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After a Week 10 loss to the Green Bay Packers, the Dallas Cowboys are left asking, “what if?” Instead, it’s time to break down what went wrong down the stretch.

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The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the Star in Frisco. Following list and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, Patrick Walker, and Kyle Yeomans. It is a Monday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company. Here from the Star and Frisco in the s WBC studios.

It is the Monday following a thirty one, twenty eight Dallas Cowboys loss to the Green Bay Packers in overtime up at lambeau Field, and we're here to break it down for you here over the next forty five minutes. Chris Beam in the back, Isaiah Standback, Super Bowl Champion. We've got Patrick no sleep Walker, he got a little bit of sleep last night. Smith toast and turned all night replaying the game. And I'm Kyle Yeoman's let's break

this thing down. Let's not waste a whole lot of time because it wasn't pretty, No, it was not at all. Cowboys blow a fourteen point lead heading into the fourth quarter. They led twenty eight to fourteen. Instead, Green Bay rattles off seventeen unanswered points. The three and six Packers come out on top, and they send you back home with your tail between your legs. And now you got to go up against an eight and one Minnesota team this week,

which of course we'll talk about later on. But Patrick, you were there on site at Lambeau, you were on the flight home, you were on the ride home. What happened? Tell us? He looks angry. Yeah, I'm pissed, And I mean, there's there's no other way to say it. And you know, I'm not one to spin it, so it just is

what it is. I'm pissed at what I saw. And you know, and this is when you look at Mike McCarthy's postgame press conference, the level of frustration that he displayed is something that's rarely, if ever, seen from Mike McCarthy publicly in front of a camera. Now, for me, there are several and I I used the words several loosely, there are several reasons the Cowboys lost this game. You know, gave up a fourteen point lead, and and all of them matter. So so let me lead by just saying

that first, all of them matter. So for those that are saying, you know, well, it wasn't the bad cause or the no cause, Yeah it was, but it was that in addition to the inability to stop the run, it was the poor officiating, in addition to give allowing Watson to go off for three touchdowns for a defensive secondary that we routinely said and has proven that it's

one of the best in the league. So to allow a rookie to go off like that, to have a Megatron day against you when he was basically of no consequence for the Packers up to this point to lose this game, it's inexcusable. And to put it in Tryvann Digs his words via his Twitter he said, unacceptable, and that's saying the least. At the end of the day, this was a game that the Cowboys should have hung forty plus points on the Packers should have absolutely decimated them.

But you get one interception, what happens the Packers go down and they score a touchdown off of them, You get a second interception interception. What happens to the the Packers go down, they score a touchdown off of that? You just gifted them fourteen points. We all know you can't give Aaron Rodgers extra possessions, and you keep finding out

what happens when you give them extra possessions. And you're at lambeau Field, so you have to know there's this curse that exists there right, be it tangible or non tangible. And then you see that curse show itself in overtime if you shouldn't have allowed it to get the overtime and the Cowboys are moving the ball, and then you get the questionable holding call on connomerc govern and then you get the Jalen Tilbert controversy. Offsides on Jalen tilbrit

he said he checked with the official. You look at the broadcast. He was talking to the official, he says. Dak says Jalen said the official told him to scoot up. He did, and then he tried to scoop back too late offside. There you go, blah blah blah. But what really was the poetic injustice of it all is again, the Cowboys should have put this game away and put it to bid as early as the third quarter, maybe

even the second quarter, without those interceptions. But to lose the game in the fashion in which they did, and to me, the icing on the Colonel Cheese was the non call on Alexander that would have given the Cowboys automatic first down at around the twenty five yard line, and that probably would have given the Cowboys a more chance to go ahead and finish this game. But I could argue that they didn't deserve that chance because before that point, you should should have nailed this coffin closed

several times. So I'll throw it back to you guys, But yeah, I'm pissed. And unlike the Bears game, and like I said, you couldn't use the Bears game as a barometer for the run defense because of what the score was, and the Cowboys are basically daring you to run the ball, like, Okay, you can't catch up by running the ball, that's fine. But what did I say in that same statement. I said, if it was a close game, then yeah, it's a barometer. And they got

absolutely destroyed by Aaron Jones. They just did. And kudos to the Packers because what they did was used a lot of shovel passes up front. I think the first seven or eight pass attempts by Rogers were shovel passes to the edge to stretch those edges. Which is where the Cowboys were struggling and stopping to run. Those linebackers weren't helping as the Cowboys needed. And then Aaron Jones

started going up the middle. Now Cowboys are completely off balance, so Aaron Rogers says, hey, thank you feetball twenty four carries one hundred and thirty eight yards in a touchdown for Aaron Jones. The Green Bay Packers ran for two oh seven against this Cowboys defense that of course, they struggled to stop the run. They gave up two hundred plus against Chicago just two weeks ago, and their fin most recent game, back to back games, they've allowed two

hundred plus yards. That's only the third time that's happened in the last thirty five seasons for the Dallas Cowboys. Isaiah, what are your thoughts on the loss? Oh Man, Missed opportunities, can't stop the run, misscommunication, and again with your receiver slash tight ends and your QB one, that's really what it comes down to it. I don't I don't look at referees. I mean there is some there's always gonna be toss up calls. Yeah, there's always gonna be toss

up calls. People are like, oh McGovern was, that was a weak call. His hands were outside the pets. I mean, no matter how much you want to say he held or he didn't hold, his hands were outside the pads. As a very that's one of the main indicators that they're looking at. You know, Jay Alexander, you know whether or not that was pr That dude he's turning his head around, he's getting back around like he's going back and forth. It's a toss up call, right. There's guys

pulling and grabbing. I mean, there's there's that going on on every play. If there was ever like, you could literally throw a flag on every play if you really wanted to. So I'm not going to rest it on that, but you can rest it on the fact that if you allow a team to continue to run the ball two hundred plus yards per game when you face opponents, they are always going to have a chance to win,

always gonna have a chance. If you can't stop a team and get them off the field and they are allowed to continually move the chains down the field and you're not putting up points and you're creating and you are turning the ball over, teams are gonna have an opportunity to win ball games, and then you could then you compound those problems with a head coach that is makes an emotional, irrational decision in the most important time of the game, you're gonna lose, and that's going forward

on fourth down and three in overtime. I'm just barely into your opponent's side of the field where you're actually you're within range from mahr. But you like not to kick it. You elect not to kick the but you're understand the situational awareness. If if it wasn't overtime, I might have been on the same page. Okay, let's if it wasn't overtime, sure, okay, but it was overtime, and

in overtime you secure the points. And the reason why you secure the points is because you now put the opponents back against the wall to where they absolutely have to score. They have to score. You kick it out the end zone. You make them go the long way of the entire field, and you make your you let your defense pen their ears back and go ham because that's where you rest in. That's who is leading this team right now as your defense, and you take that

opportunity away from them. Counterpoint and this is going to be the first time and hopefully the last time I pose this question regarding this this defense that is normally just stout outside of the run defense that needs to be figured out. What if, in that situation, because I mentioned it in regarding Cooper Russian Philly, if you know that a particular guy or segment of your team is not playing well, then you should scale that back and try to protect it a little bit from themselves. That

was the Cooper rush situation in Philly. And what if that was the situation in Green Bay on yesterday and Mike McCarthy not deciding to kick that field goal because he probably I'm not going to say he probably, but what if he felt like, because his defense had been giving up these big plays both on the ground and in the air the entire game, he's saying a field

goal is just not going to do it. There's a chance that, because of the way the defense is playing, Aaron Rodgers marches down this field and scores a touchdown and finishes the game. Anyway, So if that was the mentality, I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it at all. The only thing I would be mad at is Obviously the execution then would happen on the back end of that play. But if that in fact was his thought process, then I'm not mad at that aggression.

I am why because statistically, I don't think Aaron Rodgers goes down and scores hitt and he did anybody by the way. I mean, yeah, he did that anyway. I mean, but the thing is like, it's all about what position are you going to put them into. It creates a

totally different mindset. The response from Green Bay is substantially different if they know that they have to score, if they absolutely have to score, right It's different from your mindset saying we gotta go score a touchdown to win this game, versus we just got to get to that point right there because we got we got Crosby. We just need to get right there, that's all. We don't even about thirty yards. It doesn't matter. It's still Crosby

at all matters. It doesn't. It's just like having Justin Tucker. If you have a Tucker on your team, you know that you're good, Like you know you just get to certain parts of the field where you know you're good. That's why we talked about the field goal. That's why we talked about the kicker all off season. That's why we're talking. That's why we're talking about it being a decision now. It's because you have Brett Maher. That's why

it was a decision in the first place. Because you're not gonna punt that ball away, not from that point of the field. You're either going to kick the field goal, try it and put points on the board, or you're gonna go for it one of the two. That's where you're going putting my head coaching head on. I feel like there are two reasons that McCarthy decided not to kick that field goal. One is the one I just

laid out. I feel like he saw his defense getting gashed in the air and on the ground the entire game, and normally it's just the ground and not in the air. So if it was a normal game in that capacity, then you could say, Okay, well, if we get this field goal, they're gonna have to score a touchdown. That means they're gonna have to get chunk plays after the kickoff. So I put trust in my secondary. But the secondary wasn't showing you much outside of Trivon Diggs for the

most part. So you're like, hey, my defense isn't playing well. I'm going to try to protect them and get more aggressive and go for this touchdown. So now the boats they can do is match serve and then try to two point conversion. That's pressure in and of itself, but also the area of the direction of the field they were traveling in. That's the same direction that Crosby missed the field goal earlier in the game. And we're also talking about a head coach of Mike McCarthy that knows

the dynamics of Lambou field very very well. Maybe he felt like there was some type of swirl effect down there that helped lead to Crosby missing that field goal that he didn't want to put Maha in a fifty plus yard situation to potentially do the same. And then guess what, Rogers gets the ball right where he got the ball anywhere, and he goes down to scores as

he went down the scored anyway. So so many things that I could list that I have a problem with with, you know, that went wrong over the course of the game. That's just not one of them. I'm fine with that call,

but you shouldn't that call never exists. Butterfly effect, that call never exists if you can if you communicate well with your wide receiver one and that's not an interception in the end zone, or don't show that, don't shoulter, if you communicate well with your wide receiver one and that interception across the middle of the field where you thought he was going to cross face. Going back to the Chicago Bears, when Eddie Jackson did it, and he didn't cross face, he took the shoulder, he took the

outside shoulder, he didn't flatten out his route. Another interception. Those types of mistakes, and of course the run defense. And you know, we all know how much we love DQ, and I love DQ to death. But when I see that Anthony Barr is out and Damon Clark finishes with only seven defensive snaps in a game where the opponent's rushing attack is just massacring you, I just I have questions.

I have questions. I think everybody has questions about the run defense and what's been going on there and how do you fix it. Whenever I went back and watched it, and we'll talk about the defense here in a couple of moments, But I wrote down just three sentences or three thoughts. I said, sloppy stunt work, lots of man coverage, and poor gap discipline and tackling. That's kind of what I had for this defense overall. And that's not an

easy one week fix either. That's a long term overhaul that you would have to take in order to try and stop the run. Now, I want to talk about this fourth down and four decision a little bit more because from what I'm hearing, you're more upset Patrick at the execution, the execution of it, rather than the call. Correct. But the execution wasn't there a all game long, So you're talking about the lack of execution from the defense

stopping the run. Isaiah. They weren't necessarily moving the football at will either, especially in the second half going into that that fourth quarter. They had no rhythm whatsoever on offense in the fourth Yeah, I'm I can't even get up my allow my mind space to do, my head

space to go to that point. Like, I can't even get there, because to me, it was such a no brainer decision to take the point, to take the points, Yeah, like it really was, and or at least try for the points because it wasn't an easy, feel easy field goal. But where if you there's a lot of questions about Brett maher right and whether or not he can make the forties and thirties. Nobody questions the fifties. Nobody questions whether his ability to kick fifties. That's just that's his

comfort zone. Like that's just his thing, right, everybody has their thing. That is his thing. So I felt very confident with his ability to score those points. And I felt like you had a good drive. You drove the ball down there. Boom, Okay, they stops you right there, bone kick the dog on field goal. Take those points. Defense, you know what to do defense, You know what to do. His backs against the wall. You know the point of the field that he needs to get to to win

this ball game. Don't let him get there. Don't let him get there. That's a totally different mindset. Then crap. The entire playbook is open to Aaron Rodgers now, and he knows that all he has to do is marching. However many yards it was thirty yards, whether forty yards, like, that's all he has to do in his head. I just need to get to right there now, And they

got it. All on one completion to Lazard over the metal Branford extra yardage, got inside the twenty, and then of course they took it down to the ten, took a knee, and it was a pat. That's what we're going to your point of execution. It's also in real time as well, because in real time your offense was moving the ball on that drive, So that drive specific right that on that drive specifically, your offense was moving

the ball. So therein lies the confidence in Mike McCarthy to say, hey, we might not have been moving it well over the course of the back half of this game, but hey, look we're moving it right now. So let's take advantage of us being able to move it right now, and then toss in the other factors that I mentioned a little bit ago, and I just I don't have a problem with the car. I have a problem with the execution. But to your question, well, if you've not

been executing all, well, like the defense hasn't. With a difference, well, it's in that particular moment the offense was actually executing, so I would be again, I'm fine with the decision. Now, we could argue the play call itself and the execution, but the decision to go forward, I'm that I'm completely

fine with. I have an extra grind in several other areas of the game, but that's that's well, first of all the secondary and of course the second that the success of the secondary is always going to be, or almost always going to be, predicated upon the success of the pass rush. Pass rush could not consistently get home and shouts out to DeMarcus Lawrence. Seems of gloween read

I mean glowing golden circle from yesterday. He played out of his mind both in run defense uh when it came to his side and in the pass rush arena. But outside of DeMarcus Lawrence and Sam Williams shots out to Sam Williams, he had todown. He did absolutely outside of those two guys. And I don't have to go back and watch the film, but I don't know if it was because Michael wasn't one hundred percent and or

if he just couldn't get off on yesterday. But whatever the case may be, the Packers did not feel the impact of Michael Parsons, not only with sacks but with disruptions overall. We didn't see the disruptions from Michael Parsons and that allowed Aaron Rodgers a little bit more time to do what Aaron Rodgers does. So the pass rush outside of Sam Williams and Marcus Lawrence was mostly ineffective.

I have an extra ground with that. You're the best pass rushing in the league, pass rushing the league, and you didn't show up yesterday for the most part. That made it more difficult for your secondary against a quarterback. You know, if he has time, he's going to torch you,

and that's exactly what happened. Trayvon Dixlay played mostly well, but we saw what him with Anthony Brown, you know, and then he ended up leaven with a concussion After that big play from Watson, Covid Joseph got targeted early once he became once he came in for that, Kelvin almost had a game breaking force fumble on Aaron Jones. But it just nothing broke right for the Cowboys. It just feeling like the one play that they needed was always right there. They were always right there on the

event horizon, but it just couldn't go. It just couldn't. It couldn't make that leap. Where were your some of your bones to pick for this Cowboys loss, I mean the miscommunication Dalton Schultz was responsible for. I mean, back up, Dalton Schultz ran the wrong route on the red zone interception. He firstally got knocked off his route, he ran the round. I'm just saying that's his explanation of it, and I'm not explaining it for him, And I'm saying it was

a drive. It was a drive concept. Drive concept. The two receivers on the right side run clear outs to turn to try to just just back to the secondary off. Cede Lambs was running about a twelter fifteen yard and right on the goal line, and Dalton shots is supposed to be the low man to run a drive ride across well, Dawson Schultz run the same exact route as CD Lamb. Right, you know who was supposed to run

a rout based off alignment alone. Ceede Lamb was off the ball off the ball Man's never gonna run shallow, He's always gonna run a deep route. Then on the ball man's was running shadow. Okay, he ran the wrong route. However, Dak Prescott seen that you don't throw the freaking ball. Yep, you don't compound a problem with another problem. So all the way wrong in that room came the receiver order in the tight end room messed up, and then the QB one didn't make it any better by throwing it

and then throw your hands up and get frustrated. Cool, that's one bad decision what I have drawn up on my tablet right now. And teams are starting to do this. They know that when they see Ceedee Lamb in the slot that a lot of times he's either running an over route okay based upon play action, or he has a read route on the inside where he's his read is middle of field open or middle of field closed.

Teams are starting to show single high and then playing a dual coverage, so instead of playing one or three was single high, they're showing single high priests and in post snap they're going to cover two on one side and cover four on another side. And it is creating a lot of confusion for him in terms of what he's supposed to do. So when you see him run that route, it looked like it was going to be

a single high coverage. One safety is actually the first substantially further back from the line of scrimmage than one, which gives the illusion of a single high. But that's why you saw he was in between do I run the post or do I run the end route? Dak is reading it one way like it's single high, when reality is too high. It's a lot of confusing crap

going on right now. But they have to find some solution offensively to say, hey, if this is the look, this is the route, because right now they're reading, they're not reading the same language now. And I think Dak was off early as well, like early in the ballgame.

He was not good at all. Because I looked at it and my notes written down Dak off early with a bad throw on third down, tight window near pick to Brown on the next play, additionals because I wrote that down, and then I kept seeing bad throws, said additionals, throwing into the ground against lamb, throw behind the lamb two A couple plays later, then I put additional additionals and I said throw wide to gallop and then throw out a bounce. I mean, he was not good yesterday.

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District dot com slash Christmas for more info. That is a long goodness gracious, all right, now that we're through that, Isaiah, we were talking in the break here, and I'm actually super intrigued by this. I want you to show your camera here and I want you to kind of show me some of the things. It's just one instance on what Green Bay was doing to kind of confuse Dak Prescott, and I need you to audibilize it. For the people that are listening. But if you're watching, this is really interesting.

All right, So as I go to my tablet here, sorry about on my chicken scratch. But can you hear me, good beamer. Sorry, what you're seeing here is a single high safety. Okay, I'm trying to do it backwards. What you're seeing here is a single high safe. So that's what Dak Prescott sees whenever you have ceedee lamb over here in the slot. Okay, he's running up and a trying to run in right, that's the first single high

He's gonna run an in route in front of the safety. Okay, So that's what he did not do versus the Chicago Bears a couple of weeks ago. Right, But if he has the middle of the field to open, or if there's two safeties, or if there's two safeties going out, okay, so cover two, cover four, he's supposed to split those safeties. Okay, he's supposed to split those safeties. So right now, you guys seeing the pre snap bread where it looks like a single high this safety is about five yards deeper

than this safety down here in the strong safety. Easy read in pre snap. But what happens is there's a pre and there's a post snap. So as you snap the ball, okay, boom, no, that's my other player. Sorry. As you snapped the ball right now, you're seeing that far side safety that was about five yards deep. What is he doing right here? No, see, he's running to the second half, so he's playing half right. He's playing covered two right over here in the cornerback. The cornerback's

playing down. So on that half of the field, they're playing cover two perfect. But on the half of the field where Cede Lamb is supposed to make his read route, they're playing quarters coverage. Quarters coverage means the corner has a quarter of the field, the safety has a quarter of the field. It's still a two high I read, but it still looks really odd because one safety is

so much further back than the other. So when cd Land comes up to the point of his route where he has to now distinguish whether it's single high or dual high, you saw the confusion and you saw the indecisiveness because he's reading it. He's like, it looks like two safeties, but that safety is way back there. So do I cross his face or do I run the post route and Dak Prescott was still reading it as what a single high so he's throwing the en route

right now. He has thinking CD is going to cross face because of that, But the confusion of having the two safeties on that side of the field allowed CD to have to make a decision. He decided to go back behind and then they were on the on a different page there. So Dak, when you look at it based upon the rules, DAK isn't the wrong based upon the rules, and I'm going back on my word now. That's why I usually different than don't talk, is different

than the Chicago deal. Based upon the rules of the concept, DAK is wrong because it's two high safety. But they're giving both looks of a two high coverage. They're giving the cover four look and the cover two look. If he runs the posts based off this look right here, it's going to be intercepted. If he runs the end route, he's good. But there's nothing on here that says run

the end route based upon their rules. Really confusing, but teams are starting to do this because they understand when CD's in there, he's usually running some form of a middle of the field open or middle field closed, and they understand that this distinguishment, this disparity between one safety's level and the other safety's level is causing a ton of the decisions that are that are not in favor

of Cowboys. This is very smart by Green Bay. And those those interceptions and this one also obviously when you're talking about interceptions, but those are the tail of the game. And again, all of this matters, right, So the officiating matters, and you know, the interceptions matter, and all of it matters. All of it matters. But when I look at these numbers and you try to figure out why the Cowboys lost this game, it's because of the takeaways by Green Bay.

So twenty four first downs by the Cowboys only twenty first downs by the Packers. Cowboys took the edge there. In third down conversion Cowboys only five or fifteen when the Packers only six thirteen, so they almost broke even there. Total net yards four hundred and twenty one for the Cowboys, four or fifteen for the Packers. That's pretty much a wash as well. Here's where it starts to break in

favor of the Packers. The Cowboys had seventy nine offensive plays, the Packers only had sixty one, which means they were either more efficient on their plays, which is true, but something else happened in which they didn't have to, you know, field the ball as many times offensively, and that's takeaways

in big plays, the chunk plays. It's what goes to the Cowboys having to run more because the Cowboys didn't get nearly as many chunk plays as Washington excuse me, as Green Bay did, and then it kind of goes from there. So for me, when the question is where do you go from here? Because the run defense was working and the passing attack was working, but it was the two instances in which it went awry be at those two interceptions that the Packers capitalized on. And so

the answer is, don't turn the ball over. But the Packers had two turnovers as well, and the Cowboys could not capitalize on those as the Packers capitalized on. The Reason why I bring that up, though, is because you're saying, obviously, you don't turn the ball over. That always put you in a bad situation. But the turnovers neutralize each other based upon just stats. The first ones did, and then the second one they had two interceptions. They had two fumbles,

right right, okay, so I'm but look at the outcome. Now, what happens after that? That's that's what I mean, right, But in terms of turnovers, they had equal opportunity because we're happening after after de Marcus, after Lawrence's sack fumble and recovery by curse that should have been points. What the Cowboys do? They realized my point, that's why, and I when it happatistically, that's why the stats on the whole story, that's why I don't all the way on

the stats because that's where does the penalty situation come in? Where? Because they were and I marked it down, I said, penalties that turned into points or cost you points. When it happens four different times. You had eight penalties for or for sixty three yards I think is what The final stat was, nine for eighty three, nine for eighty three. So I got the numbers mixed up. But penalties for points or no points. There were four of them that either cost you points or allowed for Green Bay to

score points at the other end of the field. So where does that play into it? Because there was a ton of them. It's it's the wind, it's the wind butterfly effect. If you don't turn the ball over, which then doesn't allow Green Bay to get fourteen points, and then you're probably blowing this team out to the point where when you get down to the late third quarter into the fourth quarter, then these penalties probably don't exist. Be it you know, conspiracy theories or otherwise, they just

don't exist because they're irrelevant. They don't matter. The outlook of the game is different. The Cowboys are running the ball because they're trying to burn the clock dot dot dot. So I'm with you, hours, it's the win, it's the wind. I do want to hit this just real quickly. The same play that Isaiah just broke down the interception over the middle of the field, Kingsley ignant bare the rookie out of South Carolina. He got a tip of He tipped that ball just barely. It didn't change anything. It

would have been an interception either way. Dak was looking at down that safety was there. It didn't change anything. I just wanted to make it. Yeah, people, it was tipped. People are making that as an excuse. It was not change. It was gonna be a picture. Dak red single high CD red to a dual high late and because the thing is indecisiveness at the receiver position will screw you over. It's what It's what Aaron Rodgers has been dealing with

all season long, the indecisiveness. Yesterday he dealt with drops. Okay, prior to this game, he's been dealing with receivers not knowing where to go, not knowing what to do. Cede Lamb in that instance they have, That's what I'm saying. They're gonna have to go back. And Kellen Moore's got to say, hey, listen up, we're starting to see this now. We're not just starting to see the base found the

base coverages. Now we're starting to see combination coverages. So when we see these combination coverages, this is what the route's going to be. It's no longer a read route. This is what it's going to be because it looks like two different things and the defenses know that. So along those same lines of the offense not executing, there was some execution that went well for they They ran them all back exceptionally well. They did battle back. They built a lead, they got up twenty four or twenty

eight to fourteen. They built this lead based on the way that their offense blocked. I thought the offensive line had a pretty solid day for the most Parrot, Campbell and Gary on the field. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I thought they had a pretty nice day the offensive line. So I want to give credit where credit is due there. I thought Ceedee Lamb answered after making a mistake early on, he had a phenomenal game, big time stats, big time plays. He did what you needed to and then some of

the play calling I really liked. I thought they got creative, but not outside of themselves at times. But then we got to the fourth quarter, and that's where I want to go next with this offense. What happened? Why do you go away from the run? Why are you forcing screens outside? It goes back to what you've talked about. And I'm gonna give Isaiah a lot of credit here because he saw this thing coming from a mile away.

Kellen Moore will be within himself for only as long as it takes for him to get outside of himself, and then all of a sudden, those decisions are made. MB always wants to be. He's fighting himself. He's literally fighting himself. And listen, we talked about this. I sat here and told you guys last week if Dak Prescott throws with forty plus times, was the result probably a loss? I said, I said it, if Dak storm forty plus times, that's not what he does. He is a play action quarterback.

There's nothing wrong with that. Let him play off the play action. That's when you were most successful as an offense with the Dallas Cowboys. Tony Pollard is toting the ball. You were getting a ton of yards underground. He was averaging five point two yards per carry, twenty two attempts, one hundred and fifteen yards. Why would we go away from that? Why at what point in the game did you have to abandon that and all of a sudden start taking things to the air. Yeah, there's no need

for it. And that's when I say that Kellen Moore is a really good, really good offensive coordinator. But there's these things where he's times where he's just literally it's a it's an inner struggle, it's an inner rally. He's wrestling with himself and he's like, Okay, I know what I should do, but this is what I'm going to do.

And unfortunately, when you have somebody that's making those decisions and then you have a quarterback that's not throwing the ball as actively as you like, and then you have receivers that are confused based on coverages. All this stuff compounds and you can easily just take all those problems away and see me saying, hey, we're getting five yards per tote. Yeah, five yards per tote. Give the freaking

ball to Tony Polar and to that point. And this is something that we've talked about because Kelling himself kind of, you know, jokingly admitted it weeks ago. He said, if it were to me, I throw the ball one hundred percent of the time. So this is this is one of those games where giveaway. That's one of those games where McCarthy mentioned it coming out of the Week one loss against Tampa Bay he said, we need to make smarter decisions in certain situations and going into the fourth quarter,

this is one of them. Now, the special team's penalties, you can't keep giving your offense along face. Hey, Luke Gifford had a heck of a game. Shout out to Luke Gifford. So did C. J. Good Ones. Yeah a game. He made some amazing tap absolutely and shot out to Turpin too. Yeah. Yeah, but Turpet almost had another one yeah, he did. Man, he almost had another. But but to that point as far as changing up things, so you know, you get the penalty home Payton hinder shot unnecessary roughness

on that point. That gives the Cowboys a long field. So they're starting in the fourth quarter and on first and ten from their own five yard line. First play was a pass. But we just talked about how the running game is averaging almost six yards of carry and you're in your own goal post is staring at your back. The first one was a pass. Dak Prescott was sacked. Okay, next play, Tony Pollard up the good five yards. Okay,

what if that had been the first down play? Okay. Nonetheless, Tony shortens it and now it was third and six and they go back to a pass and it doesn't work. It's no a brown, it's three yards, so it's three yards short. Now, special teams does what it does best. C J. Goodwon on that punt. He goes down, he forces the fumble. So that worked out for the Cowboys. They were able to get the ball back and they

would be able to get a touchdown. But it just goes to the over arching point that Kyle is saying that in the fourth quarter when you need it, when you really really need it to continue to exploit what was working, which was the run game. You didn't and you should have. Yes, just want to throw this out here. I'm not a big stat guy. Sometimes it backs your point. I'm only a stat guy when I'm right, right way.

Thirty one rushing attempts. It's like PFA, it's right when it's thirty one rushing attempts for an average of five point one yards per carry, forty six passing attempts for an average of five point eight yards per reception. Okay, not great, five point one versus five point eight. Greater chance of bad things happenings on one versus the other.

And your offensive line can run downhill, you can get into a rhythm, you can bully some people, You can do so many different it was playing, will exactly correct. Just one more stat on the offense before we switch to the defense. We go to our second break. Yesterday was the twentieth time in Dak Prescott's career number twenty that he's thrown for at least forty pass attempts in a single game. He is now six and fourteen in

those games. Now I know a lot of that is caused and I don't even don't even remember the term. I mean a lot of that's throwing from behind. Basically you're trying to catch up and so he's throwing those pass attempts. But well, last night was not the case. That was not the case. A lot of these are really those games in it didn't go in their favor because that's that's kind of how it goes. All right, when we come back here on talking Cowboys, let's slip

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twenty five dollars off. Back here with Patrick Nose Walker, Isaiah stand Back, Chris Beam in the Backham Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us here on this Monday, following a thirty one twenty eight over time loss to the Green Bay Packers. And we've already established this. It wasn't pretty stopping the run two hundred and seven yards on the ground for the Dallas Cowboys. It's a second straight game they've allowed two hundred plus rushing yards to an opponent.

And I tweeted this out last night. But it's not a promising schedule for the Cowboys struggling run defense. Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor, Damian Pierce, Travis etn the Eagles in week sixteen. I don't even I don't even want to just name one guy there because it's the Eagles. And then Derrick Henry in week seventeen. Oh he's the King King Henry. Uh yeah, it doesn't get much easier.

Got to figure it out. This defense has been fantastic all season long, elite level defense, except in one area. They're Achilles heel. You can't stop the run. But you got to figure that out. You know what I saw on the film? What you see you about chee and scratch again. But I don't know how Dan Queen handles is here I know he will. They're going from what I'm seeing, at least in a yesterday's game, I have to go back and make sure that it's that checks

the box. On other games the X I know a lot of people are talking about all the you know, the guys are getting to the edge and they're tearing us up on the edge. Dallas's defense is going too heavy to the strength of offenses. So if I line up three receivers on one side, one receiver on our left side, I'm going to the strength. I'm gonna load my defense to wherever the tight end is at. Wherever the tight end goes, that's where the strength of the

defense goes. Okay, so literally in the entire front, wherever it is, guys, the interior linement, the d NS, all that stuff is dictated based upon where the tight end goes. What happened yesterday is every time green Bay lined up with their tight end, whatever side that is, Dallas went super heavy over there. So you ended up with from the center. Say it's say the tight end line up to the right side. You line up with four guys lined up to the right for green Bay, but Dallas

would have six. But what they would end up doing was running a motion with Watson or running a motion with the tight end, and then they ended up with

the advantage on the backside. So where Dallas was super heavy towards the tight end, green Bay was running opposite of the tight end because that's where Dallas was let was weak at numbers wise right, and with the motion, the fly motions, the return motions, all this stuff they were doing, they ended up with the numbers advantage on the back side, which is why they were doing that. Plus they were pulling two offensive linement for most of the game, so they were ending up where Dallas thought

they were playing the strength. Green Bay actually went backside and actually ended up with the strength. Six on four, seven on five, whatever it might have been. They always had a one or two man advantage on those outside run plays, which is why they kept going to the whale line. It because Dallas was out leveraged. So in Layman's terms, it's pre snap we were running to the weak side. However, post snap, very quickly it turns to the strong ste Well, it's just it's just Dallas. It's like, okay,

where's the tight end. End tight ends over there on the left side, Okay, cool, we're going heavy left. We're going heavy left right. That's where they must be going there. We're going heavy left. And green Bay's like, okay, yeah, go ahead and load up this side. Yeah, go ahead and load it up this side. We're gonna go backside. We're gonna run a motion over there, so we're gonna gain the leverage. Our receivers are outside of your dbs. Your dbs are lined up inside because they're trying to

protect what they're trying to put. Dallass is trying to protect the runs or everybody's kind of squeeze in the box. Well, these receivers now opposing offenses are now lining up outside of those guys, which gives them what angle crackback angles. So now these receivers could come down and block down down, and they're starting to pull their now they're tight ends. They're starting to pull their tackles. We call it down,

down and around. So guys are cracked backing on the DBS, DVA, the officivel lignement are cracking down on those other defensiveligement and then you're pulling your tackles, you're pulling your guards, and these guys are now coming around and getting up to the second level. And it's a numbers game. It's simply just pure numbers. They're leaving one guy for were Aaron Jones leaving one guy for Dylan, and these guys are saying cornerbacks Diggs. Diggs doesn't want to tackle. No, No,

he does, right, he does. It's not his thing. He's not a Jalen Ramsey. We talked about this during the Rams week. He's not a Ramsey. He doesn't have that mentality. Can he. I'm sure he can't. Is he willing? He's absolutely not willing to tackle. So now all of a sudden, you got these guys that have lineman coming at them

and they don't want no part of that contact. There were a couple of times before we get to Patrick, there were a couple of times that, once again I was frustrated and watching the film because of Diggs not wanting to step up and make a play. Kelvin Joseph did it a couple of times. He wants to heat special teams. He's got to. He's kind of he's worked in there. He wants to. He wasn't great in coverage

yesterday a lot. I mean, he got beat multiple times with Kelvin Joseph, but at least he wants to come up and hit and run defense. That at least gave me a nice little positive on on his game. You can't and I can't stress this enough. We say going into this game that the Packers did not have a receiver cord that you needed to be concerned with. So all you need to do is make sure that the no names and I would even throw Sammy Watkins into that. Just make sure the no names remain no names after

the game is over. You can't allow Watson to buy to subscribe to Twitter Blue against you and get the verification the buck. You can't allow a guy like Watson dollars to get the blue check mark against you when he didn't earn it. I got eight. I got eight on it. See what I'm saying, Watson hadn't earned that blue check matches the number right, Watson went and subscribe to Twitter Blue on Sunday to get his check mark. You know you know what else? Don't see? That was

off for bothersome for me. Watson dropped two touchdowns. Yeah, but I disagree on that one. They were not touchdowns, they were big plays. Let me back it up, big play. Watson dropped two major plays. They wouldn't have been. Here's the thing though, and and going back to if he could have had even more. Aaron Ron needed just one guy to be an animal, and he didn't know going in who would be it. He didn't know that anybody

would actually step up and do it. But he identified and Matt Lafleur identified pre snaps where Tryvaughn was and they said, let's put Watson where Treyvon he's not right, and it worked. It worked against Anthony Brown, it worked on that that cross drag when he had Bland chasing him from behind. It just it worked. They schemed Watson everywhere Tryvon wasn't and it was just effective. Time and again, all three of Rogers's touchdowns were to Watson. He was

he was the reason. Now, what did you want to happen? Because I feel like you want to say it, but you're not saying it. Say it travel I should have traveled, Trayvon. Thank you. When you have a guy going off like this, thank you, throw that pregame scheme in the trash and adapt and say, you know what, that's what I'm talking about. I know we didn't want to travel Treyvonn because coming into this game, none of there were receivers demanded that kind of respect. But in real time a guy who

has flamed on. So we're gonna put our ex under Madden. So I needed McCarthy and dan quinn to look at Travann and say, we're gonna put an ice box with my heart used to be Marion. Just go full and just say that is your guy, and I guarantee you you grabbed by the collar. Right. Watson is clamped from that point because what you were asking. You saw the you know CB two and Anthony Brown he would he couldn't do it to right, So then he leaves with

a concussion. So then you look at the young guy and Kelvin, Right, you look at the young guy and Kelvin you say, you go do it, and durn Bland, hey, rookie, you go do it and watch it. It's like, thanks

for not putting CB one on me again. You look at that, You look at the fact that Aaron Rodgers completed only fourteen passes, and of those fourteen passes, the first five or six were shovels, right, It was just some drop balls in there, right, But it was the big play that was successful when it didn't have to be successful. This is one game that in real time I would have loved Dan Quinn to look at treyvon Dixon say, you know what, typically that you're half of

the field, But no, we're moving you. No. See, I am so proud of you. See, I'm so proud he got it off your chest a little bit. You didn't have to set it with your chest. I said it last night. He probably the guys probably got tired of me. I'm saying last night that last night, like grab him by the collar. That's Trayvon I'm talking about, and say, wherever he goes, you go. If he goes to the freaking toilet, right you go, you grab a baby wipe,

you hand it to him. Say but I'm right here with you, right no matter where he's at, turn your back, I'm right the exactly right now. You know, the guy who comes in for the drug test, we call him to P man. You know why because he follows you to the bathroom and watch you drop your drawers and pe in the cup. Y'all need you to be Trayvon. I need you to be the p man yesterday. Follow him to the dog on toilet. We're ever he goes, you go, that's your man's a new Okay, we gotta go.

Beamers getting mad at us, but I'm about to fall out of my chair. All right, that's it for us. You're on Talking to Cowboys. We're taking calls tomorrow eight eight eight, eight, five five two two ninety seven. Give us a call, tell us what's going on with this Cowboys team. We're gonna talk to you guys all day tomorrow. We're gonna give some news and notes early on, and then it's fan calls the rest of the time. We want to hear from Cowboys Nation. But that's it for

us today. For Chris Beam, Isaiah standback, Patrick Nosey, walk around, Kyle Yomen saying, so long from Talking Cowboys. We'll see tomorrow. Yeah. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dellas Cowboys Football Club.

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