The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the Star in Frisco. Now, your hosts Nicky Spagnola, Rob Phillips, Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. And it's Tuesday, December thirty first, two thousand nineteen, the last day of two thousand nineteen, and the waiting game continues here inside the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star in Frisco. This is today's Jason
and Jerry pregame show. Very good, Bill, Welcome to the Games show. I haven't seen any smoke come out of any window on the second floor up there, Okay, no people flying out of the window. Oh no, Vatican, yeah absolutely, yeah, No one's come, No one's been thrown out right. Yeah. And so here we are to discuss what's going on with this team as it's day number two of the twenty twenty off season for this team New decade. Well, yep, that's exactly right. It's tomorrow. Ye ter borrow, Micky don't.
And when we end this show, Mickey do not say, well, see you next year. Or see you next decade. Okay, how many decades have you lived? For now getting into twenty twenty, he's a distractable player. I really got no, I just dismissed your joke. That's all all right. And again, supposedly Jason and Jerry are set to meet for a second straight day here at the Star in Frisco. Yesterday, Jason said the meeting would start around noon, and it started about three or four in the afternoon, And so
we'll see if today's noon meeting starts at noon. It wasn't up to Jason anyway, that's exactly I think that's Jerry time here, and if he hasn't finished his player interviews, postgame postseason interviews, that it may not start at noon, right, Why everybody gets this noon thing? Hi? Noon? Yeah? I just got to stop watch on it. Yeah, so all right, soon get in my office. What is he saying goodbye
to everyone? Is that what you think it is? I mean, what is the mean the interview talking about just just Jason? What did they do that with you guys? When my exit interview was with you guys? I remember that, you remember? No, I'm talking about Jimmy Johnson, about coach at the end of the season when you were still on the team. Oh no, no, no exit interviews they have with you. Oh we did not started that. I wonder when that started. No, not even when you were at the Giant Answer or anything.
No one does exit interviews. Then that was back in the nineties. Care about that. We didn't do exiting. What about physical I don't recall one exit interview. Yeah, your physical was okay, there's a purpose in that. And and I just remember clean out my locker and you know, even when it was the season was over. It wasn't that I was leaving, but the season was over. You clean out your locker, takes some stuff home because you're not gonna be there almost every day looking at you know,
the other guys instead of looking at your family. So yeah, that was that was it. That was the exit right there. Did did you use garbage bag back? We did not use garbage bags? No, no, no, we had we just had bags. Okay. Yeah, so we didn't have the walk of shame. There was no walk of shame or anything
like that. Yeah. But what Jason has done at the end of every season as the head coaches, and they've done that all the head righteous right, and and the assistant coaches me with their position group the players as well. You know the quote unquote exit interviews. But I have no contract, Then why are you interviewing people? Well, you have no contract? So how does that he is still so he's interviewing j Jerry's giving him his exit interview.
The thing that out the things that puzzled fans or media whoever, is that you know, the Browns and Giants would have had made made moves and they allowed coaches to do eggs interviews that they go ahead and made a change. So we'll see what they do. Um, but those teams had already exited. They could have done the interviews last week. That's that's true. True, That's that's true. They were not the case. Yeah, So then what is the purpose of Jerry meeting with Jason? You think, well,
I guess they're gonna talk. Look, I don't think this is easy for Jerry. There's no doubt, you know, and and and I think I said it yesterday, But in the broadcast on Sunday, Troy Aikman was exactly right. He said, the las last thing Jerry Jones wants to do is not have Jason Garrett as his head coach, and that was before we knew at the end of the season.
So and and he's right, this is not going to be easy for Jerry to call him in that office after all these years and say, Okay, this is what I decided now, because when he made this higher in twenty eleven, I'm sure he was hoping expecting it to be his last hire. He was hoping it was a Tom Landry's right, because he saves Tom Landry like right, very corporate, even tempered. You know, you won't see him flying off the handle. That's kind of what Jerry wanted.
He wanted someone that would memory Tom Landry as opposed to Jimmy Johnson. I guess and didn't want that that he didn't want that guy. Maybe he pulls a Clint Murkison and comes out and says, I just signed him to ten year. But people have to remember this relationship goes back over twenty five years, really farther than that, because Jim Garrett has been a huge part of this organization too. I mean, this is there's a close relationship,
a close bond here like Zone. Yeah, definitely, Like Mix said, this, this is not easy whatever. Here's the other part, relationship right to a person that you you don't know nearly as well as you knew Jason game with us. Here's the other part of it. Supposedly Jason's contract doesn't expire until January fourteenth. Okay, you get two weeks after the last the last game. Although there's been conflicting, does anybody
really know Jake? I mean, Jake Glazer said Wednesday. But yeah, but then when you think about it, Wednesday's January first, you're probably saying, you know, twenty twenty. But I think you're right where you get to mean, why wouldn't why Why wouldn't expire Wednesday? If you were still playing this week? Why would it expire January fourteenth if you're still in
the playoffs. No, you can say two weeks after the game. Yeah, so, but but beyond that, I think that there is value in Jerry picking Jason's brain about this team, this coaching staff, and so forth. Okay, as the season is going on, all right, you are not looking at the broad perspective on Okay, what is this coach like? What is that
player like? Okay, because they've got and they've got twenty five unrestricted free agents, Jerry and Steven have to make decisions on do we bring this player back, do we
do whatever? You're respectfully talking with Jason and well, the other part of it is, remember when Bill Parcels left and Jerry interviewed what ten candidates And one of the one of the reasons for doing that, and a lot of teams do this is they bring as many candidates as possible from as many organizations in so they can pick their brain on how they run things in Carolina or with the Rams or whatever, or you picked their
brains on specific players. It might be free agents. This may be Jerry's way of having Jason interview for his job, you know, and to hear what he has to say about the team and about the way things have happened here. There are things that maybe go on on a coaching staff that Jerry and Stephen don't know about. That is, you don't really know about what a person is like
on a coaching staff until you work alongside him. Okay, when when you when you hired a certain coach, maybe that coach you felt good about him, but then you work alongside him for a couple of years for you or whatever, and the guys on the inside say, wait, that was a problem. Those are types of things that Jerry can find out meeting with Jason, and I don't know that the okay, right now, it looks like Jason may not be a part of this organization, but who
knows on down the road. You know. The only reason I disagree with that is because with the issues they've been having doing different stretches, I would think Jerry has already addressed a lot of them about the team. Right Um, I wouldn't present I possibility, no doubt and that And that's the only one I disagree with, because I would imagine he wasn't gonna wait till the end of the season to evaluate his players. He was he was trying to reevaluate when we went three and old and all
of a sudden we start taking right. So I'm sure some of the perspective what my teams you would have exactly where do they go on? I'm sure they addressed that already, probably right after Thanksgiving. I'm sure right after Thanksgiving that was addressed, or even the three games stretch of games in twelve days, So I would imagine they already have that together. So to me, it still seems like another issue. I don't think that is the issue. That's the only reason I disagree on that. You know,
the thing on the assistant coaches, though, is valid. I think maybe he And here's the other thing. I'm sure people are thinking, Oh, Jason Garrett so mad, He's just gonna pack up his bags and starm at the door. And that's not Jason, right. He will complete the job as they would every other year. Uh. And you don't burn any bridges. Who knows you're sixty years old, you're
not coaching, and oh you need a scout? Yeah, I still would like to do some work, right, And so yeah, do you think Jerry wants to see Jason Garrett coaching the New York Giants? Uh? No, I do not think that. I mean that would be that's a nightmare. If he were to move on and go somewhere like that within the division and have immediate success. Here's wow. You know there's another reason why you make the giants come to
you and ask permission to talk to your coach. Then he's still under contract to you or you or you Okay, they can wait until January fifteenth to talk to him. You know, I'll make you a deal. You can't talk to Jason, but he can talk to Chris Rashard. That's its definitely impossibility. Yes, yeah, and he didn't have to if and I think Chris probably still under contract, so you know, he didn't have to let him do that.
But when it's a head coaching job, it's Richards contract up or you're saying he's under contract just as Jason is for the rest of this contract. And even if it was up, he would still have two weeks. And so I come and ask for man, he's a coordinator, he can go interview for a coaching job if he's under contractor or was he a coordinator? Well, he's he's a passing game he's not all I think there's a fine line. Yeah, he's pass game coordinator. But regardless, he's
an assistant coach. He can go interview for a head coach coordinator or not coordinator matter. Yeah, otherwise anything below head coach considered a lot. He could not go interview for the defensive coordinator position with the Giants. Well, I'm you know, just as a black man, be proud for the hire, you know, I mean that would be great, be great for the Rooney rule and say, everything's working out, but the coaching that he did here, I don't know if he was. Um how how can I say I
don't know if he was. His decisions may have been trumped, you know, the senior coach here. But I did not see a good product. I did not see a good product that he was coaching. You know what. It was interesting and Mickey and Rob you might mistake more insight
on this. You know, it was that it was last season where much was made about the fact that Chris Richard is now calling the game during the game, Kay and Mary Nelly working hand in hand with We didn't hear as much about that or any about that this year. I don't think anybody asked, but I assume that's what it was still happening. Yeah, I think he still had a lot of a lot of input on it. And you know, even little things like, um, more pressure, well,
there's more pressure that comes with for sure. And and Rod actually, you know these Thursday during the week where the coordinators speak. Rod gave Chris the opportunity to do that now and represent the defense alongside Kellen Moore every Thursday with media. I mean, he he wants him, you know, to be able to be visible and in position old and don't feel like doing that crap. Probably a little bit. You take responsibility for this, probably a little bit. Now
I'm too old for this crap. It's like Chris six. Well, i'll tell you the other thing we did. You got a good defensive from I'll talk to the media. You talk to him. After that, I got this. Here's the other guy we hear so much about. Remember at the beginning of the season, the first six eight games, it was all about Kellen Moore colin plays. And now the last part we didn't hear much about, not much about that. Jason didn't. You didn't know Jason was calling the plays
the last I think he was making some suggestions. By the way, And that's one thing I saw with Jason Garrett that you don't see with other coaches. I only saw him talking on his I rarely saw him speaking words doing a ball game, unless he's talking to the referee. He did, he did. TV just didn't show it, okay, And it's like the tree in the forest, you know,
the camera doesn't catch it. It didn't happen, right, So when when when Amari Cooper's pouting on the sideline, you get a shot of it, and it's like, oh, I could have gotten the shot like that. Yeah right they did. They did? Yeah nice the end of the what the Philadelphia game? Yeah yeah, okay, oh he's not in the game. Look at their right. But this thing with Jason, we'll see what they do. But if they do indeed move on, and it's a day later than everybody expected, what is
the big deal? Right? I mean, I mean everybody just wants the story. I don't think it stops them from if they again, if they move on looking toward who they want to look toward. I guess just everybody thought this was going to be this quick deal like the Kitchens, the Cleveland Browns and then in the other Giants, Yeah yeah, like in the what was it Lane Kiffin and the on the tarmac you know kind of thing like and and it came off the plane. Sorry, pack your bags.
This is you know this. We'll see what happens. But this is an unusual circumstances, I think because the fans and some of them me that just want Jason gone so badly, you know, they just way to dump on him as as soon as this happens, and everybody has thought it's a fore gone conclusion ever since for the last like it was just done, you know, and and it's not yet, you know, we'll see and again that nothing official yet. Maybe we get word today, maybe we don't,
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Dallas Cowboys. Back to talking Cowboys. Talking Cowboys continues here as the waiting game continues. The Cowboy players, some of them still hanging out around here, some waiting to do their exit interviews until today because there was too long a line to get into the offices, or they didn't get in time to do their physicals. There you go. There's all sorts of reasons, although five of those guys hurried up and signed their futures contract. You got that
little bit off the top of my head. I'd have to go back and look it up, all right, because I'm an intrepid reporter for you, Jordan Chun, Yes, those are two recognizable names, right, all right? Did you ever figure out how how to pronounce the tight Ends name? Cole Haikutini? That sounds good, Okay, get it for you? Tight End Tevin Jones, Center, Marcus Henry, d B d J. White and that's it. No Thorson, Oh, I don't have him on my list. QB. Clayton Thorson on the list.
I did not see his name on it. Okay, I guess he's not on the list. Maybe he's looking for a different future contract contracts, which means they'll be in training well, they'll be in the off season program. If they make it through the offseason program, then they'll be in training camp and they'll be cut on September first. Okay, Wow, did you get clarification on Michael Bennet. Yeah, he's got a different designation. He's listed as not unrestricted to be
or restricted to be. He's just free agent. So I I assume that means he could sign. He could sign a future still right if he wanted to, if he wants to keep playing. You know, he's thirty four. This would be his twelfth season. He's been He's bounced around a lot um. He can't sign with the team right now for the playoffs though. I don't know the answer to that exactly. Yeah, I'm not. Maybe you knew, but you would tell, Oh, now you get sometimes I didn't.
I didn't ask that the answer before you ask the question, what is the answer, then I have no idea. I don't know. I didn't ask first. I've learned because I just saw him listed as void, like his contract was avoided. Well, they did, right, they but it was two probably renegotiated. They dropped the last year on the contract. So let's say he is a free agent. He does he count as an unrestricted free agent in that he would count in the pool where you could get a compensatory draft
pick the next year if you signed. Okay, I don't think so. That's probably the reason for the designation. Do we as a cowboy to do we want him back thirty four years old based on his awfully productive when he was in there. Yeah, and you're talking about no preparation, you know, you're just talking about the guy that came in here and we threw him in the mix, had a short shelf life the last four or five teams he's been with, or whatever reason. It's sounded like old Philly,
New England. And yeah, and maybe he doesn't want to keep doing that, you know, but but it sounded like things went well for him when he was here. And he is from the East Texas area, so yeah, that might be a convenience for him to say, you know what, I'm about to settle down thirty four years old, maybe thirty five by the time the season starts. Let me see if I can settle in here. Depending on who the coach is, depending on what the Cowboys want to do and how much they want to pay him exactly.
You know, that's what it comes down to, right, Well, I mean when you're in your last you know it's coming around your last year, you just never know what kind of compromise can be made, right, that'd be interesting. I think if I could use another million dollars, Yeah, just a just a meal, maybe a meal five yeah, yeah, And it depends who's gonna be coaching this defense, sure,
and what defense you're playing. Yeah, if he's been around the league that many times, there might be a connection with whoever comes in, you know that be six degrees whoever comes in, And I mean it might be something positible. But if Wade Phillips came back here and they're running a three four, he may not fit in a three four way then coming back way. And if you if you look, well, not even Wade, if you just look at the personnel on this club, they ain't got three
four personnel right right, show me four linebackers. Two of them are big enough to stand on the line of scrimmage and rush the quarterback. One one's gonna have next surgery and tour impending free agents and man, you look across this rosied to do one might retired. Yeah, Sean, Yeah, it's possible, possible. Sounded like he's leaning towards coming back, but he said, he said, but he's more encouraged now than he was last year that he can keep doing
this doing at a high level. Now, he's gonna sit down and talk about it. But I think they want him back if he wants to be back. Didn't he play sixteen games sixty time first time a while? Right? And right it is we have and he had to and he had to serve as a starter those last five or six games with vander Ish out, but he was starting earlier and he was in the Yeah. And
but I'm not a little bit lower. And if you noticed though, when they when it was almost the end of the first quarter that they put Malcolm Smith on the nickel when there was two linebackers and he came out. Um. So I don't know if that was an indication of his ability to chase down on the in the passing game or whatever he was the inability to cover tight ends, yeah, because that's when it was definitely a pat third in a passing situation. He was off the field. Milk. And
now now that's another case Malcolm Smith. You know, I'm sure he wants to look and see what's out there. But you know that wasn't all that bad for a backup line back. And if you look at Sean Lee's career, if he comes back again, if they want him back, then he could be a at least the first second down. Yeah. Absolutely, And then like you say, bringing in the Malcolm Smith or maybe we might sign someone else that can really come on third down. And Nichols good to have him
in the locker room. You know, the same thing with Kai Forbath too. You know, you might have found yourself a kicker man. Uh. You know, I talked to him and he's like, well, I'm heading back to LA and we'll kind of see what happens. And no, he's an LA guy. He didn't that's where he's from. Okay. And he did say he didn't say, well they told me to stay close or whatever, and so um, you know, and he was like he goes, you know I did.
I did more kicking than this year than I would have if I had a full time job, because you're always training and then you're going to these workouts. Uh, and then you know you're trying to make sure you're in shape. Your body's got to be now. And he said, I probably kicked more this year than I having a long time. I said, so when you kick again, he goes, I'll take probably march, you know, and just back off and get my leg stronger. Well, I got to say
I was impressed. Yeah, you know, I'm hoping he comes back. It's always good to have that field goal kicker that you know you can count on. Uh nineteen ninety Giants part Sales is always good with special teams. That was a big thing for him, and he always wanted that kicker that he could rely on. Matt bar that was the guy kicked five in San Francisco. Yah, send us to U down to Tampa to beat the Bills. But you want to me big kicks are amazing. We had that.
But I yeah, yeah, me and Matt boy best friends. Let's just be real about that here, and we kiss when we see each other. That's how much I love this guy. He got me my ring. But when we started talking about accuracy, four bath was down the middle every time. I'm not and that to me, it wasn't just about that. They made the field goals. It was the fact that they were true. And when you when you know they're true, then you have you have much
more confidence in your game plan. Now, now you know you can count on that forty forty five yards or forty nine fifty yep, and that's what you need. That's what you need. That way you can go forward with your game plan and not have to say, Okay, the field goal kickers set us back. We want field goal kickers that are going to advance our cause. And he did it every time he was called upon. Yeah, it wasn't like us off the tea box, right, No, exactly,
don't have a don't have a gallery while I'm teeing off. Okay, nobody's gonna get it. Yeah, But back to the defense just real quick. As we talked about Michael Bennett though, man, you look at and we got a lot of time to get into this, but every level of the defense they've got major decisions to make. We talked about the linebackers. Robert Quinn's going to be a free agent, hew me. The list of free agents, go for it. Defensive line,
Michael Bennett, Robert Quinn, MALIEK. Collins, Christian Cuvington, Kerry Hyder. I'm sorry, that's the exclusive rights free agents. And then Daniel Ross signed to a futures contract. A linebacker, Sean Lee, Malcolm Smith, Joe Thomas, Ray Ray Armstrong who was here for a day, and justin March dbs Byron Jones, Jeff Heath, Anthony Brown, Cavan Frazier, c J. Goodwin, Darien Thompson. That's a lot of names. One six dbs, five linebackers and five defensive linemen. There's a lot of names, but from
a defense with a lot of disappointments. So what does that do for you? You know? Are they just names? Do we do we keep them? You know? I'm just how talented are these guys? Yeah, they can be talented all they want. I'm can they make a play? I'm legitimately asking how talented are these guys? But because coming in the season, this team has so much talent sort of quote unquote talent, how much talent was really on
that defense? If we're go ahead, I was gonna say, if you're looking at the defensive line, I mean, what you want back? I mean you would love to have Quinn back? I think right? And Malie Collins was sneaky good one is great, so it being interesting with his market value is right. The rest of the guys, I'd like Kerry Hyder as a you know, minimum wage veteran guy. Yeah, and he's from his energy. He wants to do that again, that's fine, but I'm not rotation expending, right, big buck
exactly right? Yeah, resources the linebackers, Yeah, you'd like to have Sean Lee back. What do you think Sean would be willing to take a pay cut? Well, he already took one this year. Well, once again we have to sell her. He was only making two and a half million. Yeah, so he's already down for whatever. So that's about if you can get him back for that, sure, why not? The big one to me is Byron Jones because if the CBA stays in place this spring, then you can
you can still franchise a couple of guys. If it has to be Dak and Amari. What what does that leave for Byron? You know, does he go elsewhere seek another a larger deal? And if so, no picks this year, but last year either, Lord last year either. But he's your most consistent guy cover man on a secondary that that struggled and that, and that's what you have to be very sneaky when it comes to cornerbacks and defensive backs,
sometimes not hearing your name. He's a good thing, right, And there a lot of times in the ball game where we we did not hear Biling Jones's name, right, and that's good. Be good at bad depends on if it's guy I was catching the ball, If his wide receiver hadn't been mentioned as well, which happened more than a few games, then you're looking at a solid player.
Now do you want to invest a lot of money into a guy who can't make turnovers or seems to have an inability to get interceptions, which are just it's not an ego thing for me. I want to make sure people understand that out there, you guys know just because he had fifty seven picks in his career turning off the mic, but all it is is it's a necessity. That's like saying you have a running back that can't
catch a pass. He's limited. He's limited, and lets you know, you're not gonna look for him to do any type of receiving. So he's a one dimensional running back. And as far as defensive backs are, concerned if you don't have the ability to hit somebody hard enough to where he fumbles all the time, or you a guy that punches that all the time like Jake read ed Reid
did all the time. Get the interception. You gotta come with something else and I can just cover my guide and so and so here's the other thing on that too. What's the alternative? But the alternative? And then what's the market value? Byron? And seeing here, here's another one you might be able to get a good deal on is Anthony Brown because he missed half the season. So what's he got in free agency to market himself. You might get him on a one year, prove it deal, like
you come back. We need that depth. And I think they missed him. I think they missed him a lot. I disagree totally. I totally disagree. I just I thought he was a nice little player. I just didn't think he had anything to the secondary. He was just pretty much what we already had. You know, a guy that was athletic, has no ball presence, has no route recognition, but he's athletic, right, I want we still need to go out and get a defensive back that can make plays. Okay,
that's just all of this is to it. We've been been going out getting these guys. Oh way, he was on the practice field for two years. I don't want to hear all of that crap. We gotta gets the players in here. That's like. That's like I'm sitting there watching Kansas City the other day and Tyrone Matthew has made plays in his entire career, going back to his
grade school career. Here you can see at the combine he was so much better than anybody on that field at the combine, his ball skills, everything about the way he plays, and he's played like that throughout his career. And he was available in free agency this passed off season. Kansas City him up. Wasn't a scheme fit here, right An. We don't like people to make plays the scheme fit. We don't. He doesn't fit into our scheme of not
getting into step. But I think he's a classic example of that guy just makes play and you talk about knocking the ball out, I mean just that it's instinctive. Thank you, Bill. If you've got a guy that's instinctive, you have to be able to know that. If you can see it, then why can't I scout see it. And don't get me on scouts because I was a freaking free agent coming out of the GRAM and I need to show you my big gree NFL sut So
the bottom line on all these free agents. So we just noted mentioned there's only a few priority ones that you say, Okay, I gotta have them back. I agree with that too. Right, you don't need to sign twenty five. You don't. You don't need to. You could let two thirds of them go. Right, Let's just be real, you can let two thirds of them go. I mean, let let's let's be fair. Dak right, yep uh, Coop Coop
Pollard's gonna test market even with Cooper. With Cooper, there's a question on Cooper, now, I mean well, and there well, but there are other receivers are gonna be on them? What you guys, what's the alternative? Right? And there are a lot of alternatives. He was coming out and these guys us studs, right, they are STU stud now right, And I like Cobb. I want Cob back, right, Okay? Is is he he created? Yes, I gotta have copy. Right, you gotta have him back. But you got him on
a one year, sweetheart. Yes, we get him in the Quinn category of maybe he gets a bigger offer somewhere else because he has solid year. We'll see, but his age zero, so Witten's probably I think he's gonna retire. Uh, Cam Fleming, They've got an option if I can find better find uh same thing with Looney. You know he may be happy here. Sue of Field's coming off an ankle uh surgery. You know you might get him cheap. So you know that's that's Those are the offensive guys
in defensive guys. That's another resource that is plentiful. Yeah, which position, big tight ends, the tight ends, amazing tight ends. And those are the studs that they're coming out now. They're plentiful. You don't have to worry about that. You've got a wealth of resources in that regard. You want to me, I don't want to just keep and I don't want to be disrespectful for these guys. I want
people with more instinctive abilities. I don't care about the computer program and how fast and how strong they are. Somebody that's been known to make plays when when when their team needs it, not just a guy that can go out there when you don't need. I mean a guy that can go out there and be impactful in almost every game for his college. That's the kind of player. Mike Evans. What he was the Johnny Manziel Ceedee Lamb was throw it up and he made and need to
talk about run after catch. I mean, and it's a it's and I love Ceedee Lamb. You don't know you. That's a bunch of Cede Lambs out exactly. Yes, Oh my goodness, all right, Mickey's red is coming up next year. Up talking Cowboys. Since eighteen sixty five, Stetson hats are American maid with pride right here in Texas, and Stetson is proud to be on the field with America's team. Want to show your Texas and team pride too? You
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I experienced it. Yeah, I'm going to Yeah, and they're not getting to drop the water. Their mouths dry and it's just a couple of scenes. Yeah, yeah, be careful, Okay, bring an umbrella. We only have a few minutes left here. Hey. By the way, I want you guys. I want you guys to understand the royalty that's with us. Because on NFL dot com today they've got a list of the hundred best photos in the National Football League and the first one is ever Since the Cat the Cat. Nice,
You're welcome, Welcome. I laughed when I saw that all these these these photos, you know, the one of why Tittle on his knees and coming down his forehead and uh, Forrest Greg with mud all over his helmet and his face. And but the first one, what's the catch? I had another one. It's in the Hall of Fame. Uh, Philip Epps and I went against each other TCU, Yeah kid, talk to him once a while. Uh he ran at the corner without I don't know who the quarterback was,
didn't matter. I picked it off and uh I was in front of Epps and he was behind me, and we looked at symmetric. Oh really yeah, and it was black and white. So it's very cool. And that was in the like Buckier going up they submitted into the Hall of Fame. Like god, that was a long time ago. It was like cool. Yeah, So I'm in the Hall of Fame, guys, Just to be well, I'm in the Hall of Fame. I've always don't worry about bart Star and the ice bawl Jost saw the white clock. Good dude,
good dude. All right the last couple of minutes here. By the way, if you were interested in former Cowboys head coach Chan Gaily as the new head coach here, no, no, because he just got hired exactly. Jam Gaily is the offensive of the Miami Dolphins. I'm hoping well in the same page here, Jack del Rio, Jack del Rio, Okay, you want him as a DC? I mean he's going to wash Jack. No, he is already, That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm doing here, Jack. Ron Rivera hired him
just to throw him out. I thought it was nicky. I wanted him as the head coach. Speculation wise, this is a set up to the news of the day. Didn't you want people here? What you can't have? The del Rio is going to Washington to be Ron Rivera's DC. So do you want to play the Browns next year? Yes?
It's a setup. We've never even talked about their opponents for next year, by the way, you want to run them down other than the NFC East Cardinals, forty nine Ers, Browns, Steelers, Cardinals forty nine Ers, Brownsteers, Seahawks, Rams, Vikings, Bengals, and Ravens. Do you got home and away? There? The last ones were away? The first ones I did were home. Do it to get home home? Cardinals, forty nine Ers, Brown, Steelers, Falcons, Away, Seahawks, Rams, Vikings, Bengals, Ravens.
What's the record? Yeah, right, right now? What you realize the Cowboys played half the playoff field this this season. Of the teams they played, they played six of them first play schedules they beat. They were one in six against the teams in the playoffs, and that's why they're eight. So the two wild card games on there that aren't NFC West or a NFC North are um the Vikings
and Falcons. Okay, and Salcons finished in second. You get a second place schedule, but you gotta play Baltimore San Francisco. They got the Baltimore on the San Francisco. Let you get Cincinnati, you do in Arizona and then you got to play the West. Yeah. Yeah, And the rest of the division has to play those teams too. By the way, you can't sit from a position of luxury as if oh they'll guys, right, they'll be easy. Yeah, I don't no doubt. Then looking at us like, oh, cowboys, they'll
be easy. Yeah. The Jets were sitting there. We were saying, man, we gotta play Cowboys. The Cowboys. Look at it. They lost the Green Bay, New Orleans, Philadelphias. All right, that does it for talking cowboys for two thousand nineteen. Mickey, Wow, Well that's the end of the decade. Guys, many coming up. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
