M he was called cold. That was the event. He was cold, barn, what's going on up there? Could be the most important event in history. Now I am the cold and destroy our worlds, I said. I hope this is close to hell. It's all never again. Hello and welcome to the Talesmith Dark Podcast. I'm your host, Bob. Here's like, oh, host Brittany. Hey, guys, what's up? I'm sorry, sorry, I'm your host Brian here with my host Brittany wondering you're gonna
let it go. I'm never letting it go. You've literally been bringing up all weekend to at anyone that will listen to the disrespect that occurred is going to hear about it. Okay, okay, if you guys don't know what we're talking about, go to Amazon Prime. You don't have to buy it, just go to Amazon Prime. Look up Fantom Farm. Look at the reviews. There's one where I'm referred to as a burned out Zach Baggins. So not saying my feelings are still hurt, but I'm saying I'm still talking
about it. So that's got to account for something. Oh man. But as Brittany just said, we spent the weekend over the Thomas House with Eric from the Enseen Paranormal podcast, the medics and paranormal guys, and a bunch of people who, unfortunately I don't remember your names. I think that one of the highlights of my weekend was Brittany having to be social again and some
and introduce themselves. They're like, I'm probably gonna fit your name. I'm says sorry, You're like, I'm gonna fit your him like five minutes. It's it's fine, It's totally fine. I cannot remember names for the life of me. I'll recognize your face, I'll recognize your voice, but I cannot remember names. Like thing one thing too is gonna be like the system
I have to use. Well, it was a ton of fun. We posted I posted I think twenty years so pictures over on Patreon and we'll have a discussion over that in the next Forbidden episode, kind of going into the crazy weekend that we had over at the Thomas House and fucking middle of nowhere, Tennessee. Yeah. Literally, yeah, it was a ton of fun though, So again, Eric, thanks for having us out. It was a blast and we'll definitely have to do that again. Um, I do
want to give a shout out. I do not remember the I'm gonna say young lady, but there's an older lady there the second night. I want to be that cool when I'm that age. Yeah serious, I'm not gonna go her old because she's not old, she's she's fucking lapping us. But she shows up with like the same style of equipment that I do, in the same hell the skepticism where she's at, Bob, how does this work? Why does it work this way? And I'm like, hang on a
goddamn minute, where are you. No one has ever asked me in all my days why it works? And then how does it work from the tech side. So, you know, I had a little bit of a nerd chubby and I'm like, let me, let me just walk through everything. Let me explain every single thing to you. Ever, Oh my god,
what nothing. I'm just saying, it's exciting when someone else is like a fellow nerd and she had all the cool little fucking gadgets and gear and yeah, and it's I have to I'm gonna have to reach out to her. I'm pretty sure she joined the Facebook group. I'm not have to reach out and see then because she had this really cool E M. F rimpod with a sensor and then she had an EVP meter, which all it really did
was it detected where the voice was coming from in the room. And it's a small circular dial and it must have like three sixty microphone um some kind of a censor. But it was really fucking cool, and it's it's one of those things. It's a niche device that wouldn't be like a constant that would come in handy, but it would come in handy. Yeah. Absolutely, So with that being said, yeah, Thomas House is a ton of fun. But you gotta answer a question because I've seen this a few times.
When's the next Hillsman Dark T shirts? Twenty twenty three? No new T shirts? Not you calling me out? Well, so people have been asking like, hey, you know, when's the next shirt drop? Last year? I think they said we had four or five last year, which I can't anything after Teddy Roosevelt Big Foot Hunter blends to kind of blends all
together for me. Last year, I'm still what's funny? We did a YouTube premier to night for Missing Person's Mysteries, and I'm like, I don't even want to recognize that it's spring or summer yet, because we did that once, we had two weeks of warm and than fucking snowed again, so my brain's kind of still stuck in the past. I don't know yet. We've definitely been working on it, and I know I've had some issues with my equipment for the printing, so I will definitely be getting on that.
So hopefully within the next couple of weeks. I'd probably say by the beginning of June, we'd we'd be looking at a new T shirt design. So I'll definitely well, well, we'll get some feelers out there. Yeah, I was thinking about maybe, I know, we had like four or five ideas maybe doing a poll that the problem with doing a poll is you can't really do it without the images, and we don't want to give away what it is the images, because one thing that I pride or our show one
and I'm very proud of you for is the unique designs. I see a lot of podcasts and just have like the podcast logo and that's the primarily what their merchandise is, and you're like, hey, fuck that tailsome the darkness to be the smallest bit of importance on this T shirt every design that you've made so far, So I don't know, I'm excited. Let's talk about some strange lawsuits here, because I think the verse one that came to mind
for me, and it's kind of funny. I didn't really know all the backstory, but the hot coffee McDonald's thing, that's the first one I think of, because it's almost like it's just so ridiculous, and but you can't falter, like that's just the way the American like way is to make money. Well, so that's what I thought too, that you couldn't falter until I looked and I did the research. Okay, apparently the either the machine
was malfunctioning or they were purposefully doing it. But it was something like fifteen x hotter than McDonald's. I'm sure, you know, like McDonald's corporate. This was like fifteen or twenty times hotter then the coffee was supposed to be. So she did suffer like severe burns, and I believe that, And again I don't want to miss speak here, but I think the actual cup
had like malformed because it was so hot. So yeah, I kind of grew up hearing about, you know, the woman who sued McDonald's because the coffee was hot, and I'm like, oh, that's so fucking stupid. And then you then I got into the details, I'm like, oh, that's fucking horrible. Yeah, but to your to your credit, here, we are going to discuss some some lawsuits today that are just fucking insane. And you're right, we do kind of live in this like recreationally offended time
period where everyone to lawsuits. Well, what's crazy is when when I talked to people from other countries and they're like, yeah, we don't really do that here. What do you mean You're gonna sue someone for what? What? What? Why your judged by a different name? Why do your judge lawsuit or judges have time for this shit? What are you talking about? Yeah, it's kind of crazy. That's really just like a American problem. I'm sure other countries have it too, but from my research, America really
stands out for just like the dumbest fucking lawsuits out there. What a what a way to be known? What a name? We got we got first in something? Okay, yeah apparently Okay, So do you remember a while back we did a story. This would have been a few years ago. I think on the Forest Fin treasure Hunt. Yes, and there was a lawsuit that came out of that. Right, Did you know how much fucking drama followed the Forest Fin treasure Hunt. I had no idea when we covered
it. I know we talked about it a little bit that people were like super offended by it, but I don't know. So if you guys aren't familiar, Forest Finn was this kind of like like nationally renowned treasure hunter, and part of his legacy was to try and get people involved in treasure hunting. And I think from from what I read, and again i'm we're not fucking treasure hunters, but from what I understood, the purpose was to get
people out in nature and get them interested in this hobby. It was kind of the whole goal behind the forest find treasure, preservation of the trinkets and things that you find out and while you're doing treasure hunting. Yeah, so again that's kind of what I gathered. But people took this extremely seriously, quit their jobs, divorced spouses to have more free time to go and hunt this treasure. And when they didn't find it, because it's a fucking lost
treasure, all hell broke loose. Oh god, let me ask you if I told you, hey, I want to quit everything and go hunt treasure, what would your response be. I don't know, because you told me you want to go fucking hunt a payphone and Detroit, Michigan. So and here we are and here we are, so I don't know. Maybe I might be the wrong person. I'm the exact wrong person asked that question to
me. It was just really sad because I saw this as like a really beautiful thing of like to bring people together, all united against the common you know, enemy, which is where the fuck is this treasure? No, everyone's your enemy. It's a cutthroat, it's a cutthroat experience. Let's be
honest here. Well, what's funny is I watched a YouTube video a little while ago that was like the Forest Finn Nightmare, and the top comment was like, I'm waiting for the dramatic Netflix like reimagination, Yes of this where like Leonardo DiCaprio is like shooting fucking Chris Pratt in the face over this treasure
and Yellowstone. Oh my god, it sounds ridiculous. But let's let's dive into this actual lawsuit and you're gonna understand very quickly why my faith in humanity is lower than normal today, which is it's usually about like at a three out of a thousand, out about a one, right now, Okay, In the spirit of a famous movie about fight Club, it seemed to make sense that the first rule of treasure hunting would be don't talk about the treasure
hunt. After all, you don't want others to find it before you do. And it would make even more sense for the second rule of treasure hunting to be, don't talk about the treasure hunt after the treasures found, because it's too late. Right. Let me back up for a second. If you had found the treasure, because you know, the whole thing was you're supposed to let the forest fend foundation, know that, would you have told
him? I don't know, because from what I remember, the guy really was scared, like for his life, even though the treasure was only worth like a hundred thousand, or some people said two millions. So that's where I'm a little confused, because even the article that I'm gonna read references two million. I know for a fact it wasn't two million dollars when we covered
this the first time. Yeah, I thought it was only like fifty or one hundred K, which, because we talked about it in the podcast about that's really not that's like one year's salary maybe too, depending on the job. And so if you quit your job for years to go search for this treasure and spent time in lodging and paid for travel, that you really didn't
recuperate the cost. Yeah, I don't think I would tell people solely be I don't like people very much, and everyone would want to come and interview you and then be your best friend, and you'd suddenly have a lot of family you never knew existed, that needs, you know, a kidney and all kinds of weird stuff. Yeah, I don't. I want to do an episode one day on lottery mishaps. And this is kind of a little side story, but in the town I grew up in, there was a
lottery winner. And what it was was this group at a foundery would band together every Friday or whatever first frind Yeah, and they would band together and like ten of them would buy lottery tickets. Well, one week or one month whatever, it was, only three of them bought lottery tickets and they
fucking won. There was a shootout that happened, and home robberies, break ins, a kidnapping, all of this shit occurred for whatever reason, and it was because they were not only mad that it was only three or four people that you know, played the lottery that week, but they felt like the people who one should have shared it with the other seven that didn't play that week. And it was a terrifying thing. And I'm like, I'm gonna look into this. There's a lot of these like insane stories of what
happens when people win the fucking lottery. Yeah, you basically have to go underground. Yeah yeah, Well I love those those memes where it's just like I wouldn't tell anyone if I won the lottery, but to be hens and it's like a double wide trailer with a fucking Bentley standing out in front of it, like yep, that's the hip. Yeah exactly. So anyway,
the famous Finn treasure hunt violated both of these rules. Hunters, journalists, and Fenn himself couldn't stop talking about it for the ten years it was hidden somewhere in the Rocky Mountains by the eccentric millionaire Forest Finn. The treasure was located in twenty twenty. The fine year was revealed and Finn died shortly after end of the story, Right, Nope, stop talking about the finn treasure, not on our life, especially when the talk finally reveals the real location
of where the treasure was found. So the lawyer Carl Summer, who represents the Finnish state, had an interview in Outsider's magazine and it starts with James McCraw back, one of the hundreds of thousands of unsuccessful finn treasure hunters. McCracken has followed a lawsuit in a New Mexico court against the Finnish state, accusing Fenn from running an unfair contest. So this is where it got kind of like, up to this point, I'm like, oh, it's just
a sore loser. But it gets weird. He claims Finn moved the treasure four times when he thought mccrackin was getting close. He also claims that Fenn purchased property to spy on him, and that Finn lined to all hunters when he said the chest was filled with up to two million dollars of riches and then it was never moved from the original hiding place. Then he says Fenn was still alive after the media announced his death. Oh so he went full
blown conspiracy thing. He thought Finn was out to get him. I understand the first and like, oh, well, you know, oh, I went through the riddle. It should be here, here's signs of it being moved. But then I'm saying, then he bought property to spy on me and he faked his death. Interesting that that's a lot right there. So despite what you may think of all that, here's the bizarre shit that Jimmy
McCracken is representing and doing a pretty good job of it. He presented to a court photos at the Finn treasure in its hiding place, so he claims that he found it, took pictures and then left. He also presented emails were seen Forrest Finn and Jack Stuff, who found the treasure in twenty twenty.
Before taking it to Fenn, Stuff sent those photos of him with a legal sounding email sating he would bring in the treasure to Finn and let him decide whether to give it to him or keep it in case you're wondering. Stuff got the stuff. That should have been the end of it. But Stuff was sued in December of twenty twenty and claimed his texts and emails were
hacked, forcing him to talk to someone about the treasure hunt. Stuff is now on the shaky ground, both legally and possibly volcanically, as another person joins the talk about the treasure hunt. Sarah Davis is Yellowstones National Park chief ranger, and the lawsuit reveals that both Finn and Stuff talked to her before the fine was announced let her know that the treasure was in her park.
Not only would that spell trouble for Yellowstone as curious tourists and hoards of frustrated hunters trampled their way to see what they could figure out themselves, but it puts Stuff in legal trouble. Any property found in a national park is supposed to be turned into the park supervisor. Peter frick Wright, the author of the outside article, speculates that the treasure chests contained a paper treasure instructions on
how to skirt around that provision. On May fourth, Judge Francis J. Matthew denied the government's motion to intervene in this case to keep the location secret. Matthew sated the instruction poem released in twenty ten, Hardy revealed the location, albeit cryptically that means the public will soon know the exact location of Finnish treasure in Yellowstone Park, and they're supposed to be like a follow up to this. It made it to a grand jury and then it fell back off.
But now the woman who represents Yellowstone is suing the Finnish state for a two million dollar donation to the park. Oh my god. Well, I mean that's a good that's a good ending in my opinion. Well, the issue with this is when he hid the treasure apparently, and again I'm reading five different articles here, so it's hard to know who's right. The land
wasn't owned by Yellowston at that time, so then they can't. But it was donated after it was publicly donated and announced, so the treasure should have been moved and it wasn't. So now there's that shaky legal battle of well is it Yellowstones or is it not Yellows. It's not Yellowstones because the treasure took precedent there. In my opinion, I don't know. I don't know
how this works because it's it's national part. I don't know. Because if you sell land and you have a big oak tree on your land, you sell the land the oak tree goes to the new owner, so I don't know. So in that case, you would think that the treasure went to Yellowstonia. I don't know. That's fucking crazy. Okay, So that's kind of the longest one we have it. It's not really that funny, but it's a kind of a follow up to a previous episode. So this one
just as family flees haunted house and sues landlord. I want to know where you think this is going, because we kind of had had a slow start. Now we're gonna get into the fucking weeds real fast. I don't know. I have no idea. So did you ever grow up hearing the because I always thought this as like a real law, and I guess in some
states it is that you had to disclose if the house was haunted. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's not the case all over like all over the country, but some states are like adamant that you have to do that. I know, I thought the only thing I really know of is haunted kind of, but if someone died there, you have to disclose that. Yeah, that's that's what I thought as well. Yeah, and died there,
you'd probably think it'd be haunted. Well, It's like the houses in New Orleans that I've looked at, and then you'll look at the like the realty poster out front, and it'll say not haunted underneath, it's that the house is haunted. Okay, So a New Jersey couple is suing their landlord for a refund after they said paranormal activity caused them to flee their rental home. Michelle Callendar, her fiancee, Josh and Chilla. That's his real last name.
I'm not trying to be funny. Its last name is literally hi nhi Llla moved into a home in the Thomas River, New Jersey area with Collen's two children in March first and more immediately spooked. Three taps on the TV taps on the shore. Arch and Chilla told ABC News. At first they chalked it up to the adjustment period of moving into a new home, but
things only got spook here, doors opened and closed. The family even claimed they recorded strange voices whispering let it burn that they refused to show to the landlord and said the only show to a federal judge. The new tenants said that between the menacing voices, flickering lights, and closed mysteriously flying from their closets. They couldn't take it anymore. They fled the three bedroom home and checked into a hotel, where they said they were living since March thirteenth.
Callen and Chinchilla filed a lawsuit last week in New Jersey Superior your Court seeking the return of their twenty two hundred and fifty dollars security deposit from their landlord, Richard Lopez. Lopez filed a countersuit claiming the couple is using alleged paranormal activity as a way to break their lease. Frankly, there's something else going on. Lopez's lawyers said, she's a single mom, she has the fiance living with her. I think she's in over her head and she can't afford
the rent the couple. So that isn't the case. But ultimately a judge will have the final ward and rather or not, the family will be escaping this alleged nightmare. So there is no follow up to this. I don't know whatever. Eventually I tried to look and look Um Lopez, the landlord apparently like had pictures of the fiance not working. It was weird because the pictures were dated before the alleged activity occurred, so that's just going, yeah,
that's just kind of fucking weird all on its own. And then there were some like other tenants that they had contacted who said, yeah, we never had anything like that, but we would feel uneasy at times, and when we contacted the landlord about a gas league, he told us the house is too new to have a gas leak, so don't worry about it. Okay, Well that's a valid bassuit. Like it seems like this landlord's kind
of fucking slummy, slummy. But also, I've never heard of someone saying, yeah, it's haunted, so give me my rent money back, So I definitely said a precedent for sure. Well, it kind of reminds me. There was another story that I couldn't find a full article on that said that the current renters were suing the previous renters who were ghost hunters, and
that they caused that they brought a ghost home with them. Then they said that their dog was possessed and their dog bit somebody and that was why. But then you look into it, the dog was off a leash and was like known to bite people. It was a whole fucking weird thing. But yeah, they blamed demonic possession of their I think it was a Pomeranian and that's why they wanted out of their lease. Interesting, I don't know, So I'm going to kind of throw this off to you. We're gonna go
back and forth here a little bit, some faster ones here. But uh, do you remember the subway sandwich lawsuit at all? Not not the foot long one, but the other one? No? Okay, So a man found a seven inch serrated plastic knife baked into a subway sandwich and decided to sue the company for damages. He found a one million dollar lawsuit. He also said he contracted food poisoning from the sandwich, leading to severe stomach aches.
The first lill injury claim was settled outside of court. You know what this reminds me of? Do you remember that time he went to Lima to go to I Hop. Let me tell you guys, shit. So I had this bad habit of when I see something food related on like television or a commercial, I'm the best guy to advertise to you, because I'll fucking fall for it every time, every fun every single time. Well, they had these Adams Family um hot chocolate which had like a purple. It was
icing. It wasn't even whipped cream. It was like icing hockey puck of icing at the top. And so I'm like, we have to go, Can we please go? And You're like, yeah, sure. Unknown to Brittany that she wasn't, you know, at this point super familiar with where we lived and didn't know that the closest eye hop was forty five minutes north. No, it was longer than that. So we pack in the car, we go up there and I get my fucking Adams Famley hot chocolate.
I'm I'm living high on the hog here. I take a drink and there's just like metal beacon of a triangle inside of this and I'm like, someone's trying to kill me? What is going on? Well, what do you say? It was the icing topper, the icing tip into the piping bag for icing. I should have swallowed it. I should have swallow team. Yeah, And like, look, I hop I had no way to know that that giant metal, six inch fucking thing wasn't part of the Adams Family
hot chocolate. Missed your opportunity. Yeah, have you ever real American dream? Have you ever on any food, like any weird stuff in your food. I hope not, and I don't even want to think about it. It's only ever happened then. And then one other time when I went to Buffalo Wild Wings and I bit into my wrap that had a fucking toothpick still in the middle. Okay, well that just sounds like your part or your fault. It was broken, and I didn't like there was no top of
the toothpick there. Okay, yeah, no, nope, I'm not taking about anyway. What do you got for? So I'll let you do a couple I've been I've been doing all the talking women. Woman shocked jellybeans contained sugar, and this was in twenty seventeen. Sugar and a jellybean and candy. Yep. Okay, sugar has sixty one different names, so it stands to reason that some people may not recognize the ingredient when reading nutrition labels.
This happened to California woman who sued jellybeans maker Jelly Beat Belly for using the term evaporated cane juice and instead of the words sugar and it's jelly beans food label just get go. As if San Bernardino County aged alleged fraud, claiming the company was misleading consumers about how much sugar the snack actually contained, even though the total crams of sugar per serving was clearly displayed. The case was dismissed. Okay, I thought you're gonna say it was settled outside of court,
and I was about to lose all fucking hope for humanity. Next, one man sues date for being on her phone. Okay, you know what you went seventeen. You would do this to me sometimes when you're like trying to talk to me and I'm just all in Fucking Facebook are weird news, So I understand where he's coming from. Many people have a story about a date gone wrong, but most would forget about the whole ordeal as soon as
it was over. A thirty seven year old man from Austin, Texas, however, could not let go of his bad experience and sued his date. Yeah that's really how you seal the deal. Well, I mean, lawsuits are for lovers. I don't know new Hawthorne hight song. He was so offended that his dates spent the time that they were the movies watching Guardians of the Galaxy Volume two texting on her phone. He claimed her behavior was breaking
theater rules and affected his movie watching experience. She agreed to pay him the seventeen thirty one for her cinema ticket if he left her alone. Soon after, he withdrew the lawsuit. Did he get his seventeen dollars venmode back? That's probably I'm assuming that's why he dropped it. This is why I fucking hate people right here, because you know that's the same guy who's like, I don't know why I can't find a girl. I'm a nice guy.
I love Marvel movies. All I wanted some you know, some companionship. Is it too much to ask for you not to be on your phone? Really? I fucking hate people. This episode is gonna I should we should just rename this Losing Our Faith in Humanity Part seventeen. Yeah? Literally, Okay, I got one here. The weatherman was wrong. This case demonstrates
that there are no limits when it comes to personal injury claims. And Israeli woman sued the weatherman from an Israeli television channel because he didn't predict the weather correctly. He had reported good weather, but it rained. Oh man. That reminds me we had a weatherman growing up. He was a weatherman for like thirty years where I'm from, and his name is Bob, and he was a meme before memes existed. He was like okay, because literally he
would always predict the wrong thing every single time. He said with snow, it didn't snow. He said it wasn't gonna snow. He said it was gonna be seventy degrees, it'd be negative two. I mean, he was so off the mark all the time that everyone talked about it and they hated him, and so I don't know what happened to him. He lasted for like thirty years. Well, I have a question for you, when we finish this real fast. According to the plain of as a result of the
weather report, she didn't dress correctly and suffered the flu. She sued for a thousand dollars compensation for missing a week of work and the money money she spent on medication. She won the case against the TV station and she got her damages paid for. Are you serious? Yes? Okay, let me ask you this because I am still fucking flabbergasted. If you hear that there's an eighty percent chance of rain, what do you think that it's gonna rain?
But do you think like it's guaranteed it's gonna rain, or that there's an eighty percent chance it's gonna rain, that there's an eighty percent chance it's gonna rain. You're wrong. There's a one hundred percent chance it's gonna rain, but it's only going to affect eighty percent of every area. I did not know this, and I feel like I've lived my entire life as a fucking line. Yeah, I didn't know that. Hey, let me ask you a question, Brittany, did you ever think that Arctica and aunt Arctica?
Okay, we don't talk about that. Well, you don't talk about that. Okay, pose this question. I want to hear responses, and then Wednesday's sound stupid. People are going to mote me for my side. It's not stupid because I asked the same question to three people at work and they all agreed with you. So they really yes. So there is a group of people not me. I need to make this, put this out
there because I'm you know, the mountain you don't even know. But pose the question about the North Pole and all this stuff, and then we will we will follow up the responses on Wednesday. Okay, all right, So in the Facebook group, or wherever you're listening to this um in the Patreon wherever. What My first question is, what do you think is at the northernmost point of Earth, at the North Pole? What do you think is there? Do you think there is a land there? Secondly, how can
there be an Antarctica without Antarctica? All right? That's that. That has been my my fucking conspiracy theory. This last week. I felt like my whole life was a lie that I know nothing about science, and it's it's been a rough go Yeah, let us know because I'm actually interested now. And then, like I said, well, there's barely a whole reddit threat about it, but don't look it up. Answer it, and then you can look it up and we'll talk about No one's gonna be stupid except for
not me. I say, oh many, Yeah, you're just too afraid to come into this well, because it's one of those that I think could really put a wedge in our relationship and I'm just not really at a point that I am confident enough of myself to handle this. You thought, okay, we'll talk about Wednesday, But you thought the same as me on one of those parts. So it's been fucking bother ever since? Side note?
Did you so? I want to do an upset about Antarctica in general because there is this big internet conspiracy that's wrong saying that you and I couldn't go to an Arctica. You can, We absolutely can't. We just got to contact the tour group and fucking go. It is very easy if you have the money to go. Yeah, But the thing about an article, the real conspiracy is not the ice walls and flat earth. We're not. We're not going there yet. Give us a few more years and eventually we'll cover
space is fake and flat earth and all of that. But we didn't. And I'm gonna I'm gonna make up some numbers here and it's gonna make sense later because we'll cover this. And we didn't discover an article till the eighteen six h six, that's what say. But and maps that we found from the fifteen hundreds, I know, I know there's a three hundred year gap,
but I know that that part's correct. Antarctica was on the maps incredibly detailed, and those maps came from maps that were hundreds of years older. So if we didn't discover it as a as a world, allegedly till the eighteen hundreds or whenever. How the hell wasn't on the map? Why is not only why is it on the map, but why is it accurate?
And it's so accurate on some of these maps from the fifteen hundreds that down to glacier melting points that occurred a thousand years before the divots are put on the map. So sure, that could have been an accident whatever, but that's a weird fucking accident to happen. Like, I also want to look at the square mile ledge of Antarctica because it looked to me. I never really studied Antarctica a lot. I didn't. I wasn't interested in like polar
bears, penguins all yeah, Like I wasn't interested in that ecosystem. I was interested in fertile ecosystems, like you know, the rainforests, temperate forests, things like that, but also the Amazon, like it's not a fucking rainforest. Geography is not my strong suit, I'll be honest, but Antarctica, from what I've seen over my last week obsession is fucking huge. I want to know square footage of it or square mileage? Yeah, let me
just ask you and then we'll get back into the strange laws. Do you think the whole UFO system base civilization, depending on which conspiracy we're discussing, has any basis and an an Antarctica, or do you think that it's more likely that we had an advanced civilization at one point that did have a hub
there. I think I don't know, because that would be the perfect place to hide because it's an inhabitable by you know, an average person, and until until relatively recently in our technological advancement, that this cycle of technological advancement, there was no way to really go there. Consistent check. Yeah,
yeah, So, I mean it would be a good hiding spobe. But I also think under the sea floor is also a better one, because you know, we can't we can't go down there, and we don't talk about that trauma deep sea fucking oh okay, anyway, speaking a deep sea the wrong idea about killer whales. A man's dream was to swim beside a killer whale, and it went so wrong. He managed to remain behind after Sea
World closed for the day by hiding from the security guards. When all was quiet, he entered the tank of the Orcas, but was killed by the whales. His parents sued SeaWorld for not publicly warning people that killer whales let me, let me start over. His parents sued SeaWorld for not publicly warning that killer whales one more time, killer whales can kill people. They also accused Sea World of presenting killer whales as friendly creatures by selling stuff whales in
the gift shop. You can buy a meglodon stuffy too. You think they're still friendly, or a bear or a lion. It's like the whole murder hornet thing. Do you remember this on YouTube? Was Kyote Peterson was his name, and he got ontube because he would go to these places to get
bit and stung by shit. So there was a guy who ended up suing some organization because he wanted to see if the hype was real behind murder hornets and was shocked when it was the most pain he had ever felt in his entire life and try to sue for it, and he said that he had no reason to believe it because he had been stung by regular hornets at his farm that he grew up on. I don't think that it should take a very high iq something has murder in its fucking name to probably just assumed not
to fuck with it, Like, why would you think, Yeah, it's probably pretty friendly. It's probably just average hornet. Yeah, and I understand that killer whales probably get their name from something else entirely, or actually probably doesn't, because scientists are very literal, depending on the generation they're from. But why would you get into that. My faith in humanities is just progressively falling down the ladder. Well, let's talk about the foot long sandwich.
Oh God, I know where this is going, and I hate it. The foot long sandwich is not a foot long, and the year was twenty sixteen. It started in twenty thirteen when a teenager measured his subway foot long and it turned out to only be eleven inches an inch. Did you say it was a teenager? Yeah? Yeah, we know what else he's using that ruler for. I'm just I'm just saying teenagers, teenage boys are obsessed with measuring things. Fast forward three years and the company was settling a class
action lawsuit in court, promising to make its rolls twelve inches. That's not how I remember it. They said it would be twelve inches pre baked because the doe shrinked. That's that's what I remember as well. The only people to benefit from the lawsuit were the attorneys, who received about five hundred and twenty thousand dollars in fees. The judge agreed with the activists and legal writer Theodore Frank that this is not fair and dismissed the settlement in the entire case.
Okay, so do you remember the whole five dollars foot long thing when that set ring a bell? So I remember this was in my hometown, and I remember this clear as day. There's a subway that used to be a taco bell, and I'm pretty sure I'm not making this up, but you can still smell the taco bell, like taco bell leaves behind an odor,
an aroma that simply never leaves the building. Okay, they had a giant sign, and when I say giant, I mean three your foot wide on the you know, like how they're the glass case, so you can see the ingredients that showed, h you know, the sizes of footlongs. And then it had the temperature they baked it at in the mathematical formula that shows shrinkage. And it said if you basically try and return this like, we will not honor your return. If it's less than a foot long.
Oh my god. People still tried, and it literally said that if a manager's not on duty. It got so bad that they had to have a manager there to accept any returns of any sort because so many people were trying to return their sandwich as they take him home. Measure. Yeah, I would not work there. I would just I would just quit on the spot. Why. I think the answer would have been to have a pre you know, have a ruler, and before you fucking start making the sandwich,
you show the person it's a foot long. Then you make the sandwich. Argue, do you accept this bread? Yeah, like it's five dollars? Stop being so picky. Okay, what else he got? Customer disappointed that Red Bull did not energize them. I thought you were gonna say, did not give him wings, And I was about to I was going to end the episode. Year was twenty sixteen. Red Bull's famous slogan red Bull Gives You Wings got the company in some troub bowl. A class action lawsuit accused
the company of having misleading ads and making false claims. Plaintiffs said the energy drink did not give people wings. Oh my god, they well guys, it's been a great episode. Happy Monday to everyone, and I will see you later. Even figuratively speaking, that is, they did not feel energized. They said the company lacked evidence to claim the beverage could improve one's focus.
Red Bulls settled out of the core and agreed to pay six hundred and forty thousand dollars six hundred and forty thousand dollars because someone didn't have the approach. Okay, this is twenty sixteen. Someone needs to find out when four locos were outlawed. Do you know what a four loco is? Yeah? Oh yeah, there was this thing and this is for them. They can kill you. It's basically drinking gasoline, is okay. First off, it was the nectar of the fucking gods. How many did you even drink?
That's not you don't drink four loco, you drink whizz. Back in the day, four loco was my jam. Yeah, this is for the younger audience here. There was this thing called four loco and it's it's around now,
but it's not the fucking same. It's really not. And it was basically gasoline and a camp like two hundred and fifty milligrams of caffeine mixed with like the nastiest Uncle Johnny liquor you've ever had in your fucking life, and you would drink two of these and you would want to fight everything and everyone. Yeah, like you would break into what you would break into a fucking zoo and fight a killer whale. I don't know between that and did you
have you ever heard of jacked? Do you know what jack does? No? I don't that. So jacked was this pre workout back in the day when I used to I used to be in the gym seven days a week, three three times a day, and there was this pre workout called jacked, and they had to they had to take it off the shelves because people's hearts were like stopping and fucking exploding on this pre workout and it would tell you, you know exactly how much to take, so on and so forth.
No one ever. It's funny because now dry scooping is a new fad and not new. It's not new because back then guys would just drive scoop two things a fucking jacked and then get slapped in the vase and hit a pr and then hopefully not die afterwards. So I don't know. People are just soft nowadays. That's the problem. Okay. Underwater injuries. A visit to the Los Angeles branch of Victoria's Secret turned into a nightmare for one Underwear
not underwater, Victoria's Secrets not underwater anyway. A visit to the Los Angeles branch of Victoria's Secret turned into a nightmare for one customer. The incident happened in two thousand and eight when a woman was trying on a pair of panties. A metal piece holding a rhinestone heart. Okay, I'm sorry, I can't. A metal piece holding a rhinestone heart and place flew off and struck her in the eye. The woman, a traffic officer by vocation, suffered
a cut cornea treated with a topical steroid. Her attorney filed a liability lawsuit seeking an undetermined amount of damages for the sudden, shocking, and painful incident that left her with a severe injury. Not only did Victoria's Secret pay it, they gave her a pair of lingerie for free. Oh my god, would have been so petty and center. The same ones that fucked her up, the same ones like personally put like fifty more hearts on it. I
would have put her name in Rhyan stones. I would have win all fucking out. Okay, we have another one here, a frightening experience. After a visit to the Haunted House of Horrors at Universal Studios in Florida, a woman sued them for psychological trauma. She claims she was chased with a chainsaw, albeit defanged. I love that, that's how they classified it. Defanged by one of the actors dressed like a werewolf, and she fell. She
sued not only the actor but everyone that was involved at the venue. She had no injuries from her fall, and subsequently the court dismissed her injury claim. Psychological trauma, the court rule can be expected when visiting the Haunted House
of Horrors. That's just the best advertisement. If I'm a judge and I have to sit there and hear somebody try to tell me that I willingly went to a haunted house and experienced psychological trauma from a haunted attraction, Yeah, I'm a laugh their ass out of the court, like this is ridiculous.
Well see what this reminds me? Off, there's a haunted house. I believe it's in Tennessee that you sign a waiver and they're willing to give you an undisclosed amount of money if you can make it through the night, but they can torture you, simulated drowning, beat the shit out of you the whole nine. People have been asking us to cover this for as long as I can remember. The reason I won't cover it is I had a family friend who went there, and this wasn't the kind of guy to exaggerate.
He was like a fifteen year medically retired marine, good guy, and they disqualified him at the end of the night because they said that he had said the safe word here, like a safe word that they'll stop and everything you're done. Basically, they said he had said the safe word because he had made it through the entire night. That's why I won't cover that, because that's literally that dude gets I mean, he gets turned on by torture.
And he's said that in public interviews, the guy who owns this haunted house, and he's been sued multiple fucking times because he'll go out of the scope of what he says you'll go through. And I've heard like simulated assaults to like said simulated drownings, him almost killing people to make sure he doesn't have to pay this fucking money. It is. Yeah, it's insane, disgusting.
Yeah, and the fact that he when you watch the interviews, he's happy about this, Like he's happy to say, oh, yeah, I'm the place that he can go. I can legally torture you in the Continental US because you say I can. And it's like, what the actual fuck is wrong with this, dude? Yeah, no, thank you. Is a firefighter's fear of fire. A disability, Hey, run that back is a firefighter's fear of fire. A disability is a scuba diver's fear of getting
wet, a reason that he can't show up for work on Tuesday. This happened in twenty Team Shane Prowler from Houston Fire Department is afraid of fire. He was reassigned to an office position so he would not have to come in direct contact contact with what scared him, but he wanted to remain in his former job with a fire suppression unit. He claimed his fear was a disability
and that he was being discriminated discriminated against because of his disability. His case made it to the Texas Supreme court, which ruled there was no evidence Prowler was discriminated against on account of a disability. Well, wouldn't if your fear of fire, wouldn't that be the best job for you, because you're like, I'm gonna fuck that fire up. No, I think it would beating.
I think that's if anything, that's it's abilitating. That gives you the ability to face your fear and not only face it, but like literally snuff it from existence. It's dehabilitating. They would not. I would not want a firefighter who is afraid of fire to come save me. Yeah, but I don't think there's like a yelp for fire individual firefighters only like, oh, Joey, be down there at the fire department. You know, three stars because you fucking trampled my cat. I don't think you can do that.
It's up to the discretion of the fire department. They should have vetted him better. Yeah, But also in their defense, if you're signing up to be a firefighter, I don't think that the first question, Hey, I know it's a silly would ask you, are you afraid of fire? No, I would ask that. Some of the interviews I've done, I would absolutely ask that oh man, what this is a story to say for
when I'm gonna long up my current job. But yes, I have a handful of interview questions that I've had to add over the years, solely because yeah, all right, explosive bathroom moments using the Flushmate three toilet proved explosive from any of its users, and the reason had nothing to do with what they had eaten. A manufacturing error was the cause for these explosions, and
many people were left injured. Legal team has managed to get five million dollars for the injured parties after a toilet exploded, sending a woman thirteen feet into her ceiling. All right, so must imagine this. You just had taco bell, We're we're good, doing a call back. You're you put down three beefy five lair burritos extrnacho cheese. Nature's calling. You know it's gonna be bad. You know, you know the decisions you made, and the toilet fights back. I'm sick. I'm sick of your shit. From a
literal standpoint, what my question is what inside of a Now? Admittedly I'm not a toilet connoisseurce so I'm not familiar. Someone else can correct me, what the fuck inside of a toilet can explode? Did they fuck up and they put tannerite in there and just the methane from the taco bell happened to hit it a certain degree? How do you explain that to your husband of
why? Yes, now, not only replace the fucking toilet, but the ceiling because you're ninety five pound ass got thrown into the fucking ceiling by your toilet. How tall are your ceilings and it launched you thirteen feet and you hit your head on the ceiling. That sounds like a jackass moment. Well, what it reminds me. I don't know if you've seen these videos, but there's guys that work at Junkyards who will put air bags underneath office chairs.
Have you seen these? Yeah? I can only imagine how. And then you gotta beat You know, you're embarrassed because you definitely shit all over the wall on the way up. But there's so much that went wrong. I'd sue for more. That's twenty million dollars right there? That minimum? All right? What else you got? Kidnappersues, hostages for escaping twelve You
guys have one job as hostages and you fucked it up. So Jesse Dimmick, a futitive facing a murder charge, kidnapped a Kansas couple in September twenty, two thousand and nine. This, this, this lawsuit is the least of his troubles if he's facing a murder charge. At some point he fell asleep and they escaped. They sued Himmick for over seventy five thousand dollars in damages. His response was to counter sue for breach of contract? Did they
agree? He claimed that he and the couple had legally binding oral agreement for them to hunt for them to hide him from the police. His case was dismissed. I love I love this guy. I love the fucking balls on this guy. Oh you're gonna fucking sue me? Are you sure? Holy shit? Facing murder and you aren't. We're about getting off for the murder charge. Your countersuing to avoid paying seventy five grand? How do you think lawyers come up with that number? That's what I want to know. I
have no idea. They have to have a there a graph like, oh, if you guys were there for nine hours, it would have been eighty, but since it was seven and a half hours, it was seventy five. No idea. There's gotta be a fucking lawyers of lawyers have ties to hit us up. Let us know how you guys come up with damages for kidnapping cases. Okay, so the next one is husband sue's wife over ugly baby. I get this. If you ever gave me an ugly child.
I'm not saying that I just recently discovered Spartan lineage. I'm not saying that something would happen to that child. I would never. That's a terrible thing to say. Oh my god, all I'm saying you sure we can get plastic surgery done elsewhere? This is horrible. Yeah, I don't know, because that is kind of unforgiven because you have to look at that kid every fucking day. What the fuck is wrong? Because it was clearly the wife's fault in the situation. Okay, the year was twenty twelve. I'm done
with you. Do you then sue the baby for the voice? Boy beats a pretty girl, boy marries the girl, They have kids. One similar tale did not have such a happy ending, however. Jane Fang from China saw his newborn daughter, who he said was incredibly ugly, and did not look like either parents. He accused his wife of cheating on him on him at that point, she admitted that she had several plastic surgeries before they had met. He sued on the grounds of false pretenses, claiming she misled him
by hiding her cosmetic history. He won the case, and his wife had to pay him more than one hundred and twenty thousand dollars. I get it, I fucking understand that. See if it was just like, you're not that good looking, your wife's a seven, you're a six, you're rolling the dice. But the prosthetic how much prosthetic surgery did she have to have though, because you would imagine, well, I guess it's a good surgeon. There wouldn't be any like like I want to say symptoms, but that's
not the right word. And he's scarring anything left behind. I don't know. I don't like this. I don't like that one bit. Okay, Lost pants causes mental suffer When a client took his pants to Washington, DC dry cleaner, he never imagined he would never see them again. He sued them for fifty four million dollars when they lost his pants because the company did
not meet their satisfaction guaranteed promise displayed in front of the store. He also claimed the loss pants caused him mental suffering, and unfortunately for him, he lost the case. Who in the right mind thinks fifty four million dollars for a pair of pants is acceptable? Do you have any clothes at all that you're that attached to? That found? No? Okay, all right?
A case of mistaken identity. Wherever Alan heckerd went, he was mistaken for the famous basketball star Michael Jordan. The confusion caused him emotional issues, and he found a personal injury claim against Michael Jordan and Nike. There was no resemblance with the sports star and the claim was dropped. Okay, this dude's like five foot for and he's a ginger. I guarantee it. Oh yeah, okay. Hunter is hunted. A lion mauled during a big Okay,
a lion mauled during a big game hunting safari in Africa? What the fuck? He decided to Suthe the ammunition manufacturer, Federal Cartridge Company. The plaintiff was seriously injured when the bullet he fired at the charging lion failed to stop the animal after hitting it in it's shoulder. The angry lion attacked and mauled the hunter. A federal court dismissed the case as he was shooting the lion with nine millimeter Oh my god, that is a pistol round that has been
proven to not stop some adult men and women with just one round. And you brought that to a lion fight. That's what he signed up for. Lion fight six. That's fucking insane to me, first off, because you would think you'd have to be some sort of an established hunter to go on a big game hunt in safari. Yeah, and you just like like rolled up into town and say, hey, I want to do this. Accidentally found himself on a big game hunt in the safari. Oh my fucking god.
Okay, I got a couple more here. Sheep make good companions. A couple of Massachusetts wanted compensation because they suffered emotional distress and loss of companionship after losing seven sheep to the neighbor's violent dogs. The damage is sought by the plaintiffs amounted to one hundred and forty thousand dollars, but the court ruled
did the monetary value of the sheep to be stated. The couple did not cooperate and eventually were rewarded one dollar because they couldn't produce evidence of their value. This case has a twist, however, as the sheep in question, we're being there, sorry, the dog in question was hired to herd the sheep by the couple. Are you serious and in the so? Okay, I would understand that frustration. I feel like there's more to that story though,
if they refused to present that doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense at all. Yeah, I don't understand that one bit. Okay, We've got two more here. Man wants to legally change his age. A sixty nine year old Dutchman wanted to legally changes aid in order age in order to avoid agism. A mild rattle brand claimed he felt discriminated against because his real age was affecting his job prospects, as well as his chances of success when
Tender, a popular dating app. The judge explained that many rights and obligations are age based that changing the legal age caused many implications. The plaintiff ended up losing the case. That's just that's just too much for me, Okay, I mean I guess that that makes sense. No, No, it doesn't. I mean, at sixty nine you would think that you're aspirations would just be like to not die Jesus. Okay, that's where I stand. I don't know. Okay, well, it's the last one. Uber ruins
marriages. A French bi this man sued Uber for forty eight million dollars, claiming that a flaw in the rideshare company's app played a role in the dissolution of his marriage. The businessman said he borrowed his wife's phone and used it to log into the Uber app. He claimed a glitch in the app caused it to continue sending notifications of his whereabouts to his wife's phone even after he logged off, and apparently some of his movements caused a problem with his wife,
and their marriage ended in a divorce. Oh, the result of this is unknown. That sounds like a pretty solid case. It sounds like a solid case. But it also sounds like like he was doing some shit he shouldn't have been doing and then got caught doing it well compared to the rest of him. That sounds like a solid case. I mean, that's fair. And I have heard of not necessarily Uber, but other apps like continuing to log your location after you gre off of them and logged out. Yeah
yeah, not a big fan. All right, Well that's all we got for this nice Monday episode. We have a listener stories coming up and the new arg coming up this week as well, so it's gonna be a three episode week. I'm excited to Brittany's excited, and with that being said in a spurt, unless anything else you'd like to add, No, I have nothing to add apart from answer those two questions. Let us know over in
the Facebook group. Yes, I think we're gonna have to add this episode of the dumbest fucking cases I've ever heard in my entire life to our never ending but are always growing tails from the dark, all the