Talkin' Cowboys: Breaking Down The Week 14 Win

honored yet Happy birthday, Mick. Thank you truly glad to have one. Truly, though I don't think you'd spend I think you'd probably spend your birthday at work, even if you didn't have to. I mean, that's a good sign. That's a good sign saying that you you love what you have. You ever had your birthday off? I get my birthday off every year, but that's the exception. It's only holiday we celebrate. We were just trying to ask him what he was going to do tonight, you know,

and he wouldn't listen to us. He was just watching the top, watching that guy trying to run into the fans. Seahawks, Jags, your focused, make your dead, go out and get blasted Cowboys hours. Great, that's a great drop after every loss, I'm playing that drop. Yeah, I'll go it out, get blasted there in case you've missed it. Yeah, that's you can.

You can cheers to the Cowboys playoffs. Hope, whether it's four percent or what it really is, it's still alive because they did beat the Giants thirty ten and impressive fashion. A lot of guys stepped up to the plate. Sean Lee. Of course what we expected. Dak Prescott had a career day and Rod Smith had a breakout day. So I'll just start around the room, guys, and you tell me one player that you were most impressed with. Mickey, I'll start with you, Sean Lee. Yeah, he tried to make

every tackle in the game. I told him that would be waiting to do the postgame interview. The broadband called it. I think you called for like twenty something tackles, right, Actually, I thought he would. I thought he would get I think between thirty. I think said twenty five. I said twenty five almost. Yeah. I just had a feeling though watching the Giants play that they weren't going to be able to block him. I wonder what happens when the coaches look at the tape. Will he get about three

or four more tackles? No, it's it's it's eighteen. It's eighteen. Okay, it's pretty Actually, I'll tell you what they had. Giants have a real problem blocking second level linebackers, of course, and so and and Anthony Hitchins had fourteen as well. That just tells you really the problems. Jeff Heath had ten. Yeah, it goes, it goes beyond that. For the Giants, they just they there, there's a bad offensive line, and you know, we talked about that all week. That's how you were

going to have to take advantage of it. And they did absolutely. Okay, So Shaun Lee was your guy. Shaun Lee's my guy. I think I picked him for Rankum. I don't know, Well you did? I thought you? No? Did I I took right down. Yeah, they're somewhere. They're somewhere, Rob, who's your who's your player that really stood out to you as an impressive guy in yesterday's win? A little bit under the radar, I'll say Lyle Collins for the job he did in past protection two weeks in a row.

He's not one hundred percent. I don't think he's close to one hundred percent right now. And the job he did against Ryan Kerrigan against Washington and you know, started the game off against Olivia Vernon, they did move him around. Ye saw some jpp um and you know, pass protection was really good in this game for Dak. So he's he's fighting through some stuff right now. I know a lot of guys are, but we're seeing him grow at that right tackle spot at less than one hundred percent.

Did you see that contraption JPP plays with on his right hand, No, I didn't club. It's like a club. I don't know if he's been doing that all year now, he hadn't been doing it all year. He's got he's got it. He went back to it. That's when he first interesting first because I didn't remember that. I remember he had a finger injury during the week. Yeah, that's what they that's what they did in problems with that hand. Again, he can't he can't grab it's it's it's a club.

It's all wrapped up. Yeah, there was some question about whether he's gonna play because of that. Yeah, so exactly, and Dak Prescott did not wear anything. He did not he had. He had the glove on the on the off left hand, left hand, switched gloves at half too, went from a white glove to a blue glove. Didn't notice why he was at for promotional stuff. I have no idea, really, he said it was a style thing. Yeah, I don't know what that makes sense, because it's your

bottom hand when you take the snap. Maybe it gives you better grip on it. Yeah, maybe he wanted Well, I'll tell you what though, he needed the grip because when he avoided that sack from Olivier Vernon. Yes, he switched hands with the ball and he went right hand, left hand and got it back to his right hand to push it outside there. So far did you see him going trying to go old school on that one play? Old school? What way he went out? Further start the series,

he forgot his helmet. Yeah, he was wearing his stocking cap and he was almost all they saw. I saw him run to was almost all the way there and he turned around and goes, oh, so I said something to him afterwards He goes, yeah, he goes, I had the stocking cap on, and he goes I kept forgetting my helmet. I had something on my head. Yeah, nice and warm. I said, boy, you're tough on the heaters.

Going way back to those New York Football Giants, Terrence, he changed his shoes, right, because remember in pregame when we were all standing there and usuring two different shoes different, Yeah, trying to figure it out. Yeah, yeah, well who was your guy? Well, I'll say after I thought already, no, it's fine, I'll pick Prescott because I think the Giants plan was to make him throw from the pocket. Didn't get the ball on the edge very much, and so

their plan was to keep him in the middle. He made some some tough throws, you know, and I think, like Rob says, protection overall was pretty good. But yeah, they were committed to making him throw the ball from the middle of the pocket, and that's what he was able to do. I thought he moved the guys around where he needed to move guys around. You know, if you if you watch the pass to Rod Smith, he moves rod Smith over to put him in the slot. He sees what's happening in the middle of the field.

So yeah, I just feel like though that overall, you know, Dak Prescott. There's been some times where we've been critical of him, but this time around, I thought he did a pretty dark nice job. Yeah, you know what, and to go on on that it was more than the three hundred and thirty two yards passed, right. I think it was what Brian said. He got guys where they needed to be and he recognized the blitzes. But finally

he got some help. The receivers started recognizing it right and started cutting off their routes because early in the game it looked like they're blitzing and everybody's got their backs towards them. It's like, come on right. Two of the they had three plays over fifty yards, Yeah, passing, and two of them I think we're just straight up blitz is word, right, You got one guy to beat. If you're the receiver, he makes the play, he's got nothing mcgreen, Dez is catch for a touchdown and Rod's

not Rods Beasley's and guys made the play. It was a good route and they were off to the races. Yeah, it was hottest job by both That's how you stop a team from blitzing. Well, it was a great blitz pickup by Rod smithy guy I'm sorry, go ahead, I got Rod. You guys all said great players, and you know, Brian I used Dak as the player of the game for our social media, but it was really easy to do that, and it was almost hard, actually to choose

between him and Rod because Rod had such a great game. Yeah. You know, last week we were talking about, Okay, let's keep this running game consistent. You know, a lot of times we've said, oh, they've got something there, but it hasn't been consistent enough. Rod Smith took the pressure off of those receivers, I thought, you know, by saying, okay, I realized they're doubling Cole and Dez. Right, let me just have some breakaway plays. I mean eighty one yards

on that one. Yeah, it was. It was a heck of a play to again Dac to move him outside and then you're absolutely right town the third down play, they were playing the slant to the backside on Bryant and on the front side they were not going to let Beasley run the pivot route to get the first down,

and Dak saw exactly what was going on. No safety in the middle of the field, you know, take a chance, and it's a great job by by Smith to beat his man off the line of scrimmage and then to get into the route and Dac to see it all the way again in the middle of the pocket throw. That's what he had Da said. That's that's not a play they typically he doesn't, that's not usually his read. And Rod actually said, I didn't think the ball was coming to me. No, but when you've got that kind

of look, you gotta go to it. And huge playing the game, Rod was. He's really he's really got the respect of his teammates. They really respect the fact that he's earned his spot, you know, as a special teams guy and now doing whatever he's asked to do. You mentioned the Blitz pick up that that was huge for a two hundred twenty pound back. He's a pretty good receiver out of the back for really nifty run too, if you look at his touchdown run on the toss suite.

Because they got everything, they got everything. Jeff Swain sealed everything inside him and Noah Brown and they got everybody the outside. Well, he had to make one more cut to get up to int into the lane, and he was able to do that. He could have kept drifting and then probably got tackled, but patient patient patient boom made the slant or made the plant and then went right up in the in the lane for the touchdown.

Thought he was running more freely in this game. That the first carry he had was weird because it was to the left and he was running like a fullback. He had the ball, both hands in the ball. What are they doing right? And then they finally started loosing up and running like we had been talking about all year, kind of running angry, kind of kind of was thinking that was going to be their answer during the six game suspension. Remember, I was looking for an angry back,

and I thought he played angry yesterday. I thought he made some really good cuts. Mickey's talking about the early run, but once he got freed up a little bit, I felt like that that's kind of what we see with Rod Smith. You know that he could be that kind of guy going forward. And you know, and I know a lot of people I don't know about your Twitter timelines, a lot of people are asking me if you know if he was going to would be the guy to start this week over Alfred Morris. You know, after what

you saw, I think they compliment each other pretty well. Yea, yeah, you know, I don't think you need to change. And he's alert that he caught that tip pass right in the middle. You know, I had the wherewithal to hang in there and catch it and turn and go get it first down. Did you guys listen to Coach Garrett this morning a little bit. Yeah, he's on the fan and he was talking about Rod Smith and they said,

you know, where did this guy come from? I mean he talked about what you're saying, Rob, you know about Okay, we had him on the practice squad and then we brought him in and we tried to do some stuff with fullback and they just kind of he was kind of that guy that you would see kind of yo yo on the transaction emails, right, and truly, you know, it's exciting to see all of his success he's had in the past few games because especially of course, most

people know that his brother is Jalen Smith, and he's his young brother. What sometimes I forget I think that Jalen might be older. You know, they kind of look so close in age. But it's exciting to see, I think for Jalen. He was saying yesterday on the bus that he's excited to see him get his shine, you know, because for so long, I bet you, out of those two brothers, it's mostly been about Jalen Smith. Yeah, and I finally see Rod Smith have some of that is

pretty excited. Obviously both of them went to extremely great college football programs. But well, what you have to do as a front office you have to be able to have a vision for the player. Yeah, and they found something for him to do. You know, he played special teams. He was a core guy. Like you said, Tay, he was on and off practice squads. I mean again, that's one of those things where somebody could have come in the dead of night and said, hey, listen, we'll take

Rod Smith off your practice squad. Well they didn't. So again evaluation, they found spots for him. They're using him. You know, you saw him catch the ball in the Green Bay game down the field. You know he made a play. You know, he just wasn't a guy you throw the ball of the flat two and then he makes a play. He makes plays down the field, and I think that's where you know, you find ways to

you know, these backs are pretty talented group. Even Alfred Morris is finding ways to catch the football, you know, would be more complete. And that's what this team's trying to do. They're trying to find more those complete guys. They can do a lot of different things. And obviously Rod Smith's one of those guys. I think someone too. He's not related to him, but Keith Smith. Yeah, same thing, right like that, Yeah, bouncing back and forth and then trying to find a role. And hey, give credit to

the coaching staff deciding at Rod Smith. They tried him at fullback and said, you know what, this guy's are running back, you know, and and he's he's gotten better. He's become a better running back and more complete running back than he was when I think they claimed him off of Seattle roster a couple years ago. Yes, done a nice job off the practice squad, right, I don't think he was off to Seahawks practice squad. There's a poach, yeah, Yeahhawks,

right squad? Yeah, And knock on Wood. You know that Cowboys pretty much came out of that game pretty injury free. You know. There wasn't anything to extremely note of any guys that I can think of. Yeah, I don't. I don't think Ifford had a hip pointer Tyrone Tyron Crawford. Yeah, and then there was one trying to think, yeah, there was. He came off the field one time and they were talking to him on the sidelines. I thought he was just trying to catch his breath, but I guess the

hip pointer was. Yeah, that it was he heard. Nobody asked me questions afterwards that the team got through without me. When way he walked off with Jason, he pointed it out. Okay, a lot of people were asking about Sean Lee rob and I saw you answered that one. Yeah, just that was a planned deal to kind of rotate him. I think one series in the second half he was out. They put Jalen in and just coming off the injury.

They wanted to keep him fresh. It wasn't anything he aggravated, so and obviously he made a huge play at the end of the game. There was one more think about that, Mick, but oh it was it was Kyle Wilber. He had a stinger. Oh okay. They brought him into the tent. That was third fourth quarter. It was kind of late, but I saw him afterwards and he was walking. It

was just fine. Helps you with that. Now, somebody who wasn't injured, you know, has comeback since Thanksgiving, but had kind of a very unusual game Dan Bailey missing the field goals and an extra point. Brian, I see you immediately upset about that. No, I wasn't. I mean, I don't know what to say about kickers, you know, And I know I got into a discussion with folks. It wasn't a hindsight, because it's funny. I was sitting with Nate and him and I go, I wouldn't have kicked it.

I wouldn't have tried that field goal. And I mean I was saying it to those guys it wild position studio. Yeah, I mean yeah, I'm fifty three. And Nate made a good point. He goes, He's like eighty percent, why wouldn't you try? And I'm like, I just wouldn't try it at this point, you know, because to me, I'm making the Giants have to drive the football, and they had it for a good first drive, but I'm kind of

thinking of field position. Pen them back there, maybe get a short field, get a three and out, but make them make them show you they can. Yeah, make him show me they could drive the ball down the field again. That's where I That's where I was. I don't think the Giants could made enough place. Now, if you're playing against some an opponent that can drive the football on you and make plays by all means, you know, if

you want to try fifty three, y yeah. But and somebody will say, well, Brian had hit the upright, and I'm like, okay, you know it's fine. It's still I would have probably played a field position game at least initially. And then if you want to come back and kick the fifty yard field goal, which it looks like to me got pushed. I mean the started middle wind to the wind just took it right, so I you know, I mean, and I think the more disturbing thing to me,

guys was the missed extra Yeah. Absolutely, from yeah, that's that's where That's where I would have That's all of a sudden, it was, you know, we were all the game was in hand, and you're going, well, he just missed an extra point. So that that to me, Okay, I understand the fifty three. I get the fifty, but those missed extra points. Okay. Now, what's going on with Dan Bailey. You know he's coming off the back injury,

but I don't think this is a health thing. I think this is just a tough day at the office. It's a tough it's a tough place to kick. As you mentioned, the wind, yeah and stuff. But I think the old place was worse. Yeah, but there was there was When I was on the sideline before the game. Yeah, there was a breeze. You could feel it. He was like eleven miles on the on the play by play. He was kicking well to our right, and I think that's where the one went off the upright. The first

one that where we're going right. The first one was right, and that's the way that was the That's where I saw him. He was kicking off that little holder thing right and he was hitting from fifty four right. It was the other direction he was having trouble, and that's where he missed the extra point right. I think that's where the fifty yard fifty one kind of blew out, Yeah, because he had it right down the middle. It was

going like that. It's just the ball was almost going sideways the way it came away from the But yeah, well, now I can understand. I can understand the fifty yard misses. I get those, But the the extra point one was the one that just kind of gave me because I was thinking, well, man, he he usually is just so dead down the middle, and now he's pulling the ball a little bit. I didn't I asked that because they

were tweeting if it was about his groin. Steah, go ahead, yeah, oh did I say back, Yeah, he had the groin injury. I don't. I don't think this is health related. I think he's okay. It's it's just it's a tough day. And he didn't kick a field goal in the Washington game. Did he kicked all extra points? Right, and he didn't have an attempt. Yeah, but you tell you said that's his first extra point missive two hundred and Well it

was two fifty going into the season. So however many he had this year, Yeah, so it was probably in the two seventies range. Yeah, and it might have gotten his head. You never know. Oh, he's the kind of guy that I feel like that was something he's thinking about still today. But he picked a good game to have a bad game. Yeah, they were able to overcome

in the fourth quarter. I mean, sitting there in the first quarter, they'd only really had two drives, and you looked up and you're like that was only one quarter very army Navy game like it was without the snow, without the snow, no snow. Luckily we wore in New Jersey, but close to Buffalo. Actually looks kind of fun. It did well. Hey, let's take our first break here. When we come back, we'll have more fun. Brian, we'll talk

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there and you saw these things. I mean, the first one hits. It does right in the face. Basiley misses a big one. These guys were just having a little bit of hard times. If you would just dropped a slant before the one that hit him face. Yeah, yep, that ball got on him quick. What do you guys think about that? How and they fix that? What? What did they take away from that? One of the best teams in the league last year catching the football? Really? Yeah?

What were the stats on that cowboy? I mean there was less than they were. They were top five when it came to drops for the Sea. I mean, you got a guy like Beasley, it was dark with the I think the one to him, to be honest with you, on tape, it looks like he ducks his head like he like he lost lost in the sun, lost in the sun, talked about oh no, yeah, yeah, they got curtains there. He said, the sun's always going to be there. I don't know if that's a jab at our stadium

too or what. No, well, he said he's got to make the catch. It wasn't looking back, it was looking sideways. He ducked his head. You can you can see. You could see his eyes are up and then as the ball's coming, he ducks his head to think, Okay, I don't see this thing. That part the death slant is a surprising one because again I thought he was late with his hands. He's got to slow down. He's trying too hard. I think on those like the slants, he wants to go and he wants to catch big game

out take off. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Well the ball, the ball he caught for the touchdown was a great pass. I mean right where it needed to be for him, right in his face. But you wrote about the the was it back shoulder the one jump ball where he yeah, it hit him kind of in his face. Maybe the ball could have been thrown a little bit. I thought her, You know what, again, this is just nitpicking if you

want to nitpick. If Dak throws the ball further out, we've seen Dez how many times we've seen just running up that's an easy Dez on the move is a good thing. Des going des one off the line to get to the point of what the ball was coming back at him. So he had to go up. But hands were really wide on the play. He told me, he told me that he relaxed on it. Yeah, it's like he said, oh, oh I've got this, and he and and he relaxed and he said, I was so mad at myself. Right. Oh, he popped up quick off

the ground like he knew exactly. And and and then on the next one touch or the touchdown the fifty yard or so, they did a sight adjustment. They stabbed Collins come sneaking up right, and Dez said, when I saw him come down, I said, we've got a touchdown here, right, He's just got a throat to me and Dak said, we just kind of did the look at each other. Right, Okay, here's the it's open. I can run the slant because they were using the linebacker to keep the slants and

the Collins was getting it right. And that's what you have to do. When they want a blitz like that, you gotta burn them. And all he had to do is shake the guy and they weren't gonna catch him. And has the Beasley cut that you're talking about ready to go. Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna make any excuses. There's there's a reason, but um you know, we gotta make them anyway, you know you Soun's always gonna be there,

you know what I'm saying. So, um, So the sun was I was I was just I was just catching the sun on the wide draft I could That's why I said, you gotta deal with it. You know what I'm saying. There's no I mean, there's none you do. You just gotta catch the ball and we gotta make those plays five billion years, five billion years, he makes that play at that game has played at four twenty five because it's dark then start. Yeah it's dark sunset, it was dark years but yeah, that's or if it

was at at and T that's stadium though. It is funny because that light does come that way. I mean it comes. And there's a reason why the Giants stand on the sun, the sun, the sideline with the sun. Because back in the day Wellington, Mary got sick and his mom said to his dad, you're never taking him to another game again. Make him stand in the sun. And he was like, he got sick. And so that's why you see the Giants and that was their sideline. Yeah, cool, Yeah,

the Giants stand opposite early in the season. Oh it's okay, true or false? They stay warm. Yeah, that's true, true or false. That's why missus Marri made him do it. Does Bryant will have a one hundred yard receiving game this season. So far, he does not have one. Where'd he get yesterday? Seventy three. Yeah, yeah, Philadelphia left right yet Philly, you don't know where they're covering pretty well right now. You need to need to see the Raiders

and what they're doing. Seahawks Raiders. Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what though. A couple of good signs from the Raider game the other day from yesterday was that they had that the Chiefs were able to run the ball for about one hundred and forty yards and that the car didn't play all that while you look through for two hundred and eleven, So you need to catch

an eye on that when see what the situation. The Raiders are kind of struggling right now, looks like defensively, maybe des gets something going, but no, I mean when you run the ball thirty one times, that's that's what they want to do. That they are and you want to attack different ways. And Dad completed passes to like nine different guys, eight nine different receivers, so it's not really an offense where one guy's gonna get a bunch of yards. Although rod Smith had a day one thirteen, Yeah,

but eighty one on one play. Yeah, maybe that's how Dez gets to one hundred. Well, I don't think it's important. That's partee they're gonna win because that's what they gotta do. They gotta win. Yeah, they guarantee for them to win is twenty one for twenty nine two three touchdowns, no interceptions, and then you get one hundred and twenty yards rushing. That's that's their guarantee of winning right there. It's not one guy getting one hundred yards. It's when you make plays.

And that's what he did. He made a play. It's a good sign though that Daks continued, like Mickey said, to make reads, to make throws, you know, to kind of be on the same page with Dez, and you know those are It's like, if you're gonna if people are gonna blitz, you make them pay for blitzing. You make them you know, hey, if the offensive line's gonna hold up and Rod Smith's gonna come across the pocket and take on a blitzing us safety by all means,

you know, go for it. And that's what teams are doing. Ye Like, you're no, you're not gonna beat me. I'm not worried about Zeke. I'm blitzing. Yep. You know, on the same thing that happened on the Witten's touchdown. They go three tight ends and everybody thinks, okay, they're loading up, we're gonna run. And then they sneak them down the field and and you hit a twenty yard touchdown pass. You could have thrown it to Hannah too. Hannah was open on the play right next to him. He could

have gone either way. Yeah. Good because they all came up. They got up a scrimmage. Everybody came up. If that's what you can do, you gotta make him pay. Yeah, I hear, Mickey. But all that really matters to me is targets. That's right. If targets are there, Mick, I think that's how you measured the true success of a receiver. Three out of I'm gonna give you a pass on that. Today. We got a five target on birthday. Friendly. Oh it's sweet her a pass. That's good. That's good. Yeah. I mean,

if you have more targets, you should be better. But it was the five hundredth win for the Dallas Cowboys organization, two fifty under Tech Stram and two fifty under Jerry Jones. So congratulations, Jerry. Yeah, I hope you're celebrating today. I'm sure he is. Oh, Jerry got his faster. Only took twenty eight years. Yeah, yeah, texts at twenty nine Yeah, by one year, so that's first year they didn't get any So it was twenty eight, two fifty and twenty

eight years. Yeah. You know, it's it's always funny to see those kinds of stats because you're like, well, what does that really mean? Like five obviously is a big number. Yeah, yeah, but in thirty years, let's do the math. It's about right. I saw a lot of questions throughout the game about Jason Witten. People were saying, Okay, get him more involved, get him more involved. Finally he gets involved and it's

a touchdown. So what did you think of that play, Brian, Yeah, Like Mickey was talking about it, like what they did, Landon Collins went out. It was the play that Cole Beasley goes out, yeah, you know and catches the big ball and then Landing Collins gets hurt. You know, they take advantage of a situation where they have linebacker inside on Witton there they kind of get they kind of get in a situation where Brandon Dixon, the cornerback, gets caught in no man's land. Between Witten and then also

James Hannah. That's what I'm saying. I felt like he could have gone either way and had a touchdown. But yeah, it's just a great it's it's a great design of a play when Witton can like cannot his head and get guys to just off that and he can get inside. I mean, it's a heck of a row too good clean pocket and let the ball fire down the middle of the field. I I think it's unfortunate though about

Wit and the holding calls. You know that he's at that couple and I know if fans were kind of like, oh, it seems like every time they have a big play he holds. I don't think that's necessarily the case. I think that you know, yeah, it looked like to me on the tape that his hands work on the outside. Again, you see him get pulled. You know, it negated a

very long run. But now for the most part, you look at what happened in the game run blocking with Hannah, with Swaying and with Witt, and I think the tight ends did a really really nice job overall. Yeah, I do too. Just tell those people to watch the other side the holes they're getting away with I was just gonna says Marcus one more time. Guys grabbing him from behind the waist. Sure pointed it out after. It's probably

gonna cost him twenty four thousand dollars? Is that the standard fine I've heard of that most likely is twenty grander plus Yeah, anything you do with an official. They had one the other day. Somebody bumped an official and I think it cost like thirty five thousand dollars plus five. You know what? The the the was it? The second one? The second one they called for lining up in the neutral zone, right, so the referee doesn't have the blue line to look at, right, right, so his hands right

on the blue line. The problem was there was so much there was the space between him and and the offensive tackle. The tackle was so far off the line of scrimmage. It probably looked like he was in the neutral zone, right, Yeah, And it's like, what are they looking at? Yeah, I don't know. I'm not I'm not

a conspiracy theory guy. I'm not either. But at the same time, this is a this is a defensive line that it gets pressure and so it's it's surprising that it's been I don't know how many how many weeks now and we've we've only said it's a competency. Yeah, come on. They called that false start on their running back. Yeah he must have done it because when I'm watching it, he didn't move. Yeah, that's walk, that's Walter Anderson though, or how did he come up with a false start?

The poor guy kind of looked up and I'm sitting there and he was like this and he never didn't even move his head. Well, I'll tell you what too. They had a situation whereon our new defensive tackle daytone, Yeah, he got someone else they called Crawford for defensive holding. It wasn't him. It wasn't him, It was Jones. It was defensive holding. So except they were double teaming him. Do you think he was trying to snatch so long?

Oh he threw, Yeah, he had a handful. I mean if you were, if you were on the other side of it, you would have said, come on, you got to call that, you know, but how many times have you seen that called? And by the back judge, you know, it's funny though he gets called more than you think, which is that enhanced? I mean hands of the face about the other day, hands the face though Frederick had in the Washington game, they had a hands in the face again Frederick, not not for him, but against him.

So you know, it's those are those are the kinds of college and to some degree it goes both ways. I was I was convinced Cheeto was gonna get flagged. They weren't going to pick that flag up because he kind of launched himself on the big hit. I forget which receiver it was that that could have been a penalty and they picked it up. Yeah with it, Roger Lewis, Yeah, Yeah, it was juggling the ball for five yards, just catch it. Yeah, you got him pretty good. You got a huge break

with the receivers they had out there yesterday. Yeah, let's get the phone lines. We have Eric from Fort Worth on the line. What's up Eric? Hello. I'll say I just wanted to um bring out the topic of Sean Lee and see kind of what y'all thought about his performance yesterday. UM. I think it's obvious, you know, for us that are Cowboys friends to see the impact he has on our team when he's out there, and you know we've in the struggles when we don't have him

out there. But just kind of one of the time in on you know, just it just shows how much he pays attention to detail and how much he studies to film. Just for example, UM, I want to hear a little bit of Brian where you have to say on that reverse that he sniffed out, you know, and just go to the show what kind of player we have and what team defense we can play when he's out there, and I just hang up and listen to y'all answer that for me. Okay, yeah, I'll tell you what.

It's the first point I made today on the Scouts notebook. That's gonna be up. I'm sure David them are putting it up here in a little bit, but yeah, absolutely. I gave Rod Maryell a lot of credit for that call right there, because they ran a blitz. They ran like what's called a Wanda blitz, which is when they bring the will linebacker. They worked the front away from

from Lee. They they sent the front strong and sent Lee week and Lee read the play though, I mean he was on the blitz anyway, So it was a good job by him kind of working Bobby Hart to tackle. Had no chance of getting him on the blitz. But it wasn't It wasn't really something that was Sean Lee diagnosing the play. It was it was a really nice call by Rod Marinelli slant the front, put Lee the other way and then have him make the tackle. They

ran right into it. Though. It reminded me of the overtime win here against Philly last year, that huge play he made against Darren Sproles. Yeah, they got off the field, they knocked him out of field goal range. Yeah, and then come back and win the game. It felt like it gave the offense some jews yesterday with that play get the ball back. I think that was the win and touchdown the next drive. Anthony Hitchins, I know you said it's he didn't really give credit to the play

calling there. Yeah, but I think the caller spoke to it. His ability to die. Oh no, absolutely, no, absolutely, Anthony Hitchins make were either. Last week we told the story that how he will call out plays and it's just based on his preparation. Right. There was one time against Detroit that he kind of told Hitchins, hey, move a little this way, they're gonna do this. He didn't do it. Detroit scored a touchdown on the play, and Anthony said that's that's the last time I haven't listened to him

because he knows he goes well. Credit to his work during the week. The caller is absolutely right. He's a he's a rare player, I say, a special player. But I could say that first one with the you know, hey, give Marinelli sometimes we talk about adjustments and this and that. Give the coaches a little credit for that when he called the right blitz at the right time. Absolutely boring play calls by let a hand yesterday, boring. I didn't hear that call today. He got smart. I guess it's

your birthday. Enjoy yourself, that's right. Enjoy yourself means I can say what I want. You know. It's funny, though, if you you think about the last couple of weeks, halftime adjustments have been pretty good. I think if they're forty one and seven on points in the second half, something like that, twenty seven un answered yesterday. Yeah yeah, that wasn't most they've scored in the fourth quarter all season. Twenty points. Yeah. This is a This is a season

of ups and down, It really really is. Philadelphia is about to experience one of the worst downs. Oh no, first season, you know, but Hey, that's, you know, good thing. They hung on to win that game enough because it got beat now, But he feels sorry for them, right, I don't they beat They would have had what three that would have been their third loss. I've been the third loss for three games to go. They go to the Giants this week. Yeah, yeah, never mind, Yeah, that

team's not winning them. Your team played without your best player for six games. I don't feel sorry for anybody. Well, it has been a season, a season for injuries and big time players like Ezekiel Elliott significant time. I mean we can go through the league and pretty much look at most key players on some big teams that were expected to go far in the playoffs this year are out. You know, you think of the immedia names Aaron Rodgers,

j J. Watt, Andrew Luck, Deshaun Watson. Look at how that team is just oh, no, team's falling apart, absolutely fallen apart. And you know Dalvin Cook who has had off to a great start and so Ohdell. I mean you look at that for the Giants. It's reality in the NFL, right, David Johnson, Julian Edelman, Joe Staley, Joe Thomas, Jason Peters. Yeah, I mean, let's goes on and on. Eric Barry went out in the first game. Malik Hooker, Yeah, it's craziness. So you feel for these guys, but it's

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John's for your birthday. Absolutely, you wouldn't have it any other way. Oh, I missed my mother making me pizza when I was a kid. Yeah, you Steve right, poor guy. I don't think your coach cousin, cousin Steve didn't have his best for showing not a good day for him. The defense kind of fell apart in the fourth quarter, didn't fall apart. The Cowboys just beat him to the punch. I think this, I think with the I was surprised the way he coached that game, to be honest with

awfully conservative. Yeah, for two and ten teams, let's not be the New York Giants' let's not be the you know kind of just we're gonna do what we do. I think you had to play that game in a different fashion. And if I was, if I was Steve Spegnel, I would have clicked over on that headset, you know, I would have told the OC there, I said, listen, you need to be a little bit more aggressive here. You know, I know they can't, and you know what,

let's be honest. Mickey made a point about their pass blocket and I said, it was one of the worst offensive lines that I'd seen. Yeah, but they actually held up, I mean holding, they're holding, but they held up. You got the ball out quick a lot. Yeah, but everything was underneath, underneath, underneath, and that had to be the game plan because they were fearful of having the pass block too long. They did run that crazy formation at

one point with the double bunches. Yeah, either side, that should have been that play should have hit the when they threw the red Ellison that thing right there, they had screwed it up. Yeah, he missed them. It was wide open. But I kind of felt like that they should have been a little bit more going. You know, it was like they were playing for field goals. That's I would have been. You know, I wouldn't have that one time they punted, Yeah, what the hell? Yeah exactly,

like fourth and three. Yeah, but they were on the other side of the fifteen. I didn't quite get that they have problems scoring points to begin with, So why you but why do you play in some conservative conservative I was. I was somewhat kind of played into Dallas's hands. That's when you play teams like that, they're scary because

they're just gonna know what the hell? Yeah? Yeah, what if someone questions you after the game, if you're specknol and you're standing up there and you go, they question, well, why did you go for? It's like we're two and we're two and eleven, Now what do you want me to do? Here? You go, Yeah that I didn't make this mess? Yeah, exactly not my mess, but Rob your Twitter poll, that is your mess. It is fine. Let's get what you got. Most improved player on the roster

this season? Four options, ride a man, birthday boy, whatever you want to do, Le Collins, Cavon Frazier, David Irving or Rod Smith see the Rock Smith one. You would think, oh, yeah, of course, but it's almost hard because you didn't you had such a small sample size to see what he was capable of doing. Of course, there was so much

hype around him going into training camp. But if I'd like to do a rate ride in one do it you could mention about I only got Fortunately, Ron Crawford might be my guy, right, most improved, all right, playing a different position, position just kind of you know, he had a lot of rest during OTAs was able to be successful, you know, with DeMarcus Lawrence, and I've liked what I've seen from him, you know, I obviously I could want more, but I think he's improved. He goes

someone there, mick uh Layle Collins. I was going to say him too. I mean, the improvement is not from a year ago to now, it's from the beginning of the season, the first month to how he's playing now. Yeah, if you think it's hands down, Yeah, if you look at what happened when he was a starter for you the first three games last year and then he then he was kind of a glorified scout team guy into the playoffs, and then he moves to a whole new position. Well,

he played left tackle at LSU. But we remember the days in Oxnard. We were kind of watching those one on one drills and we were really looks a little rough out there. He's getting beat by guys that are like, you know, rookie guys. He's not getting beat by you know, it's not like DeMarcus Lawrence is whipping him every play. I think he's learned a little patience with you said

that job. So the last week he said actually being kind of less than one hundred percent, he's trusted his technique a little more instead of that aggressiveness that he maybe you need more at guard. Right. Um, Yeah, he's done a nice job two weeks in a row, in particular being being banged up. He wins the poll thirty four percent, followed by Rod Smith at twenty eight percent. Got a couple of people tweeting me saying, what about de Marcus Lawrence number one, he would win because he's

leading the NFL and sacks number two. I tie a lot of his improvement to just being healthy. Yeah, I think they managed him the right way this year. They did. They did the right thing, him losing some weight, you know, slimming down a little bit, and then him staying healthy. I think that was huge. Rod Smith's not a bad one either, because of where he's come from. I was kind of hopeful that again that we would have seen the games that were that Zeke was out, that we

was seen this every week from rod Smith. What I was hopeful. I mean, they had him there every nickel down right, and then they gave him a series here in a series there right right. It was it was good. Yeah, Alfred Alfred looked like he was running in muddle a little bit yesterday. Yes, I didn't feel like that, you know. And then he might have to bounce a couple of times. What was he thinking on that? I don't know. I don't know. Nate and I was I mean, stopped the

clock twice. I gave them an extra minute in time. Nate and I were screaming at each other, and then the in the I got it circled in much. Yeah, it was. It was. It's just not not a very football intelligent play. And Alfred's a smarter guy than that. He understands that protect the football, stay and bounced. Nick was doing the same thing on the sideline. Yeah, we went down like, what come on now, don't don't do it? And he knows, he knows better than that. He's a bet.

I liked you putting in Cavon Frazier on there though too. That was not a bad deal right there. Yeah, you know, he really has improved a lot of people have mostly seen as improvents on special teams. But he's a guy who wants to You can just tell how hungry he is to be better. Yeah, earned a spot in Sorry, he earned a spot in that defensive safety rotation kind of the way JJ Wilcox did a company. I need, I need Mickey to ask a question for me, and

I know and I know he can do it. On the play that went down the field, the thirty five yard completion they have, it was him or Sean Lee that I think was wrong. And I'm willing to bet that Shawn Lee's generally not wrong with his with what he was doing because they they they were in a coverage where Lee was ready for the guy to come underneath. He was he had the tight end initially, and then he passed him off and Frasier came forward, and so the ball went over the top. So I'm a little

bit worried that Frasier might have misread that one. I asked Sean about it. He said, they were in a zone blitz right, and if you look at it, the right defensive end backed off. I can't remember if it was Mayoa or Taco as Maya as Mayoe. He dropped out right. They blitzed Woods off the slot. That's right, So somebody and then, as it turned out, Jeff Heath was playing single safety high right, and Sean followed the

guy for about ten yards and then just stopped. Yeah, because Sterling Sterling settles inside like he's gonna play the crosser. And what happened was Frasier drove on on Sterling on. That's where the other guy was. Yeah, because on the TV copy when I replayed it it the other safety wasn't in the picture. Yeah. What happened was you had your right Heath was in the middle of the field or actually shaded to his right to the right. Yeah right,

and then Frasier came forward and what's free? See they and I think the Giants did a pretty good job at disguising what they were going to do on the route because they had they had Ingram played as an in line y so he was along the line of scrimmage, so you know, you really kind of lose track, but really where he is. And like I say, Lee had him initially and then stopped to hit the crosser and the crosser never came, but Frasier was already up on

so and Eli made an adjustment on it. Yeah, they showed him signs yeah he did this, yeah yeah yeah. Really the only big play of the game for them that the next biggest completion was a sixteen yard or Roger lewis right, you take away that bust and defense that are really nice. It was like a one play touchdown, right basically thirty five yards. But yeah, the guy can't be that viral. I just wondered if Frasier I just kind of think, you know, Sean Lee, you kind of think, oh,

Sean Lee knows what he's doing. Frasier kind of getting in the mixed little and I also think if Sean would have thrown himself under the bus. He yeah, yeah, and he said, yeah, we just had a busted coverage. Let's go back to the phone lines. We have Tom from Pennsylvania on the line. Tom, what's your question? Hey, that's how you're doing. Just a quick comment. I'm out here. A lot of these Eagles fans they they're sound for

a Tony Romo. You guys, would you think Jerry Jones would be if Romo came out of the box to join the Eagles. And then my second point is in the off season, one of the chances of them contact in Cleveland and trying to get taking a fire on Josh scored him. I think it's been known that they've been trying to trade him, and I think, you know, if we can, if we could find a way to get him here and get the right counseling, he would automatically up to trade our team. Thanks to take him

with all guys, Thank you. Josh Gordon is one strike away from being gone forever. Yeah. I hate to be the wet blanket guy. I wouldn't mess with Josh. I mean I'm not giving up, nope, anything, fire and all that and you know, I know John Dorsey, Well, John Dorsey's not stupid, you know. I mean I say this in all respect. I think he realizes that Josh Gordon is a tremendous talent, you know, and so you know, but he's one. He's literally one, one false test or

whatever you want to say. I mean, being in the wrong place at the wrong time, away from not ever playing football again. I just don't you know, we talk about counseling and though you know, we haven't really done that very well right now either, absolutely, And why would Jerry be mad at Romo? They caught him if they if well, they granted his release, so well, yeah, they caught him. Okay. I think everyone knew that going into

this season. Anytime a quarter quarterback went down, a lot of people would be looking at Romo, and especially in the division. But there is I think it would be

a very very crazy world. And I know we live in a wild world these days, but for Tony Romo to leave the broadcasting booth to go be the quarterback in garbage time basically for the Hey, right you think that you let me ask you this, Do you think the Eagles are talented enough with a quarterback to win the Super Bowl with it with a quarterback, Yeah, the way once was playing. Yeah, yeah, I think they were.

I do too. I mean and they lost. You know, I said, some of those guys that were on this list of big injuries they had, Yeah, that was a if you're chasing a ring, that was a championship tie performance yesterday. After he got hurt, Like he goes out, then the defense goes makes a plays, gets a sack, fumble, they go win the game. I mean, that's that's what really good teams do. I just I mean with Foles, he's a good player. I mean, I wouldn't discount their

chances to getting out of the NFC. But obviously, like you said in the break, he's an MVP player, wins his if you're chasing the ring? Would if your roma, would you consider it? Now? Does it mean that much take to ring anymore? Though? I Mean, ultimately I feel like his legacy is with the Dallas Cowboys. Could he could he could solidify a Hall of Fame position for him. Do you think he could just jump in, like really realistically physically with his back. He's not just a retired player.

I mean, this is a guy that had major back issues, and that's one reason why he's he hung him up. I believe not just the fact that, oh, you know, Dak took over this this role. I really believe that it's not It's not just a guy coming out of retirement, you know, who's fully healthy. I think he's found his second, his next calling. Oh, I've been in the back. I bet in the back of his mind he thinks he

could do it, absolutely could. But I think he'll make a smart to He wouldn't if you're Howie Roseman, though you call, oh, sure, why not. But at this point in the season, I just how quickly he's gonna help him right, he could be ready for the playoffs to make that change. That would be a nice bow on one crazy season. Though. I'll tell you start seeing him

on New Year's Day. You start the you started that start folds against the against the Giants this week, and you could get him ready in two weeks, couldn't you, Mickey have him ready for the Cowboys? Yeah? Nut craziness, craziness making. Nebbie tweeted at you and said happy birthday, But he also had a question for you, and he said, is it fair to say Xavier Woods has played well in the slot our last two games. I think he's done a good job. I think he's he's jumped in.

I think all three of those guys have, um, you know. I don't know if their defense was the reason the Giants were throwing the ball underneath so much, but I think more and more those guys are. They're coming along and can I be a wet blanket guy future there. He's just not tackling very well. He really isn't, you know. And and I worry. I worry about that. The coverage aspect of it, I think is outstanding. Now, the tackling

power of it. He missed a couple yesterday he should have had, So I mean that worries me about him because I thought it Louisiana Tech, he was a much better tackler than he is. Falls off a lot of tackles. He did spin off a guy or two. Yeah, I'm just Mickey, You're right about the coverage stuff. I'm just trying to be the other side of it. I think he has played well, Nebbie, I do. I agree with

what Mickey is saying, but I worry about him. We've seen it from him and maybe it's something that he can correct in two thousand and eighteen, because we've seen him miss some tackles in the Green Bay game. You remember they bounced off a couple there. I mean, he hasn't been really overly consistent doing that. And and if you have, if you said, Brian, give me a concern about Xavier Woods, he's not a consistent tackler. That's that's that's the truth. I think that can improve. And I

like the idea of letting Scandrick do one thing. I don't disagree with you on that. Just let him play right corner. I wonder what the timetable is with Scandrick. I think here's the deal. He's got a It's a good question because, yeah, Tony, Mickey just wanted to say that. Mickey just want to say, let the young guys keep playing. Tony miss just one game. I just don't the same injury. But it's a different position and more out of you than just playing corner. I think I think he's got

to miss one more game. Okay. Just the way he was kind of walking around in the room, it didn't look like a guy that was ready to spring out of bed. And you know, with the o play playing corner. You gotta use your hips, you got a twist, you gotta change of direction. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. He's tough guy. I'd be able to come back early. Yeah. And David Irvine, I think we're expecting him to get back into the swing of things this week. Knock on wood.

I was surprised he didn't make it through, didn't make it a concussion product. That a strange cat. Yeah, I mean, you just gotta don't know when you know he's when he's nicked up, you never kind of get a feeling what what what? What's what's wrong there? But we'll see maybe this week. Man. You know, we did get home a little earlier last night, and it was it was funny to see Brandon car poor guy, just getting beat up all day from mister Antonio Brown. Did you catch that,

Mick I was watching it. Oh, they were brutal. He kept going to him. Oh all day. I think he got targeted. Somebody was getting targeted at Pittsburgh because they gave up a hell of a lot of points too. Yeah, the wild game. That was surprising that Baltimore was able to score thirty eight points. To be honest, with you and it wasn't enough. Well and another injury. They said,

without Chazier there, that made a huge difference on their defense. Well, that's that's one of those things where you know it's not supposed to though, right, one guy step it up. Oh that's I'll tell you what. There's some teams, there's some teams, there's some teams in AFC now that without Chasier, that is a different defense without him there from Pittsburgh. And they didn't have an easy test. This weekend they

have this Patriots. Yes, is that a Thursday game? This Sunday game Sunday Sunday Fox, Oh, tonight's yeah, Patriots Dolphins tonight. What I was, Yeah, Yeah. The Cowboys go, of course up to Oakland next week to face the Raiders, who just lost to Kansas City at Kansas City last time in the black Hole for you guys, you miss that place. I'm miss going on the field, you know where they go. Get your picture made by the black hole made locker room, the picture made come through in the middle there and

I saw rats running around. Oh sure, good sewage, I'll miss that. Hey, be sure and take your coat tape and the air press box and the fine air. The windows will be fine on open air. I think it's in the in the in the baseball press box where we sit was open air. It's gonna be nice though, right, it'd be nice out there. I don't remember it being open air. I'm just saying, take a jacket. Okay. Remember in the preseason it was open air. We're in the

baseball press box at auxiliary press box air conditioning. No, no, no, I have sixty four on Sunday at Oakland. Sounds good. I'm gonna miss the the uh the locker not the locker room, the coaching interview in that hallway, the way room. It can't you can't get any Oh yeah, they moved it. It's in the weight room. It's in the four or there. Yeah. We did it in the hallway and everybody was like, you know, just fend for yourself. Can't wait. Bring it on.

Our photo area is literally the a's dugout. And then the elevator that one year didn't work. Oh no, we had to walk up matter. One time. We had to try and get Monty from the locker room to the press box. We got lost. Me and U was one of the coaches when the day Berganzi. We were trying to get into the We couldn't find the elevator to get to the press box. Here's Monty trying to call the game. We couldn't get him to the press Well.

I'm excited, I'm ready for it, and I'm ready to get more into it this week, starting tomorrow, we'll be back here, same time, same place, same I like that idea of the picture. Happy birthday, Thank you guys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.