Talkin' Cowboys: Checking Boxes

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how are we doing? I'm doing fanes Isaiah. I don't know if you know this. What's that? I've got a little secret for you, okay, And this is also a secret for everybody that's out there listening to the Talking Cowboys because we think of you as family. Oh, we have somebody among us today among us that's basically our own version chef of the Adam Schefter show of the Inn Rapp Report, show of all of these Garofalos and the Pellace arrows, And what are these these jokers that

wish they were Patrick's right? Goodness? What are we talking about here? Fellas? All right, give me the latest thing you've heard. I don't care if it's gonna get you in trouble or not. Just tell me I care, Okay, So we're gonna lead with this. First of all, this is one of the best what would Rob do moments? Because News and Notes leads with the Cowboys have reportedly agreed to terms with impact veteran safety Donovan Wilson. Again,

this is per multiple report. Still working to confirm this upstairs, but it looks as if Donovan Wilson has been secured and has secured his bag on a three year deal reportedly worth upwards of twenty four million dollars. So a key piece of dan Quinn's defense remains in North Texas. That is one of the bigger things that the Cowboys were trying to work on as far as retaining in

house free agents. Now they can turn their attention to trying to finalize something on late In Vanderesh, which is another guy they've been working on for the past several days. But it cannot be overstated how important it is to

keep Donovan Wilson in this build. And Lee Tackler came into his own really in year two but had some injury, the peck shoulder injury that kind of slowed him in year three, and his second version of breakout of his breakout season, which was year four in twenty twenty two, he just took it to another level. And I think at some point last season I finally used the word elite and I could not be more proud of this

young man. I have been. I am on record if you follow me on Twitter at Voice of the Star, you know, from the moment the Cowboys selected Donovan Wilson in the sixth round in twenty sixty, I said that he was going to be the next elite safety for Dallas if they allowed him to develop. And they did. And you're talking about a guy who also did it over the course of multiple defensive coordinators and multiple defensive assistance.

Rather it be Chris Richard slash Rod Marinelli. He went through the Mike Nolan stage and then now he's with dan Quinn and he's just he's prospering. So kudos to the Cowboys for getting it done, Kudos to Donovan Wilson for showing the potential. And he's not done. I don't believe he's done it all. As far as between the lines, I think he still has a couple more gears to show. What do you think about the signing and just how big of an impact he has had because he brings

an element to this offense. All right, excuse me to this defense that the defense has seen in decades. I mean a safety that's going to come downhill and hit the way that he does as a heat seeking missile. You haven't had that on the Cowboys defense in time. No. I love his versatility. I think he was a necessity in terms of obviously this is one of their first moves. He was a necessity in terms of bringing him back as a cornerstone. We like to use that term around

these parts. A cornerstone part of this defense and dan quinn system. The versatility that he presents, the tenacity that he presents, the intensity the motor all those things, right, are really indicative of who he is as a person and as a player, and that is what you want the character and the identity of this defense to be. He is the model citizen of that. You know, he's the mannequin in the window when you walk past the Nike store. You know, he's that guy for them. Regardless

of his size. He's not the biggest man in the real but he plays like it and that's what matters most. And I think that the fact that he not only brings that that ferociousness to the defense, but also the versatility that he provides dan Quinn in terms of the various looks as we know dan Quinn makes running these three safety sets and things of that nature. It's huge for this defense. So check one offer the good guys

they were able to retain. Now turn your head to other guys and see what the next move is and real quick, because I'm so excited about Donald I said twenty sixteen, twenty nineteen. But the Jaguar is staying here.

And for those that don't know, that's what Michael Parsons calls Donovan Wilson the Jaguar, and over the course of the season last season, speaking with Donovan Wilson on several occasions, speaking with Mike McCarthy, speaking with Dan Quinn, just anyone that I could speak to about Donovan, and with Donovan, I could not have received higher praise about Donovan Wilson. But more importantly, not just because of what he's doing

on the field. He's the consummate pro off of the field, no red flags off the field, no issues outside of building and in the locker room. Just he's kind of the silent leader. Right If you'll ever walk into the Cowboys locker room and you see Donovan Wilson, he's real silent, he's real quiet, kind of goes about his business. He has a great error about himself, like you can tell he has that good air. But he's not the talkative guy. He's not the guy that's going to say a lot

of words to try to motivate. He motivates with limited words and a lot of action. And you could see it Rubbie nolf on other safeties like Marquise Bell who came into the league last year, and some of these other guys, juan Ya Thomas on the practice squad. So this is the kind of guy not just as a player, but as a person that you want to make, like Asaia said, a cornerstone of your defense. So could not

be more proud for both he and the Cowboys. So last year, whenever free agency happened, there was a bit of a whirlwind, and the Cowboys of course moved on from multiple players. They had already traded Amari Cooper, so that wasn't necessarily in the fold, but they had to resign multiple players on both side of the football. And we'll get to some of the other reports here in just a little bit, but there was a list that the Cowboys needed to get two of three of these

names taken care of. On the offensive side of the football, the list last year was Gallop, Cedric Wilson, Noah Brown. Those are the three. They were all receivers. It just happened to work out that way. They retained two of those, Michael Gallop, Noah Brown. On the defensive side of the football, it was Randy Gregory, Doran's Armstrong, Layton Vanderesh. They retained two of those guys and Doran's Armstrong Laton Vanderesh, each

of which having a great year. If we had to make an offensive list of three names and a defensive list of three names that you think the Cowboys have to resign. What would those lists look like. Would Donovan Wilson be on the defensive list? I think absolutely tops the defensive list. Lv's probably on that list too. So there's two of our three names defensively. Who are some of the other free agent names patrick that you feel like maybe is on that list? I'm gonna write it.

I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with Jonathan Hankins. Okay, I'm gonna go with Jonathan Hankins, and I know that, and there's value in a guy like Dante Fowler, and that's one as well, because I'm split between I could go with either Dante Follower or Jonathan Hankins. I would love to have both. But if you're asking just three and I just gave you two, Donovan Wilson lve that

holds me to a third. I'm going to lean more towards Jonathan Hankins because while I know that Dante Fowler has a lot of value on what he can provide. I mean, he didn't miss a single game last season, and he was great rotationally applying pressure, disrupting, getting sacks. But I would also like to see more of Sam Williams as well. I think the Cowboys and dan Quinn can work that out. But I know for a fact also that the Cowboys run defense cannot afford to take

a step back. If anything, it still needs to upgrade just a bit. And in saying that, you can't allow, in my opinion, a guy like Hankins out of the building. You sent a pick to the Las Vegas Raiders last season to get him in. You saw immediately happened when you plopped that big body into that into that nose tackle position. That interior defense became very difficult to run

against in the A and B gaps. You saw what happened when Hankins had a little bit of an injury late in December and he was absent, the run defense kind of took a step back. I think Jonathan Hankins can be retained on a fairly reasonable deal. I think he likes it here with dan Quinn, I think that that's that's who I would aim for saying that's my three if I have to say one, two, three, Donovan LV and Jonathan Hankins, a couple other defensive names just

to kind of make it a list here. Anthony Brown's also all possibility. Anthony Barrum going from there. Up, Carlos Watkins. That's an under undervalued guy right there. That's pretty much it. And Louke Gifford. And Gifford of course, he's gone reportedly with the Titans on a two year deal. I believe two years four million him for him, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was a course speci actually, I think it's five

million total. Course special team with the Cowboys. Started to show some defensive legs um when the Cowboys needed some linebacker help. Lost Lve for a few games last season, Damon Clark was still trying to come into his own. Anthony barr had that hamstring injury that cost him multiple games. Louke Gifford became one of those guys that put some stuff on film and it worked out for him in this free agency. So shouts out to Louke Gifford, this

big shout out. That's awesome, man. I think the only other name on there I said that you could possibly put on the list of three with Layton Vanderesh and Donovan Wilson is probably Anthony Brown, right, Yeah, ab abe'sn't there with me, So I'm going to in term of guys that you have to bring back, I'm saying Vanderesh, I'm gonna say Hankins, and I'm gonna go Anthony Brown.

So you go with Hankins as well. Yes, okay, unless you're I mean, unless you're planning Hankins, I mean, unless you're planning on going to get the big Gargantua and that just got released, um from Baltimore. I mean yeah. So, I mean that's I mean, that's way more true. And I would love to see what Callias has as far as kicking the tires exact too, but I know what Hankins has. Yeah, so sure I wouldn't try trade that on a tire. Yeah, traded that off. Yeah, of course.

So your list would be Hankins Brown And you said LV So Wilson wasn't on your top three list. Oh, I mean, well he's gone. He's here now. Oh. I know. I'm trying to check the boxes. I'm trying I'm trying to see play along guys. We're trying to we're trying to see what they're doing on the other side. I'm past that already. I'm sorry. He's like yeah, in the book. So, I mean If that's the case, then I'm gonna go Donal I'm gonna go Donal Ab and Hankins. Okay, I

think I'm with you. Yeah, I think I'm I would say LV Wilson and Hankins mostly because I mean, I'm looking at this draft class too, and this is a really good class of corners. I think there's multiple cornerbacks in the first three rounds that will start next year that are going to be available for the Cowboys. Yeah, and you had the emergence of a guy like yeah, Dron Bland that came in and played well. I agree.

I just think that I mean, obviously you're hoping that he comes back healthy, you know, and able to still do the things he was able to do prior to injury. So I mean, I think that you have to obviously caution and see where he's add in that rehabilitation phase. But in terms of trusting the training staff, if they say that he's going to be a goal I think he's a guy that you have to bring back. I think it's too hard in this league to find good corners, and it's it's a toss up. I mean, there there

might be a lot of talent out there. But the reality is a lot of corners don't stick. So he is one guy that is stuck. He's showing you what he's capable of doing. He's tenacious, he's a little pest, and he's what you need on this defense side of the ball. You look at somebody big Hankins. You saw to your point, you saw what he did when he came in. As long as he's healthy, he had a huge impact there. Um. He's a big body. But you know a big body forward that um that you have

to have on the front line. And you like to obviously add an additional piece there so that you have a rotational guy. Um, so you're not just solely dependent on him and his health. UM. But I think he's one guy you have to bring back. And then in terms of it at the second level, obviously bars out there, vander esh is there. I think that those are two guys that are not sarily dominant, that are possibly their

production is possibly replaceable. We all obviously know both of those guys are sure tacklers, but they're neither one of them are the most mobile guys in the world. So you other ask Dan Quinn, what is your defense at the second level. What are you trying to have that look like you want big box guys that really just come downhill and can make sure they get a tackle, or you want some guys that have some range. That's where it really start figuring out what that second level

linebacker position looks like. Yeah, I agree, I can't state enough. And I've defended and we have defended Layton Vanderish against just some unjustifiable criticism, and I understand some of the justifier.

I was going to say, I understand that the injury concerns, Now, that's justifiable injury concerns going into twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two, I should say, but there was a certain event horizon that was crossed at some point I'd say prior to mid season where it's like, okay, his level of play, it's most certainly reminiscent of what he did as a rookie with the Cowboys. So then the only concern was can he continue to do that from a

durability standpoint. The pinched nerve in his shoulder notwithstanding, which didn't cost him, you know, six seven games, and the Cowboys if it was a situation where they were in the playoffs, he would have played through that. They were basically being you know, cautious and deliberate and arresting him in late December to make sure that he was available for the playoffs. But I'm I'm on a limb saying that pinched nerve in his shoulder. I'm not going to

put that toward any type of durability issue. For the most part, he had a great season. Production wise, he had a fantastic season. I don't see how you replace Elvee unless you're going after the guy that lives in Los Angeles. That I would be completely fine with. And obviously that's no knock to LV, because I just spent

you know, twenty seven seconds praising the guy. But objectively speaking, I don't think anyone would say they would if you had a shot at the guy that lives in Los Angeles and in taking that shot might cost you LV. I'm fine with taking that shot. But if you can't land that guy in Los Angeles and you lose out on LV, your linebacker corpse is in. It is in. Yeah, it's a problem. Yeah, you're O for two in that regard. I'm actually kind of shocked to hear you say that

specifically because you talk about tread on the tires. Give me LV all day, even with the injury passed. Give me LVE in that in that scenario all day. Now, if they don't get l V and they want to go try and sign him, I'm all for it, but I would rather have fifty five here here. As far as Trede goes, you're absolutely correct. But let's let's contextualize

it for a second. If you look at the season that the guy in Los Angeles is coming off of, so he has less trid than l agewise number of reps in the league, but he's still performing at a very high level. So that balances out for me and falls on the side of me being able to say that is an upgrade. Now, it's definitely an upgrade for

twenty three and maybe even twenty four. Now, beyond twenty four, you probably start leaning more towards LVE because youth comes into play and then you're going to get more years out of LV. So yeah, you'll cross that event horizon eventually. But if we're talking about right now, right now, the guy in LA is probably one of only two outside linebackers.

When I say outside linebackers, I mean linebackers outside of the building that I would be comfortable and saying, you know, I'm willing to lose LV for this guy, but if you can't get that particular guy, then you gotta give you gotta give me LV, you gotta give me LV. I mean, you just lost some depth in Luke Gifford. And I know those are two entirely different things. But if you lose LVE, you lose Luke Gifford. We're all in on Deman Clark. Everyone on this panel is all

in on Damon Clark. But Anthony Barr still a free agent, so you don't know what you're getting from jibreel Cox Just yeah, uh, you got guys like Devin Harper, you're trying to develop on the practice squad, Malik Jefferson, you're trying to bring up on the practice squad, but without l V and without that guy in LA or something similar your linebacker corps and shambles agreed. Yeah, and on the same page. I'm on the same bag. I mean, you know who, you know what, that's you know what,

that's your guy. Yeah, that's my guy. So I mean LA that we're talking about, Yeah, the guy that lives in Los Angeles. We can't say names for those of you wondering. So that's why I worked. But I mean, so obviously I like him. There's two LA teams. Yeah, yeah, obviously I like him. Obviously, he um, he's he's feared in the league. I think at what he does, I just worry. I mean, he's thirty two, I get it, I get it, but about to be thirty three. So much the season he had a great year, don't work.

So that tells me this, there's a great season eleven hundred snaps regardless of who's playing at the second level. For what else, Cowboys, regardless, you have to retain Hankins, and you have to add somebody, and you have to add another guy, because no matter who you put it, the second level guarantee. What we saw a couple of years ago was what if you don't have guys up front, they're gonna get to the second level. Yeah, and it doesn't matter who you have at the second level, they're

gonna get Molly WAPs. Okay, so you need some big boys up front to prevent those linemen from getting up to your second level. Guys, all the people that we're talking about are fully capable of coming down him and making tackles, no question. Yeah, So are we in agreeance our defensive list? Our three names you gotta retain. At least two of these names is Lvee Wilson's Hankins. But lv is interchangeable with a linebacker that's not on the open market, good one in particular. So we've got defense

taken care of. So there's yeah. So we've got defense taken care of. When we come back on the other side of the break, we're gonna take a look at the offensive list. I want to see if we can find three names the Cowboys should retain, because one of them is already gone. We'll tell you who that is and what they could possibly be doing next when we come back right after this. I'm more talking cowboys. When you build, you start with the foundation, and home ownership

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gonna know us. Notice now this is up that stuff plu the word you and now now Beamer is going to zoom in on your one shot. It's just going to be okay, my teeth great? Oh thanks thanks in VISI line it all right. Uh, let's talk about the offensive side of the football. We just gave our defensive list. We already retained one player, Donovan Wilson coming back to the Cowboys reportedly four or three years twenty four million. So the other two names that were on the defensive

list lv and Hankins. Of course, there has been no leeway or any report around what they're doing in free agencies. So let's turn to the offensive side of the football. One name already out on his way to Buffalo three years, twenty two point three million dollars. The starting left guard for much of the season, Connor McGovern, is on his way out there. He earned it, No, he did, he absolutely did. And I put out the tweet yesterday I

think Connor McGovern was undervalued as a Dallas cowboy. He was a good, serviceable starting offensive lineman, which is tough to come by, and offensive lineman do not grow on trees. Good offensive lineman don't grow, especially with his versatility. I think it's missed, especially on an offensive line that needed versus y these last two years. I think he was undervalued as a Dallas cowboy. With that being said, I

don't think that number would have worked here. Correct three years twenty three million will not say what's happening, not gonna happen, wasn't happening no now And from mcgoverning looking at it from his standpoint, uh, this is his first real chance, said, landing a big payday, and he had to look in the mirror and ask himself, especially with the emergence of Tyler Smith. And you know Tyrn Smith likely back. That's still being worked out as far as

a potential restructure. But if it's if Tyrn Smith returns as as as expected he will, then that possibly moves Tyler Smith to left guard. And it's just too many question marks. If you're Connor mcgoverned and you're sitting there assessing your your value when what's out there on the market, you resigning in Dallas might make you a fullback, and I don't see how that would be enticing to Connor

mcgoverned coming from a start and left Cord full million down. Yeah, to play often of line, probably full time at eleven front of Josh Ellen eleven. Of that guaranteed, you can pay me twenty four million dollars to be a full back, to be a card holder, twenty four million dollars. That's what he went. That's what you play your whole career for. He learned in a really good spot with great money.

Great money and a good spot. We think. Think about this his entire contract in Dallas, since he was drafted in the third round from twenty nineteen till he was done and signed yesterday or agreed to sign yesterday. Three point six million dollars is what he earned. His guarantee at signing for this contract is nine point nine. His signing bonus swoop, his signing bonus is eight. That's a great deposit. He will double his entire Cowboys career earnings

deposit straight off the bat. So congratulations to Connor mcgart shot out absolutely earned it. He's always and I mean peeked behind the curtain. He was always as good as they come in the locker room. He was great with us, he was great with fans, he was great with the coaching staff. He's the guy you liked to try and retain. Did not get it. That wasn't gonna happen here. I love seeing guys get what they worked their whole lives for, and he got it. So let's talk about the other name,

shall we? There anybody else offensively that's on the list of three names. I'm gonna try. We're gonna try and find three names. Ye, and you have to keep tool. Okay, I got you. I got one. Yeah, t Y Hilton, Wow, t Y Hilton. You want him all? I want t Y Hilton back? I expected another t No, no, no, Well that guy's already there, so I gotta you gotta play the game though, Okay, we're playing, just like with then you gotta play the game. I don't know how

to play games. Tony Pollard, Yes, Monopoly, Yeah yeah, yes, Tony Pollard. Yes, absolutely has to get done. He's obviously tagged right now. I tagger. They would like to see a deal. I still want to see a deal. They want to see a deal. Everybody want to see a deal, A deal will get done. Okay. I don't think that he's gonna be stubborn in that regard. I don't think Dall's not gonna play on the tag. Yeah, and Dallas is not gonna trying to play hardball with him. So

they don't have a lot of opers. They want to listen to the cap hit. They don't want to exactly. Ten point one is not a big deal, but it could be a smaller deal if you get into correct. So now Tony Polars checked off. Okay, Tony Polars there, t Y Hilton, Okay, t Y Hilton still has tread on them tires. Okay, I don't know who our tire sponsor is, so I'm not gonna say. His name is thirty three years old. At thirty three years old, he was booty butt naked open the whole entire last game.

He was what booty butt naked, glistening naked, that's official, glistening naked. He just wasn't getting the opportunities when the ball came his way. He got the ball when guys were in front of him, He ran past guys when guys were when he required to come out the break, he came out the break. It was, what booty, But make it open, bring the man back. You don't have to pay him a whole lot of money. There's nobody beating down his doors right now trying to get him

to come sign a big boy contract. So whatever, he's gonna go sign for it elsewhere. He would much rather like to just stay here. Sure, Okay, he knows the system now. Okay, well thirty percent might change. But other than that, get the man back in the building, can compete. Yeah. Um, I'm hard pressedon you know, no knock to any of the of the in house offensive free agents. Here's here's a list, by the way, let's just rattle. Dalton Schultz followed by Jason Peters. We missed c. J. Goodwin on

the back side. Well, that's because he's a core special special teams guy right on the defensive side of the ball. H Noah Brown, special teams, got it, free it Yeah, Noah Brown, Cooper, rush, t Y Hilton, Rico Dowdle. Those are the offensive names. Okay, so Tony Pollard that tops the list. Ranchise tag done, chick um work that deal

out Dalton shots He has shown production. And I said last season that when Dak Prescott returned from injury that you'd see Dalton Shows re emerge, and that's exactly what happened. That being said, I think it's time to see what Jake Ferguson and pay him shot can do. You have a lot of leverage there as a team, as a

coaching staff. Those young guys showed you they can make an immediate impact and they can do it at a much lower cost than what dont Shows is probably going to command on a free agency market, so he's not going to be one of my top three. Cooper Rush A lot of leve for Cooper Rush. We gave him a lot of flowers. Held one of my science labs this past season was dedicated to giving him flowers. I'm also interested, though, in seeing what Will Greer can be.

I know that in US covering training Camp and Oxner, Will Grier, I think it's safe to say had the lead on Cooper Rush and being QB two joy. He suffered the injury in August slowed him, Dak Prescott and went down. Cowboys had to go with the tried and true hand, which is Cooper Rush. But for my money, it's Will Greer plus draft a quarterback to develop and let them battle it out behind Dak Prescott. So we'll

see how that goes. Jason Peters, I like to have him back as the offensive line tries to figure yourself out. But and I hear that he's open to returning that forty one, But as far as must have, he's not in that same air as like a Tony Pollitt from t Y Hilton. Yes, yes, yes, and yes um. I was in on t t Y Hilton over OBJ prior to hearing reports that OBJ wants twenty million dollars. So if I was in, then I'm more in now. Bring me t Y third and third and forever called t Y.

That's what I'm in. So t Y and Tony Polter are kind of my only two. I don't necessarily have a third. Noah Brown and Rico Dowdle. I know, I believe Rico dowdo went healthy is better right now. The Malitte Davis problem is Rico Dowdle can't consistently remain healthy for whatever reason these past couple of seasons. Yeah. Um, Noah Brown. I can't say enough about Noah Brown's grit, his dedication to get his hands dirty and do whatever

the Cowboys need. But after seeing what he steps back that he took when Dak Prescott returned to the field, because he was going he was going crazy when his When Cooper Rush was there, they got a connection. The connection between Noah in depth wasn't necessarily there. So I'm more inclined to lean towards Noah as a special teamer, which in that case, I can't put him in the

same air as a t Y Y Tony Pollard. So really of the offensive free agents only got too So yeah, what I'm hearing is that it's a significant drop off offensively. I mean defensive that's three starters LV, Wilson, Hankins, and you can even throw Anthony Brown in there. That's where there's attention has been the last few years on the defensive side. But on the offensive side, it's Pollard, Who's

you're starting running back. He's your RB one if you especially when you tag him, then there's a significant drop off. You're talking about t Y Hilton and I agree his return would be a good thing for this football team, especially through an entire training camp and all the way through a season. I think he'd be great, But he's still your third or fourth option at wide receiver. He's not a next level game changer. He can come in and make a game change and play, but he's not

a game changer himself, not anymore. Anyway, I could agree with it, so I I agree retain him. I'm cool with it. But that's a super big drop all this between the roles that those two guys would play. So is that where the Cowboys need to spend? Does that set up the question of this week and next week offensive side of the football, that's where it's got to be absolutely absolutely no. Outside Hell yeah, you know my thing.

I think they need to invest in office A line And I'm sitting here watching all these officers A linement fly off the board and I'm just like, look at those prices. Yeah, but that's what do I say? You see Dallas like check, but you see Lynstrom, I hear he deserves it. Yes, he deserves it because he's a dog. My word, I understand. But when you want the grave, that's fair. When you want my word, and listen, when you want some guys that move them dirt, you better

go pay for the equipment. You see. That's what Kansas City's doing, right, You see Kansas City, Kis at Denver, Kansas City. All these guys, right, I mean, these guys are sharing up there, like you can't do anything product predictive, I don't know productive on offense unless you got the big boys up front. You can get all the all the receivers, all the running backs, you can get an amazing quarterback, you can get all that you want to. Ultimately,

what you gotta do. Every player, you gotta block, whether you're blocking the pass or whether you're blocking the run. So blocking comes first. All the other guys come second in my head. So I'm hoping that Dallas goes out and get some dudes that are still available. But you're seeing guys every single day come off that list. Guards tackles, right, don't We don't need tackles necessarily, but guards and centers come on. Now, that's about say where are you putting

them centers? Right now? You have three tackles. You have Terrence Steele, which he is a restricted free agent. We can maybe throw him into the maxis of retaining retainable guy. Likely, but I've positioned it for weeks that they're going to tender him. It will likely be a second round tender. Will know officially on tomorrow when the league gear opens. But I just don't know that the team is comfortable.

This is my speculation. I just don't know that the team is comfortable doing a long term deal just with him coming off of that torn ACL. So that deal might take a while. They've learned their lesson right, that deal might take a while to happen, which creates a question mark at right tackle, not just in twenty twenty three, but in four. Yeah, and then Tyler biadis he's entering

a contract year. You're starting center. If you're not breaking back Terren Steeles, if you're if you're not bringing back Terren steel if you're gonna not if it's a first round of ten. Offensive line isn't rebuild modes minus Zach Martin, they one percent are in rebuild mode. The teams that what please name the teams that are in our conference, the conference or sorry, in our in our division. Sorry, my apologises. Eagles commanders, James okay, were they specialized out

on defense? All three teams defensive line, defensive line? How many games that twice a year? Right? Each of those are? How many games out of your seventeen game? Six? Six of your seventeen games or against defensive lines that you really can't just manhandle. You might want to address that fair enough. You might want to address that because you get six of your games a third over a third of your games that you're gonna play, you have to

face these guys and as of right now, they dominate you. Yeah, all three of them. Yeah, you might want to share that up. There's gonna be a lot of pressure on some of the younger guys on the offensive line to kind of step up. And these are guys who've shown some promise. So you talk about a guy like Matt will Let's go for example, if not for the injury, I think Matt will Let's Go is a key contributor last season when the Cowboys would have needed him most

across that offensive line. Um, you started to see a little bit of the needle pointing north on a guy like Avellant Collins. I like him, Yeah, I like Aviana's He's a he's a dog. Yeah that that horn frog knows how to get after he's a dog. So the guys have and I have to say that because he and I we kind of poke fonde each other dogs TCU.

But the Cowboys going forward. You know, even if they retain Tyrn Smith as as expected, um dropped Tyler Smith, maybe down the left guard Terrence Steele is an RFA. Isn't going to be a long term deal, is it not? Tyler Biadas? Can you lock him up early? Are you going to say, let's try to find out the center? You got Lindstrom's brother here, right, Alec is here right out of Boston College. Can Alec come in and contribute

as an interior swing offensive lineman. It feels like the Cowboys are looking at their young guys on the offensive line and saying, we believe that you're going to take the next step forward. That can Your question scares me about one particular player the others I see some potentially there's one particular guy whose last name rhymes with call that I would prefer not Doball. Yeah, okay, I would that on that particular player. I would prefer to not

see trying to protect that Prescott. Everybody else I'm willing to see. But to your point, however you address it, it has to be addressed. Cowboys offensive line. When we come back Martin is in rebuilding. Yeah, when we come back from the from the break. My hand is raised. That's that wasn't to come back, will be talking, don't. They don't pay me to do that. That's Kyle, He's the man. I'm not going to infringe on his special. Isaiah has his hand raised. When we come back here

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If you were going to spend big free agency money as a Dallas Cowboys front office, we know they don't like to do that, But if you're going to do so, they don't like to do that until the second week after they see how the market folds, thee how the numbers were understood, understood, It's just how it's how it always Yeah, So Dallas people come to terms with it the better. Yeah. They like to go through the guys

that are left after the first week. It's okay, well, they focus they focused on trying to keep their their guys. Get it, I get it. We just talked about it though offensively there's help. Okay. So, um, if you're going to spend big on one free agent, what position would it be for m outside of the building, outside of this building, please, it's on the offenside of the ball now, wide receiver. Um m hmmm, huh. Because as far as

offensive line, we talk about that at NAUGA. So I think that's the obvious, right, But the question becomes at this point, as as these days roll along, are there going to be any offensive linemen available in outside free agency that you would be willing to pay, Not necessarily a premium because it'd be the second tertiary waves, but pay a solid dollar two that you feel that they're going to come in and instantly just make everything you're saying.

You're saying all those guys at the offensive linement position have take the top offensive linement. If they've not been taken yesterday by the time this week is overs, out there by the time this week is over, that is going to dwindle, might be gone by the end of the right. So then that leaves you they're not white receivers though. That market just started moving this morning. Yes, it just there was no wide receiver movement in day one. The numbers and the names of these wide receivers aren't

they're they're not sexy. I mean they're not they're not big time names. I mean, Jakobe Myers was the names that offensive side right offense. Okay, we've still going with the offensive line, I am. I mean now a lot of these guys are tackles, which I can make it work. Orlando Brown, you have tackles, Taylor Lwant. That's what I'm saying. I can work. I'm inside of you. Get absolutely site to slide down. Donovan Smith. Um, I'm looking again. I

don't see any interior guys. Really, the interiors drawn up. Graham Glasgow from Denver, he's probably somebody that you could look at. Rodney Hudson from Arizona. He's getting He's he's thirty three. Their names there, the wide receiver names just they don't jump out at me. I mean, are you gonna go get Adam Feeling? I mean yeah, but you're gonna have to spend You're gonna have to spend a

decent amount there. This is the first team outside of Minnesota that he's been on hill probably his production has substantially dwindles. No, you're right, Robbie Anderson. No, I mean that's the that's those are the top two names on the wide receiver list outside of Ode. Can make an argument for Juju? Uh, show me the number that's fair, show me that. So before you shake your head, please don't we said big money. We said big money. Questions questions, Okay,

So then no, I can't. I can't make the big money argument for Yeah. I can't make the big money argument for Juju. So fair enough. If you're saying big money, then I can't make it. Maybe he'll take your saying reasonable money. Then I could make the argument for he'll take a pay cut to come take it to Philly, like like being said the back, Yeah, just to go out it. Guys are done taking pay cuts. Guy, I know I'm living. I feel like the obvious answer to

the question is offensive line. But the problem with that being the answer is that you don't necessarily have a direction to go there that would be palatable financially for the Cowboys, because by the time it becomes palatable for them, which is going to be date four or five, six, seven and onward. The names that would have been able to that you could have dropped into this offensive line say boom. So you're saying there, so you're saying it

moved too slow. I didn't say that. I'm just saying that by the time they are ready to move in that capacity, those guys are what they had the same opportunity as the rest of the league though, right they did. Okay, So that's just different, different motive operation, philosophy, different motive operation. They're focused on keeping back. But let's rewind. Let's rewind to day one. Rewind, rewind to day one. Okay, free agency. What position are you spending on m day day one day?

Offensive line? What position? Guard? Yeah? Give me, give me a big beefy guard. Yeah. Okay. The only guards that have gone off the tab off so yeah, only table. The only guards that have gone off the table. Ben Powers Baltimore signed by Denver. Nate Davis Tennessee signed by Chicago. Outside of that, I mean Nick Gates, who was ah, I mean he got less money than even a Connor mcgoverned guy. I mean those are the two names, the two starting names that you probably could have gotten for

big money. I mean, it would have been big money spending, but it would have been the input guys there. I still think there are impact guys that question on the market. Okay, do you I know we gotta get ready to get out here? Do you guys worry about that position group, especially knowing the philosophy that McCarthy is trying to establish at you mentioning West Coast ball out quick. He wants to run the ball, He's no secret about that. He

wants to run the ball. He wants to be able to control the line of scrimmage and control the game clock and give his defense rest and simply just just handle you on an offensive front. Yes, I am worried about it. I am too, Yes, because and here's the thing. You could give me a starting five to start the season, right. You can give me that starting five where it's Terrence Steals, Zach Martin, Tyler biatt As, Tyler Smith, Tyrn Smith. Give me that starting five, and I'm all right, right, I

feel pretty good about that. Those are the five guys until Tyrn goes down. Then what do you do? Then it all gets blown up? And guess what Tyrant's going down might be before the season starts. Again. I mean, he's played in seventeen games of the last three seasons. Right, give me, give me stability, give me something offensive line wise that you can rely on. I think Tyrand Smith's a hell of a player. He always has been, and

then when he's healthy, he's still fantastic. Even when he slid over the right tackle and he had his ups and downs. Still believed in him. But do I believe in his health and do I believe in his durability? No, correct, I don't, And that's fair, And I think that's just

a realistic take on it. So assuming which is not a safe assumption, assuming Tyrant Smith can give you at least half the season, I think recent history dictates that he'd likely won't give you a full seventeen plus, So you're gonna miss it for several games for whatever reason that might be. See I hate being happy about having him for only half a season, though, Like that's where I have the problem. Fair, but given the current state of affairs on the offensive line, it's better than not

having him at all. Agree, Because if for whatever reason, Tyring is not back in the building, which again it's expected that he will be, but we're speaking hypothetically. If he's not back in the building. You want to talk about a position group being in shambles, we were talking about the linebackers, your offensive line. Holy crap, right, absent tyring. You don't know what's going on with Peters. Even if you do, it is its position. I get it. Get

to be addressed and aggressively. My own point is, I think those guys that will be able to let you be able to drop in and say ka boom. But that's why we're solid. But that's why I'm so flying off. That's why I'm so frustrated. That's why I'm so frustrated. Myself and Nate Newton have been beyond freshtrated because it's like I understand that Dallas, within their typical philosophy, doesn't like the overspin for players or spin too much for

a position. Listen here, man, if you want to do what you used to do at the line of scrimmage, you had to have because the opportunity is most likely gone, right unless they pull out some miraculous trade or something like that, that's still on the board. That's still on the board. Those players are gone. Those impact come in freaking just hogs up front. Those guys were gone. And

that's why I was frustrated. That's why I was frustrated because I feel as if in Dallas Cowboys Nation, we focus so much on the skill position groups yea, and everybody forgets about what makes the dog on motor run. Everybody wants the aesthetics, they want the rims, right, they want the low profile, they want the tenant windows, you know, yeah, they want they want the sound system right. But yeah, you got no training, right, your axles are shot, right,

you got no rotors. But guess what, we look good? But we look good, right, they don't want the dog. Yeah. So that's my That's that's what I feel almost every year, you know what I mean? And then guess what we do and then guess what historically we're like. You know what, I got a plug over here. They got some stuff you know in the back, got it in the fourth you know, I got some stuff in the bad sixth round and the dust that out. Let me see if it's still on the show that still work. It still work.

Here's part the question, and this is gonna this is gonna say way to something Kyle does except exceptionally. Well, um, how would you feel if they two years in a world kind of double down on offensive line in the first round. I'm with it. I am with it. What do you think? I love it? I'm with and I'm completely fine, And I honestly think that's what Dallas is going to do. So then that would solve your solve it.

I don't know, because it's still you're still a question, right, it still has tails, gonna take time, fair, but it solves the concern about addressing it with premium premium asset, so being with top money or a first round pick that's premium asset. So I like where you're where you're going with this. I think that's what Dallas is going to do. Being a McCarthy now has like full full control quote unquote. Okay, I think they're going to address office in line. I think they're going to do that

in the first round. There's one guy then that's it. That's the only guy you got. But we're Osiris Torrance from Florida. That's the only first round guard that would potentially be available. He's actually the top rated guard on my list. But that's not a good thing. It's not a good guard class, not a good interior offensive blind class. John Michael Schmidtz out of Minnesota is probably the second name on that list. He's right there, but he's a sinner.

Well Cyrus, for those that may not know, And if you don't know, that means you didn't listen to the previous episode of Talking Cowboys. What are you doing when you're like, well, Cyrus had a formal meeting with the cowboys, so they are interested. Yeah, I think if you're if

you're Mike McCarthy, now have to take office alignment. If you're coming out preaching about what you're about to do offensively and about about how you want to go about your business, you have to set a temple and set a set forth what you're gonna do and by and then you do that by going out there and grabbing a guy that represents what your game plan is. We'll see what their thirty business look like. Oh yeah, that's that's the real interest. How many, oh il will you

see them? Only? We'll think about it. Last year, like we we never even really looked at drom Bland. We had looked at him a little bit, we had kind I've seen him but he was a thirty busy guy and he kind of he was just one of the back end guys that you thought brought in for an undrafted free agent. Look, no, he got drafted in the fifth round. Things like that show what they're looking for. So when the thirty visits begin to come out, that's when you'll really see where they're honing in on these

draft visits. A lot of that there the combine visits. Rather a lot of those formals are just just kicking tires. I mean they're interested because they met with them, and they're at least on the list. That's what I mean. There's at least interest. Yeah, but shows you there at least contemplating. I wouldn't be shocked if Osiris Torrance is a thirty busy guy, because he might be the only

one of its. John Michael Schmidtz, they did meet formally, John Michael Schmidtz, Real quick, what position group are they drafting? First round? First round corner corner guard Osirius Torance. That's your pick, then, is it? And I'm okay with that? Yeah? If that's I'm just saying. Last year there were five names. I mean, we were talking about Kenyon Green, Zion Johnson, Tyler Linderbaum, Tyler Smith. We were talking about all these guys that were up at the top of the draft

last year. UH, cornerback, offensive line. I'm completely and utterly fine with those being if one of those were the goal at twenty six, or if they moved up a little bit, whatever the case may be. It might be a wide receiver too. By the way, wide receiver, I'm also not adverse to that. However, if we're talking running back, there are a couple of really good wide receive I'm O'm out on running Jackson Smith say. I say all that to set up my next statement, I'm out on

running back. So everyone stopped tweeting me about running back. I'm out on running back. I won't even make it out of the top fifteen. It's not worth the energy. It's not worth the energy to have that conversation. I don't. I realize it's good for you know, clicks and whatnot, but you know, I don't need to please no skill positions, all right, So when the Cowboys draft a wide receiver,

Isaiah will do his pin throw across the room. When we come back next week, we will break down what else has happened in free agency, and we'll we'll try and see if we can continue making some road apps. Any splashes you think either before next week? I think there will be one splash. I'm not saying it's cannonball with after you had a big burger like it's great into the pool. Will there be a cannonball before next show?

Before our next show? I think it will be what was the what's the other drive dive that makes a big splash? Can belly splash, belly floppy flop, billy flopp? Worst? I think? Can't opener? Can't opener? Can? Yeah? They can opener? Okay? Can opener by Tuesday? By Tuesday, can overen to by Tuesday? Or a cannonball? Cannonball by tuesday, cannonball by too. I have I have somebody in mind. Oh, I feel like

they're working on it. We gonna see tell Us, tell Us, tell Us, tell us on the next episode of Dragonball. On the next episode of dragon Ball. Stand back for Patrick Hawker. I'm Kyle, y'allm sake for joining us on Talking Cowboys. We'll see you next week. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club out there,