Talkin' Cowboys: Breaking Down The Week 8 Win

fixed it, We got you. He's Andy Mickey. That's right, he is. You guys know that he's a technician too, double as an engineer. For Halloween tomorrow. Oh, I look forward to that costume, cool belt and everything for the two belt on. Yeah, yeah, one of them one es. Yeah, what onesies? All the one piece guys that work, they work in those one piece coveralls. No, not covert overalls, you're right, yeah, they are coveralls. Coveralls. Now the lighter

one that's coveralls, overalls. Coveralls are the full suit like your dad wore in the fifties. Dad never had the overalls with you. When I had overalls, when I was in college, by the way that you did here in college making stories. Oh yeah, so especially on a victory Monday, overalls and painter and white painter pants. Good and rested, good and rested, Yes, rested. I feel great. Feel that you do, Brian. Keep talking yourself into that, Rob, I

feel great. We're energetic, we're excited, we're happy. That's a real quick question. Please do when you guys were sitting to wait to get on the airplane, how does how it was arranged? Just like pouring down on her they take you through the it stopped, it stopped pretty much stopped. Yeah, your head is when you always stand in they get off the bus getting on the plane, and everybodys take in their time, like Scott might have been the only fifteen minutes it didn't rain. Hired time we were there

on Sunday that it didn't rain. Wow, that's I was thinking about you guys. Everybody's standing to just going. But the wind was blown and it was cold. I was thinking more about Kent because well, yes, we need to get to that. He was kind of wet. Garrison. Yes, I mean, we you're so nice, Rob, you got it. kN I mean I wasn't even Well, there's a couple factors there. You were stuck in the rain, Tay and

I and Mickey pregame, we had a little rain. We mostly missed it, stuck in that press box with such a beautiful view, and I was able to see that clock the entire time. Knowing what's going on in the game. I could have been here with Ryan and actually done a better job. They're down in distance. Yeah it's hard to see. Some don't say that too loud. Yeah that's okay. I know you had missed me. They know they might

save money. Yeah. Well. Ken Garrison also lost his camera in a tragic accident as Josh Norman just humbled into him on the sideline, and you tweeted at him, Kent, you can explain. I jokingly tweeted at him saying, thanks for busting up my camera. We did have some issues after the game trying to shoot our little first word and uh, he's a stand up guy, he replied and said, send me the voys. I got you so so awesome shout out Josh Norman. Well make sure you send it.

Send it message. I was telling I was joking around, saying, you know what, Josh, my bat kind of hurts too. Settle this through Vinmo Mickey saying, make sure you send it. That's pretty awesome. That was great, all right, Well some people did send it yesterday. It was a great game for Ezekiela. Did you know that was his career high and carries for thirty two? Needed every actually thirty three, thirty three. I apologize, Mick career high high. Wow, needed

every one of them season high in yards. The final thirty two were much better. Yeah, what do you mean, bubble? The first one was not so not so good. No, And I thought that was, oh no, is this the tone of the game, you know, like how bad? Was theather going to be a factor? Well? I was like, oh, you know, because going into it last week we looked at Brian, you had pulled those stats for us, and I was looking at it and the Redskins had total

fumbles of seventeen. Obviously last night that ended up adding to their number. But to start it, I'm like, no, Cowboys, don't be like this. Let the Redskins fumble the football, right, And it really wasn't weather that caused it. I think they punched it out. That's and he said after the game, that's something they're pretty good at pretty efficient at doing and you know, he said he's just got to be more careful with it, would you see on that brand? Yeah,

it was definitely that it was. But Smith and then uh the other the other defensive tackle, they were able to kind of get in there and and corral him and he saw the hand going. I thought initially Smith was the one that knocked it loose, but it was it was clearly out. You know, I was thinking, oh, maybe knee down. No, that wasn't the case at all. So, yeah, the red I mean, his fumbles had been only at FedEx. Yeah,

FedEx field three now, right, only ones you've had. You didn't get benched this time though, No, he's not going to plain benched himself. Whereber he walked after the second one. He just kind of ran off the field kind of like okay, okay, I'm done, I'm done with this. He had to reset himself to have the game that he did. Of course, he was the only guy who got the

touchdowns besides Byron Jones for the first defensive touchdown. Everybody since twenty fifteen, were you not calling for that recently? I did? Yeah, Well it's pretty easy when it's been about two years. It's got to come sooner rather than later. By yes, McLean was the last one to have it, right, Hey, yes, McLean sort of like Tacos first sack at some point. Well, I'm gonna be right, Lindsay was betting on that one pre game. That's two weeks in a row. She was

betting on Yaco sack. Yeah, but no. Let mean, hey, defensive line that played pretty well, well, let's get into it. Of course, in the first kind of quarter it looked like where is this defense? Everyone kept saying, Okay, this is going to be a game where the defense isn't showing up. They were having the big plays that everyone was concerned they were going to have, and then all of a sudden, I really believe the blocked field goal was the turn of it for them. Do you guys agree, Well,

it was the pivotal point in the game. Yeah, it was a pivotal point for the Deft. I just felt like the defense was Jews after that. Well, I'll tell you that to me. I just watching the game overall,

I thought the defensive line played outstanding. Myself thought the secondary was awful, you know, with the exceptional Orlando Scandrick, you know, and I know you get a win, but there were far too many plays that they they allowed, you know, and and if it wasn't for some drop passes, if it wasn't for some untime, for some timely blitzes or pressure or sacks, whatever, Yeah, this was going to be a struggle for I don't think Anthony Brown was great.

I really don't think that. I don't think that Jordan Lewis was great in this football game. But you know, they won, and that's what you have to have. We talked about, hey, which is going to help the others? The pass rush is going to help the secondary or the secondary help the pass rush. And I thought they caught some huge breaks yesterday in that football game with their pressure and then again some drops by the Redskins, and then it helped it they lose both of their

tight ends, Yeah, because that was occupying Byron Jones. They were playing him close to the line of scrimmage right almost the entire game to take on those tight ends. Yeah, Mickey makes a point about Byron Jones, and I love Byron Jones. I think that to me, you know, we saw what he did in training camp. But there's been some times. I promise you they worked on that that pick play that they threw in the flat to Thompson.

I know they worked on that play. That is a staple play of the Washington Redskins, and it goes for a huge game. And you know, Byron, you know they have some awareness about you. If you see formation, you know understand what the situation is. That's what they like to do. Ball goes for like eighteen yards. So, I mean, those are things when you when you're playing a football you can't afford to make mistakes like, yeah, that sound like we're losing football team today, but the secondary is

going to have to play better. Oh yeah, you're about to face some more. Yeah, quarterbacks, there's no light up. Yeah, there's no more. CJ. Beths didn't Why didn't Walt Anderson's crew that throws more flags than any other crew in the league not throw a flag on the pick because

it was pretty obvious. Yeah, but but they it looked like me, Mickey, The bigger problem I had with Walt Anderson in this game was the fact that he called a roughing penalty on on Wilson and he didn't get the roughing penalty on their linebacks say three, Yeah Brown, Walt Anderson was at such bad here. I'm bitching about the officials, but yeah, but what Walt Anderson is He's supposed to protect the quarterback. He's in such bad position. Prescott scrambles to his lap for four yards and gets

whacked in the side of the head. Was Zach Brown? I mean Zach Brown. He goes helmet the helmet and Walt Anderson is in such bad shape trailing to play. He can't see. I mean he's leaning looking for he couldn't find it. So now your quarterbacks laying on the ground getting hit, you know, getting hit in the head. But yeah, it's the holding call was questionable on Unsmith. No Cowboy, his opponent in the last sixteen quarters four

games has been called for holding. Yeah, well that's that makes sense because but I don't I don't recreate it for the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, there were a couple of Collins was bad and Collins was not good in this game. Block he was bad. It was bad with his hands, he was bad, with his positioning. He was bad. He was bad. It was a bad situation for tough, tough matchup for him. They flop guys both ways. But he had a he had he had a struggled that dead day.

But I'll tell you the Tyrant Smith penalty is standard operating procedure in the National Football League. You get your hands inside on a defensive lineman and that's how you block. That's what they do. Now you get them on the outside, they call holding. I get that inside. Nate Newton, I were talking about this last night and the post games show. He goes, I don't know how they I don't know how I would play anymore. Yeah, that's all I ever did was grab guys inside and push Nicky. Yeah, I

heard you. You were like, that's just pancake. Yeah, well they've learned to flop these guys. And then the other thing that's happening is you get your hands in side and you're blocking the guy and then he turns to run away and he goes down and it looks like you're grabbing him from behind after you wiped him out. Those guys, why don't they call the pick? It was a pick. It was obvious what they ran see. But that's and it's downfield. It was what five yards passed

the one? Yeah, it was past. I mean you get the route inside from Jordan Read. So I mean I think it was a read at the time that did it. But to your pointe, I mean those penalties, whether you like him or not, that's it just bogged him down so badly. Before the block punt, I mean there's three holding calls, wiped out drives. All of a sudden, the Redskins are driving to take a two score lead before the block field goal. Damien Wilson's just fifteen yards on

that penalty. Blatant penalty that led to their first Those helmet the helmet easy to call. But then again, like I said, you get helmet the helmet on the other going the other way on data and now you have to kick a fuel gold on that play. I mean where it should have been if if if Walt Anderson was doing his job like he did for their quarterback, you know your quarterback would have not had to suffer a blow to the head. Dak penalty didn't look much

different than what happened to Flacco a few nights ago. No, kind of the same thing really got kind of I mean, you could argue he's slid late, but he got hit right in the head. Oh no, you go helmet. The helmet with a quarterback in the National Football League, it should be called it's a penalty. It's a penalty. Even if you take your hand and swipe and hit the quarterback in the end head, it's a penalty. And so yeah,

that's that's the difficult thing. If you're getting a lot of penalties called on you, and then all of a sudden there's blatant penalties on the opposition, well then that that makes it even worse. But hey, cowboys did a great thing. They ran the football consistently. They didn't have to throw the football. They had more carries than completions, more yards rushing than passing yards. That's the recipe for them winning football games. Yes, absolutely. Now the defense has

a total of twenty five sacks. Yeah, yeah, And let's talk about some certain guys that because he brought up the d line did great. Tyrone Crawford now his third consecutive game of record in a sack and the last time that he was able to block a field goal was against Carolina in twenty fifteen. So, Tyrone Crawford, is he really stepping up? Are you guys excited to see his progress? What he's doing out there my rankom pick do I wouldn't rank him for this week? I think

you do give it to you? Thanks? Why not? Yeah, Brian, even though my guy did get another sack, your guy man and the league way, Well, we'll touch on that in the poll. Hopefully I haven't gotten one right yet. My guys think every week? Now, do you have Collins Collins? Oh? Yeah, I was thinking that I had Jason Witten pick an opponent next week and maybe they'll say her so broadest, sir, so well, I was just asking you about Tyrone. I

agree with what Brian wrote after the game. I think I think David Irving specifically returning from suspension has helped Tyrone so much because it adds another talented rusher that can free him up a little bit on that right side. And he's just been highly productive. I mean, that might have been the best game of his career. Yes, today, he was outstanding. When you think about special teams. He's also doing things to get other guys home. Yeah, with

their rushes. They're working in concert on the defensive line. He's been really really good lately. But I think they finally found a home for him. He's been moved around him at that right end, yes, but you weren't so sure about no. I was. I like Marinelli's philosophy of if we don't have speed to beat him over there, then we might as well use power, And that's kind of what they're doing. That's sack fumble though, was a dip of the dip of the left shoulder and turned

the corner. And guess what, since you mentioned his shoulder for a change, he's not playing with a torn rotator. Yeah, that's nice, and he's done that the past two years that needed surgery after each of the last two seasons. You know what, That right side is better for him because I think it's kept him healthy. Yeah, let's wear and tear on him over there. Even at left end. Left end, you're still taking on running plays. Right hand, you play the three technique, you're always facing some type

of block down, block, chip blocks, whatever you're doing. It's kind of like the Sean Lee theory. You put him away from like the action and let him go to the action, and they're going to get to the action. But that's with with with Crawford though he's not the only guy on the line now that I think that's helped him a lot too. The expectations are, we pay him forty million dollars, go make forty million dollars worth

of plays. Now he doesn't have to make forty million dollars worth of plays because you do have David Irvan, you do have Malie Collins, and you do have you do have the Marcus Lawrence. Those guys are kind of spreading things out though. You're kind of rotating some guys in there, and and it's working out really well. Everybody's got to eat, That's what Tank Lawrence said after the game. It's almost Thanksgiving time, so they're trying to spread around

feed the family. Yeah, and talking about feeding people, you'd think that Taco would be did you guys see his celebration after he thought he got the pick, he was already down and then you know Jalen, I think he was holding the Taco up and he stopped it away. Jalen started the celebration and then yeah, Taco, it was close. Yeah, Jalen's pick was too. Both of them made plays. Well, yeah, well they won't yeah never mind what oh no going that was very positive of making for Taco. It was

close to give him a break, guys. Yeah, you you're are you drifting away a little bit now there? And I'm trying to be on what on taco taco? No? No? Um, you know I thought he'd just because of how beat up their line was. Yeah, you thought one were fall in his lap. Yeah, you thought that he they might get there. Yeah, but you know what, they even when they weren't sacking him, they kept consistent pressure. Let's go back and look at their first series, first play of

the games, part of the game. Yeah, Lawrence was there, Um, the one passed down the field. Well, it was the one Wilson, uh got the personal fall on. Yeah. Crawford's a half a step away from a sack, right, and you know that kind of caused what happened, because he's pulling the quarterback down and when you're getting ready to tack and the guy, all of a sudden it's coming down and you know he's at your level. His aim

wasn't real good. Yeah. I saw that another game when whoever I can't remember it was, the quarterback or wide receiver caught the ball and they hit was coming and the guy lowered his horse. Yeah, and then he gets hit in the head and they flagged the defensive guy, Well, once you start your launch. If that was in the Rams game, maybe it was the Cowboys. I thought it was maybe Thursday night or earlier on s a different opponent. Yeah, yeah, it was another game, and it's like, you know, you

can't redirect once you're in the air. Yeah, so some of that stuff. I don't know that that crew was terrible. Okay, they were terrible, all right. Who was the one that like spit on you or the ref back in the day, Oh, Jim Quirk. Yeah, yeah, I yelled. I yelled. I was trying to yell on the sidelines making a bad a pick that the Dolphins ran, and he turned he goes what And as soon as he he said what, I'm like,

I'm like, all the splatter came. Oh gosh. I just walked back and I'm like, okay, that's what I get for yelling at official on the sideline. I just don't know who would want to sign up for that job. It's kind of a thankless job, isn't it. It pays well, It does pay well, and if you if you're good at it at it, if you're good keep saying job yeah, And if you're at hockey, then you just can show off your muscles every Sunday head to wear long sleeves.

Yesterday in Buffalo. He's a little disappointed. I bet he was. He went on, you give up your weekend to do that for three hours and make a couple of thousand dollars or that. I think some of those guys make a lot more than that. Really, you know, Oh yeah, you're gonna apply. If I didn't have if I didn't start the job I did, I would have maybe not maybe you're so passionate about it, maybe not football, but I definitely would have done basketball. I just to me though,

it's it's one of those things. And this is what I've always when this is the last thing I'll say about the officials until tomorrow. I always felt like, though that my livelihood was in their hands. That's why I have such a an angst about officials, because I always felt like that they get to go referee games next week after making bad calls, and I get fired because I didn't win enough games. It's got it. Yeah, That's where that's where I feel. That's where I feel my

anxiety towards officials. And now we have replay and we get a lot more right than we do wrong. But there's certain plays during a game holding calls. What if that the game was tight and you know, it came down whatever, that was the last drive and you're trying to win the game, and they call tren Tyren Smith for holding on that play when it's a standard NFL block. What if I mean that Ice Butler is running to the huddle and they call it a Bryce Butler play. Yeah,

but that's what I'm saying. I changed the playoffs. That's play. That's the problem I have with officiating, and and it's it's really on all levels. But yeah, it's try and get it right. Yeah, and then and then, And there's some of the time where they do get it right, and then there's other times where I'm like, what are you looking at? What are you doing? What do you look at? But anyway, hey, cowboys, a great job on

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boysure wicking fabric. It's beautiful. Yeah, that's great. It worked yesterday. Ezek Gilliot, he had his eleventh one hundred yard performance yesterday. One fifty yards gave him two thousand, three hundred and twenty one for his career. And he's wealth on the club's career rushing yards list. Yeah, climbing right up there, only sefteen thousand behind him at yeah. Yeah, that's that's not a lot, right gaining. Yeah, he's right there, He's

right there. So he had a great game, of course, Yeah, I mean he was just able to dominate, take an advantage of their defensive line. And what was it that he was so good at doing yesterday? What did you guys see? Go ahead, you got anything? I thought thought it was more of the same that we saw in San Francisco. I thought the front front line, the offensive line, did an awesome job creating holes for him. I thought he was decisive. I thought for the field and the conditions,

he was just really really good. I mean for running back to take care of the ball the way he did Dak too, by the way, um the execution was flawless. Really, I thought he was. I thought he was as good as he was really at any point this season. I thought he was persistent. There were some really nice holes early. Obviously, that first drive and he can go in from what

was it, twenty six yards out? No one touch you, Yeah, the first touchdown, But after that, you know, things got sloppy, it's raining, and he was just persistent and he was pounding for three and then it be four, sometimes it was six, and he just kept pounding and pounding and pounding. U And as I wrote for today, UM if if the judge in New York today later today needs to um judge irreparable harm if he's not on the field. Yeah, just sending her the tape of this game offense right there.

See what the irreparable harm will be if he's not on this football team. It's not just financial, Uh, it's the success he can have. I mean, he had one hundred and fifty yards. He nearly had half the total offense for the Cowboys. They only had three h seven. So, uh, you don't need any you don't And you know, I don't even want to hear about why we got this great offensive line and we got these other running backs

that can do this or that. What you saw yesterday and the day the Sunday before, that's that's two hundred and ninety seven yards in two games. And he took over the game, especially in the fourth quarter when they needed to kind of salt the clock away, and they had two drives that consumed over eight minutes. Eight minutes, and he told us late in that game he could barely he couldn't feel the ball. I mean he had the rain and the and they got cold. So that

was impressive. I agree with you the runner matters, but I just thought offensively, as an operation, they did a nice job. Again, especially given the conditions that first touchdown, he had Witten with a great seal block, the tight ends blocked well. I thought overall, they just did a nice job. All you needed to know is three years ago, on fourth down and one from his own forty eight yard line, Jason Garrett would have never gone for it on fourth down. Yeah, that's all you need to know.

There's so much faith in his ability to carry the football, not only short yard situations, but they handed to him on first down, they handed to him on second down. I'm I'm a big believer in completions and attempts, and the Cowboys are one of the best in the league when it comes to both. And you know, you continue to keep Dak Prescott's numbers where they're where they're at.

He's gonna make plays for you. But the way this football team is gonna win is handing the football to number twenty one and even when people know, even when people know that they're going to run the football, they still have success. And I felt like though inside, you know, with Frederick Cooper Martin, they were outstanding. Yeah, I thought they gave. He was very patient with the way he ram you know that he let things develop a little bit upfront, found some alleys, you know, had to hang

on the football. There's a couple of times where he could have busted some I thought, some bigger runs. But you see him two hands on ball late in the second half and he's falling forward. He's just trying to keep forward, keep forward, don't fumble the football, and it takes a lot of I think the first fumble he had was a was a big play on the Redskins part. But from that point on the thirty two other carriers,

like Mickey talked about, we're all quality carriers. There were a couple for no game, but there are a couple of them that they could have been losses and stuff like that, and he was able to fight his way back to the line of scrimmage. But when I could say, when Jason Garrett has decided to go for it on fourth down on his side of the fifty yard line. That's all you need to know about the confidence they got in as he could, I went, I need to go back and look at because we've talked about that

without hesitation. They've done that at points this year, right short, Have they done that inside their own territory? I don't believe they done it inside their own terror. That was a surprise. I expected him to punt that despite the fact that their trust in him. That's I mean, that's probably the book probably tells you to punt regardless of

who you're running back in your offensive. There were a couple of times, I think it was in maybe the second the second half, when they were kind of in these weird situations somewhere around the fifty yard line Washington forty, when you're probably weren't going to try a field goal, right, and it's third and five. I was sitting there, going just run it twice. Yeah, just run it twice. Don't throw the ball, run it right, because he's gonna pick up five yards and two carries if you're willing to

go for it on fourth down. And um, yeah, their fourth down conversion rate it's amazing. Third and one two yeah, no third and one to pick it up. Yeah, with the with the with the the ability, with the read option, and just to straight hand him the football. And even when they put Smith in there too, some of that stuff. I mean, Smith was digging guys out yesterday. That's a good sign right there. But it doesn't matter one back, fullback,

whatever you want to do. Mickey's right. If all of a sudden this turns into this turns into we're gonna lose this guy, that's gonna be I don't even want to. I don't want to think about it because you look at the offense, the way the offense go. I would not want to put everything on Dak Prescott, and I mean that it's no disrespect to Dak, but we've kind of seen when things don't work great running the football well last year. That's why I thought Zeke as great

as Dak was. It's the hardest position to play in sports. My opinion, quarterback Zeke was the MVP because everything they did fed off of him in the running game, right down in distance and the boots, all that stuff. Everything. The threat of Zeke in different ways passing game as well, made it makes Dax's jobs so much easier and the receivers. So Ezekiel is in New York. He did not fly back with the team last night. He went straight to

New York to handle everything that's happening today. The hearing and will begin at five pm Eastern time four pm Dallas time. Now, from what I'm hearing and you guys, I'll let you take it from here, there will not be a decision today, and there might not even be a decision until maybe as late as Thursday. Is that correct? Sounds like it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, who knows what how fast she'll susion. I'm sure it's not going to be today. No, it's not. It's late

as the hair's gonna be. I mean, she's got to catch the train go home. I was curious though, just because they ruled from the bench on the t ro a week ago or whatever. Yeah, I guess this is more of a drawn out as a more pensive yeah yeah, process. So yeah, I'm sure the Cowboys want to hear something as soon as possible. It's just frustrating. If I was Zeke's team, I'd say, you guys, you know what Mickey

just said, the irreparable damage. But it's exhausting for a player to have to go from Dallas to Washington for a road game in the rain, then back to New York. Now he's there for you know, hopefully until just tomorrow, right, you know, And it's like, how how is that not irreputable damage? I mean, twenty two years old, I know, But what I'm saying is that it's distracting. But you know, keep in mind, wears on you. Yeah, I mean, and he admitted that, And keep in mind, no matter how

young you are, just in your mind. Like he was suspended for a day or two a couple weeks ago, So it's that whole thing. What's going on? Am I playing tomorrow? Am I available? Like that's got to wear on your mind, But it hasn't bothered him one seven, one fifty. Yeah, I'm talking more like, you know, just handling it all. So props to him for showing that, you know, he can go in there and do this,

And that's a lot I've learned about him. It might take him a little time to get going, you know, first couple of weeks in a season, the season, Yeah, the same thing last year, right, Yeah, maybe it takes him. Maybe it's not bad offensive line play or missing cuts or whatever. Maybe it just takes him a little time to get going because he looks he clearly looks better. He looks he looks like maybe maybe it's some of them the opponent too, I think that, But you know

what he looks. He looks like a better back these last three weeks. Who used the word patience? Did you? Yeah? He was in the beginning of the season both times. Yeah, he was just rushing to get in there and plow. And now he's like, all right, let's set it up, developed and set it up. I'll pick it and kind of wait. Yeah, I thought he did that a lot yesterday, even in the bad track. Although the field held up pretty good. Sam, they still yeah, it wasn't bad. It

didn't get fluttered or anything. There's a pretty good crown on it too, by the way, Um, but oh Lee, it's never just stopped raining. Did you see Sean Lee blow a shoe yesterday? No? I did. I didn't say, Is that why he Yeah, everybody's off and I saw everybody's like, oh no, they're doing something with his ankle. His Sean Lee wears the same shoes. He won't let Bucky souls blew out. Yeah, the toe of it popped out.

He was running into the sidelines and in his front of his toes came out of the front of his shoe. Some guys keep those shoes, he did, Bucky, Bucky told me because I asked him. I asked Bucky after the game, I said, did shut because there was I thought that maybe Sean Lee got hurt again. And then he came back and I'm like, oh no, not one of these, And I said, wait a minute. He blew his shoe out. How did fun of his shoe? Just he he planted in the in the toe popped. Has he got a

hole in the toe support? I don't know if it's that, but it just, Bucky said, old shoes and it just blew out. They dry rode my hiking shoes. Change my hiking shoes? Did that up on the mountain. This won't change. Some guys don't change. David Irving's got the same pair of ye won't change a couple of years. He got the souls replaced for comfort. But Dan Bailey had had the same for so many years, the same one, So that transitions us nicely into the old. Mike Nugent talk.

I think he lent him to nugent. Yeah, that's why he was able to kick so well. Oh that was nice. Guy's nervous after that first one, though, I was nervous. Line with Mickey, I called it. I watched him warm up. He said, this is got a pronounced hook he does almost every time off the left hash. And then when he was on the left hash yeah. And I said, and it's this far that hook's gonna get him. It's gonna get him, and it did. What was his longing

warmupst three. You guys did a great job by the way of tweeting out the warm up stuff that helped us on our pregame show. And he didn't really try from fifty five, but he would have made he had the distance from fifty five. No rain at that time, though, right, yeah, there was. There was minimal. It was, yeah, because if I was out there, it wasn't raining when we were

getting on the plane last night. You know. This was after the game, and he accounted for fifteen of the thirty three points for the Cowboys, of course, four or

five field goals and the three extra points. And he's walking past keitho quinn, who works with special teams and he's like, hey, great job tonight, Mike, and he goes still so much to work on, and I was just like, oh, poor guy, Like last Sunday you were just taking your daughter to the zoo and Columbus and today you know, you're kicking field goals and extra points for the Dallars Cowboys and you got Damn Bailey looking over your shoulder, like,

do better, big guy. I'll tell you what though, I after that first miss, I even tweeted this out and I believed it. I'm glad that he I'm glad Coach Garrett did what he did, though, I thought that that was going to change the way they thought about kicking Foo was the remainder of the game. I'm telling I mean, if you get to a certain distance, we talked about going forward, we talked about, hey, do you have to get closer? Do you have to do things to try

and manage that situation a little bit better? But hey, what's surprising the most to me about that, though, is the Cowboys usually take those turnovers and score touchdowns. Yeah, they had penalties. No, No, I'm just saying no, that's why he had to kick the forty nine. Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm with you all the way. That was that the Witten hole. There were two holes on that drive. See that's I'm saying though. But Dallas usually is so good at just taking those those kinds of plays and just

punishing you. Yeah. That was the weird thing because they got the takeaways, and all they got out of them, if I remember correctly, were field goals. They had three drives that started inside Redskins territory, not counting the picks six by Byron, and they got thirteen points out of it. Yeah, so he got one touchdown Washington forty five, the Washington twenty six were and then there was a Washington two. Yeah,

that was that. That was a touchdown. Yeah, but your field goals were Washington forty five, Washington twenty six, and Dallas forty three, which, by the way, Cavan Frasier got ripped. He he had that fumble recovery and they gave it to Ben Rickery. Well, he came up with the ball, he had it in his hand. So I saw him in I saw him in the locker room, and I'm going you had that ball, didn't you? He goes, yeah, what happened? Well, how about that? Though two special teams

plays back to back weeks. You talked about turno, right, you get one on a last week in San Francisco. That kind of gets you go in the right direction. Then this week you have another turnover, big hit by Keith Smith. So that's good. You're creating turnovers on special teams and they're they're they're cashing in on those things

that right there, that's that's that's living. Right. If you can do that back to back weeks with three takeaways, it is and that's not counting the block field goal, which technically doesn't count, but that should be considered a takeaways should be eighty six years the first time the defense had boasted such a streak since last season. New York Giants Tampa Bay really good because, I mean the things that we talked about offensively, and Zeke was great

and Dak was really good. But you're only five or fourteen on third down, you're only two or five in the red zone. It's those takeaways they got that that got them. I mean they scored nineteen nincher points with the block field goal after that, so that was the difference in the game. Yeah, Now talking about special teams, Ryan Switzer. There was a lot of discussion about how he was fielding the puns and kind of handling that. Do you guys think he did a good job or

how would you evaluate his performance on that? Can I focus on the kickoff return that he knelt, please? I think he did the right thing there. He did because if you look at usually your hands team is littered with guys that aren't used to blocking. Uh does Bryan's a good blocker on the outside, but you're talking about dropping back and forming up. They probably had four guys

on that return team. Jason Witten was one of him that I don't know the last time Jason Witten had to block on a kickoff return, But I think he did the right thing. After what you saw Chris Thompson fumble and where that ball ended up. They had Washington all three of their time outs. It was four twenty six. I want to say, left in the game, you do not want to give them the football right there and let them with a chance to tie that football game. You just don't want to do that. So I don't.

I have absolutely no problem with the decision that he made. Everybody's like kind of why do you do that? Why why did that become an issue anyway? They just thought it was a very strange play. Well, and there were a couple of those punts. But if you know, if you were like, why that part of it? That part of it, I would agree that part. Yeah, the wind rain, Yeah, So then it kind of compounds on itself and then

it's like, whoall, why do you do that too? Because they basically told him, did you hear Garrett today this morning?

I mean, he talked about what they were doing just right, Ryan said, and he said, I wish he would have been just a little more aggressive, meaning he could have gone further right before he took Well, if you watch and he didn't have any blocks, you know, if you go if you go back Nicky and watch, which I know you will, there were three guys on top of him when he was when he knelt down, and so the last thing I would have wanted to see is all of sudden he's running trying to make a play.

One of those guys punches the ball. Lose. Now the Redskins have the ball inside you're you know, you're twenty five yard line. You should have been more aggressive, maybe, I think he I think it was a football, intelligent play. I really really now though, time to make him mistake. Now, the punt return stuff is a circus. Yeah, that's that's a circus. And and you need I don't know if he's losing it, if he's tracking it well, but he that that that itself is he's costing him feel position

that way. Now I understand too. It's rain, it's wind, it's all this stuff. But you know, they put you back there to be good at that and make sure you're good at that. And he's made some questionable decisions. Ever since the Arizona game. We've seen kind of a little bit of a struggle there with Arizona was a

positive game, then some struggles his last few weeks. He's got to go up and just catch the ball and fair catch it, right, the one that there was one or two that bounced in front of him, now one that went over his head. The wind got it, wind gusted him. Yeah, and again you know the other thing, let's remember you're you're looking up into driving rain and you ain't got a shield down. So you know, I'm okay with just being conservative not turning the ball over

in that situation. But if it's not raining, you gotta go up and make a fair catch, right, you can't let the ball bounce and then it rolls fifteen yards behind you. The one that went over his head. It didn't look like it was windy because the ribbons on the gold uprights weren't moving. But Dak said it was really windy up there. Yeah. So, and then the ball slippery. And you know those kicking balls yea. By the way, they don't change those out, so you got a set

number of balls that are approved. And you know they're absorbing water too, the poor kickers. That's like that, all of a sudden, you're kicking a brick. Yeah, yea. So there was a better decision at an issue. But yeah, better decision, bear catch. You gotta go up and make the food football intelligent, play better decisions in the execution. You can get better at that room for improvements. Hope. Yeah. Well, let's take our final break here and we will get

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fresh pepperoni, top notch. And if you get a pan pizza for ten bucks, boy, don't miss it. Yeah, like you're calling calling Papa John right now? Exactly. I think they're calling me that. Yeah. Yeah, I'll tell you what though, last night you could have got Papa John's. You had a long baseball game. May you order a couple of those fregman man shot you? Oh? Well, you know where he's really from is from Mexico. It's from Albuquerque in New Mexico. Yeah, I went to my rival high school

at Albuquerque Academy. Nice. Yeah, absolutely, I'm glad he did. So did you watch all five hours? You know what? I got home. I could have sat down and watched I was. I was exhausted, though. I don't know how you guys stand to set there and watched it in the rain, But I was exhausted. We got home. I got home after writing about eleven thirty last night, So I just kind of packed it in. Yeah, I was nturing it after we landed because black Wall was given us up that he's got a device somehow it works

okay in the in the air. How do you do? Do you still have your device where you could hold it? I still have it, but I haven't tried it late Mickey, I remember up the radio call Mickey. We'd be thirty eight thousand feet in the air and Mickey would be getting Georgia football on Raid on it by the window and Tenna hanging down. He's like, and he'd move it a little bit. He'd get a little clearer and there's

the moon again, you know. Before the street before they they changed the TV broadcast to it used to be analog digital siginal stuff. I had one of those handheld TVs that are have like three inch screens, and I could I could in the air. I could pick up stuff right. So one time I was flying, I wasn't

on the charter. I was flying commercially in first class, and I kind of had it on and I strung it through and had earphones on, and the flight attendant comes by and goes, are you listening to some watching something? I go, yeah, sort to well, you can't do that. You'll mess up our navigation. Yeah, And I said, so, if we're fighting a war, all we have to do is go buy a bunch of these little TVs and throw him an enemy planes and they'll get lost. And

she looked at me. She goes, huh, I go, never mind, I'll turn it off. Nicky man doesn't like being told what to do. It was just tell me the right stuff. Want me to pay attention, that's all. Tell us about your Twitter poll, all right. I had a little fun with this one. Good d Law is back in the sack lee in the NFL Klais Campbell off off by so D Law sack in seventh straight games, ten and a half for the season. David Irving has played three games for the Cowboys this season. He has five sacks

in three games, including two yesterday. So the question is can Irving catch Tank in sacks ten and a half? Five? Right now? Does yes or no? When does this poll go up? Yes or no? Yes? This morning? This morning? Hey, y'all remind me on these road trips. Because I said no, no, I didn't get to vote. I usually So he has five sacks in three games, Yeah, he catch him. That's the question, yes or no? Can he catch him? Not? The d laws is gonna, you know, be a swoon here.

But who's the O line? Like, who's their matchup this week? The chief some kind? I think theo's better left or right tackle. Well, he's on pace for twenty five sacks too, yeah, Irving, Yeah, twenty six, twenty six. Yeah, I'm gonna say they're both. They're both chasing strayhand man. Both, they're both getting after him. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say he's got a shot. So yeah, all right, I think because he's here, it's to a game, you know what. And he and he's

getting him inside. He beats us guards, and it's hard, it's hard to double team him. Yeah, especially if Crawford continues to be uh active on the outside right and he's on the outside shoulder of the guard and that tackles got to take care of that guy. And with Collins playing on the inside shoulder of the guard and the outside shoulder of the center, those guys, that's a natural double team. He can't go the other way. They're gonna leave a big opening there, I'm gonna say. I'm

gonna say he's got a shot. Make is that a yes? Or are you doing the right in? Maybe I'm giving you a yes. Yes, Hey, as long as he's wearing Chester. You've asked Chester? Is Chester? Is the fox scarf worn around his neck? Oh? Peter? Maybe? Yeah? Much you think

he paid for that? I don't know, but I got some really cruel tweets when I no, just random people who are like I expected more from you that to promote someone wearing a dead animal, And I was like, I know that you guys are the same people who are getting mad at Brian about the numbers. And I just have a quick tailors time out for that, because if you guys are gonna be getting mad at Brian,

we're tweeting about the numbers. You know, I asked when they asked for the inactives, I give him the noters. I list seven numbers. So for me, it's like, you guys want Brian's scout take of everything else. You want him to tell you about what he saw on the tape and all that stuff. Well, scouts they refer to players by numbers because there are so many in a season, you have to keep up with numbers. So if you're

gonna want him to do that. You're gonna have to also put up with him saying the numbers and not calling him to get a roster. They called you lazy, called me lazy. I got called lazy by a guy. Oh no, he says you're you're lazy. That's the fans to Yeah, I said, you know, there's I have. I have a lot of fans, male and female fans that and I have friends of mine, Yeah that are female fans that I could say a number to them and they could tell me the player and where he's from

and when he was drafted. I think that's pretty impressive. I like you when you do that with us because it kind of it's almost like a refresher course. It keeps me on my toes. Okay, a new linebacker Mark Lillard, he is fifty three, right, you know? Yeah? And how early were you here today watching tape? I got here at eight A actually seven forty. You're not a lazy man. Lay off the sky, off, lay off the scarf because everyone was show up? Can we just do what we want? Yeah?

Did he just show up in a romper? Yeah? Why not? Some severs like camp Cam Newton Dess got a backpack with some animal head on the back of it. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a real animal head, but it's a lion, You're right, And it's not real for or anything. It's like a John kind of. David Irving just needs to get one more suit because I think he only has that blue suit. That's all I've ever seen him where. It's pretty sweet though. It is a nice suit. Oh it's it's super swaggy when you put the scarf on

it too accent it. Oh it's beautiful, very good accessory. But you know, on Saturday, these guys show up to the plane charter site and Lyle's got this huge hat on DESI right, has the Russia. Yeah, and then David Irving And it wasn't that cold. It was just raining. I like the tag on the post Texans when you're yeah Texans and yeah, so true. Charlotte was all Charlotte was swagging out and that blue velvet crushed velvet duster jacket with the blue velvet shoes. I'll tell you what

it is, Texas. We want it to be fall so bad and it just won't won't get there. It's dc felt like fall, you know, it looked like Thanksgiving outside. It just did. It's gonna be eighty today, you know, we just can't in fifty nine tomorrow. Okay, well that works weather reports. Yeah, always good. By the way. Indoors this weekend we are roof clothes probably hopefully he usually is. You never know, you never know, uh, pole huts. And there's still a lot of time to vote because I

was late getting this up. No, fifty five percent say Irving can't catch dlocks coming for you. They think that he did that obviously. They think that Lawrence is going to continue maybe getting one every other back. Again. I think he is too. I think he is. He's on a mission this year. Like what Mickey was saying though about beating guards and centers and stuff and double team blocks. I like that. Yeah, I don't disagree with him on that. And if nothing else, that's going to cause the running

back to stay in and chip them, yep, to help out. Absolutely. I'll take the Chris Thompson's of the world out of the game. Yeah, Chris Thompson's hopefully a cream hunt this next weekend. Yeah, we'll get to watch that Monday night game. It's amazing, you know, it's just all about the way that your schedule lays out sometimes because now the Broncos don't look like such a big threat like we saw them in Week two, and of course they'll be going

to play the Eagles at home next weekend. And it's just all about now Aaron Rodgers, and it's just where your season lays out. Yeah, it is. I think Parcels was right a few years ago and he said, check back with me after Thanksgiving, because anything before that, I think you're still especially the way this league has moved towards more parody. You just it's hard to sort out who's really good and who isn't until damn near playoff time.

And then even then then you find a team who might get hot, like Brian says, you start fighting for your lives in the wildcard race. Oh yeah, we were looking at some of the stuff today for the other guys that are peeking up in the NFC East. You got the Viking two are kind of hey, we're still here. The Seahawks, yeah, you know that was a good win for them. St Yeah, casually sitting there at five and

two five straight, Yeah, yeah, crazy. There's a lot of teams in this you know, you just got to find a way to you know, they gave away I talked about this, sir. They gave away a game against the Rams and the Packers. I mean you can say which I mean its Aaron Rodgers. I get it. But now they gotta go. They gotta go steal one, and Kansas City be a good game to go steal. You know, you get you steal this one, and then you know, Atlanta it's kind of having their little bit of struggles. Hey,

I'll take my chance. It's going to play in Atlanta. Now they've lost some games there, but you're gonna have to win a game that maybe when you looked at the schedule when it came out in April, Yeah, you're gonna have to. You said, well, you know, we gotta we gotta take this one. Now if you kind of kind of gave away a couple there down the road, better win tonight. What Kansas City and the Dodgers in

New York? He means, yeah, yeah. If let me ask you this, if if it if it goes that way, if it goes opposite, where he gets he has to serve the six. I don't know if that there's another court to go to. I think you I think you can go to the seven second circuit court. I think so. But look, it's it's kind of reached a point for us where it's like, and I still haven't resolved the rehearing in New Orleans either, have they? They just said they wouldn't give him an injunction, but didn't rehear it

like they wanted then on bonk. Yeah, but all the reports were how rare is that to actually right? I know, but we haven't heard from that, yeah either. Yeah, It's it's very confusing, Yeah, very confusing. Let's go Judge Catherine. Yeah, enough talent on this team though to win without Zeke? Or would you be a five hundred team? I don't one hundred and fifty half of the ride your offenses him. Can you ride those other guy eyes like you ride him? So? I don't think so. I just don't with the same

results you could try, I don't think you'd. I don't think you'd be in as many good down and distant situations six miles. I don't think so. I think you've gotten back to the formula that was working for you last year when you won thirteen games. You know you're you're control time of possession, thirty three minutes. There's some clock up. Here's something for you if you had to play without if you if you don't want to play without either one of them, But who could you survive

playing without Dak or Zeke? Oh? Pole question for tomorrow? Oh, write it down, we'll answer it tomorrow. You got it? Who could you have to answer it? Ye? Who could you survive? I mean, well, okayz you could survive without him? I think you can win games. I don't. I'm not sure where the Cowboys would be with Cooper Rush starting. Yeah, most indispensable of the two. Yeah, I mean you don't

want to you don't want to live either one. But if you if you had to sit there and say, who really means the most your football team right now? I mean the quarterback is always huge in this league. But when you talk about what what Ezekiel Eli it's able to do? Tree deadline coming up, let's get some trade rumors going around for the count. I just I know what you're saying, but I just I always kind of wonder that because of what you know, what Elliott

has you know, and Dak has been playing incredibly. Dak is kind of quietly too, like same numbers. Basically if you look at last year. We've talked about Zeke a lot these last few weeks because he's had one hundred yard games and he's starting to pile them up. But I don't know, da Dak not turning the ball over either, you know, yeah, I know he did those comedian and have three touchdown passes again in facetious, Yeah, I know you were three in a row with three Yeah, that's

incredible though. Yeah, but you and the fact that I even made you think about who you could play without. Now I quarterback all the way. You stay at the quarterback all the way. Okay, yeah, Well let's go to the phone lines. We have Johnny from Salt Lake City on the line. What is your question, Hey, guys, just two questions, Dak Prescott, does it concern you at all that in two games that he's played in adverse weather,

it seems like he struggles just a little bit. I'm not saying he's going to go out there until three touchdowns or two touchdowns struggling what way, Johnny struggling one way? Struggle in what was being accurate getting the balls where they need to. I saw that there was one play in particular where Bryce Spoiler is open all the way in the back. I don't really Dak Prescott just didn't

want that was Bryson Butler. Yeah, I think that I'm not gonna I'll tell you what I agree with you on something though I've seen Dak Rolder was right that pass he missed the Beasley, that's a pass he makes ninety percent of the time. That part of it, I agree with you. And then the past to Witton in the flat that they had where he broke left was a pass I thought he usually makes going to his left.

Those are the two bad ones I saw. But the one, like I say, the one that he tried to hit Butler down the middle of the field on, he had a he had a he had a tyrant Smith. I believe in his lap on that so that that was going to be a tough, a tough throw for him to have to make. But I mean, I'm just trying to say I didn't think that. I didn't think that it was it was. I think there was some really

some difficult throws. He was under some pressure, you know, from Lyle Collins from what they were having to deal there. Even even Smith was giving him some problems too. What was the other bad weather game. I was trying to remember another bad Giants game. Yeah, that was cold, It was cold. Yeah, we have credit to the Giants defensive Steelers game. He was really good, right Steelers game when that a rain muddy games in Pittsburgh. Yeah, that was

bad conditions. I think he was incredible at That's the only time he's Medio Green Bay. Okay, since they play eight games at home indoors. That Giants December game in the medaland still bothers me. People still are so hard on him for that game. Nobody credits the Giants for being on their defensive line and their secondary second, there was nobody open in that game. I on't scored any points in the game. Yeah, it was ten seven. It

was a terrible game. Was and you know, I'm looking at the Eagles and we're looking around the NFC East and everything I got the Eagles will probably have one of those games pop up. You know, you're looking at these teams. I mean that was as you know, I think this is long from over though. I mean, you're you're half you're you're halfway through, you know, and we'll see, we'll see what happened. I mean, you know, Carson Wentz's

numbers were not great yesterday. It was the three nothing game for a while, right, and yeah, there were some there was some, there was some some some bad sitution, but his numbers were not great. Now, I think this the linebacker being out and Peters being out, we'll catch up. Keep keep an eye on that situation. Just gotta stay close. Yeah, you got two games, and if you can't do something with the two games you play them, then you don't deserve and you don't be up there. That's right. Scandrick

was quoted. I thinking in Todd's story. Archer said it best. He said, there were two games back and we play him twice, so you you basically control your own destiny. Yeah, if you keep winning games, Well, this is not way out of reach. They're one loss was against Kansas City. Maybe you turn around and you beat Kansas City, you know, and then they've got to play Denver, which they'll could very well beat Denver way if you played Denver now

the way they are. Yeah, but I mean it's like you said, Tay, it's where where you play these teams during the season. Some days you catch a really hot team early and then by the end of the thing, you're going, what happened to that team? Well, I know we were talking about, you know, the Thanksgiving game this year is the Chargers, and now all of a sudden they're looking like, oh, they've got it figured out over there. Yeah it was. That was a tough loss for them

in New England yesterday. They took about a bad call, Mickey, there's some there's some bad calls going on in that New England Chargers game. I don't think I've monitored that. It was pick play. They don't know why. I spent so much time with San Francisco and the Eagles, but you're trying to will San Francisco. I was just watching to see who, you know, just kind of see what they were going to do and see Jay Bether they became stupid. Shanahan Cisco. Yeah, yeah, well you're talking about

Shanahan's and where he left. Now, the Falcons their offense, they came back at that. They've struggled with Sarkissian. They have. That's what I'm saying. You just got to find a way to get on a little role here. Get it win. If you can beat Kansas City and you go to Atlanta. Now things looking a little better. Yeah, well, I think we can all be happy on a victory Monday here at the Star in Frisco. We have so much more

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