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All right, we are here with the legendary KK Downing is here. We got the KK boys here. Huge tour going on right now in the States. Congratulations on that. Tell us kind of how this all came about because it's a tremendous double bill of KK's priest and accept. Yeah, we kind of met on the boat didn't we? We did after so many years accept to it with us when I obviously do is pre-1981 and we did the months as a rock cruise earlier in the year and.
And so did Wolfen accept and we just collided on the boat and both said hey, we should do some shows together and it all kind of springboarded pretty fast. After we saw him and. Kids call me and talking about it and it started rolling right away the tour poster is amazing is KK and wolf head to head flying these I mean once again this is a great double bill for the States and this is kind of one of your first extensive tours of the States isn't it KK with with KK's priest.
I know you've done a few shows going coast to coast is the first one right yes, we did just a short run up the east coast about 15 shows after the monsters rock cruise. Now we're going all the way around as many places as we can it's quite extensive we just had a second show in Los Angeles which is great and we just off to Denver today and we're going to be going all the way around and that's well.
Hey guys there he is am I late or are you guys early we're we're extra early we're extra early we said let's start this thing before wolf is here so we can get a jump. Exactly so can talk shit about me that's right. We were just bearing you for the last five minutes so you'll hear all about it when we actually play we're just talking about how cool this tour is wolf of KK and accept it's a great double bill really fits we're just talking about how it came about.
Yeah one of those weird little coincidences right. Yeah we were on the ship I just told the story wolf how it came about and and came about very quickly. Yeah we were just in Europe playing quite a few festivals together which was fun. Back and being one of them. Yeah it's so neat you know to put so called compatible bands together to tour to with wolf with accept before and obviously we go back from the metal.
To the stone age. So we're. Yeah so us dinosaurs about now we kind of search the the planes looking for each other. You know KK and I we invented heavy metal back in the day and we brought it to the world right. Pretty much that pretty close and see what happened see what see what you guys did with it.
And I listen to it when we were young so that's right exactly wolf you've turned the states many many times with accept obviously what's different about this tour I was just talking earlier with kinky with the even the tour poster is so epic of the two of you guys face to face like that makes me want to buy a ticket just from that alone the marketing of it was great.
Great double bill once again. Yeah I think this tour is special because it's really we've never toured with a band that another band that was so on target like I mean this is a perfect. Match you know there's the old. Thought of should we tour with somebody that has a slightly different audience or should we tour with somebody that fits the same exact style of music and kind of has the same sort of group of fans. And this one is definitely the later you know we think whoever likes.
And that's the most like the like accept and the other way around so it's perfect for the fans I think yeah I always like to I'm always attracted to a bill where I like all of the bands that are playing you know. So it was like scorpions and UFO and and saxon and accept you know but this is what we call a good value for money and I think that that's I think that's where we're at with this tour.
Yeah it's perfect. It's for the metal fans to come out and have a great evening and everything that they're going to hear you know the fans are going to be able to like and enjoy as opposed to I like Wolf just said sometimes you get put together on a bill well you know that you know that Chris as well with your own bands sure you know it's like different genres.
I found it doesn't always work so well because you think like oh maybe their fans get introduced to our music and and our fans to their music. But a lot of times that spill over doesn't really happen you go almost to camps in the audience you know your people and the other guys so it's I think these are all our people in this case I think I also don't know if we didn't do it because of the music or because of the flying bees I'm not sure why this.
Hey I just realized the other night there's no that's nothing but flying bees on this stage. Well we didn't the Valken Festival we were getting ready to go on and I'm looking it over there went over the stage and see all the all the bees I'm just taking we got beat both sides of our state and bees and I'm like this is a I can guarantee you this is more flying bees have been on stage a night ever in the history of the metal.
I love it too because except now you have three guitar players and it is great when watching you teach Joel Hoxtra how to do the choreography the except choreography. The place five you learn how to be in step with the rock and roll man well yeah it's a show don't you I mean we don't want to look like like fools when you got up there you sort of want to you know we have certain stuff we always do together and that's that's a lot of fun you know for us and the fans.
I have two singers on stage some nights to because I'm going to get up there and sing balls of the wall. Better you better we're going to get mark the sink breaking loss of my foot so except going to have three guitar players and two singers. There you go it's going to get crowded on stage I know.
How long have you guys known each other K.K. Wolf you mentioned you toured together 91 but I'm sure you've known each other for a long time it was actually earlier than that was actually I. 81 81 yeah before Chris was born.
Yeah we think you're into it's great that you guys once again are being able to do this because you both have I mean accepts about ready to do 50 anniversary I mean priest pretty much the same I mean that's as we know being a working musician that's something very special to say you've got half a century between your two bands that's amazing. Yeah between the two of us that's the century of metal. Century of rock century flying.
Let's talk a little about about K.K. his priest K.K. and how you formed the band obviously with Ripper who was in priest for a long time. What made you finally decide it's time for me to take this on the road and do my own thing because you it's been a while since you were out of priest. Yeah it was it was just a coincidence relay how good friend David Allison came to England with his band invited me to. So will you get up and play a couple of songs you know and so we're not to.
Okay and then it's kind of snowball from there didn't it myself a two-minute mutual friend and he says oh yeah. If you're going to get up and I'm going to send Ripper a ticket go I want to see him singing with you guys and then we got Les Binks you know play with the band in the 70s and. And an H.A. played on the show that was the first of H.A. so yeah now you get started it.
So and then after that I had another you know I think it was Ross the boss over playing a festival so will you play a few songs. And these things started to happen you know and so I just decided well you know it's been a long time maybe I should get back in the ring. Yeah Ripper how was it for you to come back and play with K.K. again after all those years of being in priest. It was great and it felt like we didn't miss a beat you know we got together and just looking over at him and every.
All the things we did together on stage during songs and it's just all kind of came but we stayed in contact and you would come out watch me. On solo shows and over I came out he'd always bring a couple cases of beer to the band guys and always hang out and make the band nervous my band but. It was just it just went right into it you know and it was you fell a lot of enjoyment with it and that's when when he called and said listen you want to are you interested in doing.
I'm going to do a record you want to do it and it was a no brainer then we could feel that that show it to still mill was just the energy and excitement from the people you know but but it was all times you know I mean we. I still look at him and think even now Chris all these years later and everything we've done I still look at him go this is K.K.
Downing yeah you know you still look at it because it's just excitement of you know I still look at him but then I have to say okay get back at the saying and don't worry about who he is. Yeah we're having fun Chris like I do in a couple of albums two albums in two years that was fun we'll have to see where we go from here. But if we still all survive this to it's a long one isn't it yeah we're gonna be we'll be fine. I already. I'm gonna go pretty quick I think.
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We're talking this is k case first k case priest first or the states except you guys have been touring nonstop you have built this band so big over the last fifteen twenty years almost bigger than you probably were in the eighties in a lot of ways will for accept. Yeah it feels that way certainly does I mean ever since we got back with Mark and the new except point two point oh basically.
Yeah. Going stronger and stronger every year we made some great albums and and the fans love it and there's no sign of stopping us. So we're really it almost feels like it's more successful and more energetic and we're more on a role that we ever were. It's it's really very continuous and straight on there's no hiccups really.
So I'm really enjoying this this time around almost more than I did back then you know everybody talks about the golden eighties and how wonderful it was and it kind of was but personally I appreciate this time even more maybe because I don't know the older we get the more you learn to appreciate what you have maybe I don't know. I'm fully aware I'm very humble and very fortunate in this position and that we're still doing it.
What was your mindset to have the three guitars because obviously accepted to guitar band for so long and then you know maiden does it Halloween does it except is doing it what was kind of your mindset to add an extra guy. I think in most cases and including in hours it just sort of happens by chance because we found Phil because he was sitting in for one tour in Europe when we played with an orchestra
and Ouvre couldn't do that tour so we we used Phil who was a good friend of Christopher's and we got along so well that after the tour was over we didn't really want to decide between the two of them and we said can we just all be friends and all be up there on stage and and sort of see how that sounds and we tried it out and it was really phenomenal.
We really enjoy it. You know it's one of those things do you need three guitar players probably not but is it more fun and does it sound better to me it does and we enjoy it.
So did you have to rewrite some parts. Yeah we did yeah yeah because I mean every album in KK knows this too I mean you usually layer more than two guitars on each album anyhow you know you don't even be left and right rhythm and that is overdups and solos and twin solos and you've got a rhythm guitar underneath so she can't all you cannot do every part like it is on the record anyhow but obviously with three guys we have more of a choice you can do more stuff than it's just two.
So it's a bit of a mini orchestra in a way you know how about KK for you with playing with AJ and obviously one of the greatest twin guitar duos of all time KK down in Glen Tipton and now you're playing with with with with AJ how did you adjust to not having your partner and playing with somebody new.
It just it was a good just natural process I know J for some years you know we played together you know at home and jamming and stuff like that and it's good to have someone that is totally into what you're doing and sees you know and enjoys it and AJ tells the funny story he was wasn't a guitar player until he saw
you just reached with the ripper singing in in a venue in Birmingham and that was the is kind of first metal concert you know and he said to me that he just said to himself down on the night I want to be that guy up there and he was pointing to me so that was pretty aspirational I guess for him I mean the same thing happened to me when I first saw Jimmy Hendrix you know obviously not to copy or to be like him but just
to have the inspiration and thinking God you know that you just so influenced by you know you just take it in by the moments there and he said he had that moment which is kind of a cool story and now he's you know on the big stages like Wolf just said we just both bands just played a vacuum with the you know the biggest festival probably over 90,000 people that was with scorpions except in KK's priest and a bunch of other bands talk about good value for money
there you know for the fans you know have a good synergy together and it's good to see AJ and you know some young blood in the band for him to be go through that process the idea as a youngster from being you know just starting out and then you end up on the big stages it's pretty rewarding but it's a great place for
me to say Chris he's a great player he's a great person a fantastic player looks great you know I was with both teams then right right I see you know Glenn and Ken and it's there's not not a beat missing I mean he is a fantastic player and he gets better he's gotten better since we even started you know I mean he just keeps working in his craft but he's a fantastic player and he's a great guy to have around you know
really good because once again I was reading and also to like you cannot find demolition and your first record you with priest if they're not on iTunes which is very strange is it cool to sing a song like burning health for example we can hear those songs now what's the deal with that it's great you know luckily for me to
a lot solo and I've always put a lot of those songs in a my solo set book from the jugulator record and demolition record hopefully in the future will probably do one off a demolition but it's a shame they're not out there I think you can get demolition on some some streaming sites but jugulators totally gone I mean they just wipe you know they can wipe my records off
the phase of the earth but they can't get rid of me I'm still I'm still I'm like a cockroach you know so they can't get rid of me they just give it to my but it's great it's great to get up there the in Burton Helg it's an amazing response every night it's you know it's nice to do it you know but I enjoy the most on stage I enjoy the K case pre songs the most now it's fantastic but it's nice hopefully those those records will be out there again someday and you know if not that's so be it
do you do we know why they're not available is a record company issue I don't believe when we did those records with Ripper we were signed to some independent labels and after a period of time those labels cease to exist
and so the records and the rights of the records certainly would have came back to the band you know you know the owners has to be on on the band as to why they have a preference not to to have that product you know available for the fans I certainly don't have an answer for that but I would be trusted to ask the question
gotcha will talk about humanoid one thing about acceptance you guys especially working with our mutual friend Andy sneak really kind of gave you guys some great inspiration or kicking ass or whatever was you know a decade ago once again a great new record in this era when a lot of new bands don't even bother putting out new stuff
don't want to put out new stuff except as always been one of those bands like iron maiden you put out new records and you play those songs live and you get people interested in the new stuff as much as they as they are in the classic stuff yeah we do actually I think it we really we're still putting in the effort and I think people respect that and the fans appreciate that because
my motto has always been god we did it back then we wrote great songs that we still play tonight and why shouldn't be be able to create new songs now that that are as good and maybe even better you know when I get up into the song writing process I say to myself usually
maybe the best song hasn't been done yet maybe the best solo hasn't been played yet so you know I really try to give it all I've got with that sort of mindset that I can still do it I still want to do it so let's give it whatever it takes I think if you put in that effort that something's good it's going to happen
and yeah you said Andy Sneep is a valuable part in all that he actually produced all six of our albums of the new era and you know they all got a killer sound I think there's some great songs on there and yeah we play him live for sure which is funny because
Sneep is actually in Judas Priestess yeah the connection the coincidence the new records great that I'm going to the new record it to Jim every day so I can get ready for this tour so I was all pumped up and then it's a fantastic record it's awesome really that's awesome thanks man beautiful
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when you're putting together your set for kk's priest obviously your records are excellent stuff the kk's priest stuff but people also want to hear some Judas priest you're playing like you mentioned breaking the law but you go a little bit deeper than that as well I saw your set list from this tour with help control which is very kind of night crawler you getting some deep tracks there how was it if you put together the set list for for this tour for other other shows that you've done it's really really difficult
Chris as you can imagine you know with so many songs to choose from you know with the kk's priest albums it would be great to just play all of that or all of jugulator and demolition or so much material but that's why I guess we hopefully
we're going to be able to do a band research a massive catalog of songs it's really difficult to to choose the set list but all we can do is keep on playing and the world's a big place and lots of places you know we're just basically starting out aren't we yeah that's great you know
we're going to some songs like the sinner and diamonds and rust back in the set list again you know and it's it's a nice it's a nice set list and but you know you have to put in songs like a green metal issue and breaking the law you know I would love to take breaking the law out of the set list but the people out there go not
to do it you know but you but then they're going just as crazy for help our thunderbolt and one more shot of glory so it's a it's nice but every time I announce the center I always call Ken over here Mr. Center so it's always nice every night to go into that song and get ready for his patented you know
that's one of those things to show you go through as well wolf with let's say balls the wall for example break in the law it's like oh my gosh we're playing this song again but for people in the crowd they might be hearing it for the first time ever I finally get to hear balls
the wall tonight right so it's almost like a good problem quote unquote to have yeah totally and I think I always try to remind myself we're not doing this necessarily for us we're also doing it for the audience you know we're not playing to satisfy ourselves because sometimes you feel like oh that's a cool old song I really would like to play that but then we've tried those sometimes in the past that you get the sort of this loop warm reaction and you think
okay so whose purpose was served here so you know what I mean yeah we have songs that we've played for all these years and sure like KKS and and they're kind of boring during rehearsals because you know inside out you can play them upside down underwater you could but you don't really need to rehearse them but then those songs are gold live you know when we when we have you know balls to the wall
princess of the dawn everybody starts singing along and you're very happy to have those songs and those are sometimes the most fun moments on stage yeah absolutely for sure I was going to ask you as well too when you first started I mean German heavy metal is so important to the history I love accept I love Halloween scorpions three of the all time greatest bands still doing great business what was it like for you when you started with accept I'm sure was late 70s
yeah was there a scene in Germany at the time or did you almost kind of create that yeah I mean there wasn't seen but it wasn't really hard and heavy I mean there was this what you called crowd rock which was sort of like experimental or I mean
right I mean hippie rock or whatever I mean there's it was weird it wasn't as heavy and it's hard but you know we took our influences from deep purple Judas Priest ACDC those are usually the three components that make up our music we were maybe the heaviest or the first real heavy metal band out of Germany I mean there was this yeah there were more pions but they were almost more rock than metal you know they were very at radio hits and they were set up more on the commercial side of things
yeah when we came out with rest is in wild and fast as a shark and stuff that was definitely ahead of its time a little bit and there was before there was such a huge German scene and I remember it was very difficult in the early years to be taken seriously world wide
and it wasn't hardly any bands out of Germany everybody was from the UK or the US you know and here's another band from Germany it's not really you know it wasn't our native language so it always felt a little bit like an uphill battle you weren't like really part of the cool club you know
yeah so it was it was difficult to get that recognition how about for you KK with the early years of priest you know because you look at the rocker roll video clip and you know it was a wearing like pamphats and like blazers and suits it was it was not the metal scene that it became years later
yeah at the beginning for quite a few years hard rock hadn't been you know coined as a phrase or heavy rock all it was in the late 60s and early 70s was basically progressive rock and when we used to get booked into a into a club or a venue that's what they labeled us as you know Judas Priest progressive blues you know because that's what was a long at the time you know because people didn't really know what music and we didn't really know what music were composing and playing
we just knew that we wanted to do something that we liked and something that was different and then obviously as time went on you did get the hard rock then we were a heavy rock band people called us and then eventually they called us a heavy metal band
but yeah it was kind of a long time ago just before electricity when all that was going on it was a great experience to have been a part of the evolution of metal over such a long period of time and to be creative yeah exceptionally rewarding you know I'm lucky and blessed to be a part of it all
image was so important as we started getting to the early 80s and obviously both priest and accept very much leather London leather boys for sure and of course the Judas Priest look with the spikes and the studs and all that sort of stuff
how did that become part of the scene for you guys and you can start cake cake because you think of Judas Priest in 80 182 it's all leather stud spikes it was a total complete look that every other band started adopting yeah well it was about 1976 you know I started to become aware of
well let me put the other way around the clothes that we were wearing didn't really fit the sound of the music that we were playing and so I just took it upon myself to start wearing all black with some leather and studs and in fact last night I wore a leather and studied choker and that's the same one that I wore in 1976 the very same one you know there are some videos of me in Japan wearing that gear but eventually I said to Rob Giffancy
come in to London to get some clothes made and that's what we did we went on the train to London and had some leather gear made and then Rob really took to it you know really in a big way and everybody started to go over to that and then by the time we did British Steel everybody was cladding leather and studs and suddenly it all started to come together and feel really good and I think you know for that tour and that album
I for one really felt you know really really complete that you know the band felt and sounded really uniform and powerful it was hard to find these these things in those days I remember you know you couldn't you almost had to we went to Kensington market in London a few times that we were over there we said good go shopping and that's where you could find it that's where you can find the leather because you guys all had the leather vests very much a uniform like you said
yeah yeah it was hard to find this kind of stuff back then I went and saw you guys KK on the defenders of the faith tour and you had a shirt it was called eat me alive and it was like you saw the chicks butt and her legs were open so you're seeing it from behind and I wore it to school and the principal made me go home and change shirts I wonder why I wonder why I didn't even know what that meant eat me alive what does that mean I don't know why do I have to chase my shirt mom
that's the problem we wouldn't have sent you home right that just got drum on in you know that's a nothing world now says it is Ripper it's a tried and true story but but I just wanted to tell it again for people that might not know
obviously Rob Helfer leaves Judas Priest they go to get a new singer you're you're singing in a Judas Priest tribute band and suddenly you end up actually in Judas Priest kind of talking about how that all came about for you because it is the success story that every kid dreams of
yeah getting into Judas Priest and the whole story of that was was amazing it's almost it's almost like they should make a movie about it but it was really amazing and I had no plans to be musician but to get that call to go try out for Judas Priest and Wales
at that famous studio and Wales what was it the studio rock field and Wales rock field and Wales which Sabbath recorded and I'll tell you it was pretty amazing for someone from Mac and Ohio to be flown in England and auditioned for his favorite band
but they all made me feel so good and so it was so natural just to be around them that it was a pretty easy audition luckily I only had to sing one line and I made the band because if I wouldn't had to sing a whole song I might have not made it so I just sang one line and got got the job
would you say needed to make sure he wasn't a karaoke guy you know they asked me if I was mining the songs they called me they saw this tape and I said you know the band wasn't very good but your vocals were really good and we just want to make sure before we fly here that you weren't mining
really yeah we didn't really know until you sung the first line and that was it you know it went okay it was really pretty impressive stuff for sure how did you hear about him KK well it was Scott really Scott Travis he said that he'd been pointed in the direction
because obviously we were looking for a vocalist for such a long time he said that he'd been made of a way of a guy that was singing in a tribute band and we should check him out and then we got a tape down listen to it it was hard to believe that it was real you know that somebody could sing
so a like and do it so well so obviously we were very inquisitive but we flew too much and the deal was done you always done yeah well you obviously know this too wolf how hard is to replace a singer you guys did it in the 80s on the heat the heat record then Udo comes
back then he leaves how did you find Mark to be your new singer and was that a hard task knowing that Udo is so much at the time was so much a part of the accept and now you almost have to start from scratch with a new guy you got to make sure you find the right guy what was that process
like well it was kind of similar in a way I mean we weren't really thinking of about reforming the band at that point it was just Peter and I were at a jam session and his he lived in Philadelphia at the time and we were sort of visiting and we said wouldn't it be fun to jam in a rehearsal space
and have a bit of fun and then somebody suggested hey there's this guy who lives around the corner he knows your material really well he would probably want to join you as a just for fun and that's how it came about and then Mark started singing and we thought like whoa this sounds
too good to be true and that led to the idea of reforming the band very spontaneously you know when it fits it fits it's one of those crazy coincidences we didn't do any like we never auditioned anybody else and we didn't really go out and and search the internet or anything it was just
purely because somebody suggested it and it was a lucky coincidence and that Peter and I looked at each other and thought like are you thinking what I'm thinking you know here's our chance to you know because it was made clear that Udo would never do this again and he had no interest so he said
there's all men let's go and see what we can do it's crazy did the fans accept him right away it took a bit convincing because we made a mistake of releasing a demo very early on and thought this being a demo sounds really incredible because it was really a live raw demo and without uh check it
out guys this the sounds incredible there was a bit of backlash initially because you know everybody had an opinion of first wouldn't work and this doesn't sound anything like the old records well of course it didn't because it was it wasn't a polished record you know it was like 17 takes it was
a one-take rehearsal demo yeah but when the actual first album came out came out the tight changed and everything everything was fine but you know it's a tricky thing to change leapsing I don't know that very well everybody knows that and you mentioned eat the heat in the 80s
well eight eighties yeah that that one didn't work at all because it was too different from we tried to change leapsingers and musical direction at the same time and that just didn't didn't go over where real and we never got the right chemistry with Dave anyhow but with markets
different it just fits and it works fine it's wonderful the 90s were a tough time uh for metal cake out obviously maiden gets blaze balian for Bruce and then you guys bring tim in for rob tim for you guys and for you cake it was what was that like when you come in the band does fans accept
you right away was their backlash was there problems well they definitely came to the shows wanting to hate me that was for sure uh I think that was their main goal but luckily I could if they came to a live performance I could win them over with yeah the times that I performances but I think it
was accepted fairly well by a lot of the fans I mean it's never going to be totally accepted like mark has and we're never you know there's always going to be someone that says that this isn't the band or whatever but I think it was accepted pretty well just unfortunately it was 1997 when the
record came out which was a abysmal time of heavy metal so I had to fight against two different things of people not wanting me there and then other people not even wanting the band there luckily 2000 it came back but I felt was accepted pretty well I mean jugular was a pretty heavy
record but it was a natural progression in my opinion of what Judas Priest would have been doing anyways I just had a little more low-end and different things to my voice listen I just wanted to do the best I could if someone didn't accept me if I wasn't good and I was singing bad and they
didn't accept me I would understand it I just wanted to sing as good as I could and they didn't accept me they didn't accept me they have Rob out there just like they can go they got Udo out there and I did a show with Udo last year and he said nothing but just so many great things about
marks singing and stuff like it was nice to talk to everybody like at marks yeah this is singing and what's nice is you have this you know they can go see this that or whatever they want but you have it out there people are lucky to have this out there and at that time Rob he didn't leave
heavy metal but he did come back and he was doing his thing so people had it but I felt I was accepted good enough you know yeah well I'll say this I've said this often before I don't ever told you the the most powerful singers I've ever seen live and Wilson Tim Ripper Owens
so much power man I remember watching you at the hard rock in Orlando I think it was a demolition tour just watching you just I was so good so thumbs up to you man I remember us meeting as a time we met so I met yeah as we start to wind down I know you guys got to get a catch of flight but KKK what Ripper just mentioned about how jugular was such a heavy record you guys made a real switch between Ramit down and painkiller in the in the early 90s painkiller is so heavy and it's
so it's the natural progression of priest but it definitely is a much heavier record what made you guys go into that direction it's almost thrashing a lot of ways but don't know we never actually sat down to the scussic Chris I just think that myself and Glenn obviously went into writing mode again
and the one thing that was different was bringing Scott Traverson obviously with the right this ferocious you know speedy double kicks and everything which kind of did actually open possibilities for the songwriting aspect and I know that when we auditioned with Scott and
we played through some songs you know and played a couple of the new songs ideas that we had it kind of just went on from there it sounded just like there was just had more pace and more ferocity about the whole thing from even from the the auditions you know and and we just kind of
kept that up I think you know and obviously when we were putting the song together painkiller you know which was one of the first songs that we kind of were creating and we just wanted the whole album to have this kind of energy I guess you know because a balance on there is no
I think it's an album a paladilist album remember you know you'd be able to be able to buy it as close but we just wanted to maybe just stamp out more you know as bands do but it was a natural process for us I think once we started we just kept this the theme going really you know
with the song titles old ones blazing and it was just one of those things that just happened it was a magical time it felt good the band felt good we were enjoying ourselves enjoying the music it was a great record wasn't it I mean it was just a kick they come out with painkiller and was
like yes you know yeah I don't know how it is for you KK but I've often get asked a similar question like what did it take for you guys to make this album or why did you decide to go into that direction and my answer is always it was never really decided on anything it's it sort of just happens
you start writing songs and there's your album and it is what it is and you know half the time you are not really fully aware of the nuances I mean because you're so deep into it and you just follow wherever it leads and at a certain point you have 10 great songs or 12 and there's your
album but you never made the decision to have it in a certain way no you just because the thing is the decades move on and your mindset and things happen to you whether it's influences inside outside or just what you can actually create yourself as Wolf knows at the end of the day you have
to sit down and you have to create a song and it has to be unique and for it to be unique you can't like look to copy people and things you've just got to look to yourself to produce something and what comes out it's just at that time at that moment is it Wolf yeah it's like a
slice of time yeah I know and sometimes you just get lucky with it the time in's right you know the collection of songs it's right and sometimes you're a little bit too early with it sometimes you can be too late sometimes you get it just right and I think that's kind of what happens
pretty much with painkiller even though that album did gain the momentum as the years went on and that's another interesting thing you never really know how a certain album would have done if it would have been released three years five years earlier or five years later it could have
been completely different well or worse received and you never really know because everybody else changes too you know last few questions for you guys obviously you get along well like I said the the concept of this tour just intrigued me and it excited me is this something that you guys might
do more of after this tour is done in the states in Canada would you think about doing it in Europe for example yes we've I think our people are already talking yeah yeah we'd like to do it obviously um it's just as we said we go out there you know it's a co-edline situation but you know it's a
fall on metal assault as we say yeah and you know I'll just say to all the fans out there you know if you're thinking about it stop thinking about it just come out and see us and see for yourself we can we can promise everyone a great night of metal and this is pretty it's a unique time you
know first time we've played together is it more you know yes it is yeah yeah and I come out while we're doing it don't miss it because the world's a big place and if us and accept to gonna go a lot more places you'll be a long time before we get another chance so come on down
and check us I get all out exactly last question for you guys the first one it's a two-parter what's your favorite song to play live go you can start wolf fast as a shark is a lot of fun yeah I always like that one that's a great one the first power metal song of all time I always say I always
enjoy that you've got the cool little twins yeah cool middle guard and all that's it's always a lot of fun to play that song how about you KK well you know I enjoy everything but you know I like to do some improvised solo stuff and things like that's all a bit risky obviously songs like
obviously the center and stuff like that I never really know what I'm gonna do but that's kind of fun I kind of like that you know it's a bit of a test and I like to throw a few shapes and make a lot of noise don't you do perfect I want you Ripper uh you know right now I like to do the
center I never sang it before so it's kind of fun and I like to try to stick to the studio version of it which I don't know I don't know if the studio version of it's ever been sung before so I like big that same melodies but the one's probably hellfire thunderbolt that we open up with because
it's I just come out sing I hope hoping I can sing and it's got the high notes in it it's just straightforward so I think hellfire thunderbolt's probably it all right last question Tim what's your favorite except song I listen I got to go to the balls to the wall I know it's gonna be the song
I have to say but I grew up singing that never band I was in and it's just you know if I don't for balls to the wall all right KK your favorite except song yeah I would have to do the first time I ever heard balls to the wall it was just the title I'm thinking can these guys really get away with
that you know yeah it was so controversial is empty bigger than plays is he can they do it because and they did empty me did except absolutely totally got away with it so well done you guys and I wish I'd have thought of that wolf what's your favorite pre-song can I have two please I take
break in the law and the grinder oh looking for meat and I always like Judas breeze because they're amazing riffs you know and yeah I'm a sucker for riffs because all music is about riffs that you guys have to kill a riffs in all these songs so I'm gonna go with the Sentinel
and I'm gonna throw an obscure one at your wolf bound to fail one of my all-time favorite songs bound to fail yeah good good one nice all right guys it's been great talking to you finally nice to meet you KK finally face to face and I always get to see you wolf and good to see your ripper and congratulations on this tour I plan to be in the front row at one of these shows I'll throw my panties on stage yes please all right brilliant thanks thank you so much please