Talkin' Cowboys: Bold Draft Predictions

But we're gonna bring you all the content, all the information that you need to know leading into Draft Day. We are Talking Cowboys. Kyle Yeoman's here alongside Rob Phillips, HECKM. Harrison, and back for a second straight week, the great Isaiah Standback, former Dallas Cowboys. We continue to get you ready for the NFL Draft, and guys, it's crazy. Tomorrow's the Draft. We're just over twenty four hours away from our recording of this podcast and you still don't necessarily know exactly

where the Cowboys are gonna go. There's so many different options. Edge rusher, cornerback, wide receiver. Who's gonna fall to seventeen if the Cowboys even pick at seventeen? And Rob, I know you've been around the draft for almost I guess how many years now, maybe a decade. I think it's like fifteen years on and off. I've lost track myself, but something like that. Yeah. But is this just the craziest, most wide open possibilities that you've ever seen leading into

Draft Day? Yeah? And I think you know, Cowboys officials touched on that during the pre draft press conference in that because you're at seventeen, you're right on the edge of that top half of the first round, and it's way if you if you want to be pessimistic about it, you're a no man's land a little bit because you're you're at the mercy of all these teams in front of you. However, I think the Cowboys are looking at it from an optimistic standpoint that they're gonna have options.

They feel good about the overall talent in this year's class, especially those first round prospects, and they're gonna have some options, whether they stay put, which they've done the last six drafts, and just pick the best player available to them, or they try to find a dance partner and move back.

I mean that's something they've done before. Jerry Jones rounds that about Travis Frederick in twenty thirteen, where they were able to move back from eighteen, which is right almost the same spot at seventeen thirteen spots back got a future you know, five time pro bowler. So that's kind of how they see this as as potential options and flexibility. Of course you got to have it takes two to

tango there. But we'll see how they got to see how the board you know falls here in the next you know, couple days here, it seems like it really is in a foregone conclusion on whether or not those trades are even gonna happen. Of course, they had a mock draft the other day, and even in the first pick, when the Cowboys traded up to the first overall pick, it was all a mock. It was all scripted. Cowboys fans,

don't get into it, don't get too crazy. And because they took also Trey Adams offensive tackle out of Washington, which was kind of an odd pick. But it just seems like things are going to be a lot more clunky whenever it comes to the draft moving forward. Man, this is an unprecedented territory with this draft, and I'm looking for something crazy to happen tomorrow at the top quarter of this draft. But I think this, I really

look at seventeen for the Cowboys. We're sitting pretty you know, if there's anything that happened, someone falls, you know, there may be a player that we'd never even imagined that would be there for us, or you know, history repeats itself, as Jerry Jones stated yesterday, and we may trade out and go back to pick up a stud as well. And so I'm really excited about where we are a

seventeen and just excited to see how this draft pans out. Well, you know, the thing with seventeen is that things could work out so well for you because some of those top fifteen players could drop or things could go oh so wrong, and then you've got to, like Rob said, find a dance partner and kind of go back and forth. That's kind of the craziness with being around the seventeenth pick.

And then you add the wrench in of it being a virtual draft in Isaiah, no surprise here, you're the one of the four of us who have actually been drafted. Is the only one that's been drafted. Is there any possibility at all that this takes away from the dreams that are being kind of fulfilled over the next couple of days. I think for those first round guys, I think I think it definitely does. I think those guys really look forward to you probably in the last half

of their collegiate career. I think they really look forward to that draft day, right if they know they're gonna be a first round guy, you know, if they like that kind of attention. I wasn't there that guy I was. If ibably got invited to the draft, I'll probably stay at the house with the family, you know, in the living room or something. But I think for those guys that like that, like that stardom and really want to be there, I think this does hurt them and it

hurts their vision. But at the end of the day, it's a long career. Hopefully it's a long career, and you know this is a small portion of it, and you're still blessed it, you know, to get drafted and even be invited, I mean, you can get the same conversations as a first round draft pick. So for those guys, I think it man affect some of those guys, But for the majority or guys like myself that were you know, you know, day two guys, I think they would be

perfectly fine. What was your draft day? Like? You were selected fourth round by the Dallas Cowboys. Just kind of take us through exactly how that day went for you and was it as stress free or was it as stressful as some say about it. It was very stressful for myself because I was coming off a pretty traumatic injury. I had sustained Liz frank injury my senior back in October,

halfway through my senior season. So from October all the way into them until now, I had and touched the field, and you know, scouts didn't have idea what I was doing, how healthy I was. So by the time I went through the combines and all those things, the only thing that they had on me was previous tape from you know, six months ago, and you know whatever kind of you know, health you know, health assessments that they did for me

at the combine and on my visits. So draft day was a little crazy because I wasn't sure if I was gonna be on the first day, which back then was the first three rounds on the day one, and then Day two was four through seven, So I wasn't sure, so literally, I sat on sat around waiting by the phone all day long, thinking I might be a second or third round guy simply because of my injury, you know, and some teams didn't want to take the risk on me,

didn't think I could come back from that. So by the end of day one, I realized that I wasn't playing some video games at the local RC with my family, and I started receiving phone calls early the next morning. I say, I kind of missed those days when we just packed it all into two days, you know, just knock it all out, but remind me we're the cowboy.

He's looking at you. They talk to you before the draft about being a receiver and said a quarterbacker, how many teams were interested in you making that switch that you ultimately did. Yeah, it was it was half and half. I was saying, I think I think I kind of had like three parts. I had teams that didn't think I was gonna be able to come back from that traumatic injury because most guys that had it previously didn't

come back. So I had that that that third of the of the league that didn't want to touch me. I had a third of the league that wanted me as an athlete, right who wanted me as the you know, receiver slash whatever um And then that which I think Dallas fell in fell into that category. And then I had the organizations like the New England Patriots, you know, Coach Belichick in and U and Billy O'Brien, those guys

wanted me at quarterback. So you know, I got my Obviously, I got drafted by the Cowboys and Garry tell me, Isaiah, we're gonna get you with this pick, and you're gonna play receiver for and and that's that's when I found I was playing receiver for the Cowboys. And then you know, obviously, once I left the Cowboys, the next phone call I got with Bill Belichick, he said, hey, can you still throw the ball, but we're about to drop to you

as a quarterback. It's crazy, man, it's crazy if you were if you're in that athlete category, Man, where did you learn to pick up a Jerry Jones impression that was as spot on as that one? That's my guy, man, there you go. He may he helped make your dreams come true. And there's two hundred and fifty five plus

dreams that are going to come true. This weekend, and in terms of the Cowboys, we saw kind of a piece behind the curtain, but also not really whenever it came to the re draft press conference, it was a call much like this over WebEx where Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones, and Mike McCarthy were addressed by the media and kind of talk to about some of their pre draft plans. Rob, you were a part of that that media group that

got to talk to Jerry and Stephen. What were some of the things that were kind of brought up that kind of peaked your interest at least over the course of that hour or so phone calls. Well, I think when they have these, they have these every year, and you're right, it was a very different format. Everybody's still trying to figure out, virtually including us, how to do this. But it went it went fine, and there were some

good tidbits that came out of it. I think when you when you listen to those, you have to kind of read between the lines because cowboys don't want to tip their hand. They want to accommodate the media, but they don't want to tell you exactly what they want to do, and you know, to a certain extent to a large extent. They don't know what's going to happen. That's why seventeen can open up a lot of different possibilities.

I think it's it's valid that they're not really sure, and you know, and they told us too that they didn't feel like they're tied to any particular position. We'll see. I mean, I think corner and pass rush, we've talked about that for many weeks. Those still appear to be even after the first pay agency, those still appear to be the major needs. But you know, we'll see. Maybe there's some other things they're looking at. I thought Mike McCarthy said up thing interesting at one point in that

talking about pass rush. You don't necessarily have to go the traditional route, as you know, as in a hand on the ground defensive end guy. You know, if they're going to be multiple and he called them a four three defense, maybe you can you know, attack in different ways and use your linebackers and things of that nature. So could they be looking at linebacker, We'll see if they trade down. Could they be looking at another position

like offensive line? Although when I asked the question about center, he mentioned the two Connors. He threw in Connor Williams there as well as a guy that could I guess compete for the position or at least something they're thinking about. So it sounded like they like the depth there. But overall they usually tell us this, they're not worried about any particular position, but they've got to have some things in mind on what they need and what they still

need to address. Man, it was a great deal of posturing going on. They're not tipping their hand on anything, and you can just tell just by the questions that they were being asked that, look, although we may they may have an idea about who they're gonna go with, they're not letting anyone know which direction they're going in because they know that everyone is looking at that press

conference as well. But one of the great things that I took from the press conference was Mike McCarthy talking about the uniqueness of this situation and being with a guy like Will McClay, and also Jerry Jones and Stephen talking about how Will McClay is all inclusive with the scouts and the coaches, everybody coming in together to have a brain trust that knows that once these you know, these guys start to fall on the board that they

already know which guys that they're going to attack. And I talked about this last week as far as that infrastructure already being there, and when coach Mike McCarthy spoke to that, I thought that that was the one thing that I really feel strongly about going into this weekend under these unique circumstances. I don't agree, I don't disagree with you. I want everybody to know if you guys

don't know what a draft board looks like. All right, all the fans out there, these guys, these scouts, these guys have been working hard for the last year right on this particular class, and these guys have at every position. They're about ten deep on the board where they have everybody's name and ask people get picked, they take that name away, and they still know who their next man up is should they have the opportunity to pick for

that particular position. So all the fans out there, there's somebody out there that you want, and they get taken before the cowboys have their picks. Don't worry. The scouts have done their due diligence and they know exactly who the next man up is that they choose to select that position. Man, let me ask you this Ideah, Now, don't you think that it's gonna be even crazier for those teams that don't have a war room this year

and guys are in different locations. How do you control that atmosphere not having that, you know, visually being able to see, Yeah, that that guys spell off and just I mean for me, when I think about what tomorrow, what's gonna happen tomorrow, that's what makes it even more crazy because there are some teams that are they rely on that heavily. When that guy follows off, who's the next guy coming up? How do you even envision any

of this happening under these surfaces? The good thing is, you know, we're in twenty and twenty and we have these cloud based services, and these teams have these very well paid, you know, technicians on their squad, So I can only imagine that they have Google Google drives and things of that nature. Where there's there's multiple worksheets that everybody can work on simultaneously, so when one edit's made, everybody can see what's going on. So I don't think

there's gonna be too much of a difference. It's just everybody's not going to be in the same room. The content will still be the same, the information will still be conveyed the same way. It's just going to be where you're literally talking like we're talking right now. Yeah,

it's a lot of what we're doing here. We're not in the studio, we're not necessarily right next to each other, but we're still kind of having that conversation back and forth, still providing content at least close to a level that we normally would whenever we're in a studio. I agree with Isaiah just saying that, hey, it's twenty twenty. If this was nineteen ninety five, it would be a lot more.

It would be a lot tougher to try and pull off something like this, But luckily we do have an opportunity to kind of stay connected even though we are

apart now. Kind of going back to this press conference a little bit and Rob you referred to this a little bit earlier where Mike McCarthy said we're a four three defense, But there was another quote that stuck out to me and I ended up tweeting this out yesterday because it kind of in reading between between the lines, it kind of made me think about Kenneth Murray at linebacker, just kind of one of those thoughts. He's out of Oklahoma, He's not your traditional defensive end, rush the passer type

of linebacker. But if they're potentially going to move to a three four, kind of got me thinking a little bit what this quote and the quote was the players that we've added to the existing roster, of course through free agency, will give us a chance to shift gears as far as the scheme change we see ourselves making

from here. What do you make of this quote? Is there anything to read between the lines or am I just crazy kind of thing at least at the moment that says, hey, there's a chance that we may switch things up, maybe not this next year, but a three

four maybe in the future. No, you know what, his name crossed my mind too at the same time when he was talking about I mean, basically what he's saying is we need versatile guys, guys that can just get the best prospects on this defense and we can adapt to it, you know, And I think they've done that with the guys that they've signed. I mean, Gerald McCoy's played in multiple defenses, so as don Terry Poe so there's some adaptability to what they've already put in place.

And Kenneth Murray, I think is a prospect that can can probably fit different types of defense as Zach Bond's another guy that could do it. I think live racker that can also rush the passer. Not saying they're going to draft those guys, but that's, you know, that's the type of prospect they could be. They could be looking for for Mike Nolan's defense there, and it kind of

seems like at least they've had conversations. They have had conversations with both of those individuals, and it seems like they really do like Murray just from kind of the conversations and some of the things that are kind of floated out about there. You could throw caleban Chason in that mix. And LSU adge rusher is a little bit more of the traditional put your hand in the ground kind of edge rusher, but somebody that played outside linebacker at LSU, you can maybe throw him into the mix

there as well, just not as versatile. If you're looking at a three to four, then maybe ken it's Murray and Heckman, I know you've kind of kept up with the draft overall, what were your thoughts whenever you kind of saw it is a hint at maybe a scheme change and where they could go whenever tomorrow comes around, you know, just thinking about which direction this teams go

defensively and the whole mystery surrounding that surrounding it. You know, every team some way form they pay a variation of the three four four three defense when they go to Dime and Nichols. So even to speculate on that it would just maybe putting too much into it because everyone's doing it. And but when you the kid Murray from Ou, it's probably a safe pick for all thirty two teams in the first round. He is as solid as they come.

His story is amazing, and the kind of character that you're getting in I said, you talked about it last week. Guys are having the heart to play this game. He's a guy that comes in day one that you know that you can put in any system and he fits

the bill. But also, Kyle, to your point about the three four four three, if we do change to that style of a defense, you're gonna have to have that versatile guy, guy that can do both put his hand in the ground, stand up a guy that can you know, rush the past or all of those things are going to be there. So no matter what we do, we're gonna need more bodies and more versatile guys to do that. Yeah, heck, man,

I don't disagree with you on that either. Man. I feel like a lot of people are putting too much weight. As you mentioned on the three four four to three scheme, in this day and age, guys are athletes clearly the

previous athletes. You know, when I played, I was sixty three, you know, anyone I was with the Cowboys two hundred and five pounds up to two hundred and forty five pounds in my career, right, and I had to maintain a four three four four forty So guys can run around, Right, There's some large human beings out there that can move, and they can move in large like they can put some weight, so you don't have to have this traditional

three four four three. When I was playing with the Patriots, you know, back in two thousand and nine, we had to play against you know, Rich Ryan and Rix. Ryan would come out and have a one down lineman five

linebacker five DD you know. Setup you know, I understand these defensive coordinators are creative, and when they go to start mapping out with their scheme this for it each particular week, they much rather would have athletes or a versatile that could put their hand in the ground and hold an edge, or they can get on the ground and they can get around the edge right, and they will scheme around everything else, so you don't get locked into these guys needing to be you know, six four,

two hundred and eighty pounds. I'm much rather having six three, two hundred and forty five pound guy that get that's strong enough in the room, that can hold his own yeah say. It kind of reminds me of the Patriots last season, where their top pass thrushers were basically linebackers and guys, athletic guys that can match up with this new wave of offense where you've got athletic tight ends and wide receivers that can make big play. So it's almost like, right, I'm a big NBA guy. NBA is

going positionless. It's almost like the front seven defenses. You've got to be not position list, but you've got to have so much versatility to be able to match up with what offenses you're doing these days. It kind of seems like overall fans of the Cowboys have been maybe scarred by pass coaching staffs who have thought the opposite, where it is kind of pigeonholed and you are in a four to three or a three four scheme because that old kind of I guess the past mindset. I

won't say old. I don't want to tab any of the form of coaching staff that way, but I just want to say the new form of thinking is kind of where Mike McCarthy's headed. He even said it in his press conference yesterday that we want ball players. We want to draft the best available. We want to get guys that are gonna come in be athletes and be good football players, and so that was kind of music

to my years. Overall. Now, there were some other at least talking points to go through that didn't necessarily have to do with the draft, one of which was the squashing of one of the rumors that Cowboys fans have been holding on hope for at least for the last couple of months, and that's Jamal Adams and a potential for a trade. Jerry Jones comes out yesterday and he says that it's very unlikely we're gonna trade for a veteran who won, We're gonna have to turn around to

pay immediately. And two we're gonna have to at least give up one first round pick for Rob. Kind of speak to that and talked about what your thoughts were going into, at least what Jerry was saying, because it crushed a lot of hopes for a lot of Cowboys fans. Yeah, it sure, it sure did. He said, it's highly generally speaking, he said, it's highly unlikely that they would make a trade for an established star in the NFL. And his basically his thinking was, at this point in time, draft

picks are so valuable that it's not it's not an asset. Really, teams are willing to move at this point, and because you've got you're onund draft day, it's an opportunity to draft a guy that can be under contract for four to five years with relative cost control. Where it's not it's not gonna hamstringer cap if you're gonna you know, and he referenced again generally speaking, if you trade for a guy that's a big time contract that you're gonna

have to address and take onto your salary cap. We all know, the top priority for the Cabals right now is getting number four done. And that's you know, that's that's line number one for them in terms of trying to you know, spend and spend big money. Has the best pocal face in the game, man. So look, I mean in Caboy Nation, everybody wants to have been talking about Jamal Adam for years now, especially last year, and with Earl Thomas and us missing that opportunity, we've just

been clamoring for safety. Safety uh and there have plenty of them in the draft as well, and so you look, we don't know it's gonna be It really is gonna be filed, but I don't rule out anything happen in last minute or something big happening for the Cowboys on draft day. Yeah, I can't foresee them, like like Jerry touched on yesterday, I can't foresee them, you know, getting

an established veteran at that position. It's just just too costly and we're too cap strapped here in Dallas to be, you know, trying to make that kind of sacrifice, in that kind of commitment. And to my point last time we all got together, is the coaching staff being able to lean on your coaching staff and know that they

can develop talent. Right. I actually as much as I as much as I feel like I know Jerry Jones and I know he wants that seventeenth pick, I honestly think that it would be more valuable for them to trade out of that spot. Trade out of that spot, collect a couple more second or third, third round picks, and get that value that fits within your financial structure and allows for you to gain more athletes, gain more depth,

and more guys that you can develop underneath this particular regiment. Well, kind of going back off of what you just said, Isaiah, talking about specifically the safety position, you're saying that we're cap strapped and it's kind of put in a tough situation, of course, and like Rob just said, you're trying to pay your quarterback here. But is it also just kind of another sign of how much this front office kind

of devalues the safety position. I mean, it's been almost a decade that we've been looking for a star caliber safety, but necessarily haven't been looking for it. At the same time, you've kind of let that position go to the wayside, and Jeff Heath was your guy for a little while. Yeah, I don't. I don't think it's a lack of trust there or lacking commitment that. I just think that you see immediately as soon as this culture staff came in,

where do they apply their focus defensive line? Right, They're focusing their attention on that defensive line in that front seven all to talk to you, hearing about as a pass rusher d line right into your alignement, being able to hold the ford, being able to control that line of scrimmage, because that's where they've seen value in the last ten years. The Cowboys established themselves by get having

the best office a line of the league. So they understand the value of those front guys, which is why immediately they secure that right, they secure their interior alignment. So now all of a sudden, you can't rush inside, right, So now words of value go. Now the guys can't go inside where they have to go, They have to go outside. So now we need some guys that can hold the edge. Now we need some athletes that can

run side to side. You already have some of those linebackers in play, So let's go get some more of those guys, and by applying that pressure upfront, our secondary dery guys don't have to be as good. Right, The QB's not gonna have as much time to sit back and survey the field and be able to make, you know, the proper delivery. So our front seven will allow for us. They need to be sung everybody else in the secondary. We just need them to be good. That's the ABC's

of football, my man, you know. And so when you have the front seven, the front four guys that can apply that pressure, like you said, you don't have to have all world guys. And I just believe that once we brought on haw Haw Clinton Dicks, we got better at the position overnight. I mean, I know that's what we call a bridge player and it's a temporary deal, but at the same time, I just believe athletically we got better at that position. So I'm just excited about

that portion of it. But you're right, Isaiah, like you said, man, it's the defensive line. Those edge rushers is going to make that one one one thousand half or a quarterback. Absolutely, it's gonna be a need anyways to address whenever the draft does come around over the next couple of days, secondary, cornerback and safety, all the way through, the combination of those two positions is still right up at the top of the draft board, at least in terms of what

the Cowboys could use. But do you guys see any other positions that kind of pop out and at least reach out to you as some that could be maybe a sneaky need or a wide receiver or a linebacker or something like that that could potentially kind of rise to the top of the draft board and be there day one or day two. Well, I definitely think, you know, receiver could be a possible depending on value and how early they want to invest in it. It's a fairly kyle.

It seems like it's a fairly deep position this year in the class, specially top heavy. It's top heavy with some of those four or five guys that could go in the first round. But you know, quarterbacks sounded like QB sounded like it could be a need or something that they address sometime over those three days. Uh, Jerry Jones, did you say QUB? Rob? I said QB, And and

I haven't been saying QB. But but look, Mike McCarthy wants to develop that room, right And I went back and I looked at it and he was there thirteen years in Green Bay and they drafted five quarterbacks, including two in one draft, and you had Aaron Rodgers there. So they it's that's always been a philosophy in Green Bay, even before Mike was there. You know, you draft the guy, Okay, you got Brett Farve. If this guy developed, you trade him for a first round pick in three years, you know.

So maybe that's what they're thinking. But of course it's got be something that that fits and there's got to be value there. This week, I'm just teasing. I heard I heard the same thing. Uh. And Jerry Jones kind of put it in the in the in the term of a guy developing those assets for trade value in the future. And so uh. And you look over the course of Mike mccarthur's career, even in Green Bay and

them drafting quarterbacks. That's a big part of the communication, uh, for their their starting guys, having that communication be from their backup guys, and so um, look, most of and it's no is not a mystery. While most NFL coaches have a quarterback experience, so Isaiah, Uh, you know, because those guys are a big part of the game plan, and so I looked with that as well. I mean, but it shocked me when when the question came up and they didn't shrug it off, They're like, yeah, you know,

we'll be looking for quarterbacks in this draft as well. Yeah, absolutely, I think you have to have depth at that position. I mean, everybody knows that number four is gonna get taken care of, but what happens if he gets hurt?

And you always have to think about that, as you know, as a general manager, as an owner of a team, as a head coach of a team, you have to think about the what ifs, right, And even though you're putting all your money into this one individual at that particular position to lead your team, if something bad does happen to him, which does happen in this league, it's

a physical sport, what is your backup plan? Right? So I can't dismiss the fact that they are definitely going to grab a quarterback, But I also think that they need to address a slot receiver. You know. I think you can hear it, you know, and a lot of a lot of McCarthy's comments he really wanted Cop. Oh yeah, he really wanted Cod and he thought he thought that was a for sure thing and it didn't happen. So now you have to feel that position. You're not gonna

be able to feel that position with a veteran. So now you need to get somebody who was established, who had a great career in college, who might not even be a big name guy, but that can fall to you, probably in the third and fourth round, and grab him that can that can take some of the pressure off of those outsides guys because you have Cooper, you got Gallup, you got those guys that can it could take the top off you know, you have your tight end, but

you still need that guy that's gonna get you those first downs with six seven yards is said. Do you think they've got enough of a workaround there though, with moving a mare in the slot some maybe paul Tony Pollard in there, or do you think they need a Beasley cop type guy that that's with that short area

equipness to fulfill that position. You need that guy. You know, every team that I've been on that's that's been successful, we had that guy, right, you mean, whether it was when I was with the Giants and we had you know, a big you know, we had crews in there. When I was with the Cowboys and we had Patrick Craydon who was always just shifty, you know, whether I was with New England and we had you know, Julian Edelman

and Wes Welker. You need that guy that dvs had zero chance of sticking with right or if they want to stay in the base defense, that linebacker has zero chance. So you have to have that individual. You're starting to see that transition, you know, if you go back, you know ten, you know, ten to twelve years when you had the you know, the Calvin Johnson's and all these receivers, it's changed their values. Not with those big guys anymore.

Now was to really, you know, change over to you know that slot guy that's is nippy, a shifty and that can get you that five yards, catch it at five, get another five six yards for matter them. I guess what the sticks had just moved, right. You need to be able to move the sticks. It's not always about

those big plays about withstanding with you know, withholding drives. Well, both Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy addressed that yesterday, saying that we've set ourselves up with the success that we've had in the free agency market of adding some of these veteran guys, kind of laying at least a foundation to add a bunch of talent in areas that we didn't necessarily think we're specific needs early wide receivers. Ride up with you, Isaiah, I agree they need a guy

like that. The good news is there's a lot of guys like that in this draft, and you can get them in the third and the fourth round too, so you don't actually have to address it early now. But Jerry Judy or a CD Lamb falls in your lap at seventeen, there's a chance to get a number one wide receiver. Nothing against the Marii Cooper, but I mean people are comparing CD Lamb to Deandrekins. If you could tell me that the Cowboys are sag DeAndre Hopkins right now,

I'm never going to turn that down. So there's plenty of actions when it comes to wide receiver, and also really with quarterback late as well, and like Rob was kind of talking to, you need that depth right now. You have a backup quarterback who was undrafted. You have a chance if you want to go five, six, seven rounds deep into this draft, you have a quarterback you like fall in your lap. I wouldn't be surprised if they pull the trigger on somebody to maybe at least

fight for that backup role. Overall. Now, were running out of time. This is a shortened show for all of those watching things for sticking around at least through some of the craziness of draft week. Before we go, though, I want you guys to give me your prediction who the Cowboys are going to take a pick seventeen heckmo, We're gonna start with you and Isaiah and then Rob. We'll finish us out. That's how we're going to do this. This is our impromptu Cowboys mock draft seventeenth overall, pick

it and go heck I'm on chasing from LSU. I think he's He's the bona fide pick for us the seventeen and it makes sense. You know, there's some other needs we made trade back. I don't know, but I'm just staying right off the top seventeen chasing from LSU, dog going you heck man, I'm going with the same one. Another one. Oh man, I can't call it, man. That's that's where I have my mindset on right there. I think that we definitely need I think they're gonna go

with a pass rusher. I definitely didn't go pass rusher at what name. I can't get it to you right now. I'm not to go back and go on my dog on cheat sheet. Well, I'm gonna stay really boring and I'm gonna go make it official unanimous with Chase Jason. I think I agree. I think pass rush is something they're looking at. It's probably less deep than corner potentially,

but it wouldn't surprise me. I mean, if C. J. Henderson's not there and everybody thinks he might be a top fifteen pick, now, maybe they go with the best available corner. And there's there's a few of those guys as well. Yeah, there's AJ Terrell. There's plenty of those best overall corners that could be available. My boring pick would be Calevan Chase On. That's who I really do think they will end up selecting. However, I will throw Christian Fulton's name in there. I think he's a little

bit up on the boards. Then a lot of people realize I went back and watched his tape again, this is a coverage corner. This guy can do a lot of things for you, and he fits the mold of what Mike McCarthy and Mike Nolan are gonna end up doing with that defense moving forward. And I think they'll add some linebacker and some edge rush depth a little bit later on in the drafts man doing to my shows with helmet. Yeah right, I can hang around with

helmet a little bit too much. Yeah, and I'm getting there. Hey, let's just throw Grant to help it in there too. Let's throw all the last Tigers straight up, the first overall, let's go get Joe Burrow. Let's figure it out. Clyde's Edward a layer. Okay, that's gonna do it. Here for Talking Cowboys WebEx edition on the eve of the twenty twenty NFL Draft. So glad you've stuck around with us, and hope you're staying safe out there, and it's crazy times.

Enjoy the NFL Draft. We're gonna be back next Tuesday at our normal time eleven o'clock to talk through how the Cowboys did, who they picked up, and where do they go from here. But for now, for heck Ma Harrison, for Isaiah stand Back, and for Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's so long until next week