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are what would we call Wednesday? I'm not sure what we'd call Wednesday, but we survived a Taco Tuesday, and now we the big mystery here is what happens with the Cowboys roster now that Robert Quinn is back at practice. As the team heads out to the practice field at this hour and they have until three o'clock this afternoon to make a roster move. And hello, Mickey, how are you? I am doing fine? How are you very well? About you? Rob doing well? Sir? And Brian brought us Brian very

busy over there. I'm sorry, I'm laid on marriscope up and run. I'm laid on periscope. I'm sorry about folks, I am. And let's start with the fact that this is Dolphins week. Yeah, yes, and it is, in the words of a former Cowboys coach, Iowa State Week. Oh. In fact, it was twenty five years ago next month that the Dallas Cowboys traveled to Cincinnati to take on

Iowa State. And that was a close game. It was an Owen seven Iowa State cyclone team, wasn't it, Mickey, Yes, it was and uh yeah, they almost came back to nip him in the bud. Huh Is that like the comment in the paper Tuesday? You know, back in the day, there was one press conference a week for the head coach. There were there were availability these after practice, but there was one of these that you just heard, the Jason Garrett press conference, which is basically a daily thing, which started.

I guess when when did that start? Made it what every day? Yeah? But Barry okay, week after he would but there would be one where you're in the meeting room there and it's a it's a big deal. It was a Tuesday, and at his Tuesday press conference that week, as the Cowboys were preparing to play the Owen seven Cincinnati Bengals. Barry made the comment that it's kind of like when you go play I always state and getting your team ready to play a team that hadn't won

a game. Basically, I think it's the day thing started with Bill. Okay, but and that was because Bill was still good at these press conferences. So then what was very memorable. The Bengals played the Cowboys off their rear and then the handshake after the game was interesting. What was it, David Shu David Shula. Yeah, yeah, David Shula was the head coach of the Bengals and he had some choice words for Barry in the post game handshake. That was funny. David Schula got fired from here after

the eighty nine season though, right right after night. But Sula, it was the coach of the Bengals, you know, that gave it a twenty three twenty game is very close game. So the word awarning there is despite the fact that the Miami Dolphins are thirty second in the league in offense thirty second in the league in defense, once upon a time, the Cincinnati Bengals at seven played the Cowboys

off their feet. Yeah, I feel like the only real chant that the Dolphins have in this game is if Ryan Fitzpatrick does try to turn this into a shootout, if he just if he just goes toe to toe with with Dak Prescott and both teams, you know, can't I mean, let's see if Dallas can't get pass rush and Fitzpatrick gets the ball out. You know, DeVante Parker's really their best option throwing the football down the field too. They're going to take some shots. They took some shots

against Baltimore, they took some shots against New England. And Parker has the ability to elevate. He's a big, tall, long receiver that can go get the football. So we've seen and I brought it up yesterday with with Fitzpatrick that he took an undermanned Tampa Bay team into New Orleans in Week one last season and turn it into a shootout type of a game where he dueled where he dueled Drew Brees and then they came away with

a victory. Does magic was born? Yeah? See, that's that's where you know he's capable of lighting up a defense. If you don't get pressure on him, the ball comes out quick with him. Had they had success these first two games, absolutely not. But that's the one hope that they have that they you know, if Dallas doesn't get the pass rush doesn't affect the way he throws the football, that he will sit there and get the shotgun snap and just keep firing it and that, and that's their

best chance to win. That's the man. That's their only chance to win in this game. That and taking the ball away. You saw what happened. You know, Washington takes a I believe they scored first after a Dack interception, got the ball at to dallas thirty eight yard line and was able to cash in. So, you know, Cowboys have to keep their mistakes at a minimum as well. Well, what you worry about is this team comes in with nothing to lose, right, so they can just zing it

around and whatever. But let's put this thing in perspective. They've had two games and they've totaled twenty three first downs. Yeah, that's like what eleven and a half a game. No, there's no question they've ruggle and that's why they're O and two. Both these losses have been at home though, too. They've averaged one hundred and ninety two yards a game, one hundred and ninety two, and they've averaged one hundred

and sixty yards a game passing so Fitz magic. I don't know when it's gonna sprout up, but two pick sixes I believe last week in the second half. I mean, they haven't been able to do anything offensively or defensively. If you look at these numbers, have you ever seen a team or seen a Cowboys team go up against a team that has ranked last in the league in offense and defense. I realize it's just two games, but it's probably happened, right, maybe not dead last. They just

have trouble sustaining drives. I mean they're five of twenty five on third down through two games. Fifty nine to ten followed by forty three to nothing doesn't happen in this league, I think, I think maybe one time in history, because they matched an all time record getting outscored by nine two points in two consecutive games. This league is a strange Lady boys, Oh, I know, I know, you

can't take anything. I never thought that. I never thought that New England would roll into Detroit last year and taking ll You know, I mean, there's there's there's games that happen, and I'm not trying to blow smoke up everybody's ass here and say that this game, and Mickey's absolutely right, they're god awful. Okay. The chance they have, though, is they have a quarterback that's not afraid to throw interceptions. He's not afraid to throw the ball down the field.

He's tough as all. He's the toughest s ob quarterback I've ever seen in my life as far as taking hits and getting up and keep playing. And if Dallas does turn the ball over, but you don't know, trust me. I was on a team at LSU, seventh ranked team in the country. It was beaten by Miami, Ohio because we turned the ball over five times. It happens. I'm just saying, I'm just you know, I'm just putting it out there. You know, we can we can roll through

all these numbers and everybody can agree on it. But what was the score of the Dolphins Patriots game last week with three minutes to go in the third quarter? I believe it was thirteen to nothing. It was sixteen to nothing. Sixteen to nothing, yeah, yeah, So I mean it was thirteen nothing at halftime, so they were hanging in there. Yeah. And if you go back and look at the at the game, even early in the game, they've got a simple little third down conversion that the

wide receiver just drops. They had had they had a tip things, they had a tip ball that went. They threw the ball to to their running back in the flat and he knocked the ball up in the air and they gotta gotta pick Collins, gotta pick six off that. So again I'm just saying though, I mean, well, Dallas win this game. Yes, that probably will win this game. I just don't think that they're gonna beat him forty

three to nothing. And they played against two of the hottest teams in the league the first two weeks exactly, there's no questions the road. So also a very young football team and getting younger by the trade. I mean, yeah, Fitzpatrick mayka Fitzpatrick's one of them, but look at the

moves they made at the end of training camp. You know, they trade away Tonsil, they trade away he Stills, they cut Dwayne Allen, Bryce Butler, there's a lot of they're they're starting over, they're getting very young, and that's a big part of why they've struggled in these first two games. And you're facing a Cowboys team that's young but has gained a lot of experience in the last twelve months. They traded away one other guy too, by the way,

Robert Quinn. Yeah, everybody kind of leaves him out of the equation that I was getting went down in. No, I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to everybody else out there. That's referring to the trades they've made, And it's the trades they've made since the season started. They started getting rid of guys in the offseason. Two and all they got for Robert Quinn was a sixth round draft choice. We'll see if yeh, we'll see if Robert Quinn can do what he needs to do. Here

Quinn talk here. Yeah, well they're gonna you know, they seem pretty confident that the hands ready to go. Now they got to see how much he can do. My guess is that he doesn't do more than with DeMarcus laur did in the first game of the year. And I think his snaps were thirty somewhere thirty two right right, So, so, and now, from what I understand, Crawford's probably not ready to go. Eighteen snaps last week, not probably. I think you think he's out. Yeah, I think he's out. Crawford

not practiced today tells me a lot. And then that's why I brought up the point yesterday about potentially keeping Taco if you're the front office, because you're not sure what's going on with with with Crawford's injury. To me, I don't think Crawford's playing this game. And so and if that's the case, If if they don't keep Taco, then you understand how down they are him absolutely on

his attitude and and because it's almost like they need them. Yeah, but if they don't keep them, then I think that speaks volumes of what they think about they would rather go with, They would rather go with everybody else but Taco, who who we all talked about. And this by far was his best preseason since he's been here. But if they move on from him. But I liked what Mickey

said yesterday or the day before. I believe it. But if but Crawford's not playing, so now you start taking now, start taking all these guys off the field for the Cowboys. By the way, if this kind of evens the playing field a little bit, you know, oh Thompson's playing safety today, maybe instead of Woods. Oh, okay, Oh, Robert Quinn's playing? Who's playing? Riding Quinn? And Dorne Armstrong? Okay, who's playing? You know? I mean no, no, Now you don't have

Crawford to help out with the loss of Woods inside. Sure, he can't go. Sure, So now Tristan Hill's gonna have to to suit up. Yeah, and Christian Covington's you're starting nose tackle that one doesn't bother. I'm just saying you much. Your depth is this, Yeah, you're playing a game with You're playing a game with players that might be similar to what the Dolphins starters are. That's where you have to be a little bit cautious about this game as well.

I'm okay with Covington. But then what happens if you have one more inside, no question, then you're you got Joe Jackson college college MALIEK. Collins could play the one, and I think he's going to have to play the one this week and have it he'll have and he'll play the three, the three. Yeah, yeah, well Covington, he'll play the one. Will start rotate guys through that, and then you don't have your you don't have the ability to move Crawford inside on passing downs to be a

pass rusher. Yeah, next to Collins, next to MALIEK Collins, So yeah, you start getting then you're one injury away. So yeah, we hear all about this depth and it's all great when you have all your starters there, But then when those guys are the starters, then what do you have and they get a rash of injuries at the same position, you can get yourself in trouble. People are on the unperiscope they think I'm picking the Dolphins and say I'm picking the Dolphins. Look, it's just the NFL.

I just played sense like brought us is picking the Dolphins. All you gotta do is go ask the nineteen eighty nine Washington Redskins. I totally agree with that, a team that should not have won, gained about all year long, and they went in there and winning the game. What thirteen to three or some business like that, Dallas will win this game. But to think it's gonna be forty three to nothing, I don't think so. I just I could say you start taking players out and playing with

backup players, And Mickey made another point right there. You start playing with backup guys. Now things start to be a little bit more equal, is it? Is it going to be perfect? No, it's not, but it's a little bit more equal. I mean, think about it at safety. Yeah, if Xavier Woods can't go okay, okay, go on good, We got Darien Thompson. Well, now what happens with one more injury? Then you're back there with Frazier or Wilson

Donovan Wilson. Yeah, it could be donovand Wilson's time. And then you start slinging it around sort of what the Cowboys due to the Redskins right when they had the injuries at the cornerback position, no Dunbar, no Morrow. They had to have a rookie in the slot Moreland and then and then uh Rogers Kmarti gets hurt, and what did the Cowboys do? Hey, we're going three wide every play here because you don't have guys to cover us.

Don't forget about the wide receiver position because gallop while they have depth at receiver, and we saw it clearly with Devin Devin Smith last week. What's table on Austin's status this week? They had it. They had to make a move last week to account for him. And now you know you don't have gallop Police for a couple of weeks, So do they have to make another roster

move to help your numbers at wide receiver. I feel pretty good about the overall group because the offense has been what it's been for two weeks and they've still got weapons. Devin Smith as a proven commodity, sure, but they may have to figure out their depth there as well. So yeah, I mean, it's what was the what was what pac Man say in two thousand and eight when they were playing the Rams. It's the Rams, the Rams, dude, dude, and it was one of the worst teams maybe ever.

Uh Now, they didn't have rong finger game and no, no, he was out, he was out. He warmed up, but he didn't play. Brad Johnson, right, Brad Johnson played, couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. Still, Still, nobody gave the Rams a chance and they kind of blew them out because they were The point is to what y'all

pointed out, it's the NFL and games. It I don't think people realize how hard it is to win an NFL football game, no question, no matter who you're playing against, no question, it's the whole I know it's the whole they get paid too, but it's really true. The Rams hadn't won a game that here. It changed the roach. It was Jim Haslett's first game Introm's the Rams, dude, Dude, dude,

it's the Dolphins, dude. It was Brat Johnson. Dude. So behind the scenes, as we approach a three o'clock deadline where they need to make a roster decision on who goes what, what do you think they're choosing between? Well, I think they probably already made it because whoever you're going to release you, I'm not going to practice him, right. That's why I asked. I ask that question to walk off because I'm like, do you got to practice all

your guys? He said for the most part, And I'm thinking, okay, who who? Now we need to check and see who's not practicing. Well, it does make sense to wait because you get through this practice and if somebody were to get hurt in practice, it might impact your decision on

where your depth is and things of that nature. So I understand why they haven't officially made a move yet, and I understand why the league has it where it's Wednesday at three o'clock where you make the roster move rather than Tuesday at three o'clock, because that way the suspended player you can actually see him on the practice all to see where he is. Ye as well, they got to make the move regardless. Yeah, I don't get why it's Wednesday instead of Saturday for sand who did

not report, but it is what it is. That's the NFL. Someone want to go check out practice or do we want to give it a couple of minutes and then we do have a break. We want to wait a couple of minutes to get to make sure everybody's out on the practice field so we can check to see who's not there, or go ahead. It's a long walk here,

it's like ten feet away from it. Make you take your phone and go out there in the practice field, all right, And so we are going to take a break and if we haven't determined who's not on the practice field by the time we come back, and maybe Mickey will join us live via his cell phone when we come back. Your new apartment's big, such a great deal, It's okay, just okay. What's not right about the subway? Well, I bet you don't even notice it after that's my neighbor.

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is checking it out. Brian and I went out there as well, just to get a gauge on who is on the practice field and who is not on the practice field. And we had to like a forty five second glimpse of who's out there, and my back hurt. So getting it out of that. Chairs now appreciate someone had to hold down the follow like David Hellman and those guys that are out there watching practice right now, because I'm getting reported Taco was not on the field.

So we'll see if that in fact holds true. Okay, we will keep checking that as we go along here. That may tip us off to something, you know. It's It's interesting, though, is when you look at the Cowboys pass rush in these first two games, and in fact, Jason Garrett even talked about it after the Redskin game that they need to improve the pass rush. If the Cowboys have a healthy Robert Quinn, what does that do for their pass rush? Well, if it's a healthy Robert Quinn,

he gives you another weapon on the outside. He gives you a different dynamic than what you have from Crawford. Now, Crawford will would continue to start Crawford was healthy, he would still continue to be your right end and then situationally, you would see Quinn and come into the game and rush and they kick Crawford down inside. So then you'd have Collins, Crawford, Quinn, and Lawrence as your four primary

pass rushers. So Robert Quinn still has something left on the tool belt, and he said mean not to what. He still got something in the tank. But he's got stuff in the tool belt. And you start talking about how Lawrence rushes with all the different variety of moves that he goes with, the rips, the swims, the dips, the stutter step that he used. Robert Quinn's very similar that way himself. So now you have two pass rushers

that have that kind of ability. If Robert Quinn can go back to his days, and we've seen him at Miami have some a little success, the rams is where he had his big success, you know, rushing, getting that wide nine technique and coming off the edge and then causing problems there. He's fresh, he's healthy, the hand, everybody feels like the hand is going to be in good shape, ready to roll. So we'll see how it all plays out for him. But yeah, he still can rush the passer.

He's still capable of affecting the pocket, and now you have two legitimate you get the push from the inside, and you have guys like Lawrence and Quinn and those guys coming off the edge. The pass rush will improve in that way. They just have not. They played against a couple of quarterbacks that are veterans, savvy quarterbacks that go back ball out of hand, Get back ball out of hand, get back ball out of hand. And they'll play another one this week that's that way too. This

guy will get rid of the ball quickly. But yeah, as you can see in the highlights right there, his ability to break down tackles, I think is where he's made a living throughout his career. That lanky ability to kind of move keep the blocker's hands off him and then allow him to rush the passer. Is he an

underrated run defender as well too? Yeah, it's hard got to get around the edge because for how much he plays up the field, he's able to keep things wide and then and not allow you to hook him, you know. So yeah, that's that's one of the reasons why though they really like Crawford over there, that's because, yeah, because he's that edge setter on the right side. If you

don't have him. You need somebody that can do that. Yep, absolutely perhaps, And and you know, the concern on Crawford is it is how long is he going to be bothered by this hip injury. It is already week three and here we go. You know, we've got a long season here as we all. So yeah, it's going to be about managing him. And again, you know it's the it's a game against the Dolphins this week, you probably sit him and get him ready for Saints and then

the Packers the following week after that. I mean, this is just not going to be easy for a lot of these guys that you know. Brit Brown and the training staff did a really good job with all these guys getting him back on the field and and trying to give him a chance to at least have some success as as healthy players. He's a tough dude. I mean, he has played with a lot of stuff in the past, shoulder all that kind of stuff. But yeah, he's probably

in that mix. You know, they gave him practice off Wednesday last week, and when he does get back, if it's this week, if it's next week, you may have to manage him. That's probably they're gonna have a plan for Sean Lee. They're gonna have a plan for for probably Zach Martin throughout the season to get through the back injury that he's got as well. See anything out there, Yes, I did not see Tyrone Crawford out there, and I did not see number ninety seven out there either. That

makes sense. We have not heard a injury on him, So maybe they just decided that's it. Yeah. Um, well, I thought I thought we had a good plan, though yesterday I did too. I mean, so that tells you what I said earlier. There's there's a role of dissatisfaction. There is, there is clear dissatisfaction. The general manager came out yesterday and said he had not given up on the player. So that just tells you the potentially the

avalanche of like Mickey said, he's a healthy player. So it's not a you know, not something that all of a sudden we found out taco you know, burned his hand cooking last night or something like that. He's not here for a reason. And so if that's the case, and they have injuries at defensive end and a brand new player coming in, that just tells you right there that they are ready to move on. And so I believe I said it yesterday, Like at what point does

this come to ahead? You know? And we'll see if it does. But you know, when you take to social media and what does Jason Garrett always say, I mean, it's the guiding light, is this roster and what's best for the team. And when you go to social media and you and you voice your displeasure, that's that puts you at odds with the organization. Now, that kind of stuff can be repaired, but um, it just it made me curious of like, how do you go about repairing and at what point do you can you can you

do that? You know? And and maybe we're at that point. I don't know. I don't know. And when you ask questions about no Crawford, you know, Quinn can't play the entire game, it's like, well, you know Armstrong, Carrie Hider,

Joe Jackson, and oh what about the other guy? So now, and I don't know if he's playing his hand this way or not, because the way Taco might be looking at it, or his agent if he clears waivers, if they indeed make him the guy that's released to make room for Quinn his one point three seven six million dollars base salaries guaranteed, so they got to pay that. The four hundred and eighty thousand of it next year

is guaranteed, so they have to pay that. And then you have pro rated signing bonus still for next year that will go into your cap. So it's a it's an expense. You Now, if you traded him immediately, it was going to be four million dollars, So that also would tell you their level of dissatisfaction and maybe not with his performance with everything else. Yeah. Um, but again I'm saying, if he clears waivers, he's still gonna make

as much money as if he was here. Yeah, so from his standpoint, and then if you're thinking, well, surely you could get a seventh round draft pick for him or something in a trade. That's the big thing. His base salary at one point eight million dollars, the team that takes that takes him on in a trade would be responsible. But guys, for a guy that's a pass rusher, that's cheap. That's right when you know that the team

is going to release him. But if you don't want to fight other teams, but you're also looking at the guy that holds a fifth year option too. So you know, I mean, if he is something, he magically he continues, maybe he develops somewhere else. And a guy who did show something in the preseason, there's no question if you're if you put on if you watch his preseason tape from this year, you're going to say he looks like a different player. Though on that rams game, he looks

like a different player. And so you know, with all that being said, you know somebody might say, hey, at one point eight million dollars, we could do a lot worse of claiming this contract. We could do a lot worse. So I you know, I mean, I hey, Mickey's right about this. There's clearly clearly a big divide between him and coaches, teammates, you know. But again, I'm just taking Jerry Jones to his word that he said, hey, I

haven't given up on him. But but you know, he's Jerry Jones would accuse him of just acting out and doing what he wants to do. Well this case, you know, he's saying, hey, listen, I'd like to keep this guy if we could, and then they're saying, no, no, we need to move on. For what it's worthy, and Rappaport just tweeted, the Cowboys are still keeping the door open for a possible trade of Taco, but if nothing comes to fruition, they plan to move on from him. Here

you go. So, so him not practicing today is about to preserve his health in case they have to trade him. If it doesn't work at three o'clock today, then there'll be an official release maybe that says that they've they've activated Robert Quinn and they've put Taco Charlton on wacause lasting something. If Quinn's gonna play Sunday exactly, so you have to you have to part ways with somebody or if he's going to practice tomorrow, right back too. Yeah.

So and and again you always run the risk of a guy going out there and all of a sudden going oh yeah him straight and then now yeah exactly, and I'll keep your options open. Yeah absolutely, yeah, No, I mean the guy you're getting ready to get rid of that too. But I mean, if you think you're that guy, you'll come up with a phony injury so you can get paid some more. But he's gonna get

paid anyway. So yeah, that's that's the beauty of being a first round draft pick and getting guaranteed money, right, and these days, first round draft picks all get guaranteed money. So se so so everybody that says, see what teams do you know? They everybody should have guaranteed money. But sometimes it backfires on you too. It helps the players

are these first round picks to have guaranteed money. Now we're gonna see this is not gonna be the first contract that we see that somebody's got a guarantee that's a first round pick. Just the way these contracts. It's a way of getting these guys into camp early. But it's also now the guaranteed money is going to be something that people to your point about a team who

maybe would acquire him, Sure he's got salary. Yeah, they can also look at it this way that, Okay, if he went through waivers, what they're paying in his base salary is only about a million dollars more than what they would be paying him claimed him off waivers, no question, no question. And if they're if your team, like the Dolphins who need players robs right though, you might not just you you might not want to just fight. You

don't want to fight. Maybe it's like yeah, you know, if it cost us a seventh round pick, a conditional seventh round pick to take a look. If Taco's active four games, then we'll give you a seven. There's nothing that that's that's smart football. If your roster is very depleted, yes, in pass rush, maybe you go ahead and you make a move, especially if you've got maybe a bundle of picks. Yeah, people have compensatory picks too. You can trade those now

too as well. Saying the other thing, we don't know what's going on in that locker room. Yep, you know he might have ostracized himself as teammates. That's that's what I said yesterday. It's I and I don't know that. I was asking the question, like, how does that play in with your teammates? And when you walk back into the building and you've said, I assume that's what he meant, free me like, I don't know if it meant I want out of here or I just want to play

on Sunday. But either way, how does that play with your teammates? How's it play with your coaches? That's the question I had. Because it's three weeks into the season, everybody's all in right now. Everybody's all in for what you're trying to do. Why do I think, though, and I was listening to what you're saying, why do I think this is just the cherry on top? You know what, I ain't three years of steadily building to this moment.

He's just I mean, he's a different cat. Well, he's also extremely frustrated, you know, after that, and not just but on him too. I know, yeah, that's on him, not just with the team. But it goes back to what Jerry was saying on the fan yesterday, the expectations that come with being a first round pick, and that's part of your job. You're professional. Mickey said, You're getting

paid either way. But he SAIDs you know, remember after the preseason opener in the forty nine ers locker room visiting locker room, he really kind of opened up about it. How you know, I've stopped worrying about what people think about me, because if I if I play very sensitive gap, if I played poorly, I'm terrible. If I do good, it's like, oh well, it's not gonna last. And then he said it's he sounded like a guy that would be open to a fresh start back then, and he

remember he made the mention out of the blue. No one asked him. He goes, yeah, and me and my agent have talked about this. It was it was kind of cryptic. It was cryptic, and it was like, WHOA, Okay, but have been more to it than that. Yep. Interesting. It's on him though, too. I'll say that again, absolutely, Brian. And I'm not trying to jump on you or make

here anybody else. But I'm just saying though, you know, he we we talk about him in a in a positive light, you know, like, oh, we had a really nice preseason this year. Yeah, well, well what about the first year? The second year? I mean, there were flashes, but no consistency, and that's and that's a problem. You know, the opportunity is there for him right now here with

Tyrone Crawford's injury, there is an opportunity. It's the Cowboys would love to have a former first round draft pick who is bought in and being acting in a professional manner whatever Byron Jones to who they can plug in in a rotation with Robert Quinn this week. You know, I'm saying a guy buying in. I mean, the cow the Cowboys don't want to do anything with Taco Charlton. But it's come to this point apparently, so all right we continue with more talking cowboys in just a moment.

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good read man. That was mickey you add lib that one, Well, that's right, Yeah, straight off the page. No, there's no copy here. Yeah, there's just points, all right. You know what. You're all welcome to do this if you want. Let's see how y'all do this every day. I'm gonna I'm gonna try and pronounce some of those words that you threw at us last week. That's right. I can bring

that one to you. Do that. That would be fun. Well, remember the phone number five to two nine seven if anyone who would like to give us a call, give us a call. There anything going on on periscope ran anything going on on Paris, wos not. They're arguing with each other on periscope. People are People are like they're talking about though that, and you know, maybe I could throw it out there, but they feel like, though that, wouldn't you like to have seen Taco instead of Joe Jackson.

It's Joe Jackson. I mean, it's Joe Jackson done enough for you in these first couple of games to maybe think that, you know, hey, wait, maybe Taco needs a well is it I know it's because of the flexibility if we haven't seen him play tackle yet, But was it just so far gone with Taco that he was never going to get a shot I don't. I don't know, because what we kept hearing in camp was he's coming along, he's playing hard, he's playing pretty well, and then all

of a sudden, he's inactive for Week one. Yeah, that came as a surprise to me. But you're right about the position flex and it may be more important now because of Tyrone and Antoine, depending on what their status is, if they can't go, if they both can't go this week. Yeah, you know, we're talking about a player in Taco Charlton, who was a two thousand and seventeen first round draft pick, meaning the Cowboys still had him under control for the

next three years, including this year. Sure and so and another team wouldn't too to acquire him in a trade. That's why you know to trade. So you just don't have to fight. If you think. If you're a pro personnel guy and you're sitting in an organization, you're saying, listen, this is who we're playing with. You guys keep telling me about our team. Look at our team. Look. I mean, say I'm at the Buccaneers or someplace like that, and I'm saying, you guys keep telling me you don't like

our ends, you don't like this guy. You don't like this, I'm gonna give you a guy. I'm gonna give you college guys. Tell me what you had on the reports. Well, we kind of thought he was this this okay, let me show you this film of the Rams game. Let me show you what he's capable of, you know, let me show you what we might be getting here if we if we claim this guy, that's that's the cell job for pro guys around the league. And maybe that's maybe that's something like a pro guys saying, hey, maybe

we do need to trade for this guy. Let's kicking. Let's kick a seven, a conditional seven to them and try and get this guy and see if we can make it work. And I need to correct myself. Mickey said it right. He's at one point four million this year, one point eight million next year exactly. So if you acquired him in a trade, so basically have him take off the two games he's already missed or already been

paid for this year. I mean, you're basically looking two years, three million dollars, that's what you'd have him four plus another to me, to me, that's a cell. That's a good sell. If I'm a pro guy and another team trying to get this guy or trying to try his agent trying to sell. Yeah, I think, and if he doesn't work out, you're lett him go and you're not

on the hook. No, that's what I'm saying. If you go a conditional seven to Dallas, your conditions and you say, okay, if he's active four games, will give you a seven in two twenty one or two thousand whatever, I mean that to be next year, but they just you just do it at this point absolutely. Yeah. So now you're now you're at a point where you saying, okay, we could take a look at this guy for three weeks. If he doesn't work out, well, you would be on

the hook. You you inherit his contracts. So if you would be on the hook for the guaranteed money next year too, well, not but much. It's like a minimum, a rookie minimum. But that's what I'm saying. Though. You you have a player that you have control over, and he might be better than the guy you're running out there every week that's causing to lose football games. So I was trying to go through my memory bank that

fades when you get older. I don't remember a cowboy being released mid season who was a first round pick. We talked about it at lunch. What you know, I know guys that didn't finish their contracts and you had to go back to eighty two with um. Was it Rod Hill? First round pick? He only played two years here? So Bobby Carpenter finished his deal. Bobby Carpenter finished his four years low Claiborne didn't. Mo did, Felix Jones did?

Mike Jenkins did? I thought they traded Bobby carpentered the Rams for offensive lineman and then that offensive lineman had the holding call in the Roy Williams getting in touchdown got ended the game see Young Memories. Yeah, I am blanket on that. You might be right on that one. I know they was Colombo got injured, I want to say, and so they put that guy in. It was game one against the Redskins, and Romo had a game when he touchdown, but the Refts called it back and so

I didn't account. I don't know where's Wikipedia when you needed that? Wasn't a guy that had the heart attack? Was it Alex Barron? Yes, Alex Alex Barron. No, that wasn't him. But regardless you you can't think of one, Okay, and so after just two years, not after two years that he was Bobby Carpenter was traded for Alex Barron as he's right after the O nine season, and he was an OH six draft first round pick six seven, So it was after his third year. So he was

in his fourth year going into his fourth year. Very good, Okayden Gates, So two guys show more often Caden with him put like two guys were let go after injuries. Mike Sharad had two broken legs and so he only played one year. And then um, Billy Cannon junior had a neck injury his rookie year and eighty four and what about retire Robert Shaw, that was a center from Tennessee injury? Didn't he he had an injury though, that was like seventy nine. Yeah, that's someone. Yeah, he was

a good player. He wasn't a bust. He had an injury. Yeah, all right, Let's go to Mark in Nebraska here on talking Cowboys. Hello, Mark, Hey, how's it going great? Good? I was just curious. So I know that everyone I know most of the organizations. Real Jeff Heats supporter, I know he's a good guy who works hard and everything, but I think he takes bad angles and he cares more about a hit than he does a tackle. But I was just thinking Jalen Ramsey is once out. We

spent a first round on to Mario. We're going to resign him, hopefully. I know that it's a premature, given that we just did it last year, but there is there any chance that we can make a move for Jalen Ramsey because we wanted him anyways. Yeah, but was if if things hold true, if they're a fact looking for two first round picks, then I think the Cowboys

trust me. I was in the administration that last time gave two first round picks for a player, and the owner wanted to strangle everybody in that room at that time. So yeah, I don't you know to me the jail, this is what I said. I said this on one to five three yesterday. I would be very comfortable trying to work a deal with Byron Jones. And I'm saying this with all sincerity. To me, I know what Byron Jones is. I know what he can bring in this

locker room. I know how he goes about his job, I know how heart he plays but I also know what I would worry about is if you traded for Jalen Ramsey, Yeah, you get a great player, no question. Jalen Ramsey is going to hold out on you the very first opportunity he gets, like next year. Yeah, he is immediately going to say, I want twenty million dollars. I'm not going to play for this rookie deal. You

have to pay me. And then so all of a sudden, now all this work that you've tried to do to kind of manipulate your cap and make it work with all your players. One of the reasons why you have one of the better teams, better rosters and National Football League is because you've got guys that have willing been willing to take some deals. So that's where I think, to me, I don't see them. I don't see them giving up two ones. The reports are a team is offered a one and a five teams offered one and

a player. I just don't think that you can creatively come up with a package that Jacksonville would be happy with other than two first round picks. And I just don't see this organization doing that. I would do everything in my power to try and resign Byron Jones to the best deal you can get for him and the best deal you can get for yourself, and play with him.

I know what type of player he is, I know what type of person he is, and I want him in my locker professional and I like Jalen Ramsey going into the draft, no question. Since then I figured out what kind of person and personality he is. And the Cowboys had a home run with their pick as Zeke Elliott. And by the way, just one other thing on that, you go ahead and give up your first round pick in the day tomorrow, you're gonna say next year, boy, I've got a hole. I need to draft somebody. Question

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