Episode 187: Murder Was The Case

What it do, what it do, what it do It is your boy Andrew Schultz AKA Mr. Goody 2 Shoes and who am I with? As always, Joseph Huggins AKA old man Huggy. Talk shit or get off the pod. Episode 187 Murder was the case that they gave me. Welcome mother fuckers. Is that why you said 187? I mean, murder was the case. Yeah, because, because it's like, you know. Yeah, OK, I just got it. I thought, you know, I don't know. Notes came in late. My God. So y'all, how are you doing

Joseph? Pretty good man I think. Did we fix my mic? Is it? It feels fixed. I don't know what. If you if if you stop like going back and forth. Yeah, I got to find the right position. Well, you just got to look at the fucking mic. I don't know what you're doing on the computer. I'm. I have all of this stuff I got to. Get. I know, but I'm just saying like here we are. There. How are you man? What is your shirt? I'm trying to see your shirt.

It's actually only the second time I've ever worn it and thought about not wearing it, but 'cause like there's like some footage. It was just like that. I've already worn this and, and like I, I wore it at the Postman Chef. That's that's what I'll just say. OK, Posty. I mean what is a Post Malone Malone concert like now? Is it like calf country hap rap? Like I don't know, I'm no what is. It no, it's all country.

This one was at least. It's like the big ass stadium tour with Jelly. Roll. See, I feel like that's smart. If you do both and you kind of double dip, then it's like. No, like, to be honest, like he did play like like White Iverson. I think that's what the song is called, right? Yeah, yeah, there's white I ever. Said yeah, no, like he played some hits like from back, but it wasn't like. Then he's like jamming out country style. Yeah, and having his dad come

and bring him beers. But then, like, say he's sober. Like, it's weird, OK. But no, it was fun. Like, shout out. Like the only thing is it's like, I'd much rather see him in like a club, you know? Yeah, I mean, I feel like stadium is just unless you're paying it's. Just tough. Yeah, stadium is just tough. Like I feel for everybody. Like it was like like awesome, like great time. Not not shitting on it, like, but it's just like I just it's because it was cool in a stadium.

It was like I thought about like, what if this was like in a fucking club, like, or not in, you know, not maybe not a club like, like, just like, because they, well, the reason why I say club is like they have like the Nokia Theater or used to be called that. I think it might be the Microsoft thing. And it's under the Staples Center. And that's where I saw Wu Tang. So it's like, it's like more of like an intimate vibe.

Yeah, yeah. And it would just be like, dude, like he would just fucking crush. Yeah, there's some that are like worth that you would rather see in a smaller setting. And there's some places, some performers, it's like, I'd rather see him at like a stadium. But even then, I feel like it's so arbitrary. It depends on what seat you get. You're really just like how much money you're willing to spend. I mean, we talked a couple episodes about people taking out

pay now later loans. That was the last episode bro. Or 4 concert Tickets No. It's and I and I kind of get it, like, I mean like some of the best times of my life are at like shows, you know, for sure, or like definitely raves. But you know, that might have been cause of the ecstasy. I don't know. But like no, like, you know what I'm saying though, like like those experiences, like might be worth like pay now or, or, or, or buy now, pay later, I don't know. But it wasn't like I wasn't

willing to take out money. It was just, I'd like literally pulled the fucking trigger like on these seeds, 'cause we just like we're, I don't know, it just I, I just got the like, hey, these look good. And then I was like, boom, let's just make it happen. And our seats were cool. Like, let's not even get twisted. It just wasn't like on the floor. But I also didn't even know if like that would have made it like, it doesn't make my point different.

Like it's like seeing him like in a smaller environment would have been better. Yeah, even though it was still good. Even though yeah, it was worth it, but I would have rather if I get a pick somewhere else to see you, I would have it would have been smaller. It would have been like a 5000 person concert. And not even that. Oh damn, like I'm talking about. Like unplugged. Not even yeah, just like yeah, him show up. I'm trying to think of like.

A that that was a fucking. Like the Troubadour? Wild time in like the World, whenever there was like just MTV Unplugged and at some point everybody did some like acoustic set and then that album would come out and there's like bangers like. I just watched. I just watched like the Goo Dolls play an acoustic set like from back in the day like with. A lot of candles in the. Room And no, there was a rain. It was raining on them.

Oh of course, I was surprised it wasn't raining with candles around them that it's keeping us warm. And like the like amount of respect that they're giving, like the crowd is like for this, you know, and it's like, I don't know, like, I like the Goo Goo Dolls. It's fine. They're fine. I. Mean I guess. But but, but, but like no, I was just like thinking about like how this is like y'all are at the top of the world right now and it's weird 'cause like your shit's OK.

Like it's fine. Well, but that's. I fuck with it. But but like, you're literally the biggest rock stars in the fucking world and everybody believes that and it's raining and you're playing this acoustic set right the fuck now. And it's just like, to me, it was just like wild. It's like, that must be a crazy fucking feeling. Well, when you really think about it though, I mean, that's like at one point like train, there's all there's. Always been, trust me, I've gone

down a train. There's trains, there's all all of the. I I, I'm not, I have to cut you up. I fucking googled the lyrics to train and sent it to my group text recently and and be like and I was just like look how stupid this shit is seriously. Like drops of Jeep, drops of Jupiter. That's what I'm talking about exactly. He's like, he's like he's talking about like he's talking about like the best like Esprescio Macchiato like that you could get or whatever the fuck.

He says like it's like some some caffeinated drink, like specific like before it was even like a thing. And it like, yeah, but like has no correlation to the like the previous line or the next line. And I'm just like, I was like, dude, if this guy can drop hits, I can drop hits. Well, I can drop drop to Jupiter, that's for sure. That's that's a genre music. Goo Goo Dolls. No, that was yeah, I agree. No, but like that was all I'm just. Goo Goo Dolls, separate them

from train please. For the fucking no. They were just no Train had one song, Goo Goo Dolls had more, but they all fall into the the. Goo Dolls are just better. Like the same category, they all fall in this because then what's what's their name? What's the it's three. AMI must be lonely. That's that's different. That's Matchbox 20. Matchbox 20 falls into the same basket. No, no.

Not all white people. No, no, no. Matchbox 20 is like with three doors down and like there is. 3 Doors Down would be in the right. Right, right. But those are different. Those are OK Train and Goo Goo Dolls you had right are in a category you could throw. Matchbox 20 is not. Is in a different category. What category? Very similar, Very similar, but no out of here. No, no. It's the, it's the, it's not even that voice. It's that voice. It's the lyrics and what they're talking about.

No, it's the voice. Every single song. Every single song is just like. Disagree because? Super simpy, mushy, gushy stuff, which is fine, but it's a whole. It's a whole. There's a there's a genre. Of voice that matchbox 20 and 3 Doors Down dead and and let there's other bands like I I'm typing some songs actively like make fun of them, like because I could just sing like that like

before I even started. Goo Goo Dolls, Goo Goo Dolls matchbox 20 and I mean 3 Doors Down not even no the song and like in train those 3 bands there's who the fuck out their songs. Like the theme of their songs are the same. I'm not saying they all sound. There's no, no, I am saying that sounds sad one. Of them's talking, one of them's comparing a girl to space, the other one's comparing her to like what? Something else? Like get the fuck? Out. You're talking to me, That's the

same. No, what I'm saying is like, that's what he's saying. It's all drops to Jupiter, head back to the Milky Way, bitch. I'm talking about the. Style The style, like Savage Garden you could throw in with the goo at all. No because Savage Garden had way more of like a techno like house dance style as this is like white dudes with acoustic guitars singing songs with goofy little like Ellen DeGeneres Bob cuts and They're Out there and Goo Doll and Goo Dolls. No, they all have the same

haircut. They don't sound the same. That they're all dressed the same. Train and Google dolls and. Train that dudes got the same haircut and it was later like that we were past. That cares if they look alike we move past white guys look alike they're. Appealing. They're appealing to a certain group of people. I agree with that. It's like, so now I'm just saying that I make fun of the bands. Like just. Like I can.

Lay it just like when I. Hear When I hear the song Betty Davis Eyes, I can picture the type that song is. It's like this. I mean, it's, I don't know, it's a fairly popular song from like the 80s or late 70s. It's a it's not a good song. She's not that. Her voice is not that great. I know that's like blasphemous and somebody's like mom and grandma would slap me, but it's not that good of a song. I guess. Suggest you look it up when you hear that song.

You can imagine the type I I can imagine. I understand that these all bands were were all white dudes who were all around at the same time who all gave everybody the same vibe, no? Just like, if you listen to, I just want to get a picture of what he looks like without ever seeing Rick James. And if there was like, pick somebody out of this lineup who you think sang that song, they'd be like. That fucking guy. Like it right off the bat. It's it's it's applicable like

there is something I'm just. Saying like this is the most racist shit. It's not at all. What are you talking about? If I said this in reverse about. It could. It could be all it could be. It could be nothing but black dudes. And you could ask a black guy and he'd pick the guy out. OK, but he could be. The Jerry curl braids with beads. I could just be saying this about rap and then this guy, oh, which dude fucking did this?

Oh, it's that. I mean, I it's that dude with the Afro. Like, no, there's some guys. That'll throw you off. No, there's some that'll their voices will throw you off. I'm saying no, I'm not I. Know that you think that and I'm telling you that their voices

are throwing me off. I think exact same thing that you're saying like if there's nuance here, like I'm telling you that you were right with the Goo Goo Dolls in train even though Goo Goo Dolls are obviously better and I'm telling you there's a separation there between matchbox 20 and 3 Doors Down who also sound the same. They just don't sound the same as the Goo Goo Dolls in train, even though they came out at the same time and the same people who like.

They're definitely better for sure. And yes. And Matchbox 20, you know matchbox 20 are the are the two best. Matchbox 20 is the best set of all of them. But you know, like those are the two and the three doors down had one hit and train 2. Dolls is more like softy mom shit now. Edgy. I want an edgy guy but I'm still going to let my parents meet him. He's like matchbox 20 and 3 Doors Down because he's rough around the edges, but I think I

could. 3 Doors Down. So I was like Canadian, but I guess so is Bieber and yeah, Drake. He could be Canadian and hold it down. There's nothing wrong with that. Do you have? Hey, you know, it's not that big of a deal. I'm just. You know, I'm just saying like I. Got a couple of bars. How about this? Canada runs first of all. Canada jumped in the rankings, took over the UK. Shout out I'd like. I was actually surprised to see the difference. However, I will shout out

Canadian comedians all day. Like they run the world, like like Canada brings out the comedians. Are we sure that they have good musicians besides Bieber and Drake? And are we sure that we're into Bieber and Drake? I mean, I like, they're great. Like to be honest, obviously. Across Canadian Ragweed is Canadian. Obviously Rush. Rush is from Canada. OK, who else? Come on, Like this was an honest question. Like I'm like, it's not me shitting on Canada.

I'm just saying like, let's. Think of anymore like right off the top of my head, but I mean fucking. Céline Dion maybe? And maybe if he's French Canadian. You know, it's like I feel like they do have. Bangers, dude. They do have stars, but it's like, I guess what I'm saying is like, to me it's Drake and Bieber, and they're problematic right now in America at least. Well, and Bieber just dropped another. He just dropped an album. Josh dropped his album, I mean. Have you listened to it?

No, I have to see all the weird shit he like posts. On me neither I'm I'm planning on it though. I just see all the weird shitty posts on Twitter and I'm just like, dude, this guy's crazy. Well, dude, are you? You're not clocking it, bro. You're not standing on business, dude. Like that's why you don't get it. Oh God, yeah, dude. Céline Dion, get out of here. Go. OK, but she's like successful like. No, I know, I'm just saying like she's awesome.

Céline Dion was the shit. Oh, I thought you were talking shit when you were like hit. No Celine Dion's got bangers were there. OK, OK. I thought you were saying the opposite when you're like. No, I was just saying like in the GOAT. Yeah, I don't know about Goat, but she's up there. She's up there for sure. I mean, she's got some hits and Titanic. I mean she'll be rich. She is singing a song in one of the most like in a movie that is

while insane. I remember then they were like this movie cost like $300 million and now we got movies that cost so much money compared to that. That was like the most expensive movie at the time because of the CGI. Do we? I think it's like actually still around the same. Depends, like Avatar and some of those movies cost more. But which are also by James Cameron. Yeah, so there you go. There's a theme. And he's also been to, like what, the bottom of the Marianas

Trench? And he also, fucking like, made me think how he died and everybody else died because I went and saw Avatar 2 on mushrooms by myself and like, yeah. What about whenever Avatar 3 comes out? What are you going to do then? Pretend like it doesn't happen. Disassociate. Dude I have PTSD from it bro I like. I believe it. For real. I believe you. I don't doubt it. I would too. So y'all, I haven't even told Joseph this, but your boy got hired for a new job.

Oh nice. Running the sales and marketing team for a company on Friday, well on Fridays when we had the negotiation. Then yesterday officially they came back with a full ask and I accepted the deal start in two weeks. Shout out. Nice man, so you're are you just did you already with the pool now like? Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, I gave them the two weeks. Don't even really know why.

I mean, like, no, I do know why. It's like some respectable motherfucker but but it but it's just like, yeah, so it'll be exactly 2 weeks from yesterday like when I start. It was awesome. Well, Congrats man. Fuck yeah. Good shit. I know it was awesome, like 'cause I was like hard on them,

but like what? Like, like during the salary negotiations, like 'cause like I used to like on the podcast, like, like when it in the very, very beginning, talk to people about like, like what you need to do in that situation. Like, like, just like it's going to be a negotiation. You want to make it work, but you like need to like. And so I'm not even kidding. I said this to the guy. Yeah, I got listen, dude, I'm willing to walk away.

But are you willing to walk away from making the best hire of your career? And he goes, I love that. I swear to God I said that. That's pretty epic. I know and then and then a whole weekend goes by where I'm like thinking like, do I hit him up and like TikTok bro TikTok and like I'm watching my dad the whole weekend. My mom's out of town like with my sister, like at a wedding, so and my dad's recovering from a stroke, y'all.

So like I'm taking care of them like literally from Friday to Sunday. And I'm just like thinking about my brother's there and my brother's like no, don't say anything. And I'm like, it's like it's a sales job. But they might want to see like, like, you know this. And then I just, I just refrain, don't say shit. And then it comes to like Monday at noon and I just like just said I'm just like, I got to say

something. So I just call him and he's like well, because the whole thing was the the reason why like they hadn't already agreed to it because they give me the offer but I just told them like no, this is what it is. Was because he had to talk to his CFO. But it was like going to be at like 2 hours later like when after I called him, which is like at noon Monday and then he calls me back and then hits me with exactly what I asked for. Nice. Well, Congrats man.

That's good for fuck yeah. Happy for you, Sir. Yeah, it's weird that I hadn't told you this before, but but I realized I hadn't before we started the podcast. And I was like, I'll just, I'll just drop it on like, Dang. Well, you know you're well now that you've got it. But I'm also going through it emotionally, bro. Like, shit's not fun, to be honest. Like with. You know, like with.

Everything that's just going on. Yeah, we'll just like everything is fine except for that's the other thing. It's like, I just want to just be honest. It's like like just I'm just going through it with like this girl and it it just, it's like losing your best friend and it's just so fucking tough, like beyond tough. Like so like it's been fucking me up. No, man. And I mean, I'm sorry to hear that you're still going through. I mean, I know that you have

been. And yeah, that's never easy, especially whenever you're like, it's someone you confide in and you talk to and, you know, like when those dynamics change. Yeah, that's super fucking difficult, man. Totally. That's really fucking difficult to like find your bearings after that. But I mean, you've worked really hard over the past few years to put your years to put yourself in a great position.

Just got a new gig. I mean, things are have been on the up and the up climb for you and they're only going to continue. So you just got to really stay the course and with that, you know, whatever comes of that time will be a better judge of that then like right now.

So it's really like living in the moment, but live in the moment of just like trying to get a little bit better everyday or do something different, you know, like you should, you know, try not to spend your downtime not doing something constructive that's going to distract you, you know, like come up with shit like go get. And well, that's why I've been like put like like you just like really working on music.

Like that's like that's been like really helpful to be honest, like, but but I just can't help it. Like it's just like I just get sad sometimes, you know, but and I and I just and I don't even want to necessarily bring it up back up on the podcast. It's just like I feel like people listen like sometimes like they don't want to like just necessarily hear our take like on fucking like the massage or like Diddy, they want to like care about us.

So it's like, so that's why I'm bringing it up. It's just like, I'm just going like, shit's been tough, but things are looking up. I mean, everything else is like, fine. It's just how I feel. No, I mean, sometimes you can be. I mean, there is a period of time like it's not like comparable and I'm not trying to like make comparisons, but for me, there was a period of time when I was younger where I had a lot of stuff going on that was really, really good.

And I was really starting to kind of like just, you know, like whatever you texted me the other way the other day. It's like, you know, I've overcome a lot to get to this point in my life. And like, if you've known me that long, if you knew me when I was like 10 until now, it's like, you know you, I've, I've worked my ass off for everything that I've had to put myself in a position that's better. And they're at one point whenever things are really

starting to get better. Man, I was fucking miserable. Like I was miserable. I felt like I was super alone because I kind of was, I kind of isolated myself to like really just grind it out. And it was super frustrating and I didn't feel I had a lot of things going right, but I didn't feel good at all about anything necessarily.

It was more just my mindset and my take on things, my take on letting people be close to me because I felt kind of, I don't know, guarded and insecure whenever I was, we were like all dispersing and getting into our adult lives. A lot of you guys had your shit kind of figured out or there was, you know, like kind of I. Wouldn't say it at least seemed like it. At least, like, yeah, yeah. Income. Because mine was chaos.

So it was, you know, like, I mean, I think I lived at your house every summer, I mean every day for 2 summers until you dipped and went to California. Because if I wasn't at work, I was like, well, like I was in my car. Just like not doing shit like roaming the fuck around, getting in fucking trouble. Which sounds laughable at this point, but I mean, that's really like, you know what it was. But you can be, you can have a lot of things going well for

you. To bring it back to my point, you can have a lot of things going well and be at some of the lowest points. You can feel like you're at some of the lowest points, whether it's because of relationships, friendships, or just other exterior factors. Those things can really, like, chop the legs out from under

you. Yeah, I just, you know, like, it's just mostly because it's like, I've never been like sober like this and felt feelings like this and lost a person like this, you know, And that's what it is. No. But but then also just the way that it's like happened like just confuses me. So it's like fucks me up. Yeah, I mean, we talked, this

was off air. I mean, you just kind of said it, but I, I, but I brought that up to you and I told you that I was like, hey, like, you know, like you're in a different mindset now with just where you're at with your sobriety and everything that like this is a little, this is going to be different. Whenever y'all were like starting to separate, I, I was like, hey, man, like this is going to, and you kind of downplayed it. You were like, no, no, no, like that's not it.

And you were like kind of talking. No, OK, well, this is the thing I will like always defend like I'd always been defending her and I spent like, you know, it's like it's always been like my fault, right? That's what I always thought. Well, not my fault, but like my fault for like it continuing this long. And it's weird because it's like we almost got like closer like like basically because it just didn't stop.

So of course we we got closer the longer that we would be talking and it just felt like, and then it was just like kind of some off shit like that happened and and then now it's like just, I don't know, it just it's like break up 2.0 and it sucks. Well, yeah, and no. And I was just. I mean, I'm not trying to tell you to not defend her or any of that you did anything wrong.

I'm just saying that like the feelings that you have around it with the point that you're at at this point in your life is different than other ones because like you like you said like you're like, you know, like with you've been sober going through it. So it feels different. The emotions are a little bit different, the intentions a

little bit different. And whenever this first started and you were like upset, but you were trying to figure it out and I was telling you like, Hey, but this is going to like, it's going to feel different be just because you're at a different point in your life right now. So your intention and your approach and a lot of things about it were different. But you know, I mean, there are positives to take away from it. And there is like always, you know, life's a double edged

sword. So I mean, you have learned that more about yourself, more about what you're willing to tolerate, not tolerate, the things that you're going to require from somebody on a communication level or anything like that. You've learned more about what sober Mr. Goody needs from their partner and what you want from a relationship than you did when you got into this. So at least you've got a little bit more of your bearing if you already were headed in the right

direction. Your compass is a little more true. Do you know what I'm saying? Like no. Totally, totally, totally. It's just. It fucking sucks. Yeah, it's just so hard to get there. It's so. Fucking hard. No, I totally know what you're saying. Like like I'll like I'm going to live. Like, it's not like, you know? No, and it's not even like didn't. Know but no but but like I'm telling you, it feels sometimes like I'm not going to. It's like, it's like so hard, dude.

No, no. And that's where, but then that's part of like how just life works in general. And I'm not like, I don't like saying that like, oh, like you're going to live because that's being dismissive of your feelings. No, no, that's what. No, I'm serious. Like, no, I know. No, I have to like remind myself of that. Oh my God damn bro. Well, no. And I mean, and I'm just hearing, and I'm just saying like, you know, everyone's feelings are valid.

Whether you agree with them or not, or you think they're too extreme or not, they're still, they're still somebody's feelings. And if they could control it, they would probably feel differently. So we always, always take that, you know, into consideration with others. But like, no, like it's, it

sucks. And because you're going through this and you know how this feels, that's how what I'm saying is you will avoid this feeling again by making different decisions, different approaches, whatever, you know, we're requiring more from the beginning or whatever it is, you know, I don't know. That's the awesome. The other thing she's I'm a fucking heroin addict right now. It's like who that like who even says it's over? Like, yeah. But it's, it should be, yeah.

No. Shit. Have you seen Basketball Diaries? No. Yeah, no, You got to go. Your mom's got to let you in. She's got to lock you in a room. She wants to, she wants to, she wants to. I literally have a conversation dude. Like just, it's a lot. It's really a lot. Well, let's get into therapy questions. All right, y'all. So for the first time in maybe a year, I think, Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Like I am in charge of therapy questions. Swapped. Swapped it back.

We used to do, I used to do them and then we swapped and then now I like we said we were like I was going to do it but the boys been struggling. So I've been doing both. Yeah, he's been actually, like, writing all of it. So today, murder was the case. Therapy question #1 Would you rather be stuck in a group therapy session with your exes or your childhood bullies? See, for me it'd be childhood

bullies. And not that there's anything about wrong about being in a room with all of your exes, but like a lot of like your childhood bullies or or even people that like I necessarily was a Dick to that's I would want to see them especially like my bullies as adults and figure out what the fuck was up because we were. So funny because I have the exact opposite answer, but see. See, I would much rather sit down because I mean, if you, if they're your exes, a they're your ex for a reason.

And then you've also like hashed out so much shit, like how much are you? Are you just going to be rehashing old shit? And. No, OK, no, I think it's like, I don't. I know I got bullied. It was because like these dudes are like fucking intimidated by me. Like being like some fucking kid from California who could like swoop their girlfriend. Like I get it. Like that's fine with my exes. I don't know, I just want to be in a row with my exes dude. I'm just toxic like that.

See, and I guess maybe maybe for me too, I mean, and like, because I growing up where we grew up, I mean, there's some people that like you so say some crazy racist shit that I've. Yeah, but it's like, why do you even give a fuck what they take down? I I guarantee you, but why would the therapy session would be like, hey dude, we're dumb. We were fucking 16. Like yeah, cool. Like no problem. Like that's the thing I like. I don't hold anything against any.

I don't either, but it would still be interesting. I don't hold anything against my exes either to be honest. No, I don't. To me, like who do I want to be in a room with? Like like hot chicks that I used to like hang out with or. But you're in a, you're in. A a bunch of assholes. Yeah, but then it'd be either a bunch of people trying to figure out their differences and come together, or all of your exes in a room telling you what's wrong with you. That's how.

I'd be fine with that, and you would. Because you're toxic like that? Because you would love to hear that and you'd have something to say back, no? I just need closure bro you. Don't already have it? No, obviously not. Obviously, yeah, you never do. That's obvious. Now bullies would be more interesting because there's but like I think I talked about it on the pod where there was someone that we went to school with who was like my nemesis growing up and then he ended up

like passing away. I think I talked about this maybe like a year or two years ago on the podcast. And that was probably like the person that I had the most issues with because he would make fun of my sister on the bus and then he would like show up at the bus stop, try to like fist fight me, call me the N word, all this goofy shit. And this is when we were in like first, second, third, 4th, 5th grade. So like I become 7th, 8th grade when we knew him, like I despised this dude.

We did not like each other at all. It was like Nemesis, you know what I'm saying? And it was always. You would rather be in a therapy session with him than your ex-girlfriend. Well, I mean, I remember actually maybe on the part I was talking about just who's your nemesis? And I brought it up and then I found out like maybe like a month or two later, he ended up like taking his own life.

Like it was like super sad. Like it fucked me up for a little while because I was talking about it and like, oh man, if I could bump into this guy. And I've always wondered, he joined the the military like he always wanted to 2 Silver Stars. Like was like kind of a fucking badass. Not lost on who we're talking about. I don't know if you knew who Andrew Marcasano was. Yes, I do. Yeah, so that's, that's who it was like we used to get into it

all the fucking time. And like it's crazy to say it, but like RIP. But like we had like battles, bro, like battles. And he would. I don't think you have brought this up to be honest, because I always remembered. Because and then so then I found out later that he ended up like came back. He we did like two or three tours, like I said, when like 2 Silver Stars and a bronze star and was like married with a couple kids, ended up taking his own life.

It's like super sad. He had like mad issues with PTSD and all sorts of stuff and like we just used to get into it and I've always it just fucked me up because for years I thought like, oh man, I'd love to like just like bump into that Dick and be like, fuck you, dude, you know, like and in reality, this dude's like lived a whole nother life, could probably completely changed, went and like sacrificed his life. You know what I'm saying? And I'm sitting over here being

like fuck this dude. Like on some stupid pet stupid garage. Petition you want to have the the session so. I I would want to have closure and my closure with that has changed over time as I look back at it. So like what? Like I learned like when I was going through group therapy was like forgiving people isn't like for them, it's for you so that you can stop. It's like basically like with that like holding on to that like a resentment in ship.

It's like giving yourself poison and then expecting the other person to die. It's like you're the one who's just like, so when you get to like forgive somebody for whatever the fuck they did for you or to you, then you get relief. It's not, it's so like people, I think like they're like, I have, they don't deserve forgiveness. It's like, Nah, it's like for you, like you just, you gotta get like this shit off of your mind 'cause it's, it's

intoxicating you and. No. And that's that's part of. Yeah, I think that's what you're exactly what? You're saying, like, it, it like, and, you know, I found that out because someone was like, hey, did you hear about this? And I was like, oh, no, like what's up with that dude? You know, like, and then they like told me all that and I was like, oh, shit. And it really like fucked with my head to think about that. And it's like, nobody deserves

that. Nobody's family deserves to like, you know, should ever have to go through something like that. And we hear a lot about that when it comes to, you know, military vets and people who, you know, especially during that era. I mean, it just like, really fucked me up. So that's where it's like, like those people like. Those people. I mean saying like, like, like the, the bullies and stuff like that, like that. I would that would those would be interesting conversations

'cause it's like for me, 'cause. In my head, it's like, who do I want to be in A room? With I know I. Know women that I love or a bunch of dudes that I. But it's a therapy session. I don't care, I'm just picking the better crowd. That's true that I'm wanting the more the more like enlightening experience. I know classic, classic US there'd be question #2 would you rather poop confetti or burp glitter for the rest of your life? Poop confetti for sure.

Obviously. Because, like, at least that's in private. That's exactly what I was. Thinking and I could like flush it and like. Nobody ever gets to see what you poop unless they're like in your like unless you're like 2G1C up in. Here and if you get like caught, you could like, you know, like blame it on like your kids be like, who the fuck's got confetti? Confetti in the toilet? Who left confetti in the toilet? Yeah, I'm thinking like somebody's seeing you poop confetti.

Like no. But what if, like, you don't? What? If this remnants remnants. Yeah, remnants, I mean, cause glitter is not coming out. Glitter. Never goes anywhere dude. It's the herpes of the arts and crafts. Burp. Burp and glitter on people. That's terrible. Everyone would know when you burp you'd be covered in glitter. That's terrible. Not kidding, Not kidding. Ran this by the iron, he said. Burp glitter. That's the craziest shit I've ever heard. That makes no sense. Absolutely.

Hard our retarded just say something like that. Yeah, I guess. Therapy question #3. Good Lord. Would you rather never be able to lie again, or have everyone always think that you're lying? Oh, it'd probably be never tell a lie again that. 'D be so obviously. That would be more comfortable and in the long run it would be like. Like does it even matter anymore? Like. And lie if everything you say people think is a lie. You're fucked.

It's like, I will. I've seen there's a movie, Liar Liar, and it's a perfect example where it's like, yeah, his life was less fulfilling and as he told the truth throughout time, he ended up having a more fulfilling life and a better relationship. Right. And like, there are times where you probably need to lie like just like specifically like some dudes like, yo, here's a gun in your face giving your wallet. I don't have a wallet. I mean, that's not actually a lie.

I threw mine out like at the Post Malone concert because it smell like tobacco and it's not my fault. And here we are. But that doesn't matter. My point is there are times where you might need to lie, where it's not like insidious and like, you know, it's like. Well, yeah, I mean. There's a that, that's that's all. You would you would rather but to have everyone think you're lying. All the time. Is it insane? Like is it insane? Like that would be the most

unhealthy, the worst. Fucking place. To go so, so neurotic. Yeah, OK, well we agree there. Therapy question #4 Would you rather confess your darkest secrets to a room of strangers or hear your crushes thoughts about you unfiltered? It's like that's I've gone back. I've gone back and forth on this. I mean, confess your darkest secret in a room to a room of strangers. Seems like meaningless to me. It's like fuck it, I don't care. And then you just walk out I. Don't. I don't.

I mean, either way it's a room of strangers. Like why would you even care about doing? That but like I I but to know somebody's like inner thoughts about you. That would be the. Intriguing part is would you rather do that? Like would you rather actually like know what your precious thoughts are unfiltered? It's not it's not like which one would suck more. It's no, it's it's like, it's like 1. You could do, in my opinion, tell your darker secrets to a group of strangers and yeah, and

then just walk the fuck out. Whatever you want to say, who cares? But would you rather? Cool see, but if you were if you have like a dark to secret like I secretly eat like rocks. Or like all those weird. People on tablet. I'm assuming that you don't have weird ass fucking secrets like that Joseph, but maybe you don't I. Don't eat rocks or anything, but I'm just saying is for for somebody else because I view it just from my perspective, but from another person's.

So knowing your crush is thought that would be like validating and you'd be able to be like up and know their inner thoughts which would be cool in that one. Instance it could be cool or devastating. But what if, like you like peed, that's what. I'm saying like I guess. Then that that might be freeing. That might be like a freeing moment where you say something. Literally like when you pee the bed you. Just no. You freeze your. Bladder.

Dark, embarrassing secret about yourself to a bunch of strangers and walk away. Something that you're like, I don't think anybody knows. I don't have that like I feel like it's maybe it's because I've gone through like the, the, the addiction recovery process, whatever. Yeah, that's like, I don't. It's like I couldn't even imagine like what I would even what? Like somebody. But you would say that you haven't already said. Some Yeah, exactly.

It's like somebody like asked me what my favorite food was Boomer hanging out and and I was like, I'm Anthony Bourdain. Like I was like, favorite food sounds just like weird to me. It's like you hit me with like lasagna. Yeah, that sounds good. Steak sounds good. Am I going to say 1's better than the other? I don't think so. And it's like I don't like know, like if you ask me what's my darkest secret like I literally could like no, I couldn't even come up with like AI don't know

like literally like what? Well. There's, I mean, anything that I would say I've probably it's embarrassing. You know, yeah, we've also had a we. Just have a costume here, yeah, like the five where it's like. It's like just go back and check the tapes. Yeah, like, yeah. It's like, I mean, how much more deep do we need to fucking get?

Like it's like there's just like, I mean, and again, if it's a deep jar secret, Joseph could be lying to us right now, but I'm just letting the audience know. I have no idea what that would be because I don't really have those. No, I'm not saying I'm an open fucking no. No, no, no. It's fine if you do, but we wouldn't know if he did 'cause that's why it's. A Oh yeah that makes sense. But see for me it's like hearing your crushes thoughts about you

would be weird. So it'd be like, what if you, like you had to reveal your? Gamble. It's a gamble. Would you? But it'd be like, so would you rather be in the room and hear somebody else's, or be in a room and share yours deep, darkest secrets? That's what I'm that's the question. Yeah, like that. Was the question. I don't give a shit about sharing mine. But you. But you. I'm. I'm just. I'm just. Curious I'm. Just yeah, that's what I'm

saying. I'm wondering. If I I'm just wondering if I want to know that. That's all. That's all I'm saying. Well, yeah, if it's some random person you don't know and they tell you some. Deep. OK well my could be. It's not a random person bro. But they're but you're there or your crushes thoughts about even if they're terrible, that would be just. That's what I'm saying. That's why, that's why it's the gamble. I don't give a shit about doing

the other thing. I'm just wondering if I, if I'm prepared for hearing that, you know what I'm saying? That that's all it is. It's like I either get to like listen to this and I don't know if. There's a movie for that Mel Gibson. What Women Want. Oh. My God. But it's not. I've seen it. I've seen. How many movies did you you just watching movies all week and coming up with therapy questions for movies would you rather? I hate you with four you would you rather?

Because that's classic. That's classic therapy. One Dalmatian puppies or I. Brought it back. I brought it back to the like. Or have a hairy. Cousin, some 100 episodes of a hair Would you rather? Have a hairy cousin. He's like covered in hair and him cousin it. I have more trust me like like we're not done like Oh no, we're done here y'all what's the therapy questions, but I'm telling you like I've. Got more in the in loaded, locked and loaded.

Yeah, that's right. They're in the chamber, they're in the. Chamber, a little Harry Met Sally a little Sleepless in Seattle. No, I had like I had a hard time. They're hard. It's a no, no, no. No, I had a no Excuse me? I had a hard time picking which one because I had so many good ones and I wanted to get AI, wanted to get a variety. That's the poop fucking confetti shit. Confetti was here are let's get into articles or do you need a break? It's just. Real quick.

OK, we'll be back. Oh my God, this shade. All right, y'all time to start with the topics, just with lead us offsets. It's not like you haven't been doing topics, but it was the first time I did therapy questions and you any year. You got a read the third one, the article you sent me because you always send me Apple News and it's like. I just thought, yeah, I just knew I wasn't doing articles, but I read that and I was like, holy shit. Yeah, so you're going to have to

read that one. This one comes from NPRKERA. Shout out. Brought to view, brought by viewers like you. Shout out. And actually, NPR is like battling it out with Trump. So I kind of liked using them. Attorney General Bondy Brushes. I think no, I think they're calling her Blondie now. Oh, OK, Blondie or Bondy brushes aside questions about her handling of Epstein files. So there's been all sorts of blow up about this shit. It's gotten even weirder.

It gets weirder by the minute and kind of funny that this is all tearing it down. I'm going to read some of this. It's from by Ryan Lucas. And like I said, it's on NPR. Attorney General Pam Bondi on Tuesday refused to address questions about the handling of the Justice Department's files of of from the Jeffrey Epstein investigation or about her reported riff with FBI Director Dan Bongino.

Bondi has come under intense criticism for many in the MAGA movement since the Justice Department released a memo last week detailing its review of the Epstein files. The two page document said the department found no evidence of any Epstein client list and that no additional files from the investigation would be made made public. Those findings, which contradicted Bondi's own past statements and promises of transparency.

Transparency touched off fury among many supporters and president of President Trump. Some prominent figures in the mag of Faithful, including far right activist God Crazy as Shit Laura Loomer, have called for Bondi to resign. And what's really crazy about Laura Loomer? Like sidebar real quick. So she was like, you know, they're trying to cancel me. She ran, I think for Congress or like said something, she ran for something and got blown out. And she is. She's gotten a lot of people

fucking fired already. In the National Security Council, OK, Like, like I'm telling you, this is like, this is like the people that the the American government has said do not need to be confirmed by Congress because the president needs people he can trust by his side. These are the people. It's like fucking 10 people. And, and, and Laura Loomer comes out and says that they're wack. At one point. She was. She was. Banned from Mar a Lago, There's rumors about her and Trump hooking up.

He literally sucked his Dick. At least she's been fucking him. Like it's like that's not even a rumor at all. That's why she got banned, because fucking Melania got upset about it. She's riding around on Air Force One, dude. Wow. Side chick. Wow. At a news conference Tuesday, the DEA at the DEA, Vondi was asked how she would respond to Maggie's frustrations with her specifically. We're going to fight to keep America safe again, and we're fighting together as a team.

That's what's so important right now, Bondi replied. We've got a war on drugs, we've got a war on human trafficking, we've got cartels in this country, and we've got foreign adversaries around this world as well as we're all going or as well. We're all going to work together as a team to fight and keep America safe again. And I can tell you that's what we're committed to. So what's wild is there's been I mean, there's no way if you even pay attention, you haven't seen these clips.

But I mean, she them asking her, are you guys? I think it was fucking Doocy from Fox News. It's like, are you guys going to release The Client List? And she's like, yeah, it's sitting on, it's like, Rob, it's on my desk right now and I'm reviewing it like some of the did. You see what AOC said? What? Our girl, AOC said tweeted. What a surprise that putting a rapist in the White House was going to be problematic for the release of the Epstein files.

Oh, yeah, I think I saw something about that. But I mean, but what's what's wild is so Dan allegedly for deputy director Dan Bongino, like was a podcaster, conservative voice was always on like Fox, he's big into like, you know, he was deep into the Epstein files. Him wanting to release his stuff is partially why he has the job that he has. Same with Cash Patel. I mean these guys created platforms on election denial and Epstein elite. Pedocols. Q Anon, but not Even so much Q as.

Kind of kind of though. Like no, you're right though with the Epstein files with with damn. But. They but they, but they but they but they correlated the. Totally, totally. But that's the thing. It's like, it's like Trump like played into it, you know, and, and so it's like, and it's so obvious, obvious that Trump like did some fucking stupid shit like that, like. Or or he was there so much? That no, it's like 60 fucking 100 photos of them.

Like with Epstein, 19 years. Yeah, it's it's it's and he's on the flight logs. We already know that. We know he's done it. Like, well, he's a fucking rapist, but like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? But all these other people hold on, all these other people within the administration who are in these positions of power. I mean, Cash Patel's being interviewed and they say who has the Epstein files? And he says the deputy, he's like the director of the FBI has

them or who has the black book? He says the director of the FBI. And it's like, like, well, what do you mean? He's like all those things they would have. That's the person who has access to that stuff. He is now the director of the FBI. So it's like they they've ran on this platform of, of like, you know, and it was used as a indicator of how evil the left is. It was like, look at how evil the left is. They're doing this stuff and we need to stop them. Yeah.

And we need to stop them. We need to. So now for some of the supporters, they flipped. And now it's like, well, is Trump part of the deep state now? And it's like Dan Bongino. No, I'm serious. Damn. No. No, I know. It just makes me laugh because it's like, is he part of the deep day? Obviously he what are you talking about? If. Dave Damon Gino didn't show up to work Friday. Didn't show up, no. Yeah, which what does that even

mean? I didn't, I didn't know that like the FBI deputy director needed to show up at the office like. Well, the deputy director does, because he basically runs everything. No, I know. I get what the Deputy. Director does, yeah, the day-to-day OPS. Totally, totally. It's like like the FBI director is the face deputy director is actually the one doing shit, except for this guy's completely unqualified.

But my point is just like what he didn't come into like the fucking office, like at the fucking what is it called? I know what it's called. The who's the FBI director from back in the day that like. Comedy no. No, no, no, no. Like early, early, early. Oh, Hoover. Yeah, yeah, yeah, He just. Started the FBI. He would dress like a woman, often just like Giuliani, by the way. But yeah, the Hoover Building is like where the FBI like, it's like, I didn't know he had to show up there every day.

Well, I think it's well, so this is there. Well, there's more to that, but, and he hasn't been reachable for comment or he wasn't yesterday. But so the next part of the article, I'm sorry, what does it say? There's a war on drugs. Despite Bondy's effort to move, the absent matter does not appear to be going away. Mike Johnson, House Speaker, a top Trump ally, threw his weight behind releasing the files. I'm for transparency. It's a very delicate subject. But we would put everything out

there and let the people decide. But people decided the White House and the White House team are Privy to facts. I do not know. I mean, this isn't my lane. I haven't been involved with that. But I agree with the sentiment that we need to put it out there. So this is like what I, this is what I was. This is related to the bond. Gino not showing up Friday. Bondi said she spent the morning working with FBI Director Cash Patel, but she would not address

reports of a clash last week. It was last Wednesday or he hasn't been supposedly Thursday, Friday or Monday last week with Bongino. The FB is number 2 official. Asked whether Bongino would stay in his job, she said I'm not going to discuss personal matters. I think we all are committed to working together now to make America safe again and that's what we're going to do. Damn, this bitch says that a lot.

But apparently they got into it at the White House over this, where Bongino's fucking pissed because he's like, dude, he's like, you realize, like by taking this stance by me going on because he went on Fox News 1st and said like he didn't kill himself. It was. OK but like also it's hilarious that he's pissed. Well, he first said he's crazy like you guys ruined my career with this. Well guess what?

You should have built your career on some dumb shit Bongino. Like you just went and worked for a dude who used to fucking kick it with him for years and he's on the flight logs and thought it was going to be good. Like what are you talking about? It's like you would never even be even close. Couldn't even snip, couldn't even pass an FBI background check, which your boy did over here. Like when I got became a financial advisor, he couldn't do that.

Like it like unless Trump was involved, like I mean get the fuck out of here dude Like. No, I'm not. No, I'm. But it's in. It's funny because he was so passionate about it that he believed and that's why he got involved in the 1st place. And same with Cash Patel. So a lot of it is let's say, but there's only, like they say, there's only a couple options here. And in some of these scenarios, there's really only two. So either they're lying now or

they're lying then. So because then it became there. Is only two. I don't get it. When it comes to this Epstein files and a client list, either they were lying when they said they had it and it didn't exist or. They're lying. Who's that? Who's that? President Trump, Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, these people that either ran on this platform had insider information or have been in this job since January talking about how they have the files, they're looking through them.

There's 10,000 hours of video, there's 300 something victims like this specificity that they use to describe the evidence they have let lead you to believe that it exists as well as Josane Max or just. Gilane. Gilane or Gilane or whatever? No, I forgot I called her the last week. It's Jizzy Lane. Jizzy Lane being in prison for 20 years. What was she convicted on in evidence? Makes you wonder. But she didn't really say that much. But they had enough to convict her. She didn't testify.

She didn't say shit. She just kept her mouth shut. So she didn't really say much? She didn't. That was the previous administration. True, but I mean regardless of it, she didn't say anything to anybody. She just but but the point is is like, why the fuck is she in jail if there is no crimes and there's so there's no crimes, but there's a list of victims, yeah. You describe all this stuff and say you have it, and then you say or they're lying.

Now when they say it, it's it doesn't exist at all. So either they were lying in one of these scenarios. One of them was the truth and one of them wasn't. Either way, they're fucked. It's the same. And then then Trump tries to spin it and say it was written by the same people who wrote the Russia hoax and the the dossier with him and the P tape and all that stuff that was supposedly this is made by the exact same people and the Obama, Obama

Biden decided to make this. I know it's like crazy. So then he tried to make it. He added to to another conspiracy because whenever a conspiracy catches hold like this, it keeps going. And the more you try to justify it, the deeper and deeper it gets. And it doesn't stop. It just keeps going. Like that's how conspiracies work. So now they're all. Theories work.

Yeah, conspiracy theories work. So now they've they're all eating themselves alive because they all have different interests, they all want different things out of this, but they all use this information. They all hate each other. They all hate each other.

It's like, and this just proves my point, like I forget if I said it on the Potter, if I was saying it's a Diana, but it's just like as soon as our president passes away, hopefully from natural causes, God willing, this whole thing crumbles dude and it is over for everybody. People are fucking leaving the country to go to Belarus,

including the fucking sons. Of the Trump's like, like all these crimes, all this like rift, all this bullshit collapses in one fucking second if this dude dies. Well. Trust there's nobody. Nobody. No, I'm going to disagree, but that's something that we saw. But we're just.

Watching it happen already. With the most recent Turning Point USA, but not just with them, but it's the people, these pundits, these people taking these stances where they're like holding the administration accountable. Either they over promise and they're under delivering or they're, or they told the truth and now they don't want to

deliver because it's damning. Not because if it was all just a bunch of Democrats and Tom Hanks and you know, all this thing, Chris Tucker and all this wild shit, then they would have released it, right? But the fact that it's they haven't, if it does exist, means that there's incriminating evidence against other people. So it's not in their best interest to release it. So they're not. So then they're just going to be like, well, fuck you, we're not

going to release. It it's not other people, it's the motherfucking dude who's at the fucking but he's. Included, but he's included in the list of. People only reason. No, I mean, you realize that like anything that these people do is be is at the helm of the motherfucking want to be autocrat. Like that's it. But no. But if you like. It's not like like if nobody else was involved besides Trump, they're going to release it.

Get the fuck out of here. No, because I mean no, there's, I mean, obviously if there's, it depends on who those people are. I'm saying nobody. How about nobody? Just Trump. No, I don't think. I think there's way more than this. No, I'm just saying, even if nobody else was involved, of course they're not going to release it if Trump's involved. Well, no, exactly, sorry. Exactly. That's like that's. The That's it, that's it.

They don't give a shit about anybody else because he doesn't give a shit about anybody else besides. Himself not disagreeing, I'm just saying that's there's obviously more people so there's a vested interest by a lot of people to not totally. Come out with. Him with him being it so so they're going to say like no, because if they're let's say Lindsey Graham's on it and let's say fucking. Graham's on it.

I'm just saying, let's just say there's all these other prominent political figures across allegedly across both sides of the aisle. Let's say fucking allegedly. Let's just randomly say like some of these billionaires around the world are on this. They could be have a ripple effect. No, I get that. I totally get that. But it just like none of it matters if Trump's on the fucking list.

That's the reason why anybody and that's why the Blondie would not release it like, and the fact that like Dan Bongino like doesn't like get, it is fucking terrifying that he's like in a position of power like this. Oh, but he could have. But he could have gotten that information and looked at it and realized that the information isn't like what he thought it was. So maybe no, hold on, no. Do you got to play? You have to be devil's advocate. Because you're go ahead, go ahead.

Because because at the end of the day, we don't know what it is. We don't know what they have, what they don't have. So we're making assumptions. We don't. No, we do know enough. We know enough, but we don't know exactly. We don't know. Who's on the flight logs bro? No, OK, he's. On the flight logs. But he's a good sexual abuser. If there is a client, there is a Black. I'm not disagreeing on those things. I'm saying there's a Black book

list of people who are clients. That Maxwell is hooking up with these people 'cause that's what she's convicted of is being the middleman and facilitating this stuff and bring and procuring and bringing these people, these girls to these people. If that list of those people exist, that's a big fucking deal. But we don't know if it exists or not until we see it like we're at that point.

We're just assuming like I'm just saying for the world, does it make probable sense that we have a dude who has sexual improprieties? 3 wives, children from three different women. No one's going to disagree with. That no one's sex with the porn star is on a flight log going to an island where a dude is sex trafficking women who are underage and you're telling me Donald Trump just did not and partake in in this fucking crime?

Nobody's saying that if. That's what I'm saying, and that's the only reason why we didn't get the fucking list. But that's, I don't know. I'm not. It's obvious. That's why that he's blogging me. That's. Crazy that it's so obvious but people fucking still. But what if? What if the information is what if they over promised and are under delivering and they've looked at everything that they had? They didn't over prompt. This is what they did. They just were playing the politics.

What if no like a Dan Bongino and what he's going to be able to do, not the administration I'm. Talking about I think Dan Bongino is either hard or retarded and did not. Cash Patel, Cash Patel sat up there on Joe. They're liars. They're liars are. Stupid dude.

I don't know which one. But OK, exactly, all I'm saying, the point I'm trying to make is, is what if the information that they thought that the FBI had wasn't as complete as they thought it was, but they've ran on a platform that it is and they're going to release it and then they're over. We're going to deliver on this, We're going to give it to y'all. When they get into it, they realize that it's not. And now they're trying to back on.

And now if they're trying to backtrack and let's say there's six people on this list and there's like 8 people on these videos, but they say it's this person, that person, it's Tom Hanks, it's fucking all, it's all these liberals and it's all these other. And then let's say there's a bunch of conservatives on this list.

And there's some like what I'm saying is if they're, if the list actually doesn't exist, they've promoted it so hardcore that it fucking does that even if right now they are telling the truth, they're full of shit and they've lost everybody because they've they've. No, I get that dude, but do you actually believe that? Do you believe that there's nobody on the fucking? List. I'm not, no, I'm not sitting here saying that there's not some. There's not more information.

That we're going. To know I guarantee you it's bigger than we even think it is. I don't, I just don't think it's going to be in the form of what we. Think I already know that. Like the fucking dude from Google, Sergey Brinoff and his fucking wife went out there and his wife saw what was happening and said let's get the fuck out of here, dude. Like, like there's it. Like there's stories and stories and stories. Like there's a fucking list for sure.

I bet it's bigger than we know. Definitely not smaller. I think Dan Bongino is either a fucking moron and actually believed his own bullshit, or he was selling a conspiracy theory because he got rich on it, which it seems more likely. And now he's got caught with his fucking pants down and doesn't know what to do about it. No, I think that. I think that some of them like a Cash Patel, like a Mike Lindell, some of these fucking lunatics to a certain extent.

Believable. The FBI Director of the United States, by the way. Yeah, but and Cash Patel did what 2000 Camels was the was the documentary that he was partially responsible. Dude, he wrote a fucking children's book about Donald Trump being a king in like saving like a Princess dude. Like I'm not like. No, I know so but. I'm just saying, I just, I just, it just makes me upset that he's our FBI director.

If you believe, if you believe in that stuff so much, then they would sign up to go be. I'll do that because then I'm going to fix stuff, but I'm going to shut down the Hoover. Building right, no, and that's what I mean by that's that's exactly what I mean by they're either really stupid or they're liars. It's like, like if like you believe this, that's like you believe you're on bullshit. That's crazy to me, but maybe that's true. Or and. Or you're full of shit.

The way Trump talks about it makes you think that like, obviously it's not getting out. But he's he spoke to reporters again later in the day. He didn't know why some of his supporters were interested in the Epstein story and frustrated. And there's there's videos of Bongino on his like 810,000,000 dollar 10 million subscriber podcast being like, don't ever let this go. We can't let this issue, we have to get to the bottom of it. Period. Which is also weird.

But I mean, well, I mean. Even if even if it was exactly what he'd been saying, like it's like, why do you even care so much, dude? And it's only because he built his career on this stand. Like it's only a money grab. He would never have been in the FBI. He didn't have a podcast like this like like no, he would never have a podcast like this if he didn't fucking like.

But if he conspiracy theories. But if he wholeheartedly believed the conspiracy theory, then I think, I think that's just, I think that's equally as possible. I don't. Believe no, because there's people who believe some of this shit that they spelled out that these people are telling. I think that some of them. Truly. Do you think that?

OK, Can I ask you this then? Do you think that if he like halfway through this, before he even became the deputy FBI director, got information that it was different, that he would have changed his tune on it? Or is he now so locked in because he got so rich? This is a fucking cop. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like that's all he was like now he's so rich because of of him pumping this shit that he he just has to keep going with it if he wants to continue his

lifestyle. That's what it feels like. Yeah, and that's possible. I mean, that's partially why he hasn't like resigned in his job. Exactly dude, it's like you couldn't tell him like anything different.

But if you, if you get there and the information is not what you think it is and all you've been doing is telling people and you're, if they are even telling the truth, nobody's going to believe them because they've overinflated it so much that like it it if they don't produce a list with names on it and evidence, they're fucked. Like, like, that's what I'm

saying. No, I know. And to be honest, I I enjoy it like I'm enjoying this like eating and with the big beautiful bill where they're just like add more debt to like the country like more than anybody. Ever. What's fucked up about a lot of these conspiracies? Because these all kind of come from the same realm. Whenever you get into like the Clinton Foundation, Pizzagate, Jeffrey Epstein, you know, adrenochrome, all this weird. Stuff rattling off like this shit.

They will, they all like, fall into the city they all play on if you're not a monster. Our inherent like natural response to want to protect children, to want to protect like the defenseless, the weak and innocent people. And I'll say this for the thousandth type on the podcast. The Catholic Church exists. You don't need to make up so. OK, so well that would be that would be you just lump that shit right in doesn't. Need to be lumped in. That's what that's what Q Anon actual fact.

No, but that's what Q Anon pizzagate, all of those are an amount like they all touch together. That's why, like Q Anon was super crazy is because it connects all of these other conspiracies into one big conspiracy. So they will play on other conspiracies. I've heard stuff shit about the Catholic Church. I mean, they'll say some weird stuff about the Pope and stuff like that, but they were kind of, but it's not. But there's just like hard evidence that this is actually happening.

But they're like making up shit like about a pizza basement. Well, they're over inflating it. So like this has been building up for a while. So then catching somebody like Epstein can read confirms for a lot of those Pizzagate people like see, I told you, yadda, yadda. And those there's a whole swath of those people who voted for Trump because he ran on the platform of crushing that group of people. So if they don't know who that group of people is, they're fucked.

If they know who that group of people is and they don't want to tell anybody because some of them are a part of it, they're fucked. And if they and if they don't tell everybody who the group of people is because it doesn't exist, they're fucked. There's no there's. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. They back themselves into a fucking corner and it is actually kind of nice to watch that. Like we're not even they're. Eating. They're eating each other. We're not even a year end, so now there's.

Already imploding. And now you got Mike Johnson saying, I don't know what it is, but they should release it. So there's a lot of, I mean, Kevin Spacey came out and was like, they should release the Epstein files, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like you need to sit down. Is he OK? Like you need to. I didn't. Even know he was still in the United States. Yeah, I know he is. He was found not guilty.

To be honest I feel like he kind of did get caught up like in some me too shit like that probably shouldn't have happened like. There's AI. Watched this documentary about Kevin Spacey. It's pretty fucked up. Oh really? I so I haven't. Seen so so it's on HBO.

It's like my. It's like like how like they try to get on both my two favorite comedians, Aziz Asari and Louis CK, and it's like when you like hear about what they did, you're like like a couple years later, like out of like when you get out of the me too shit, you're like, wait, what, like Louis CK like. Well, we don't have to get into details because that one, because that one, I mean that one, but. Even. But disease is even like less. It's like, it's like.

Yeah, that was just like a bad date. I know. Like, but, but I mean, at the at the end of the day, I mean, they've backed themselves into a corner. They're all trying to. Basically everybody's calling for Bondi to be fired. There's got to be some scapegoat because they're blaming her for it not being released, but then Trump is praising her for not releasing it. Then last night, Republicans voted to block the release of the files.

So now Congress decided that they're going to block it and not let anybody look at it anyways. Shit's goofy. So if they're not going to let anybody look at it, it's just like you're compounding it and making it fucking worse. So if it's, not if it. The thing is, it's like this is a cult and it doesn't even matter. Like they're just going to go with it like whatever the fuck like, he says.

Some of them are because, like I said, those types of conspiracies play on people's inherent what want to nurture people. So like we're like care for the innocent. So like if there is some crazy suburban mom who goes hardcore Q Anon because she thinks kids are being sold on Wayfair online, like which we talked about years ago on the podcast, that was a wild conspiracy theory that came out where they're selling people on Wayfair.

And like if they believe that those people like fucking full heartedly believe it. They believe that shit. They believe. And I this is how how we know, this is how I know you didn't grow up in the Catholic Church like I did because that thing, because that actually does happen. Everybody I know in my family wants to protect children, but reps the Catholic Church and like would never, ever want you to say anything bad about it, even if it was like that. So it's like.

No, I'm not talking about some. There's a. Cognitive dissonance between like I'm saying people can get caught up in this like where it's like cult type thing where like where it's like you just just justify actual bad shit. No, but also I mean you're talking about someone's like

religious beliefs that's. What I'm telling you that people think about Trump. And I'm saying is if you're, let's say there's somebody who wasn't voting for Trump or they were undecided and they went down a red pill rabbit hole, we see people come out believing the crazy shit that's said on Earth. That's all I'm saying. OK, you're right. I I just don't know anybody who goes down that rabbit hole and is not voting for him.

Exactly. So you would if you come, if you go down that rabbit hole, you're going to vote for him because it's going to tell you that he's going to save you from it. But if he's on the list which he which he is on like the flight logs. And stuff. That's that's why the last episode was like the list. That's not a list anymore. I thought I had it better, but you know, it's fine. But it's like, well, it's just like that. This is absurd. Like the? List ain't listening is pretty

solid. Yeah, like, this is just fucking absurd at this point. So it's only getting worse. Only getting worse. Second article. This is from CNN, everyone's favorite U.S. Department of Defense awards contracts to Google and Musk's

XAI. This is like via Reuter, Reuters, Reuters. Open it, open AI alphabets Google Anthropic and Elon Musk's AI company X AI have won contracts up to 200 million each and that upscaling the adoption of artificial intelligence capabilities in the US Department of Defense, the government agency said Monday.

The contracts will enable the DoD to develop agenic AI workflows and use them to address critical national security challenges, the department's chief digital and artificial intelligence officer said. Office said The adoption of the AI is transforming the DoD's ability to support our war fighters and maintain strategic advantages over our adversaries. So agenic is a new word. It means like a agent like that would be an AI agent is like the

term. And so basically it'd be like kind of like like you have an assistant, but it's AI. So it's like, it's like going through your emails without you having to do it and just like letting you know if something's important or just like giving you a summary. It's scheduling shit for you. Like if you need like a haircut, it already knows. So that's what Agenic means. And it's going to get crazier and crazier and crazier, but like that, like just for the listeners, like that's a new

term. So don't feel weird that you've never heard that before because they these fucking tech Bros just came up with. It so it's. Reid Hoffman came up with it. Who actually like? So it's just going to be like Department of Defense Siri, like I don't like. No, it's different. It's like it'd be like if you hired an intern. And then and then just like gave your intern like, you know, like like just be like, yeah, this is what I need.

And then just go do it. Separately from on, U.S. government agencies have been expanding their use of AI, driven by the White House order in April promoting the adoption. President Donald Trump has moved to soften regulation on technology by revoking a Biden 2023 executive order was sought to reduce a IS risks through mandatory data disclosures.

Separately on Monday, XAI announced a suite of its products called Gronk for Government, making it making its advanced AI models, including its latest flagship Gronk For, available to federal, local, state and national security customers. Gross, gross, gross. There's been like articles recently like that gronk xai fucking like goes in like sees what Elon thinks before spitting

it out. Also just continuingly continuously puts out anti-Semitic shit just like at it like hallucinates and just says like some anti Jewish shit all the time just like this week and it happened like months ago. It's like fucking crazy that the government is still relying on Elon when SpaceX has 60% of all the low orbit satellites in the world is owned by Elon Musk, A private company. SpaceX, not a publicly traded company.

Nuts like the the the people who just came from the International Space Station landed in San Diego yesterday on a SpaceX module. Like like the amount of fucking shit that we like rely on for this motherfucker is wild when his AI is spitting out anti-Semitic shit and going to check to see what Elon thinks before giving you a fucking answer. Like it's so nuts. Well, I think I mean, 'cause you're on XM, I think I. I'm not at all. Like I am, I still have mine.

I don't really do much on it but maybe check for news and sports shit, it's good for stuff. No, I'm not heading. I just but I just got hacked so many times like when in like 2009 that I just stopped. Gronk is pretty stupid. And it what's funny is overtime. So people, people were complaining on X that the AI was getting too woke because it was giving answers to stuff that they didn't like the way it described things the way it would like.

Is this true or not true? Or what's the context behind this? Because someone will like leave it in the comments like, hey, what happened here? Or hey, what's this about? And it'll go get all the information from the video that you're watching and then like tell you about it. And people weren't liking the responses because they weren't like pro conservative bullshit or like some weird shit with a racist spin. So he's updated this multiple times.

Like 4 just dropped because like 3 or 4 days ago on there wild shit was going on and he's he'd updated it from 2:00 to 3:00. And when he made the jump from 2:00 to 3:00, three started saying like weird shit, weird conspiracy things where it was like they'd obviously fucked with it and tinkered and like kind of leaned the direction they wanted it because they had

it pretty down the middle. They'd just give you facts and with without the opinion, but it would give you like a synopsis and be like, actually, this is more likely like not true. This is like the context or whatever. And now it's like, Oh yeah, And like it'll say weird shit like like you were. Saying like scary that like that they can like just like fuck with it like that. And then like our government is just like cool because Elon's cool with Trump. Like it's so stupid.

Like that's really how we're going to get fucked here, dude, by AI. It's it's not having the right people at the helm of it. It's like AI can like be really, really, really good for society. But it's like when you have this concentration of wealth and these megalomaniacs like, running it and then, like, and then a fucking like, wannabe autocrat in the White House regulating it, like, that's how we're going to get fucked, yeah. Don't disagree. Next article. You got to read that one.

That's. No, no, I got it pulled up. So this is from Popular Mechanics by Stoff Demetriopolis. Death isn't the final off switch. There's a mysterious third state between life and decay. Scientists say after clinical deaths, some of your cells refused to quit or even attempt to reconfigure into strange emerging forms. And I'm just going to hit with the bold points. Groundbreaking research revealed that many genes in mice, zebrafish, and humans actually become more active after

clinical death. This suggests that we need to redefine death because it's not a simple switch. Instead, cells enter a sort of twilight zone when the Organism dies. Related research also raises profound questions about consciousness and dying, and also may yield medical knowledge about the death process. After a long day in the lab, 2 biologists joked over Beers after about studying what happens to genes, the body's protein based hereditary DNA sequences after death.

Well, of course all the genes stop, said Peter Noble, PhD, who was then splitting time between the University of Washington and the Max Planck Society, a pre eminent research organization in Germany. That'd be an interesting experiment to do, replied Alex Postgadolph, PhD, who was based at Max Planck. What began as a playful exchange soon took on a life of its own, however. The pair spent the next year doggedly pursuing funding and

fielding plenty of skepticism. People thought we were crazy, Nobel says. Or recalls. But Max Planck eventually came through. The team ran experiments on mice and zebrafish. What they discovered and published in 2017 was startling. Around 1000, genes didn't just linger, they became more active after clinical death at distinct intervals ranging from 30 minutes to 48 hours. Many of the activated genes regulated inflammation, immune defense, embryonic development,

and even cancer. This unexpected activity became known as the And this is going to be like hard ass word to say Santo transcriptome from the the Natos, the Greek God of death and transcriptome a full set of RNA in a cell. It refers to genes that turn on post mortem, as if cells were trying to mount a final biological response. Death, Nobel concluded, isn't a biological switch, but more of a dimmer, ushering in what he calls a twilight third state between life and full cellular decay.

In 2018 from Barcelona's Center for Geonomic Regulation, genomic sorry regulation reinforces VIEW researchers. They analyzed over 7000 RNA samples from 540 deceased human donors that found that gene expression ramps up in a tissue dependent manner. Their work, published in Nature Communications, even suggested that posthumous activity could help estimate time of death. There have been multiple papers published after hours, and they found similar trends.

Nobel says these findings suggest that we meet We may be on the verge of a renaissance in how we define death. Recent breakthroughs certainly point in that direction. In 2019, researchers at Yale use the system called Brain Acts to restore cellular and synaptic activity in pig brains 4 hours after death without restoring consciousness, suggesting that death may not be a singular, irreversible moment.

Meanwhile, researchers at the University of Michigan observed surgeries surges of electrical electrical activity in human brains following cardiac arrest, prompting new questions about what the brain is doing in its final moments. What do you think about this? I mean, that's not that surprising 'cause they've, you know, there's that old thing like when you cut somebody's head off with the guillotine, they could still. See, that's kind of what I was

thinking too. 10 or 15 like, yeah, I mean. Like a snake like, you know, like still moves like yeah, but but. What's that movie like 23g or something like you lose like everybody loses the weight of. 23 different. That's. Yeah. Well, it's with Benicio El Toro, I think. Yeah, it might be 20. Is it 23? Maybe? That sounds right. That sounds right, but no, yeah, that's about like your soul leaving your body. As. Soon as you die you lose a specific amount of weight. That's just a fact.

Makes me think the boy got spiritual over the last few years too. I mean, but I mean that there's still activity. That's not surprising. I mean just because our consciousness is left. But it's yourself. Like, this isn't like, you know what I'm saying? It's your body. So like, OK, but you're dead. Yeah, but your shit's still alive. Yeah. So I do agree, like the reason why I put this in here it is it

is trippy to think about. Yeah, but like, it's weird if you've ever been on the country and someone is about to cook a fresh chicken and pluck it and then cut its head off and it runs around for 4 minutes. Totally, totally get that, Totally get that. But what I'm saying is to me, it just shows like how little we really know about consciousness.

And like, if you know, it's like if I don't know what you think, like what happens to you when you die, I don't know what I think, but kind of thing something. And so it's like it to me, it's just like, like it just proves that like we have no fucking clue like what happens and, and like, and like we're going to find out like more and more and

more. Yeah, find out more before we before it happens 'cause you're like when it happens and you're like, oh shit, this is what it is, but then it's too late. Oh well, yeah, no, no, I. Don't die and come back and tell you about it. Yeah, that's exactly what I

mean. It's just like we're going to realize, like realize like, you know, like squid came from a different asteroid than humans did and like whatever microbes and like that, that's what I was just trying to sell the iron ape on. It's just like, 'cause we always talk about they're aliens and it's like we're going to find out like the reason why they seem like aliens is cause like an asteroid hit with microbes from like one place. Then they became fucking giant squid and sharks.

By the way, by the way, y'all just found this out. Sharks have been on the planet longer than trees. I didn't even know the earth existed without trees. Sharks have been here longer. Longer than dinosaurs. 500 million years. Crazy stat Crazy aliens if you want to consider aliens to be something different than humans. Yeah. I don't think mammals, any mammal on the earth is different than from the like microbe that humans start from, or birds or reptiles to be honest.

I'm talk, I'm talking specifically. Sharks are not a mammal. Right, birds, and I mean birds and. Dolphins are mammals. Sharks aren't right 'cause they got gills. No, yeah, they're not. They're not mammals, Yeah. Whales are mammals. Yeah, whales are mammals. That's. What I'm saying again? Squid, sharks, Zebra fish. Unless it's a whale shark. Good point. Anomaly Onomatopoeia No. That's with an onomatopoeia. And I just wanted to say that. So if I were to say something, I'm.

Just throwing shit out there like it's just interesting to me. No, I'm not disagreeing. I think it's super interesting. And I mean, obviously we're going to hopefully we do understand more that way. Maybe it'll give people some kind of solace and understanding what happens when they do go. I think that there's something like this, the fear of not knowing what happens is what scares people more is that they don't know. So I mean, there's a whole, you know.

I think what scares me the most is leaving because I've kind of went through that whole experience where I did think that I had died and everybody else did and the IT wasn't me dying, it was losing everybody else. I think that's what fucks me up. Yeah. Like I don't really give a shit what happens. Like I like I have AI have thoughts on what might happen, but it's just like losing the people of your in your life is what I think is like the scariest.

Well, and we go through that in our lives. Going through No. No, like when it comes to like, people and individuals throughout our lives. So to be losing everybody like that at once would be like, yeah. And then go, yeah. And then, like, be able to know that that happened.

Like that's because that's what kind of happened to me when I like went through that crazy mushroom trip, like where it was just like, not only am I good, but everybody's dead and fucked me up. Like it was just like whoa. I'm better pee. That's not actual what happened,

I said. I don't know if this is real and I'm going to act like I'm going to pee in this middle of this theater and see if anybody stops me, because if they do then I know that I'm just tripping and if they don't I know I'm fucked and nobody stopped me. Dude it's a wild ass. If I don't. Yeah, you want to go to the final? One, Oh yeah, just the final one is Trump launches A probe into Brazil's unfair trade, unfair

trade practices. So last week, President Donald Trump urged Brazilian authorities to end their prosecution of the country's former president, Jair. Olsonaro, Olsonaro, like he's a he Bolsonaro's a fucking they call him the Trump's of the tropics. This like Brazil's prosecuting him. And so Trump's putting on the fucking biggest tariffs if he like of his life on Brazil because they're prosecuting their fucking dictator. Also they had a January 6th type

fucking instrument. That's what got, that's what he got arrested. For exactly dude like fine. Like yeah, at least he got arrested. Like it's like this dude fled to fucking Florida for for a while in exile was like cut out of Chick-fil-A fuck. This dude, people saw him walking around like Whole Foods. And unbelievable, Unbelievable. The United States let's one person put tariffs on any country. If if we're going to if we're going to do stuff like this, then let's Santos out dude, like.

Let's just shout out. If you're going to do, if we're going to go through all of this, let our board George out. That's right, because he needs to get back down to Brazil, run for president as a drag queen. Wins. Do you remember his drag queen name? Oh, I don't remember what was. Me neither, I feel. Really bad. It was something, it was something, it was something good. It was like, it was like, that's spicy. We see you, George. We see you, George, you spicy ass. You're crazy, dude.

So many aliases like. I mean, I'm all I'm here, I'm all for it. I love. It I mean you fucking Mr. Goody. Anybody, anybody who's going to run for public office and claim they live in a big house with a pool while in turn they're just sleeping on their sister's couch. Like, come on, that's fucking

awesome. And. People will back the fuck up because because Mayor Eric Adams over in New York was saying he was living in New York but sleeping on somebody's couch in New Jersey, so it's not making it all cool. No, I know, but I'm just saying he was. Nobody knew who he was. Like yeah, but. If. Anybody shouldn't be locked up at Santos.

For sure, but we're throwing tariffs down on like the sixth biggest economy in the world because Trump doesn't like that they're prosecuting their insurrectionist fucking president. Like it's insanity, dude. Yeah, the we've reached a level of fucking crazy. Yeah, and. We're not even a year in. Nope, not even close to. It that's why they say people like Bondi, Bondi, Bonnie and Patel have already said they're going to stay. They're saying that Bongino has

a choice to make. Is it because like Trump doesn't care what they do? He wants people that are loyal to him. He doesn't want what happened the first time and people to like stop him from doing crazy shit. He wants people that are going to enable his crazy shit. Pam Bondi's enabling his crazy shit. So if he doesn't want people to see the evidence because he's all over it. She did exactly what he wanted. She didn't. He's not. Going to fire.

Her the dictator playbook. You put people who are unqualified into positions of power, not because they're unqualified, but it's because they know they would never, ever, ever be there unless it was for him. So then they're like addicted to the job. It's like Pam Bondi has no place to be the Attorney General of the United States and would only be there if Donald Trump put her there. And so now, so that's how you get people to be loyal to you. It's like literally like how you

get this shit done. And he just didn't know that in the first term. Yeah. Same with Dan Bongino, same with Cash Patel, same with Pete Hegseth. You know it's scary. You got anything else man? Might have to say bitches. Well, like always, we appreciate y'all stopping by listen, like, follow, subscribe, share, whatever. We appreciate you guys. Number 187 murder was the case where there was that case that they gave me. That's such a good song. A a sidebar.

That music video scared the fuck out of me when I was a kid. I saw it at like 1:00 in the morning on MTV and it's just like Snoop Dogg is like in like a black suit with like the devil. And he's also in the hospital bed. And I was like, bro, what the fuck is going on and with them? And like Satan's talking to him like that shit fucked me. It's. Terrible. You should go back and look at it because it's corny now. Oh no, I've gone back and watched it and I'm like, this is dope as fuck.

Like it's corny. But it's great. But yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's. Not but I was like, I get it, I. Get it though. I get it though. Like terrified me just like old Busta Rhymes music videos used to scare me. I think it was the Woo Ha music video. I remember how vividly at my dad's yeah, I was just confused because of the angles and all the weird costumes. I was like, what is going on with this shit? I bet Missy, I bet Missy Elliott

fucked your shit 'cause. It was like weird costume, 'cause it was like what, 929393 Woohawk came out. Woohawk came out When? When did that come out? I remember. Watching you I wanna say 9697. Just looking it up, yeah, I love. That song 96 January 96, so 96. I was January 96. No, it's January. So I was 8. No, I was nine. No, no, I was about to be 9. I was about to turn 9. Look up. March. Right. You were born OK. But that music video fucked me up. Watching it at my dad's house I

was like super confused. More so murder was the case then Buster rhymes with Buster rhymes. I was like what is this? This is the craziest shit I've ever seen in my entire life. I have no idea what's going on. And now he's like popping up and there's fire everywhere. I saw I saw Buster Rhymes down in Santa Monica one time. Fucking tall. Oh, it's huge.

I know I didn't realize that. He's a big, he's a huge fucking DS. Man literally just standing there and Busta Rhymes just next to me and I'm just like did not know you're like a giant bro. Yeah, he's like 6, something like 6-6, something massive, like fucking huge. And he's like, when he's all ripped, you're like, holy shit that this dude would. Be just was. I was just surprised. All right, well y'all like follow, subscribe, be good, be safe as always, go fuck yourselves. Shout out.