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Tales From The Fourth Trimester

Naomi Chrisoulakiswww.cocoonbynaomi.com

A podcast dedicated to the beauty and brutality of new parenthood - because giving birth is the beginning, but postpartum is forever. Created by postpartum doula Naomi Chrisoulakis, each week she chats to women about their postpartum experiences and asks experts to share their wisdom. 

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Episodes

31 | Postpartum sex + relationships, part 5

The final episode in this series, I sit down with my husband for some real talk on how our relationship changed after having a baby--and why it ended up being the best thing that could have happened.

Nov 24, 20191 hr 14 minSeason 1Ep. 31

30 | Postpartum sex + relationships, part four

Emily Fishman is a mother of four, including a set of 18 month old twins. While she's had three different postpartum experiences, the common theme has been a big strain on her relationship - both with her ex-husband and current partner. Emily and I chat about how birth and breastfeeding can result in an overwhelming sense of responsibility and loss of freedom, feeling resentful when partners returned to work and the "I can cope" attitude that left Emily feeling isolated and unsupported. Having a...

Nov 10, 20191 hr 12 minSeason 1Ep. 30

29 | Postpartum sex + relationships part 3

Eavesdrop on a candid conversation with one of my oldest (and most honest) girlfriends, Chloe. We talk all things sex and relationships around bedsharing, military marriages, libido loss, kids walking in on you, getting back in your body, love languages, prolapses, queefing and SO much more.

Nov 03, 20191 hr 2 minSeason 1Ep. 29

28 | Postpartum sex + relationships, part two

Ooft. This was hard to record, you guys - but I did it, and I wasn't even drunk! In this episode, I (over)share about how I navigated sex and my relationship after I had my daughter in this second part of this special series. Show notes The mental load article: https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a12063822/emotional-labor-gender-equality/ The Esther Perel book: https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-state-of-affairs-esther-perel/book/9781473673540.html The Drop the Ball book: https://www.bo...

Oct 27, 20191 hr 1 minSeason 1Ep. 28

27 | Postpartum Sex and Relationships Part 1

You asked for it, so here it is! A series of podcasts deep diving into what happens to your intimate relationship and sexual life after you have a baby (or three!). In this episode, I asked Dasha Clarke, a relationship doula, to share her thoughts on what the hell goes wrong when you have a baby, the particular stresses on a postpartum relationship - and the silver lining/opportunity that postpartum provides to completely rethink and reshape your relationship.

Oct 20, 201946 minSeason 1Ep. 27

26 | Jo Chan: "I had to rethink who I was"

Jo's a get-shit-done kind of woman, who prides herself on being up with the latest restaurants, talks and cultural happenings around town. At least, she did. Then she stopped work, had a baby and her mum moved in with her and her partner. Faced with the Chinese tradition of confinement, Jo found herself in a very different world all of a sudden. In this episode, she shares why her mum's traditions were some of the best things about her postpartum, why Instagram lies and how she had to come to te...

Oct 13, 20191 hr 29 minSeason 1Ep. 26

25 | Christina Palmer "My husband got six months paid parental leave"

You might have heard me talking about Annabel Crabb's fantastic Quarterly Essay on the state of working parenthood. There was plenty of hope and one particular case study stood out - of a man whose work offered him a whopping six months of parental leave on full pay when his fourth child was born. Well, that man's wife reached out to me on Instagram, describing it as a miracle - and now she's sharing here what it was like to have that amazing experience.

Oct 06, 201950 minSeason 1Ep. 25

24 | Friendships after baby: when you feel let down and how to find a mama tribe

I'm chatting to myself this episode! A lot of you wanted to hear my thoughts on what happens when you feel let down by the people close to you and how to deal with it. I'm far from an expert, but I'm sharing some of my experience and what I'd do differently. Plus! You wanted some ideas on how to make new parent friends - after all, one of the big bonuses of having kids is that you're opened up to a whole new social world! - so I'm giving you some ideas, along with suggestions from women who have...

Sep 29, 201941 minSeason 1Ep. 24

23 | Heidi Sze: "If you're supported you can fully embrace how much your baby needs you"

What a pleasure it was to have Heidi Sze of Apples Under My Bed--and new book Nurturing Your New Life--join me in this episode to talk about her two, quite different postpartum periods with her children Joan and Walt, the food that's fuelled her motherhood journey and how she uses her blog and Instagram to get real about motherhood. We cover everything from building community to dealing with prolapses; frankly, we could have talked for much longer! Heidi's book, Nurturing Your New Life, is out t...

Sep 22, 20191 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 23

22 | "We have the village" - Nikki Kinstlinger on motherhood as an observant Jew

I learned so much from my conversation with Nikki, an old work friend who converted to Judaism after meeting her now-husband. She lets us in on what life is like as an observant Jewish woman, and we talk about everything from sex and periods to rituals and the mental load. I could have talked to Nikki for HOURS - I hope you find her perspective as interesting as I did.

Sep 15, 20191 hr 19 minSeason 1Ep. 22

21 | Sophie Gleitzman: "Starting motherhood in the NICU changed everything"

It took four years for Sophie Gleitzman to fall pregnant. It took only moments at her 19 weeks scan for her to realise that her much-wanted baby's life might be at risk. As it turned out, her son, Jack (now a happy and healthy two year old) needed heart surgery soon after he was born and Sophie's motherhood journey began in the NICU. But while the intensity of life in the NICU was often heart-wrenching, Sophie says it gave her a priceless perspective that she believes has changed her approach to...

Sep 08, 20191 hr 6 minSeason 1Ep. 21

20 | Rachael Rose: "I thought life would just continue as normal"

Doula, mother and kickass writer of Instagram captions, Rachael Rose has long been my Instagram crush. I'd heard bits and pieces of her motherhood story, I'd slid into her DMs but for this episode I met her in person to hear the whole story. From standing up against the hospital system to becoming a badass breastfeeder despite a rocky start (and a foray into 'anxiety death bubbles') Rachael shares it all. Find her at rachaelrose.com.au and on Instagram @the_rachael_rose

Sep 01, 20191 hrSeason 1Ep. 20

19 | Claire Obeid: "Motherhood floored me"

Can motherhood be a spiritual journey? How does becoming a parent act as a catalyst for personal growth? Claire Obeid, life and wellness coach and mother of two, joins me to share how becoming a mother humbled her and gave her new power.

Aug 25, 201933 min

18 | Is bedsharing dangerous? What you need to know--whether you plan to co-sleep or not

*Trigger warning: SIDS and infant mortality* In years gone by, the message has been loud and clear: bedsharing kills babies. But what does the science say? And why are big organisations like Unicef and the UK's Lullaby Trust now promoting safe bedsharing? Can you ever be safe when you sleep with your baby? And if you're part of the 75% of parents who do fall asleep with their babies at some point, exactly how do you reduce the risks? I invited Carly Grubb, creator of The Beyond Sleep Training Pr...

Aug 18, 20191 hr 19 minSeason 1Ep. 18

17 | Dr Harvey Karp: the world-famous paediatrician shares his tricks for soothing and settling (so everyone can get more sleep)

This man has done so much for our understanding of the way newborns develop, what their needs are--and how to meet them without losing our minds! He brought the term 'the fourth trimester' into the mainstream and his ideas on the famous '5 S's' are to thank for the resurgence in swaddling babies, white noise machines and more. And now he's taken it to the next level with a smart bassinet, the Snoo, that claims to help babies and their parents get more sleep. I loved chatting to Dr Karp and could...

Aug 11, 201946 minSeason 1Ep. 17

16 | Dasha Clarke: "My four week old was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis"

Dasha Clarke is a relationship doula who specialises in coaching couples through the challenges of early parenthood, and a mother of two boys. I was so moved that she chose to share her story of coming into motherhood, redefining her relationship and then being hit by a bombshell when her second baby was just a month old and he was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis. The way Dasha handled and continues to handle parenthood is a constant inspiration to me. If you'd like to find out more about her coa...

Aug 04, 20191 hrSeason 1Ep. 16

15 | Naturopath Hannah Boyd's top tips on having a better postpartum period

Hannah is my naturopath in Sydney's inner west and she formulated the Milky Tea that we're releasing this week! (Orders open on Tuesday). I only wish I'd found her sooner: I didn't meet her (or see a naturopath since before I fell pregnant) until Margot was four months old. She's got no-nonsense advice on how to set up for a great postpartum and super practical suggestions for getting through it with your mental and physical health intact. Hope you enjoy our chat! You can visit www.new-leaf.com....

Jul 28, 201934 minSeason 1Ep. 15

14 | Alana Saphin Polchleb: "I had to build my village from scratch"

In this week's episode, I interview Alana, a mum of two living and working in New York City. During her twenties, Alana imagined that having a baby wouldn't interfere much with her life and career--she'd schedule a c-section and get on with it. But yoga teacher training just before her wedding--and an introduction to natural birth--changed her plans. Alana shares how, with the help of hypnobirthing, she had a 'euphoric' first birth in Singapore. Yet despite having a good support system, she reve...

Jul 21, 20191 hr 19 min

13 | Jocelyn Brewer: from screen time to sharenting, how this digital psychology expert makes devices work for her family

Jocelyn Brewer is a psychologist and expert in "digital nutrition". She's also a mum to a two and a bit year old, so she's navigating the same challenges most of us are: how much screen time is too much? Is all our mindless scrolling while breastfeeding doing damage? And is it okay to have a crush on Bandit, Bluey's dad? Our chat covers a lot: we start with Jocelyn's positive birth and postpartum (and the biggest reason she thinks the latter went as smoothly as it did). Then we dive deep into th...

Jul 14, 201955 minSeason 1Ep. 13

12 | Megan Gale: "I felt like I was failing"

Megan Gale is one of Australia's most recognisable faces, having graced our screens, billboards and magazines for two decades. But while her life might look shiny and perfect, Megan's the first to admit that first-time motherhood tested her like nothing else - and when it came to falling pregnant a second time, her experience changed the course of her life and career. In this episode, Megan shares how she dealt with grief and loss during her first postpartum, why she wonders if she had postnatal...

Jul 07, 20191 hr 22 minSeason 1Ep. 12

11 | Sophie Lazarski's top tips on staying nourished as a new mother

Sophie Lazarski cooks for new mums over in Paris - yes, like I do for the mamas of Sydney! I was thrilled to discover Sophie and her work and despite the prohibitive time difference she's become a great sounding board and buddy... we love talking about what to make for new mums. So I wanted to get her on to talk about how she got into this work (hint: she has two boys and is an ex-pat) as well as her top tips for eating well and harnessing help. Know a mama in Paris? Have Sophie cook for her: ht...

Jun 30, 201936 min

10 | Laura Hoare: "I thought I was going crazy"

When Laura and her new husband decided to get pregnant, things started off smoothly. Having type 1 diabetes she knew she'd have to be extra careful, but all seemed well. As you'll hear in this episode, though, the road to having a baby had a few bumps. What was to come once Laura, an architect, welcomed Freddy into the world was the most unexpected part: trauma from an accident resurfaced when she faced complications during childbirth. Laura never expected to face mental health issues, but when ...

Jun 23, 20191 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 10

9: Yoga teacher Monique Blackwell chats unfiltered about three babies, therapy--and being my first client!

When I first met Monique, I was six months postpartum. Her yoga classes really helped me find my feet, get moving and ease into motherhood--so it was a huge honour when she asked me to be her postpartum doula for her third baby, Artie. In this episode, Mon and I have an unfiltered chat about mental health, yoga, food, pelvic floor control (or lack thereof!), therapy and what changed for her over the course of three babies.

Jun 16, 20191 hr 16 minSeason 1Ep. 9

8 | Karlie Rutherford: "We need to talk about the identity shift motherhood brings"

Karlie Rutherford is a journalist for one of Australia's biggest daily newspapers. When pregnancy complications forced her to slow down before her first daughter was born, she thought it had a silver lining: she was being placed in good stead for a life beyond deadlines and hectic schedules. Nevertheless, she was surprised by the huge identity shift motherhood brought. Karlie shares how she harnessed support from family and friends to make her postpartum relatively smooth - but how she wishes sh...

Jun 09, 20191 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 8

7 | Caitlin Dyer: "I felt really out of my depth"

Caitlin was prepped for birth and breastfeeding - but admits when it came to beyond that, she just hadn't thought about it. Without any family in the country, a husband who even take the day off when their son was born, recovering from an episiotomy and adjusting to life with a new baby without that support - it all took it's toll. But as Caitlin shares, it was a whole different story the second time around. These days, Caitlin is a Hypnobirthing Australia practitioner and a postpartum doula up ...

May 26, 201937 minSeason 1Ep. 7

4 | Chloe Tobin: postpartum after loss

Chloe's an old friend of mine who's had two beautiful daughters and is pregnant with another baby due later this year. But before this pregnancy, Chloe experienced two miscarriages, including a late loss. We talk (and cry) about having a newborn when your partner's in the armed forces, what people don't tell you about losing a pregnancy and how you still go through a postpartum period - without a baby. Thank you for sharing your story with me, Chloe. You are braver than you know.

May 05, 20191 hr 1 minSeason 1Ep. 4

3 | Shez Lee and her live-in confinement nanny from Malaysia

A woman who cooks special food for you, takes care of the baby so you can rest and plays with your toddler: no, not an angel but a confinement nanny in the Chinese tradition. I chat to mum of two, Shez Lee, about her experience with hiring live-in help and how it utterly transformed her postpartum period the second time around.

Apr 22, 201944 minSeason 1Ep. 3

1 | My Story

If you've checked out my Instagram, you've probably seen evidence of my less-than-picture-perfect postpartum. The first weeks at home with my new baby were beautiful, brutal and, ultimately, what set me on an entirely new career path. I'm Naomi Chrisoulakis and I'm a postpartum doula and cook. This podcast is dedicated to the fourth trimester--sharing stories and wisdom about what happens after you bring the baby home. So let's go back to where it all began for me...

Apr 22, 201947 minSeason 1Ep. 1
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