Talkin' Cowboys: Dak to School

the Buy a week. We've got our normal crew back in the building as well, Patrick Nosey Walker, Isaiah stand Back of Kyle Yeomans. The trio was back, the Talking Trio getting things underway here on this Monday. Heading into week number ten and a rivalry for the Ages, the Dallas Cowboys will travel up to lambeau Field and take on the Green Bay Packers. It's the return of Mike McCarthy for the first time in lambeau Field. It's been a couple of years, but that's still a big storyline.

Everybody's gonna hit it, including us at some point this week, but it will be certainly a storyline. Gentlemen, how are we doing, solid, Ben? How is the bye week? Anybody doing anything crazy? Anybody travel to the East coast or do something like that, maybe go see family something like that. To saw some family in Raleigh, you know, had fun. Jett said, Yeah, it never last as you wanted to last. Yeah, which I mean, it'll never last as long as I wanted to last because I never wanted to end. Yeah,

you see that paradox. Yeah, yeah, so um but yeah, I got back in uh late last night, and we'll back to the ground baby, just like the Cowboys. This weekend. He took a little bit of time away from from the Twitter verse, which was nice. I'm sure I kind of tried to do the same thing, but yeah, doesn't necessarily work out. Constant break from Yeah, Isaiah's never on Twitter,

so he's on Twitter when he needs to be. You get a gift back and forth with one particular Yeah Isaiah, Like Isaiah's the Twitter that comes in and just only throws fire, just jifts, just boom, that's it. That's all he does. Get and gets up, I mean out in and out. He didn't the reply and surgeon gets up. I'm a freaking insurge your Twitter assassin. Yeah, you come in and roast somebody and then you're the I'm gone. That's it. You're dial stuff. Uh, Isaiah, would you do

over the break man? I worked on the house. Yeah, yeah, I got a shit so I had a bunch of house stuff that hadn't got tended to. You said you were going to hit that. Yeah, this week should get to you're all gonna write. I got to. It took me two days to get the ship organized, get all the patio stuff cleaned up and organized and pressure washed and everything. So now have another living space at the house. You have to pay additional money, just more place to

watch film, to get away from my kids. Tell them, tell exactly, have y'all put up Christmas decorations yet? No? I looked at him because I had to put stuff in anic yesterday. I looked at them and I thought about taking them down. I was like, heck, no, no, not taking that down yet even considering it. After they's giving me some ham and can you sweep and tat pound on my plate? Like, once I'm done with Thanksgiving, then we'll talk about See. I'm such a Thanksgiving stand.

I have this conversation every year with my fiance that she, I mean hers is November first, like Christmas music on the pillows are out like everything's just there and uh, yeah, no I'm not. I'm not really there. I like Thanksgiving. I'm okay with celebrating what you want to celebrate, because go out be happy, especially nowadays, do what you want to do. Be happy. However, Thanksgiving needs it's it's due diligence. That is one of the best holidays of the year.

This is I'm going to hit you with the d Q quote that Dan Quinn be where your feet are. Okay, let's not look too far to head. Yeah, let's not look too far ahead. Let's enjoy the moment. And in the moment we're approaching Thanksgiving, this is a month of thanks Let's let's use that ass such and you know

it's uh. The climax of it is when we get two, three, four plates of heavenly goodness in front of us, and then and then then and only then, as I'm in my food coma, will I begin considering are you cooking? I can get I can get in there. Yeah, I mean I know you can't. Are you going to It's a question you and your fiance I'm planning on doing the cook you're the cup. Yeah, last night I made and I was actually gonna show you this recipe. I

made a protein pasta, protein pasta. It is fifty one grahams of protein per serving, only two hundred and ten calories. And it's uh, it was only like ten carps. The Man out of Kingdom black bean. What is it? No, it's I don't know what it is. I don't. It's just protein pasta. But it's it's almost like ham. It's home ain't Hamburger helper. But it's healthy. Okay, it's really good. I'll give it to you. It's got like it's got like enchilada sauce in it. We didna pizza nice. Yeah,

it was really good. Now we have our patio space back, yeah it did. And baked pizza last night, and then we got we can't see those things given because not not today, but as we approach things him, we gotta have the you know, the perennial argument of Turkey versus Ham, and you know Turkey, I make two different variations doing in Turkey. We deep front that those are the conversations

that need to be had eventually, Like we can't skip over. No, but we're pretty sure that I'm the only vegetarian that makes two different turkeys. Really, he deep fries it too. You see the guys on Smoke, You see the guys on TikTok that are like dropping things and it's like blowing up. That's Isaiah definitely. It's absolutely you were You were not until he got he was not doing it. Yeah yeah, oh wait, all right, let's stark cowboys here

for a little bit. It's it's the bye week. We've got a little bit more time to kill, so we're gonna talk about with Thanksgiving and whatever. But Cowboys got the buy a week. Uh. We didn't get a chance, at least with this crew to talk about what happened at the trade deadline. And I want to get to it because we hit it with Brian, we hit it with Nate, and the trade deadline was disappointing for a lot of Cowboys nation. It really was, including I say,

standback is popping his microphone and read anymore. Don't exactly, but yeah, I want to get you'all thoughts on the trade deadline? Was it as disappointing as it was made out to be from a lot of Cowboys fans or was it just the right deal didn't go through and thus no move happened. Isaiah, I am able to disappoint it. You're disappointed? Yes? Why is that? Because last year we had a perfect example of Dallas being in a really good position, a really good position going into the playoffs,

and you're feeling good, You're feeling confident. Offenses at top of the league, defenses make it as the highest turnover margin in the league. I mean, things are going great, right, and then you just didn't have enough. You just knew that you needed something more. You felt good going into the playoffs, but then when you got to the playoffs, you're like, oh crap, we need more people. Right, So now all of a sudden, guess what, these are going good?

You've overcome the greatest form of adversity that you could imagined that you would face. This year, You're in a good position, right, record is good, and you're looking at the rest of your schedule. You're like, oh, yeah, we feel good about this. Why not ensure that you have more people when you have last year to remember that you didn't have enough people. You had a chance to pull the trigger on some people. I would imagine I'm not gonna not gonna gas and speculating all that jazz.

But there are guys, Okay, teams that are planning on being competitive in the playoffs made moves to strategically positioning themselves to have more people and have more weapons and have more goons when the time comes that matters most, when you need to win three, three, four games, that's when that's when you have those guys there. Yeah, and Dallas didn't do it. That's not to say that they didn't try. I don't know. I'm not in those meetings.

They tried. I'm sure they tried. I'm sure they tried. So did the Green Bay Packers. They tried to, but it didn't happen. Okay, So at the end of the day, you're stuck with the same guys, and that's okay. Now let's have some guys. I would have liked for them to be aggressive, step outside of themselves, outside of what the organization typically does. And when they say, oh, you know, we gotta make sure we protect our future. Hey, we gotta make sure we keep our draft picks. Oh we gotta,

you know, we gotta go. We got the guys, you do, got the guys, but get another guy. They go out there and just dominate. Okay, I'll say this, and I'll I'll try to do it without hogging the mic, so to speak. I like the attempt becut attempts plural, attempts plural because not all attempts are created equal. So if it was simply then putting out a feeler to the Houston Texans, for example, if it was just a feeler, that's disappointing. But it wasn't a feeler. It was a

full blown conversation that had legs and had traction. And I kind of said this on media match after the fact, I said, I wonder and it turns out that I

was right. I wonder if and we can't sell the player's name, but in conversations with the Houston Texans for player X, if those conversations kind of went left after Player WHY from Pittsburgh was traded and that that price was set, And as it turns out, reportedly Houston wanted a second and a fourth for player X and they refused to eat a single penny of a fully guaranteed

eighteen million dollars salary that's coming due. No right, So no reports have come out that the organization took a swing towards Denver for Jerry Judy, that conversation had a little bit of attraction, but the price couldn't be agreed upon. So I don't think that this was well, I'm pretty confident this wasn't a situation where the Cowboys were just kind of putting out feelers to give the illusion that hey, we're trying. They actually were, and these the prices that

were being set and paid. I'm out on that. I'm out only especially when I wouldn't he and hear your segue, especially when you have free agents out there that so maybe if said free agent wasn't available, we'll get to him in a few seconds, then maybe you're a little bit more willing to just break that bank. But that notwithstanding,

I'm not paying those prices, so I'm just not. It almost irritates me that they were willing to have the conversations with those teams about those particular about that one. Let's go over the Texas. Okay, the Texas. I was actually disgusted that they were having those conversations. Okay, I'm the guy sitting here saying that I wish they would have put a trigger on somebody, whether offensively, defense whatever.

I'm the guy sitting here saying that. But if they would have got that guy would have been hot because you just let a guy go last year. Yeah, so I would have been what you think we can agree that that guy shit. So don't don't talk about don't go talking to them about their guys amount of our

guy that we had. You know what I'm saying. When you had a guy who was in the building, who was doing his job, being quiet, being a leader, being effective, under utilize, and you let him go and you're gonna go talk to somebody who's making the same amount, don't

do that. Don't do which is why the only way it would have were in one hundred we were the same page, which is why, and I said this on Twitter, the only way it would have worked for me, first of all, second and fourth if that holds true, that's why pick a middle finger. Yeah. Um. But but on top of that, um to not eat any of that

eighteen million. No, just just absolutely not, because, like as they are saying, I mean, if you if you're willing to bring on a fully guaranteed eighteen then the question immediately becomes why why Michael Jackson style eighteen. Yeah, eighteen, and it would be it would be one of those moves where every ounce of Cowboys Nation would have said you were wrong. Therapy from from you would just admitted

that you were wrong. So from the get cold. Now, if the price was different, then that's a completely different conversation. But for that price, no, I agree. Also, now, hindsight twenty twenty, when Brandon Cook excuse me, sorry, a player X couldn't get traded. Then you turn around and all of a sudden he's not playing the next day. I mean that that's a problem. That means he's not in the right headspace to be playing. Well, he's pile sure,

he's pissed because he thought he could go to a contender. Yeah, yeah, you spent six months ago, you just signed big deal, big boy Country. So quiet, right, you just s and the Cowboys weren't the only team calling about so, I mean, the Houston Texas were in a situation where they had an out, in a situation that's devolving rapidly, just unraveling in front of them, and they could have gotten something for it. But you know, it's like my grandma used

to Grandma used to say you're smelling yourself. You're smelling yourself. You should have been more reasonable. Like I've told you guys before, that front office. I know that front office because the individual that runs that front Texas was my receiver's coach slash GM in New England. So any negotiating with him is going to be very, very difficult. So he might have found himself in a in a little bit of it. Would be interested to see how it all plays out, because this is not a pretty situation.

And now you know, we'll see if they end up partying ways with player X and not getting anything out to deal. So yeah, how about that? That'd bit crazy. But there are other options on the table. There are, so we've talked about it on this show before and I don't think the answer was resounding yes to go and get this guy. But it has been reported by multiple sources at the moment that Odell Beckham Junior is

firmly on the Cowboys radar. That is the report you've heard, murmurs, We've we've seen the list, we've seen the guys you strike out on the trade deadline on finding a receiver that could add to this receiving corps with Ceedee Lamb, Michael Gallup, potentially James Washington coming back into the fold soon, Jaalen Tolbert and so on and so forth. You forgot his wide receiver one. Oh no, no oh, Noah Brown. That's fair disrespect Yeah, sorry, very disrespectful. What does the

trade deadline change your mind? Yes? No about Odeha No yes? Um? Wait, so does my statements from last week okay, prior to you guys firing me for two days to another podcast kick you off. I think that he is an exceptional player. I think he is a generational player. I think he's overcome a lot in his career, no doubt, physically, mentally, emotionally. Um. I think that he's going to make an impact for

whatever team he goes to, if if he's healthy. My concerns with that particular individual are the leadership quidies, and as we talk about a room that lost a leader and seemingly still doesn't have one from what we can see, I have hesitation in acquiring somebody who has had issues in that regard. So if you have, if you have a little grease fire going on in your in your pan, okay, and that we call the receiver room just a little what's a little grease fire? But this is manageable. Okay,

don't pour water on it. Don't pour water on it because you think that pouring water on it is gonna is gonna put out your fire. You learn the horrid way that pouring water on a grease fire, Kyle sparks that thing up. So why do that? So your left in a scenario where it's like, crap, we didn't pull the trigger on any and now he who has the leverage, Now we couldn't find the fire extinguish. He has the leverage. We couldn't find a fire signature right before it got crazy. Right,

we don't have no flour all we got. Now it's freaking water and we got a grease fire. What are you gonna do with it? No, see better road, some dirt on that thing, Find some dirt, throw it outside of the Let's just let's put it plainly. Let's state it plainly when it comes to obj Um, this is not a knock on him as a human being. He's a good he's a good dude. Really is a good dude. Um. This is most certainly not a knock on his skill set. Skill set is phenomenal phenomenal, um. But it goes to fit,

it's to fit there. We talked about it before the trade deadline. Is this being a possible scenario? Um? And for me, if he's not getting his targets, I wonder if the dark side of OBJ shows up that the guy who wants the ball throw me the ball. And you're not coming into a situation where you're w R one, You're not coming into a situation where you're w R two. You are coming into a situation where you're fighting with

Noah Brown. Facts for the love of Dak Prescott and Noah had the inside track having been here for so many years. Now, I'm not saying he can't beat out Noah Brown. I think arguably he has a much better skill set. But then you also have to throw into the mix. Not only that, because if you're fighting for a wide receiver three slash four reps, that means you're not on the field for one hundred percent of the reps as you would see a CD Lamb or Michael

Gallop or near it. But also hashtag keep that energy for those that are wondering how long it would take Michael Gallop to get back to top form after tearing his ACO or Michael Gallop is in his twenties with one ACO tear. This is a thirty year old with two ACO tears, and he will be coming in on the back half of the season. So you might not even see him reach top form until closer to the playoffs, which matters most. That's that's great, but that might not

even time up correctly because he's not getting it. You know, Isaiah, the more you need more game reps, more game reps. But if he's fighting for three or four, then the game reps dwindle a bit. It's just too many concerns. It. Could he make an impact if they bought man figured out? Yeah, So that's the argument, right, So the argument is will he be impactful Absolutely if the Dallas Cowboys went that rout. Absolutely, if he's healthy and if he's in the mindset, in

the right mind frame. Right, nobody knows, right, I'm not in I'm not his at his house. I don't know what his mindset is. Maybe he's a lot more willing now understanding the situation. Jason Peter's train exactly right, So we don't know. We're going to go off a history. Okay, so he very well might have the right mindset, and he very well might be healthy enough at that point

in time. If those are things come together, then you're adding a valuable asset, valuable weapon at the time, and he'd be hitting the ground running by the time that you need him to be hitting the ground running. Right, That's why you would acquire somebody like that for the playoff frame. Right, Okay, your regular season is going just fine. Okay, So all those things add up to be positives. It's just the question mark on the what if. And I don't think it's a negative on I don't ob j.

I think it's passionate. I've been around some very passionate receivers. I played with Randy Moss and I played with Terrell Owens. Those guys are very passionate receivers of it just a little bit, Okay, they don't they perceive that as problem guys because they're so passionate about their craft. They want to be impactful. They don't want to just be a guy on the field. I think that's the same category OBJ is in. Not at the Hall of Fame. I'm

not saying that. I'm saying in terms of passion ships for the game I'm saying, he wants to have an impact on the game. He doesn't want to just be freaking present, right. He wants to actually get the ball. He wants to do something with the ball. He wants to have a positive impact on the outcome of the game. And that's the type of player you're talking about. He's not okay just collecting the check. He's not okay just

being a decoy. He's not okay just lining up however many reps a game and not having a true impact getting two three catches. So that's the individual you're bringing in and you have to understand, and I'm sure they do, what type of personality that is that you're bringing him into a room that doesn't have clear direction right now, because the guy that you're asking to be number one, I think they're starting to realize we put too much

weight on him. I think that's a good thing. What you're telling me about OBJ and his passion and wants. That's what I feel like he's missing in this wide receiver room. I'm not necessarily saying, yeah, you need some of that and the personality. I feel like it's the wrong word, but that fire. I mean, we kept them as the grease pan the fire right there. That's that's going on. I think he could be that fire. He

could add to that. I don't know if it's immediately a move that the Cowboys would make and then automatically they're better that I don't think that should be the expectation if they were to make a move like this. But would they be a better wide receiving corps at the top the bottom The answer that it would be yes. And here's how you get me to buy in fully on this. And we won't know. We would not know

until unless it actually happens. If if OBJ is more in the Jason Peters fold, obviously different positions, So Jason Peters, you can't rotate guys in on the offensive line like that. We talked about that set your offensive line wide receiver corp is much different, right, That's that's a free for all. Right, you go in there, you produce, you get your rips. Meritocracy, it's one of the true meritocracy. Autocracy is a position

in football. So if OBJ can come in and he says, you know what, I know him thirty I know him coming off of a second toWin ACL. I know that at least at the top two spots on your on your wide receiver corps. You have that locked. I'm gonna come in and try to fight for some of those reps. But I get it, you don't think you can fight for the number two spot at that point, at that point in the season. It's no, it's not like Michael

Gallops played ten games healthy by that point though. I mean he's only been around for a couple You're starting to see him and Dak make connections sure, so that their chemistry is coming back. It's a fair point connection between Lamb and Dak. They're coming back. You saw it in the Lions game or one of the Bears, I should say. And again going back to what I said, you know second toWin a cl you're gonna have to give him several games. You might not get prime O

b J until late December going into January. May never get and that's the possibility you may never get prime movie J. So all of this has to be a part of the discussion. And as long as he understands that and the expectation is set correctly, and he comes in saying, you know what I'm I'm I'm going to

try my best to compete for one and two. But realistically, if I can do my best and I'm producing enough to get three, then okay, you're not going to hear anything from me, But then you get the fire from him kind of pushing everybody in just his presence. Do you think Dallas has the money to pay him, Yes, yeah,

I don't. I do, but his price is going up because the trade deadline has passed and they're not the only team that leages he has He's he's number one when you go out there in a free agent right you said, Okay, now we're passing to trade deadline. We want to add more weapons to every team in the league that needs a wide receiver. It's going to has had an interest in obi Jo absolutely. Now what helps them out is because and I'm of the mindset, well, I was until last nights a game that Los Angeles

was still in play. I don't know if he wants to go into that situation now, but one of the other top teams that I figured would be in on him would be Kansas City. But Kansas City they trade for Kadarius Tone, so they feel like that's okay. So Kansas City is off the map. Now, now you're going up against teams like Green Bay and they're they don't feel like they're seeing talking about They feel they got to make a move and they might be willing to overpay to get OBJ up there. So we talk about

a desperate desperate teams going up. I don't think unless he really just wants to play here, but they might. But that might be the case. My question is to you guys, my Dallas historians, how has Dak done with that type of personality? Does? Is really the only thing I can think of, But he did. They got along very very well. Now of course, at the same time that was um, that was yeah, that was rookie Dack versus Alpha dis Ye, right, it wasn't Alpha Dack versus

Alpha did. So it's different. But now it's Alpha Dak um. So. I mean, it's an interesting interest in dynamic. But I mean, like you said, do the Cowboys have the money to pay them? Absolutely, they have more than enough salary cap to get him in for the you know, to finish up out and other teams to outbid. Mathematically, yes, the willingness has to come into play though, because it's a big thing. Because when you again and I say this

name Green Bay. They're in dire straits, and you better believe Aaron Rodgers, even though even though the loss against the Lions was largely Aaron Rodgers's fault. Yeah, he is in that front office right now, throwing chairs. Get me, somebody, get me, somebody, get me somebody. So that's who you're going up against. Um. So you know OBJ is sitting at home like Marlow from the wire. Probably the bricks going up, Yeah, no doubt about that. All right, interesting conversation.

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I don't even who Stephen Nicks. I'm never gonna okay, Fleetwood Mac. She's she's one of the singles Fleetwood and she had a solo. You don't know who Fleetwood Mac is. Oh, we gotta have a comment. Okay, never mind, it's fair. What is it? And I didn't I don't know. I don't for the g relationship. If he didn't have Doctor Dre beat to it, I probably didn't know what. Probably didn't hear it? Speaking of a beat to it? Did you see Isaiah's hype video from this week? Did not?

He was the voice of the Washington Huskies hype video. It's pretty sweet. Go check it out. Did you go full of Michael Irving? Oh? Bro oh Michael including the Mike Needs can Watch film? Yeah, what I'm saying, Michael's got some work to do. I don't know, Mike, he's He was really good, Mike. I didn't spit on the tea on the screen. He had the hood up. He was he had the swinging like boxing bags, the punching bags in the back and filmed about himself too. What

do you know about that? Mike never filmed himself. Come at me, Mike. They didn't send you a camera playmaker the challenges? Does me? Let's go play mecha? It looked good? I like, he won't go check it out. It's on your Instagram, right, she's on my ig. Yeah, it's on my ig. Y'all, y'all check out me. Check me out on ig. Where I'm at. I stand backs. I'm like, yeah, I stand by, I stand back, yem all? Right, Time to grade the first half of the season. Yeah, listen

to Stephen next. Please, first half of the season. I want three grades A to F. Okay, on three guys, We're gonna start with Dan Quinn, defensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys, based off of your expectations and the way they've been met to this point in the season. Into six and two, Dallas Cowboys. Patrick will start with you. Um, you know, even with the expectations being sky high, he's he's found a way to exceed them. So I'm gonna

give him the A plus. I wish I could just go ahead and give him back and him coming loud because because good grief, dan Quinn so so absolutely so A with honors, Yeah, A with honors, belledictorian. Just give him just the cord and everything, man, dan Quinn A plus plus plus plus plus, A plus plus plus. Yeah. Okay, uh you know DCUs, my dog. You know that's my guy. So but I'm going with a minus. I'm going to a minus. I'm leading a little little little space in there,

you know what I'm saying, NOC. The reason why I'm leaving a little spaces because we knew that last year there was a problem stopping the run. In this first half of the Stevens season, it still hasn't been resolved. So even though he's might he's here, I'm pretty sure if it he's made efforts to try to negate that

hole that was in the defense, right, it still hasn't happened. So, just like you were talking about Dallas making efforts, just how you talking about Green Bay making efforts and you know what I'm saying with the free agency, we don't give out dog gone effort awards around here. Okay, So DCUs my dog. He knows it and that's why he went out there and got been Hankins. Okay and Hankins all right, but I can't give him an A plus because they're still being exposed on the Russian side of things.

I'm sure that will improve, but to date, that's still the way that you attacked Dallas Cawtholics fair. I just need Jonathan every time we say his name this show moving forward, that is how he is being referred to. Okay, I'm I think I'm right there with you, because he's been fantastic. Dan Quinn has just capped offenses off balance. There hasn't been a game to this point in the season where you can point at it and say the

defense lost you the game. Maybe Philadelphia. There was a little bit of a murmur there with the back end of it, and I still I put that. I put that on the on the offense, put it on the quarterback, put it on the offense. Absolutely all right. So a minus minus, a plus plus, which is fine. What about Kellen Moore offensive coordinator. Where would you put him at? Because it's definitely not ALA plus. I mean there's a little bit more of a pause there. This would have

been a failing grade as recently two weeks ago. Wow, failing grade greatest talking like a D or like a straight school undergraduating great great sod So ce SE's not passing in grad school there you go, would say that it would have been below. I was always told sees get degrees, so I mean my stress level. And when I heard that, we talked about expectation, about expectations, We expect these guys to perform at the grad school level. Right, Um, it would have been a D as recently as two

weeks ago. Because he got away from the run in week one. It cost it helped cost the team that lost or that that game. He went to the run week three. Who Week three stuck with it, Gray started, the buoy, started to go up, Um went back down because he got away from it again, you know, so forth and so on. So Lion's first half stunk up the joint just offensive league, but from the second half all the way through the Bears game in totality for the most part, he's he's he's out a seat. Now

he's out a seat. Now. I've seen enough where I still have concern going forward as far as his commitment to the run and not, you know, getting two creative situations where he shouldn't. But I've also seen enough where I'm confident he can get the job done schematically and really tear up some offenses, especially as this offensive personnel his receivers start to get jailed and James Washington comes back.

Maybe OBJ whatever OBJ signed and he's part of the see right now for me, Okay, Isaiah, I'm gonna go with the sea right there. And since we're talking about grads see from no CEM finally got it, I'm gonna pass that se on to Keller Moore. I like Kelly Moore. I have high expectations for Kelly Moore more than anybody knows that. I'm always on killing Moore's head. Just no doubt I know what he's capable of. I think we all we're pretty critical on this show of Kellen Moore. Absolutely,

we'll give him his flowers when they're due. But for the most part, even when Rob and heckmo were on this show and then now No Ce kind of adds to it. We're critical of Kellen Moore because he's not perfect, no, nor has he been. But he can be better. He can be he could be amazing. He's fighting as Yeah, he fights himself. He fights himself and then that's I mean, he's still doing that. I think he's matured. I think he's slow trickling his bag like we talked about over

the past year or two. You know, he used to just dump it out. You know, we talked about him dumping out the legos. Yeah, you know, he's slowly taking them out. He's showing restraint, but he's still he's still taking the legos out of the bag and his hands is shaken as he puts it down because he really just wants to dump it out, but he's trying to pull back a little bit. I have to give him a scene just because the inconsistency, the inconsistency in this offense.

And I understand everybody's gonna say, oh, well, we just got Dak back. I get it. Okay, I get it. But you talk about week one when you had Dak didn't look good. Okay, we talked about Dak as soon as he came back oh, we pushed it a little

bit too close, right. There was a couple of plays and there are two to three plays that we who just gotta wipe your brow a little because you got a little lucky in the game would have been totally different, just because you're being so overly aggressive, overly confident, as Dak Prescott would describe it. Okay, and then you come up there and you beat up on the Bears. Can't you beat up on the Bears? All right? Good good talk. I can't give more because the receivers haven't done more.

I can't give more because they haven't been in position to do more. I can't give more because the running game is just now starting to figure itself out. This from where does offense fail last year to where they are now, it's a C. If I was grading it just on this year, I'll probably give it a B minus. Man, see, I still land one, but I still think i'd see if it's this year alone. But yeah, with the context of knowing what they were last year, I'd be inclined

to give him a d. Oh. Yeah, that's even though it's losing Cooper is not his call. No, you take a receiver point that's not that's not him, or at least from what we know, it might not be on him. I think it would be probably more so on the head coach in the front office for a move like that. D No. I think you got the context going from where they were last year to now. Yeah, but with it being just straight this year, I'd give him a C minus. So mister irrelevant, Yeah, I'd give him C minus.

I don't entirely disagree. I just feel like they're we should put a little bit of a curve on that, because let's assume it wasn't his call to get rid of Cooper. The team has already stated and we already knew this, they tried to retain Cedric Wilson. But the bigger bag in Miami, you lost two of your top receivers, right, you had like you didn't have four, You had like this, I mean you to have like three like most people thought you had like this four headed monster. Yeah, for

the most part, you lost two of those. And then you look at Kelling Mouren, you say, technically three if you want to talk about Michael Gallop, right, yeah, So, and then you look at Kelling Moon and you say, I want what you gave me last year. Yeah, that's good. Now, it's a good point. Yeah. So with all of that being said, what about Mike McCarthy, Where would you grade mister McCarthy head coach making his return back to his old stopping grounds, lambeau Field this week. Isaiah, It's a

hard one. It's hard. It's hard to rate a head coach that seemingly has a really good, you know, coordinators underneath them. It's really difficult. Um, you just gave one of them a sea going to the coordinators. Yeah, I mean, but he's still really good. He just hasn't shown it, you know, from last year. Um, I'm inclined to give McCarthy. I'm inclined to give him an a plus. Wow. Seem what he and his staff has overcame this year to

hold that ship together, to keep these guys focused. I know the feeling in locker rooms when you lose your you know, you you're one of your main players, not even necessarily your quarina, but one of your main dog out for that. Yeah, I mean when you lose that, I mean you talk about the camaraderie, you talk about the outlook, you talk about the inspiration all those kind of things go down the freaking shoot, right. Fans felt it,

this locker room didn't show it. So something within this organization kept them afloat something that's going on in that locker room, kept them focused, kept them dialed in, kept them detailed oriented, and they overcame. And now that they have their guys back, we're seeing the outcome of it. Right, So I have no choice but to give him an A plus because I've seen nothing else to take anything away from him. I'll give him the A. I'll take

the plus away. Well, I'll give him an A for everything that Isaiah just said, but again to echo his point you lose, to echo his point, but also to build up on the point that I just made in losing Amari Cooper and losing Cedric Wilson and the ladder of the Free Agency, and you definitely weren't expecting that. And then the organization and McCarthy they look at Keller Moore and they say, hey, we need the same type

of prolific offense, and Kellen couldn't do it right. So then they lose QB one Alpha DAK for several games. And on top of this, this is all happening following what had to be the biggest migraine of an off

season in McCarthy's career. And I know it's arguable because of what was happening in Green Bay before he departed, but let's say it's one of the most the biggest migraines because all he's heard all offseason Sean Payton rumors, and then when Dan Quinn was retained in the comments from Jerry Jones about of course everybody wants to coach the Cowboys and if you're McCarthy, you're like, come on, like, what's a guy gotta do? Like can I at least

get to the season and prove myself? And then just last week we're talking about McCarthy arguably being in the conversation, probably won't win, but justifiable he's in the conversation for head coach of the Year right now because of what he was able to keep the Cowboys from doing, which was stirred into the iceberg. Right, I'm not going to

add the plus now. Here's why I won't add the plus back, only because I feel like those times this season when Ken Lamore should have gotten this Pow Pow spanked one or two of those times it didn't happen. It should have and maybe the Cowboys only have one loss, right, I'm talking about Philadelphia, right, that's why they lost against Philadelphia. You saw Cooper Rush was not having a good amount let's call it what it was. He was having a really bad, bad game, and you kept tasking him with

throwing the ball. And by the time you figured out you shouldn't be running if Mike McCarthy. By the time Mike McCarthy went in there and spanked the power pow, Yeah, they started to come back, but too little, too late defense start. You really think they were gonna beat Philly like that? They could have, Yeah, they could have. Absolutely they could have. I think they could have too in

that game specifically, but they didn't. So disagree. So a I'll delete the plus only because I love how Mike McCarthy has kept the locker room afloat, and he's hailed Kelling more accountable. But hold him accountable one more time. You could get that plus back. You'll get that plus back. I'll make mine quick. I think you take a look at some of the teams that the Cowboys have a better record than Tampa Bay. They've got their quarterback just fine. I mean, he's had a rough year, but still got

their quarterback. Seattle they don't have their quarterback from last year. They've been bawling out with Geno Smith. But you're still better than they are. The Rams they've got their quarterback. Guess what, they're three and five. Green Bay they've got a Hall of Fame quarterback. Three and six. You play them this week, Gotta beat them. Can't overlook those guys. Arizona, they've got their guys three and six. You lost your QB one, you lost your guy, and you won four

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Seahawks doing some work at six and three. Tampa Bay is a four seed as they are leading the A or the NFC South rather and then five, six, seven Dallas, New York, San Francisco. Those are the three So right now you would play Tampa Bay on the road in your first playoff game. That's what that would look like. So is it one seed or bust for the Cowboys

because Philadelphia is two games ahead right now. If you have a chance to win the division, you may have to be the number one seed in the NFC because you play Minnesota in a couple of weeks. You would have to beat them to even be in the conversation. Philadelphia has already beaten Minnesota. That's Minnesota's only lost this season. So if you win the division, are you winning the NFC at the same time. I mean, are you the one seed in the NFC if you win the division?

If you don't, then you're the five seed. I don't think you have to win a division to the conference, huster. See. I don't think you have to win the conference and get the number one seed in order for the Cowboys to make a potential playoff run. Obviously, so you ignore the question completely and just go straight to playoffs, you're gonna make regardless. Ask it again. So I'm asking is it one or the other? Are you either the one seed or the five seed? Because of how good Philadelphia

has been so far? I think Philadelphia stumbles. Okay, oh there you go. I said this a couple of weeks ago. They're going to stumble. They're not going seventeen and no, they're not going sixteen and one. That they're not going fourteen and two. I'll give it. Does Dallas beat Philadelphia next time they face each absolutely, that's what you want to get agreed to and handily. And we'll get to that Christmas Eve. So I think Philadelphia is going to stumble,

and it's inevitable. And then they stumble, then the top seed is up for grabs, and you know at the same time. So it's the top of the NFC East, right because Philadelphia is only two games up, two games up right now, and I'll win over you at the same time, fair enough to get one of those back. You're gonna get one of those back on Christmas Eve.

The Giants are going to Giant. They're doing it right now, out right in front of us, right ATV Rise and the Commanders, you know, so close right, You like that, right, Kirk Cousins, finish you off when you had that, you had that. So yeah, the division is still well in hand, and you know, yeah Philly stumbles. What do you think you have a chance. You definitely have a chance. But obviously you got to take care of two really good teams, Philadelphia and Minnesota. So yeah, I and a desperate Green

Bay team. Yeah, they're desperate. They're desperate. They're very desperate, but they unfortunately the desperation doesn't get you victories, so you know, and they don't have the weapons to compete with Dallas. Just keep it one. See it's so wide open, is street? It really is. We talked about again hashtag keep the energy. We talked about how legit the Minnesota Vikings are. I guess what. They almost gave up. The gave up the goose yesterday in Washington, and yeah they

eked it out. And don't don't ever apologize for a win. So I'm not saying Minnesota should apologize where they win. But what I'm saying is these teams that you know everyone is saying is super contenders and things like that. You almost got dropped by the Washington Commanders. So you know that that game in Minnesota, a place where the Cowboys have played will at several times, looks a good bit easier. At Green Bay, it's in shambles right now.

All you gotta do is go finish them off right and wait, keep doing what you need to do, and wait for the inevitability of Philadelphia stumbling. It's going to happen. So Philadelphia schedule Washington, Indie, Green Bay, Tennessee. Those are their next four games, pretty pretty easy games, and then final five games New York, Chicago, Dallas, New Orleans, New York. So they played the Giants twice. They played Dallas, of course on Christmas Eve. And don't shake your head at

the Titans. Yeah they challenged the Chiefs last night, so got got all the way up there put them into overtime. So I'm telling you, Cowboys gotta play the Titans, right, But he primetime games, I'm saying, don't don't lump the Titans in with those bottom of the barrel NFL team. Beat Minnesota, beat Philly. No, that's all I beat green Bay, beat Minnesota unless you are you sitting up for Green Bay this week. That's the only chance they got this week.

They don't have anybody. We'll get into the predicative people. Yeah, we'll talk plenty about that matchup. We're gonna talk about that matchup. You know they're gonna be up to play because it's Mike McCarthy and there's a couple of guys that are still hanging around from the McCarthy era. McCarthy doesn't matter. You talk about it all the time. Confidence, I know, and desperation are two different scary bonsters, just different.

It's Dallas's very motivated when you're playing, when you love your coach, you're a plus coach, and you're coming off of a bye, You're well rested, you're feeling good, and you know how much this means to him, trust me, and it also helps the Green Bay. You're gonna be Green Bay. They don't trust each other. Those players don't. Rogers doesn't trust his receivers or his offensive. His receivers don't know what he's doing right, and they're tired of

hearing him throw shade while he throws interceptions. And the defense is just sitting there like, y'all can't get it together, and we're tired, and they're all looking at the hit coach and he's like, man, y'all can get me fired, So go get obd I like it. Here we go. We got a whole week to break it all down for you tomorrow. Here on Talking Cowboys, We're gonna give you the chance to give us some calls eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. We're gonna

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