Talkin' Cowboys: Confident, Not Cocky

Frisco in the SWBC studios. Welcome in everybody, as we preview the Cowboys defense against the Los Angeles Rams offense today. This is gonna be a fun one. Defense has been playing lights out this season, has only allowed one touchdown in each of the first four games, and they're going up against the reigning Super Bowl champions that are trying to get back on track offensively. Rob Phillips, Isaiah standback, Patrick No C Walker, Kyle Yeoman's with you as always, gentlemen,

how are we doing today? Doing fantastics? Well, fantastic, Go braves, Go braves, Go braves, go braves. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, big baseball guy. But also a quick shout out too, because regardless of if I like the team or dislike the team. MLBE histories, MLBE history. So it shouts out to Aaron Judge for a phenomenal and phenomenal is understand there's there were no adjectives to describe what we witness this season from Aaron Jof So shouts out to him.

I think he's going to be the first half of Billy Dollar player. You say he's gonna double up the offer they gave him. Come come up betting on yourself blank check and coming through check and even if it doesn't come from the pin stripes, wait from somebody. They offered him to fifty Yeah, offered him to seven years to thirty or something like that. Yeah, that's what it was, he said. He said, that's what is that? That's that's

reaching thirty five million dollars a year. That's not enough, he's Yeah, he's only gonna go win the Triple Crown and hit the most home runs in the history of the going to be getting paid at least sixty a year. Yeah. Now it's even crazier because baseball baseball is didn't get spot and I know this is a football podcast, but just gotta hit this real quick. Were you thinking should play baseball. Nick, thinking about it, you would be he'll

be playing, he'd be a part of that Mariners postseason righters. Baby, we'll talk plenty of about this in the future. But I mean you think about Aaron Judge and what he's doing, and then shoho tani. I mean he's got two hundred strikeouts and thirty four home runs himself. I mean those are two guys that baseball has not seen in hundreds of years, I mean a long time. At the same time, it's really really cool time for baseball. By the way,

gives me a platform to to go ahead and do this. Beamer, if you could take my my single camera here once again. I know this is a baseball show or a football show. It was not in the Rundown, No it wasn't, but this is this is a foot ball show. However, I realized last night that I have a family member, a long lost brother, Corey. We've had some great times. Corey, yeomans who caught the sixty second home run ball for Aaron Judge. It's been a long time. I just I

miss you. I think we need to hang out. By the way, I know you don't remember this, but you owe me fifty thousand from that one time he made it bet as a kid time to go. Yeah, that one time. But just hit me up if you ever need anything, Corey. That's all I'm doing. So you know how they always say, like when you make your money, your family comes out of the woodworks. So here I am. How do he make it home? The security? Did you like four cops or he walked about the building but

they didn't take him home. He's also kind of like social media. That's the thing about social media, Like now, like for the time he caught it to the time he walked out of the stadium, everybody knew what he looked like. So how did you go from outside the state? How do you go from inside the stadium to your car or to an uber or to whatever you're gonna do. I'm willing to bid you because you see what he

does for a living. He's well off, at least enough to the point where you know, security probably helped him. He's a p for an investment firm. Yeah, so security probably. He's definitely gonna say that's what I mean. He he's not giving that ball back and he was enjoying holding his you know, two to five million dollars, baseball and the beach by Friday, you know, as the Mets would know. We got to move on. But what would you do you caught Aaron Judge's ball, he asked for Hey, can

I get the ball back? Now? You hobously about my opinion now that what would I honestly, what would you do? Man? That's my ball where I mean my rubles. Life's been hard generationally, my paper, right, let's talk, Let's let's talk. Let's descut. I'm not giving it back, You're not giving it back. I love Aaron Judge too. I think he's a great player. But I mean, it's it's in my possession,

you know. Or honest I think I think I would agree if I would handed that over, like I truly believe that I would probably give the ball back, but I would just do it under the condition to say I I would hope that the Yankees would would would take care of me. I say, I would say, hey, I don't think I can hold onto it, so I'm gonna give it back to you. But I just in good faith, I will hope that you and the Yankees would take care of me. Handshake, I can hand no, no, no,

interference of opinion. No, absolutely, That's why I asked the question. But I just don't see. I'm a good man. Yeah, I don't, No, sir, No, sir. I understand my ruber. I understand the opportunities, and I think that Aaron Judge and everybody else understands kind of the sequence of events and how they were prepared for this, right. And that's why I say, hey, here you go, Here you go, bro, like, just take care of your boy. Let me ask this's the price of the ball go up or down the

more days you get from it the actual hit. I bet it goes down a little bit until it kind of gets to a spot where it's stagg and I'm sure it probably goes down a little bit. So I would sell it quick. It's what I would do. But let me ask you this. The Yankees never took care of him. The Rangers never took care of him. Nobody ever took care of him. He had to buy his own ticket to get into the building. And he caught the ball. I don't care what happens. Give me that's

my ball. Ball. You can have it back whenever I give it back to you. No, not gonna happen's talk. Same thing with the tom Brady ball that was given to him, the three hundred touchdown, that was like giving the fan. Yeah, he didn't take care that. He didn't take care of him the same point season tickets for like two years. Yeah, that's not it until if he

lives in text. They gave him what I think he Tom Brady ended up giving him like a big coin or something like oh congruens, yeah, which is worth and it went down. Yeah, and I'm not looking great right now. Scholars, yen, euros, rubles, run me all of it. Man's got options. Yeah, good for him. All right, enough for this, Let's talk news and notes. Dallas Cowboys back on the practice field today after an off day yesterday. We got some news about a deep snapper. Yeah, there's an injury we did not

cover yesterday on the show. Actually, we're went upstairs afterwards and found out Jake McQuaid long snapper, expected to be out for the season with a torn triceps. And if you go back and you watch the All twenty two, it's the last punt of the game. Uh, Derek Forrest, I think for the Commanders is punt rushing trying to block the punt and McQuaid kind of wrestles him to the ground and when he gets back up, his left arm is just limp as he's running down in the

field on the on the punt coverage. Still, what kind of he tried? I think he got about ten yards and fell down like this hurts. Yeah, now give him credit. So they are having to adjust, and they signed or expected to sign too long snappers to the practice squad by before practice Matt Overton and Tucker Addington. It's not alp. LP was not among the four workouts yesterday. I think he's really need to work out. He wasn't signed though

eighteen years in the league. Maybe not yeah now, but I think very sneezing LP gets signed winnings at the front door. Go hold on, guys, Yes, there's there's a certain there's record out there. You extra. That's a very important position, though very very important position outline because most people are gonna write it off as oh, it's just just a specialist. He's not even a kicker or a punter.

Listen here, the kicker and the punter don't get the ball right unless this dude snaps the ball accurately every single time. Much like the holder is important. I know Cowboys Nation remembers how important holder is. You don't do that.

I'm just saying the important. It's true, right, the just as as much as emphasis is put on the holder, the snapper is just as important because you need that ball to be in the same place every single time, because you are literally operating out of what's the term I'm looking for, muscle memory. Yeah, it is. It's muscle memory, not only as a snapper, but as the holder too, and the kicker and the punter. Everything's timing. It's just routine.

It's freaking routine. That's what I'm routine like. Everything is routine, Like you don't even think about it, like it's just it's instinctual. Well, it's exactly to the point that you're making, is what I mentioned on media matching, what I mentioned on the Heels of the Team parting ways with LP. For a lot of people that say, oh, long snappers don't don't matter, if they absolutely matter for all of those reasons. And you you're also talking about guys bearing

down on you and gunners coming. It's fractions of a second. So if you know the holder or the punter and anger have to do this or you know, to the left by a fraction or to the right by a fraction, up by If it's not then on every single time it messes up, the technicals watch close people are they blocking field goals and extra points almost every plane in Yeah, it's just watching how close? I mean you're talking about a tenth of a second difference and the most field

goals are blocked. Yeah, and it's it's the only position in the NFL too, where you can't mess up at all or you're gone. Like even kicker, you can miss a few kicks and they'll kind to stick with you if you have like two bad snaps, they're looking for somebody else. And that's why what LP did for so many years was so impressive. Man like you never and it was about it and it was perfect. You know, the phantom created penalty in Washington notwithstanding, it was perfect.

I mean Elpi had a perfect career and to be able to do that is inhuman. So you know, long snappers matter. And the only thing we can say is because Nui asked me yesterday, what's am I concerned? Yeah, I'm concerned until I'm no longer concerned when it comes to the long snapper. Now, I'm probably one of those people who are typically unreasonably concerned when it comes to

that particular position. But of course it goes to what you know, Isaiah said, fractions of a second routine and also trust between the holder and the long snapper, the punterer and the long snapper. All of that stuff has to be re established now with these new guys. And they've signed two, which tells you that they're still trying these guys out going into two of the more important

games as far this season. So I'm not saying hit the hanic butting over the long snap of what I'm saying is it is most certainly something to keep an eye on. I don't think it's happening. I know it's not. He's trying to chant l I was mad they took that that record away. It's not gonna happen. So they got two guys on the practice squad, expected to officially

be for practice and then they'll make a decision. Also expect expect McQuaid to go on ir and Will Greer, especially assuming Dak will not play this week, which hasn't been ruled out, but that's probably the expectation will greer. He's out of practice squad elevation, so they'll bump him up, sign him to the active roster. A couple more injury things. James Washington is eligible to come off IR this week. I don't think that's going to happen yet. Damon Clark

can start his practice window about this week. Talk about it, and I think that's a possibility. Hit it, Yes, talk about it. I excited. Isaiah's more excited about Damon Clark coming back than he was Jason Peter. Right, I can't wait to see long snap. Can Jason Peter's long snap. I just want everybody to go home and just google theman Clark. Google him, just google him. Don't look at

his LSU pictures. I want you to look at all the head shots that they have of him and a Dallas Cowboys practice uniform and just look at the intensity on his face and tell me that's not a man. That not that one. It looks pretty intense even smile, But looking at him right there, that's what I'm talking about. On the other one, talk about this one, right that one right there, zooming on that one, about that, yeah, zooming on that one and doing one shot on that

one beamer. I don't know if I can do that. You gotta make the bigger. That's a um. So this guy is intense. I've had conversations with this younger specimen. Jesus, that's a specimen. He's a large human. Yeah, he's a very large human. That's very athletic, very fast. I know I was standing on the table yelling for you know, Nakobe Deane before you know when the draft stuff happened. Very absolutely right. So he's a basically but the value that they got with him, first of all, kudos to

the training staff for what they discovered. Kudos to the obviously the front office for trusting the training staff and trusting the process and getting him taken care of, still drafting him, still getting him in surgery, all those kind of things, and then they're nursing him back to health. And now you have a very viable option adding more to DQ. You add a DC to a DQ, and you're just that much strong lizzard and you're getting somebody. Now, obviously he has to come out here improve it. He

hasn't had any reps, all those kind of things. He has to get his legs underneath them. All that. But he's been obviously working with the training staff and all those things getting back in condition. It's not football conditions, so he'll need a ramp up period. But I think that he's going to be huge, not only for the special teams because that's where he'll have the most impact immediately, but in terms of your packaging, what now can you do package wise if you add him to the active

right and you roll him in there. Now you talk about speed pack just you talk about being able to have guys at the second level that can run and hit. And I'm excited about this, and I'm excited for him because I remember came of conversations with him. He was beyond frustrated and he had never been a mirror. We had some conversations and I just told him, I say, if you ever need anything, just hold at me, because

I've been through injuries. Bro like the mental the psychology that it takes to overcome that, right, We've talked about it in the documentary, but it takes a lot. Yeah, and especially when you come in and you're ready to have an impact. I came in having had surgery, right and had to come in and learn and all that kind of stuff, So you feel like you're lesser than you feel like you're detached from the team. You feel like you're not a part of everything that all the

success that's going on. So that's what he's coming into. And he just wants to go out there and have fun and run around and play and remember who he used to be. Right and needless to say, I mean me being an sec guy, I've seen plenty of Demon Clark, just like I saw Pride to him, I saw plenty

of your real Clark, so forth and so on. Demon Clark is different, different, like a human being with that size should not have the ability to be that much of a quick twitch athlete, Like his quick twitch is ridiculous. His ability to read close and react is insane. And like you said, kudos to the front office and also the medical staff. And it's a it's a fantastic situation for Demon because he's coming into an organization that unfortunately

is well versed in neck issues. You talk about toron Smithy, talk about Lvee here recently. Now LV is out there playing just fine, knock on wood that he continues to do so, but they're not afraid to take a risk on a next situation. So now the procedure has been done, Demon is clearly ahead of schedule. There was something they were wondering if this was going to be a red shirt season for him. Obviously not. His window is potentially going to open us early as today, and if all

goes well, then he could in fact be activated. And now you're talking about Michael Parsons and Demon card. Oh, dan Quinn bar just goes on and on, and they look at who's playing in front of that unit, then look who's playing behind that unit. The rich get richer when it comes to dan Quinnon's defense, Ladies and gentlemen. Like he said, if google Demon Clark beyond just the intensity of his smile right, go back and look at his LSU tape. The kid is not even a kid.

He's an adult male and he is an absolute monster. And if he can hit his stride anytime soon for the Cowboys, I grief, Charlie Brown. I like the optimism, I really do, and and honestly, I'm there with you in terms of he's a good player. He was the top sixty guy from me prior to knowing about the injury. He was the number eight linebacker in my list of draft prospects prior to knowing about the injury. The injury gives me a little bit of pause, but luckily they

went in and cleaned it up. I don't think it's going to be an immediate impact because even looking at your guy, the Kobe d the Kobe Dan, he I mean, he was as good as anybody. He was my number one linebacker, number fourteen player overall. Guess what he's done in four games in the NFL. He said, one tackle. That's it. No sacks, no interceptions, no PPUs, no pressures, nothing. He's had one solo tackle in his first four games. Give it a little bit of time. I know the

hype train is there. I'm with you. I think he's going to be a good player, but let's not get carried away that he's going to be a game changer. If he hits they start the window, they give him three weeks to ramp up, and if he gets on the roster, like, yeah, I'm kind of with you, Like I think like it took Anthony Barr a nice little ramp up period, and I think he's probably getting Yeah, and he's a four time pro bowler and there's been no it's a it's a transition to the league plus

the injury, plus you know, ramping back up. So I think it'll take some time. But yeah, he had no business being a fifth round draft pick just now. I mean, I think long term, you should be really excited if you're a Cowboys fan. But really, if he's activated, um within his twenty one day window, I could see Damon Clark making some sort of impact, not only on special teams. I think he will make an impact on special teams

sooner than he would on defense. But I could see him making some sort of impact for dan Quinn on defense, you know, come December, when the game's really start to matter. Now, yeah, I mean, he had like al you know, I mean, it wouldn't be hard to have a career game as a rookie because you know, you have one. Say, guess what, it's a queer game. But I think he'll make an impact in some way, shape or form on defense as early as December, assuming that he saw that from Jabril

Cox prior to the injury. He was ramping up and getting better last year prior to him. Daniel Jones knows that got from season ending. Yeah, he does, Yes, he does. So really quickly before we go to our first break. So if you are on IR so to Mum Clark, James Washington, and you get out, you can be on the practice field for how long prior to the twenty

one days? So three weeks? Yeah, you have to be activated within that window, or if you're put on there, or you go right back for the season and you're done, you can't come back. Okay, So keep that in mind when especially with James Washington, He's probably not going to

start a practice window. He's probably gonna need that practice window more than anybody, right, I think from a wide receiver standpoint, we saw that when Michael Gallup took him almost three weeks to ramp up without actually going on to IR. So, all right, when we come back, let's take a look at how this Rams offense can challenge the Cowboys defense. There's a ton of weapons still on

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Kylie Eelman's glad you're with us. Chris Beam in the back as always, all right, Every Wednesday we preview what the Cowboys defensive matchups gonna look like wall to wall Wednesday, and they go wal to wall so far because they have not allowed a whole lot to this point. One of the best defenses in the NFL. But you feel like you're playing a sleeping giant, right The Los Angeles Rams right now coming in just haven't figured it out on offensees sound familiar, but their defense is still very,

very good. We'll talk about the Rams defense tomorrow. But when you take a first look at this Rams offense, what are your initial thoughts. I don't think it's as bad as what the La Times headline was this morning that they're a or Monday morning that they're a predictable mess. Just getting after Sean McVeigh. No, please don't put in the city of Angels, right, because you said it in the break like they're gonna figure it out. He's gonna figure it out. I think I don't think it's as

bad as it looked. I mean, I think protection wise, it was bad on Sunday night or Monday, but they got to the red zone three times. They moved the ball and they got nine points out of three red zone trips, So you left twelve points on the board, and I think they're capable of doing more than that. Although they're facing a tough Cowboys defense this week. They've got to get some more balance in their offense. And

it's not just the passing game. We touched on the number of targets to two guys in their whole offense. They got to get back to running the ball. And there were some some moments in the game on Monday night where you're like, I think Eli said it on the broadcast with Peyton, like it might as well be

a sack. You're trying to run the ball. They get some kind of balance going, and you get a two yard loss and they just can't get anything going between Henderson and Acres, and that's you got Matt Stafford throwing forty eight times that's not conducive for anything in terms of balance. See, unfortunately for them. You know, the Cowboys, they know very well that they need to improve this

run defense. And you go back and you listen to the sounds of the sideline, and one of the biggest things that I took away from that was DeMarcus Lawrence being upset that the run defense was not what it should have been up to expectations. So you have a team leader like that, a unit leader like that who's just beating the table all week in practice and meetings, basically saying, we have to make sure that we don't allow the Rams to get Acres and Henderson off, otherwise

our secondary is going to have a long day. So this is the Cowboys defense that also has been doing very well in clamping down in the red zone. You talk about the Rams only being able to convert those three red zone trips for nine points and leaving points on the field, Well, they are, like you said, they're going against the Cowboys defense that is routine ly stingy and that area of the field. So it's not going

to get any easier for the Rams. And then now you talk about the offensive line, which we mentioned on yesterday, really briefly, they were down to a backup center who is actually a guard moved to center, and Shelton Sheldon goes down with injury. Turns out he's going to be out for forty six weeks. He's not coming back, so it's probably going to be colony. Right, So, now you got a third string next to a couple of backups at arguably the most important portion of your offense, which

is the interior offensive line. If the Cowboys can just win those personnel matchups like they should and fairly I don't want to say that the E word easily, but fairly handedly let's put it that way, then the Rams are not going to be able to run the ball and that's going to force Matthew Stafford into a forty five plus yard or forty five plus attempted game, and that plays right into the hands of Dan Quinn and

this defense. So looking at some of the top targets that have been against the Cowboys so far, Terry McLaurin last week, two receptions for fifteen yards, so shut him down completely. From a Cowboys side of things, I'm not even gonna look at the Giants weapons because I don't know who you even tab as their number one guy, Jamar Chase in Week two against Cincinnati or five receptions fifty four yards, so he's still got a decent chunk, right,

still decent but overall, yeah, very good. And then week one Mike Evans had five for seventy one and a touchdown, really the touchdown, and there was like one drive in there where he had success. For the most part, Dallas has had a really good done a really good job on the edge of slowing down these top targets. Why is this different though? With Cooper Cup most targeted in the NFL by like fifty targets since Week one of last year over Tyreek Hill, He's had two hundred and

eighty seven targets since Week one last year. Tyreek Hill is second in the NFL with two hundred and thirty. Cooper Cups still getting his yardage, still getting his receptions even though they know the football's going his way. Why is that different than some of the other opponents of Cowboys have faced, Because you get Cooper Cup can run routes from all over the place, and him McVey puts him in so many situations to be successful. There's it's

really hard to scheme him up. If you go back and watch any of the film last year, this year, or whatever year you want to in regards to Cooper Cup. This dude's outside, he's inside, he's stacked, he's on the ball, he's off the ball, he's out the backfield, he's in motion, he's shifted. You don't know where the hector's dude is that so you can't scheme him up versus Mike Evans, where he's gonna be at outside, jamar Chades, where he's gonna be at in the slot or outside, Like, it's

pretty predictable in terms of game playing. Okay, if he's outside, this is what we're doing. If he comes at the slot, this is what we're doing. Cooper Cup. There's so many, there's formations you can't even you got to create names for. Let these guys come out in and they're doing it just because you can't. You can't scheme him. You can't. You can't in and out him, you can't man and man him, you can't zone him. He's gonna get the ball. What you want to do is it is simply just

make sure that he doesn't get behind you. That's the biggest name of Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup's gonna get ten catches. He's gonna get ten catches. Cut are gonna throw the all to him fifteen times, and it's just it is what it is. Yeah, twenty times and the nineteen times last week. So you accept that there's certain guys that are just going to get the rock because they're just that good. Cooper Cup's the top five receiver, much like

Mike Evans and March. Those guys are really good. But those guys are limited because of how they utilized within their offense. They're able to make big plays from those particular positions. Versus Cup, he make plays from anywhere. How does Dallas combat that though? Keep them in front of you, keep them in front of you, and like you said, stop the running game. You can't shut I don't know

at the time anybody's ever shut down Cooper Cup. I mean, it hasn't happened since last year, That's what I'm saying, Like you, just it's hard. It's a hard guy to shut down. He's everywhere, and you just accept the fact that, Okay, he's just keep them in front of us, let him have the ball. Just don't let them get past of your hard markers, right, Yeah. Because the great example is the last drive in the Super Bowl, Like everybody knew

where it's going in it didn't matter. And that's why part of me's like nineteen targets, will I kind of get it, like he is always open, I mean ninety five percent of the time. The guys he's he's created space. Even when he's not open, he's open. Yeah, But the pick six at the end was a product of you don't have enough balance in your offense, and they Sanrancisco knew where the ball was going, and they a great anticipation and they are random play a thousand times that day.

So that's one of the reasons why that the times are probably getting on McVey right now, because not only did they not distribute the ball evenly enough throughout all the different options they have on offense, but they were running a lot of the same type of plays. They ran a ton of screens, a ton of outside screens, so it was very easy to read. Those indicators were easy for the defenders. He's gonna have he's going. Mcvay's such a competitor, he's gonna mix it up, right, So

you just want to limit what they can do. Shut down to run, keep cup in front of you. Don't let Al Robinson getting no dog on confidence, because that's not the guy you want to get confidence this week because he can't hurt you. Right, he has shown the ability regardless of what he's done this year. He's still quick, he's still explosive. I don't care what the reports are about that guy. Just don't let him start catching a ball.

Is this kind of a long time coming sort of deal for Sean McVay though, and Matthew Stafford Because you look back at the start of last year or all of last year, Matthew Stafford was tied with the most interceptions in the NFL with Trevor Lawrence. He threw seventeen picks last year. Now he threw forty touchdown passes, so it makes up for it a little bit. But he had seventeen picks last year, tied for the most. Right now he has the most with six in four touchdowns.

He hasn't had a season where he's thrown more interceptions than more touchdowns since his rookie campaign with the Lions back in like oh nine. So is this just finally teams are starting to read it. I know last year he threw the most amount of interceptions and they still won the Super Bowl. But is this something that's a problem for the Rams that's even bigger than what the Cowboys are going to show out this week? Well, I think you're writing that Stafford will throw it up. I mean,

he's done it throughout his career. He's gonna take chances. I think I think the pick at the end was a product that was a safe throw. That's just like I think copy at nine times out of ten. Yeah, and a lot of those screens. I think you look back to the Washington game against the Cowboys, they screened a ton and it's because they didn't trust their protection and they're trying to get the ball quick out as fast as possible. And I think that's some of what

McVeigh was trying to do in that game. You look at the one that he almost got picked in the end zone to Higbee. You know, if he missed a lot of throws. He did miss some throws, and if he on that one though with his progression, he might have had Henderson for a touchdown if the protection was there just a tick longer. There's probably about three throws that I could think of right off the back in that game where he just wishes he had that ball back, Yeah,

because guys Higbee was wide open. I think couple was opened on a few Like there was a couple of balls where just like Dang released the ball wrong, you know, and it's like those are yeah, I mean, and they happened, right, it happened. But those are plays like they're leaving plays on the fields. So I don't want to make it seem as if these guys just they're just trash, are terrible. They their offense is not clicking there at the bottom of the league, and every dog on the category offensively

right now. That is the total opposite of what we've come to know about the Rams and McVeigh and Stafford in his time with the as a Ram, he's gonna he's missed some throws as a competitor, as a professional, you go back and you make those corrections. As a defense for the Dallas Cowboys, you want to continue to

do what you've been doing. It every other team forced Stafford to be in the same situation he was in last week where he wanted to where they had to change offensive scheme because he can't sit back there and throw the ball. He has to get it out on the edge. Just they have to get the ball out of their hand quickly. You shut down the running game. You limit them to, you know, to these type of quick throws. Now you can start a process of elimination

in terms of what they can and can't do. I know, as a defensive back, I can sit at ten yards and come downhill because they're not gonna have the ball have time to throw the ball beyond me, right, So you want to limit them in that regard so that you can start making plays. Dallas does what they've been doing,

they'll be perfectly fine. But you still have to respect the fact that not only are these guys capable, we've seen it, and we've seen it last year and they've had a lot of change offensively in terms of offensive line. You guys just touched on that. They are hurting there. You know, nobody's talking about You're wet Worth either, Yeah, to retirement and that that's what you need is if you're the Cowboys, you need to make sure that you understand when it comes to Matthew Stafford, you need to

shorten his clock. If you shorten his clock, he will give you the ball. If you shorten his clock, he will give you the ball. That is that is the blueprint from Matthew Stafford. And you talk about protection or lack thereof the reason they're leaving plays on the field, it's it's not by accident. It's because the clock has been shortened, so he doesn't have time to go through the progressions to see what he's seen later on film. All guy, you know, I should have hit Higbee here.

I should have. You know. The reason he can't in real time is because guys are bearing down on him. This is also a Cowboys defense that has yet to allow twenty points in a game. This plays into the Cowboys favor because, first of all, again respect the Rams and what they can do, because Matthew Stafford could easily come out of being an all pro on any given Sunday. But this is how you keep prevent that from happening.

But also this Rams defense or offense, I should say, they've only scored twenty points or they score twenty points fewer, and three of their first four games ye ten points

or fewer. In two of those first four they're simply I don't know if they're asleep, or if it's a combination of them being asleep trying to jar themselves awake, or if it's simply you don't have the horses up front to give you the time to find to let Cooper Cup get behind you, right, because in order to run a goal route, to get behind your safeties, the quarterback needs time in the pocket to deliver that ball.

And when you don't have it, those goal routes, those would be goal routes, didn't become hooks and flats and screens, and the field starts shrinking vertically and then you can tee off. I think you nail that. I think that's what's happening with Carson. Carson Wentz has guys that can make plays down the field. They just didn't give them any time the last couple of weeks, and Marcus Mosher put out on Twitter, I think their lowest big play team,

the Rams are right now. It's sixteen explosive play so far. That's that's a product of the protection. Probably and we've met I think you teas Alan Robinson and he's a new guy in the in the offense, and they just maybe it's just a matter of connection nut clicking yet. Yeah, I've got some really interesting stats about how this RAMS team is different than what it has been under Sean mcvagh in the past, and I'm gonna hit it on

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All right back here, final segment here talking Cowboys. Chris Beam, you just heard him, Rob Phillips, Isaiah standing back, Patrick Walker, Kyle Yeoman's all right. With the Cowboys win this week, Sean McVay will be under five hundred for the first time after Week two or later. In the entire time of his tenure as the head coach of the Los Angeles Rams, he's never had a losing record. Actually, the worst record he ever had was in Week sixteen of

twenty nineteen, he was eight and seven. That's the worst record he's had as the Rams head coach after week two. So it's been a while since the Cowboy or since the Rams have been under five hundred, and the Cowboys could get him there with that moving into this week now, you also talk about the way that their offensive line

has not been playing well. Rams currently have a minus twenty four point deferential in twenty twenty two, after having a positive point deferential through four games in each of the first five seasons under Sean mcvayh their lowest prior to this year was plus thirteen, So that's what like a thirty five point difference thirty seven point difference something like that. That it's different now with Sean McVay. This doesn't look like the same team. Where's the weakness of

that offensive line? Patrick? Because Dallas is going to get after teams. We've already seen that through the first four weeks of the year. How are they going to get after the rams? Well, WHI should terrify the rams is the weakness. The biggest weakness is not simply the interior of the offensive line. It's more specifically the center position, which is critical, critical to making sure that I mean, you talk about time we were talking about the long

snapper situation. You talk about your quarterback having trust in the center and that particularly on shotgun formations, that that ball is going to be there timely. The cadence is going to be understood. Asaiah spoken a lot about cadence

this season. All of that stuff matters. And now you're you're going to your third string center, and when that third string center walks up, he's trying to over He's going to over process because he's trying not to make a mistake, which is why he's probably going to make a mistake. Now that could be a poor snap, whatever

the case may be. But not only does he have to make sure that the timing and the rhythm that he understands Stafford's cadence correctly, but he also then has to understand that once he flips his head up, look look who he's staring at. He's staring at Neville Gallimore and ohso Diggi Zoua and Quentin Bohanna and Chauncey Ghost

and and good luck young man. So I don't I think that you look at the interior of the offensive line for the Rams, you look at the center position, third stringer coming in, who's not you know, that's not his base position. That's a major major problem in Stafford already. You know quite as it's kept maybe loud as it's uh. He doesn't trust those guys up front, and you're seeing it on film. And now you're gonna throw a third string center in front of him against some horses from

dan Quinn. The trust is going to the trust level is gonna go down that much more so in week five. And you know the pork chop is tender in the center. Cowboys just have to eat a hole through it. Ronnie, Yeah, yeh, I got none for you. Okay, why these guys are in a bad position and Dallas Cowboys in a good position. It's just you had something last week whenever Washington was in a bad position. Tell me, tell me about him. No,

I mean they're just like you said. I think that you have to be conscious and cautious about coming in there, like like sleepy, Joe, don't be don't be sleepy walking in here to play them at home with their backs against the wall, with the city against some with a super competitive coach, super really with really good players offensively and defensively. They have their problems, right A lot of teams have their problems right now, injuries, whatever it may be.

But you're talking about the defendant champs, so put some respect on it. Not only are they defendant champs or defendive champs with the same coach, the same superstars, they added more superstars and they're playing at the crib where they won the Super Bowl. So you don't be confident, don't be cocky. Yeah, you know, be confident, don't be cocky. And I heard I think was it King Griffey Junior yesterday was on the Pivot and he said, what do

you say? He said, confident is is knowing that you're good at something, and cocky is when you feel that you have to tell everybody, Yeah, just just just know just going there and know that you're good, know that things are clicking, no that things that are on the up and up. Go out there and they're they're wounded, they're wounded, go out there and expose it. Usually it's teams that have a target on the Cowboys back just because the brashness of the brand and the visibility that

they bring. But are they even able to be confident and or cocky either one after the three game waiting streak? Have they earned that right yet? I don't get the sense that anybody on this team is cocky it. That's kind of what I'm thinking. I mean, that's kind of where I'm leading. I don't think they've earned that right yet, especially to go up and be too confident and overly confident against the La Rams who just won a Super Bowl, right.

I mean, there's been times where the Cowboys and Dak has even said it, where they've you know, they kind of feeling themselves a little bit when they've gone on a win streak. It's happened before. I don't think that's the case, because I think it shouldn't be the case because clearly offensively, there's things that they are limited at.

They got they got some continued issue, Like there's things you can point to this Washington game where you're like, hey, the protection up front, the running game, we couldn't get that going defensively leaking a lot of run yards. They need to get more takeaways. Like there's a lot of stuff on film that even dan Quinn can point to and be like, we can be better at this, better at this. There's a ton of room for improvement, even

on the defensive side of the ball. They shouldn't be cocky, they should be confident because I think they know they're good. But yeah, Isaiah's right, like, you gotta put respect on the rams. This is not the first time that people have said Sean McVeigh has been figured out. It's not the first time, and they'll be back. He's probably one of the most I mean, you think about the most creative, ingenious minds offensively in the league, you mcveigh's name comes up,

no doubt. So for him to be at the bottom, and you know how competitive he is, he's whether he was the youngest coach youngest head coach or whatever is at some point in time, this dude is he's confident, he's freaking competitive, he's infatuated with the game. This is not what you're talking about young coaches. And I guess I'll make this comparison. Was a Klingsberg? Was the name

was Kingsberry? Yeah, King I can't say his name, Kingsberry disrespect Okay, in Arizona, both young coaches, both offensive minds. One of them you just hold in a high regard, right, one of them you just holding a high regard because you're like, if this dude gets knocked down, like dang it, like watch out, Like he's probably gonna be pissed off. And this like if there if there's any coach in the league that you feel that way about, is this guy right here? Yeah? I mean McVeigh isn't figured out.

I mean that he continues to prove that time and again. But it kind of goes back to a hearking back to our conversation about Brian Dable. Right, all right, you have one of the better brighter football minds in the NFL that you're going against. Respect that respect, that respect that at the end of the day, personnel, and it matters until it doesn't matter, and it doesn't matter when

it comes down to personnel and execution. And you you saw McVeigh throwing some of his players under the bus in the press conference after the loss of the forty nine is by basically saying, the guys we expected to step up didn't do what we wanted them to do. It right, you got to love it. But at the same time that tells you that to a large degree, it matters the scheme and all of this, it matters,

it matters, it matters. But if your horses are not built to stop these dogs, then your horses are going to be sandwich meat. That's just what it comes down to. And there's no variation at any given Sunday, caveat any given Sunday. But there's nothing that I see personnel to personnel wise offensive line of defensive line. And then you throw in Michael Parsons in the world's wado for Matt

where's he at? Where's Hett? And Michael Parsons, by the way, hasn't had a technical sack and I'd say technical a technical sack in two games. He's not cocky, he wants he's out for blood. This defense wants to improve Tank they were up. When he was frustrated about not stopping the run. He wasn't over there like, oh, well we're up, you know, let him have no He was like, we

have to stop the run. This defense is just monstrous, and they're going against an offensive line that is exceedingly porous, and there is a quarterback behind that offensive line that has shown you when you shrink his clock, he will get view the ball. This is a winnable game for the Cowboys in a stadium that should be heavily populated with Cowboys fans, even with the Super Bowl champs in town. They're just there, what seven eight weeks ago? Yeah, yeah,

we were. So I'm glad we have this conversation now because if you were going to overlook a part of the offense or a part of the Rams, it would be their offense. And Sean McVay is gonna pick that up and it's gonna be there. You're gonna have some challenges. You cannot overlook the Rams defense. Though they've been playing really well, they're gonna be tough to get past at any point throughout the season, especially this week when you're still trying to get back on track on your offensive

side of the football. We're gonna preview that matchup tomorrow right here on Talking Cowboys Special thanks to our friends at Black Rifle Coffee Company. Go check them out at Black Riflecoffee dot Com. That's it for us today, for Chris Being, Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand Back, Patrick, No See Walker. I'm Kyle Yeoman's We'll see tomorrow with more Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.