle. Um. But yeah, he's from from from Arlington and he played in Arena Football League before he got a shot at the NFL, so kind of a long ways for him. So and they had another backup guard, Tyler Catalina, uh limited with a concussion. Yeah, so they bang up on that office. So yesterday I think we talked about it when Jay Gruden was asked about, you know, his offensive line, who's available, and he goes, that's a great question because he didn't know. And that's

one of the reasons why he didn't know. And we spoke yesterday about Jonathan Allen, their first round draft choice. He's on ir with a fractured bone in his foot. And I've I missed this one Phil Taylor, who was going to be their nose tackles on IR and Taylor mentioned their kicker, Dustin Hopkins. He's on injured reserve, so they've got some problems now. They think Josh Norman's going to be back. He's been out a couple of weeks

with fractured ribs, which is not easy. Uh. And then they had a safety deschaser, Everett Hamstring limited and I believe the other safety actually Brilon was full for a change, but he's been but he's been. He suited up Monday nine. So they're banged up all over this roster. Well, can you cut your breath after saying all those times I'm worn out? It should be worn out because they will be playing with a backup kicker. You're right. I think they signed Justin Rose from Texas. Made all his extra

points from Highland Park. He is from Highland Park and had the swoopiest frat hair that I've ever seen. Made all his extra points and kicked a twenty seven yard field goal, so he's he's at least gone out there and showing twenty seven yards. Yeah, Southern swoop. Oh yeah. His was the infamous headshot that went around for a little bit for Texas. Is that the Cutler cut? Yeah, exactly similar. And you know what I'm talking about, right, Yeah, you would. I was like in college thirty years very

prominent with them. Yeah, it was very prominent throughout the SEC. Did you have one? I didn't? Oh, okay, yeah yeah so but twenty seven yards okay, Well he made it. You know, anything you get out of your backup kicker, it's gravy. Yeah, he got to going to ran on this guy. Thanks. You know, I didn't like the picture, no, but you know I did find this out about Nugent. I was looking up just different things about him and

kind of his interesting background. Obviously. You know when he won the national championship four Ohio State back in two thousand two, Jim Tressell, yep, good old Jim Tressell. How old was Zeke? He was seven years old, and Zeke would eventually win a national championship for Ohio State as well. They were both MVPs for their national championship team. Of course, as he gell it naturally the running back and the

great one that he was for Ohio State. But yes, Nugent was the first place kicker for Ohio State to ever get that kind of award, and he was a second round draft pick too. Right, Well, he also won the Luke Rosa, which Dan Bailey won. Yeah, and a quayle a kicker talk going on today. Well, I'm just saying you, guys, this is going to be a big thing this weekend, especially when you're talking about, you know, kind of the weather and everything. Sure, I think it's

going to come down to that. And if it doesn't come down to that, it's going to come down to catch your Friday prediction kicker. Now I actually have a better Friday predict Yeah, Okay, I just want to make sure you gotta think you're maybe setting this thing up. Does it impact Chris Jones at all with a new kicker? Actually, NU said it, go ahead, Rob Well. I talked to

Chris a couple of days. He said, the way the way Dan likes the ball to be held as part of the kicking operation, it's the same way that Mike prefers it. So there's no real difference there. Nugent spoke to just how systematic their operation is. Those two guys, LP and Chris Jones have done this for years together. So he's already got a comfort with it. He said, basically, I've just got to go out and do my job now, so just make the kicks and and so we'll see

day he brings up a great point. I mean the weather. He was asked about it too, and he said, it's you know, it's not something that really affects me so much as the as the operation once you got to get the ball down for me to kick. But sure it could certainly be a factor. Yeah. Somebody Askedley actually asked him about all these Ohio state players that are on the Cowboys team, and he was like, yeah, they

probably were there after me. We weren't there together. Oh, they didn't realize that he was a vested veteran type guy. He'd been in the league twelve years. This is his thirteenth year. Yeah, just looking for an angle, you know. Yeah, that's that's a stretch. I'm writing that story. Go ahead, gonna put it on five points, blue man. The Daggers don't end here. The Daggers are now Kyle Wilbur Are you guys at all concerned about him having that banged

up knee this week? He doesn't look very good. You're ready for Sunday. I don't I don't know, I have special teams player. Yeah he is, and that's you know, he's the guy that made the tackle. We were kind of broke down in the film room the other day. He's the one that made the tackle that Jeff Heath on the kickoff. So yeah, I think though this is where they're a little banged up two with Justin Durant as well. And so now you get, now, okay, how much and how fast can you get Justin march Lillard

ready to play? That's where you know he could very well factor into what you're having. You you know, you you brought up the Kyle wilbur thing, But there's a guy that's a rotational backup guy when they need, you know, when they sometimes when Damien Wilson loses his mind and doesn't play well or does something crazy, you know, they say, Okay, Kyle get in there, and kind of you know, they

correct to, you know, correct Wilson. But yeah, I mean I think now it's going to be about okay, can you use some uh, you know, march Lillard in this football game. Have you noticed that he loses his mind less when Sean Lee's on the field. Yeah, doesn't everyone. Yeah, Damien Wilson. Yeah, but Damian Wilson will make some crazy plays where you're like, you're like, well, that's a good play, and then you're going, whoa, what is he thinking? Though?

Where'd you go there? Where'd you go there? So yeah, hopefully, hopefully things Hopefully Kyle Wilver can get back. But you guys are making me kind of nervous about that. He's not going to play. He didn't look good. I mean, I'm just being honest, just the way he was moving, it's very swollen, and I mean, you know, obviously not practicing. It will be curious to see what the practice report comes back from for today. Yeah. If he doesn't practice today,

I don't think he plays. That's just me. Yeah, So I don't know. It was just an interesting one in Cheeto Limited yesterday or DMP yesterday out again. Yeah, he was to make it. Yeah, he's not gonna make it this week. When when could we even expect to see him again? Maybe next week, maybe the week after the Chiefs. I would say, yeah, and see, I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't have a timetable.

I'm just trying to you know that when they put him back out there, it's it wasn't full on pull. It just they tweaked. Yeah, it tightened up. Yeah, it tightens up. So it's like it gets fatigued. I guess is the right word. And you know it is disappointing because I said it yesterday. They're playing so many young guys and they're okay with that, you know, and heck, you got a pass rush. You got a little pass rush now, so all of a sudden, you know the secondary.

You want to play secondary. You know, your mistakes aren't magnified if you get some pass rush there. So you know the other thing, he'd be a good matchup in this game if you're healthy. Jordan Reid. They focus on their days a lot, Davis Jordan read. You know, it's interesting they're Chris Thompson and those two tight ends are among their top receivers. They kind of spread it around. So a big physical corner like Cheeto who can play safety much like Byron cover tight ends. That would have

been a nice asset. That would have been Yeah, absolutely yeah, and they were training him for that too. Yeah. I thought, well, now you put Byron down there in the slot, and Xavier Woods comes in. Yeah, lay a lot of dime because of their tight ends that can get down the field. Gotta be ready for the ball going down the field in the scheme. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, because that's what they do. Ye. Well, let's take our first break here in the SVBC Mortgage studio.

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it's free guarantee. Shop exclusive Cowboys underwear at Tommy John dot com Forward slash Cowboys for twenty percent off your first order Tommy John dot com Forward slash Cowboys. That is beautiful, Robert, thank you so much, of course. Yesterday, Josh Norman was limited for the first time since his rib injury against was that week two, I believe when they were on Monday Night Football. Yes, yes, so Josh Norman does Bryant. Will we see it this weekend? Everyone

wants to know. So do the commercials, so do these sponsors. Yeah, I think you'll see it this weekend. Now how much exciting it will be? Well, I think that, you know, like you said, I think you have to see how really how limited though that Norman is. The mobility, to flexibility, the ability to turn, ability to run. He's going to have to be physical with Bryant. That's the kind of his way of playing. Yeah, you know, I would. I

would test him. I mean, I know it sounds crazy to test Josh Norman, but I would find out really where he's at physically in this game. Can run with those Yeah? Can you turn? Run? Do all? You know? I think that's you know, make them want to tackle? Yeah, exactly exactly. I totally agree with that. I mean, Dez had last year against him, he had pretty good and I don't know that he matched up if I got all the time. But yes, I'm Josh Norman complained, right.

But in the two games, Dez was five for seventy two and seven for one h two. Right, so bring it on, Yeah, let's have it. And and truly play man too. Don't be sitting there with a linebacker kind of out in the flat to to cut off a slant, you know, play man demand. It's a new defensive coordinator there. So we'll see what Greg Manuski does with how they handle. What is he known for? Well, he's he's really a disciple.

He's a three or four guy. I'm trying to think of where his where his where he would learn from. You know, he was with San Diego forever. He Wade work together. That's what I'm trying to know there, Sandy A. That's what I'm saying. San Diego would probably go yeah, I'm thinking no, no, but that's say no, because the Cowboys were trying to get him to interview right the job right, Yeah he was, he was. He was in San Diego as their defensive coordinating yea, and they denied

that right right, the ability to internet. I think he played for Wade. I think that's really the connection. Thank you. So, so that's where you know where you have him matchup. He's got problems in his secondary though. Yeah, he's got they haven't they haven't been as good as coverage that they're sacks and stuff. The pressures and all has been good, but they've had some trouble in their secondary, given up some plays. So yeah, challenge him. Well, see where he's

at healthwise. Well, let's go to the phone lines. We have Aaron from Dallas on the line. What is your question? Hey, guys, Um, this was my first time coling and and I was just having the question about David Brian actually about what do you guys think, Um, is his deal with being that he's not seemed like he's being his catching as good as he has in the past, And just had to kind of want to see what you guys thought

about that. And I'll hang up and listen. Bro Rob, you said that coach Garrett was getting asked about that earlier today. Yeah, And Jason's point was he said, first of all, I thought Dez is getting better and better as the season's gone on. He basically said, the numbers are misleading. You can't focus on stats, especially with this offense, when you think about the focus is to get Zeke twenty to twenty five carries a game. And if he did the math. I mean, you have fifty five sixty

plays in a game. There's only so many passes that are going to go around, and he's gonna have to take advantage. And all these guys have to take advantage of their opportunities, and he thinks Dez has done that. I thought you wrote about that one play, the four yard catch to keep the drive going in first half. I thought that was a terrific drive by Dez. I think he had three first downs on that play. Yeah, his routes were crisp, he made tough catches. I do

think he's getting better and better this sea. Yeah, Dez Bryant has accepted he will not be like the other receivers around the league that you know. Now, Pittsburgh finds a way to get their guy going even when they run the football. Yeah, but Dez Bryant's okay with his stat line as long as the team continues to win games when they did not have the running back that they have you know, currently have, and that some of the other weapons be easily and all that it was

more about des Bryant, but they don't. I don't think you're ever gonna see Dez Bryant have one of those games where it's the stat line is huge. They rely on him, like Rob says, to get tough, make tough plays, and be a red zone weapon. His numbers in the red zone are always going to be good for touchdowns. That's the things you have to always as long as he's doing that, he's comfortable with it because he knows first they're a run based football team. Yeah, and he's

on pace for like ten touchdowns in this season. Four right now hasn't been like superb catching those low passes. They're on the ground, but you know, if you get it kind of in his catch radius, he's catching it. Yeah, he's snatching the ball and then he's running. You know, no one wants to get in his way. So I'm sure if he was with another team that his numbers would probably be better. I just think, I really do.

When you have a team that scored twenty eight, thirty, thirty one and forty, don't worry about who's doing what. They're doing something they're they're averaging over thirty. I'll say, I'll say this, I'll tell you why, people and this is where and Mickey, you're gonna hate this answer. What I'm about to give you all right, but this is

where fantasy footballers. Why people care about Dez Bryan's numbers? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know you should care about the and and and no offense to a guy who made the call, I'm sorry to gentleman no offense, Aaron. I know you're listening to no offense. But I think we focus on fantasy football as fans do, focus on those and think that a guy's not doing what he's supposed to do, or the numbers. Why the numbers so bad? Why you know what,

not a touchdown? Yeah? Yeah, see that's where I think that people it a little bit, the the evaluation of a player by a fan turns into just because the fantasy points aren't there. Jake Ruten, Yeah right, you say that yesterday, Yes, yeah, fantasy numbers. Yeah, it's I think it came up because the guy asked about Doz Bryant. I agree. I think when you sit down and watch on you know, you go to game pass on Dallas Cowboys dot com go watch does doing good things? Yeah,

you see him doing other things. I mean he was blocking the other day. I mean there's things that these guys do in games that's not all about we talked about Tyron Crawford's another guy you the stat sheet will never ever like you feel like that that Tyron Crawford is doing a great job. But if you watch the All twenty two, you'll see him do things in a game that you're like going, oh wow, okay, I get it, now, I get it. He's you know, we were kind of

based on numbers. Where a numbers society and good or bad. You know, you got to really focus on the big picture of Brian's right, Like, he's a guy that absolutely if they're winning, he's okay with it. There are receivers in the history of this league. They want their numbers, you know, and yeah they want to win two, but they got to get their numbers because it's about you know, some of it is I'm making this amount of money.

I want to live up to my contract, and it is about people look at how many catches and how many yard you got. Does wants to win games. That has always been his top priority and I credit him for that. Yeah, Mickey, you're right. The Cowboys are averaging twenty seven point five points per game now in the last four games. You're right, Mickey, the highest scoring games, of course, thirty two point seven five points and last year they finished at twenty six point six seven something

like that. And we were sitting there going, oh, look at this offense. They keep playing offense the way they are, they will they will put a lot of pressure on people to have to play right along with and now hope that your defense can catch up. Yeah, well for the Redskins defense that's already injured and already allowing twenty four point five points per game from their Yeah. So yeah,

and their run defense. The rankings pretty good tape, but you know, the score kind of got out of whack and a couple of those games, you saw what the Chiefs were able to do, right, able to run the ball against him. So a little misleading again, that's wise. Yeah, And you know, last week, a lot of things that we were talking about was, oh, guys, don't forget this is a San Francisco team that's lost very close games, and the Redskins game was probably one of the closest.

Should have lost that game, The Redskins should have actually lost to San Francisco if it wasn't for a terrible call. Controversial call. Yeah, that it's funny though, the narrative too about the forty nine er game. It was tough game, tough, tough game, close game, close game, and then all of a sudden you beat them by a large margin. Everything goes Ah, it's the forty nine ers. Yeah, it's tough to win games in this league, don't I don't. Yeah, I don't care who you're you know, Yeah, try and

try and play that survival pool stuff. Go pick those games. It's tough to win. Yeah, Jerry said on the fan this week, like he can't recall many times and throughout his ownership where it's thirty point lead in the second half and you really can't kind of take a breath because it's just the NFL, especially since the salary cap came in. It's just games aren't like that. Yeah, that's very true. But also, guys, this week, DeMarcus Lawrence has a great matchup, but Tyrone Crawford I think has the

bigger matchup here. Yeah, I thinking bigger, Like I think that he could capitalize his situation favorable favorable, Thank you, Mickey. I think I think you guys talked about it in that whole thing with the injury thing. Yeah, you know, with Morgan Moses. He is a slow footed guy to begin with, and now you're dealing with you know, ankle problems and stuff like that. You know, keep an eye on that one. I said it yesterday. They've done a nice job of taking advantage of beat up offensive line

or lines that aren't doing very well. Now, the kicker here for the Redskins will be the quarterback play because he will get the ball out quick. He will not hold that football if he can, so you know, we'll see can you cover you know, Crowder. I think that's a matchup. I wrote a out today on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Is with Jamison crowd or how will how will Orlando Scandrick play against him? Because that could very well be you know, you have to find a way

to win that matchup if you can. But yeah, with Lawrence, you know, have at it with Morgan if he's I have a feeling that you're going to see the Redskins they've got those multiple tight ends. Hey if you have to if him rushing the Pastors so well, it means they have to keep one of those tight ends the block. And you surely don't want Jordan Reed to be that guy, because he gave up a sack in the Philadelphia game

being that guy. So you know, we'll see if Fernon Davis and they're gonna make him run the angle a little bit wider this week. So the fact that Chris Thompson's their leading receiver has a lot to do with Kirk Cousins. He'll he'll he'll get rid of the short passing. Okay, he'll get rid of it quickly. But like I said, Dallas has to be ready for the ball going down the field too. A lot of the end cuts and things like that. Dallas has not done a very good

job when they've played that. When they when you've had a little bit of that when they get in that too deep that zone kind of and I'm not saying they played cover too all the time, but there's but they've had trouble with the spacing between the mic linebacker and the safeties, and teams have hit some inside cuts on him right there. And that's what the Redskins will try and do in this game. I have a feeling a lot of movement with the receivers, a lot of

move Thompson. What a what a funny guy to now be their leading receiver. Isn't he. Yeah, the running back is their leading receiver. He's been on this team for a few years. Yeah, he's a he's a good player and they and they will find ways to get him the football in space. That's that's the big thing. They will run. The Redskins are really really big on the pick routes. You're gonna see, you know, you're gonna see

guys getting rubbed on the outside. That's something that they get ready for that you're gonna see, you know, defensive backs and especially if you got some young guys, you gotta be careful. Jordan Lewis in this game that guys in tight formations and guys rubbing off each other and then finding a way, you know, to to kind of build space. So, uh, it's they do it. They do it with Thompson. They'll run guys inside and put him in the flat, especially down in the red zone. Got

to watch the red zone screen. I know I said it yesterday, but that's another thing that reminds me very much of the old days, like when Andy Reid with Westbrook, remember you're with Wesbrook and how they used to throw stuff to the backs. And then it's also it's a six yard pass, it turns into a seventy six yard pass. Yeah. Read So Thompson leads them in yards. Yeah, but he's got one catch for seventy four, so that kind of

skewed his fifteen point nine average. Actually, Jordan Reid leads them in receptions with twenty six, so they don't have any but they've got like one, two, three, four or five six guys that have between fifteen and twenty six catches, so they kind of spread it out. But they're leading receivers, tight end, running back. Then it's Crowder Prior Grant running back four team and then Davis another tight end. Yeah, so they kind of rely on that junk underneath. They

do they well the tight ends can get down. Oh yeah, yeah they are. They are a catch run team. Yeah, they are a catch run team. And not how they scored that the Deshaun Jackson last last year, the big like sixty seven yard touchdown, wasn't it? It was two years ago? Across the field, yeah, crossed underneath right, it was a Brandon Carr somebody fell down or and he just took off off. He made a game of I think it was the first time out maybe when they

when they only won by what three point four points? Uh, he had that big catch and got him back in the game, right, So yeah, you know, make him stay underneath. Although somehow, some way, Cousins last year threw for more than eight hundred yards in both games. Yeah, so gotta what well you got. You gotta hope for the red zone mistake too. Another thing, you know, he will make it. Yeah, I mean he's not to the level of Eli Manning, but he will make a mistake on you. Was that

a around the end zone in Washington last year? Very church? Yeah, very church. They were driving in I mean they had Dallas on the ropes pretty much, and now they you know, then, hey, that's what you gotta have. You give up red zone turnovers, That's that's killer for your offense. I mean the second game, he completed forty one of fifty three passes for four hundred and forty nine yards in three touchdowns. Yeah, they had five hundred and five yards total offense and they lost.

They only got twenty six points. Yeah. Yeah. See. The funny thing to me, when you're reading all those stats for their receivers, running backs, tight ends. I really thought in the off season when they signed Trill Pryor. I was like, oh no, because they had already had kind of a stacked little group of receivers and they were fast, I mean docs in all those guys. I was like,

oh boy, they faced prior last year. Yeah, they you know, the quarterback situation in Cleveland just isn't what Kirk Cousins is. So yeah. But there was an ESPN article that today about how they don't play at the same time, him and Dots and Dots and they're both they don't play because they're both ex receivers, so they're trying to work out a rotation with them. But again, they're so versatile.

They've got tight ends that Jordan read to me is almost like a receiver and his ability to separate and run and get down the field. Vernon Davis is still getting it done, probably into his thirties now, so good. A lot of talent, a lot of talent offensively. Yeah, can they block, That's that'll be a question. Yeah, can they block their tight ends? And well, now can they can they block? For Cousins that I mean, well, that's what you got sacked four times on Monday, And I

mean that's probably nicer than it could have been. This is where Thompson can come in. Though. Do you draw screen? You know that's one way if you if you have success, draw screen. Uh that that kind of makes defenses have to slow down, you know. Okay, were worried about guys. You know, Alston, You're rushing and boom, the screen hits you for thirty eight yards. You know that's what you have to be really careful from this game. Yeah, I was surprised when I looked at that Rob that Cousins

had only been sacked four times on Monday. And granted, I mean the injuries happened at different times during the game, but it will be curious to see if the Cowboys again we'll take advantage. Of course, they sacked CJ. Bethor five times last Sunday, right, yeah, so and the hits and the pressure and forcing him to get rid of it quickly too. Again, I'll always show up. But yeah, if you can do all of those things, it affects

those deep type deep gains that they're able to get usually. Yes, And just to clear up any confusion for anyone who's seen this, sweatshirts T shirts that DeMarcus Lawrence has been promoting the tank is coming for your shirts. Kirk Cousins is not a left handed quarter No, he is right handed. How did that work out? I was wondering what was that all about? Was that just trying not to be infringement rights? Maybe? Well? Know is that if you make him left handed? Is it not his lightness? Is that?

Is that you get around it? The same number on the jersey though, I don't. I don't know. I mean, they just had a cut out of a player it happened to be left handed, and they threw a Kirk Cousins jersey on it. I don't know. I thought I thought initially I saw that, I thought it was maybe it's mocking Cousins. People have seen that. And then they were tweeting, oh, how are you going to handle a left handed quarterback? And I was like, haven't you guys

been watching Kirk for like the past two years? Yeah? Just checking the fantasy score bucks. Yeah, no one watches. I would just look. I would love to know what Mickey's fantasy's football team name would be. Hain't got time? Oh yeah, mixed shots time fantasy football? Go ahead, man, you have time for fantasy football. I don't play right

tell us why it's terrible because it's fantasy. You know, you'd pick somebody fantasy to train somebody next week, and then you think teams shouldn't well operate the way you operate.

Your fantasy has had a luxury of working in the sports industry for a very long time, and for people who don't work in the sports industry, when you come back to work on Tuesday morning after your fantasy teams have played since Thursday through Monday night and you got a little bragging rights around the cooler, no one wants to hear. That's like somebody going out and playing golf and they come back and give you a whole by whole explanation of their strokes in the in their round

of golf. It's like I don't care or Bryan, you and I set for the tea time, Absolutely ready, goo play ten? Right? Yeah, and that's fine, but just don't come back and give me eighteen a Yeah, best movie ever. Well, let's take our final break here in the SWUBC Mortgagetradio.

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toughest opposing quarterback in the division. Oh, Kirk Cousins, we just finished talking about him, Eli Manning or Carson Wentz with that six and one record? Here, you guys got it's the toughest matchup for the Cowboys. Def oh for the Cowboys. Whoever? I thought you meant toughest, like you're out of this. You left Dak Prescott out actually voted on this one. If you read the poll, it says a post look for it. I can't find it good Lord, you guys got I took, I took, I took Cousins.

I voted for Cousins. I think it's a I think it's a bad matchup for the Cowboys, to be honest with you, I mean, if he doesn't make mistakes, but this record won't tell you that. The record says you beat him. But I worry about him kind of getting it together, which he has. But the matchup is difficult. Matchup is very difficult. Hey, what forces you to make mistakes?

Maybe you got I said, yeah, Wentz, I'll take Cousins last year seventy for ninety nine, eight hundred and thirteen yards, four touchdowns, one reception, and oh now he wants to play two ells. Well, the fans agree with Tay Carson Wentz by a landslide eighty four percent, followed by Kirk Cousins eleven percent, Eli five percent. They're going strictly off record, right, Cowboy Nation is sure they are because if you look at the stats, and stats aren't everything. Sure they are.

Cousins is third in the NFL and passer rating ahead of Wentz one oh seven point two. Yeah. When it comes to stats, all I care about his target? Yeahgets are high. Those targets work out. Last week, I mean two passes batted at the line of scrimmage and they gave targets target away, and he had three more passes he threw in the ground because he was going to try to save himself from getting sacked, and somebody got a target. Yeah, that would be twenty one. Got a

target on that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, Dak Prescott is already as long as seventy doesn't get a target, you're okay, Yeah, true, Dak Prescott is already the most endorsed athlete in the NFL. That's pretty impressive. But now he's number one in sales from March thirty, first to sales. Yeah, whatever surpassed him all dak Mania, dak Mania. So, I mean that's a little surprising to me. Still because of

the Cowboys having a three and three start to the season. Now, granted, Dak is still now even more so considered in the MVP talk reading a whole article about how he's dropped, how he's still considered. What do you mean pumped up? You haven't heard his radio commercial. No, I'm pumped up. That's all says, that's it. It's a whole commercial in the middle of the red and it's m Dak Prescott. I'm pumped up. What is it for soup? No? No, yeah, well he's where he's got his cardboard cut out. Yeah,

can't well up to get it as a drop. I'm actually he told us a funny story yesterday and I can't remember who it was. It was somebody was not a family member or was a friend. And when they walk into seven to eleven and if the cardboard cut out in the back of the store, this guy picks it up and moves into the front of the store. And the guy kept telling him, no, don't do that because people see it and they think he's in here, and it's like, well, that's a good thing. In full uniform. Yeah,

he always does that. That weird out. Yeah. Well, I mean just congrats to Dak. That just speaks to him again. I mean, obviously, brands are going to continue to endorse you. People are going to continue to buy your year. And he does it again. Yep. He's young, he's likable, he's really good. Ninety eight point two passer rating keeps getting better. I mean he's on pace for I don't know thirty eight hundred passing yards. Kim Newton should learn some things.

Also figured out that if if he had not had those two drop passes into interceptions, he'd be at like one oh three almost one oh four his quarterback rating. Yeah, so he hasn't been the problem. If there's a problem, he's Yeah, I would I said it before. I'd hate to see where this team would be if he wasn't the quarterback. Right now, let's go back to the phone lines. We have Ray from Fort Worth on the line. What

is your question? Okay, First, I'd like to say Carson Wentz by a landslide, not because of targets, but because he's a dual threat. He's also he's running the ball better, keeping his eyes down the field. He's playing a lot better than he was by last last season. You can't relax on him. You're not worrying about Kirk Cousins taking off and running down the field. So I mean he's so Carson Wentz is so much better than he was

land by a landslide. He's got better people, Dallas Um, like you were saying in regards to Sean Lee the field general, we have to have him healthy and ready to go in this game. I mean, he's so much fun to watch him, to be honest, that's I'm just trying to focus on him on the defensive side of the ball and the games that they offensive coordinated tries to play to occupy him because they know he's such

a problem. He's about far our our best coverage guy, and we're gonna need him in this game because they're gonna try to isolate those they're trying they're gonna get the running backs involved in the passing game. And we need this game because it's the NFC East, but it's also another NFC. We can't afford another NFC lock. We can push Washington further behind us. We can't afford to lose this game because it's an NFC game. Thanks, and it's the Redskins. It's the Redskins. Be interesting to see

what Carson Wentz's numbers are when they blitz him. Yeah, because this guy right here, his quarterback rating is a one oh one. Blitz him, yeah, when you blitz him, you know, and by the way, a matter of found in the ball twenty two times for one hundred and twenty one. And then you're also thinking about this too. This team is one of the top teams in the league.

When it comes to a third and plus ten conversions, third and more third and ten more yards conversion, That's that's saying a lot about a guy when he when he's converting at that rate. You know, you get a guy forty one percent of the time they're converting at those rates. That's that says a little bit about your quarterback. I'd be interested to see what Carson Wentz's numbers are. Make sure you go score thirty points? Ye all? I

gotta say, yep? Can they do that this weekend? Last three teams that played the Redskins average twenty nine points a game. Well, you're one and two when you've scored thirty points last three helps you better score thirty again? You better do it again. If you didn't score, if you didn't score thirty, still be one and two? Is if this feels like one of those forty one thirty eight gaps, even in the rain, it feels like that

to me. I feel like it's always. I think these games always are lower scoring games than people expect them to be. It's tough to play at that place. It is tough. I mean, you get great fans there for the Cowboys. I mean it turns into it turns into a fist fight in the stands, But I mean on the field, it's you know, we could talk about their bank up offensive line and all that, and hopefully they'll

take advantage of that. But man, I mean it's and this this, this game is not going to be I don't think this is gonna be one of those easy games. Tough to watch the game at that place. They can't see that low, very difficult low angle. Yeah. Yeah, what else? You pissed off about the worst worst press box in the league. You're about to go to that in December, oh Oakland. Yeah, but at least you could see the game. Sure you can. You're eighteen miles from the field, but

you're still not baseball baseball press box. Not that high though, Yea. Here you're low and in the corner. Yeah, big runs, the look have gone anywhere? Can't you have no depth recept perception. I swear it was a one game when it was the DeMarco Murray game that when he's the fourth down play, we couldn't tell, ye because we were at one inning, we couldn't tell if it was in or not. I mean we were like screaming, you have to watch the big screen. Yeah, you have to figure

out the screen. Yeah yeah, Well, Dak Press TV. We're such complainers. We're very lucky to be at at and T Stadium, home of the Dallas Cowboys, home of great food. Press box the people, the people there that cover the team complain about As a matter of fact, they complained enough that they got us and I don't know if

they still had it. They found a separate small box up high but on the fifty yard line for one beat writer from each team, that from each paper that covered the team, to be able to watch the game. That's good from so they could see. Yeah, I kind of like it. Yeah, it's different. Well, the Cowboys will return to Rob's the most polite guy in the world. He is against the Chiefs, who have to take on

the Broncos this weekend. So both the Cowboys and the Chiefs have to take on divisional opponents, which is kind of like, finally the schedule's feeling a little bit more. Yeah. Ten straight weeks though, now, I mean, I mean, we've got you got the you had you know last week. Of course, you had to find a way to win the game at San Francis. But this is good be a tough run now, I mean it really really is with the opponents, And do you think this is a

hard as four game stretch for this team? You're talking about the role I was said earlier. I said earlier though that I felt like, yeah that you know, Kansas City has lost a couple of games, they give them up a lot of points last couple of weeks. Atlanta Steve Sarkiss, and I don't know what he's doing with their offense there in Atlanta, I really really don't. They've had a lot of problems there, you know that it's

not as good as it once was. And they thought about there would be some growing pains there with him as an OC. But that that Atlanta bunch. Now they've lost a couple of games at home, which we never thought that would happen with them. But yeah, you gotta get past this. This you gotta not get past You gotta find a way to win these. You know, you gotta get a little role. You know, last year, you know felt like if if you want to hang in there, you know, I mean the vision, I mean, still you

got Philadelphia twice, which will help you. Got to win those games, but you can't. You can't just give away any more games, especially if Washington's has banged up as we think they are. Yeah, I mean just think the difference of one wind makes oh yeah, four and two, three and three? Yeah. Rob, Can you believe that he's saying that because he doesn't think the first place schedule matters. It matters. It absolutely matters. And that's what you're just saying, Mick,

it matters. I said one win, I didn't say anything about the schedule. Yeah, but if you're going up against a harder team, so if they had beaten the Rams, the first place schedule doesn't matter a hill of beans because you have to play them and everybody else had to play them. I've been loving your expressions lately. Somebody actually tweeted at me the other day. You said make

hay may kay. Yeah. Yeah, it's right. They tweeted at me the explanation of that, saying that when you make hay in the sun or something, then it's it's just a very beautiful saying. So you're learning. I am alert, especially if you listen now. David Irving will play three Tech this week, and yeah, and that's going to be an interesting thing because now that opens up different internities for Taco and everybody around there. Do you guys think

that Taco can have a big game this weekend? Should he have a big game this weekend, can get his first sack? I told you that yesterday. Prediction by a teammate. Yeah, yeah, Green with Crawford, I'd like to see him. I'd like to see him be more consistent, I really would. I mean, if he's going to get more snaps, be consistent every snap, don't play, don't get your first sack and then go away for five plays. Kind of build on that. Find

a way. Hey, if you're gonna have some success, if you're gonna play, I always say his play technique, you know, give those coaches a reason to keep you in there be it be a difference maker. Today, well, he talked about I think a couple of weeks ago you need and it's kind of like running backs. You know, more

plays you get, you get into a rhythm. So and Brian talked about what you earn those snaps and then you get So if he's if he's locked in for thirty plus snaps, we'll see, maybe it's an opportunity for him to build a rhythm as a rusher Russia. I think he need down after confidence. I think he really does. I think he's I watched him that play after the play the other day when we gets Joe staleyof balance, he's got a shot. He falls down after the play.

You see him like take his hands and like slam in his head because he knew, he knew he'd done the right thing to get home on the rush and he didn't finish it. I think he needs some confidence. And if he could get two or three or four plays in a row where he's having some success with it, you know, he gets some say he's in there and he gets two of the three plays he makes a tackle in a run or gets pressure, knocks a ball

down tips. I think that would help him. I think he just needs some success and he hasn't had that yet. And once he gets him, maybe he'll turn the corner a little bit on that. Now it's going to be a slippery field. Yeah, and thing about that, Yeah, he needs longer spikes. He just needs too, as Charltons, something he needs. He just needs to have some good play, some successful plays, and I it'll get him into a rhythm.

We've seen him at Michigan. You know, he'd have games where he'd have four or five really good plays and you're like, man, okay, he's I could see why Dallas did what they did. But you know, he hasn't had that yet. And we've seen him in some practices have a couple of good rushes. We saw it in the preseason. Yeah, he just can't get He's not consistent enough doing it, and that's that's a big issue. On the other side

of the ball. Do you think that Lyle Collins is more confident this week going up against somebody like Ryan Kerrigan than he might have been to start this season. He's seen a lot of big time defensive ends, right, Yeah, you're right. I think it's got to serve him well. Right, even start dating back to preseason where you get a few snaps against Khalil Mack, He's it's been a row of von Miller Miller. Yeah. Yeah, and he's he's the

best player on their defense this other than Josh Norman. Yeah, this is one of those you keep an eye on. This is and I could see Dallas using some max protection here and they'll they'll try and but yeah, you move, if you move Carrigan over to the other side. Who you've getting him against Tyren Smith. Okay, you really don't want to do that if you're you know, if you're a Greg Manuski, you want to say, Okay, we'll take our chances with Lyle Collins. But Lyle Collins, it felt

like he's played pretty well. He hasn't been the weak link in this offensive line. I know people were saying, oh, there's a lot of changes and this and that and the other, but I think overall he's been pretty consistent. I was using the word consistent. I'll use it right there with him, but it's it's not gonna be easy. Ryan Carrigan is a relentless, come after you guy, down

after down after down. He's gonna you know, he's a hard guy to when they boot waggle to get to the outside because he doesn't get fool He's just not gonna come flying down inside. So you have to almost play to the echo of the whistle when you're playing against him. You gotta finish him off. You can't let him come back in and chase a player, chase a ball.

If Dak's running around the pocket, you got to make sure Carrogan's taken care of because if you don't, he's the one that's gonna make the tackle more so than anybody else on that defense. But a bull's eye on him in the running game. Make him play the run. Don't let him have the freedom to just rush the passer. Let his little skinny butt have to play the run. Skinny butt? Is that like Jack Rabbit on the Giants?

Maybe that's how you interpret that he's an outside linebacker. Yes, make him play the run, get the ball on the edge, and if he's got to respect the run, it's going to slow down his pass rush. Yeah, it's a run on him. I was just saying that Lyle Collins probably feels a lot better about seeing him over there than somebody like Von Miller. Well, but this guy's a really good pass rusher. This guy's good. I know that. I know that, but I feel, like Lyle Collins, you're talking

about building up confidence. Nobody wants to see von Miller. You're absolutely right about that, But I think that you have to be careful with this guy. I really really do. I mean to me, this guy will attack you, and he'll attack the edge. He's got pass rushers. Von Miller's the same way. Von Miller's got quickness, explosiveness. This guy's got a little bit more power, and he's got a little bit more linked to him, and he's a little bit more of a like I say, a longer guy

to get into you and get rid of you. So be careful with this guy. Alfred Morris had a touchdown last year when the Cowboys headed up to Washington. Of course, that was his first game back since they'd let him go in free agency. Well loved up there, well, well, well loved. Yeah, he went out before the game. If you remember, you're on the you get on the field three hours for everybody else. And he was going and shaking hands with all the people that work in the

stadium and stuff. They I mean, they all go up, and I mean he's a big he's a big part of what their community was really all about with the Redskins. Yeah, they loved him up there, and I wonder if he'll still do the same in the rain. Mickey and I will keep our eyes posted in our trench coats the same in the rain play as well. Talk Alfred Morris talking to those people the stadium, fam. He'll get it. He'll get him underneath. Yeah, by thet true. That's a

good point. We'll have to look for that. Yeah. Alfred Morris, what a guy. He is a great guy. When he touchdown last year winning touchdown. All right, everybody who join us tomorrow for our Friday show is Mickey will probably be choosing to Marcus Lawrence. But you know you got to see what Rob and Brian. Thanks coming for you, Thanks coming for you. So join us then we will

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