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rap for training camp twenty nineteen. Cowboys fresh off a thirty four to nothing preseason victory Zephyr, the Governor's Cup? Does that count? Break up the Cowboys? Yeah? Over the Houston week we get the Governor's Cup on this one. I didn't see an after game ceremony or anything like that. I don't think that qualifies. But it was a heck of a performance by your Cowboys. I believe it was

the first home preseason shutout since nineteen seventy seven. You looked it up, Nick Eatman had that stat first shot out since twenty twelve. If I'm not right, if I'm old. Uh, yeah, it sounds right, sure Oakland. Okay, you know what happened in seventy seven man, Yeah, could be an omen mick or not. Let's not read too much into it. But well, we'll spend some time over the next hour kind of

looking into that game. Who stood out, who separated themselves, who might have made the team based off of that performance. We'll also take questions off of periscope and uh, potentially some phone calls as well. So Kayton got that number ready? I don't know. He ignored me when I asked if you were taking calls today. I think you did that on purpose, he did. We might not be taking Go and give your cell phone number out there, Robert, and you just gotta give everybody an opportunity to give us

a call. Sure, anytime now? You go first? Yeah, Rob's phone number is no. Who'd you like in this game the other night? Um? Pretty much everybody on defense? Defense playing pretty well? Guys, that first defense playing pretty well, Mickey, pretty pretty well. And it doesn't matter who you're playing against because they did what you should do, even if they got their slappies out there. Sure, so interesting word, he's not wrong. Get out there and do what you

gotta do. And when you can create that many turnovers and that much pressure on an opposing quarterback, you're you're doing something right. So yeah, I thought that was awfully impressive from a team. As a whole. You know, you can look at and say, Okay, Tacco did this, Tacco did that, Carrie Hider did this or that, But as a whole, I thought they played together. The backside, the pressure, the blitz is takeaways, you couldn't beat it. I mean, it was just a total performance. And as the head

coach said, we're not even close. Yeah, I think, to me, this is the second week in a row where your twos and threes were clearly better than someone else's twos and threes, which hasn't happened, not very often recently, Yeah, not very often. And you know those were two playoff teams, you know, the rams and then also then the detections. So the fact that you kind of took it your backups took it to them, and I was focusing on

you know this, This secondary continues to impress me. It doesn't matter who they throw out there, you know, whether Woozier and Brown Lewis whoever they throw out there a Lumba. I mean these guys, I mean Wilson, these guys are gone out there and made some plays. They've done a really nice job of going in. Mickey's right about how they've attacked people. Yeah, and they mean that the front has done in the Front seven has done a really

nice job those young kids. And I was talking to Rod Marinelli before the game, and I was asking him about I was asking about, you know, lining these guys up and now they still you know, you have he got an idea of who you're gonna keep and all that, he says. He goes, you know, no, He goes, no, Brian, I tell you, I tell you if I knew, And he goes, but I just want to see I got two more games. And he goes, And a lot of these guys are gonna get snaps. And I even asked

him about Taco and he honestly said, you know. He says, Taco is improving and this is for the game. He says, Tacos improved. He says, but I want to see Taco be tougher. I want to see more toughness from him. He goes, I've told him this I got I want more toughness from you. And you know, I felt like, though, if you want to take something away from what Taco happened to the game, he got hurt and came back and tried to play in the game. Old Taco would

have not done that. Old Taco would have gone over there and sat next to Britt Brown and Jim Mauer and figured out a way not to play the rest of that football game. But he came back in. Is it still enough? We'll see? I think some people have their opinion about what Taco is, but I know for a fact that there has been some improvement there. The coaches are noticing. No, is it enough We'll see here in about five or six days. Heck of a performance by him, and he's gotten a ton of reps in

these first three preseason games. It can't. Yeah, he did, and he's got a lot more competition. You know. It's funny because we were talking about George Selvie last week and how there was a point in time when Rod Marinelli was running this defense where they were signing guys off the couch to come in here and just try

and start in the middle of the season. And I think they've reached a point now where we're talking about you know, twelve thirteen guys that are like, wow, all these guys have at least enough talent to make an NFL rob. Yeah, their their pro department in college department is humming right now because they're doing a good job. And again that talks about continuity, you know, And I'll give Jason Garrett credit. I think Jason Garrett's one of

the best evaluating coaches that I've seen. I mean, it was with Parcels and guys like that, but as far as evaluating talent and know what they need, I think he does a really good job with that evaluation side of it. He knows what kind of get players. But it's continuity. You got continuity with the scheme, you got continuity with the coaching staff. You've got continuity that kind of helps you be able to build the team the right way. And you got a head coach that understands personnel.

And I don't give him nearly enough credit for his personnel the hat that he wears, because this roster is clearly better with some of his influence here. Well, it's better because oh they took Bill Jones's headset away. Oh no, Bill Jones is here, Katon Bill Jones is here, headset back, Yeah, he can listen to us for now, I can hear you. He could hear us, Sam headset Yeah, take a phone call. That's one of those phone calls that you got to take or else you're playing phone tag rest of the

Afterno glad you could make it. You know, it's funny I'm listening to I mean, we're just talking about Taco and stuff, and then I just looked down at the periscope and people are saying Taco got coverage sacks. They don't want to give a guy credit for I mean, his first sack was total effort. Sure, I mean he beat two guys to get to the go to get to get the sack. So people not again you have he even said it. We played the clip during the broadcast.

You either have people he's gonna he's got people either gonna be with him or people that are against him. So no, yeah, I mean, and I just it's unfortunately a guy can have a good two or three plays in a game, you know, but we we say, no, I was coverage sack. He's not that good of a player. He can't do that. I mean we've watched him now for a month just about he's gotten better you can say which he's gotten better and day after days been there.

To Brian's point, he's been productive in practice. This has just been a carry over to that. Now, Mick, do you have any kind of update on what is it was an ankle? I didn't. It was an ankle or knee. So when we left, when I walked him towards the training room, he said, yeah, I'm going to get it checked out. And I said ankle or knee. He goes yeah. Oh, he goes, I don't know if I'm supposed to say.

And I said, so, you're gonna throw the hockey term at me, lower lower body body injury and he goes, yeah, that's what it is, the lower body injury. He took a big shot on that knee. Hey, look, he didn't get coverage sacks before, right, Okay, yeah, he didn't get any. So you know he's making steps in the right direction.

And you've got to remember that if they get rid of him, either cut him or trade him, he's going to count three and a half million dollars in dead money against the cap immediately immediately, So be careful how you're cutting your team already. I don't know if people are saying they're going to do that. I think he made some comments after the first preseason game of they

were kind of cryptic. It was like very It was like, you know, I'm trying to dominate out on the field, but I talked to my agent all the time and we kind of know the situation, and you know, it was kind of like, Okay, what do you mean by that? Yeah, and I'm sure he knows. Look, he's looking at this step chart. He knows it's the it's the most competition he's faced since he's been here, the most depth they've had. But based on performance Promacy had the other night, I

think he's in position to make this team. Yeah, but a lot of people look at it that he's also at a position where he raised his trade stock. But again, when you look at those numbers, but yeah, you're right. When you're trying to sign a bunch of guys and you need all the cap space you got, you need to do it right. You better be careful. Just thrown away cap money. They don't care about Jerry's money, but cap money is important. I asked Mickey and it's the

ankle on Taco so ankle. That's what they're working on, all right, A lot of those lines at the defensive end position. Tyrone Crawford, Right, he's came off pup and so he's ready to go. He's a team captain type on this team. But when you look at the salary cap situation his now he would count for four million or so dead money if but it's six million that they would say basically that's his salary, his base salary

for this year. Yeah, set Tacos is guaranteed, right, That's why he's that's more later draft Crowfits is it guaranteed? First round? He's got two years left on his deal and right, But but anyway, I don't know. I don't know how you cut Crawfit. I don't either. I don't, But I wasn't. I wasn't trying to attack you, Bill. I understand what you were trying to maybe maybe if you're talking about moving money or giving money or saving money. I just think I think that they've got this situation

in a good spot with these defensive linemen. And if it means if it means Crawfits, you're start Okay, you got Quinn out for a couple of weeks because of the suspension. I have no problem throwing Doword's Armstrong in a game right now. I really don't the way I mean the way him if you'd say he could play as a rotational rusher. No, yeah. If Crawford starts and I have to play somebody at right end, I'll play.

I'll play Lawrence at right as to me Armstrong Armstrong at right end, but you're hider, but you can hide them at at left end because the first game you're not going to send to Marcus Lawrence out there and play sixty five snaps. No. I'm just saying, though, if if, if, if, people are talking about getting rid again Bill, I'm not

talking about it. I'm just saying, if you're one of these folks that's thinking, let's move on from Crawford, I understand if you want to do this in the in the spring next I you know, if you want to have that discussion, great, But right now he's one of my better I mean, I understand why he I never thought he wasn't going to start. I mean, everybody's like, oh, Robert Quinn. They traded for Robert Quinn in my opinion, because they had not signed Lawrence yet. That's why they

I felt like they were going to protect themselves. But I never thought Quinn was going to be the starter, right in. Never thought that he's the pass rusher over there. Yes, and then you kick Crawford inside to let him play with with Collins. Yeah. Now you got Kerrie Hyder who can also go inside and rush. Sure, absolutely, And and Tristan Hills starting to take some steps forward. He may have put the menu down in the in the dining car right now. Arnelly said something about him last week.

He noticed something different in his pad level, his technique in the second half the Rams game, right, and he carried it over to practice. So Hill Hill, Yeah, and that's part of a rookie evaluation. Can you can you get that technique down to where he can finish plays and you know, get up the field. He's getting a lot of reps he needs. He just needs a little confidence. And I think this game and did him wonders making

that play early against the Texans. I think it was their first line, how many although their first line is a lot like his second. Yes, I know that is a problem. Boy on talking Texans, Well, I was talking about that offensive line, especially at left tackle. I mean, he signed Matt Kale and he hadn't been out there yet and he didn't play last year due to a knee injury. And all right, so how many defensive linemen

are you keeping? Usually about ten? Ten? Yeah? I counted up the obvious ones and I got nine, not counting Robert Quinn because they'll be on the right reserve for quit weeks. Yeah, so the end, So you want to run down those obvious ones, I will stop from the top in alphabetic No, I guess it's starters, it's number order. How was that number order? Hyder, Tristan Hill, DeMarcus Lawrence Armstrong, Christian Covington, MALIEK Collins, Taco Crawford, and Woods. All right,

so was there a Joe Jackson in there? He was my question mark and jokes, and I think he's practice squad. Okay, so how many did you get that? That was nine? He got nine? Yeah, so ten with Joe Jackson. It would be ten with Joe Jackson. Quinn on two games suspension, got Quinn on two games suspension. Yeah, And then I

got to decide if Daniel Ross makes this team or not. No, but I think Covington, I don't see you there, right, No, I think I think I think your list is really good, and I think I think that it's either this is gonna sound crazy again because we just talked seven minutes about this man, but I think it's gonna if you're talking about the final two guys, it's Taco and it's also Joe Jackson. Those are the two guys I think

Joe Jackson is. I think Joe Jackson is either nine or ten on their list, fifth round draft pick who showed well, I can have them both right now? Yeah, right. Every time Jerry's asked about a young player, he mentions Joe Jackson. Ultimately does he make the team? Doesn't mean he will, but I think Joe Jackson's on this team too. Yeah. I mean, but then there's ten bas what the Cowboys owner's last GM says, Yeah, yeah, they love his motor,

his power rushing, maybe maybe some position flex. And so with those ten that included four D tackles meaning Woods, Collins, Cuddington, and Hill, and then you've got two D ends and Hyder and Crawford Russia. It's a good balance there. Yeah, you know where you get a four four defensive tackles and four defensive ends and two guys that can go either way. Yeah, I figured that out. All right, let's go. No, No, it's always about the flexibility with Marinelli and those guys.

It's just you know, hey, what do I Yeah, that's why I was kind of arguing, not arguing. I was saying the thing about Crawford. You know, Crawford is gonna play a lot of snaps for it. He's gonna help you at that right in be solid over there playing the run. He's gonna help you if you have to play the nickel because you could put him inside and run games with him where he's a penetrator and it allows these ends. You know, he takes the blocks because

he's got power. You know, he's gonna penetrate. Take somebody with him, and he's gonna get He's gonna get Jalen Smith home on a rush. He's gonna get Layton vandersh home on a rush. He's gonna get one of those in home on a rush. And that's why I mentioned Tyrone Crawford and his salary, because if Tyrone Crawford wasn't a player that they really liked and brought that kind of value that would be a salary that you could move and it would benefit the salary as far as

your cap goes and so forth. But he's too valuable. I think he's too valuable. I think people. And again I'm not I didn't think you were going down the line of cutting the guy. I think it was okay if you have to say, but I've got this defensive line like I want it, I do. And my point on it is, be careful the moves that you're making.

You've got a position of strength right there, as trade way a player or cutting a guy because oh, we got so many guys that we can make rooms someplace else all of a sudden, that position of strength and numbers, and it can be the opposite very quick. In this league. What year was it was maybe in twenty fifteen where they went through like twenty defensive line because of injuries. Right right now, I absolutely agree with you, so uh and who knows, maybe they keep eleven when Quinn comes back.

You never know how it works out. Yeah, And a lot of times some decisions take care of themselves because injuries do happen. And when I said last week on the show, you know if Noel Brown winds up starting the season on pop at receiver, Mickey had that from the word going, there was a good get Nikki, I don't feel like, you know, it has to be six

wide receivers. And I'm the first thing I'm thinking about is all these defensive linemen that are worthy of making an NFL team and so not necessarily Cedric Wilson and Devin Smith making this team. And they were just I mean, it was like they were competing against each other within that game, just back and forth, back and forth, and I don't know, I mean, it may come down to one or the other because they want to keep an extra guy somewhere else, maybe d line. There's a reception

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T Stadium. We had a lot of quarterbacks. You know, we kind of in the pre show we were talking about the Colts and they're in a situation where they might have to get an opportunity to draft. Colts have been pretty fortune in their lives. They've drafted Elway, they've drafted Manning, They've draft you know, I mean luck and luck. Yeah,

pretty good, pretty good run a quarterbacks. So the quarterback he stayed because his brother was going to be a freshman in Oregon, right, I forgot his name, Herbert's quarter Yes, Yeah, he's pretty good. Yeah, he would have been a first round pick, he might have been higher than on some of these other guys. Yeah, and we're getting all that when we get the draft show this spring. But yeah, that's a it's a really good class of quarterbacks that

overall around the country. So yeah, if you're a team that maybe needs one of those quarterbacks, and we'll get into that in springtime. Speaking of quarterbacks, Cooper Rush was pretty dark and good. He was good. Yes, he was good. He continues to do things to give you hope that if he had to play a little bit, that he could move the team function to give him a chance behind the first line and not have to get in there with all the other guys kind of running for

his life. And and if you just and he did it again, if you just watched the way he dropped back to pass, he looked like he was in command of himself, like I got this. You see the field pretty well? Yeah, And he was seeing and he wasn't rushing him. It was almost like the game slowed down for him. He's not afraid to go down the field and that's been the biggest difference between him and Mike White. Now, Mike White had a nice drive there in the second half,

that was the best drive he's had by far. But yeah, I think Jerry said that's the best he's seeing Cooper rush play, and so he's put this backup competition to rest. Yeah. I mean we've been talking about they're carrying two quarterbacks. We've talked about that. You know it was going to be when we started off in this journey in training camp, we talked about, oh well it is it two or

three quarterbacks. Cooper Rushes will be the second quarterback and then we'll see, we'll see if they may keep that Terran Christian. Yeah, but he can do versatile because he can do so many different Yeah. I think he's more a practice squad. I think he's no, I'm in a practice yeah. Yeah, no, no, but not necessarily. As a really started swimming, I was like, Okay to him, he's

gonna be he's gonna be Jamil Showers. You're gonna play safety play, you know, And it was kind of nice of him to let him least go out there and give him. I don't think they were gonna want him do that, to be honest with you, but they did. Mike White needs to play this whole game next time. You know, if you lose him, You lose him. That's

part of part you know, in another one. You know, isn't it interesting though when you look at what Cooper Rush did his rookie year in the preseason and and I think most everyone felt like, yeah, okay, he's showing a little something. And then it seemed like it seemed like maybe it just wasn't the opportunities last year. My memory is he took a step back last year, okay, and you had Mike White there, and now he's come

on again this year. So maybe with with him Mike White, all right, he showed a little something his rookie year, step back this time, and maybe I think he got spooped by Mike White getting drafted. Yeah, I think that effected. It's like, wait a minute, I was the I but basically made Kellen Moore a coach. You know, I may have played well enough my rookie year that they made Kellen Moore that guy. And then also, whoa, they just trapped a guy. And everybody's talking about Mike White and

this and that, you know, guys like myself. And next day I think it affected him last year, I really do. And then he came out he said listen, I've seen Mike White play. I'm not going to worry about Mike White any morning. He went out and started playing better. Yeah. And it made a good comment too afterwards about not worrying about the hole, just worrying about this play and this play and this play. And that's the way he played. And you know what he should have had. He should

have had another touchdown in that drive. If it look the umpire, I think he thought he was getting paid for how many times he threw his flag, Jeff Rice. Those a lot of flags during the year. I've never seen so many holding calls that you kind of looked at and you go, huh. And the one on Witton, seriously, I don't know. I was blogging the back. No, it wasn't. He pushed the guy. Well, you can't do that, but he had already. That's even blocked the guy for five

seconds and he finally said get out of here. The problem is he pushed him towards the direction of the ball. That's the No, he pushed him away from the ball. The ball was to his right, and he pushed him to the leg. Get into the call. Blocking the block in the back. It was blocking the back I couldn't thank you from the radio booth. It looked like blocking the back to me. Right, Well, when I went back and looked at on TV, didn't looked like a block

in the back to me. And and what say about it? Oh? He went running after the after you talked to me about Now after they scored, he went straight to the guy and talked to him. Oh yeah, well you could talk to Mickey. Are they could? It's preseason. There's always a lot of flags. Move on. If it costs him a game in September, then it's okay. I can wear my white hat. More takeaways from Saturday other than the

ump and jeff Rice had a rough day. Um, I think that we when before you here, we were talking with the twos and three did a nice job against there two second week in a row. We had twos and threes play well. I liked some of the stuff where I always loved the plays to Tavon Austin down the field like that. I love it when you know we've seen that before. That's one of those players where they moved the pocket, but Cooper Rush didn't really move very much. Throws the ball down the field. Rob said

it the back and forth between. I went back and charted those two receivers and how much special teams they played. Both of them were flyers, both of them were on the kickoff team. One was returning punts, you know, so you got they were trying to find opportunities for those guys. I felt if you said, okay, who is the better, more aggressive player on special teams when it came to the flyer's it's Devin Smith. Devin Smith has a little

bit better feel. But then all of a sudden, you punt the ball to Cedric Wilson, and now that ball is coming around the corner up the field, and all he the second one he could he could have busted too. So yeah, I think you have to look at Joe Thomas. I'm going a lot of different places. YEA one more thing on on on Cedric Wilson. Not only did he return one, not one. Well when he was catching. When he was catching the punt, you weren't sitting there going

is he gonna catch it? Because he looked like he had confidence in himself. Yeah, okay, I like the North South. Yeah, Joe Thomas is another good one. I mean, like Joe Thomas. We talk about how loaded this linebacker corps is and I don't think we always talk about the top three and we don't really get past that. I mean, this is a guy that started games in the NFL. If I was on another team, if I was on another NFL, if I was impersonnel, I would try. I would try

and trade for Joe Thomas. How much would you give up for him? I would consider give him up a fifth round pick for Joe Thomas, and I would not give up Joe and I would not because he can back up all three spots there. He goes see now that he's a core special teams guy there so quick. He should have He should also had a pick six in this game too, if your memory kind of under undercut a route and had both hands on the ball

and could have got there with it. But you know, seriously, if you want to watch guys play on defense and you're thinking, okay, how can we offer something to get us starter from you are you're always looking to try and get a starter. Joe Thomas starts in almost every scheme, every scheme he could play in. And then you said, and then you put in the special team stuff. You guys are right, they're not going to give Joe Thomas up after with you know Sean Lee being banged up

all the time. He doesn't cost you much. That's what I'm saying. I would trade, I would trade. Maybe I have to offer a third round pick. Joe Thomas kes me to get my attention, but I'll get your attention with a third Maybe where do you get c J Goodwin on this team? See? This is where I thought that c J. Goodwin helped himself because I had doubts that CJ. Goodwin could make plays and as a corner. The play he made on the first punt, the first punt coverage to tackle the returner, there was a great

play on his part. But I'm thinking, can this guy cover? Am I keeping a guy just because he could play special teams? Well? He went out, he gets the interception, He looked better in coverage, he looked more comfortable, he got to some balls. You know, I felt better about him as a complete player instead of just being a special teams player. Because I was trying to figure out, Okay, Donovan Alumba, how do I okay, how do I with

some how do I with Mike Jackson? Mike Jackson is going to be a big, big, big question mark for them because you haven't really seen him, you haven't seen him play, and it's it's the same. He does not have the same latitude as Connor McGovern has. Right, Connor McGovern is gonna well, but Connor McGovern's gonna practice today and tomorrow and then that's going to be determined if he can, if they're going to carry him or not. That's the understanding I have. So Mike Jackson, I think

he's on the street. There's there's basically six I think guys that are for sure in the secondary. And then I got question mark on Darren Thompson, C. J. Goodwin. Yeah, they'll tell you he's on the team. Mickey that Thompson, Frazier and Jackson. If we're talking about special teams, we just talked about what the young wide receivers did. Goodwin gives you a lot in that area. I'm sure Keith

oil Quinn would like to have him. Now, the question is how do you make it work and see and that whole thing about special teamer guys it now it's just I get it because we kick the ball out of the end zone and we we can directional punt and how how do you have to have these guy yet? Do you have to question do you have to have five guys on your roster just so that because they play special And I'm not busting I'm just saying here, that's the problem I have. It used to be special

teams coach. We're coming to me and go, we I've got to have this guy. I've got to have this guy got Okay, Then I watch him punk the ball out of bounce and then I watch him put it through the end zone, and I'm going, Okay, you got five guys running down the field that don't help me on. Here's what I love about this conversation right here is we've got a special teams coach right here who wants that guy out of special teams, and we've got a physician coach who wants to keep a guy, say, an

offensive lineman. Okay, We've got Mark Colombo here, and Mark Colombo saying, dude, how important are special teams? Now? Right? I have I don't get to keep an extra offensive tackle because you gotta have CJ. Goodwin. We gotta put McGovern on IR for the season because because you gotta keep a guy who might and McGovern might not help you, but I think I think that to me government play tackle, I don't think so, Mickey. I've seen him play center and guard at Penn State. I don't fee. I'll keep

saying it. They need a backup tackle. Well that that okay, here we go, now here we go. It's list fifty two guys, and let's try and claim somebody, or let's you know, if you're telling me, if you're telling me Jake Campos or somebody at the Buccaneers or Saints or Minnesota Vikings, I think I'm going that route. They signed Cam Fleming to a two year day. They did with some decent money. They did give up one of those defensive alignment for a tackle swing tackle. Yes, I don't

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options here. We approach cutdown Day on Saturday. Daryl Johnson was talking about it during the game, how impressed he is with the guys like the Joe Thomas's like the carry hiders, like the Christian Covington's college guys doing a good job that that the makeup of this team with those those veteran type players and Alfred Morris even you know where these are guys are right kind of guys who are great examples for the young guys coming in

on how to be a professional in this league too. Yeah, No, I think that you have to have you have to have an understanding of what your roster needs. And I think the Cowboys doing a nice job with going out and especially We've talked about this a bunch, the offensive line the way it is, the backups with veteran guys, now you evaluate your quarterback. Now you see guys like Jordan Chun. Now you get to see both receivers go

for tat on each other making plays. So I mean, if you if you don't have the type of roster where with those the mix of the young and veteran guys, you can't really evaluate your team. And I applaud them for that. I get more excited about watching the second halves of some of these games, these preseason games, and I know it looks crazy out there and it's holding

and whatever penalty is going on. But at least you're getting to evaluate guys this this next game is going to some jobs are clearly and I'm not just hyping it. There's some clearly some jobs on the line you're and some spots on the line as well. I wish someone would do some research on the number of players who get cut okay on Saturday, who eventually during this see what the percentage is of those players who actually will be on a game day roster during the season, because

I bet you that that percentage is way up there. Well. And so there are guys that are playing on Thursday, and people who don't follow it that closely is oh, these guys are gonna be working at home depot. No, it's not true, practice squads and stuff like that. Yeah. And the other thing about these preseason games not account it too much, but but the NFL does not have

a minor league. And basically what these preseason games, the second half of the games we've seen the last couple of weeks, and then the whole game on Thursday, This, in essence, is the NFL's minor league. R acts the XFL. I think the NFL has did a great thing by keeping the final cut being a final cut, the going down to seventy five and then going down there. No, I mean I wish I was involved where it was

keep all ninety guys the whole time. If you're a head makes it makes it more exciting to try and guys still have an opportunity. It does, And that's seventy five cut was so hard for head coaches because if you're not playing your starters in this last game, right, and you got to figure out how to get enough guys in the game to get through it. Well, that's how you decided who you cut, because you had to

keep enough guys able to get through the game. Sometime, this guy's not going to make the team, but I need an offensive guard to get through this game. Do you not think these agents today are telling these young guys that are probably not gonna get cut, Hey, you better put some good tape out there because you get a job in the XFL. I mean Ryl Johnson sitting there watching the question, right, no question, A bunch of these guys could get through the notes. He was marking

up his flip card. Did he wrap your your little board there? Yeah? I see you didn't go to the game without it. You know what happened last week in Hawaii. You know how bad the traffic was, sure, whatever, And so I get on the team bus. I look at my briefcase and all right, here all my notes. You're blocking your mic Yeah, all right, I think it's not filled out yet for okay, yeah, I left the hotel room.

I did not have it for the game that Yeah, but I've always I've always said the way I stayed for games and the way I used to study for tests way back when in college, if I wrote it down, I remember it, And so I put it to the ultimate test in Hawaii last week, where and I was pulling out things. I was like, wow, I can't believe I remembered that about that player. And the game was also over, like at one in the morning, right, so we probably didn't have the art because no, I was elbowing.

I'm saying, hey, Mill, don't forget this. Oh mickey was your Yeah? Yeah, so what did you do it this week? Yeah? You made the board? Oh sure, I've made you brought every time, and you brought with the key? Is I remembered to bring it? You had to bring it with you? Left it on my hotel room desk last week. So all right, final minutes here of talking cowboys. Hey Bill, Yes,

they're working out a couple of tight ends today. Tyrone swoops former University of Texas quarterback and then a guy named Zach conk c O n q U E is that con q is that? Would you say that? Are you that Cody McElroy stinger came back? Yes? So yes, And they don't want to play Witten in the game, right and if they're not going to play the other two about our Missouri Lucas to play sixty five now, no practice squad eligibly for Lucas. By the way, I can't imagine he'll move on. He's only been in the

league five years. He's been on ten teams, so yeah, that would make sense now eleven and two of them twice. Yeah. Oh, by the way, it sounds like Byron Jones is on his way back to practice here. Yeah, they've got officially move him off of pup, but he's still counts towards ninety if if he is back, and it sounds like he would be, guys, time crossing out right, they'll probably work him back in limited like they did tank and then they have to cut somebody. Okay, no, he resigned.

They whatever. Pep. By the way, Tyrone Swoops was with the Seahawks, yes, and he was waived injured and was on August third, released on August fourteenth, So I'm not what he's not sure what he had. But does that mean to back up deep Snappers out of here? Although then LP has to play the whole game. No, they'll figure out something. There's got one the other kicker, Yeah, the other kicker. There you get still you still want LP snapping? You have you made up your mind on

your kicker? Oh? Yeah, you mean Red? You know? No, you have you made up your mind on Maher? Oh yeah he's here. Yeah, okay, you've made up your mind. Yeah. See that that you talk about Rigo at this time, and you made up your mind on Bailey. H. I was worried, are you? I was worried they'd have the nerve to pull the trigger. But I was worried. There was a competition going on that none of us really knew. I did not know about the competition at all, and

I sat there and watched everything. I thought they were going to have to deal with it. Yeah, because he wasn't good in training camp and there were other things going on that he wasn't good with either, And so what Minnesota did they traded for that dude and he promptly went into the game and missed I think he missed the first kick. Yeah, yeah, vi vitick. How do you say it? You're asking me for I could know it for help. It's funny, Bill, did you pronounce the

the Houston quarterbacks last name? Correct? Correct? But what were you going with Tom Tomambo? I see, I can't say. I can't say it's every time I every time something happened in the game with him throwing. I was I was doing radio like the worst radio and just Georgia side old miss quarterback is what I was based on exactly. So ye, can I just keep a quick shout out to Trokeman. Here you go his tweet, I believe was it last night? Yeah, in defense of Andrew Luck's decision

to retire. I believe it's at like almost four hundred thousand likes right now on Twitter. Just you know, well said, do you have it? Uh? No, I could find it real quick for you. Just the first words, it's got a it's got a four lettle that many people liked it, then I think we probably would like it. Yeah, it's it was actually an eight letter word. Yes, but right here, but go ahead, motal bs, Doug. What qualifies you to

decide how someone should live their life? So you're now the authority on what motivates Andrew Luck and if his decisions don't fit into what you think is best for him, then you rip him. I guess that's what keeps you employed to f F one this one and here's the talks on Fox Crime right there. And here's the tweet that he was responding to from Doug Guttlie but from Saturday Night. Retiring because rehabbing is too hard is the most millennial thing ever, Andrew Lucky. But what's much beautiful?

The most beautiful thing about the Aikman tweet is the comment about FS one. Yeah he just took a shot because yeah, yeah, well, and it's yes, it's it's yeah, It's not so much that for me. It's just coming to the fence of a quarterback. And Aikman went through plenty of injuries in his career, and it's it's a difficult decision that that Luck had to make. Did you see Steve Burline what he yes, No, but did Burline

he ripped him for leaving his team. Yeah. Do you want me to read some of it out of time, sir? I know we are. But he did say he's a huge Andrew Luck fan. Yeah, he has been. But he put him in a bad situation, is what he he put He was talking more about the team, like, now, what do you do? Noway? Right? Can you have done this two months? His team needs him to make this run. I know rehab as tough. I had nineteen surgeries as a player, eight over two years. But he owes it

to his team. It's just a lower leg injury and it will heal. Just give it a chance if it doesn't walk away after this year. I think none of us know exactly what's going on with Andrew Luck, right, yeah, yeah, and we never have with the injuries. They've kept him so shrouded. Shaun Lee has a something to say about this too, you know, I mean Shaun Lee's but he's the same thing has happened to Sean Lee. How many

times is Sean Lee? We talked about him as being one of the great players in this franchise, and he in his career has been been marred with injury and robbed, and you know he probably feels like, wow, I mean I played ten years and well I only played five. You know, I really didn't play ten years here, I've

only played five. You know, maybe that's why he keeps going, because he figures he's fresh, that he's as tough a player as you'll find, that Andrew Luck is the toughest quarterback as you'll find, and yet will write whatever they say. He deserves me. On the sidelines are the people in Indianapolis that booed right, all right, they walk our streets. We got talking cowboys again tomorrow. We'll see you then. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.