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If you want to be a part of Talking Tuesday, give us a call. Eight eight eight eight y five two two nine seven. Be taking your calls shortly. But first it is over for the season for Dak Prescott.

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Kyle, Kevin Gates job is in the building, all right, So all right, check out more of the details on Dallas Cowboys dot com. We just got that published. It's up, it's live, it's breaking. Jerry Jones Tails one oh five three the Fan. The long expected procedure is actually going to take place on Dak Prescott to repair his partially torn hamstring on Wednesday in New York, which is where

Yep.

So that's where we are.

Yeah, we talked about it a little bit yesterday, just kind of the thought process behind Cooper or Trey. I actually enjoyed hearing his side of it of saying that you can't discount what he did when he went four and one filling in for the five games for Dak Prescott in twenty twenty two.

Of course you cannot discount it, which is true.

But I think we've all said this on this show before that it is a different situation than twenty twenty two. You don't have an offensive line, you don't have separations from your wide receivers. I think at some point, if the product can continues to look at or look like what it did against Philadelphia offensively, I think there will be a switch made at some point this season.

You just can't necessarily do that right now.

You can't say, hey, one opportunity, it's done, it's good, and.

Then we're gonna make a switch. Sorry Cooper. I don't think that's fair to him and fair to what is happening.

But oh, there's more news here regarding that wasn't the only thing that's not that's not it. You're ready for this, Okay. This season is quite literally the definition of Murphy's Murphy's low.

Okay.

So, Cooper Rush, Apparently Jerry Jones kind of let it slip casually as he was talking to the fan on that that fumbled snap that Cooper Rush suffered after the Cowboys got him the ball back and we talked about that that can't happen. Apparently he strained his neck on

I think that's the thing is Jerry mentioned the fact that there is a rope. The rope exists for Cooper Rush. He's not pulling the rope yet. But that's my question is how long is it? How long do you have until you see Trey Lance? And then Mike McCarthy I think alluded to it yesterday that they're in the process of signing a third quarterback.

Right so, as it stands, the Cowboys are expected to re sign a reunion. We like our reunions in Dallas, don't we will. Greer is expected to rejoin the Dallas Cowboys, but not on the active roster. He's expected to design to the practice squad, which means they will need to make a corresponding move because the practice squad right now is maxed out at seventeen if you include in Zel

Interesting, good to know you weren't here for the Will Greer drama. But there was some very emotion Yeah, there was a little emotional drama back and forth.

Interesting telling, all right.

So Greer had been fighting, fighting, fighting to get onto the field. Actually felt for him, Yeah, I did. And he's a really great dude, as you will find out in the locker room. He was fighting for a couple of seasons, two or three seasons to get on the field. Uh,

They gave him one final tryout too, with Trey Lance standing on the sideline.

They went up against the Raiders in the final balled out.

He went maniac mode and then it was a very emotional game for him, you know, teary type thing because he really wanted it.

That was a tough press conference. It was a tough press conference.

So, I mean, who knows, because you know, Trey Lance is not in the contract for twenty twenty five and we want to see this evaluation. It's not happening quite yet, so will Greer right now twenty twenty five.

So you're saying there's a cheat.

Hit, we'll see he is here. So there's the state of your quarterback room, Josh.

I want to get your thought process on on Dak season ending surgery.

Not necessarily a surprise, but now it's actually official.

Yeah, it's no surprise, it's it's I'm surprised it didn't happen last week. But again, Dak was trying to find different options because.

He wasn't quitting right, He was not giving up.

He was not giving up, and he was trying to do everything he possibly could to see the field again this year.

That will not happen. But I am in.

A way relieved that he doesn't have to play for the remainder of the year. With the way the offensive line is playing, with the way that you know, we were calling for him to be mobile and to pick up yards on the ground. Obviously it just didn't work out that way. It's it's unfortunate. You hate to see that again. To Dak Prescott, I'm I don't want to I don't want to put it out there that he's in the Romo years, you know what I mean, Like he's at the towards the end of Romo's career where

Well, obviously, I think, like Josh put it well where it was expected. I think that you know, could happen last week. But I think that it tells you how much of a competitor Dak Prescott is to be able to put this off and say I'm going to do everything I can and just pray that somebody tells me I can play and for some former fashion and some former fashion right, and so you know, obviously that's not the case. Obviously we're hoping for a speedy recovery and

Football is a.

Line of scrimmage game, and I think a lot a lot of the reason why the Cowboys have struggled the season has been because they've been weak at points at the line of scrimmage, specifically on the offensive line. I think you can look at this defensive line and they're starting to piece it together. I think these last couple of weeks, especially stopping the run, but the offensive line you've got pieces there. You've got Tyler Smith, you know you've got I still think Tyler Gouyden can be a

So awesome Richards exactly. Austin Richards played really well.

Cooper BB has had a great season as a rookie center in a position he's never played before. I don't think that's talked about enough. Cooper BB is never played actually trying to bring it up, and he's playing not He's playing it the way that he is. So you know the pieces are there, But I think you're still one or two away. And when you insert Dak Prescott back into that formula, I think things will bode well.

My only concern here is I don't believe that, and I'm glad you kind of pulled back on that. I don't believe this is the the sundown years of Tony rollmoy As far as injuries are concerned, but I can just we can go ahead and have a wake in a funeral for all of my hopes of Dak Prescott ever running the ball again. Probably he's never running the ball again. He will now be Payton manning back. He's never running the ball again. So that's more so than

We're done. I'm burying.

And like you said, though, building through the draft obviously that's something that we've always done. But you'd hope even with the whether it be a new regime or the same regime that we have currently. As far as coaching staff goes, you'd hope that they put a bigger emphasis on free agency. Yeah, because there are still really good guys out there in free agency that you could pick up to help enforce this. This offensive line tight ends wide receivers.

Yep.

Uh, there's a lot of wide receivers.

The thing with at least this upcoming offseason is they're they're going to.

Have a little bit more wiggle room than they did this past offseason.

That's because they got the Dak deal and the CD Lamb deal done, but not as much as you would think to go and just absolutely spin like crazy because you've got Micah on the horizon. That's going to be another contract that's going to eat up a ton of your cap. D ron Bland possibly on the timeline if they want to extend him and continue having his services moving forward, which I think all of us here would like to do.

Yep, there's a lot more on the horizon.

Tyler Smith too, I mean goodness, he's playing at an all pro level right now. He's the only one on the offensive line that you can say is doing his job and excelling at it at this point, so there might be a tiny sliver of wiggle room, but for the most part, it's still going to be a slow spending offseason, which when you were talking about that, and you're building separation from your wide receivers and you're revamping your offensive line, I mean, it's no surprise that on this show.

I love the NFL Draft.

That's part of my favorite part of this job that I get to do on a yearly basis. Start to getting a little butterfly feeling because it's like, Okay, it's going to be that conversation again in the first round. Is it going to be a wide receiver or an offensive lineman?

Again?

That's what it'll be in April. That's exactly what the conversation when we start the Draft show. Whether that's four weeks from now or ten weeks from now, it's starting to look a little bit more like four weeks.

From now as we go along.

But if whenever we start the Draft show, that will be the first segment of as we stand today, where are you going in the first round? And right now I'm kind of in between wide receiver and offensive line because those are the things you're going to You're going to have to build around your sixty million dollars on average.

Per year quarterback, and there's going to be basically going to be running a hole.

There's going to be a curve ball, not to get into the draft show, but you're going to get the curve ball of lack an Ashton Gentt.

Right. Sure, so, I mean that's what But that's going to make your conversation.

I think the astrion gent conversation would have been a little bit higher up in the in the calling card if you were picking in the early twenties or late but.

Not as you might sniff top five, you might be top ten.

Yeah, moving up, knocking on the door of top ten, right exactly.

You're at eleven right now, right, So yeah, I don't know if I'm okay with gent that high.

I love Ashley put A. Don't get me wrong, because we end.

Up having a draft conversation right now, just a.

We can have a draft conversation. No, we need to talk to talking cowboys too. But yeah, tell me was that thing yesterday about? Because we get to startry.

Yeah, we watched a little film yesterday, did you a little film.

Let's go all right, let's take our first break.

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Our first caller today on a Talking Tuesday, eighty eight eight five five two two nine seven, our guy Champ in Nebraska.

Champ, you're on Talking Cowboys. What's going on?

Hey, gentlemen, how we doing this morning?

Doing that?

Three? What's on your mind?

Good? Good? Oh my gosh, excuse me so much? And talks about with this team, Like, what a disciplining season. You know, we had three great runs the last three years and a lot of hope going into this season, some question marks, and it just all fell apart. I mean, the wheels have just fallen off the car. I have a huge question about the head coaching. I don't know why it feels like, well, I do know why everybody's on the Mike McCarthy's gone. He's on the one year contract.

Thanks, appreciate a Chandler, great job. Two great questions. I'm going to address the second one first and I'll leave it up to you guys here in a moment, and this is a fan asking the questions.

I want to let it be known because, like.

He said, we work for the team, and there's a little bit there, but I'm going to tell the truth in this factor.

I'm not going to sugarcoat this one bit tok effects.

Jerry Jones is still extremely calculated. Everything that he let slip in terms of one, O, five to three the fan this morning was.

A calculated move.

He's doing that because he's Jerry Jones, and because he does that, everything he says in the media is still exceptionally calculated. He's not letting anything quote unquote slip that he doesn't want to let slip. That news was going to come out at some point anyways, and so Jerry Jones saying it from the lips of Jerry Jones just allows for more eyeballs, more ears, more attention to the flagship station, all sorts of things like that along the way.

He knows how to make a national storyline.

We're watching our guy Isaiah standback on Good Morning Football on the screen next to us right now, and the bottom line is breaking news. Jerry Jones says blank. That's why he says it on the radio. There's nothing slipping three D chess. Yeah, and the Cooper Rush thinks same thing. It's the same exact deal. That's that's calculated. And there might be.

Things in the event Cooper Rush struggles. Absolutely, it was a soft pointing.

Of Hey, I kind of told you that he was dealing with something right.

Absolutely, and there are things that I'm sure the coaching staff and the team across the hallway would love to keep silent.

But at the end of the day, this is.

The Jones Families organization, That's what it is. And they're going to say what they want to say, period. And so if they wanted to be out there in the open and they want to use that as a nugget in their weekly phone call, they're going to do it like that's just plain and simple part of it.

Let me address a champ's first question really quickly, Coach McCarthy. Coach McCarthy, if if you bring him back, my question is who is your defensive coordinator?

What?

Al Harris?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I say that quickly, and I say that unequivocally because he would He was a top my list for defensive coordinators before they brought in Mike Zimmer and gave him the position. Al Harris has outright earned a shot at coordinating his own defense.

What does his defense look like?

Does it go back to takeaway takeaways?

And it is dan quinnesque with Remember he was hired.

By the McCarthy initially and was under Mike Nolan initially. He wasn't hired by dan Quinn. So do you think he would take that dan Quinn?

I think it's more dan Quinn.

I've had several conversations with Al Harris and he during the time with dan Quinn, he couldn't offer up enough praise for what dan Quinn was teaching him as far as the knowledge that was being imparted growing him as as a coach and the scheme that dan Quinn operated under that allowed for an exceptional pass rush as well as an exceptional defensive takeaway scheme right, And we're seeing right now under Mike Zimmer even though Al Harris got

But with this new.

Scheme, I see very little Al Harris' fingerprints, very few of Al Harris's fingerprints on this, and I think that's one of the things that the Cowboys need to get back to. So yeah, knowing how the front office works, they love their proven head coaches, coordinators, God, they really love them. They seem kind of allergic to newer, younger faces that weren't groomed by the organization, like a Kellen Moore or Jason Garrett, which is why I find it difficult.

Me another question though, if McCarthy is gone next season, does Al Harrison have that chance to become defensive coordinat.

I don't see why he would not. I don't see why he would not.

Keep in mind, depends on who they would hire.

Us agree because that head coach would have said.

Most of the time they would.

I guess my point there to answer that question would be if Al Harris and now granted the Cowboys blocked dan Quinn from getting Al Harris from the Cowboys, but that was because if dan Quinn right, he had Joe Witt. So if dan Quinn had offered Al Harris a promotion, then Cowboys could have done about it.

Right.

So I say that to say, if Mike McCarthy is out of the building, there's a love that Al Harris has from McCarthy having played for him as well in Green Bay. That obviously, realistically speaking, you have to entertain the fact that maybe Al Harris is gonna go with Mike McCarthy. But I've spoken with Al Harris and he's ready to take a leap. Okay, he's ready to get his own something, if that's his own defense, if that's his own team.

He's ready to get something of his own and breakout.

And I could see it be in a situation where he thanks McCarthy for bringing him into the organization and everything he's done for him, both as a player and developing as a coach, and then saying, Hey, if Jerry Jones and this new incoming hit coach is going to give me a chance to prove myself as a DC, I'm not going to say no to that. So that I could continue by tutelage under McCarthy.

Who would you pick?

You asked the question, But I'm kind of curious on who would be here, someone outside hire or inside hier which I would go.

With Al Harris.

I want to see what that looks like, because I think you would bring back the element of like Patrick just said, taking the ball away, and you would bring back dan Quinn's not available, but he is, you know, but the personnel that he was using. And I think Al Harris has a better understanding of that, sure comparatively obviously they work together for such a long time. I think he has a better understanding, and of course he knows the players that he has.

Yeah.

The only other thing that I could add an element to in that process is if they were to hire Al.

Harris as a defensive coordinator.

A lot of times that would admit fault on who they hired initially instead of al Harris In this last coaching cycle of hiring Mike Zimmer as the defensive coordinator instead of hiring who they interviewed for the job. Al Harris is the defensive coordinator. They blocked him, they kept him here, but they didn't ultimately end up hiring him moving forward. And this would admit, Hey, we were wrong the first time around. Are you wrong now over the

But I think the the evidence is that you bring Mike Zimmer in for one year.

Sure, they signed him for a one year deal.

Yes, I think that into a participate nice five million dollar.

Favor, Yes, exactly right, Yeah, a big favor from his partner. But I'm saying, like you probably did that for Al Harris as well. Yeah, give him a chance to learn besides somebody that isn't Dan Quinn and really develop who he is his defensive coordinator and give him that that promotion as well, you know what I mean? So, like, I think there is a part of the grooming process right to get him where he wants to go.

Would you think, Tommy, I'm completely on board with the I'm on board with the Al Harris for defensive coordinator train. Yeah, I think that you made a good point where it's his third defensive coordinator. So that's given him some time to marinate in a lot of different systems and a lot of different philosophies and a lot of different coaching styles. And I think that when you've got players coming in from different philosophies, different coaching styles, more often than not, that's going to.

Gel really well for you.

I think you still you take a look at all your options. You see what's on the table, like you do in any coaching search at any level, whether it be coordinator, head coach. But if you were to tell me tomorrow, hey, Al Harris is going to be the Cowboys defensive coordinator in twenty twenty.

Five, I'd be completely on board with that.

And I'll say this too, going back to Champs thing about Mike McCarthy and the injuries and whether or not that would be you know, something that you know gives him some extra time whatever it may be. Look, Mike McCarthy is a great head coach. I think I think he's a great football coach. You know, I think that his track record shows that he went twelve and five for three years here in a row. You don't do that by accident. Injuries are a part of the game

You want a Super Bowl riddled with any of you.

Want a Super Bowl riddled with injuries and a very good quarterback. But nonetheless, I think that what it comes down to in the evaluation process is how do you build off of those injuries because you know they're going to happen. Obviously for the Cowboys that has been at an unprecedented scale and unfortunate timing left and right. But

And right now as we sit, as Week ten is now in the rearview mirror, I don't know if you're in that boat. I don't know if the Cowboys boat is a float across the way or not. We're not in that locker room, but we can only tell from the outside looking in it hasn't been good the last couple of weeks.

And that's where these conversations are shit.

And it also depends on their definition of what is a flow.

What is a float? Is it strening?

Is it locker room cohesion?

Is it personnel?

Is it scheme? Could be what is staying afloat?

So yeah, all of that, you know, this has something to think about as we go into these last couple of games.

We do need to take our second break and get to some more phone calls. Great call Champ, just to provoke some conversation. The thought process here for me, when when it comes to Mike McCarthy before we go to this break, is the fact that, Mike, if you were to make a switch now, how does it help you further your franchise. I don't have a legitimate reason to do it right now other than the fact if you have lost the locker room, and I don't think that's the case.

I don't think he's lost me today.

That's what that was the first part of champs question was why hasn't he made a move yet? If this is going to happen in anyways. Yeah, the reason you haven't made a move yet is because he hasn't lost the locker room, at least from our outside vantage point looking in.

And if you were to do it, it's.

The same question Josh has asked, who's your interim head coach, who's your defensive coordinator, who's your offensive coord I mean, the whole staff would have to be redone in the middle of a season. I know you're not mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, but you're pretty much eliminated from the playoffs at this point in time. It still doesn't make sense, It really doesn't. And so that's why I don't think

Unless things absolutelyely hit the absolute.

Rock bottom and maybe below. Because they're going to have it. They're gonna give him a chance to try and get back to the top. All right, when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, a couple more calls. We've got Cynthia and Neby on the line. We'll talk to you right after this.

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What's going on Nebby?

Hey, guys, thank you so much for taking my call. Uh. First of all, I want to get this out of the way. Let's seek you guys were talking about you who you guys hate more the Philadelphia Eagles or the Washington Commanders. Well, for me, growing up, uh me personally, I have always uh believed uh uh that the Commanders were or excuse me, are the more hated rivals. So me personally, even though I obviously live in the DC area, me personally, I hate the Commanders more than I hate

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Let's start calling Neb's calls. Nebby nos ball.

To start calling his own segment.

I agree, a complete evaluation mode.

You've got eight games left a lot of times, in order to make the postseason in this seventeen game schedule, you need to win ten games.

At least maybe eleven, depending on what division you're in. And of course, if you've looked lately, the Cowboys are in a pretty good division. You need to either all eight of your.

Next games or at the minimum seven of your next eight games in order to make the playoffs. And it kind of goes back to what we talked about yesterday, like, if anybody is looking at this team right now and saying they're gonna win seven of eight, I would call you crazy.

I would absolutely call you crazy.

I love the optimism, but I also think Nebby brings optimism in a realistic standpoint of let's say, hey, it doesn't.

Go our way and you do lose on Monday night.

Like you said, there, it's a valuation time which could be beneficial to this football team as well.

I would argue that it's been a valuation time for this team since like Week four, and they just haven't realized it yet because they've been playing so much young talent.

And I don't say that it's a bad thing.

I mean it's evaluation from a standpoint of you get to see what you have while also getting these guys valuable. Will always be valuating, exactly right, but it's been more so just because the injuries that have come up and you've got you've got two rookies on the offensive line. You've got DeMar Fion over shown starting a linebacker for you what essentially is his rookie year. Caitlin Carson has

Well, we everyone knows I kicked into evaluation mode in Week four, not that far back, but I did say I wanted to see Trey Lance packages and going into that game against the Eagles, I wanted to see some Deuce Vaughn and some of these other younger guys that you haven't seen so that you could start the process. And then I said, if you lose against the Eagles, to me, it is a lost season. But again to Tommy's point, it doesn't mean that what happens from henceforth

And you know, now we'll expected to come back.

Let's see if will Grid is going to be a viable option. So for me, you know what you having, Cooper Rush, Now, I'm in start Trey Lance mode right now?

Okay, and then let's let's spring document.

It right and then let's sprinkle some will Gear in there. Let's just just have some phone with it while we're doing the evaluation. So that's the only difference between Neby and I, and that I agree with what he's saying. It's just that my full evaluation mode has already started, like it started more or less after.

You lost to the Eagles. Right, So he's willing to wait a week.

But to your point, Cayl, not only would you have to damn near went out in conjunction with that, you would need both the Washington Commanders and the Philadelphia Eagles to fall flat on their faces. The Eagles have shown that they can, but this Commander's team is just so red hot.

And then you look at who they're playing.

Yeah, they got the Eagles twice, so two head butts there, but you know.

They're playing the Cowboys.

They're playing the tight ends to playing the Saints, who are surging a little bit, but maybe they'll mail it in by then.

I want to get to Cynthia because Cynthia is a real one. Come on, Cynthia is one of our.

Favorite colle on Talking Cowboys because he's offered us to prove tex mex whenever we got the chance to go down to Laredo, Texas.

Cynthia, you're back on talking Cowboys. What's going on?

Good morning, guys. It's about time Craig got me on this year. Yeah, a female fan. Okay, we love it, We love it.

Cynthia. How are you.

I'm doing well. I'm sad. Okay, I'm not mad at the Cowboys. I'm not mad at anybody. You know who I am so sad for.

What's that?

It's Sekiel Elliott. I just it hurts me that he's done so much for so many years and now the situation he's in. I just wanted to say that I appreciate all those good times we had with him. Now I want to do out guy's opinion about is this is last year? Can you retire as a Cowboy? I would love to see that. That's all I have to say. Kyle. I just want to thank you because I met you last year. Yeah, when we played the Giants and I

Fan, Yes, ma'am, and I'll listen to y'all.

Appreciate you, miss Cynthia. Thank you, thanks for the call as always. Yeah, she was great. We were out of pregame life like we were last week and she came by and said.

Hie, I told you we met Tim by the way this past week, huge talking Cowboys fans. Tim came by the set, was able to say Hi, I took a picture of Isaiah and I and we kind of like gave him some freebies, gave him like a Waterburger hat and the Jack.

Black set, some little take me homes. But no, he was awesome.

Loved talking to Tim, Loved talking to Cynthia last year. Ezekiel Elliott, the conversation was made this morning with Jerry Jones and he said, we are not living in the past. With Ezekiel Elliott, he said, let it be clear, we are not living in the past. He's like, were currently in the future, I think present future.

Whatever it does that be? What does that mean for his future here?

Because we talked about it yesterday, Josh, you talked about ric O Daddle fumbles at the goal line. He's made inactive next week Hunter Lipkey line.

But definitely less it was Oh they were actually he was actually inactive. Remember, Yeah, he was sick.

Was over him.

Yeah, there was there was weather there there was a storm a coming. But then you had Hunter Lipkey last year who didn't get to touch the rest of the year. Ezekiel Elliott, who has had his struggles this year, gets the opening carry of the next drive. There's a conspiracy theory out there. I'm not saying it's what I believe, but they're saying that, hey, we're gonna give you one last carry, so your last carry is.

Not a fumble with this team and in this uniform. I don't know if I believe that's the case.

That's not his last carry.

I agree, but is this his last year?

That was not his last carrie.

I do not believe Ezekiel Elliott will retire from the NFL in twenty twenty five. So to Cynthia's question, you know, would he retire as a cowboy this year after the season He's I don't get the indication that he's the people to retire. He still thinks he can play ball and there's going to be a team that gives him a shot to do so.

I don't know that that will be.

Here in Dallas though, Yeah, that's kind of where I'm Yeah, I don't know that that will be here in Dallas. I think again, I said, I said it two weeks ago. Ric o'dowdo has earned the right to remain in Dallas in twenty twenty five. But you still don't know what you have in Duce. You kind of know what you have in Hunter, but we want to see more evaluation on those latter two guys. I just talked about you got to rebuild your running backs room, and I'm with

I mean, I don't think this is Zeke's last year playing football. I think this probably is his last year in Dallas, and hopefully eventually he retires.

With the Cowboys.

I would love to see that happen.

But if you just look at the statistics, I mean this year compared to last year, where I think the Patriots surprisingly had a more they obviously used him in better ways for his playing style currently and we are just not that team right now. I mean, if you even look at his rushing yards, it's over six hundred.

Last season, He's.

Only at one seventy at the moment, and we're a good portion through the season. I don't think he's going to get anywhere near six hundred seven hundred yards rushing, and he had almost one thousand dollar purpose yards last year as well. He's not reaching that because we don't throw the ball to him either. I just don't think that our play style is playing to his strengths in any form or fashion. I think it's a shame because I think that is a tool that.

You could use. He's a great athlete.

I just it's disappointing that the play calls are not going his way and the offense just doesn't seem to what he does with Ezekiel Elliott does. Now, what we've talked about even in the offseason, it's like, you can't expect twenty fourteen Z or twenty sixteen Zeke to come in and play like that anymore. You have to expect twenty twenty three Zeke, you know, in twenty twenty four Z twenty four and use him to his strengths. Yeah,

Football Yeah, I agree that I think there's still gas lucked in the tank. I just don't think the car is being driven right now. And uh, you know it's a bar I think.

That is.

I think I think I agree most with Josh's point about you know, this is unfortunately not twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, Ezekiel Elliott.

This is twenty twenty four Yeah, ezekiel A.

The unfortunate part about Time is that sometimes he catch us up to you and father Time is undefeated. I think you've told me that, how about a half a million times in the monk that I've been here. But it's very true, and you're seeing it across the board, even Zach Martin, if you feel like Time is kind of catching up to him too.

But no, I don't think this is Ezekielli.

It's last year in the NFL, and I certainly hope not, because I still think that there's some juice left there.

Yeah.

The bottom line is it's every once in a while you get back with the Knicks. You give it a shot, and if it doesn't work, don't wait until it gets to toxic.

Just let it go.

Yeah, I think this is one of those situations they got back got back with their X, and based upon the history, they were like, there were some good things there, We had a lot.

Of romance, We had a lot of good things happened.

But then this time around, after you got back with the X, you're like, yeah, we're two different people now, entirely so relationships.

Dude's that is the weirdest metaphor that's ever worked that well, Like that is the perfect metaphor, but it's also super uncomfortable at the same time.

It's because we've all been there.

Were you gonna add something there?

No, I just think that not to tamper or anything, but it wouldn't it be nice to see Zeke with a quarterback that has some escapability, some dual threat to him so that you could actually see him out in space.

Let me tell you about Trey Lance Bingle.

Allright, he might be better.

Maybe we'll be back tomorrow. Cowboys Defensive preview. Going up against C. J. Stroud and the Houston Texans offense, it does not get any easier for Dallas, and we're gonna try and see what happens. Defense has given you some things to build on, and we're gonna see if the Cowboys can take it another step forward. Maybe play a complete four quarters of defense, even whether or not the offense gives you any help as well. It's gonna be