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The Jones family's in the house though. That's right. Yeah, as always here full Star. A few more floors ups, that's right, top floor. Uh. Brian brought us, joining us as always. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello. That was Mickey Spagnola interrupting me as usual. Hey, we don't want along here, We don't want to change too many things. Not Bill's not here, but you know, we gotta keep things going smoothly. K Garrison always keeps us going smoothly with some dynamite drops.

I try spliced in there, the I five I five forty five rivalry. It's almost bad. I like that getting started with the practice week. Today Wednesday, Cowboys will be back on the field getting set for the Texans Sunday night in Houston. We can start breaking that down. We touched on it a little bit on Tuesday, but we can look maybe towards their defense and just how they're gonna try to wreck the game for the Dallas offense coming off a pretty productive game against Detroit, and we

can go anywhere. Take your phone calls as well. Eight five, two two ninety seven is the number. Good job last night on your show. Thanks you guys too. It was a lot of a lot of back and forth. I think we covered a lot of ground on the Happy Hour, The Happy Hour. Absolutely love the Happy Hour every Tuesday night at Concrete Cowboy. Are you there for that? What do you think it's gonna give this team the more most problem their offense, their quarterback, the receivers, or their defense.

Houston all fired up because they're gonna try to win bragging rights in the state. Yeah, God, which way do you think they go has? What's their avenue for success in this thing? The dudes up front on their defensive line. You think it's gonna come down, Mickey do your offensive line and having to play if you can block those guys. Um. Although their offense has been pretty potent, they haven't won. Yeah,

they've racked up a lot of yards. Kind of reminds me a little of Washington our day back in the day with with you know, with Cousins, You're like, Okay, this guy's gonna throw for four oh eight, but they're gonna lose by seven because he's gonna hand you the ball a couple of times. Yeah, this guys, those got'll hand you the ball And I know you want to make me we can kind of focus our throat for four hundred or our total four hundred yards and have to go into overtime to win because you blew a

twenty eight to ten lead. Yeah, so they got a gift too. I remember I was telling you about yestert touchdown right, Yeah, one of the first touch they had, the center just thought he was in shotgun and dropped the ball in the one yard line and next you know, it's a mad scramble. But he's lucky he didn't get fined. No, I you saw that. No, they're they're mad. Bowls is mad at his h oh I forgot the player. He he scored a touchdown. It had to be a wide receiver, right,

and the Jets all that. Well, sorry, he took the ball and wiped his behind with him because he was doing a commercial for a company that had male wipes. Oh so he was doing some product placement during the game. Yes, interesting, Yeah, yeah, Bowls wasn't big on it. No, And he got a fifteen yard penel and sports like conduct. Shocking that he would get that for doing that anyway. Strange. Yeah, there you go, we're off track. He was just thinking about

the ball and hiked and there was there to get it. Yeah. I kind of worry a little bit about first down running here, you know. I mean, the Cowboys are really good at it. I know that's something they want to do. I think they're gonna have to mix it in this game if you want to get back to offense or defense. But you know, the the Texans are one of the best in the league and not allowing you that. And I wonder if going in now that what we've seen with Dallas and trying to kind of get things started.

We what was the you know, the Seattle game that was a little bit more of a mix of It wasn't just straight run ye Giants game was that way too. A little bit more of balance, I shouldn't say balance, a little bit more passing on first down. I wonder if you go into this game feeling like, you know what, we're gonna have to throw the ball a little bit more on first down than than what we normally do. What is the Texans run defense on first down? Look?

I just you know, yeah, I know, Mickey numbers drive you nuts, but I like to look at these things, and I'm not big on numbers. I just like to look at him to see if there's any trends or anything like that. I'm a guy watched the tape. Either they're gonna block you or they're not gonna block you. You know, but the Texans are third in the league

on third down rush. When it comes to they only on first see me, on first down rush, they only give up three point four nine league average is almost four and a half on first down, So you know that's something in in Dallas is one of the best in the league. When it comes to their first down runs, you know, they're gonna get four plus yards almost fifty percent of the time. So something's gonna have to give there.

And I know, Mickey's gonna tell me need to stay ahead of the chains and those kinds of things, and he's absolutely right, you know. But I wonder if necessarily you're gonna have to mix in this game that you're gonna just can't line up and say, okay, you know, even though this this is one of your strengths, do you play to your strength or do you say, Okay, we're gonna go a little bit different than what we normally do here to kind of get the ball moving

a lot. Like you guys were talking about last night. Can't get behind the chains in this game, and you can't do it, can't have a Carolina read. Yeah, because of the pass rushers. I've got the NFL's leading rusher. Yeah, all right, let them stop them before I decide to change do something else. You want to dance with what brung you? They are twenty seventh against the pass. Yeah, so maybe no one's tried to run against them because it's too easy to throw on them. Yeah, uh, they've tried.

I mean, they're ninth against the run ninety four yards a game. I'm reading John the Great John mcclean's report card down at the Houston Chronicle Uh, they limited the Colts to forty one yards rushing two point one yards yards passing. Did they give up? Uh, let's look at the game book, Mick, I have it right here. Four hundred. Yeah, that's a lot, you know, it's really funny though, four hundred and sixty four to be exact. We're getting into

a bunch of numbers here. And I don't mean to get the fans about tyre head here and four touchdowns, but here. Yeah, and this is this is what's it. To Mickey's point, For as great as they've been in as you think as a pass rushing team, when they blitz you quarterbacks have a rating of one twenty three. That's twenty ninth in the league. Maybe they don't have to blitz as much, but they do. They like to. They like to give you a lot of a little

a lot of different looks. The double a gap, they'll walk, uh, you know, Tyrn Matthew up there as a blitzer and stuff like that. So I think it's to Mickey's to Mickey's point, he's absolutely right, you know. I mean, I think you want to run the football. I think you want to try and run the football. But yeah, but they've had some struggles. I mean and I and I just the guy always seem to look at in this their struggles is this is Jonathan Joseph, This cornerback number

twenty four. He seems like the guy that they like to pick on that you know, because he'll play soft. He really doesn't tackle all that well and in coverage, he doesn't drive very well. This team has a history of having some cornerbacks can that can play. You remember a Buoye that that's now in Jacksonville. We'll see him in a couple of weeks. But they have a pretty good history of guys that can play cornerback. But this

cruise a little bit suspect. Uh Sharise Wright on the other side, I think number forty three, he's a little bit of a suspect guy. So and Tyron Matthew God, I love him. He's an LSU kid, but he is really an undisciplined player. I mean, you'd love to have him on your team, but he will he will drop coverage and and he's one of those guys that plays with really like instinct more than he plays with. Okay, I know what you're trying to do. I'm just gonna

try and jump routes and he freelances a lot. Yeah, those are good, those are good names to talk about freelance. Those guys pull it off, and this guy could pull it off at times, but he will also put his team in some in some harm's way. If you remembered Arizona last year, it was Terrence Williams in that game caught a nice route across the field where where Tyron Matthew tried to jump the route a little bit and it gave Terrence some separation and it was a huge

completion in that game. So he's capable of either making a play or making a big bone head and mistake for his team. So but I'm just trying to think of ways that you're going to have to move the football in this game. And m Mickey's point is well taken. If you're gonna you know, you are what you are, you know, But I don't know if we necessarily going to be able to do that. Is it going to be consistent? First down run? Is it going to be okay?

Even though the numbers say yeah, Brian, keep running, especially early in the game, they're gonna be loaded up for it. Probably early Keep running and you know, and but I'll see you another thing. They had a problem within the Giants game that I watched. Their linebackers usually tackle very well. Zach Cunningham had a really hard time in this game tackling the Giants, And so hopefully you can get some of that. But overall, it's a it's a good defense,

it really is. It's got you know, with what and then and Clowney. I just think you're gonna have to You're gonna have to account for Clowney more than you will Watt. And gosh, I know I'm gonna be cursed for saying that, but they moved Clowney around. Remember how what the last time these two teams played at at AT and T it was Watt moving all over the place. He was standing up, he was on the left end, he was right in. It just appears that they've taken Clowney.

He's taken over that role and they've kind of let they've let J. J. Watt stay on that out on that left side or your offensive right. But I just could see them, you know, with the struggles that Lyle Collins has had two you know, maybe given some rushes over there and saying Okay, we're gonna let your rush against Lyle Collins and see if you could break him down. Because watching it back, I did see primarily at least early in the game, and I haven't watched all of

the Houston Indie game, but Watt on that left side. Yeah, he would move inside at times two right and they and Clowney would take over. He'd switch side as well. So what Collins is probably gonna see both of them. Yeah, that's that's their luck. Pass for four hundred and sixty four yards. He hit some really big that where they attacked. Where they attacked this uh Texan defense was in the middle of the field. They had a bunch of big

time hit crossing routes that worked. They actually had several drops. They had four or five drops on slants that might have gone well. They had a they had a crossing route underneath that would have gone much similar to what happened in the Carolina game. Would have been a big play that ended up being a drop. So yeah, I mean they they The thing you just have to worry about again is the protection. I mean that that to me is going to be the real key in this one.

They stacked him four times right. Yeah, Now they hit him a bunch. Okay, but now stop me. Four hits by Clowney alone, Okay. And I'm not an expert on the Colts. Yeah, and Hinds. Yeah, he's the main Hines rookie out of yeah NC State. Yeah. Yeah, he is a good player. He's a running back. He caught nine passes. Yeah, okay, c Rogers he is a wide receiver number fourteen. Yeah, should I know him? Well? No, they're making plays, That's what I'm saying, z Pascal. Their cornerbacks are Grant the

only guy I gotta get down to. T Y Hilton. Yeah, he had four catches. He got hurt in the game, but he had forty two. One of them was a forty two yarder down the middle of the field. He got hurt on the play. So these aren't like household names that ripped him for four hundred and sixty four years. You're saying you're not impressed, Well, I'm just asking the I think the personnel. How did this happen? You know it's the NFL. Can I ask you a question? That's

all your angle? Your angle is that they suck? Is that your anger? Didn't say they suck? I'm just saying because I'm trying to find out. I think I think twenty seven points to the Giant. I think that we're trying to figure out here. I think we've said this. Their pass rush is good, they play run defense on first down, and they they're struggling. The secondary we just talked about. The corners aren't very good. We talked about the safety is not very good. We're not saying it

can't be. We're not saying it can't be done. But you're you're You're also a team that's offensively challenged as well. It's not like we're the Rams or the Colts, anybody else or the Colt. We haven't thrown for four hundred yards the games. One of the Colts done in four games. I'm just telling you, though, I don't know there's stats off the top of my head. Yeah, I know, but they they were one in three. The Texans. Yeah, feel free to pick them on Friday, Mick, that's all right.

I'm gonna pick Dallas. I'm gonna pick them big and no, no, don't pick the texts. Are you Texans holding you to it? Yeah, they're at home state bragging rights on the line. Well, you're big on that super Bowl talk, aren't you? Leave? Bill brought up? And then they roll our ass and Mickey's in here on money making excuses for him. I

don't make excuses as I tell you what happens. Well, you you obviously we're trying to tell you that the Texans secondary isn't very good, all right, and we're making your play, but their front is so good that it should help the secondary not give up four hundred and sixty four yards passing. Don't block the front, Mickey, and see what happens to you in your pack didn't say that, Mickey. You're okay, you're talking. How did that happen? Micky? Okay,

you're talking. When's the last time the Cowboys through for three hundred yards in a game? Oh? I'm sure it was twenty seventeen. Well, can you give me some stats? Maybe you're you're arguing thirty points in a row against the greatest defense on Earth against the Rams, thirty points against the Packers, that was what that was? How many games ago? When you asked me, I said twenty seventeen. I'm just saying, how many games ago is that calendar year?

This team doesn't throw the ball. Well, let's not understand. I understand that. Well, then how are you going to attack the tell it? Well, against a team that can't defend the pass, how are you going to attack the Texans if you don't throw the ball? Well, Mickey, well, they're the twenty seventh rank pass defense. How are you going to atta pack the Texans if you don't throw the ball? Well, to give you some reasons, give me some reasons. I don't. I mean, I hear how good

they played this past week? Their run defense was terrible? How was the past defense? Their past defense was good. They threw for two fifty five they hadn't done that in ages. One of the passes was for thirty three yards. They had some big plays downfield. They had several explosive plays that help bring that total. But they it all adds together. That's good. Zeke takes a screen pass thirty four yards, thirty eight yards? Well good? You know what

this guy from Indianapolis Hines. He was the leading receiver with nine catches. Running back. He's a running back. Yeah, all right, load up, Zeke. I'm I kind of leaned toward what's Brian saying? Though, they're gonna load up to try to stop Zeke early. Give me a reason I understand, and I think we're all saying the same thing here. They can't play past defense. They could rush the passer,

but they don't play well in the secondary. If you protect, how do you if you're the Dallas Cowboys generate passing yards? That's my question. By running the football on them, what if they stopped that and then you're in second and nine early, you know, and then through no fault of Zeke, what if they're loading up to stop you early on like like Carolina did? Well? Will they I don't know, we'll find out. That's why we watched the games, all right.

I just asked, will they load up after they just team has when's the last time his team ever threw for four hundred yards? Has this guy ever thrown for four hundre yards? Probably not Green Bay playoff game? What was that? And I I mean, I'm sorry, I'm just guessing here. I'm with you in that they've got to be able to get him in some manageable situations where he can convert third downs, right, But they want to

run the ball, There's no question about it. My question, what I go back to is this reminds me of Denver last year with Von Miller and what Jason Garrett said about von Miller. You can block him all game long, Yeah, but it takes one or two plays that can wreck the entire game. And they forced three fumbles last week and recovered one in the end zone for a touchdown. What forced two? They didn't really force that one? Well, okay, they got credit for it. But they can. They can,

they can turn the game around. It could be a one score game and one big strip sack can make all the difference. I'm with you on it. So they've I mean to me, this all falls the offensive line, pass protection, giving allowed time, allowed to let those routes develop down the field line and try to open it up that way. From what I can tell, he's never had a four hundred yard game Dak Yeah, never, I don't think so. And yet and he's never really been asked to, you know not. That's not the way they

run offense around here. It's it's it is Zeke first, Mick. Yeah, but sometimes that's not always gonna work. And we've seen it a couple times this season where Carolina game, I mean, they said hell or high water, We're stopping Zeke. Yeah, I don't. I just I could say I wish, I wish I could say, I wish I had the confidence to say this team could throw for three hundred yards against these guys. I wish I could say it. But

you're right, this team has not built that way. But they better find a way to be able not to get in those situations where they have to throw the ball right, because that's where again we've seen. Do you fully trust? And I think you've said it before, Mickey.

I'm not putting words in your mouth there, but you you I think you've you've had some concerns about Lyle Collins at right tackle, Yes, you know, and if that's if that's you know JJ Watt over there, you know, rushing him and stripping the ball out like he did in the film I saw against the Giants and the and the Colts, then I think you have to have some concerns over there. You know, this team can't create turnovers, but they surely can turn over the football. Every time

they've done that, they've lost, Am I correct? Yes? They're minus two, yeah, minus two and it's in lost and dead last in takeaways. Yeah, they might get a couple this week though, that quarterback will throw you the ball, better be ready. And he by the way, Deshaun Watson, he was sacked seven times by Indianapolis. I don't know how how much of that might have been some of his doing. Well, that's now okay. Now you want to

talk about an offensive line that can't run block. They're the opposite of what Dallas is when it comes to run block it, you know, and then they've had problems in protection. If I'm Dallas, yeah, I'm I'm hopeful. You know the thing about Watson is that he's got this escapability and he's got to He's almost like watching Mahomes play, you know, when you escape and you just run your left and throw at sixty yards. This guy's capable of

doing that, you know. And are you gonna be disciplined enough to play in the secondary not have busted coverages? Those all the things A fine line. It's just a fine line for this team having to win or lose games. He's on pace to be sex sixty eight times. How about our guy? What's he on pace fifty? I figured it out. Yeah, we're supposed to have an elite offensive line fifty something that's what this league gives the six. You find a way, you got a pressure. Look what

they did in the game. Those numbers could have been terrible against Detroit. Yeah, I mean that guy was what twenties four of thirty in the game. She's he could have been. You know, he could be a lot worse if they don't get the pressure in sacks on that guy. Yeah, you could. You could throw for a ton of yards and still lose these games. Again, we talked about Washington being that last couple of years. Colts, last week Colts. Yeah, Colts just abandoned the run. They knew they couldn't run.

They said, okay, let's but they have a quarterback and receivers that are capable of putting up four hundred yards. I don't think this crew does. So, you know, if you want to take advantage of them, you know, take advantage of them when you can. But you know, let's not hang our hat on that. Yeah. I only tried to run seventeen times. Yeah, but they are behind twenty eight ten in did they stop the run or they just abandoned it and say we got to catch up.

It's second half early that game. Early in that game, they could not h the Colts could not run that ball. Yeah, and you said, look, they're one in three. So to me, the stat isn't misleading that they're good against the run, because it's not like they've had a bunch of leads in their first four games of the season. They only threw the ball. They only ran the ball three times the second half. Yeah, and one of the runs was I think it was Andrew Luck for a first down

in nine yards or ten yards. Yeah. Well, I think you're a you know what to wrap this segment up, I think you guys are both right. You gotta be able to establish zeke and you got to find a way to get the ball down the field in this game too. You gotta take advantage of if you can. And but you know, are you built to do that? That's the trick we'll find out. We'll find out Sunday night. We'll keep breaking this thing down as we go throughout the week. I love the fire between you two. It's

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Landed in Houston, enemy territory down I forty five, Get us back on the road. What's up? Landing was going on? Man? I appreciate that. I I think my call man. The closer to fund, the more excited I get. Good be at the game. Super my friends who like Datas fans and Texas fansite. Hey, what's the buzz down there? Right? Now for Texans fans, is it crazy? Oh, it's real crazy. They think they're gonna win them, and they really think they gonna have a chance. But now I know it's

gonna be a great game. I mean, I re respect the Houston taking you know a lot. You know, they got a great defense. You know, you can't you know, uh shrunk watching great quarterback. But my but my thing is I'm more of a defense of type of minded person to play strong and safety in college. Um, so I'll pay attention more to the defense than anything. And so my thing is it's been documented well that Burron

Jones has really been excelled at that corner position. And I noticed again be sure that you know, there was really thing that cheeto the whole game. So is it that they are starting to pay attention to that Baron Jones is really playing well on that side of the the field. And you know it's the league thought them taking notice that Baron Jones started to become a great corner And I don't want to say shut down yet, but you know, it kind of gets to that point where he's taking

like the one half of that feel away. So um and then uh, that was my question. Then I also want to give a shout out to Big Joe Joe Looney. Yeah, really done a great job. Yeah, I'm sure taken a place for an all post center. And um and I really like the way he ran down the field on the lead put down man. They got me excited. I was jumping up to Yeah. You have to see a big,

big guy running down a few of that fast. So um so I want to the film to talk about what I said about Baron Zones and um, hang up, listen, thank you appreciate the calls Byron Jones a shut down corner, Brian, you know what, This will be a good matchup for him this weekend though, if you know with DeAndre Hopkins in this crew, I mean and you know I mentioned Kiki Kut I mentioned him yesterday and don't forget Will Fuller. This is another one of those groups. I don't know

if they can make the acrobatic catch. I know that I know that DeAndre Hopkins can. He's like playing against Odell Beckham. That's that's who he is. That you know this electric receiver crossing round slants, doesn't matter. Throw him the ball short. He could take a short pass and go all the way with it, so they're gonna have to be ready for that. I will say this about it, and this is no slight to Byron Jones and the

ways play. Most teams in the National Football League are right handed when they throw the ball, so you look at the way they attack, they usually attack the right side of the field. So that's the quarterbacks are are really throughout their lives. You know, the train to kind of throw the ball both ways. But if you look at the majority of the passes that are thrown the right sideline, the right area, right flat, those are areas. So a woozier is going to get a lot more work.

You know. They like a Woozier's toughness. They like Byron jones toughness. But you don't have a lot of a lot of teams attack the left side of the field unless it's a left handed unless it's a left handed quarterback. And I'm trying to think in the league, who has a left handed quarterback. I'm sure I'm missing somebody that's left handed. That's uh. Do we have a left handed star? Do we have a left handed start? Ha ha, say a left handed coach? I said, a left handed quarterback?

A quarterback is yes, a coach in the league. He probably uses the clicker in his left hand to watch take but uh but yeah, I think that to me that that Byron is you know, yeah, he's he's up to it. They've thrown to him a couple of different times. But I'm sure I'm missing the left handed quarterbacks. I've got one of the tip of my tongue, man, do you really Yeah, I can't remember who it is anyway,

but it just shows you. Hey, the majority of the teams this league are right handed, and they then they focus on the right side of the field because of their quarterback. It's a great point. Yeah, yeah, but nothing against Byron. But because he's been he's you know, when they when they've thrown his direction, he's been up to the task. He just hasn't faced as many passes as say, with what Cheeto has. And that's no slam on Cheeto because I felt like Cheetos for as all the things

that win his direction and kind of went badly for him. Oh, he played a pretty good game, you know. He led the team in tackles, I want to say, or was near the top of the team and tackles and a lot of it was because he was having to make plays, but those guys made some incredible catches on him. So you know, tip my hat to the Lions for the plays, and you know he's gonna have his hands full again

this weekend as his Barron Jones and these safeties. That's the first time that's happened to Cheetah also, by the way, so it's not like they just for four games, everybody's been thrown at him, right, it just happened that the way. I mean, he threw some incredible passes, no question, and those guys made some great catches. It wasn't like he

was beat now. To me, the only mistake he made was on the cover three on the final touchdown, didn't stay where he was supposted right, caught cheating looking inside at the at the slot receiver. But he's played awfully well. So you mentioned Kiki Kuti for the Texans. They seemed to move him all over the pages too. He was highly effective levin catches against Indianapolis last week, had a

hundred yard They had a couple of receivers. Again, it's at least they overall, they had a hundred two hundred and sixty something yards with two receivers here rookie playing there. Yes, he's from Texas Tech. You know, though I didn't give him enough credit on the Draft show. Dane Brugler was really excited about him, as was Kevin Turner when we were all doing our drafts coverage and Katie had him actually in the third round and we were all trying to push him down to the bottom of the board.

He looks like a really a fine slot player. Uh. You know, he had a drop in the game the other day. That would have been a big, big player. He'd had better numbers than that. But this guy's very keep well. You got to be able to run with him all day. They put him in the backfield too on occasion fake to jet sweep in the game last week. So Tavon Austin, he's maybe he's kind of their Tavon Austin, a guy that can move around do some different things, no doubt. Ye. I wish Tavon Austin would have caught

that ball the other day because it was there. I thought it was there, and I really did, and you know, I mean it was It's a I didn't call it a tough chance because you know, we've seen him make plays like that down the field and practice and you know in Oxnard and stuff and haul it in everyd's like, oh, he should have extended his hands. But if he was six three he would have caught it. If Bryce Butler was there, he would have caught it. Because it came

down he had to catch it low. Yeah, and the guy was able to come in with his hand and trying to interfere with him, and he basically scissored his arms. Yeah. They don't call interference anymore in this league. I don't think. Yeah, really there there's there's nothing called with extreme consistence. There was a couple in that game I thought questionable. You don't watch many Big twelve games, do you? Oh? I watched enough SEC games. Big twelve. They will let you.

They will let you just kill receivers down the field. They don't care. They don't care. But they score a lot of points though too. All right, I mentioned practice, but we started talking receivers, and I just thought, let's just get this out of the way, all right. The does Bryant if you want to call it news, then pop the does Bryant tweet that popped up yesterday. Yeah,

what were your thoughts on that. He tweeted that responding to a fans question about where he wants to end up as a free agent, let me pull it up real quick, he said, I'd rather it be the Dallas Cowboys. If not, I'll be ready to play somewhere else. And man, that caught wildfire. Yeah. Twitter, hmmm, I knew you were gonna say that. Do you just try to set me up? Yeah? I want it. Yeah, make you take a shot at Twitter. Yeah, I want to get a Mickey's minute out of this time.

We haven't done that in a while. Anything could be said on Twitter, right, you don't even have to mean it. Well he said it though, Yeah, Now I understand. I didn't take much of it, because, look, des Bryant was released by the Dallas Cowboys. It was not his decision to leave. I think he's in his heart. He's probably a Dallas Cowboy for life. I think he loved wearing the star, probably more than anybody I can remember covering. So it's not a shock to me that he'd want

to come back now. It's just the first time though, that he's kind of called out the team in a way of I'd like to play like he's kind of hinting that he knows something that we don't know. You could is does grand standing here? Mickey? Well, my question is this, I mean, why did they do it in the first place? Yeah, and are they so desperate that they'll forgive themselves for the reason they did it in the first place because they didn't have to do it.

In my opinion, it wasn't financial either. Yeah, if you ask me, my opinion, he would be the best receiver on this team. Well, he was the best receiver on the team last year. If he came back, he would certainly be the most accomplished if he came back. If he came back, yeah, he was the best last year. Okay, So and it was a bad year for him. Yeah, if this if this team, if and you know rightfully, so, these guys are doing the best they can. You know,

they're trying. Alan Hearns and these guys, I mean they're trying. They've got some they've got some you know, they've got some things they got to work on. But for the most part, you know, but he if he brought him back, he would be the best. And I hope I'm not speaking I'm speaking of me. I'm not speaking for you, guys.

I think he would be the best receiver on this team, even with all the things that with all the things that are kind of swirling about, even not you know, practicing or playing or being in camp and all that stuff, I still think he'd be the best receiver on this team. He would until he drops one. Well, the team has already a drop. No, I'm saying, everybody will be holloing. I don't disagree with you. He was the best receiver last year. I didn't want to. I didn't want to

put anybody on the spot. But I'll say that. I'll say that if I think that he would be if he came in and was in shape, he would be the best receiver on this team, all right. I would give that. I would give that to Cole Beasley maybe, but that's a different type of receiver that you know. Dez gives you something consistently on the outside. At least somebody maybe do account for so. I hear you there,

I just don't. I don't see it. I think they've gone in a certain direction and they probably want to see it through, and they made that decision, and you know that maybe they want front office too. You want to say, Okay, we've gone this route and we wanted to give it time and see it bear out. And Mickey's been talking about, look, we got to see this through. We gotta give and not seeing everybody's trying to read into what Steven said, you know, and he has been

consistent about that. You know, we're not going to rule out anything, right, and you should shouldn't and you shouldn't, right, you shouldn't. I mean that's if he says, if he says absolutely no, then that gives Dez kind of a black mark to try to find a job. Right, they would like him to find a job, solute, But we're five weeks into the season. Yeah, does he want to play football? You know, it's it's it's it's something that you've been really consistent about saying, Mickey, And I think

it's worth worth talking about. Does he want to play football? I think you know, I've I've heard you say that. I've been with you on all these shows and I was with you last night and I think you said the same thing, and I'm and it's worth talking about. Does he really want? Yeah? Does he really is? Why is he now having to get in shape? Why was he not in shape, and you know earlier. And that's that's the thing that I that's the he's he's not wrong, and does he ask? Yeah? And does he I'll take

it another step. Do you does he want to play football somewhere besides Dallas? Because I just said, and I'm not in his head, I don't know. I haven't talked to Daz, but you know, I just said, I think he is more. He has been more proud of wearing that star in his helmet than anybody question. I mean, no question. This guy, no questions. So yeah, I mean, it's it's fair to bring it up. But you know, maybe he's also trying to look for the right situation,

you know, elsewhere besides here. And see, I don't think the thing that does I don't think Dez has put aside the fact that he probably is not going to be a Dallas Cowboy anymore. I don't know if and this is to Mickey's point, I don't know if he wants to go be a Cleveland Brown or New Orleans Saint or Chicago Bear. I don't know. I don't know, if you know, or Green Bay Packer turned down an

offer reportedly from the Ravens. Yeah, I don't know if he necessarily and maybe maybe instead of saying does he want to play football? Does he want to play football for another team? Yeah? Does he want to move to New Jersey and play with the Jets? Yeah? See, I trust me. I'd love to see Dez Bryant back here, and I think he could help. I really do. I think he could give them a little energy, you know,

on the offense, a little jump over there. I mean, is it is it any worse than what's been going on? And I don't mean worse. I just don't see the overall productivity. So your biggest play in the game the other day was made by a running back down the field. You know, that was your biggest play. So I don't know necessary. I mean, I think these receivers are good. And the thing is, I think the chance. I think Gallup has a chance to be really good. But right

now he's not. You know, so where where are you? Cole Beasley? I think is playing as well as he could play in his role. He's not an outside receiver consistently. It's I mean, they're they're trying to Alan Herns. I thought Alan Hearns played the best he's played the other day, Thompson was a non factor. See to me, if you're gonna tell me you're gonna go out and you're willing to get and to go out and get the you know,

the guy off the street. Butler, Butler really Okay, Well, why why wouldn't you go get the other guy off the street? You know, I have more confidence in the in Bryant than I do. Butler, Well, how much of the decision to let does go was for whatever reason? And they seem to get on along fine and off of the field, but on the field, he and Dak

they just didn't have a connection. You're right, you're right, and and there's but you got to remember this about Dez that he left his and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong. He left his friendship Dez with Tony Romo to support Dak Prescott in that twenty sixteen season. He basically said, Okay, for the good of the locker room or for the good of this team, we need to play with Dak Prescott, even though Tony Romo had

made him millions of dollars throwing him the football. But he put that aside and said, hey, we gotta go with this guy maybe, you know, I mean he in the locker room. I mean that's important. I mean he could have come out and said, you know, this is stupid, this is foolish. You know, we need to go back to Tony here. But he didn't, you know. So I my thoughts are though that you know that there's a lot of things that happen. There's a lot of things

that happened. But Dak Prescott should also remember that at that point Dez Bryant had his back when when he was a young guy and he really didn't have I mean, people were kind of looking at him like can he do this? Des Bryant's one of those guys, as some said, we gotta ride with this, we gotta go. Yeah. So, I mean, if if Dak has problems, I understand, I'm not gonna act like I'm Dak Prescott. I'm not saying Dak doesn't want him back. I'm just saying their chemistry

on the field, they just they never seemed to click. Yeah, especially last year for whatever reason. Clock seventy passes last year sixty nine. Sorry, yeah he was targeted, but hundred yeah, I mean yeah, there were plays, there were more plays to be made that weren't made. So I think so

is that why they let him go? Well, let's also remember though, how many games did did I mean did does play when they didn't have didn't have the running game, they didn't have the six games suspension, and that there's no question that with Zeke being the focal point, you can't just look at a receiver's numbers on this team and say, yeah, that's a bad year. Yeah, there's no question who was gonna beat him last year when Zeke was gone? Who was gonna beat you if you were

the defensive coordinator. Yeah it see, I make sure he doesn't. Well, I tried to take cole Beasilely away too. They did, I mean, they focused on him maybe more than does it. No question, Well, the linebacker wasn't gonna cover Dez. There's no question to me. This is where if if if there were And again twitter edwarder reaching out to people in the organization, people saying no, that's not gonna happen. Okay, I don't know who Edward talks too, but he is respected.

He did tweet that last Yeah, So I'm just saying, I mean, we can you know some of us, you know, we live here, We'll figure things out. But you know, I think right now it's des wanting to play for the Cowboys. The Cowboys are saying, well, we'll see, We'll see as we get down the down the road. But it goes back to why did they let him go in the first place. Why? Why do you think that that reason still got to be there? Well, why do you think I never got a good answer on that?

Culture change? Maybe more of it than maybe I just I was told by two or three different people that that Jason Garrett was the last guy that was in on this. That not mean last guy that brought into the deal, that he was the one that was very adamant about are we doing the right thing? And I and I've and I've busted Jason Garrett hard, you know, and there's things I think. I think he does a great job at personnel. I questioned some of his coach

and stuff. But he was the last guy. I was told from from good sources that he was the last one in. And it looks and you know, if that's if that's the case, then whatever the reason was, it's still there. It's still there. And whether that's Lenahan, Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones, Will McClay, Sanjay Lyle. I don't know, I don't know who, but there there were people that and and they like to tell us that they like to make group decisions. So if if you know, say what

you want. But I will give the coach credit. He did. He was like, when are we really doing the right thing here? And I was told that from a couple of different people I really trust. So let's take that with whatever you think. All right, let's take our final break. We come back. That's a way to get a segment out of the way. That's a yeah, that's a long segment too. By the way, we only got a few minutes. Let No. Eight five two two nine seven is the

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practice practice? What do you expect to see out there today? What could we see? We don't have a report yet, but they got some some guys who were banged up. Terrence Williams wasn't with the team over the weekend, so the head coach said he'd be back on Tuesday. He was back in the building yesterday. Okay, yes, so he should be back at practice. I think that MALIEK. Collins will be limited. I think he'll do something. I don't know if it'll be enough. See if he's got that

body wrap off his knee, it's pretty extensive. Although he was moving well. Yeah, he's on the chords. Last week said human log. Yeah, human logs got the calf wrapped up. Is that what you said the human log did? Yes? Now what that means for his practice status, I don't know. Jason Garrett was hopeful. I think you'll see David Irving out there doing something. Got your yeah, undertackle there by the way I did the math, this will be if they go in pads today. This will be his first

practice in pads in three hundred and eight days. I mean it's almost a year, folkus, that's a long time. You have to go back to November right two days before Thanksgiving, because he played the Thanksgiving game, got the concussion, didn't play the rest of the season. Yeah, and he didn't do anything obviously, he missed eight games, only played eight.

Can I make an observation on David Irvy, Yes, I'm gonna try and read into what the head coach said about at him, and the head coach called him a freak of nature, which made me believe that he's going to play this weekend. I'm thinking, I mean, just by the way, and I know they have some issues that really at the nose tackle more than they do the under tackle. Well, he can play. Let him play either one but the way the head coach called him a he kind of looked away and said, you know, he's

a freak of nature. That led me to believe that man, he's going to try and make this, not make he is going to give this guy every opportunity to play this week fifteen snaps. That's what I said, And as I said, and I think I said it last night. If he does nothing else on nickel downs but stand up at six to seven and raise his hand arms above his head, that's pressure on the quarterback because you've

just taken away a passingly. Yeah, we'll let him take advantage of Zach Fulton that plays guard for the Texans because he is a big, lumbery guy and that quickness to length to reach all that stuff. Say, what you don't want is to get him hurt. Yeah, Like he pulls a hamstring, right, and then he's gonna miss three more games. And now at seven. What happened to him at the end of the the season was a concussions. Got

a concussion. Yeah, so he missed eight games. Geez, yeah, so here four games the suspension last year, so and this is his last year I was contract to concussion. Was Thanksgiving? Yes, so he probably didn't even hardly practiced that week. Well, I looked it up. He practiced the last practice Tuesday before Thanksgiving. It was probably beginning shells probably, so he probably hadn't had pads on unless he's been running around LA with pads on when he was working out.

Knowing him, he might no with the spikes on him. He might be hanging out, you know, like some club Michael, when Michael Irvin was rehabbing his ACL and he was running out at Valley Ranch with bier Bar. I just swear, I'm trying about the pad like it's in the black hole, that kind of that look. Yeah, be like what he going into the hospital in Baltimore with his pads on, cleats that's a great story. Yeah his cleats on? Yeah, what was that story behind his forearm? He broke his

forearm in the game. He heard his forearm and they're in the New Stadium in Baltimore and they claimed that the X ray room wasn't functioning properly. So Britt Brown walked him across the street in full uniform to the hospital. Yeah, went to the emergency roob I needed X ray? Wow, Yeah, no time to check in here. Yeah, don't worry about Yeah, exactly, I don't know what the group number is. X ray. I don't have time to fill out the forms. Just give me the x ray X rate it. It was fractured.

And what his response was, can you tape it up and I will go play. Yeah that sounds like Woody, that's wood Yeah exactly right. All right, Well, well, well they've got they've got more questions inside defensive tackle and how they're going to play the rotation. I'm interested though, once they do get the rotation, when the human log and Collins and those guys are all back, what does that do for Crawford? And what does that do to Taco? Does that mean now? And does what does that do

for what does that do for Randy? For Randy Gregory? Yeah, I mean, I'm just talking about if you move, if you move Crawford back to defensive end, I don't know if I want to do that. We talked about that in the mail bag this morning. Then what are you gonna do with David Irvin? Is he gonna be a fifteen twenty play player game? He might He might need a couple weeks of that. I could see Ross being a guy that's out by the way. Maybe they with all these guys that they do, get them all coming back.

If they need that spot for David Irvin, maybe it is going to be one of those guys, and somebody does need to be Saturday, we focused in. I focused in on the wide receivers. Maybe we need to focus in on those defensive tackles Read or Ross. You know, he did play a little one technique initially before he got to the three, right, But I wonder if that's going to be the case. And when you get everybody back healthy, is that going to affect Taco's ability to

start it right in? And what does that due to Randy Gregory? You got a glut there on the outside of all of a sudden. Oh boy, what a problem to hit. It's a good problem now, absolutely, And they have a couple injuries too. Will Fuller dealing with a hamstring. Yeah, it'd be nice if he didn't play. Happened in the game last week. Yeah, Lamar the running back. All they'll say is he's banged up. They are, he's banged up because they don't block for him. He gets he gets

hit a lot. They're doing hockey on him. It's just upper body injuries, not even that it's just banged up, no details. And then their guard h Calamente. Yes, he says he has been bothered by a knee. He missed the previous game and then he came out and came back in against the Colts. So he's dealing with a knee problem. So they've got a couple of things that they're gotta check out. All right, let's grab one more phone call before we get out of here. Phil in Louisiana, Hey, guys,

take us home. What's up? All right? Take you home? Okay? Finish? Uh? Oh Phil? Hang on, Phil, walk about four feet? Walk outside Phil? Okay? Where what city? Where? Manufactured house? I'm in? Okay, there you go, man. Yeah, Brian, I was reading some experts from Gary Meyer's new book, and it just reminded

me of a couple of things. First thing it reminded me of is how much I missed Randy Galloway's writing from the Secondly, it reminded me of how I'm not saying the average fan because I do wouldn't want to

have gone that far. But reminded me how much I have to temper my enthusiasm about the long term success of the franchise with Jerry and the way he has a litmus test for coaches, it just it was almost deflating to the point I just wondered if anybody, any of you guys felt like playing Randy Galloway right now and tell me what he how would would get Randy Galliway say, I remember that article he said, well, they're gonna fire the general manager. Jerry's not gonna fire. So

that's that was one of my favorite Randy Galliway stories. Yeah, yeah, Randy, Randy was grab did radio. Randy, matter of fact, brought me into the media side him and John Lund who do who does work out in San Francisco in the Bay Area now, and Randy would always tell me, he would say, broad us, watch what I'm gonna do here. I'm going to I'm gonna fire Tony Romo, I'm gonna trade Dez Brighton. He would do that. He would say that just to get people riled up on the just

to get people riled up on the line. Randy taught me, he said, hey, you get fifty percent of people that hate you, fifty percent of people that love you. He goes, you're doing a pretty good job, So that's you always kind of strive for there. But yeah, I just think, yeah, I'm not a huge Gary Myers fan, so I probably won't read his book. But anyway, I got it if you want it. No, I don't want to read Gary Myers.

I'm not a big Gary Mars fan. But anyway, I just feel like though that you know, this the ownership here, I mean, if that's where we're going to, you know, he is the general manager. A long time ago, Al Davis told him. He says, you don't need a general manager. You can run this team yourself. That's as an owner, you have that right. And you know that's that's the

direction he's taken. For the good, for the bad. You know, I think he's he's you know, he's had his proud moments where he won the Executive of the Year, and he had his bad moments where we weren't picking players very well in the early two thousands and he had to make a decision on Bill Parcels. When did he win Executive of the year? Uh? Two years ago. Two years ago he was he was executive two years ago.

He was Executive of the year when the head coach was a head Coach of the Year, right of the year too, and so he I asked Jerry that question too. I go, is prouder than winning a Super Bowl? And he said, damn close? You know. So you know it, take what you want, the good the bad. This guy does pour his heart and soul and his in his pocketbook into this football team. Has it always been successful? No, it hasn't, has it? But it has it? You know, it's it's not from trying. This guy does try, and

we'll see how it all plays out. You hear it coming up? Was that the year without Romo? It was? And they both won those awards. Yes, every time I've tried to fire Garrett, he's won thirteen twelve games in thirteen games. So Will McClay should have won some awards that year, Yeah, he should have. Draft was pretty pretty stellar. He should have had a Draft award. He would have won it that year. That's right, that's right, all right, we're out of time. I missed my live read Cowboys

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