The Jericho Network on Westwood One Okay, the new Iron Maiden double album, The Book of Souls, is out now. And I've got Bruce Dickinson, the legendary Bruce Dickinson, here to tell us all about it. Iron Maiden put out a double album in today's digital music era. How insane is that? Nobody does that anymore. And you should see the packaging for this, the album cover we've seen, but you should see the inner inner workings, the liner notes, the artwork inside.
It's totally great. The album is ridiculously good. You got to go check it out. We're going to talk all about that. Plus Bruce, as of course he is, is going to school all of us on World War One air pilots as he is a pilot. He's going to tell us what it's like to fly one of those old planes as well. Plenty of great Maiden stories, stories about when he cut his hair, stories about wise cousin Chad's band cleatis and the t-shirt that he gave Bruce back in 1988.
Bruce remembered it, the songwriting process, Bruce's relationship with Steve Harris, so many great stories. And plus we're going to talk about Bruce's scare of tongue cancer and larynx cancer, the immortal Bruce Dickinson, the air raid siren himself, so many great stories coming up. Talk is Jericho Baby, talk is Jericho, talk is Jericho Mama, talk is me. Alright, welcome to talk is Jericho, the part of thunder, and rock and roll. The spiel you're under has been broken back with Jericho.
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I am a man What does it all mean? I am a man I am a man I am a man I am a man What does it all mean? I am a man What does it all mean? I am a man It all mean I am a man It all means I am a man It all means I am a man If you be here, it is all right And again, keep me in mind when you guys do some press. So about a month ago, I get a call from Iron Maiden's Press agent, Todd and Nakameena. Shout out to Todd. Thanks for all the help. And also thanks to Dave Shaq.
And thanks for Rob Smallit for helping make all this happen. But Todd said, well, you can get Bruce for a phoneer. He'll be in New York City on August 31, September 1, and I said, well, if he can do a phoneer, then why can't we just do it in person? I mean, if he has to get in the phone, he does interviews while he's in bed. And I can even deal with that. I don't care. And they were like, well, let's see if we can work it out. And I said, I'll come to New York.
I'll fly to New York specifically for Bruce, because person face-to-face in-person interviews are always better than doing them over the phone. Now, I'll do them over the phone if I have to. And we can always have good shows that way. But face-to-face is always better. Plus, it's Bruce Dickinson. I mean, come on, Bruce Dickinson. One of my all-time vocal heroes, one of my favorite vocalists from one of my favorite bands. I mean, I've got Iron Maiden tattooed on my arm for gosh's takes.
So they call me back and said it'll work out and said, how much time do you need? I said, well, I knew if I shot for the stars. I said, well, if I asked for 60, maybe I'll get 45, because they're offering 30. I'm like, well, I usually do 60. That's usually my limit. And they came back and said, fine, you've got an hour with Bruce Dickinson in New York City on Tuesday, September 1. Oh, my gosh. So I did the show in Tallahassee for the WWE ending the Y2J Summer Tour.
Then flew to New York City the next day. I did a podcast that evening, which I'll announce later on. And then the next morning, Tuesday morning, at the undisclosed hotel in New York City, Bruce Dickinson. And I were set to have our chat. So I got a room at the hotel. Went at 10.30 to the room where I was supposed to be to talk to Bruce. And then I had to wait.
And while I was waiting, because Bruce is finishing up another interview in another room, Todd and Dave Shackie showed me the new Maiden record, the packaging on it is insane. I finally got a chance to read all the lyrics, because I had gotten the album the week beforehand. And I had to sign a waiver to get it. That's how old school iron Maiden is. Back in the day, you wouldn't be sent advanced copies of the record.
You would go into a room and you would hear the album once and then write your reviews based on hearing it once. And then when people started to leak albums, and they used to all the MP3s and all that sort of stuff, they stopped doing that completely. So you still send advanced copies out, but for a band like Maiden, they're only sending streams, and you have to sign a waiver to get one.
And that waiver says, if you play this for anybody else, if this leaks in any way, shape or form, every one of the streams that were sending you has a name, has a number on it, has a code on it, and we'll know that it's yours. So, you know, mine is number 27, 28 or whatever. So if this leaks out anywhere, they just have to punch it in. They'll see 27, 20, and then they consume me.
So, needless to say, I've been listening to the new Maiden record for about two weeks now, week and a half, and I haven't let anybody hear it. I've just been crawling about how great it is. My favorite song so far, actually the whole first side is incredible.
When eternity fails, if eternity fails, if eternity should fail, if eternity should fail, I love speed of light, I love the red in the black, the book of souls, when the river runs deep, and then of course the 18-minute epic, the Empire of the Clouds written by Bruce Dickinson, we'll talk all about that upcoming.
So anyways, I got a chance to see the new record, the packaging of it, and Maiden still goes that extra mile to give you the little bit extra as a buyer, especially in this day and age when everybody just downloads it off of iTunes or whatever it may be. Maiden still gives you a reason to want to buy the physical copy, and I saw the LP, and I saw the CD, the CD is just as impressive. There's a book inside, and there's all this great artwork, and all this cool stuff.
Maiden's one of the last bands that, when they put on a new record, there's still a buzz about it. There's still an event. I remember taking the bus downtown, or records on wheels, and Winnipeg, Manitoba, to get somewhere in time, and I'll never forget walking in, and hearing, heaven can wait. And I knew it was the new Maiden, but obviously, it hadn't heard it yet, and I just sat there and listened to it as I was looking at the front cover of somewhere in time.
I just going over all the clues and all the pictures, and the new record has that vibe to it as well, as far as the packaging of it and stuff. So it was an event in 1986 to have a new Maiden record come out, and it's an event now in 2015, to have a new Maiden record come out, and so getting a chance to interview Bruce Dickinson, before the record came out. I mean, all my friends are like, oh my God, I can't believe it, I can't believe it, I can't believe it.
He got Bruce Dickinson, and I'm like, well, it's really cool. And I'm fan blowing out about it now, but at the time, as soon as Bruce comes in, I got a job to do. I got to be a professional, and we've never really met. We've crossed paths a few times, and I'm pretty good friends with Adrian Smith and Iron Maiden, but Bruce never really talked to him much. So he doesn't know me, he doesn't know what kind of a show I have. Probably knows nothing about me.
But as soon as we started talking, he was boom, he was super into it, super excited, super happy. Is you'll hear, he was great during the interview, never learned so much about World War II, to buy planes in my life, as you'll hear. And then as soon as the interview was done, he basically got up and they were onto the next thing. You know, and they tried to wrap me up after 45 minutes, and I was like, sure, just got more questions than when I ended up going another 10 minutes.
So I got my hour, I always get what I want, wah, wah, wah. And he got up and shook my hand. I took a picture with him and he was out the door. So I did get an email later on from the publicist and from Rod saying that Bruce really enjoyed the interview. It was a blast. Bruce Dickinson, one of the greatest rock and roll singers, one of the greatest frontman of all time, and a super interesting guy. So the fact that I got an hour with Bruce, I take great pride in that.
And really thank Iron Maiden and the whole Iron Maiden organization. And I'm telling you right now, the Book of Souls is a tremendous record. It's long, it's 90 minutes long. It takes about three or four listens to start really getting into it. Some of the songs, some of the songs pop right off the bat like Speed of Light. But listen to it, listen to it a lot. It's my favorite Maiden record. So far, basically since the reunion happened, and maybe even before that since seven son of a seven son.
So go out and check that out. Bruce Dickinson is coming up very, very soon. I'm excited. Bruce always good to his fans. And I try and emulate that with my fans, all of you great, great talk is Jericho. Sexy beast listeners. As far as I got an email the other day sent to the podcast, one email from Tina St. Pierre. And she asked if we could wish her husband Ken St. Pierre, Happy Birthday. He's turning 43. He's a big fan of Fuzzy, a big fan of talk is Jericho.
And his birthday is actually today, September 4th. So it's not only Book of Souls, Bruce Dickinson Day, but is also Ken St. Pierre Day. So this show officially is the Ken St. Pierre Presents, talk is Jericho featuring Bruce Dickinson. So there you go, Ken, thanks for helping me present this show. Happy Birthday to you. You got a great wife there. Tina made this happen. And I made it happen to say Happy Birthday to you.
So Happy Birthday and Bruce Dickinson, Book of Souls Day, coming up after this. All right, in the catacombs of the Iron Maiden Hotel here, I have to bring this up with the Air Raid Siren, Bruce Dickinson. OK, best nickname ever. Oh yeah. Yeah, I wasn't made a thought of it. Oh, there's Rod actually. He came up with it? Yeah, he came up with it. Yeah, he attributed it to some inventive fan, but it was him. It's like a publicity trip.
Yeah, and the same thing with, I think, whatever the quote is on the back of the album, the number of the best album, dedicated to all earth rats. Earth rats, hell, dogs, and whatever. And we all went, we all went, we all went, what is this shit? And he goes, oh, it sounds great. He's an earth rat. Yeah, I know. I grew up in Canada, right? So when I read that, I thought, maybe that's some kind of an English term for a head banger. Yeah, and I was right. I was like, no, anyway, never mind.
Earth rats and hell dogs. Earth rats, hell dogs, and whatever. That only lasted for the number of the best record of the Air In Siren. Yeah, we put a stop to that after that. You didn't like it? No, no, no, no. The Air In Siren thing, that sort of carried on, you know? But if I can, no, actually, no, no, no, no. I come to think of it. I know exactly where the Air In Siren came off. It was a complaint letter that somebody saw as at the Rainbow Theater, which is where I made myself a UK debut.
We'd done four or five shows in Italy. And then we came back and we did the Rainbow Theater. So of course, there were lots of people there that had seen Paul, the previous singer. And so obviously, I was the new boy on the block. And somebody wrote a letter saying, ah, the new singer sucks. It's like hearing your favorite songs played through a cement mixer by an Air In Siren. And he went, oh, I like that, the human Air In Siren. That's how he stole that from the letter of complaint.
That's right. The human cement mixer doesn't have the same ring too. Not something else. I was just wondering. Well, and here we are, though, on the eve of Maiden putting out the new record, Book of Souls. And first of all, the audacity you're showing to put out a double record in this day and age, don't you know that you're not supposed to do that anymore? Well, no, I didn't know how they're going to stream it. I mean, I didn't know. I just stream in 18 minutes song.
I think you'd be absolutely right. Break the network or something. I don't know what you do. But it's amazing to, like, we were just actually, as we were waiting for you, looking through some of the packaging of this new record, Book of Souls. And it's incredible. The artwork, the lyrics, you know, the picture of the band, you know, in the Mayan kind of totem pole or whatever it may be.
Still such, in this day and age, when people don't read lyrics and don't even have a lot of physical copies, Maiden's still going the extra mile to put out something extra. Yeah, but I mean, that's the whole point. If you, why bother writing lyrics, if you don't want people to read them? So, yeah, I mean, I guess we're throwbacks or something or some strange, some strange breed of animal that thinks that actually what we do is worth something.
Yeah, but you're from Mill of Fent Millions of Fentions agree with that? Yeah, well, that was great. I mean, it's great. There are people out there that actually do think that things are worth listening to and worth keeping. I think more people actually than some people realize, think that. Right. You know, because I don't think that all humans beings are unnecessarily shallow and defined by what they say on TV about Hollywood wives or whatever it is. You know, that sort of, you know.
But the thing is, you know, listening to the streaming copy which I had to sign a release for, which is, okay, all school. So the thing what Iron Maiden is like, you know, growing up as a fan, I actually learned things from Iron Maiden. You could learn, like, what is a rhyme with H. Maren? Who's Samuel Taylor, Calvage, whatever. So listen to the new record. I can't read the lyrics because I don't have them. Oh, really? Well, because I didn't have them. Now I'm looking at the two of you.
I was devouring them because I'm like, I don't know what these songs are about, but I need to learn because they have such great titles. And you know, they're historical and account or whatever. That's something that Maiden always did. You're doing it on this record as well. You know, kind of, like, like, you know, Empire of the clouds. Obviously it's about some kind of a warship or something. But I don't know, because I can't. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know?
Well, that's actually got quite a big Canadian connection if you're really. Yeah. Well, it's sister ship, the R100 airship, did a transatlantic crossing to Montreal and back. And that was built by a guy called Designed Bygar called Barnes Wallace. And he designed the bouncing bomb that famous in the dam busters that did the German dams and then all that. So yeah. And that in itself is a whole other story that how they built these two ships, one beside the other. One was government funded.
And the other one was privately funded. And it was like a competition between the two to see which one would win the contract to send all these airships around the world. This big armada that was supposed to link the Empire, you know, link, you know, the England with Australia and Canada and this big sort of conveyor belt of the ship's car. Yeah, the Commonwealth, yeah, all that stuff.
And so the R100, which is the privately built one, built by Vickers, flew first and flew across the Atlantic and went, there you go. And they said, well, you can't win the contract yet because we've got to let the government one, which was bigger. And the reason it was bigger was because everything on it was heavier and took longer. And, you know, so the R101 was the one that took off for India before it was adequately tested, before it was structurally sound. What is it like a plane?
Is it just a big giant ship? John Aschish, but like, is it a Zeppelin? Think Hindenburg. Okay, so you're looking more of a... Think Hindenburg, but it was bigger than the Hindenburg. I think, and it was so big in fact, that you could put the Titanic inside it. That's one of the lyrics, yeah. Yeah, and you could fit the Titanic inside it from the top of the funnel to the bottom of the keels. This thing is huge. It's exploding over your head.
Just chugging over your head about 100 bars an hour, you know. And it had, you know, 50, 54, 55 people on board it, I think. 56 was it? Anyway, there's 48 people survived. I died when it finally went down. And it was a crash, which, although it's not many people remember it now, at the time, it was a combination of... If you can imagine the challenger accident, you know, the Titanic and the Concorde crash and all rolled into one. It was on that scale.
And the bodies when they came back to England were given a state funeral, gun carriages, procession. They were laid in state in Parliament for three days, which only happens to kings and queens. These weren't like all important people. These were just all the normal guys that were on the thing. But there was royalty on board. There was two ministers from the government were on board. They're all killed in it. 1930. 1930. So, you know, it's a quite a few years before the Hindenburg.
But of course, this thing crashed in the middle of the night in a wood in Bovet and in all the France in a terrific storm. And when it crashed, nobody saw it. Or this was a wreckage afterwards, you know, which... I've got the pocket watch of one of the survivors. Really? Yeah. And a couple of artifacts from the airship itself that didn't work on the airship. They obviously had duplicate sets of crockery and cutlery and all this kind of stuff.
And I'm guessing that I've got a tanker, which is embossed around the top welcome aboard from the airship crew from 1930. So, leather tanker with the airship embossed on the outside with the registration of it. It's very cool. I went to an auction of airship memorabilia and I came back with the pocket watch with something I really had my eye on this piece. I think I'm going to go after it. Did you have to go to an auction to do it? Oh, yeah, yeah. Was anybody else bidding for it as well?
Oh, God, yeah. Oh, yeah. I've mastered stuff already. No, no. I was just like, no, I was determined to do that. So, there's a lot of stuff there from the graph set plan and the Hindenburg and sets of crockery which were left at home when it went on its voyages, the alternate sets. So, they were all there. You could buy yourself a T-service from the Hindenburg, but those are going for kind of stupid money. Do you collect a lot of stuff like that? No, not a lot. Just that one. Not a lot.
I specifically was interested in getting some things about English, English airships. And of course, everybody, everybody's all about the Germans. There's a piece of a zeppelin that crashed in the first world war. It's like, yeah, okay. We know all that, but actually we have this huge industry that I found that absolutely fascinating. When I was a kid, I used to make a big plastic model of the R101. So, this is something you've been interested in your whole life? Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Because flying is a passion of yours. Yeah. And airships and the whole concept of being a pilot and all this sort of thing. Yeah. When you were a kid, did you want to be like for me, when I was a kid, I wanted to be a wrestler in a rock and roll band. And everyone was like, I'll never do either one of those things. When you were a kid, did you want to be in a rock and roll band to be a pilot? No, I wanted to be a pilot. No, when I was a... Well, it depends what age you're just...
Like, five or six years old. Musicians are the last thing on my mind. I wanted to be either a steam train driver or a fighter pilot or an astronaut. I think astronaut goes for all of us. Yeah, you know. But a fighter pilot, so there have to be a war for that to happen. No, you can get trained up as a fighter pilot. I mean, I'm not sure whether fighter pilots really quite likely are dear of wars. Yeah. You know, it means they get shot at and might die, you know.
But don't you fly some of those like biplane old school World War II planes as well? Yeah, yeah. I've got a... Actually, I'm a bit older than the replica. The I fly is a replica of a World War I airplane. So they're even more primitive in the way that they're on the other side. It is exactly... The one that I fly is a Focca DR1 triplane. So it is the three plane... the triplane type that... that Von Richtoff and Flew, you know, at a point in his career. But it's the one that everybody remembers.
But he actually flew many different types of airplanes. So when you fly something like that, I mean, if you had any ever had any close calls, I mean, it seems like it wouldn't be very stable to be able to hold this. Oh, it's nice. It's a World War I biplane. No, it's not stable at all. It's a fighter. It's designed to be unstable, which is why it's a brilliant dog fighter. Because all you have to do is blow on it. Or does it change direction? Yeah. Yeah. So it's fantastically unstable.
So you have to fly it constantly. There's no water pilot. There's no electrical system on it. There's nothing. You've got a magnetic compass. And that's it, really? Is it like driving a car without automatic transmission? Are you really having to hold on to the thing? No, it's very the controls are relatively light, but they're very... It doesn't handle like a modern aircraft. Which, a modern aircraft, a lot of the weird characteristics have been taken out. They've been designed out.
So the thing is quite controllable and docile. If it gets disturbed, it comes back to an uneven keel. It's fairly stable. This was never designed to be like that. And they were never designed to last very long. It was never envisaged that these aircraft would last longer than, you know, like six months or something. Because they were going to get shot down. Eventually, right? Yeah. So hence they were made out of wood. And you could kind of lash them up back together and off you go.
The airfoils that they were using for the wings. Again, quite primitive in some respects. And that meant that when you fly behind another aircraft in one of these things, you get like disturbed air or something else like that, the thing will stop flying. You can end up on your side in a heartbeat in one of these things and sort of wrestling the thing back to upright. And you've got to use everything. You're putting a great big boot full of rudder in there and all kinds of stuff to get it back.
Which with a modern aircraft, they are more thusile. And on the ground, it's completely unpredictable. Even just landing it, you mean? These aircraft were never designed to land on a whole concept that we have of a runway. It didn't exist. So you landed in a field. And whichever way the wind was blowing, you landed straight into wind. So there was no necessity to have a brakes. They didn't have brakes. You landed on grass, they had a tail skid. And that was it.
And then they had a whole posse of guys would come running out to meet you and grab hold of the wings of the airplane. So it didn't sort of flip around and do a 180 on you. Oh really? It was very light then. It's not so much that it was light. But it was, you have no directional control on it. Once the tail actually sinks down onto the ground, particularly on a triplane. Because you've got such these three, it's like flying behind a big Venetian blind.
So what it does is it blanks the airflow from the propeller over the tail. And at that point, you have no control. I mean, you don't have any brakes. You don't have any wheel at the back to steer it with. So if there's a breath of wind from the side and the thing starts to wiggle, because it's so unstable, it'll just swap ends. You do one 80 on yourself. And if you fly a triplane, you just better get used to sometimes ending up facing the wrong way around. Because it is going to happen on you.
Well, you're very knowledgeable about this. And we're talking about the R101. You built these models when you were a kid. What finally inspired you to write a song about it 35 years into your maiden career? I mean, this is tailor-made for a maiden song. Yeah, I guess the thing was that I was originally, I had these bits. Okay, I'll get back to it. The song was written on piano. Yeah. And I didn't have a piano. And then about two or three years ago, I won a piano in a raffle.
And so I go back and I take this piano back. I'm taking out of his cardboard box and the electric piano with prayer speakers on it. And so I started mucking around on it. And the first thing you do is you get it's very easy to come up with atmospheric things that suggest a little melody or something. So what I thought these little melody things were going to turn into was, you know, something I was going to write something about the first world war. It would start off a very atmospheric morning.
And then something horrific would happen when they took off. But that didn't happen as a song. Death or glory happened instead with Adrian. And so I thought, hmm, okay, well, so what do I do with all these little pieces? And I'm sat there and I've got my kind of, you know, little writing room and where I sit and tinkle on the piano and stuff. And behind me in the kind of like bookcase and stuff, I'm looking at I've got this big model of an airship.
And I've got the tanker and I've got a book about the crash and I'm thinking, I'm just right. Why do you do the I-101 story? And I went, that's a big project. And I went, well, you know, you've got plenty of time. So that's how the idea started. And then it was a question of planning at that point then because you said, well, okay, where are we going to start? I said, well, I've got this bit about, you know, the morning sun rise red before the blue. Let's start a dawn on the day it crashed.
Let's do the last day. And through the last day, we tell the story of the whole thing. So we can just flash back a little bit to some of the problems in telling the story on the last day. And I thought, well, that's okay. Let's get started then. So we started writing some more words. And I basically just, I joined two book titles together. It was the opening two lines of the song because a book called Empower of the Clouds, which is not about the airship.
It's about, it's about the British aviation industry, you know, after the Second World War. And how we basically gave it away, you know, to the rest of the world, you know, and screwed up. But I thought, Empower of the Clouds, that's a, I was either going to call it that or the other book was called To Ride the Storm, which is actually an accident investigation into the R101. And that was a source material of a lot of the facts that I got involved with. So I thought, To Ride the Storm, okay.
But Empower of the Clouds, that sounds better to me. And it sounds epic. And it sounds epic. And it's ironic as well because it's exactly what it was supposed to be. It was supposed to be an empire in the clouds of the clouds, you know, the British Empire. And it's hugely powerful airships going around, a symbol of national virility and everything. So I just joined the two book titles together. And the opening line was To Ride the Storm to an Empower of the Clouds.
So I thought, okay, so now, so that's the story you're going to tell. You're going to tell the story of To Ride the Storm to an Empower of the Clouds off we go. So the narrative, wrote the narrative bits, and then realized, okay, well, we're going to have a bit where the airship leaves the mast and takes off. And then it's going to, then we're going to have the exciting bit, and then it's going to go into a storm.
And it's going to be chucked around in the storm, and we're going to write a storm bit. And then we're going to have the awful, the ending of it, the crash, the crash at the end. And then somewhere in the middle of all this, I came up with this little bit, which is actually the intro, the intro to the song actually came up, I was about halfway through writing it. And so the, the beginning, the little melody, but I'm at the beginning.
And I thought I could, that looks great because that links so many pieces together. I can sort of reprise it at the end. And they're actually like, well, you know what, I've got kind of a little overture thing going here at the beginning because I can, I've got so many little pieces now. I can actually condense them all into a nice little instrumental section at the beginning in which you sort of state all the bits that are going to happen.
Later on, it kind of becomes an almost sort of little conchetto or whatever it is. I don't know, I'm some funny, yes, some funny thing, whatever that is. Yeah, I don't know exactly. You know, so I went, hey, this is really cool. I know this is getting, this is getting excited. I'm getting excited about this now, you know. Let's get back to Bruce Dickinson. When you're writing, you type what piano, do you have a guitar as well?
Are you writing riffs and melody lines? No, no, no, no, it's all, all on, I write the words down. So I know what the melody wants to be in my head. In the case of Empire, then the piano line itself is itself a melody. Yeah, sure. So that kind of suggests the piano line of the vocal line of the same. They're more or less the same, more or less the same.
And in fact, it's becoming a bit of an issue because I've started writing more stuff on piano and it's now getting really hard to write the words. Because you sit there and you go, oh, it's a really nice, nice, I love that melody. It's great, isn't it? You think, well, what are you going to sing? I'll be ashamed to spoil it. I don't want to get that involved. So do you take it to the band and say, here's what I've got and then they kind of put together their pieces in there?
Because I'm assuming if it's just a Dickinson song as Empire is, that you're writing the entire thing. So you're not playing guitar though. No, I play piano. So you just tell them this is how it goes. So I don't really know. So all the bits that the none of the bits on Empire were ever written with a guitar in mind. Everything was written for fiddles or burrans or horns or strings or cellos or whatever.
Knowing full well that it was going to be played by guitars, but I didn't have those guitar in mind when I wrote it. But I realized clearly, obviously it was really played by guitars. So the little kind of the mad little Irish-G-Baddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle. That's an Irish gig, that's fiddle, you know, and a boron, which is an Irish.
What's it called? A boron. I think it's spelled BH-O-D-R-A-N of Bodran, but a bit of a boron. And if you ever go to a folk club and you see them, it's like a big tambourine, but without the bells on it. And they use a beta. So you get these great B-Baddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle Daddle.
It is fantastic rhythms on it. And that's that rhythm, but get Nick to play that. And he understood exactly what I was talking about when I said this was like a kind of thing for a boron. Oh, gotcha. And he was off. So he actually was, Nick was really key to the whole thing. Because he had to link, but possibly all the atmospheres that were involved and hold it all together. So he was fantastic, actually. And he was really excited about it.
Because I'd play him the bits. I'd add a new bit sometimes. And then I'd start arranging things. And I'd say, well, we got to listen to this. And this happened. He goes, oh, this is really good. He said, carry on. And Steve was the same thing. And so I played Steve the whole lot in sequence. I'd probably list two pages of A4 of arrangement. And then this happens. Then that, then that, then this bit.
And then there's this bit and this. And then it goes to there. And then he went, yeah, don't change your thing. That's it. I went, wow, okay. That's great. And then off we go. And then of course, I had to play piano on the damn thing, which was, I mean, I am, you know, the one finger, rack man enough. And even that's just a little finger. You used the piano that you wanted in the raffle. Yeah. And I tell you what, I wish I did because it, I think it had a MIDI. That would have had a MIDI out.
The, we used a MIDI keyboard to go do it, which is a horrible thing. It was like some dreadful little, Bontempe kids organ thing with absolutely no feel whatsoever. And, but, you know, we could get a take out of it that way because the, you know, my piano skills strictly limited, you know,
L plates on, you know, provisional, provisional driver, you know, training wheels. And that way, at least if I, you know, if I screwed up a couple of notes, we could go into MIDI and just edit them and put them in the right place because otherwise we'd have been there until Christmas trying to get me to do it, take the whole song. Because the band has to play effectively to the piano for the first three or four minutes of that tune.
It's something we've never done before. Never. Yes. First time I can think of a piano being on any MIDI song like that. Yeah. Yeah. There's like the lead instrument. Right. And so, yeah, and, yeah, I mean, I don't suppose we'll ever play it live. In fact, I'm almost 100% certain we won't play it live. You'd be like Elton John with the piano, the motor for singing.
God forbid. No, you know, you know, Elton Kauffon. Yeah. Maybe little furry rabbit going across the top of him being the big mallet. Try to hit it, you know. Like a mall. Yeah. He's like, yeah, yeah. When you mentioned before, you played this whole thing for Steve. Is he kind of like the guy that you need to get the approval from to be like, let's do it? Yeah. I mean, in general terms, yeah. So we'd go in a place to up.
I mean, there's going to be somebody who is out, you know, an ultimate arbiter of life, you know, as everything. And it's Steve basically, you know, it must be kind of cool when it gives you the thumbs up. You're like, oh, right. No, it's all right. No, it's good. I mean, but the thing is, is that by the same token, you know, if he comes along with an idea and everybody goes, I'm not sure about that. You know, you can veto. It's not so much a veto thing. It's not it's not as childish as that.
I mean, I know. Well, we are kind of with it. We're depressingly so sometimes. But I say I kind of prefer it that way. Back different back within the 80s, when you're 20s. Oh, God, yes, full of piss and vinegar. Yeah. I was going to ask you too, as a singer, I'm listening to the Red and the Black, which is a great song off the new record, Book of Souls. And the melody line, it's a Steve song. And the melody line is very busy at parts.
It's hard sometimes to sing the lyrics because there's a lot of yeah, no, no, absolutely no, he drives me nuts. But what he does that. I know why he does it now. I could never figure out why he did it, why he wrote words like that. And it's because he he he follows the the follows the meter of the song. Slavisly. Absolutely. Slavisly. So me as a singer, you know, I'll say in. Okay, so the song's doing that. So we don't need that syllable, that's a little bit.
We can kind of just like wave through it, you know. But no, he's like, no, no, no, he's like. Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. And he said, well, why can't he? Why can't he go? Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. Because it doesn't go like that. Yeah, because I wonder sometimes if you're talking about like the I even had to write it. The Kuwait's had a rack. He was born of Caladan. He must take the Goms Jabar.
Yeah. When you read and lyrics, and they're like, how does this singer am I supposed to relate to this to sing it? It's like, are you serious? I mean, you know, I know Gettie Lee has it sometimes with the Neil Purit lyrics. What the hell is this? Yeah, what the hell is this? Yeah. Yeah, you do. I'm gotten I'm gotten get used to it. But he's getting better actually. I mean, there's some great stuff. I mean, tears of a clown. He's got some great words on it.
Absolutely. You know, it's almost is that does that have anything to do with Robin Williams? Yeah, it is. It's about Robin Williams. Yeah, I didn't realize that I sang the song obviously, and I said, he's kind of cool. What's this? What's this one about Steve? And he went, Robin Williams. I went, oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, you can see that tears of a clown. I kind of was wondering that right off the bat.
Yeah. I mean, we were kind of laughing earlier about, you know, in the first wave of maiden's giant huge popularity in the 80s and then now, maiden, bigger than ever in 2015. You mentioned the relationships are different because you're older. How is the relationship with Steve and Bruce in 2015 in comparison to 1988 or 1985? It's great. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty good. I mean, I just sat in last night and I got diagnosed
with all this stuff, you know, and we were chatting on the phone. He said, I'm okay, you know, and he said, oh, I'm going to send you a present. I went, oh, that's nice. You know, and he said, you're trampling. He said, you're not watching a lot of daytime TV at the moment. He said, give yourself a little exercise. I think it was like, I once went out with a side story. It's lovely. It's very sweet. And the kids would come in and go,
Dad, why do you only sell trampoline in front of the TV? I said, just Steve, just send me it. So it makes me feel better. He's jumping up down. I was supposed to, I was to football match, you know, and I'm like, what you're jumping up down the trampoline, you know, and I thought it's really, it's really dangerous. I'm going to fall off this and kill myself in a minute. Part of the new stage show, Bruce is doing flips on the trampoline while singing. Oh, funny,
man. Yeah. Yeah. I once went out for a beer with years ago, back in the back in the 80s, and we were in Amsterdam doing a record. And for some reason, the boss of the Amsterdam chapter of the Hell's Angels was hanging out. It was very nice guy because we didn't know how to handle it. We didn't want to know about whatever he got up to, but he had terrible girlfriend problems. So we went out once for a guy thing, you know, and we're
getting to all these issues and stuff. And then he got around to saying, you know, how great it was, you know, with the chapter because they used to help all the other Hell's Angels and he's definitely going to say, one of my guys, he goes, he said, he said, oh, it was just so cool. He said, because he was, he had terminal cancer and he was dying. And he said, and he said, and we all clupped together and we got him a dishwasher. And I went,
okay. And he said, oh, I said, the guy was in tears. He said, he said, I've never had a dishwasher before in my life. And it was just this bizarre moment. What do you do? You buy somebody who's dying of cancer? How about dishwasher? You know, it's perfect. You can have clean dishes, damn it. You know, you know, you know, I mean, I just, I just, I
just, it's just a bizarre aside. I thought, is this my dishwasher moment? You know, I mean, well, when you're talking about trampoline and kind of relaffing, but when you're preparing for, for a tour, it's been a few years. And talking about the melody lines that you're singing in the new record, it hasn't changed. It's still the classic air raid science. It's full on air. It's all full on air. And you still sound great. You can hit all those
notes and you pick your spots for the really crazy screams, no, the beats, et cetera. But you sound great. How do you prepare for a tour knowing the task ahead of you, not just singing these melody lines, new ones, ones that you sang when you were 25 and also putting on the show that you put on as a front man. Yeah. Well, you have to give yourself plenty
of plenty of lead in time, really. I mean, when you're in, you know, two, three weeks into a tour, you go into sort of tour mode, your voice just becomes kind of fairly bomb proof, you know, it's just used to doing it every day or every other day or whatever we do it. And, Ernie, you can take a break of, you know, three, four weeks and come right back.
And it'll be right back. It's like, oh, nothing really. Nothing much changes. And you take a break of a few more months and you think, I'm going to need a couple of weeks to get back into this. Depending on what you've been doing in between, I mean, if you've been singing in an album or stuff like that, then yeah, great. Shouldn't be an issue. But obviously
I've been off from, you know, finishing the album November till November. It's going to be a year and a half since I've done any real, really sort of big, big old belting on the voice. And of course, a lot has happened in between, you know, the healthy and, you know,
taking lumps out of my, the space in my throat. So at the moment, while things are still returning to normal, I mean, things are still pretty normal, you know, but, but in terms of getting that, that, that, that last bit of healing done on the inside, that's, you know, another, I've got another two, three months, you know, waiting time before I start, start really starting to get away with it. I don't know. You had, you had some, some cancer
issues in your tongue and in your throat. Yeah. And that's been taking care of it. You're still healing from the radiation treatment. Yeah. You know, because the, I had a golf ball, basically, at my tongue. It was about your tongue. Yeah. In the base of my tongue, which goes all the way back there. So basically, the, the effectively, almost the head of this sure microphone was growing. Maybe that's what
it was. Maybe you saw the microphone. I mean, it was growing a microphone. I had one, I had one, one back here and then another one in the lymph node next door, which is two and a half centimeters. And so they got rid of that with chemo and radiation at the same time, which finished in, finished in March. And I'm still, the radiation still cooks you for another three months. So March, April, May, so, I then I had the scan, which gave me
your clear, which is great. And then you, you really start to undo the, the damage that was, that was done, you know, so crazy stuff that you don't really think about in normal life like your saliva has been pretty much wiped out. The glands have been pretty much wiped out, but they will recover. And so minor, you know, like I've got loads more now than I did like two months ago. Mucous membranes just quit, they quit. So you're not generating
any mucus to lubricate the soft tissues here. So it is like being in the desert 24, seven. So you can't really sing in that state. Right. I'm singing to keep lubricated is absolutely important. Absolutely. So lubricated as opposed to hydrated, because you think water that you'd be in the face, that's great. But you need to let those cells physically regenerate and start working again. And there's just nothing you can do to hurry up that process. It's going
to take as long as it takes. But given, I mean, I've been really good with the recovery so far. The last, I mean, a checkup last last week, you know, I have a checkup every month. And they have a look with a scope and a doctor, he goes, yeah, I should, I'm looking really, really good. He says, healing up fantastically. He says, there's a few
little bits of swelling there that's just starting to, you know, disappear now. And so even now, you know, you know, three, four months out, there's still residual swelling in that that will take time and time and time to go away. Having said that, I'm chatting away and yelling. And the great news is that the larynx is completely unaffected. It was never affected. It was never part of it. It was never zapped by the radiation. So that's
great. So all the notes are still there. So you've practiced and done a few, I have been in the kitchen. I had a good gal. I was in there. Can I do a trip up? Yeah. Can we do the opening song? Yeah, let's do the opening song, you know, for the new song and the album and everything. And you know, you do notice there's a few bits that go, oh, that's a bit weird. It sounds a bit strange and a bit scratchy and, but all the power, all the power is there.
And because that again, that's nothing to do with it. And all the high notes are there. It's just some of the ones in between. And I think it's a question. I think it's almost a question of, it's like being an athlete and you've had, let's say you were sprinting or something else like that. And you've had some real major tendon damage and they fix it all up and you can walk around and you can, you know, do stuff and people say, oh,
you look fine, you look great. Yeah. So you're going to run the 100 meters. They were, it's going to take a little while. Yeah. We got to really work up to that, you know, because it's not quite that simple, you know, even though I can take the test stairs to at a time and I can, I can run for a bus. It's a little bit different when you're trying to do a nine and a half second 100 meter dash. Yes. Or a two hour iron maiden show singing.
Exactly. Exactly. Is there a song, a song in the set that you have to play? Like a trooper of that's you see it and you go, it's not hard to sing, but it's a little bit of a challenge. Oh, they usually is one in every show. And actually, it's not so much the song, it's where it is located in the set, in the set. So, you know, dependent upon
where it's located, you know, run to the hills can be, you know, pain to the neck. But and the same thing with, you know, hallowed sometimes, ACES High was always like the last tour. It was the first encore. So no pressure there then. You come back in a big thing, fan fair, you know, players, everything else. And you've, you've got to hit all these notes. And of course, you've already been going for an hour and hour and 40 minutes or something.
So ACES High was always the, the take a big deep breath and like, okay, relax, relax, come on. How was it when you open with that song? In the day, that was all, that was the whole thing opening song. Yeah, well, sometimes opening with a song like that, you know, you, you get it out of the way early. Yeah, okay. You know, so I'm also psychologically estranged because the audience often, they're not listening that hard because they're
a bit overwhelmed. I'm so excited to see you. By the time you screwed it up, they've missed it, you know, you're under the next one already. You're, you guys are famous for doing these long marathon worldwide tours. You got one coming up and still playing new countries. I just read something I think it's, I don't know, El Salvador or someplace. Yeah. El Salvador, yeah. That's, that's amazing to me. There's still places you haven't
played. No, there's plenty, there's loads actually. There's loads. I mean, I mean, the band have played in South Africa before, but I haven't. So I mean, there's loads of places that have played in South Africa. Yeah. I've never done Cape Town and Joe Book before. I mean, and for example, China, we've, none of us have been to China before. So that's good. I'm really, really looking forward to go to China. It's interesting. You'll appreciate I was there
a few years ago to do a show and in Shanghai and the architecture. You seem like the type of guy that would be impressed by the amazing architecture. It seems like each building that the guy who ever made it is like, okay, I'm going to outdo this building. I'm going to do this building. It's a beautiful city. It's something you can just actually look and see like, this is great. You know, and that's one of the things that's cool about going around
the world, the different cultures and the different things that you see. And I remember the, the, the, the main behind the Iron Curtain, when you guys went to Russia or Poland. That's that first time back in 84 or whatever it was. That's the one. It's still an amazing documentation of how things were back in those years. Yeah. Now it's a great documentary that. Yeah, it really was. I remember watching as a kid. When you're a kid, you watch it
over and over and over and probably quote the whole damn thing. Ironman at the Polish wedding. Yeah. No, that's it. No, there's great moments in time. You know, it's just a little, little fossilized cracking moments, classic stuff. Yeah. When you think about like all the places you've been, what country stand up for you is having interesting experiences? Well, Brazil and Brazil and Chile, I think, you know, but funnily enough, Uruguay. Uruguay. Yeah, what
is Uruguay? And that was an interesting experience because we played, I love railways and things and trains and stuff. And the gig was a train station. And what they'd done was they'd had, they obviously had two or three different, like, main stations in Uruguay. And they'd, one day just, this had like 16 tracks. And it was reminiscent of an English train station from the 1950s. Terminus, you know, there were 16 tracks or with the buffers. And they'd set up
the stage over the tracks. So you were facing out looking down the train shed, looking down the line. But there were no trains. Well, there were, but they were sitting there, they were kind of moth-bored and their own old steam engines. And further up the line, like about two miles up the line, then they trains were actually operating from another station. But they just kind of cut this train station off and said, I shut now, that's it. And it's kind of fossilized it,
you know. And it was weird. It was like walking through a film set, you know, of 1950s. And when you did the show, the track numbers were just about, you know, three or four feet above your head. And the audience was standing on the tracks. And it was like, okay, you know, it's kind of weird, but cool. And then I was wandering around during the daytime, you know, having a poke-round, these old steam engines and things, you know. And a lot of them were German
from the Second World War. We did a lot of trade with Uruguay. And there was a famous ship sunk in the River Plate, the roughs bay, I think it was, which a German battleship, which was cornered there. And the skipper, rather than go out and basically kind of commit suicide with his ship, decided to scuttle the ship. So it sold all the sailors to go, for sure. And he sank the ship in the middle of the River Plate. And that was it, it was big standoff. And of course, Uruguay was
neutral. So all these 2000, however many there were German sailors, went ashore and stayed there for the rest of the war. It had a great time, you know. Lots of little Uruguay, German Uruguay and little babies. And so we're doing this gig there. And I'm suddenly sat there and realizing that the railway that I'm looking at, no wonder it looks English, because it was all built by Welshman, who were employed. And there's this big plaque on the wall saying, you know, all these people
who built it and they're all from Cardiff and Swansea, why aren't you? And outside was a T-shop. So I go into the T-shop and I swear to God, this was a Bavarian T-shop in the middle of Uruguay. And on the wall was pictures, big black and whites of the sailors from Graf's Bay and the Graf Zeppelin that used to stop in Uruguay on the way over. Right. There's these pictures of airships and Zeppelin's and things like that. I'm thinking, what an incredible experience. What
are, this is surreal, you know, just to see this. All these little things fossilized frozen in time. You know, so that was one of my favorites South American moments. And the other one was, you know, Brazil, you know, Rock and Rio, obviously, big rock and roll moment. But the other one was the actual, the capital of Brazil, Brazil, which looks like that there's all this, now forget the name of the architect, but really famous architect. And he put in all these futuristic buildings in the
middle of Pizzilia. And you will imagine that you're actually on the set of Star Trek. Just so cool. And yeah, so South America, it's a real, real interesting place. It's amazing you get a chance to go around the world and see all these things. And also the worldwide fan base of Iron Maiden is incredible. We talked to early about how the band is bigger now than ever. What is it about Iron Maiden that appeals to so many people everywhere in the world?
Well, well, first, I think one of the things is that we are properly unique. The other one is that we are not just unique, but also I think we're pretty authentic. You know, we haven't sold out or
done crass commercial things. And, you know, and anything we have done, like, you know, the, the beer trooper and things like that, we've done with some style and we've done, we've done it well, you know, and we've done stuff that's appropriate to our, you know, identity, you know, not just done stuff just to be, yeah, crass and, you know, make loads of money and be a benchmark, you know. It's real, like you said, it's unique and it's real. A few final questions. It's funny,
in about 2008, I used to have really long hair, I cut it. And people were so outraged, you've got to grow your hair back. How can you be Chris Jericho without long hair? And I was always thinking more Bruce Dickinson cut his hair. Did you get the same reaction when you first cut it from the rockers? Like, how can you be a Bruce Dickinson? Yeah, they get over it. You know, and actually, what I did discover that the store detectives didn't follow me around in supermarkets anymore.
You didn't get search going through security at the airport either way. Because you had the classic long hair of the 80s, super long bangs. Oh, yeah. No, absolutely, absolutely. I mean, I got, I used to get, I used to get, I was, I remember trying to leave Canada once, Niko got blood poisoning and is, in his arm from blisters that had gone, you know, goopy, you know, playing drums. And we had to take a whole week off. I mean, Montreal and Winner. And we thought Florida sounds
nice. So we, we were going to high-tell it out. And I went through and I thought, I'd go through, I'd go through security and everything like, you know, really early. And this isn't the early 80s somewhere. And I've got this big like fur, I've got this like fur coat and a long hair, like, 26 years old or something, you know. And I've got a business class ticket and a huge carry-on bag. And this guy just takes everything apart, just takes the whole thing apart. I'm sitting
there and they go, I don't take drugs. So I've got nothing to hide. So I'm buying, you know, and he's got, he's got talcum powder and he's sniffing it. I'm thinking, I'm going to give you a headache, you know, I mean, and he goes, and finally right at the bottom of the bag, this kid, so some kid had given me like a, a, a, a, a little studded wristband. And I said, thanks for money, but in the bag, forgotten about it. He pulled it out and it's really small and it's got completely flattened studs.
They're not even, they're not spiking any way, shape or form. They're flattest. Yeah. And he says, watch this. I said, studded wristband. He goes, this is an offensive weapon. I went, you are kidding me, aren't you? Yeah, I said, no, you're not kidding me. I said, okay. I said, well, I said, I can't argue with you. I said, because if you say it is, then it must be so. Didn't even know I had in my bag to be honest with you. I said, I said, throw it away. I don't mind. He said, I can't do that.
So there's a very serious offense. I went, okay. All right then. Who's that? It's going to be. Okay. So now I am. I can't possibly tell you. It's outside my jurisdiction. Right. Okay. So, so somebody doesn't like my face today. So anyway, up comes the mounting. Proper, you know, red, red, cold hat. Dudley do right. The whole thing, you know. And I'm like, I'm like, okay. So I said, please see that. I've seen you know, is that Bob Obama, he goes up. Yeah. So he's inspecting it. Like, yeah,
I see the studs. Yeah, see the problem. Yeah. So they take me away. So I sit down. They takes me into a little side room, you know. And I fill out a prisoner's arrangement form. You know, well, and so I'm sitting there and I'm looking at the thing I think my flight goes in about half an hour. Okay. I said, okay. I said, so, um, right. So we've got the wristband. And you probably know that, you know, you can buy these things on Yonge Street with like six inch spikes coming out of them.
Everything else, you know, but regardless of that, he said empty pockets. Okay. And I just got my pdms. Uh-huh. Right. So I had two $100 bills. And he goes, where'd you get these? I said, I got them from my two manager who gives them to me every week is my pdms. And he goes, right. And he phones the serial numbers through of the bills. I come back and he goes, yes, that's okay. Then, you know, okay. I said, so here I am. I filled out your form. You've got the wristband.
Now what happens? He goes, I said, this is a matter of the local police. He said, so that's how my jurisdiction. I went, uh-huh. I'm getting the picture now. I said, I said, do you have a gamble? And he said, I don't know what you mean, sir. I said, are you a betting man? I said, because I'm willing to bet that at one minute past half past when my flight has gone, the local police were walking through that door. And at one minute past thing, the local police walked in, dressed
slightly more drab. They were wearing what, you know, looked like a couple of grow bags, you know, and and stuff. Didn't have the red, the red tunic and the hat and everything. And they came in and they were very sweet and they and they too inspected the wristband and looked at it and felt and they they discussed the flattened nature of the studs and how it didn't look like you could do much harm with that. And they said, well, maybe we should just confiscate it. And uh and I said,
thanks very much. I said, um, and he said, yep, you're free to go. I went, thank you very much, may I have another. So, so I left and I thought the next flight is in four hours. And I'm just sat there, me and a water cooler for four hours. Uh, all because I decided to go through security early. And and this is a long time ago, you know, yeah. And I think I'm trying to leave Canada. Yeah, you know, exactly. I mean, I'm trying to leave. You know, uh, I don't know, I don't know,
I don't know, and they do well like me. You'd be wanting to get rid of me, you know. So, so, so I make it down. But strangely enough, years later, I get pulled over by the not the TSA, but US customs or whatever, whatever it was. And they pulled me over. This guy is looking really serious. I mean, it pulls me over. And I had my fencing kit with me. And I was coming into America. And I'm fencing bag. And I was in the middle of writing a novel, Lord, if he boat race at the time.
And I had the, the part of the manuscript in the bag. And then I had some other stuff and I was working doing some solo stuff. I think with Royal, whatever it was, um, I, I turn up and, uh, and they put me, you know, right here, I said, no, I'm just coming here to go and work in a record in NLA. What's this? This is my fencing kit. What? Fencing kit. What do you mean? They look me, what's this? I said, it's a novel I'm writing. What? You know, and, and, and, and after a while,
they said they went, okay. Why have we stopped you? I said, I got no idea why you stopped me. I said, can you tell me? He goes, when he said, you're obviously not a criminal. You're obviously not a drugs mugler. I said, so I don't know why we stopped you. I said, well, can you find out? He goes, yeah, hang on a minute. So, so it gets the supervisor in and the supervisor comes in and goes, oh, let's have a look. He says, did you have a problem years ago in Montreal with a studded wristman?
Last question. We're, we went to peg 1988. We hear Bruce Dickinson on the radio of Seven Sun Tour and we're like, put two into together. If he's on the radio, we can go to the radio station and we'll probably see him. My cousin and I, we go, you come out, we're standing there like two idiots. Don't know what to say. And you're like, would you like a picture? Yes, sir, Mr. Dickinson, take a picture. My cousin was in a high school band. He, he, a band was called Cletus.
Oh, I remember them. I remember them. He goes, Mr. He goes, Bruce, would you like a t-shirt from a Saskatchewan rock band for Cletus? And you said, yes, you took the t-shirt. What did you do with the Cletus t-shirt? I think I actually wore it somewhere. I think wear it. You know, he is going to slip out. I remember that band. You do really remember this? I remember it wasn't it, it wasn't in Winnipeg and Winters, was it? It was Winnipeg, Seven Sun Tour. No, no, it probably, it
bit it for, because I remember we did once play Winnipeg in the depths of Winters. I think that would be even more power-sleeve tour. Oh, yeah. God, I, I, I went out and I went for a walk around the square in front of the hotel. This is the most stupid thing I think I've ever done for, you know, don't get used to it. I came back, my eyeballs were like frozen and I, like, everything was frozen. You know his hair is hard. Oh, man, I thought I thought I'm not going to make it back.
I thought, you know, Captain Scott's got nothing on this, you know. Strange and strange, then you get a Fandruff buried corpse. Would you fear a song to sing live? Ah, ba ba, ba ba, ba ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, whoa, varies from tour to tour, but obviously, I mean, last tour I just get a big, big, I always get a big kick out of singing Seven Sun. I love that, too, and you get, you're really, yeah, rappier girls around
that year. Yeah, you know, and let rip, you know. New record book of souls Bruce Dickinson is great to talk to you man my cousin's gonna flip on the clearest t-shirt yeah thanks to Bruce Dickinson the new iron maiden album the book of souls is out now
came out today as a matter of fact and wouldn't honor to talk to Bruce on the day of the album's release my inner fanboy is freaking out i can't believe you remembered clearest like literally Chad gave him the clearest shirt and we're laughing the next day niko was probably polishing his
symbols with it or something along those lines but Bruce remembered clearest and if he didn't remember he sure did fake it well so thanks to Bruce i'm sure nobody else asked him that question during this crazy press junk that he had he did so many interviews but he was still so cool
i love the story about him with long hair that's how it used to be all of us that had long hair you guys know i'm talking about we were always judged when we had long hair for being drug dealers it must be a drug dealer he's got long hair but cool to have Bruce on and like i said the book of
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and i guess it's also i guess what else is going on next week the y2j wfall tour happens yeah i got four countries in the next two months Edmonton on the eleventh Calgary there's Toronto Syracuse Rochester Trenton Madison Square Garden y2j 25th anniversary Jericho versus Owens a lot of
you people wanted to see that now you get a chance to see it in Madison Square Garden the most famous leery in the world or live on the WWE network that is on october 3rd you are going to love it all right then i go to Saudi Arabia then i hit in Mexico then october 30th fauzi is getting
ready to rock out with the kiss navy on the kiss crews after that we're taking the cinder block party tour back to the uk in europe with non point and sumo psycho in tow the date start november 13th on rhododam viana hamburger brilin cologne november 20th in france then luxenburg redding
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you do stay hard stay hungry peace loving hugs and next Wednesday i got another great rock and rule hall of famer the return of paul stanley here on talk is jericho to discuss the 40th anniversary of kiss alive that's right september 9th 1975 kiss alive was released it might have been september 10th somewhere in that area and on the exact 40 year anniversary of that monumental crazy live record paul stanley will be here to talk all about that who gets to the best guess yeah i do yeah
boy yeah boy yeah boy paul stanley on Wednesday we'll see you then give it all i got you give it all you got you can download new episodes of talk is jericho every Wednesday and Friday at podcast1.com that's podcast oene.com