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Hey very good morning to you. Welcome to Talk. Tuesday, the third of March, the home of Common Sense and the Home of Alarm Clock Brits. Uh the continuing story, of course, the situation in Iran. Whatever your views, whatever your thoughts. Uh we want you involved in the show as ever this morning. O three double four uh four double nine one thousand Damien is here, uh Christian is here, Big M is here, Nahar is here, the gang are here, they want you cool. Uh you can send a voice note

Uh you can make a live call, it's not a problem, O three double four four double nine one thousand and your text to eight seven treble two. What are you waking up to? Every single newspaper naturally covered a story and covering a story that is dominating Trump overnight. in an exclusive with the Daily Telegraph says I'm very disappointed in Starmarov's position on Iran and the Pentagon.

the Prime Minister as a hand wringing and pearl clutching to anyway. Uh meanwhile, uh Cammy Badenock not Badanock, she's a night, there's no bad in her name, uh says Starmer is scared of his own voters. I'd love your opinions. Did he step back from

from being with our number one ally for fear of upsetting certain voters. So much of what Starmer does is is is totally motivated by focus groups. Was it that? Do you believe he made the right decision? Do you believe he made the wrong decision? Should we have been front and centre? The fallout from this whole situation of course is is also being felt not only in terms of strategic military fallback but also in this country today. Uh Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rachel from account

Facing calls to axe the five P fuel duty hike because of spring statements today. That was supposed to be a hike. Everybody was up in arms, but if you go out and about, and we'd love to hear from your wife rame me last night, cues at petrol stations the length and breadth of this country. Fairs of massive

prices rising, linked to of course that war. Uh some forecourts already reporting they are running dry. And of course you mention that and everybody gets there and all that. What what's your situation and thoughts on the petrol? Have you have you filled up because you think it makes sense? Are you worried about that? Um, there's a couple of stories during the rounds that just honestly um MPs demand there should be a ban on marches linked to the Iranian regime in London. Couldn't agree more.

Uh we heard overnight as well that the University College of London's Islamic society uh mourned the death of the Ayatollah. The group hit back at criticism comparing her mainly to the Pope, alongside a number of videos basically eulogising uh him. Uh the a man who raped, murdered, killed and sponsored terrorism across the world. The University College of London's Islamic Society deserve a mention this morning. Or don't they? And also, I was saying earlier to somebody in the office

My kids they've never experienced before and they're saying, What's happening? What's the reality of what's going on in the world? Um we learned yesterday that sleeper cells probably already are in Britain. Former head of the armed forces, Lord Dannett, told us that. Um this morning I wanted to go still further. We're going to speak to the former head of MI6, Sir Richard Deerlove, to find out the reality. What what is what is the threat?

If you mention it, people say don't talk about it. If you don't, they wonder what it is. Let's just be real and put it out there. What is the truth? O three double four, four double nine, one thousand. That is the story that is dominating, but my God, is there another story as well overnight? My lord. Um

I'm gonna show you the Clintons throughout this show like you have never seen them before. Both of them of course uh called to the Epstein Deposition over the weekend. Um Hillary literally throws the toys out of a pram, not not interested in it at all. You can all shove it where the sun don't shine. And Bill, whose voice was slightly croaky, uh getting knots uh being quizzed about flight attendants in tank tops and jeans. It's extraordinary footage. we will show you

Uh we're gonna start this morning uh w with an MP, I'll tell you in a minute, but they've all th they they're getting a pay rise to a hundred and ten thousand pounds a year. Do you think they deserve it? Uh oh three double four four double nine one thousand. I walked in this morning, I could see Christian in the distance. executive producer and I walk past the Chris Evans Breakfast Show, which is extraordinary, I'm virgin, from six thirty. That man this morning is interviewing Kurt Russell.

I've got Matt Vickers. I mean, what in the name of Sweet J what happens to my life? What happens to my Kurt even Christian, I think I'm gonna get a picture this morning when Matt Vickers he went, This is never ridiculous, Kurt Russell. How's my app?

Uh yeah, well you know, do you know what I mean? Maybe if you were Kurt Russell you could have actually got a girlfriend, you know. So uh Matt Vickers, deputy leader of the Conservative. No, deputy chairman. Deputy Chairman, yeah. Is that more important than is there a deputy chairman? Well maybe next week, who knows? Uh how are you my friend?

All good, all good, yeah. Firing all cylinders. I just wanna uh I just wanna start with front page of the mail, front page of most patients. I'd like to get your view as a Tory. US Lambast's hand wringing pearl clutching stama, as Kemi says He's scared of his own voters. Thoughts on this whole crisis situation? We've been

We've never seen this sort of a thing going on with the US before where we aren't in lockstep with them, where we aren't ready to support them. Even the hesitation about using our own bases. At the weekend he waited, he held back. Uh people will argue that part of the problem is the fact that His i his electorate and the blocks of people that vote for him have very different views on some of these issues. They aren't necessarily

the the support of our national interests but they're more concerned about some of the things going on in the Middle East. You're talking about the Muslim vote. We saw what went in Moton.

A some of his electors think like that and therefore some of his MPs are very concerned about what those electors might think. This is a disaster. This is a d indecisive Prime Minister who's failing to stand up for our country, who's failing to maintain The relationship with the US that we've relied on to keep us safe.

For generations. No, it is scary and I I really want to investigate this because Kevin did say, you know, he's scared of his own voters. And I and I understand you're a you know you you you're an MP and you speak you know, i in all of those ways you're concentrating on what's right to say but but

The truth is he has played to a part of the electorate. That is a Muslim we saw that in Gorton and Denton. We talked about the sectarian vote. But I want to go beyond that. I mean y I I was reading uh I didn't even tell Christian this last night. At the weekend he was asked by Trump and he went no, but he didn't say no until that odious human being Lord Hermer, the Attorney General, his old human rights colleague.

had literally come up with this and I'd love to know Peeps what you think about this this morning. Get those voice notes in. Lord Hermer said there is no justification for saying that doing that does not break international law. And I want to get Hermer and Zack Polanski, honestly by the time

scruffer the neck and go w how do you justify to the people who lost kids in the Manchester bombings? How do you justify to people what is what did the d uh the the Defence Secretary John Healy said yesterday? There are twenty terror plots that have been foiled in the last year or so on UK soil. By terrorist groups, sponsored by the the mad mullahs of Iran. What is Starmer's w where does his brain work or not work, mate? I don't get it. Funding terrorism. Yes. Uh

Ultimately a ridiculous threat to us, repressing its own people. It's willing to kill tens of thousands of its own people for for standing up to it. These are people you can't allow. What do you say to the people who say it's not our business? We can't afford it. We shouldn't be involved. It's our business the minute those people get their hands on any sort of nuclear weapon. It's our business now. It it it of course it's our business. We look at them funding terrorists.

that are attacking us, that are a threat to us, that we're having to to watch over our shoulder all the time. You see, I listen to you and I absolutely buy. I watched some of the output you said, but it's ten past six in the morning, right?

Alarm clock Brits. This is our Prime Minister yesterday saying, Well I disagree with Trump. Uh here you go, Sakir Starmer. Great. President Trump has expressed his disagreement with our decision not to get involved in the initial strike. But it is my duty to judge what is in Britain's national interest. That is what I've got.

And I stand by it. Britain's national interest, you explain, you're an MP, you were in the House. Utterly ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous. I mean Britain's national interest is about protecting ourselves, not having a lot of MPs who are scared to death of their own electors and what they're gonna think about it. People who are thinking more about what goes on in the Middle East

than what we need to do to protect ourselves is actually terrifying. That we I mean, we know he's incompetent, we know he's doing a d a terrible job of running our economy. We know it's costing people their jobs. But now he's putting our national security at threat, failing to act

Failing to maintain that relationship with the US, it's a car crash, uh it's a disaster and for all the reasons there is to remove him, this is probably the biggest one. Really? The the defence of our own our own people, our own I'm I'm o I'm not doing this bec I'm trying to do it as balanced as I can this morning'cause I would be further than you on this. But

What do you say to the people who say we shouldn't be in lockstep with the United States? Why should we dance to their tune? But the truth is, can I just add a caveat? Every time we've ever been in trouble we click our fingers and they're there for us. So I'd love to see if it was the boot was on the other foot because of his action, Starmer. When when when the when the poop hits the fan they're the people we call.

They're the people we've always called. We need that relationship. Yeah. It is the one thing that gives us an anchor, whether it's on trade, whatever it might be. We've always been able to rely on them and they should be able to rely on us. Uh beyond that we we we go alone in the world and we take all the risks and the challenges that come at us. Particularly when we're failing to invest in defence.

Every day we open the newspapers we kn hear another story. You're in a slightly dangerous position on that though, aren't you? It was only during the i it was only during the general election that Rishi Sunat with respect two weeks out I was there, said, We're going to raise GDP on defence. I'm not blaming just I'm not just blaming the Tory. I'm I felt I will go back to Cameron, Osborne, May But the reality is for decades everybody has been saying oh we're living in a much more dangerous world

Open the bloody papers. E every week we open it and there is something else on our periphery. We look out to the city. I think defence secrets have let us down forever and and I genuinely mean that. I think loads of responses morning. O three double four four double nine one thousand, text two eight seven Trouble two.

Uh me and the man they call Matt Vickers, my own ru Kurt Russell. No. Morning Jeff, we shall negotiate on the beaches, we shall negotiate on the landing grounds, we shall negotiate in the fields and in the streets, we shall negotiate in the hills. We shall never Stop negotiating. That about sums it up. Uh hello to Reg. Jez I was always under the impression that if an enemy attack NATO members on NATO territory, the whole of NATO, Article five.

would become involved. Why after drones hitting Cypress Matty yesterday didn't everybody jump up? Exactly so. Exactly so. Uh th It's a black and white case. We've got to get on with it. These people pose a threat to us. We're now seeing them fire off missiles left, right and centre. Of course we need to get on with it. Of course we need to get on with it. Uh Cindy, good morning. Good morning, Jeremy. This is Cindy in Michigan, United States.

I think Starmer should have been backing Trump and shame on Starmer. I think he's scared of the Muslim vote. Thanks, have a good show. Uh thank you very much indeed. Hello to Billin Rumsby, JK Matty, after the last three or four days listening, watching Starmer's behaviour, all his decisions and then the videos of Reeves, I've come to the conclusion I genuinely believe they are governed by the Muslim vote.

Kate Heiter, loads of response this morning. Jez Matty, a thought no one is talking about. If there is regime change, what happens to the supporters of the Ayatollah? Where will they go? I think we might hazard a guess.

It's an interesting one. The other criticism and I want to put both sides because it's really important is the people who go Well it's all well and good to wade in with respect. You've done it before in Afghanistan and Vietnam and everywhere and then you y you disappear and you leave a mess.

You can only do so th the the Iranian people have to be on board with this. And if you look at some of the demonstrations, millions of people taking the streets, they're very supportive of what's happened. Millions of people taking the streets when they face that threat as well. Those people those millions of people when they got on the streets.

knew they were taking their lives in their hands and they were still willing to stand up and do it and you know what, full strength of them. Um Jez, Matt, I think Starmer is more scared of upsetting his mates in China, just saying, says Jeanette and Essex. Uh this is this is quite a scary test. Matt Vickers, you look amazing today. Who needs Kurt Russell? Chris Evans might have Kurt Russell, but I'm very happy to have Matt Vickers. And do you know the name of the person that sent that?

Liam. Brilliant. Mark, I'm loving love. Mark, uh, Jez, sadly our UK forces have been running to the ground but we should be providing whatever support we can. For too long this threat from Iran under different guises has hung over the whole of the world, us and others. Let's hope the US industries will get this done. Sod international law, says Mark McCroyden. The reality is international law was meant to protect us.

It's only protecting the bad guys now. The only people it is helping is the bad guys. And they only ever dole it out when they y you're completely right, but I'll tell you something I can categorically tell everybody, there is not a cat in hell's chance when all is said and done. that the Chagos Island deal will be approved by President uh d b uh Trump now. That that is dead in the water.

A m uh We shouldn't have to wait for Trump to stand up to Starmer in order for us to protect our own national interests and stop dolling out money and making ridiculous decisions. Actually moment, where the PM stands up to the US bully, sadly the reality is different. Starmer has just trashed eighty five years of a successful friendship. The US

especially its military will never trust us again. Christina, I am so ashamed of our government. I just hope the Americans know the majority of us don't support Starmer and his dangerous cohorts. Jez mourning, our armed forces are so depleted and weak at this moment. Everyone thought this, now everyone knows it. We should be standing shoulder to shoulder with our American allies at every step of the way. This will come back to bite us tenfold.

Starmer is the weakest man I've ever known. This is unbelievable response. Sher Sean in in Gloucester. We are now actually seeing how Keith Starling is putting us in very real danger, which is what you said, Matty, in the effect. of upsetting and lying to our allies. British territory gets bombed in Cyprus. And still he doesn't do anything apart from trying to appease his Muslim votes.

via focus groups. You can't disagree with that, can you? Not in a million years. It is utterly insane. We put a man in number ten, responsible for looking after our interests, responsible for making sure we as a country are kept safe and he doesn't have the the

Aspine to do it. Uh Robert in Chiswick, I hope you read this before the nine PM watershed finishes. Why is Tharmer such an ass? What is he saying? Britain has to wait for a Pearl Harbor or a nine eleven instance to happen to just have cause to go to war?

Do we the public have to be slaughtered before this idiot gets a backbone? And I think a lot of people I mean, I heard stuff yesterday and they're all going, Oh, you know, it's really dangerous, Zach Polansky. Go and have a wash. You know, it's dangerous d all these people Go and speak, as I've said already this morning to the to the to victims of of terrorism in this country. Go and speak. Go to Starmer what was it Zach Polansky said yesterday? The United States is a rogue state.

I I I hate to say the wrong thing,'cause I'm British through and through. I'm sorry to the reality is we wouldn't be where we are without our American allies. We wouldn't and we would but that doesn't mean we have to kowtow. But I've always do you know there's one vision, one image that still gets me about When Starmer had just been made prime minister and he met with the

I think it was Mar a Lago and he met Trump. I bet you know what I'm talking about. And they walked out to face the cameras and Trump had I think one of his tariff things and some paper fell and Starmer dropped to his knees and picked the paper up from some some sort of whipping boy and I just think that Trump has got him by the absolute short and curlies. It's uh it's frightening, I really do. Oh you've got it on screen. Look watch this. Here you go.

Uh, it's a lovely day here. Beautiful day, beautiful day. Come here, little man with your glasses. I'm opening my file. I hope you're all here. Look, I'm gonna show you what I'm gonna do. If you're not what it is Oh piece of paper's fall you get down there, come on there you go. You pick it up for daddy and give it back.

Heaps smiling. I just I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. That's Britain's representative to the world. I mean the least inspiring man you've ever met. But actually the biggest threat to our national security now is probably Starmer and Hermer in their interpretation of international law to do anything possible to harm our own interests. We've seen it with the veterans.

You know. It it it it is stunning that these people running our country appear to do everything they possibly can to undermine twenty past six. Th there's a lot that winds me up. the lack of a an inquiry into the child the rape gangs is beyond comprehension to me. His response to this but honestly I'm gonna say d Thank you very much indeed for donning your uniform and putting yourself in

Mortal danger all those years ago in Northern Ireland. But what we're gonna do he is an arse, you see, you've wound me up at twenty past six. You sit in your house on a poxy little pension worrying about whether you can pay your bills and eat, but you fought for your country.

But just wait'cause there's gonna be a knock on the door in a minute and you're gonna be prosecuted for something you were told to do thirty years ago and just to make you feel better this morning, the IRA are gonna get immunity. That sorry, sums up Keostarmer completely. It is disgusting. It's bad for your blood pressure this, isn't it? It's not good at all. I think when you think of in the care home in the care home, waiting for the knock at the door.

Horrendous. What does it say to the next generation who we are now asking to join our armed forces? Nobody will want. But the guys who went before them their lives at risk have been let down by this country. Here's a good point from Mandy. Not that one.

Uh, good morning. How embarrassing for the king now when he has to visit the United States of America in April. Now he has a you know, Trump loves the the royal family, but I mean it's absolutely Oh uh yeah, we'll do that in a minute. Steve wants to talk about MP's pay. Twenty past six.

Everything to do with Iran. Uh listen, um Trump uh very disappointed as the US lambast, the hand wringing pearl clutching starmer. Kami Baylonot says he's scared of his own uh voters, the front of the Sun newspaper. In action this day, PM won't back Iran, rift grows with over with over US President. Uh you're waking up to the news that Donald Trump is very look at this.

I'm very disappointed. Front of the telegraph. Very disappointed in Starmer over his position on Iran. Uh the mail says, uh hand wringing, pearl clutching Starmer. The Pentagon's not happy at all. Uh listen, I I'm open minded. Say what you want. Most of us think uh with a brain that whatever Donald Trump might or might not be, he's done something to rid the world of quite o possibly the most heinous ruler ever. Let's just remind ourselves for all those people going, Ooh, oh

The Ayatollah Hamani killed fifty thousand of his own people in the last twelve months simply because they disagreed with him. He has sponsored every terrorist group. The length and breadth of the world. Let me give you Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, it Isis. I say to every Zak Polanskian hand wringing wet Go and speak to the parents of the girls and boys who were blown to smithereen. Excuse my my there's a reason for this, right? At the Manchester bomb. That is what

Iran has done, right? And for Starmer I think, Matty, to go, Well, you know, it's not my responsibility. If there are sleeper cells in this country and if there are recriminations He has it to h it's on him. One million percent it's on him. If not now when? Do you wait and you just allow these terrorist attacks to carry on? Do you wait until he kills tens of thousands more of his own people? Do you just wait until he gets the nuclear weapon and

Blows out of us. I mean what point do you do it if not if not when the US is going in? If we're not willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with them, when would you do anything to prevent this threat to the lives of people across this country? When would you bother? Completely agree, Steve. Good morning.

What a Jez eh. Acting in the country's interest or national interest, yeah, pull the other one, Keith. Absolutely full of it that guy. He's got more neck than a giraffe, hasn't he? He's unbelievable, he just panders to the uh Muslim boat, it panders to uh his left knees. He's just so wet, he's wetter than Stevie Wonder's toilet seat that boy. He just needs to go.

Morning, I don't quite know what to say about that. We're gonna cross to Nashville, Tennessee and say a very good morning to Steve Gill, former adviser to the Clinton and Bush administrations. Steve, good morning, how are you? Hi guys, how are you? Uh first of all I'd like to embarras uh apologize for our embarrassing Prime Minister. I've lots to ask you. Let's start with the situation. Um Let me I'll just start out by saying I thought of dead physically. I think Stormer is dead uh

certainly f uh politically and he is dead to Trump, I can guarantee you that. Really? No, but this is really interesting because a lot of what we do I'm not surprised. I mean people will say to me, Oh, you know, you you make all these excuses. No I don't. History will show us that Matt Vickers is here, uh, deputy chairman of the Tory Party hi history will show us, Stevie, that

Your country has always been there when we've needed them. Now there will be the lefties who will go, Ooh, ooh, this isn't our business. It's the world's business because of what Iran was. I'm interested in what you just said. Uh the Chagos Islands, Gibb all of th Donald Trump will not forget Starmer letting him down, will he?

Absolutely not. I think the only people who may be ranked lower than than uh the UK right now would be uh Spain. Uh and and not only the kind of waffling of are we in, are we out like we got from Starmer in France, but I think Spain you know saying, Now get your planes out of here. Why should the US continue to back NATO and to back these nations when it came time to back the US?

And they're not there and that's what Trump's been saying. You know, NATO won't be there when we need them. And you have Spain who just proved it. France who, you know, seems to approved it and uh Keir Starmer in the UK. showing that while you're demanding assistance in Ukraine, you won't step up to prevent a real threat. I mean keep in mind you were talking about the nuclear threat. What about the ballistic missile threat that they were continuing to develop? Weapons that can reach

reach London uh and and are not something you know down the road maybe uh you know you'll have Russia invade you know Berlin and Paris and London. These missiles, these ballistic missiles that they were developing can and would reach London.

I I listen, I I once got thrown out of a university lecture in history for saying that um however much I have always been massively proud of the British Armed Forces. We wouldn't have won the Second World War without the Americans. Sure they came in when they came in, but it's a fact and that special relationship although we have an administration Steve here that runs on uh apparently international law, an international law that that they use to suit them. Um

Fascinating Matt quickly to bring you in. Steve Gill, former advisor to the Cl Clinton and Bush administration, saying that Trump will be done with Starmer over this. The American people looking at the UK now, looking at this this this nation that they used to love, uh letting them down when it when when when when it matters most, they're looking at the whole Andrew Mountbatten wins the stuff.

this this treasured uh monarchy that we used to have that the Americans used to fall in love with. We what view are we presenting to the world? We send out Kia Starmer as a representative. of this nation, the least inspiring man ever to be met, and now we're letting down the most important partners that we have. What I've said I agree what I've said, Steve, for day for the last two days is is Nobody likes war. We have all the leftist apologists.

ringing this station and saying, It's awful. Yes it is. But I also want to say to those nobody likes war. Nobody. Let's just get real. We're all of an age where we've seen it before, but let's get real. This man murdered, raped, pillaged and destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands of his own people and he has sponsored every terrorist

cell known across the world and killed people from every single country. Israel and America are prepared to do something about it, whilst my Prime Minister, he's not my Prime Minister, wrings his hands. I would like to put one thing to you, Steve, which I think is a justifiable question. Um lots of people, although supportive of America, would be concerned naturally about what happens after the bombing, what happens after

certain infrastructure and pol political figures are taken out. Because their history has shown us you talk Afghanistan, we talk Vietnam, there's always this sort of vacuum. What what's your opinion on that, my friend?

Well, first of all, while you know the administration is making it clear that they have three priorities stop Iran from getting nukes, stop Iran from continuing the development of their ballistic missiles and and ballistic weaponry and and to stop their interference around the world. supporting and backing and funding terrorism, that regime change is is not really the intent, but it will certainly be a byproduct.

The problem, and as you guys have observed as well, when we do regime change as the US, we tend to replace bad guys with worse guys. And I think that's the concern here and that we've seen uh uh a around the Oh got it man. Got it. Oh he's back.

We still don't understand the the the baked beans for breakfast, but we love you guys. Yeah. No li I just it just it just infuriates me. I d I d I just I just get embarrassed. However Uh let's move it from Iran to the other big news story'cause this is this is goddamn huge, Steve Boy. Um Hilary and Bill summoned to this Epstein deposition.

Um and now, uh after a weekend of him shuffling and her getting angry, there are some amazing clips and you won't mind me playing a couple. You're former advisor to Clinton and Bush administrations. Uh this clip, ladies and gentlemen, please be on YouTube. If not, have a listen, just pin back your luggage. Uh this is Hillary Clinton storming out of the deposition. Play it please, play it.

have asked for a public hearing. If there are photos that are being released of the secretary as she is testifying, can you please explain how that's done with this. If you guys are doing that, I am done. You can hold me in contempt from now until the cows come home. This is just typical behavior. We will go all directly. Oh for heaven's. So I would like to understand how that permissible before the hearing was It doesn't matter. We all were abiding by the same rules.

Yeah. I would like to take a break at this moment. I would like to have a for now. Go off the record. You know, the only thing she didn't do is throw a lamp like she did at uh Bill Clinton's head at one point. By the way, I was an international trade I worked for the US trade representative. I was not one of their personal advisors by any stretch, but

I I gotta tell you that you know, she's upset by her picture being released, but wasn't upset by all the pictures apparently of Bill in a hot tub with underage girls, Bill on airplanes with underage girls, and then I don't know if you saw the clip of of his deposition where he's looking at some of the photographs that they had in front of him and he's kind of chuckling and and nodding and smiling with

Fond remembrance of those days. Uh well I'm gonna play the clip of of uh of Bill Clinton in his deposition. This is about flight attendance. Have a watch, have a listen. This is the same. What did happen, Mr President? I don't know. I mean I didn't uh I've already told you the thoughts all again. I never saw anybody do anything wrong. I thought they were flight attendants. Do flight attendants typically wear tank tops and jeans?

They don't all wear uniforms on private planes. Yes, sir. Um most are dressed probably pretty business class. Uh, shaking like a a dog there, Steve. Um d d is this story gripping America? The Clintons? I mean Trump has also been named five million times, it's already destroyed well, uh a part of our monarchy over here. I mean this Epstein story.

just will not go away at all. Do you believe it'll bring down certain big names in the US? You know, I think that the they're they're kind of getting own goals because every time more of this stuff gets released it hits another big dog Democrat donor, big dog democrat, big you know, financier. Uh and again there was a reason they called it the Lolita Express and I don't think it was because the flight attendants We're dressing uh in in come hither attire.

Uh yeah. It is attracting attention and and the reference to to oh Donald Trump's been mentioned five million times. What the Democrats did is they googled the word Donald and it popped up like five million times. Not Donald Trump and yet even Bill Clinton in a rare moment of

I I I don't know that Donald Trump ever had anything to do with this. All of the girls, every piece of evidence, you know, exonerates him and yet the Democrats keep pushing for more that keeps nailing them, their funders, their donors. Uh and again when we look uh across uh the pond. You know, we thought Prince Andrew was the was the big deal, but uh man it keeps like it keeps reaching into this

Starmer administration now as well. Um there's one more I've got to play you, sorry, the one for the road I'm gonna call it Stevie Gill. Uh this is Bill Clinton asked if he likes some young ladies and gentlemen, whatever, whatever listen. Uh you quote, like them young. Why would Epstein say that about you? Are you asking his opinion?

You're asking him to act about why Mr. Epstein would say something about him. She's asking me to try to be in Mr. Epstein's mind and guess at what Mr. Epstein would have thought about Clinton likes them young, referring to girls. İzlediğiniz için teşekkür ederim. Interest in underage. I didn't say underage, I said I said young. But it's still not true. Ooh Steve, not great, is it bashful Bill there?

The best is that he brought back that uh Bill Clinton voice that we know so well. I did not have sex with that woman. Uh and then he gave us the what is is. definition is well he went beyond what his is to I didn't see what I didn't see and I don't know what you can see if you don't see what you don't see.

I I mean the the guy was off the charts and and I it was Kamala Harris word salad time in that deposition from time to time. Unbelievable. Listen, we'd love to have you regularly, mate. We so appreciate you being part. Just to to finish up one final question going back to Iran.

Majority of America behind Trump or against him, power? I think behind him at this point, if there's an attempt to put boots on the ground, I think that's where he loses ground, but I don't think that's the intent. I don't think that's gonna be necessary. Uh and I think if uh Iran continues to attack their neighbors, attack others.

Iran uh is at risk of becoming I was. Brilliant. Love to have you on, mate. Thank you so much indeed. Ste Steve Gill uh used to work in the Clinton and Bush administration Kyle Breakfast.

Talk. Uh ex leader of course of Um uh the the security services is gonna tell us about the reality. So if you're Starmer, you're thinking right. Um I've been asked to do that. I'm sort of against war. I might upset a per s a portion of my vote that the the Muslim vote the Greens have taken.

So I've got to be very careful there. Oh God, what if I don't do anything and then a sleeper cell creates a terrorist attack in the United Kingdom? Then it's gonna be on me. You wanted the job, you out of depth idiot. O three double four, four double nine one thousand. Uh let's cross to the United States of America. We'll go to Washington DC. Uh the sun's editor at large, or large editor of a good friend of mine, uh Harry Cole, good morning.

Good morning, Jeremy. Well very very good morning from the uh Washington Easy. It's two AM here. Is it? Well d can I just ask you, well d you've got to put the hours in. Come on, Carl, you spend less time in the bar and in the restaurant. Um I I I just had Kinsey on, uh I had Steve Gill on. Uh both were saying that um the United Kingdom will not be seen in the same light by Donald Trump after this.

Well, well, well, Jeremy, I can exclusively reveal I have just interviewed President Trump himself. Um speaking from the White House uh on the telephone a few hours ago, he has launched an astonishing blast on Keir Starmer. He has suggested that Perhaps he's pandering to Muslim voters? in his reticence to join the American war. in Iran, blocking those bases as we were just discussing the other day.

He has said that, you know, Keir Starmer has to stop letting in people who hate Britain into our country. It is a well, a fairly grim assessment from the President about the state of the special relationship. It's safe to say he is raging. Um he heaped praise on France, on Germany, on NATO and said Keir's done doing things a bit different. He saw he said he never expected to see this.

from the United Kingdom. He is not a happy president. And and that's an exclusive. That's online with the Sun right now. Go to thesun dot co dot uk, you can read it, it'll be right up there in lights on our website. Uh President Trump speaks to the sun, uh speaks to the people of Britain. He says, I love the people of the UK. The people of the UK will be as disappointed as I am.

in the situation that we find ourselves in. But he basically says that special relationship that's been the cornerstone of Britain's diplomacy for many, many, many, many decades. is in one of its toughest spots for a long time. He points to the Chagos Isles deal. He says, Why is he doing this? It's woke island. It's unnecessary. He just doesn't understand why Britain would do that. Why Britain would turn its back Or one of its closest its closest ally, uh at its time of need.

And yeah, well read it there on the Sun website. It's pretty lively. It's interesting, isn't it? Brilliant, brilliant exclusive, Harry.uk. Uh Donald Trump speaking to the sun, saying what many

Well hundreds, thousands of viewers and listeners to this radio station the last forty eight hours have been saying, You see, Harry, what you've got is you've got the apologists and the hand wringers who will say, Oh, we shouldn't just kowtow to America. We got old Zack Polanski with the teeth saying, you know, it's a rogue state. But all of these people All of these people will not answer the uh the the question that this

The mad mulas of Tehran have sponsored terrorism, even John Healy, our defence secretary Harry, yesterday saying there were twenty plots to kill British people. In my mind, whether I like Donald Trump a hundred percent of the time or not, doesn't matter. This man is doing his best to cleanse the world. Of a madman and yet what do I wake up to this morning, mate?

MPs are demand The University College of London's Islamic Society mourned the death of him and wrote a a video eulogising the supreme leader. We just heard from a viewer saying that in in Manchester tomorrow there's going to be candlelit vigils, man.

It's nuts. It's it is nuts. And the President said to me, he said that nothing is like it used to be. He doesn't recognise Britain anymore. We're living in a different world, he says, and you know, that will chime with uh with your listeners, Jeremy, and some of them are calling you in and sending you voice notes saying exactly that. The President told me it's not a recognisable country. He said, Look at what's happened over there, as in in Britain.

in a period of time it's so different. He says London is very different, a very different place and he you you went after his favourite person in the world to see dance. He's got a terrible, terrible mayor. He says you've let in some terrible people. It's a very different place. It's very, very sad to see. And uh he you know, he said and I said, What do you what is your advice for for for for Keir Starmer, Mr President?

And he said, Stop people pouring into your country from faraway lands and stop people from coming in from foreign lands who hate you. Uh uh d uh it's extraordinary. I mean this is an app this is right off the cuff, this is an exclusive Harry has got with Trump and Trump is saying exactly what we have been saying for the last two days that It's not

Th there are flaws in everything, but I don't think a lot of British people, certainly those on the left, really understand When he came to power, I said it earlier, when he jumped up and down about NATO and everybody went how can you do that? Because he's been paying billions more than the rest of us and it

They we expect America to defend us. Can I show you a clip from Pete Heskiss, the Secretary of War as well? Uh this is brilliant. Watch this. This is what he thinks Astarmer. As we've said since the beginning, capable partners are good partners. Unlike so many of our traditional allies who wring their hands and clutch their pearls, hemming and hawing about the use of force.

I mean damning as well, Harry. Damning. And and that's I mean it couldn't have been clearer who they're talking about there. Peter Heskett is talking about Britain and You know, the President you know he didn't quite he didn't say quite a human and aring, but he made very clear that he thought the French

Have handled this very well. The Germans have handled it, he said they've all been great. He was as you say, the the Ch Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutter, he said he's a great guy. They've all been great. They've all been great other than Keir Starmer. We think Kir's just very different at the moment. He told me that's a direct quote from the President of the United States.

It's extraordinary. Just a quick question for you, mate, and we'll let you go. You've been you done such a great job for for the Saddam for us today. No, of course it's been a long day. We've just spoken to the President of the United States, Harry. It's gonna be better than sitting here with me, Sun. Do you know what I had to deal with this morning, Harry Cole, if you want the reality, I walked into this studio, right?

Uh walks along, I see Chris Evans, the legend, is interviewing Kurt Russell and I've got bloody Matt Vickers, deputy chairman of the Tory party. It's not great and you you've just spoken to the President of the United States. Um

Would you uh d just Americans uh d on the ground, are they supportive of Trump? Are they anti the British? What what's the view in and around America, my friend. Look, I think America's quite divided on Donald Trump campaigned on no more forever wars. He you know he made a big pledge of he wouldn't be dragging uh America into endless conflicts. And I think there's a lot of support for the war as long as a short, sharp shot.

It's a short you know, i uh it's regime from chains from the sky, not with the boots and with the tank. The li the memory of Iraq and Afghanistan lingers long across the West, not just in Britain, but in America as well. At the moment I think the kind of jury's out. There's been a lot of questions about what's the exit plan, how do you get out of this?

I asked the president a little bit about that, but he was he was very forthright. He said we are dominant over there with a dominant power. It's going very, very well, but he's been very tight lipped about what next, how long it may last. Essentially as my understanding of it is He doesn't really care who takes over Iran as long as they lose the death to America crap and stop building nukes.

Apart from that, I think he'd be kinda cool with it. So I don't think he's in it for the long haul as a complete you know, turning it into a nice flag waving liberal democracy of that we know everyone wants to see. I just think he wants them to stop building nukes and stop vowing to kill Americans and he'll call it quit.

Mate, great, great work. Two o'clock in the morning. He's off to bed, slash the bar. Harry Cole, uh, the Sun's editor at large, that world exclusive, online now, the Sun.co dot UK. You heard it first here on talk. Harry Cole just off the phone from the United States President Donald Trump he slams Starmer. You can read it online suggesting that he Starmer is pandering to Muslim voters

and warns categorically that the special relationship that we have come to depend upon, whatever Zak Palensky says, is in dire straits. He praises Europe, Mar Rutte, even the Italians, of course Georgia and the French. He says about Starmer, and I quote, He has not been helpful. I never thought I'd see that. I never thought I'd see that.

From the United Kingdom. Fourteen minutes past seven. We're live across the United Kingdom. Uh let's go to Dubai to talk's international editor. She was on the show yesterday. Fantastic, uh, honest piece. Isabel Oakshot, good morning. Your response initially to Harry's exclusive there, the President of the United States doesn't look at all favourably on our Prime Minister. Surprise, surprise. I mean it's i on the one hand it's really depressing, but on the other hand let's reassure ourselves

that this is a temporary situation. Keir Starmer is not going to be in charge of the UK for very many Mae'n ymwneud yn ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud. as he put it. But in due course the UK will, under a different government, be able to rebuild its

tarnished relationship with the US and that is something we're gonna have to do as a priority. Um to you, um I I was so um happy that you came on yesterday. I asked you from a personal point of view. uh how it's been. We've seen much uh more in the in the in the the news cycles about attacks on Dubai and other cities and towns in the Middle East. What's the last twenty four hours been like, Isabel?

I mean very turbulent, honestly, you know, uh so much going through one's mind, you know, how long is this going to go on for? Um if it is you know, the President has indicated a four to five week campaign, what does that mean for living in Dubai during that period? Uh is it responsible, right and responsible to stay in the heart of Dubai with my children? Yn ymwneud â'n ymwneud â'n ymwneud â'n ymwneud â'n ymwneud â'n ymwneud â'n ymwneud â'n ymwneud â'n ymwneud â'n ymwneud.

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Um but it is a whole new kind of way of life, I suppose, you know, with every uh sort of thud and and bang. It might just be a someone scraping their chair in a room next door, but you're spiking on on the alert for it. That's right. I know we know each other. I know that there's the journalist, but there's also the mother. Are you scared? I'm not actually. I want to be a responsible parent. Of course I do. I don't personally feel frightened, but I do feel an immense sense of responsibility.

not to let my journalistic instincts, which are to head towards trouble, um get in the way of what I need to do that is right for the children. But I don't actually know any uh residents of Dubai that are queuing up for the door. I probably said that to you yesterday. Yeah. Nothing's changed this morning. I was just talking to a friend, they've been out walking their dog on the beach, they said everything's

normal, people are out there jogging, you know, it's just all a sort of fairly normal vibe, though it is absolutely quieter than usual. Um y you've always been somebody who faces everything. Um Uh

The odious Ed Davy decided to take a pot shot at you yesterday. There seemed to be this sort of uh growing feeling certainly amongst well, I'm gonna call him on the left, but he's just a wet apologist, isn't he? That that I mean, we we're talking about this this morning. I'm gonna play the clip and then you have your say and you'll have mine. But Ed Davy

Uh he he decided to stand up in the House of Commons and have a go at people who go to Dubai for the wrong reasons and should we in fact try and defend them? Ed Davy, for the first time for a long time on Talk Breakfast. We rightly expect our brave armed forces. to protect British citizens around the world in crises like this. But that includes tax exiles. Ysabel Oakeshott a Washtemol Footballers, sy'n mwynhau o'r bobl sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n sy'n.

paying taxes to fund our armed forces just like the rest of us do. Um I I can defend your honour massively, but I'll let you start. I mean I just think it's quite funny. I'm such a bad example to use. You know, I'm I'm not a squillionaire. I mean relative to the

to the multi millionaires and billionaires that uh that Dubai is full of. I'm actually relatively poor, all things being relative. Doesn't he understand how many people choose to leave the country, not primarily to avoid paying tax, but because of the advantages uh of living in a crime free safe, clean, brilliantly well run, sunny environment. I mean I've been very open that for me

the tipping point was this Labour government's decision to put V A T on school fees. Uh that meant that I was no longer going to be able to afford to keep my children in the kind of schools that I want them to go to. Now if there was a brilliant state school or grammar school up the road, fantastic. You know, I don't know many parents that

would voluntarily um ruin themselves financially for private schooling for some kind of snobbery. I just want them to have the best education. And actually being in the Middle East is a very different Education. Ed Davy to me has managed or did manage to get seventy two MPs without a policy, but it does beg the question and let's let's cut to the chase. I mean you said it safe and clean, the the opposite is said.

I I found myself looking at the television so so Ed, what you're saying is is that British citizens who have gone to Dubai, we shouldn't bring our own people home because they live abroad. I and and and I would also respectfully suggest and because you're a friend of mine I'm gonna pick my words. Everybody knows that you're marrying uh Richard Tice, right?

But you are an independent, hardworking journalist in your own mind. You are talks international editor. That was a cheap shot at reform. That is just a dig at Richard as much as it's a dig at you, and it shows entirely The lack of gravitas that Ed Davy has,'cause there's nothing that's just political games in the middle of a a crisis across the globe, isn't it?

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How many estate agents, how many marketing people have left the UK for Dubai? It's so lazy to characterise it. Like that. I mean I'm not bothered. I'm not offended. I just thought Bothered Am I bothered? Am I bothered? You're not bothered, are you? Brilliant. Listen, um please keep us updated, please keep safe, and thank you.

genuinely for all the work that you're doing and uh for talk and we'll uh we'll speak to you tomorrow. What is it, twenty one minutes past seven if you're waking up Tuesday the third of March. Uh this is Talk the Home of Common Sense, the home of alarm clock. Brits, we woke up to this Sort of headline on the mail, uh the US Lambas, the hand wringing pearl clutching stammer, as Kemi says He's scared of his own voters, the front of the telegraph.

I'm very disappointed in Kia, but we go further. We just had twenty minutes to go, breaking exclusive news from Harry Cole, the Sun's editor at large in Washington DC, had just come off the phone from Donald Trump. You can get it online. Uh thesun.co dot uk, Donald Trump and I quote slam starmer to Harry Cole, suggesting he's pandering to the Muslim votes. and warns in no uncertain terms that the special relationship is in dire straits. He went ahead and praised Europe.

And this is what he said about Kirstarram. Whatever the apologists say, this is important. He has not been helpful. I never thought I'd see that. I never thought I'd see that. From the United Kingdom. Let's cross to Reform UK Shadow Chancellor for a reaction immediately. Uh, Robert Jenrik. Good morning. Welcome to Talk Breakfast. Hi, Jeremy. Good morning. What what's your response to Donald Trump speaking to Harry Cole in the last half an hour, my friend?

Well look, he was right that Keir Starmer is a weak leader who doesn't know his own mind and is more interested in putting notions of international law and the advice of his human rights lawyer friends like the Attorney General Lord Hermann. above the basic security interests of the United Kingdom.

And that has meant that it has frayed relations with our closest ally, the United States, because they don't think that we're a reliable partner anymore. But I'm actually much more interested in the interests of our own country than in perceptions overseas. And that is where Kirst Armour has really failed because even when they were drones

attacking our base in Cyprus, where our troops are stationed, where their families are living, he still didn't know what he wanted to do. He didn't get our jets into the skies, he didn't try and intercept the drones and take action to protect our interests. This is a very weak Prime Minister at a time when we face such challenges.

It is why we need a strong Prime Minister, frankly, right now. You saw that with the response of Nigel Farage yesterday, who knew exactly where he stood on these issues and would be able to represent us on the international stage. With the strength of character and conviction that we need right now. We've got a political situation. We go back to Gorton and Denton. The the Greens took the seat, that's done.

We had their leader yesterday, I didn't get a chance to speak to you about this. We had their leader who who said that America is a road stake, that we should leave NATO, give back our nuclear weapons and go to to to to see Putin on a commercial jet and say, Come on, Mr Putin, we we can all sit and talk about this. And then you had the deputy leader of the Green Party, Mothen Ali, at a rally in London supporting a regime

that the defence secretary from the Labour government yesterday said had plotted twenty terror attacks in this country to kill Brits on the streets. I would say and I will get slaughtered but I don't care. That Donald Trump is doing more to protect the interests of British people right now than our own bloody government, Rob Yeah, well no one should mourn the death of the Ayatollah. He was one of the most evil dictators that we've known in our lifetime.

And not just what he's done or did in his own country, but what he did to our own people. And that's what really matters here and what angers me when I see the reaction of people like the Green Party's leadership. Remember that it was Iran that was supplying the IEDs and the weapons that led to the deaths of our troops. in Iraq and Afghanistan. Brave British men, young men whose lives were cut short in service of our country, at the behest of Iranian proxies.

And yet you've got politicians from the Green Party who aspire to serve in our parliament behind me. praising them, mourning the death of these individuals. I mean it's completely sick, it's despicable really when you think about it. And then look at what I discovered over the weekend, where I found that our own Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rachel Reed. had been cosying up to an extreme fanatic, Arshad Katani.

in her constituency of Leeds, a man who'd spread conspiracy theories, who'd played host to vile preachers, Somebody who she had met at least twenty seven times. and had gone to lunch at his house when she was Chancellor of the Exchequer. This is ostensibly the second most important politician in our country and yet she was getting into bed with this man. to try and save her skin in her constituency because sectarian politics

has been allowed to take hold, to fester in parts of our big cities right now and parties, particularly at the left, the Labour Party and the Green Party, are now up to their necks in it. And we've got to stop this and fight back because this is not the country that any of us

want to live in. I want to talk about um her and economics in a sec with you, but I have to, you know, in terms of broadcasting tell you that Rachel Reeves in response to you posting that video said and I quote, I didn't know. Brilliant. That's the chance of the exchequer. I didn't know that this guy was an Islamic terrorist sympathizer.

Uh Rob, today you keep bringing it back to people and you're dead right to. And I said to people this morning, listen up if you need a car'cause my wife ranged me last night and said, Should I fill the car? And I was like, What? Uh the truth is is that uh gas, oil prices are gonna shoot through the roof. Some four courts across the land already reporting that they're running dry people, as they always do, running in fear and filling up their tanks.

Uh Rachel Reeves was due today, Rob, to make a five P du fuel duty hike, which everybody had been up in arms about and motors were saying Why are you screwing us again to m pay more benefit bills'cause you won't be stronger? Do you think she'll drop it? Because bearing in mind what people are gonna go through, she's in she's in a another precarious position, probably'cause she can't add up. What do you think will happen?

Well, we're told Rachel Reese is gonna come to Parliament and tell us that the economy is turning a corner. Well, I don't know who she speaks to, what street she walks, because that's not the experience of people that I meet. Their bills are rising, energy, water bills. fuel bills when they're filling up at the petrol station. They're losing their job.

because of the taxes that she's imposing. We've got record or recent record levels of unemployment now. A million young people are now not in work or education or training. You know, levels of unemployment we haven't seen since the pandemic where the government literally shut down the economy. And why is this? Well it's because of the mismanagement of Rachel Reese and the taxes that she's imposed, because of all the waste.

The benefits bill that's ballooning, the money that's being spent on foreign nationals, on the asylum hotels, on foreign aid, the billions and billions that she's spraying around rather than spending on the interests of the British public. What we need is a government that's going to put the British public first Be careful with their money, bring people's bills down at this time when people's household budgets are under immense pressure, and bring back good jobs.

By getting rid of the net zero madness so businesses like heavy industry can be competitive again and beginning responsibly to bring down taxes. And so businesses can hire people and compete again. That is what I want to see, that is the message that reform uh is standing for but Rachel Reese seems to have her hands. you know, over her eyes, her head in the sand, completely oblivious to the experiences of everybody out there in the real world.

And that and that's the point. We can sit here and we can pontificate about what's happening in the world because it concerned us, because the terrorist threat is real. Listen to this from Keith and Wolverhampton. Don't know why I did that accent. The Middle East conflict has already sent the price of natural gas up fifty percent on world markets in just one day. What a relief.

that we all have that Miller band, solar, wind, energy crap to keep our bills down. And that's the reality. We talk Richard Tys calls it net stupid zero. The reality is we have a government who Don't really care how we look on the na the international stage. She panned it to a certain vote to the detriment I think to so many other people. And this petrol situation this morning is is absolute proof. She will come to the commons, you're telling me, and say everything's good.

This country this country is on its backside. I mean, I I was with you the other day and I I know you stood up and you said Britain is broken and that was one of the reasons that you left the Tory Party. You were in that shadow cabinet meeting and they also I saw Camybed not today or yesterday say, you know, Britain is not broken. It is broken. It doesn't work like it used to. It needs it needs emergency surgery, doesn't it?

Yeah, I just cannot believe it when I hear politicians say that Britain isn't broken. You know, w who are they speaking to? When I when I knock on doors when I'm in factories and You know, shops and cafes, I dunno chat to people. Everyone is saying the same thing. Our economy is in a mess right now. People feel hard up, they feel poor, their bills are rising, they're worried about their kids who can't get on the housing ladder, they're worried about rising unemployment. We need action now.

And that is not what Rachel Rees is proposing. She's literally going to come to Parliament and say that everything is going in the right direction, that it's all tickety-boo. It's complete fantastic. And on on energy bills, look, we should start by getting drilling again in the North Sea. It is madness.

That we're taking oil and gas from the Norwegian part of the North Sea, but Ed Miliband is literally banning it from the British part of the North Sea and losing all the jobs and the tax revenues that flow from that. Uh the fuel duty at the pumps. It is the worst possible moment to be increasing duty at the pumps when everybody already feels hard up and oil and gas prices are spiking on the international markets because of the conflict in the Middle East.

Uh Rob, just finally, uh you probably won't have seen this so y y you you don't have to, but I'd love your response. Uh a sensational poll by Ugov has literally just come out the last few minutes. The Green Party has leaped frogged Labour into second place. They're up four points to twenty one percent driven

uh to a significant extent by the publicity from the Gorton and Denton by election, let's bear that in mind. But this has reformed down to twenty three and the Greens up four to twenty one. How real a threat? How real a threat in reform's mind and in your mind are Zak and the Green Party? Well I think we have to take it seriously. We've all got to see that the next general election, whenever it comes, is likely to be a straight fight between Nigel Farage and reform on the one hand.

and a scary coalition of the left on the other hand. Whether that's Keir Starm or whoever's replaced him when he's kicked out like Angela Rayner, in coalition with Zack Polansky and the Green Party. And so decent, hard working, patriotic Brits who like me are worried about the state of the country. need to rally behind Nigel and reform as the only way to ensure that there is a sensible government that can start to fix our country.

The other parties, like the Conservative Party, are frankly irrelevant right now. It's gonna be that big fight and it's so important that we get this right, or else we're gonna consign our country to five, ten years in which it's just gonna start to slip away. Uh good man. Listen, thank you so much for this morning. Busy already.

Spring is coming though, no cat and no hat oh hat or coat, General. That's a good start to your your Tuesday morning. But thank you for joining us live there from College Green. What a first hour if you're just waking up, you're just joining. We had an exclusive from Washington, DC. Harry Cole, the Sun's editor at large.

had just come off the phone from President Donald Trump. He came straight onto the show and told us that Trump has slammed Starmer, suggesting that he's pandering to the Muslim vote. He's warning categorically to Harry, and you can say it online, the sun.co dot uk that the special relationship that we have become used to, some criticized. Is in dire straits. He says of Starmer, he has not been helpful and I never ever thought I'd see it. I never ever thought I'd see that from the United Kingdom.

Gonna go live. Um this is brilliant. Uh uh former retired Lieutenant uh General Ben Hodges, former commander of the US Army in uh Europe. Ben a very good morning to you. How are you? Good morning, Jeremy. Oh God, I don't know where to start. Um let let's start with that exclusive that Harry Cole gave us an hour ago that the President of the United States, Donald Trump, has slammed Keir Starmer, suggesting he's pandering to Muslim voters and warns

uh, Ben that the special relationship is in dire straits. His quote, was he's not been helpful. I've never thought I'd see that I never thought I'd see that from the UK. What's your response as the ex US commander of the army in Europe? Well of course uh British forces have always been an essential part of America's strategic thinking and and our security and uh access to bases controlled by the UK of course are always an important part of

of what we do and this this whole operation has reminded us how much America needs allies uh and UK remains chief among them. So does it? Does it though? I mean Australia and Australia and other countries came straight out Israel, but actually we've differed, haven't we? So, um, you know, the special relationship is not based on who's in the Oval Office or Who's at uh Downing Street at It's a it's so many layers of relationships in every part of our society and and those values.

You know, there's been huge blows before between the American president and leaders of other countries. I almost laughed earlier in a previous one of your interviews where uh Y you mentioned that the president was heaping praise on Germany. I mean that's that's not something that happens very often. So these these kinds of relationships uh will survive this.

Um the the the I mean, listen, th I understand Trump is that sort of person, but I would love a a an idea if I can from an American perspective. What do you make of this government? I mean I'll give you a military example. Yesterday, eight hundred yards from RAF Akraterian Cyprus, a drone launched by Iran was within eight hundred meters. of killing my country's servicemen and women. Nothing from my Prime Minister. Nothing. I thought Article five of NATO said, and I quote

An attack on one is an attack on all. I worry that this hand wringing human rights movable feast rubbish, as I'm now calling it, is just i is used whenever and that actually uh uh you know, take Trump for what he is, but I want more from my leader, sorry, is that wrong? You know, one of the things that um I've thought about here over the last couple of days is uh these Shahi drones th this is the first time that we are having to face these that the Ukrainians have dealt with for the last years.

Uh and we're finding out that our air defense systems are not ideally suited. uh against Shahead drones. Um the fact that they could reach Cyprus um which means they could also probably reach um Suda Bay in Crete, um which is a very important naval base for us. Um we have not learned the lessons that we need to about how to defend against this threat and th I think the Iranians are using what the Russians did where you try to overwhelm

uh the defenses. So I'm I'm sure that they're taking a look at air defense there uh around aquaterius. Um, in terms of Donald Trump in terms of the military thing, um, you know, uh lots of people are saying this is typical of America, you go in, you create chaos and you leave. How long do you think this will last? How do you think the military operation is going and what about the future?

Well look, um, at least half of the Congress and most Americans are unhappy with this war, um, because they don't they don't understand what really is going on. And and um n nobody that I know will shed a tear over the demise of the Ayatollah and the people around him and what they have done to their own people as well as the hundreds of American soldiers who were killed uh as a result of uh Iranian support for uh ترجمة نانسي قنقر Bye. Uh it is right to ask.

Why are we there? Uh what is the desired end state? And this is job one for the head of any government to explain what the strategic end state should be. Otherwise things do take a a course that you didn't want or didn't predict. Do you see this as a potential do you see this I mean he says three or four weeks, right? He's he he implies this is in and out, this is getting rid of the nuclear deterrent, there was a logistical reason for doing this, uh sleeper sales, blah blah blah. Um

Uh are you concerned that this could drag on longer? Are you against this action, Ben, or are you for it? Well, I'm very concerned that we don't know what the end state is. I mean

each each day I see one or two more justifications for what's going on. Look, nobody wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. Nobody wants Iran to be able to threaten their neighbors. Nobody wants Iran to uh be able to support terrorism around the world or at least in that region, or to disrupt uh international uh navigation

through the Straits of Four Moose, for example. Yeah. These are all good reasons to do something, but they haven't been laid out in a strategy. And to say, well, we'll be out in four weeks, you can't possibly actually say that with any certainty if you don't know exactly what the insate is So what what you say gimme give me an insight. So when you're doing military planning, you were the the the retired former commander of US forces in Europe. A massive job. When you're doing military planning

And this is a really important question for my listeners and viewers. Do you have to do you as a general go, right, we're gonna do this or do you go, Oh no, I need to check with a human rights lawyer first as to how I'll look? I d really important question. What's the truth? Um you know what? It was always important that we operate within the law of armed conflict.

I mean that's what we do. And to characterize it as we're checking on human rights or is this woke or whatever, and that's what unfortunately our Secretary of Defense uh mischaracterizes what it is we do. No soldier no soldier wants to be involved in something that is illegal because they have to live with the consequences is after that. Is Donald Trump

excursion, wrong word, uh into Iran. Is it legal or illegal in your mind? I think it's based on a false premise. Uh when he said that or when his administration has said there is imminent threat That means we have hard intelligence that something is about to happen here. That would justify taking preemptive action.

Multiple intelligence sources have said uh actually it's years before they have a ballistic missile, uh they're a long way from having the ability to make a Why has he done it na w if if you're right, why has he done it now then? I mean political capital, I was wondering midterms. Do do Americans I mean not that I read.

uh this. I hear the opposite. But um um do Americans feel proud when you guys flex your military power? Because we're reading that that that Trump is facing fifty percent of America disagree absolutely with with uh you know, because he said end of wars, not starting of them. Yeah, I think most Americans uh have figured out how to be proud of their soldiers and sailors and airmen. uh and capabilities and still be critical of policy. And and I think that's where most people would be.

Um just finally, um, we talked to Sir Richard Dealov, former head of MI six, about terror level threats and and the repercussions sleeper cells. Are you expecting attacks on home soil as a result of Trump and and Israel's action in the Middle East? Um I would not be surprised. I mean that's this is what people have warned about for a long time and and so

You know, having having a strong uh homeland security posture is also part of this. But you highlight an important thing, Jeremy, the sharing of intelligence with all of our allies. Half of the intelligence that the US government uses Does not come from American satellites, it comes from our allies. Really interesting. Ben, um we're gonna watch this situation naturally. We're gonna use you quite a lot, if that's right, over the next few uh days and weeks, and we thank you for your time.

Kyle Breakfast We say at 9.30 a very good morning. Uh to the legend that is proving to be Samara Gill. Hello. Hello, what an introduction, I'll take it. Well I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna um attack you well I'm gonna we're gonna do so You're gonna attack me, alright? Okay, you're on we're gonna do it on two fronts here.

Uh we're gonna start with the Reform Party conference yesterday. Uh off you went. Uh saw Nigel introduced this, then I'm gonna I'm gonna throw some American stuff at you, baby. Look, Nigel was very uh prime ministerial yesterday, presidential even in some ways. Uh He really put his foot down when it came to Iran and I was there thinking I mean I'm not affiliated with any party but I was thinking, All right, this is na this is how we talk. I mean he was echoing a lot of the sentiment of Trump.

Uh he was blasting Starmer and it's just a shame that we don't have a strong man in the office right now or the the world. Can you imagine if we had Farage in Trump right now? This but we couldn't have had a worse situation where we've got Starmer and Trump in at the same time. Well, I asked Farage a question. Uh let's have a look at what he had to say. Okay.

Mr Frog to Generic, can you state clearly this morning in regards to Ashad Katana that you are alleging misconduct or not? He's clearly behaved. In a completely appalling manner. Sorry, that's the wrong clip. Technical problem there. Don't worry about it. Keep talking. So you ask them about what? So I asked him, would a reform government have allowed US forces to use air bases for offensive operations in Iraq?

It's ready now. Take two Raj, would a reform government have allowed US forces to use UK air bases for offensive operations in Iran? Yes is the answer to your question. I would have said to the Americans, please do use our bases. We will be supportive of you on this. Whether this does go to a debate or a vote in the House of Commons, we will have to see. But as I say, British sovereign territory is under attack. We have, I don't think, really very much choice.

That is pri th that's common sense, isn't it? That's I've spoken to Hermer and he says Uh I'm worried about the fish on the island outside we're not gonna do anything. That just drives me insane mate. No, I think he understands what is going on here and he had some really sensible positions as well on Iranian refugees. Uh one that I'm actually gonna go talk to today, uh I'm gonna have that report for you tomorrow.

Because that's a tricky situation, isn't it? What do we do with the Iranian refugees? I mean, yes, they're coming from war torn areas, but you know, they're also Did you hear Carl Turner say? It's really interesting. Karl Turner just said And if we get involved why am I doing his voice? If we get involved there are nineteen million Ira Iranians. Where do you think they'll end up? Well I would I s I took s exception with him because he said I don't want them a hole

Why do they have to come here? Yeah, it's a good thing. Sorry, why? No, get rid of your government and stay there. I will give credit to the argument that says, you know, America's quite famous for going in and then getting out. And you look at Afghanistan and Vietnam and I understand that but I don't think that takes away from the fact that you want

Is your leader a principled person? Whatever their views are, I don't care if they're diametrically opposed to mine, but bloody well believe it. This man sits on the bleeding fence and that's what winds people up.

It really does and I think Trump is absolutely right in his interview with Harry.

uh out the sum when he said that, you know, he's pandering to the Muslim vote. I was saying this yesterday, the Gorton and Denton by election, which is hilarious to even mention in the context of Iran, but I do think it's influenced him to learn Of course it has uh and it's made him say, Oh no, I've got a panda to the Muslim vote It's as you said, Jeremy, Morgan McSweeney is not there for his centre Labour positions anymore.

Keir Starmer is absolutely baseless. And we're seeing right now when we need someone in office that is completely uh convicted or has conviction.

Uh someone who doesn't know what the hell they're doing. He's been shown up. I don't think it's even that. Um I think I think it's what we were saying earlier and I I agree with you. It's it's like I've I've promised so many people so much to get here that now I'm hum hamstrung and and and I believe his first point of contact in anything is Lord Hermer, his old human rights lawyer mate. I want I've been saying it all morning and it annoys people. I want to say to Herma in a dark room

You know human you know, international law and the Ayatollah. You try explaining international bloody law to a parent whose child was blown to bits in the Manchester Arena bombings. Go on because you're not You i I agree with Sir Richard Deelov. It's a movable bloody feast, the international law ex example, and they use it when it suits them. I don't care if I disagree

To the end of my life with what my Prime Minister says. But I'd actually go, do you know what? He bloody well believes that. I don't know what Starmer believes. If we are defending ourselves, then that also falls within international law, the right to defend ourselves. So, I mean, they've attacked Hezbollah has attacked a a British air base. And what did Starmer say? What was his response?

Oh, we need to defuse the situation. No, no sorry. Article five of NATO says we should go to war with those people. Plus why haven't you thrown any diplomats out of any agent uh any embassies in London? Why have you not instigated sanctions?

because he spends his entire time trying to placate everybody. Now I'm not extolling every virtue of Donald Trump, but go on the streets as you did of London and see the people who are the Iranian people had a great call earlier, Ayyad A Ayyad of Who are saying, Thank you for saving our country and the Hermers of this world and the stamas of this world, do you know when they'll really slip up?

He's hamstrung because if there are terror sales in this country and it comes back and bites him on the backside, then he will really understand what the British people are about. There's me talking, isn't it? Well, which there are though, you're right. It's tw you're you're completely right. 20 foiled terrorist plots in the last year from Iran. That's what we know of. We know that they were actively sending people across.

o the channel on boats uh in order to commit terrorist offences in this country. So this is a hostile regime and it just pains me. This is scary, scary times for Britain. It murders its own people and sponsors terrorism. Roger from Wales, which is broke. I think the biggest threat to the UK right now is the woke left for supporting these fanatics and their views. Sean Cooper says, I've never been more ashamed to be British. I hope we survive to see the back of this vile government.

and disgusting excuse for a man. That's Sean from Bridlington. Have you ever been to Bridlington? I haven't, but I'll go there. I'll go see Sean. I once got offered a summer season in Bridlington and turned it down. Uh the UK, says Sharon Miller, is is is is so embarrassing. Yeah, I mean I couldn't agree. Uh te Teregram pardon? Hm? The Ayatollah Humani oppressed the Iranians around the country into the ground. Stama. See any similarities? Anyone who votes Labour, Green or Liberal?

is a Turkey voting for Christmas. Darrell Morning jails, I'm embarrassed for this country. We are led by wimps. This is a new low. I'm ashamed to call it my country. Bruce, when Starmer stands there and talks, who is he actually talking to and addressing?

And representing. Is it you? Is it me? It's not me, it's stand for me. Jans in Newcastle, totally ashamed of Starmer, his sing song blanch, slow delivery of such an important message had me cringing. There's no look of strength, no presence at all. Weak, weak, weak and embarrassing. That's a really good point.

Yeah, it's me, myself and I with uh Keir Starmer. It really is. I mean, w you can see the way that he jeopardized his own party by not putting Andy Burnham up in the Gaudent Denton seat in order to save his own skin. And now he's clinging on. And by the way, he's loving this situation in Iran right now'cause it's covering his job which was on the precipice just a couple of days ago. He's acting like he's the second coming of Churchill. Meanwhile Jesus Christ To think that we were led by someone

uh that gusto at some point. Uh racist apparently in this world, yeah. Uh oh or my daughter they go you're racist. Yeah, you wouldn't be you'd be speaking German. Can we c can I change tack from Robert Jenner because I want your

Because you know how much I love the bones of you, right? Ready for this? Did you see any of the Clinton's deposition on the Epstein files? Have you seen any of Clinton? I was consuming it, it was delicious. Oh my god, right, I'm gonna play you a club of clips now, I'll get you into the day. We've talked non stop about Iran.

So firstly Hillary Clinton, who'd already said, I've never been to his island, I've never been on his play. This is a complete and utter sham. You should be talking to my Hustons. Leave me alone. She lost it big time. Morning, Hillary, love. I'm gonna answer your question. Now you're gonna answer that. This was what I spent my time doing. I'm a driver trying to look out for others. And I was taking care of the people who lost.

Thousand lives and now you're being defiant and indignant today. You asked me. I have Epstein survivors, I'm a survivor myself. You have emails, you've denied that Jeffrey Epstein that you tried to get Jeffrey Epstein to give money to you. I didn't but Howard Lutnick was used to have an email with me asking Jeffrey Epstein for money.

Sending it to Jeffrey Epstein and his people to raise money for you for an event, an intimate event for you. Now you take that right, honestly, that's good enough. You have Hilary right, really, and then you have Bill who suddenly Right, looks like my dad and my dad's dead. I mean I'm just being honest. He was asked whether he likes them young. Have a watch.

Witnesses who testified in the Epstein cases that Epstein said uh you quote like them young. Why would Epstein say that about you? Are you asking his opinion? You're asking him to act about why Mr. Epstein would say something about why would Epstein say that about it? Well, Clinton likes them young, referring to girls. First of all That's not true. That's not true. That I have any Interest in underage. I didn't say underage, I said I said young. But it's still not true.

Uh sorry, do you remember I did not have sexual relations with that woman? My wife is twenty years younger. Well can you just think about his Hysterical lady and pedo pow ruling the world right now, aka Hillary Clinton. Can you imagine that woman having access to the nuclear codes or dealing with the Ayatollah in Iran? No.

questioning from the DOJ, then what would she be doing if she was in charge of the country? And I'm simply asking this for a personal opinion. Did you believe a word that came out of Bill Clinton's mouth, which was hung half open? I I might just be honest, uh I uh uh throughout the whole thing. What did you what did you

I do not believe a word that comes out of his mouth. I mean I really don't. I mean how can we that man is a liar through and through. Somebody made a really good point this morning. Do you notice just how Cl Clinton, nearly Clinton and Trump who are sworn adversaries, right? Clinton the other day came out and said, No, no, I didn't think Donald Trump saw anything at all.

Really? We've lost Andrew and Mandelson and maybe more. I think uh I think that some of these huge people in America are also in trouble. I don't think it's gonna be what's interesting is there is another line of questioning there where they ask about Uh Jeff I know we haven't got too much time, but they asked about Jeffrey Epstein and his mental state at the time of his death.

And Bill got very strange about that. He didn't want to answer questions about whether he was suicidal, etcetera. So Clintons have a lot to answer for in general.

Uh loads to talk. Thank you, Samara Girl. She's amazing. Check her white online on Talk YouTube. That amazing interview uh with with um with uh reforms leader Nigel Farage yesterday. Uh loads to cram in, thank you, Samara. Daniel, good morning. Good morning, Jeza. It's Daniel from Epsom here. Your Labour MP was saying that Starmer's first port of call was the protection of British citizens. What a laugh. What a joke.

We've got men from the Ferb world flooding into our country every day, committing sexual assault, rape, murder, violence. There's a story every single day in the newspaper about these unwanted newcomers committing horrendous crimes. If if he felt that passionately Starmer, he would have stopped the boat. The home of common sense.

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