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Talkies, Jericho baby. Talkies, Jericho. Talkies, Jericho mama. Talkies, baby. Alright, welcome to Talkies Jericho. It's the pot of thunder and rock and roll. There are so many great bands and artists touring this summer. Everybody's out and that's why I figured it was a good time to have a good friend of mine on the show to give us a little behind the scenes look. It would have takes to make, well, not just one of these mammoth tours, but two of the biggest tours running smoothly.
I'm talking to my friend Foster who works for both Metallica and the Rolling Stones backstage, your official title is dressing room coordinator. But as you'll hear, she does so much more than that. She's been with both bands for over 20 years. She's officially full time with Metallica, but she goes out with the stones as well as like what?
Is you two not hiring? She's like, yeah, I work for you too as well. And Van Halen and then amongst many others, Foster is the one responsible for setting up all the backstage rooms at each venue. Nine separate rooms on the Metallica tour and 15 for the stones that includes everybody in the bands, individual dressing rooms, Mick Jagger, James Effield, Lars Ulrich, Keith Richards, plus community rooms like workout rooms, catering, warm up rooms.
She escorts the band to the stage every night and gets them post show to go back to the dress rooms. She makes sure they have everything they need before they hit the stage and everything they want the moment the show is over, including a cheese pizza for Lars Ulrich.
She's sharing details about the pipe and drape required for the stones, various dress rooms and the personal touches she finds and includes for each band member for both bands. She's actually shopping for a couch for Mick Jagger during this interview. She's also sharing stories from the time she tour manage VH and one on the road with you too. An incredible backstage look at Metallica and the rolling stones and touring in the summer, stadiums in general coming up with Foster.
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So I'm always looking for interesting people to have on Talk is Jericho after almost 900 episodes and one of the most interesting people that I see once every, well now it's been once every two or three years is my friend Canadian Brethren Foster. If we're doing the lead has the enviable job of working for Metallica and the Rolling Stones and I always say was you two not available Foster to get the trifecta here. Hey, I did a month with them. There you go, wow. Okay, now you're just showing off.
But here's the best part. When we were talking the other day about doing one of the stone shows, I asked you to do Talk is Jericho and I kind of just did a Google search to see if you'd ever come to the booth. I had no idea that your name is not actually Foster's Heather. How did you get the name Foster? Oh, jeez. I was out with some friends in university and were sitting at a bar and we all decided who we thought we looked like.
And at the time I was young and skinnier and long blonde hair and I looked like Jody Foster. Everyone just kind of went with that. I can see that a little bit of the Jody Foster thing going on there. 35 years later. Well, if Foster is your nickname now, you're welcome to tell everybody what you know me as my nickname. Really? Prom day? She introduced me to when we were touring with Metallica in Australia, which was the, what was that called, Sound Wave Tour.
Which was like a five show stadium tour. And that's when I met most of the Metallica crew. So yeah, this is Prom day. And the reason for that is I went to the prom with Judy Duncan in Winnipeg. One of my best friends. One of your best friends and that's kind of how we got connected because also Stacy Jenning. Yes. As well. And Shan Jackson. Yeah, this whole crew of girls went from Winnipeg to Toronto and you guys all hooked up and became friends. How did you know that I was prom date?
You know, I don't even remember how it came up. But we must have been talking about you. And I think you were coming through town, maybe doing a wrestling thing. And it just sort of came up that you went to prom. And then we started going through Judy's old albums and found the photo. And I got to say your mullet is spectacular. It's amazing. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, it's good. So this is so interesting, like I said, so you have both these crazy cool jobs.
And it seems that whenever I want to go to the stones, you're working with Metallica. And whenever I'm at Metallica, you're working with the stones. So before we get into the history of it all, how does that work for you? Because it's so weird because the stones do like 15 shows a year. But it's usually during the summer. I'm assuming it's Metallica's usually out in the summer. So how are you able to juggle that with both of your respective bosses, I guess?
Well, sometimes I think that Lars and Mick sit down and talk and they're like, okay, how do we divide her time? But that is not actually how it happens. I'm with Metallica full time. That's just a given. So I'm always with Metallica in any off time. If the stones go out, I go over to the stones. And I'm just really, really lucky because that whole production, the band, they're totally cool with me. I'll do all the advance. I'll do all the sort of groundwork on the computer.
But they're okay if I miss some shows. I mean, it's been 20 years. So they're kind of, I think, used to seeing my face. Well, once again, this is not blowing smoke. I mean, that shows how valuable you are to the organization. Like we have obviously Fuzzy is a much smaller crew, but there's a couple people, one in particular, Avery, who are tour manager and she's my day to day as well. I wouldn't want to do it without her. If she got some other gig where she was going somewhere else to be okay,
we'll come back whenever you can. Don't leave. And that's cool to know that you have that type of freedom. Yeah, I'm very, very fortunate. Very fortunate. So who is technically your boss in both camps? I would say it is the band. It gets down to the band because if I do anything that they don't like, I will be told. Right. I would say the production manager and the band manager. They're the ones that can get rid of me, but much like, you know, once again,
in our much smaller world. So Lars and Mick, you mentioned, they're kind of paying attention. Who's on the crew and kind of an overview of who's who's around? Sure. Absolutely. Even if someone gets injured, I've seen band members be like, are you okay? They're very aware of who's around them. If anyone gets injured, if anyone is sick or if they're not there for whatever reason. So what is your, what is your job with Metallica?
If it's the same with the stones, but what is it that you have to do for both bands? Yeah, I'm their dressing room coordinator. So I set up everything backstage from their rooms, what goes in their rooms, what goes on stage, what goes in their quick changes on stage, everything from catering to toiletries to making, I don't know, the room look how they like it. So does each band obviously at this level, does each guy have his own dressing room? Or is it more of a common room?
Different for both bands. Tell us about Metallica then. Metallica is all one. They like to sort of be together and get ready for the show together. Oh wow. They're one big happy family, not saying that the stones are not, but they've been also touring. This is their 60th year of the stone. Some believeable, right? And they have different styles, you know, like Keith, we all know smokes a lot, and not everyone wants to be around that. So they have their own individual rooms.
It really isn't a hateful thing. It's just they have different styles. Sure, that's big business. Absolutely. I get that. So what do you have to do to put the other Metallica dressing? Lots of pipe and drape. Actually with Metallica not so much. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's more for the stones for sure. But Metallica, it's just they have very specific rooms. So they have a dressing room, they have food room. So it's kind of what they want on the road also could be what they like at home.
So if someone likes to do yoga, then they'll get a room so they can get ready for the show and do yoga. If someone wants to get a massage, if someone each room, we have nine dressing rooms on Metallica. So each room has a different function. So what are the nine rooms that you select? Each thing is delegated to a different activity or something on those lines? Yeah. Of course, there's the wardrobe room. That's my room. And I have to just sit there with all the wardrobe and all the stuff.
And then there's yeah, there's dressing room. There's a room with a dining room. I think the fans all know about the tuning room that they go into. Of course, we see that all the time. Yeah. And then there's just some other personal rooms that they like to hang out in. So when you're talking about let's say, because the wardrobe, for example, with Metallica, black shirt, black jeans, I mean Kirk wears some fancier stuff. But with James, there's not a lot of capes and cows and that sort of thing.
Well, there was a bullet belt. Come on. That's right. That's true. The Jean jacket with all the patches. Yeah. Yeah. Is it one of those things? I richy, riches, claws that where you open it up and there's 10 of the same thing or is it the same one? Do you have to wash it every night like that sort of stuff? For James's best, he has one of a kind. Someone has designed those and made those for him. Sarah Guffison. She put all those patches on. So they're one of a kind and they are Sarah made.
Right. That for those particular items, there's one. That's it. Other things like black t-shirts, when I go shopping for them, I get maybe 50. So, so if I don't have to wash them every night, I don't. Because it's a lot. I mean, they can change their shirt up to five, six times a night. Oh, during a show, they do that. Yeah, during the show. I guess if you're like in some kind of South American country or if it's raining or something, we always see those.
Because Metallica is all stadiums almost at this point. Yeah, well, they're everything, but yeah, mainly stadiums at this point. So, like, just thinking with Metallica for a bit, like, you know, when you see Metallica go to stage, sometimes you're there, you know, shadowing them. Like, what are you, are you just helping them get the stage? Are you knocking out any in inches that are trying to attract them? Or what's kind of the reason for that?
I know, I just roll them in their wheelchair to the stage and then they. Now, they are getting to stage. Like, it's just a matter of like, oh my god, I forgot my ears, the inner ears. With the pack for sound. Sure. All of a sudden, who knows? Like, there could be a pic missing or Lars, you don't want sweaty hands when you go play drums. So, I just have a towel so he can wipe his hands so they're dry. It's just doing the last minute little touches to make sure that they're perfect.
They go on stage and everything's fine. It sounds to me that you're much more of a day to day, you know, moment to moment type. Almost a stage manager, assistant stage manager, because you know, you mentioned wardrobe and dressing rooms, which is one whole area, but going to the stage with the guys. I mean, this is now like, hey Foster, where's my ears? You know, where's, where's, you know, that's kind of more encompassing. Yeah, it's, it's so different too.
Like, because every band is different. And with these guys, when they get to the venue, after I've set up all the dressing rooms and I've done all that, once they get to the venue, it's like I kind of turn into their assistant. Gotcha. Which is fine. Like, obviously, I love my job and I, and I like keep going. A lot of people when the band gets there, they go take a nap on the bus or whatever. Yeah. I just keep going. So I sort of help them get ready for the show as well.
Whereas like the stones, once they get to the venue, I check with them, make sure that their rooms are great and the temperatures fine, the internet's working, whatever. And then their assistants sort of take care of them. Gotcha. So I, I can get a bit of a break on the stones. Because I know even like when I go to the stones or whatever, you sometimes come out to meet me and give me a pass or whatever it is.
So then you got to deal with the guests that you know as well and go out into the wild if need be. Yeah, apparently that doesn't happen anymore. Yeah, right. But yeah, stones, I get way more time to go out and chat and hang out with people. I remember one of the stories in Australia as I was backstage after one of the gigs and you were, you're running like, where's Lars is cheese pizza? He's a cheese pizza. Where is it? He's on stage in 10 minutes. Where is this pizza?
Yeah. Was that the phase that Lars went through? We had to have his cheese pizza after every show. Well, I mean, sure. The style of food changes, but I'm sure even you like after you get off stage, maybe it's Thai food you want or a beer or. Whatever it is, you know, like, right. Everybody wants something even like after anyone works out. I mean, I just went for a run. I come home and I usually eat eggs and drink water.
Yeah. So yeah, he wanted that specific thing and when it's not there right on time. Just saying. We had a show in Brighton because that was gosh, that was 10 years ago now that we were over in Australia. It seems like it's such a long time ago. Yeah. I think we had a pizza after the show. I photocopied to Lars picture and put it on there and put Lars's pizza and send it to him. He's like, gosh, cheese pizza is great after a show and love it.
It's easy to, especially if you're getting into the car right away. Yeah. What's the easiest thing to eat in a car? Pizza. Pizza. So what happens then after the show? Like, are you there when the, you know, seeking destroy ends? Are you there with the towel on the stage and help them go back? Yeah, because they walk right through the arena because they play in the round. Yeah. Yeah. At least now they do.
So when that show is done, you grab them and take them back through the crowd and kind of what's your job at that point? Yeah. I make sure they have their robes and their towels. Actually, if they're coming back to the dressing rooms, I just make sure the showers are turned on. They're nice and hot. Oh, wow. And their assistance will get their robes on them. They're leaving straight from the stage to their cars. I don't really do much.
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Yeah. Used to work for Metallica, and now he works with the stones. It's like it's a small world, right? It's a tiny world, yeah. I'm just so happy too, because when he did leave the stones, or left Metallica, I was like, oh, I'm not going to work with you again. And then you got hired with the stones. It was like, yes. Yeah, he's a good guy. Oh, he's a great guy. But at that level, these guys want the best of the best, right? And so that's kind of how the word gets around.
Like we need to have a security while this guy left, try, give him a try, start a thing. Yeah, exactly. It's pretty much word of mouth. And if people say nice things about you, you're in. Right. It's a work ethic, you know? Sure. When you're talking about the stones, is it kind of the same thing? You mentioned it's not as crazy, but you're still doing dresser rooms. You're still working with wardrobe. And the stones have a much more macular wardrobe when you see them on stage.
Like they have a real designer. Yes. And they have a great, and each guy has, I noticed, each guy has a different color. And it just looks like cool, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. A little bit more intricate there than going to buy 50 black t-shirts. Absolutely. A little different. That's why the two bands are so vast and different. The only thing I really do for wardrobe is push the road cases into a room. And there's two women that kind of deal with the wardrobe.
And they are full on, I don't know, I feel like seamstress isn't quite the word, because it's what they do is they, they're artists, what they can make. Gotcha. So they do with all of their wardrobe, and we'll help them anything they need to, you know, power fails, because they have ivory iron plugged in, like we'll help them out for sure. But with the stones, it's, I mainly take care of dressers.
Unfortunately now, three main band members set up their rooms, and there's, you know, the side musicians and the horns and the singers and stuff. So it's crazy in a different way than Metallica. The stones takes two days to load in, whereas Metallica won't take two days. Why is it just because of the size of the stage or the production or? Well, for dress rooms, I can at least speak for dressing rooms. It's because of the amount of rooms we have.
There's probably, I think we're up to 13 or 14 rooms. We used to be at 17, so we've actually cut back. It's the amount of rooms. And on this one, it is pipe and drape for every single room. Every room has its own theme. So you want to make sure that it's dressed properly and it has the appropriate couch and the appropriate drapery. And yeah, it's very, very different. So explain to people that might not know, like you said the pipe and drape.
I think we can make a joke about that. I remember when I came and saw Metallica, like Madison, Wisconsin, right when Black and whiskey came out, that's what we were laughing about, the pipe and drape. That's what Laura said that on Golden Pond had and that big beard. And I was like, what's wrong with you? You're the representative of heavy metal. You look like Henry Fonda and on Golden Pond. But there was a lot of the pipe and drape set up back there.
So what's the pipe and drape with the stones and what exactly is that? And what does it do where the guys want it? So pipe and drape is, the dresser can start in any venue, it's a locker room. Or it's just a plain boring room with white or beige walls that are probably beat up from some other tour. So we want to mask that and make it look pretty. So we drape every single wall in every room on the stones. So we also put it up in the hallways for privacy when people are walking by the hallway.
So they can't enter a certain area. Pipe and drape is used for ambiance and protection for privacy. So you mentioned some themes. So what does Mick want his dresser? What does Keith want? What does Ronnie want? Because Ronnie is always painting and he's doing the set list. And I mentioned Keith Smokes. So what does each guy require for those rooms? I can't get into too much detail. But I would say everyone knows Keith to the point of he likes pirates. And he likes baggy clothes.
So his room is it looks like him. A little darker and it's got cool statues of skeletons. And just awesome. It's my favorite room. I love it. Lots of candles and lots of, yeah, he's got lots of parade ambiance. Yeah, Ronnie does the set list every night. So his room is very artistic, really. He's got a lot of things in there that inspire him and like hang some drapes over the pipe and drape that just give the room some texture and some color.
And are his painting supplies part of that where you have to get put in every night and set up and everything? Because you got to, people don't understand. And when you see the still ones with 25 trucks of staging and gear, some of that is for this dress room that's get carted in every day. Skeletons or in the trucks going across the country. Well, they're in little skeletons. They're not. They're just little statues. It's, you know, the easel comes in. He has his paints.
He has special markers that kind of look like paint. And he's got kids. And so we'll get little small campuses for the kids to paint and they're really artistic too. So that room is always. It's a lot of fun. That room is. And then what about mix? Make is very. He likes surfaces and. I don't know. There's not a lot of stuff. It's very clean and. Not a lot. He could, he could fit into a smaller room because he just doesn't have a lot of stuff, which is great for me.
Does he do an extensive warm up? Because once again, on stage in November, even though he's 78 or whatever he is, I mean, he still moves. Moves like Jagger. Like he looks great on stage. He sings great. But there's a lot of, you know, even me at 51 on stage as a, as a, as a frontman. I'm always thinking about making. I'm like, I don't know how he does it. It's obviously muscle memory. And. But the cardio is there. Do you ever see him warming up? What is his routine for the day before show?
I do set up a little warm up area for him. I personally have never seen what goes on in there. I know there's music. I think if anything, he, and this is literally just a gas, but he probably just like loosens up his limbs and. Right. You know, which I think a lot of us have to do at our age on 50, your 51, like. Yeah, right. But you're right. Like being on stage from what I understand from his trainer, he trains like that.
So he trains intensely, not just before the show, but, you know, before the whole tour, he'll train. And you know, do serious training for four, five minutes, let's say four, five minutes. And then he'll stop and bring his heart rate down for a minute and then go back. So it's very much interval training, which is why he can sing a song, run across the stage. And then the song ends and he's talking to the crowd and he's not out of breath. He is absolutely incredible the way he can do that.
Absolutely. Yeah. I struggle with that. Yeah. Well, I get that now even resting. How do you do all these things that you do at your age? And I'm like, well, yeah, it's great. But I have a guy that I look up to that you do it in these almost 30 years older than I am. I know, even on my run today, I was starting to die out and I was like, okay. You know what? If I can do it, I can do it. WMD. What would Mick do? Yeah. What is your interactions with the stone?
Do you see them as much as you see, you know, Lars and James and the guys? I see not as much, but definitely I'm always there as soon as they arrive and welcome them to their room kind of thing. And I make sure that they're happy and comfortable. And then I just sort of get out of their way. But I mean, sometimes they'll wander the halls and, you know, Keith will come over to our little dressing room department and hang out and chat and laugh.
Yeah. So we do see them is just not as much as I would see Metallica. It's a long story, but I met Keith at Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy said, if you want to meet Keith, be here at 5 p.m. and I'll introduce you to him at 30 rocks. See you at 4.30. Yeah, yeah. So I went there. We go into his dressing room and, you know, there he is. And like when you first see these guys up close and personal, it's like, oh my God, it's a real man.
But he had this ass tray and Jimmy goes like, hey, we couldn't smell your cigarette smoke. We didn't know if you're in here is like, man, I got this ass tray. You put the cigarette on it sucks to smoke down, man. And I was thinking about my grandma had one of those in like 1978. It's not that big of a deal, Keith. But just the best guy though, man, he's super fun.
And like what you see is what you get with him and all his interviews seems like a pretty jovial cool cat from the half hour that I was around him. Yeah, he's such a great guy. Like he, years ago when I first started touring with them on Valentine's Day, he would make sure all the girls on tour got a massive deal. Got a massive decay of red roses and always a little card that said from Keith. That's cool. It's just so sweet. Yeah, he's really sweet guy. Always looking out for us.
See, but guys, and you know this foster because you've been around for so long, like guys at that level once I mentioned it earlier, like it's hard to find great crew. It really is. So when you find somebody that you want there, you want to make them feel part of the family. Yeah, making them feel wanted and comfortable. It's huge. I mean, it's the same in any work environment I would think. Yeah, of course.
But yeah, like these guys, every once in a while look over and like, oh my god, I got a pinch myself. Like this is who is like talking to me right now. And this is who's sending me flowers. And this is who's, you know, like it's, but yeah, they want to be around people that they like and they have fun with and so do I. So you want to be a marketer. It's easy. You just have to score a ton of leads and figure out a way to turn them all into customers.
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You're at the end of the tour or beginning of the tour or someone's birthday or. I would say they've chilled out a little bit over the years, but the stones used to always have. It wasn't necessarily band related, but the steel guys that build the massive steel stage on the in the festival sites or stadiums. Right. So they're there for about a week. So there was always there's two steel teams that leapfrog each show. And the steel teams would fight with each other to get the best party.
So two big parties would always happen every tour because they had they were there for weeks so they could organize this and that and all the booze and all the food and entertainment. So those parties were epic and amazing, but there's always a tour and party. So let's say a week before the tour ends. Absolutely. There's always a party that the band actually arrived to. And yeah, just thank everyone and those are those are pretty epic parties too.
And where would that be like at a restaurant or at a hotel ballroom or. Could be. Could be. Anywhere. Yeah, whatever's available. I remember there was one in Mexico that was. We rented out a whole restaurant and it was such an amazing party. But we've done it in hotels as well. I remember I'm not sure if you were there, but it was in Brisbane at the sound wave. And Metallica had a beginning of tour party where they invited all the bands to go. Yes. Do you remember this? Yeah, it was crazy hot.
It was crazy hot. It was outside. Yeah. And I remember our old drummer was like, is it Metallica is really going to be there? You know, they had big buses to take us. I said, well, no, like Lars told me that everyone's there and he's like, no, as if. And we get off the bus and there's James, creating, hey, how's it going? How's it going?
And it's like just the whole, like Lars had told me that he had put together like a book, someone to put together a book of all the bands, look at pictures to see who's, if he could recognize anybody and just really put a lot of time into making everybody feel welcome. Yeah. You know, at this big giant tour, you know. They do that a lot. Whether it was at the front of a tour or the back end of a tour and they always invite. Any of the openers, if it's a festival, they'll invite all the bands.
We're all like minded people. Yeah. We're all in the entertainment industry. We all have things to talk about. Let's just do it off of stage. Let's just have fun. Like music is fun. Touring is fun. Traveling the world is fun. Yeah. What a great, like I said, what a great gig that you have. So let's talk about how you got these gigs. Like, how did you come into both of these amazing caps? The two biggest bands in the world in so many ways. How did that all come about?
Yeah, it's crazy when I think about it. I was in high school and I just, I had some jobs in Toronto. In Toronto. I just got these local jobs in restaurants. There's dishwashers, a line cook, whatever. And a friend of mine got a job at a catering company. She said you should get some of your job here because they cater all the shows that come through. Toronto. So you can go and see all these concerts. And I was like, oh, that's cool. Right on. Let's do this.
So I got a job there and I was cooking. And I don't know. Like just did that for years. It paid all for university. It was awesome. Went to university thinking I was going to make something on myself and get a real job. But then as soon as university ended, the owner of that catering company got a call from the stones and said, we want to tour with a caterer. Do you have a crew that could come with you? And he called me and I had spoken to him for probably five years.
And he was like, I don't know what you're doing in your life. But hey, do you want to go on tour with the Rolling Stones? I was like, uh, let me think about that. Yes. It was, yeah, pretty crazy. And at the time, my, the house that I was renting, I was renting the top floor of a house. And it had just burned down. Oh. So I had pretty much no clothes. I had nothing. So I was like, I'll have the smallest suitcase ever. I was good to go.
That was the university telling you it was time to go on tour. Totally. So pretty much the stones like gave me my wardrobe. You had stones, shirts, stones, pants, stones socks, stones underwear. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. So you started as a caterer for the stones? Yeah. Yeah, my first tour. I was catering. They rehearsed in Toronto, which they always do, right? Yeah. Or they did at least. I was catering their rehearsal.
And then when we went on tour, I switched over to catering for the crew, which I thought was so awesome because I just got to meet so many people and so many cool people. And it was through meeting all of those guys. As we were saying earlier, it's a small community of roadies. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. And met someone that also worked for Metallica. And she was leaving to go to Metallica after a year of this tour. She was leaving and asked me to go with her.
And she asked me to do dresser rooms with her, which I was shocked. So I'm like, I'm just a caterer. But she said she really likes working with caterers because of the work ethic and the long hours and they just sort of get it. And so I went and all of a sudden learned how to fold clothes and set up couches.
So when you start kind of making inroads with both of those bands, because like you said, like we have people I mentioned every year earlier, she started as merch and then kind of assisted tour manager. And then she's really good at, so she's a tour manager. And she's just a catering person. The more valuable you are, the more skills that you have, the more value you are. So are you doing more just on your own? Like, hey, if you need some help, let me shadow you.
Or they just kind of appoint you. Now you're doing this and now you're doing that. I mean, I've always stayed in the dressing rooms. I haven't really gone towards any production or I did a really, really brief stint of tour management with Van Halen. That was a Canadian tour. Yeah, another one. Another notch in the old belt. But that was only for a month and it was a Canadian tour.
Yeah, I did some tour management, which was really, it was so different because it's kind of like dressing rooms, but it's in the hotel. So it's making sure that the band is cool and comfortable with their hotel room, making sure they have all the needs on that end and then getting them to and from the venue. What was it like to a managing for Van Halen? And it was just one of the raw three union tours? It was. Do you tell? Because I was there for such short time.
They didn't really get to know me. Yeah. And I was feeling in for a friend that was jumping on another tour for a bit. And it's easier sometimes for a Canadian to do the Canadian tour. Right. Do you understand? Yeah. Well, yeah. And I think there's visas and extra costs that goes into hiring someone else. So yeah, I didn't get huge amounts of time with them. I was pretty much dealing with the three guys because David just sort of did his own thing. Oh, really? On his own bus.
Did his, yeah, just did his own thing. Makes his own arrangement sort of thing. Yeah. But the Van Halen's cool to you? Yeah. Yeah. That was a fun tour. That was, I really wanted to continue with them, but then I got the Metallica call. Then you mentioned before you too. You did some time with them. How did that one come about? That was also meeting someone on the Rolling Stones. And it was just rehearsals for, I want to say it was about a month and a half in Vancouver. I was catering.
I was helping a little bit in the dressing room, not much. But it was, yeah, I met a lot of really cool people on that tour as well. So it's just great meeting new people and seeing how different dressing rooms are set up and how different bands tour differently. So what's the difference between like a YouTube dressing room and a Van Halen dressing room? We were asking me to go back 15 years.
I'm just thinking of like, like YouTube would be a little bit more like poetic in Van Halen, a little bit more like Jack Daniels, Rock and Roll. That's the cliches of it, but it's even true or not though, right? I believe they were so over Van Halen at the time. I can't really remember. But I would say YouTube was, yeah, it was more elaborate for sure. And they had a personal chef and they had a dining room that they would be served out and stuff, which is great.
Yeah, Van Halen was just a little bit more rock and roll and just a room is a room who cares. Let's go out there and play. Which is what you would expect, right? Yeah, yeah. What's talk about like when you're a Metallica and the Stoans, etc. And obviously you're going to get a lot of VIPs coming around backstage to hang out. Tell us about some of those encounters of who's been around. Who's big enough to get to go backstage to meet up with the Stoans? You name it. Oh really? Like it's crazy.
Of course, there's a few names that I'd still like let me know if they ever show up. Right. Yeah, I remember Johnny Depp was doing the Pirates of the Caribbean and Keith was playing his dad. Yeah, I mean, especially any New York shows London and LA, there has to be a whole different room to just handle all the celebrities that come through yet. It's pretty crazy.
I think we had that in the Metallica gig in Atlanta, which is probably the last time I'm going to see you, was waiting to meet up with Lars. Actually, it was Lars' assistant, I think. But everybody's kind of in the holding room and they go, oh, there's Greg Nicotero. And there's like whoever's in Atlanta hanging around. Yeah. But do you have to kind of delegate into the guy? Are the guys open to this? Because sometimes it's hard to meet so many people. Like, is there a certain time?
Like, okay, from five to five thirty, that's when we can come say hi. Or how does that kind of go? Yeah. And I think, I can't say for sure, but I think there might be some discussion with like their assistants. So maybe, you know, like mix assistant and someone's celebrity assistant, they get together and they talk. And they'll be like, does Mick have time before the show? Or just keep that time before the show? Like, it's more of that than I would say the band going to a room or being pulled.
I'd say the coolest thing that happened recently was in the fall, the US women's soccer team came through. Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty cool. And the band was told that they were coming. So they were all sort of waiting out in the hallway. Super excited to meet them as well. So it was very like, oh, are they here yet? Are they here yet? We have to go on in ten minutes. Let's go. It was, yeah, it was really cute to see. They're excited.
I don't guess they're, I guess, so they're all in the soccer because they're English. Yeah. Or because it was girls. Yeah. Uh, can't say. Yeah, a little bit of both, right? Yeah. Who knows? What is some of the, like, the major differences that you see? Because obviously the stones are the stones. And Metallica is the biggest rock band or one of the top two or three. Is there a difference in the backstage vibe, a difference in the production, a difference in the audience reactions?
Like, what could you do what do you see between those two bands? There is a difference for sure. I don't know if I could pinpoint it. It's just, it's definitely different vibes. And maybe you nailed it there with, you know, Metallica's rock. And they just have a harder vibe backstage. And the stones are rock and roll blues, a little bit, you know, more mellow. And there's age difference, of course. Yeah. Metallica's still go, go, go.
Whereas the stones are like, I'm going to go for a few months and then we're going to chill. And we're not going to do back to back shows. We're going to do maybe three shows a week. And that comes across, I guess, in the backstage. Like you're not as rushed and you're kind of like chilled a little bit more over there. Right.
But as far as the audience, like every audience, I love watching the beginning of any show because it's just, you see the audience just like they're anticipating and everyone knows like that song. The next song, the band's coming on. Or when you hear, you know, ladies are gentlemen, like, the rollings, stuff. Like, you just see the audience go nuts. But I do have to say there is something special about a Metallica fan. Because it's just you can feel that build up.
And then when the band comes out that absolute explosion is, I'm getting chills just thinking about it. Like they just are so into it. And it's just so amazing to watch. I think for me, like there's something that you mentioned, the drama of Exocie of Gold, which is Metallica's, you know, intro song. And it's a, uh, uh, uh, Rico Morricone, you know, good, bad and ugly, very, you know, orchestrated, uh, classical. But it's very heavy.
Yeah. And I think the way it plays as a fan, you are super like you said, the goose bumps are coming. And I think the difference for me between stones and Metallica's, I grew up with Metallica. Metallica started when I was 13 and I was there from the start. So this is kind of, the stones have always been there, but the stones are a couple generations older.
And when I go to the stones, it's almost like going to, like I'm saying, it's because they're dinosaur, I'm saying like you go to Jurassic Park and see this amazing creature that once, once it goes, you'll never see it again, right? Like there'll never be another rolling stone. It's impossible because the world has changed. And you mentioned like stones 60. Yeah. So that's almost at a different level of Metallica because now it's almost like this legend amongst legends, you know. Yeah, for sure.
Can't snub your nose there at Metallica at 40, that's amazing. No, I agree. I love the fact that Metallica fans, you always think, oh, they got to be our age because we did grow up with them. Yeah, yeah. But it's so interesting to see the kids because the parents are bringing the kids. Right. These younger generation Metallica, there's a kid in Toronto that he busks and he plays guitar. And he was always wearing Metallica hat and he's got to be like 14 years old.
I see him on Instagram and I'm like, what the hell? The Metallica fans are getting younger and younger. Like they're not going anywhere. And the stones, you do look out and they are a little, little aged. There is multi generations at Stone's gigs too, though. Absolutely. I think, like I noticed in Atlanta that there's a lot of, a lot of girls at the show.
And I think going to the stones is almost like going, it's like some kind of prestigious, you know, going to see like, you know, a variety if you were still alive like her Andre Bocelli. Even if you're not into the tunes, just going is like a night out on the town. It's, you know what I mean? It's something cool or whatever. Yeah, I've taken friends to Stone's shows before and they're like, yeah, I know the stones. I think one of them, you know, she's like in the audience and then listening.
Oh my God, they sing this. Yeah. Oh my God, this is them too. I didn't know that. Like just shocked that she knew so many stone songs. Like, they've been around a while. They've written a couple catchy tunes. Couple toe tapers. Yeah. We mentioned Charlie before and how he recently passed away in the band continued on. Can you tell us a little bit about your interactions with him and seems to kind of the, the consummate rock and roll gentlemen and obviously largely miss.
But from your personal side of things and how did that affect the stones, especially the three guys going forward. Yeah, that was a tough day. It was a tough day. We knew it was coming. DJ, OK. But it was like anything like it doesn't really hit you till it happens. Right. Yeah, when it happened, it was we were at rehearsals and rehearsals were canceled and the crew sort of got together at our hotel. And we bought some champagne and popped it. Had a few glasses and just told Charlie stories.
And it was such a nice way to sort of remember him. As you say, it was a constant, wonderful, it was a gentleman down to the core. Like he'd walk into the venue and he's dressed perfectly. He'd go, he'd say hello to everyone and then he'd go right into his dressing room. He'd get ready for the show and then he'd come back out and he'd continue to talk to people walk around. He loved hanging out wardrobe and he'd get a little espresso and he was such a fantastic guy.
I feel like we had a bit of a connection. He's pescatarian. I was pescatarian. Yeah, he actually asked me about my nickname once because he always calls me Heva. He was like, what's this foster thing? What is that? That's a horrible accent. So I apologize. That's great. But he asked me about it and I explained it. And then he actually started to call me foster a little bit.
He's just, since a humor was so great, he was such an awesome, awesome guy and definitely will be missed and is missed continually. We've kept a picture of his dressing room sign. We've kept it up on our road cases and every time we open the road case we see it and we're always like, hey Charlie. It's interesting to me that you are kind of, once again, you are a part of the Stone's Intercircle to where you're hearing about this and you said you knew it was coming because the world did not know.
Obviously Steve Jordan was brought in but it was under the auspices that Charlie would return and everything was going to be fine. Well, me knowing was probably like a day and a half, maybe two days. Gotcha. I'm not in that much of the inner circle, but yeah. So when the guys resumed rehearsing, was it sad or the show must go on and kind of tell us about how that was?
Because the show was great and we saw them as Steve Jordan. He definitely was the perfect choice, but obviously it's not Charlie, but the three Mick Keith and Ronnie, I thought did a really good job of paying tribute to him, but still getting on with the rock and roll business of the stones. I think the first show was a little difficult. I think I only, because I'm backstage, I don't really see the shows, but I think there was a moment mixed both to the audience and he got a little choked up.
I never spoke to them about it. I obviously said, you know, I'm sorry and we had that quick bit of a chat, but they were pretty good. They obviously took the day off. They, who knows what they did to remember Charlie and do their own thing, but they came back and they were, they were ready and Steve Jordan. He's just such a good guy and he constantly just wanted to respect every song the way Charlie would and it was such a good group that it was okay to move on even though it was hard as hell.
Right. Charlie was their backbone. I heard an interview with Lars and he said something about you think you're dancing along to Mick. You're actually dancing along to Charlie. He was a big part, big loss. Do you have a favorite Charlie story? Oh gosh. I don't even know. It's so funny because working in dress rooms, I try to add on how I just, because I'm not supposed to talk and I'm not supposed to tell stories.
So when things happen, I kind of put them out of my head and try not to remember them, but I kind of think of what story I told when he did pass in that big crew dinner, but I drink it. I'm drinking, not dinner. I don't even know what it was. There's just so many. I do remember a time, actually. It really nothing to do with me, but I think we were in Poland. His whole family came to visit him and he, I was like hanging out with friends and we went to like the main sort of square.
We were having some beers and all of a sudden you see Charlie and his family walk by and not one person in that very busy square was bothering him. No one was like crowding around him. He could just walk around and blend in and just be the coolest rock star ever. And I think people, even if they did recognize him, they'd be like, oh, that's Charlie. We're gonna let him be by himself and do his thing. Whereas I think if you're Mick or Keith, they're like, oh my God, Mick! Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I actually stole the idea where Mick goes to a city and they post pictures on Instagram of him kind of wandering around and he's always by himself and I'm like, okay, there's like a barricade of guys around him. I'm like, just sure there's nobody around. Like, it's like, Mick's hanging out with the people. He's like, nah, he's probably just taking a picture and like, go, stay back, stay back. You got the picture? Come on, let's go. Who knows? Who knows? The power of Instagram.
Last few questions for you. You mentioned something briefly when we first got on. You said you were looking for a couch for Mick or something all of a sudden. Do you do other work for him outside of the touring? Nope, this is for the upcoming tour. Okay, so you actually have to carry the couches. Yes and no. So we usually have a vendor in Europe. They'll carry the couches so they will be the same at every venue. But because every tour is going back out, everything is just happening this summer.
That vendor has over committed. So we are now going to each individual city to try and find the correct furniture to fit the vibe of each room. Oh, it's a little bit more difficult, but I'm sure it'll happen. It's amazing that I was laughing like last summer when I think it was Motley crew in Deaf Flipper. Like, we're going to postpone the stadium tour for another summer. And the stones are like, oh, really? Hold my beer. We're going out this summer. And it's going to be great. We're going.
Hey, it happened. Last year we did it. It was amazing. Yeah. Absolutely was amazing. I want to know on eat with each band, when did you get in the most trouble where you did something where they got mad at you? Are you screwed something up? Well, unless you never have. No, I'm perfect. Nothing's ever gone wrong. Have you ever gotten in trouble? Well, no one really yells or I don't think I've actually ever gotten in trouble, but has someone said, like, why isn't this here or where is that?
And I'll just be like, oh, my God, I forgot to put it out. I'll go get it. Yeah. But I don't think I've actually messed up horribly that I've been yelled at. I guess that's a good thing. That's a very good thing. So all the toothpaste is in the rooms and all the deodorant and the cheese pizzas and everything worked out good. Exactly. Exactly. All right, last question is for you.
Favorite city that you like to go to because you've been around the world with both bands and both bands are internationally huge and two or probably 50, 60 countries over the years that you've been out. Because you've been out since at least 2011, probably before that. When did you start? I started touring in 2002. With stones? Stones. And the Metallica's started was 2003. Gotcha. So it's like 20 years now. So you've had some pretty cool places and on yours. I've been some places.
On your Instagram. You like posting different structures and... Yes. I do like photography, but I don't like to put myself in the photography. Is that Jordy Foster? Yeah, I don't want to confuse people. Is there a certain place you like to go? Yeah. I love Japan. I love going every time I hear there's a possibility. I just all of a sudden get excited. Yeah. But they got to say the coolest place I've ever been. It was with Metallica.
It was Antarctica. Yeah. Getting on a boat, going across the Drake during pretty much a hurricane, and then getting down to Antarctica and hanging out with the penguins. It was just... It was someplace that I honestly never thought I would ever go. This is when Metallica went to do a show there because I think it was a combination they wanted to play all seven continents in a year or whatever it was.
Tell us about that show because it was a different type of show where they played outside, but they played in headphones, because you couldn't disturb the animals and that sort of thing. Yeah, you can't disturb the environment at all. So it was in a dome. It was a clear dome. Everyone had headphones on and pretty much throughout the whole show because I took them on and off all the time. Because I sort of had to stay there with Lars. Every time I took them off, all you could hear were the drums.
Nothing else. You just hear the drums. The very cool thing was that he looked behind because the dome was clear and the penguins were just waddling up. What's going on here? It was so weird. This is what's interesting you. Sure. That's what Robert was telling me. He mentioned that because there's no humans, the penguins are just wandering up and up and not scared or worried or hanging out. Let's go up with you guys. It's pretty cool down there. No other band has ever played Antarctica.
Not that I'm aware of, but no. I'm also assuming that the whole crew wasn't there once again. You're one of the important crew that foster has to be here. Yeah, it was well skeleton crew. It was definitely backline guys sound. I don't even know if there was lighting there because it was. Yeah, I was so excited. 23 hours a day. That's pretty killer. It must make you feel pretty cool that you're kind of in that position with that band. You're not going anywhere.
Well, never say never, but yeah, I'm very, very fortunate. I work hard every day to make sure that that's the way it is. I never take anything for granted because you just never know. Look at the past two years. All of a sudden, anything can happen. It must have been, I know it was weird for me after being on the road for almost 30 years. And then you're home for six months or eight months. I mean, it was a little bit nuts. Yeah, I went a little crazy. Hey, last question for you.
What's your favorite Metallica song and what's your favorite stone song? Oh, oh, oh, oh, interesting. I want to say just today, as I was finishing my run for whom the bell tolls is like, I don't know. There's something about it. Yeah, every time I'm walking in the barricade and that song comes on all the fans. I'm sure it can see me because I start doing the drumming that did it. I don't know. I love that song so much. Creeping death. I mean, there's so many. Wow, the stones again.
The catalog is just. It's crazy. Ridiculous. But I look bitch. I like. You start me up. I got to say it's pretty good because every time start me up comes on and it's the first song of the show. It means I can start tearing down the dressing rooms. Oh, so I'm always like, oh, you start me up. Cool. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. It's great talking to you. This has been awesome.
Like I said, I'm planning on coming to London for the Hyde Park show, which you won't be there, which is the third time that's happened. I know. I went to two stone shows and you were with Metallica. I went to one Metallica show and you were with the stone. So one of these days, I don't know how that could have happened because I have to meet with the stones or I have to meet with Metallica. Louisville. They played larger than life. Just this summer. I was there.
Oh, you guys were bubbled though. That's why we were talking you were bubbled. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, I was trying to get you on the stage and it was, yeah. Yeah, and Lars was like, well, you got to get better seats. I'm like, you're on in 10 minutes, dude. Don't worry about it. So you got to stand over here. Like, are you okay? And I was like, it's fine. It's cool. So I just waved everybody from the state from the area there.
But hopefully we'll get a chance to see you again soon and not be in such a bubble. I know. Yeah, for sure. But say hi to all of the prom dates for me. Yeah. Toronto crew. Yeah. And hopefully we'll see you on the road soon. Yeah, absolutely, man. Very cool. Thank you. All right. Yeah.