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Talk Out of School

Leonie Haimson, Daniel Aliceatalk-out-of-school.simplecast.com
Hosted by Leonie Haimson (Class Size Matters), Dr. Kaliris Salas-Ramirez and Daniel Alicea (Educators of NYC)
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Episodes

The Latest Edu News and A Conversation with Marianne Pizzitola

NYC Retirees - http://nycretirees.org Chalkbeat NY - Zohran Mamdani on education: The Democratic primary winner’s plans for NYC schools Chalkbeat NY - NYC budget deal includes free child care pilot program, boost for preschoolers with disabilities CNN - Supreme Court sides with parents who want to opt their children out of LGBTQ books in schools...

Jun 29, 202554 minEp. 200

Polarized parent-led Community Education Councils in NYC & results of recent elections

NYC Parent Blog, The NYC Mayoral debate and what the candidates said on class size, https://nycpublicschoolparents.blogspot.com/2025/06/the-nyc-mayoral-debate-regarding-class.html NY1, Mayoral winner likely won’t be clear until July 1, https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2025/06/19/nyc-mayoral-primary-winner-likely-won-t-be-clear-until-july-1-thanks-to-ranked-choice-voting NYC Comptroller, Complaints Received Concerning the 2023 Elections of Community and Citywide Education Councils, https...

Jun 23, 20251 hrEp. 199

An education justice roadmap for NYC's next mayor

Matt Gonzales is a longtime organizer, policy expert, and champion for education justice. He’s worked with IntegrateNYC, NY Appleseed, and the NYU Metro Center — and most recently, he’s been supporting the work of NY4RJPS, the New York Coalition for Racially Just Public Schools. Together, they’ve launched a bold education justice roadmap to demand real, community-driven solutions from the next mayor of NYC. He and Kaliris spoke about what’s broken, what’s possible, and who’s leading the fight to...

Jun 16, 20251 hrEp. 198

Trump's aggressive detention & attempt to deport NYC high school student

Parent Coalition for Student Privacy, Parent, advocate letter opposing weakening of Chancellor's regulation A-820 https://studentprivacymatters.org/parent-leaders-elected-officials-advocates-members-of-chancellors-data-privacy-working-group-urge-chancellor-ramos-to-postpone-vote-on-student-privacy-regulation-and-allow-parents-the-rig/ WJFF Radio, New York’s Native American Mascot Ban Under Federal Probe, As Activists and Academics Highlight Harm https://wjffradio.org/new-yorks-native-american-ma...

Jun 03, 20251 hrEp. 197

Religious charter schools; what will be the likely impact if Supreme Court approves?

Daily News, New formula for N.Y. State education aid turns out to be bad news for NYC, https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/05/08/new-formula-for-n-y-state-education-aid-turns-out-to-be-bad-news-for-nyc/ Times Union, Education commissioner says NY may trade away private school regulations, https://www.timesunion.com/education/article/education-commissioner-says-ny-trade-away-private-20310333.php NY Times, New York May Weaken Its Oversight Over Religious Schools, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/01/ny...

May 13, 20251 hrEp. 196

Is Trump Trying to Force Education Into a New Dark Age?

Julian Vasquez Heilig's blog, Cloaking Inequity, https://cloakinginequity.com/ US Dept of Education "Dear Colleague" letter, February 14, 2025, https://www.ed.gov/media/document/dear-colleague-letter-sffa-v-harvard-109506.pdf US Dept of Education requesting districts certify compliance with Title VI, April 3, 2025, https://www.ed.gov/about/news/press-release/ed-requires-k-12-school-districts-certify-compliance-title-vi-and-students-v-harvard-condition-of-receiving-federal-financial-assistance De...

Apr 21, 20251 hrEp. 195

The lawsuit to stop Trump from dismantling the Dept of Education

MPR News, Trump to sign order aiming to close the Education Department, https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/03/20/npr-trump-executive-action-education-department NY Times, Teachers Unions Sue Trump Administration Over Push to Shut Education Dept, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/24/us/trump-education-department-lawsuit.html Education Law Center, Coalition Sues Trump Administration For Dismantling Department of Education, Hurting All Students https://edlawcenter.org/coalition-sues-trump-administrat...

Mar 31, 20251 hrEp. 194

Michael Mulgrew on Mayoral and UFT elections

Leonie interviews Michael Mulgrew, President of the United Federation of Teachers, on the upcoming Mayoral and UFT elections, his record as President and goals if re-elected for a sixth term, as well as the hot button issues of Medicare Advantage, class size, curriculum, and the Trump administration’s assault on our public schools.

Mar 24, 20251 hrEp. 193

Audrey Watters on the dangers of using AI in the classroom

Chancellor Melissa Aviles-Ramos, Feb. 12, 2025, A Message for Families Regarding Non-Local Law Enforcement, https://www.schools.nyc.gov/about-us/messages-for-families AP, Feb. 11, 2025, DOGE cuts $900 million from agency that tracks American students’ academic progress https://apnews.com/article/ies-musk-doge-education-cuts-4461d7bdbe9d55c5a411d8465999b011 Stars and Stripes, Feb. 7, 2025, DODEA adds lessons to ‘do not use’ list sent to schools worldwide https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/20...

Feb 17, 20251 hrEp. 191

Conversation with Greg Faulkner, Panel for Educational Policy chair

Chalkbeat, Some crowded NYC schools want enrollment caps to cut class sizes. Will the city pay for it? https://www.chalkbeat.org/newyork/2025/01/22/overcrowded-schools-seek-enrollment-caps-cut-class-sizes/ Gothamist, Gov. Hochul's NY school cellphone ban gets a warm reception in Albany, https://gothamist.com/news/gov-hochuls-ny-school-cell-phone-ban-gets-a-warm-reception-in-albany Chalkbeat, ‘Everyone is scared’: Deportation fears keep immigrant students home from NYC schools https://www.chalkbe...

Jan 27, 202552 minEp. 190

A Conversation with Paul Egan - Educator, Unionist and former UFT Political Director

Daniel interviews veteran educator, unionist and former political director of the United Federation of Teachers, Paul Egan. We discuss his nearly ten year tenure as the United Federation of Teachers' political director -- from the Bloomberg and Cuomo years to the De Blasio years. Egan dispels the tabloid controversies.

Jan 12, 202554 minEp. 189

The best and worst in education during 2024, and our hopes for 2025

Class Size Matters and Education Law Center, Letter to the Commissioner Rosa about DOE's failure to comply with the class size law. https://classsizematters.org/class-size-matters-education-law-center-letter-to-commissioner-asking-that-she-require-nyc-to-abide-by-class-size-law/ Parent Coalition for Student Privacy, Teenspace sharing sensitive personal data with ad trackers and social media companies. https://studentprivacymatters.org/hearings-and-testimony-on-student-mental-health/...

Jan 08, 20251 hrEp. 188

What we should fear most from Trump's education policies

NYC Parent Blog, on the SHSAT and Chancellors regulations on privacy; https://nycpublicschoolparents.blogspot.com/2024/12/comments-on-shsat-and-chancellors.html Class Size Matters, Presentation to CPAC: Problems with the DOE's failure to implement class size reduction https://classsizematters.org/problems-with-does-implementation-of-class-size-reduction/ Class Size Matters, Video of CPAC presentation, ten minutes in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmQinnJyThk Jon Valant bio https://www.brooking...

Dec 17, 20241 hrEp. 187

Concerns with testing: SHSAT, Regents exams, digital SAT, & more with Akil Bello

CNN, Linda McMahon, Trump’s Education pick, was sued for allegedly enabling sexual abuse of children https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/business/linda-mcmahon-abuse-wwe-trump-education/index.html Advocates for Children, Student Homelessness in New York City, 2023–24. https://advocatesforchildren.org/policy-resource/student-homelessness-data-2024/ Daily News, Push to digitize NYC entrance exam for specialized high schools reignites equity debate, https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/11/23/push-to-digitiz...

Nov 25, 202452 minEp. 186

Trans formative Schools

Trans formative Schools Instagram page https://www.instagram.com/trans.formative.schools/ Trans formative schools website https://www.transformativeschools.org/](https://www.transformativeschools.org/) Simón(e) Sun, PhD website https://simonesun.com/] ( https://simonesun.com/ Peña, R., Florence, J. & Daniels, A. A., (2023) “Trans formative Schools: Transing Education”, VUE (Voices in Urban Education)_ 51(2), 16–20. doi: https://doi.org/10.35240/vue.32 NYSED, Creating a Safe, Supportive, and ...

Nov 22, 20241 hrEp. 185

The potential impact of Project 2025 and the Presidential elections on our schools

Parent Coalition for Student Privacy, Letter opposing the proposed revisions to Chancellors regulation A-820; https://classsizematters.org/serious-concerns-with-does-proposed-weakening-of-their-student-privacy-regulations-how-you-can-help/ on student privacy Briefing on failures of NYC to protect student privacy including potential revisions to Chancellors regulation A-820 co-sponsored by AQE and the Parent Coalition for Student Privacy https://studentprivacymatters.org/safeguarding-your-childs-...

Nov 05, 20241 hrEp. 184

Billionaire-backed bigots on NYC Community Education Councils

The 74, In Private Texts, NY Ed Council Reps, Congressional Candidate Demean LGBTQ Kids, https://www.the74million.org/article/in-private-texts-ny-ed-council-reps-congressional-candidate-demean-lgbtq-kids/ Hedgeclippers, Billionaire-Backed Bigots in the Big Apple http://hedgeclippers.org/billionaire-backed-bigots-in-the-big-apple/ Upper East Side. Extremist Group ‘Moms For Liberty’ Plans UES Event, Drawing Condemnation, https://www.uppereastsite.com/moms-for-liberty-upper-east-side-town-hall/ Pat...

Oct 28, 20241 hrEp. 183

What’s going on with the UFT Welfare Fund?- with Marianne Pizzitola and Ronnie Almonte

Jonathan Halabi - UFT Welfare Fund nest egg – bigger than most nests Ronnie Almonte - The UFT Welfare Fund Widens Gap Between Investments and Benefits Paid—Again Ronnie Almonte - The UFT Welfare Fund is Prioritizing Investments over Dental Benefits The Wire - UFT Mulgrew’s Unity Caucus vows to protect our Welfare Fund from themselves? The Wire - Mulgrew and UFT Unity, Not MLC, Initiated Health Cuts...

Oct 20, 202457 minEp. 182

What the hell is happening with Chicago schools?

NYTimes, David Banks, N.Y.C. Schools Chancellor, Moves Up His Departure, https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/02/nyregion/david-banks-schools-chancellor-resign.html Chalkbeat NY, Departing NYC chancellor David Banks’ next act? Writing a book, https://www.chalkbeat.org/newyork/2024/10/10/departing-schools-chancellor-david-banks-promises-to-write-book/ NY Daily News, Former top NYC Mayor Adams aide Sheena Wright makes cryptic post about ‘stories to tell’ after resignation https://www.nydailynews.com/20...

Oct 14, 20241 hrEp. 181

History of Central Park East

www.cpe1.nyc/fifty - Central Park East I Website https://vimeo.com/13993087 - Why We are Here, short documentary https://highqualityearlylearning.org/pre-k-videos/ - Walking Alongside the Learner, short documentary https://deborahmeier.com/writings/books/ - Deborah Meier's books https://deborahmeier.com/about/ - Biography of Deborah Meier https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/nyregion/anthony-j-alvarado-dead.html - Anthony Alvarado, former superintendent D4 East Harlem NYC Department of Education h...

Oct 11, 20241 hrEp. 180

Roundtable News Recap with NYC Schools PEP Members - Tom Sheppard and Jessamyn Lee

Mayor Eric Adams Indicted by Federal Grand Jury - The City Mayor Eric Adams faces federal indictment hours after naming new schools chancellor - Chalkbeat NY NYC schools Chancellor David Banks announces he’s retiring amid federal investigations - Chalkbeat NY Melissa Aviles-Ramos, NYC’s next schools chancellor, says she’ll have Mayor Adams’ back - Chalkbeat NY...

Sep 29, 202458 minEp. 179

Student privacy concerns with Teenspace and AI

amNYC, Education advocates blast DOE for having ‘no plan’ for smaller class sizes; https://www.amny.com/news/nyc-education-advoactes-doe-plan-class-sizes/ NYC Public School Parents, More evidence in the just-released Mayor's Management Report that DOE has no real class size plan https://nycpublicschoolparents.blogspot.com/2024/09/more-evidence-in-just-released-mayors.html ChalkbeatNY, AI’s new role in NYC schools? Chancellor Banks teases personalized learning and college counseling; https://www....

Sep 23, 20241 hrEp. 178

Controversy, cronyism, and corruption at City Hall and Tweed

The City, Adams Family Values: A Guide to the Kin and Friends New York City’s Mayor Relies On; https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/09/12/eric-adams-family-nypd-connections-fbi-investigation-banks-caban/ AP, A tech company hired a top NYC official’s brother. A private meeting and $1.4M in contracts followed https://apnews.com/article/new-york-mayor-federal-investigation-banks-b2369819ff7ccd4e630899eb08538bae?ref=biztoc.com\ Daily News, Firm doing business with NYC met with Schools Chancellor David Banks...

Sep 16, 20241 hrEp. 177

Problems with NYC's PreK/3K program: funding, excessive data collection & scripted curriculum

NY Post, Parents, educators beg NYC to allow shorter days for tots starting 3-K, pre-K: ‘Cruel and abusive’ https://nypost.com/2024/08/24/us-news/parents-educators-beg-nyc-to-allow-shorter-days-for-tots-starting-3-k-pre-k-cruel-and-abusive/ Daily News, Mayor Adams backs off proposed NYC school cellphone ban for now www.nydailynews.com/2024/08/27/mayor-adams-backs-off-proposed-nyc-school-cellphone-ban-for-now/ NY Post , Adams fails to name trustee to oversee billions in school construction https:...

Sep 03, 20241 hrEp. 175

The Role of Private Equity in Teacher Pensions and Healthcare

Second City Teachers - Jim Vail New AFT Pension Report Calls Out Private Equity Firms’ Labor Practices Fighting The Harmful Impacts Of Private Equity On Our Economy, Public Pension Funds And Healthcare System...

Aug 25, 202458 minEp. 176

Successful campaign to restore education budgets & concerns with special education preK seat shortages

Class Size Matters, Letter to NY State Education Commissioner about lack of detail and lax timetable in NYC School Capital Plan https://classsizematters.org/nycs-updated-school-capital-plan-lax-timetable-no-specifics-for-how-they-will-meet-the-mandate-for-class-size-reduction/ Washington Post, Governor Tim Walz record on Education https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/08/08/harris-vp-walz-education-agriculture/ Minnesota Star Tribune, Minnesota Legislature passes higher ed bill that inclu...

Aug 12, 20241 hrEp. 174

Donald Trump vs Kamala Harris on education & the radical agenda of Project 2025

Daily News, Travel restrictions on NYC students to ease as MTA replaces student MetroCards with OMNY, https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/07/25/nyc-to-replace-student-metrocards-with-omny-expand-time-and-free-trips/?share=rrccxrhn2mecnhstpiwe NY Times, New York Bans Realistic Active Shooter Drills in Schools, https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/24/nyregion/school-lockdown-drills.html?unlocked_article_code=1.900.2RUw.gLW2OkUE-W0T&smid=url-share Class Size Matters letter urging NYSED Commissioner Ros...

Jul 30, 20241 hrEp. 172

Interview with Dr. Akeem Marsh on cellphones & social media

School Cellphone Ban Is Critical for ‘Addicted’ Students, NYC Chancellor Says https://www.edweek.org/technology/school-cellphone-ban-is-critical-for-addicted-students-nyc-chancellor-says/2024/06 NY Students Banned From Using Phones First Hated, Then Loved It https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-17/new-york-schools-that-banned-mobile-phones-see-student-grades-rise NYC planning a school cellphone ban for February, principals say https://www.chalkbeat.org/newyork/2024/07/17/nyc-school-ce...

Jul 26, 20241 hrEp. 171
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